"larry king live" starts right now. "larry king live" starts right -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, the kardashians are here. kim, kourtney, kris, and bruce jenner. set the record straight on the gossip. >> who cares? >> rumors. >> miles. >> the buzz about boyfriend. >> are you still with scott? >> babies. and bikini bodies. and there's this. all next on "larry king live." hey, i'm george lopez and i'm sitting in for larry king tonight. come on. joining us, bruce jenner, kris jenner, kim kardashian, and kourtney kardashian.

think star on season five of "keeping up with the kardashians" which premieres on e! at 10:00 p.m. let's all take a look. >> this season on "keeping up with the kardashians" -- indianapolis, we love you. >> oh, my gosh! >> woo! >> you have a better looking vagina than i thought. >> what? >> do you get any extra tickets for playoff games? >> did you get me my tickets? >> you guys are like dogs over meat. >> so i could teach you how to swim? >> yeah. >> it's just funny to see a 6'10" point guard that can't swim. >> kim, are you the only single one. >> yeah. >> okay. >> this is kill's new bodyguard. >> we have to work professionally. >> someone wanted to get set up with you. he plays football. >> i don't want to date another football player. >> who cares? >> miles austin. >> it was the best kiss ever, you guys.

>> are you still with scott? >> what about your sense of working on the relationship? >> i need to be cautious, i don't want to just let him back in the house. >> my wish would be to get the hell away in her family. >> so, kourt, are you moving to new york? >> she's going to leave us. >> if we are together, you don't text other [ bleep ] whores. >> you're hitting on him as much as he's hitting on you. >> that's going too far. >> i feel like everything happens for a reason. >> we've never seen and you dad fight like that. >> i'm just sick and tired of all of this. >> do you see? >> that's one family. that's enough -- i was watching episodes of the show. i felt like i'd had a meal after. let me ask you, how do you keep up? >> i'm just glad -- there's no way to keep up with it. i'm just glad the world can see what i've been going through all these years. i get so much sympathy when i'm

ron the road. people come up, bruce -- no, i'm very fortunate. i have a very loving family. we're very close. there's a lot of characters and a lot of personalties that we deal with. so a lot of things are happening but i do my best to keep everything calm. >> can you believe it is season five? >> no. >> no. >> i really can't. it seems like yesterday we, you know, ryan seacrest and my mom came up with the idea, and i can't even believe it's gotten to season five. >> let's go back to the beginning. how was it presented to you from ryan, kris? >> well, actually it's something i sort of created and took it to him, to it to e! and we were filming suddenly. all of a sudden we were filming a show. i could have come home that day and said, hey, family, we're going to do a reality show and somebody could have said, well, i'm not doing a reality show. but everybody was so -- kourtney was a little hesitant. >> we were forced.

we were strapped down to a bed and said if you don't do this i'm going to whip you. >> yeah, that's it. that's the kind of -- >> you had hesitations about having your life on camera? >> i did. especially when we first started filming and i didn't know how, like, what the show was going to be. like, you're just filming. every day i would go home and be like, what did i say that day? oh, my god, why did i say that? and you know, analyze everything. but once the show started airing and we film 12 to 18 hours a day, you really can't start editing yourself or you'll go nuts. >> people are fascinated with you. and they're fascinated with your dating situation. and really everything that you do. >> it's pretty crazy. i mean, you know, you can send out like a little twitter and people will show up places or you can just have dinner with a friend or say hello to someone in, you know, a store and people dating them

or -- it's crazy that -- i love letting people in on my life, and i really feel so connected to all my fans. but it is funny when people, you know, they do assume that they know everything about you because we live our life so publicly. >> let me ask you this. is there a certain -- when the show is on, is there a certain energy? are you holding back emotionally because the cameras are there? >> i think absolutely not. >> no. >> from the start we deside as a family if we're going to do this, we're going to show everything. we're going to be 100% real, and i think that's what's come across to the audience and i think that's why our show has done so well. because people really can relate to at least one of our personalties on the show. >> there's a lot of reality shows and people fight, and they fight, and there's anger. but there's not love. when i see this show, and when people see this show, they fight, and you cry, but like you said, ultimately at the base of it, the foundation of it is love. >> right. right. well, and i think there's a lot of really strong personalties in this family. and i know that kourtney and i got in the car to come here this morning. the minute she got in the car, it was like boom, boom, boom, and i'm like, shut up.

next time i'm getting my own car. >> she's like, tone it down this morning. morning. it's a little too early for >> if there would have been a camera in the car with us, they would have seen by the time we got to the studio here, all was fine. you know, we went back to talking about mason. >> that's what you think. >> oh, okay. >> did you ride in the car with them, bruce? >> he won't ride in the car with us. >> i won't ride in the car. i took my own car. >> he's like, i'm out of this. >>let dozen a little talk radio. it's a lot better. it's a lot better deal. >> too many personalties. >> when we were talking about the show, first started doing it, it had to be about a family. i mean, that's what makes the show. i want to deal with family issues. >> but that's who we -- >> but that's who we we're a very tight family. >> we're extremely close family, and i think if anything, the show is like the best therapy for us. it's actually brought us a lot closer together. we're just always together. the show has actually just taught us so much about

ourselves and kind of forces us to deal with whatever issue that we're going through, because for us to sit there and ignore each other, you know, all day with cameras on, we also know isn't really beneficial, so it just kind of forces us to really deal with our problems. and then sometimes we look back at things that we might not be so proud of, or arguments we had, and it brings us back to that place like, okay we never want to get there again. we never want to go there. >> or we do want to get there. i like watching some of the really old episodes and i'm like, remember those days when no one was obsessed with our phones, you know, everyone would just chill, go on a vacation or whatever, sometimes it makes you remember the older times, too. >> exactly. saying that and walking into the dressing room, blackberry, blackberry, reading a tabloid, not in the room. >> exactly right. >> that's how you start keeping up with the kardashians. kim is the executive producer of the "spin crowd" we premieres on

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kardashian. >> you don't know, though. >> she is. >> and the angriest, i might say. >> no, i'm very mellow. >> no. no. >> i'm very calm. >> no. why do you think -- >> she has no patience to tolerate anything but she's very calm. khloe tells it like it is, will say anything, but she's super sensitive and has a really good heart. kourtney's the kind that will just say anything to you, hoping that she gets that reaction out of you. >> you're kind of missing a sensitivity chip some day. >> thank you. you're all so cheerful. >> has it changed since she's a mom? >> yes. >> yes, it has. >> absolutely. >> you've softened a lot, like 50%. >> who are you people and why am i sitting next to you guys? >> good example. >> as a young girl, bruce, what do you recall of her personalty? >> wait, oh, man. kourtney was the toughest. i remember. >> do you want to show the scars on your arms? >> mine? right here? >> and bruce's scars from kourtney's nails? >> because my mom used to grab

my arm like this and i would dig my nails to get her hand off that's a normal thing. >> she's getting ready for school, i'd say good morning kourtney and she goes, i hate when you talk to me that way! and i went -- huh? okay. have a nice day. you know? >> he was the new guy in our life, and after my parents got a divorce, so it's understandable. every kid goes through that. >> it was kourtney's job to be angry. >> and to stick up for my dad at the time. >> but she's grown to love me. >> all these people were so annoying like this. >> did you move -- i didn't know that. did you move out and live with robert? >> i did. i lived with my dad in high school. kim lived there a lot with us, too. >> we were best friends growing up. we're a year and a half apart so we both moved in with my dad. >> what was that like for you? >> we just had two more babies. so there was always -- it was like a revolving door. one in, one out. we needed the room.

just -- >> to be honest with you, kris and robert really had a good relationship after the divorce was all over with. and there was no restrictions on kids. i never, ever, ever heard kris one time say anything bad about robert. and he didn't about her, to the kids especially. there were no rules of how many days can you stay at one house and how many days you can stay at the other. whatever they wanted to do, it was -- >> two nights out of the week he'd come walking in the back door to have dinner with all of us. so it was really fun. >> it was about as good as it can get. when he no idea at the time how short his life would be. and we look back on that time and say, you know what? it was great the kids got to spend a lot of time with their dad. >> really good memories. >> especially robert, because robert was in school and he was there for the last six months, i think. >> little robert. >> 18 months. >> speaking of little robert, little robert was supposed to join us this morning. why is little robert not here? >> little robert is m.i.a.

>> he is going through a phase where he just feels like being that irresponsible, 20-something-year-old sleeping in. we don't know. he's not answering his phone. >> i sent him a very long e-mail about how rude and i thought that it was and how he needs to get his life together and be more responsible. >> and you don't want the wrath of kourtney on you. >> i don't think so. >> it was very nice. i said i love you and i'll help you in any way i can, but you need to get it together. and living with khloe and lamar where you live in this beautiful home and your car is washed once a week, probably don't have to pay forever a meal. i was like get a job and like get your life together. >> absolutely. >> you grew up that way, didn't you? >> i lived with magic johnson for six years. >> that's what i thought. >> used to wash his cars. >> growing up, sleep in, it was great, wasn't it? >> my breakfast burritos that magic johnson and i would have were fantastic.

i was the best chef he would ever have. this hour is going to go by like that. >> okay. >> who are you seeing? >> who am i seeing? you know, i think what's so cool about season five of "keeping up" is for the first time you'll really see me single. you'll see me -- i've had the same boyfriend for the whole first four seasons. so you'll really see a different side of me and i'm dating around, you know? i'm enjoying this time just to be selfish and focus on work and i'm having a good time. >> kill's a workaholic so she likes to. >> she is. >> work definitely more than she ever likes to date. >> yeah. >> you really are. i mean, every time i see you, you have things coming. and you are an entrepreneur, i will say. >> that's the one thing about the girls is their work ethic. these are girls that get up at 4:00 in the morning and work until they fall down. and then they get up the next day and do it all over again. so they're very dedicated to what they're doing and they give 150%. >> the show is fantastic for

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yeah, that would be nice. we'll be at khloe's after. >> who's that? >> scott. >> scott's not coming over. i'm serious. tell him no. >> i'll call you when i leave here. >> what? it's my house. >> if you're not going to be there. you're going to the laker game. >> it's still my house. do you not get it? why would i want someone like that in my house? >> i just wanted to say congrats on your house warming. have fun. and kourt, he's not coming over, soy would call him back. >> kourt.

>> yes. >> what's happening with that dude, scott? >> he's actually doing really well, but i understand where khloe is coming from, especially at that time. and scott has to earn his trust back, i think, with the family. so khloe is -- >> and what about you? >> and with me. he's working on himself, we're doing the best that we can. we go to therapy. he goes once a week alone, we go together once a week. and, you know, just working on things. i think regardless we need to have a good relationship, you know, for our son, just even if we're together or not. so going to therapy and those kind of things i think are important. >> let's talk about scott. fan of scott? bruce? >> put me on the spot here. no, i -- i get along with scott. i can get along with anybody. i get along with scott. but i just have to give him a lot of credit over the last

couple of months because obviously the shows were shot a few months ago. he's really done very well. he's quit drinking. i mean, like quit. and he wasn't like a big drinker, but if he did drink he couldn't stop. you know? and that was a big, a huge problem. and i like him much better when he's sober. i think he's got a good heart, and he's really doing really well. >> he's trying. >> stopped the drinking and i've got to give him credit for that. he's doing well. recently we've tried to do more things with him and trying to, you know -- >> have you had those discussions man to man, taken him outside. >> yeah, i have, you've got to get your act together. >> i think we all have. >> you've got a kid. that's the bottom line. >> scott, we finally realized as a family that scott's got this problem, and it's a disease. and so now we have to help scott get better. you know, scott is part of our family forever because he's mason's dad. you know, he's the father of our grandchild and the father of

kourtney's son. and scott can be a really good guy when he's got it together. so now our job is to, you know, just pull together as a family and be really supportive for kourtney, because she loves this guy. and if it mean that's much to her, then we have to be there for kourtney and stop the nonsense and just really help this family heal and get back together. >> right. kim? >> i've always gotten along with scott. i think out of everyone, you know, khloe, there's really no reasoning with her. she has her opinion, she's firm on that, and we all respect it. but i think i've always been cool with scott. scott and i have had a different relationship that you probably haven't seen on the show. we've always hung out and so i've always, you know, tried to be the mediator and listen to his side and kourtney's side and, so, yeah, i've always liked scott. >> they tend to only show the bad side of scott, i would say, on the show. >> really? but you have creative control of the show, you can show the good sides. >> yeah, but i think if we're just sitting at home playing with mason or something, that usually gets cut out of when

there's all this other drama going on. >> right. >> and i really have to, like, give it up to kourtney for being so courageous. i couldn't show that, if that was going on in my relationship. i wouldn't be able to be so strong to watch the episodes back, hear everyone blocking about it and commenting and cover of cover of tabloid on stuff that they really dealt with months ago. so -- >> and even -- >> kourtney doesn't care what people think, so it's cool -- >> and therapy sessions are supposed to be private. >> i do, i say you're absolutely not coming, but there are some that we've been open to shooting our first therapy session ever in miami we shot, and i hadn't seen him in weeks. and the cameras were there, you know, with all of that. so -- and it's hard to do those moments and deal with it. but -- >> but the baby is beautiful. >> thank you. and he's so happy. he crawled yesterday. >> oh, great. who does the baby look like? >> my dad.

>> robert kardashian. it's like -- i told somebody the other day, i was changing his diaper and i felt i was changing my ex-husband's diapers. this is so weird. >> that is weird, honey. you didn't tell me that. >> that is creepy. >> a little creepy. >> a little strange. >> that is creepy. what is off limits when it comes to cameras and the kardashians? the answers to those questions coming up. accident avoidance technologies. the star safety system is something that's standard on 100 percent of toyota vehicles. we always think of safety, even in the concept design of our vehicles. [ male announcer ] the star safety system. standard. because we know, there's nothing more important to you than your safety. all our new safety features are at toyota.com/safety.

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i am so proud of you. >> you're welcome. >> and i think -- >> oh! kim. >> mommy, no! help! >> really? you don't want to mess with me! welcome to your new house, kim. >> woo! >> everybody, grab a broom.

>> that's what i love. we're talking about love. that is -- that's love right there. >> i think you have to have a good sense of humor about yourself. you know, you can't take life too seriously. we were talking before and it's just -- life is short. you have to have those sweet moments. >> with the cameras and five years of it, you were apprehensive in the beginning and now you're all in. is anything off limits? >> ooh. >> not really. as kourtney said before, we almost never edit ourselves, as you can see. >> we have the right to, and we have such a great relationship with our production company that they've given us the power to be able to edit, but so far we've not taken any content out. because at the end of the day, if a story's going to get out that we're nervous about putting it in the show, somehow it gets out to the tabloids anyway and it's probably completely twisted. so why not be able -- this is our way to tell our story through our own eyes. >> if you had time to yourself, really, whether it's in the house or whatever, what do you like to do?

kourtney, what do you like to do when you're -- >> i love to go to sleep without setting an alarm clock, is like my special treat to myself. >> i don't know the last time that's happened. >> i know. but that's like, for us, that's like exciting. and i mean, i love to travel. i love bringing mason, especially, to new places. kim and i brought him to cabo. with scott, he's been to vegas, he's been to indianapolis and new york. i mean, it's fun to just take him and see new things with him. >> and when you sleep without an alarm clock, how late do you sleep? >> we sleep till 10:00. >> oh. >> if mason will let me. he sleeps till 10:00 too. >> i love to make scrapbooks and organize them. i'm such a neat freak so i love everything totally organized. it's either scrapbooking or -- >> wait a minute. >> she's obsessed. >> are you serious? you go to the store and get the little decals? >> oh, yes. stickers, you should see the one i made for my dog. it's amazing. >> next week when you're on my show on tbs, will you bring a

scrapbook? >> i will, if you want me too. >> absolutely. >> okay. >> i don't think i've ever imagined you scrapbooking. >> a scrapbooker? >> you don't wear the little glasses, do you? >> no. >> what about you? >> i like to go to mexico. i like to hang out in puerto vallarta. >> she likes to ditch us all and have some alone time. >> that lasts about 24 hours and then the e-mails start coming through. this is an emergency! >> she likes to go to mexico because her phone doesn't work there. so she pretends like she, you know, has no phone service. >> yeah. >> but that's nice. you can get away from your phone. i doubt that either -- could you get away from your phone completely? >> i feel like because i have a baby. but if he's with me, i could ditch my phone. >> yeah. >> it would be really hard for me. i have separation anxiety when i'm away from my home. >> not even a prayer for kim to give up the phone. >> i'm sure you're going crazy in the hour. >> it's refreshing sometimes. but not too long. >> what do you do? >> oh, no. >> golf?

>> yes. >> yes, baby. >> is that the -- >> that's my getaway. >> your peace. >> my peace, my getaway. also i'm into rc helicopters so every morning at 7:00 i'm in my little field and i work on all the tricks and this and that. i enjoy that. i enjoy -- i always like to learn skills. to me that's fun. >> so you fly remote control helicopters? >> yeah. but i also fly like real airplanes and i have my own aviation company and i fly these, but i got into this rc helicopters a couple years ago and it's really challenging. >> can it be expensive? >> oh, it's not expensive. >> take my word for it. it's not expensive. >> you're blowing it. you're blowing it here. >> when he wants to buy a helicopter, it's literally -- >> the new electric one, the big one, yeah. but that's a whole other story. i've been working on that. >> golf you took up at 50. >> i did, i've been working on it ten years. it's getting better, but it's a tough -- you know, it's a tough sport. i mean, there's so much to it

and things change, and -- >> do you wish you would have played when you were younger? >> well, when i was younger if i would have played i probably would have gotten beaten up. you're on the golf team, that wasn't good. >> that wasn't cool. >> tennis wasn't cool. little did we know those were the guys that were going to go on and do quite well. but back in the '50s and '60s, even '70s if you were on the golf team, god. >> but it does keep you sane. >> it does. i enjoy it. i like learning skills. back in the old days with the olympics and stuff like that, that to me is fun, to get better at something. you know? and golf is kind of my little outlet. >> i will say that probably even though the season runs -- when do they shoot "keeping up"? ? from what time to what time? >> this time it was a long time. >> took us a few months. 18 hours a day, seven days a week. no days off. >> okay, so now that you're not -- now that you're not -- >> good one, bruce. >> sorry. i'm sorry. >> oh, my god. >> see that? i messed up.

but it's not a kid. >> yeah, that's good, it's not a kid. >> it's not a kid. >> separation anxiety from the phone. >> see? >> i'm the carpooler. >> and the young ones. >> kendall and kylie. >> yes. the 14-year-old with the pictures in the -- >> yes. >> it's risque, some people say. what do you think? >> i don't think it's risque. she's in a bikini. like what do you want her to be in, like a gown from head to toe. like. >> you're at the beach. >> she was doing a portfolio. she signed with w wilhelmina modelingatio modeling agency. we signed her up for a two-day shoot. one day was in the studio, one day was at the beach. she had a coverup and these fabulous pictures went out, her hair and makeup was done, the best photographer, nick -- how do we say nick's last name?

>> but controversial a little bit, kim, right? a little. >> i posted the pictures on my blog. i thought she looked beautiful. i think for her being 14, 5'10", she's gorgeous. but i don't think people expected her, you know, to be modeling in swimsuits but that was a requirement from the modeling agency and she was -- you didn't even see anything. so i don't think it was risque at all. >> but it's also the age that young girls start their modeling career, if that's the path you're going to take. >> i have a 14-year-old daughter, father, would you like to speak up? >> make a comment here? >> yes. >> yes. i dropped her off at the beach that morning, and then i left. but i probably should have stayed. no, you know, it was pretty funny, because -- i think the shots were fine. they were, fashion model shots and kendall has a passion for that. she wants to do that. but we did the shots accident, days later, we always go to the moose head ranch in wyoming and

we go riding horses for a week. it's the most beautiful place in the world, and there's no tvs or nothing. i come home, and i say, kris, how's everything going and and that. she goes, oh, my god, the drama. >> the kendall controversy. >> what controversy? we've been riding horses all week. >> i think she looks beautiful, and she loves modeling. she loves it. >> and really, that's -- >> she got another gig monday. she's got to be in wisconsin. >> you knew about it. it wasn't something they hid from you. >> no, i didn't see the pictures. >> for once. >> i didn't see the pictures, but i knew she was taking the photos. >> you have hid. >> yeah. >> we've got more sneak peeks of season five of "keeping up with the kardashians" when "larry king live" returns. [ bottle ] mr. clean bath cleaner is balanced like a zen master.

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what's going on here? >> jesse drafted you to our team. all you have to do is throw that ball into any cup you want. >> okay.

>> sorry, fellows. here we go! >> yeah! >> beer pong? >> well, the boys were teaching me how to play beer pong. my son's friends. i had no idea even what it was. so -- >> she's legal. >> yeah. >> what is your drink of choice, kris? >> well, i switch it up. i like white wine, and then i like a little -- >> what's available at 5:00 p.m. every day. >> i don't know, vodka. i'm into vodka these days. >> whatever's in the house. >> that's right. whatever you've got. >> yeah. >> they're kidding. >> yes. bruce? >> one beer is my limit. i don't really drink. >> i've been married for him to 20 years and i don't think i've ever seen you buzzed. >> what a great word. buzz. >> what a great new episode. >> being a mother, has it changed your desire for alcohol? >> i'm still breastfeeding, so that solve that's. >> which is a lovely visual, by

the way. >> thanks. you're so sick. >> now she's got the pump going. >> i was pumping back stage. >> you missed it, george. >> they try to make it look cool, but it looks -- >> it's not gaga cool. it's frequenty. >> do you -- >> it works like a cow. >> dual ones, yeah. >> hand free. >> nice. >> hands free? >> i've got to walk around the house. >> that's like bluetooth of milking yourself. >> it is. >> can you do things while you're connected. >> while you're twittering. >> i do. i'm going to twitter you while i'm doing it later. >> it's totally lady gaga because it covers and then it's got like a strap. >> how do you know this? >> were you peaking in the dressing room? >> we all have our things. >> is there a camera in the dressing room? >> are you new to the alcohol intake -- >> yeah, i said i've always been really uptight, i'm not a drinker at all. i never have, so i made a

promise to myself. i was just going to have a drink every once in a while when i turn 30. but i think the single life came a little bit before that. so i turned 30 this year, and i just -- i only have one white russian and i'll just get a little bit of a buzz and then i get really tired and fall asleep. >> i think mexico, you have more than one. >> it's the only drink that i can have. i love a white russian. >> why do you love white russians? >> because it has a little bit of vodka, that's the only like real alcohol i can have and the ka lieu with a, it tastes like chocolate milk. i can have one, loosen up a little bit and then that's it. i still am not the biggest drinker so i would never -- >> and you're a huge fan of chocolate. you love chocolate? are you a chocolate lover as well? >> see that's a misconception. i love all candy. >> i love oreos. >> you love oreos? >> double stuffed. >> double stuffed.

>> oh, my. >> so when you're dating, you don't see -- you go for who you like? you don't particularly see -- >> absolutely. but what's so funny is i could stand -- i could literally be like full on making out with a white guy in the middle of the street and no one would even care, take a picture and i could stand next to, you know, someone else and they would automatically take a picture. soy think people -- you know, on "keeping up" season five you'll see my dates and the different -- i'll mix it up a little bit. >> what is that like to date after so much time? >> it's weird. dating is just really awkward. i'm a relationship kind of girl. if i can just meet someone and fall right in love and be in a relationship i would love to do that. but i think everything happens for a reason, and i think that right now i need to focus on work and that's what i'm doing. you know? >> if you were a young guy and everything. >> yeah, so you lost me already. >> and you're going out, could you handle kim? >> i don't believe so.

>> i don't think i could. >> it's so -- >> i would be scared to death. >> it's so discouraging. >> she's a pushover. >> i don't know if i could handle it. >> i'd be afraid. i would be afraid. >> strong, beautiful, intelligent, we're in trouble. >> when we play three card monty with the kardashian sisters, who did you think was going to have the baby first? >> i thought me for sure. >> oh, i thought kim first. i would say kim first. >> never kourtney. >> and never khloe because khloe never really dated. she just got married. she met the guy and ten days later got married. >> and who would have -- did you see yourself married first? >> she was married first. >> absolutely. i was married first. i was married when i was a teenager and. >> for five minutes. >> no, it was like three years. it was three years. at 19 i got married. i was married for like three years. i loved the whole idea of marriage. i love being in a long-term relationship. i love having that best friend that, you know -- but so i've

learned a lot. but i definitely want to get married. i thought i'd get married before them again. >> but does it matter to you, a time? does it matter, like i have to be married by this or -- >> no, i used to think that a few years ago, but i never thought -- >> now she's turning 30, she had to push it back. >> no, no, no, i just thought -- i'm doing a lot of things now that i never thought i would be doing. so it's a tradout. >> the things you're doing now, do you think you could do if you had someone close in your life? >> that's why i need to find the right person that accept it's all. because then you can do -- if anything, if you have a stlong partner with you, it motivates you to be even better. so absolutely. i think that you can excel even more if you have someone that believes in you 100%. >> that's why her mom does so well. we both have our lives and -- >> i love you. >> you do love each other. >> yeah. >> kim and justin bieber. wait a minute. we'll ask about that. that's next.

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i'm back with the kardashians, and we're going to take a twitter question for kourtney. how do you deal with the emotional roller coaster of your family and accepting and not accepting scott? >> i think i just have to be really strong and believe in my decisions and know that i'm doing what's best for me and my family. i mean, it's hard. and obviously i spend so much time with my family, and i want to keep everyone together. but there's definitely times when i've had to live like two

separate lives. one with my family and one with scott. >> it's interesting because they weigh in on everything. there's no sensor, you say as you feel. >> there's no boundaries here. >> at one point, you say, you can be in mason's life but we're not going to be together as a couple. at what point? >> like, what's too much for me? >> yes. >> for where i would have it that way? >> yes. >> i think if just i thought it wasn't a good environment for mason, you know? i think i take him into consideration. >> in miami, for sure. >> i definitely hit that in miami, and that's where i said, the party's over. like i'm going to be with mason, you can work on yourself if you want to. and he has. and so now, you know, we're working on it together. but if it ever got to that place again, i would absolutely, you know, move forward. >> so this is a country of change, do you believe that change can happen with scott? >> absolutely. but i think that courtney's

really go kourtney's really good at setting her boundaries and saying this is not acceptable. but at the end of the day, her heart's in it, she loves him. i think anybody can change, especially if they feel they have the support of a lot of people around them. and i think that's the key. >> speaking of change, in the commercial, i first -- first of all, i didn't know you were married, but you also kept it from your family for three months. how did they find out? >> kourtney looked on the internet, found my marriage license and e-mail it'd to my mom. my mom gave me 24 hours to tell my dad. >> it was ugly. >> i was young, so, you know, if anything, you have to take a lesson learned from every situation and, while all my friends were in college and drinking and getting wasted and partying, i was at home, being a wife and cooking. >> a teenage wife. >> at 19. >> she was a teenager. >> i learned so much from that experience that it totally shaped me to who i am today. >> what did i tell you? >> what did i tell you?

>> you repeated it to me. i told her, i said, okay, there's some good news here. we just found out. i said the good news is, good n it's good you get the first one out of the way when you're young, because you're going to learn so much through this experience. this will be better than a college education. >> and it was. it really made me who i am today. >> yeah. and it made her -- yeah. she came out of it a lot better person at the en. she's going to take the next one so much more seriously. >> you're not that person anymore. >> absolutely spl she didn't get terribly hurt. it was bad, but you didn't get hurt. >> no. it was -- you know, i was just young. that's all it was. so, you live, you learn and you move on. >> i think i know the answer to this question, but i call you the source when i see you at the lakers' games. the source. which one of the girls is most like you? >> this one. >> really? >> definitely. >> no brainer, yeah. >> we're like twins. >> absolutely. >> we think alike. we do business alike. >> absolutely. >> it's wild. >> that's why it works, because

she can, you know, make a decision or she would do the same kind of business deal the same way i would. we just think alike. from everything. we just have the same ideas and it just works. >> you work together as a family. now, did you want to do that, get involved in business and products and things, kourtney? >> yeah. i think more about things. if they want like an immediate answer, like we need to know this second, what do we want to do? i'm more like a thinker and a little bit more logical. >> my mom and i have the same ideas. we set out and have these goals and do these goal sheets and we make it all happen. khloe loves it and works really hard. she'll take the deals that my mom kind of -- >> she'll defer to us to make those decisions. >> and then kourtney could care less. she's just along for the ride and she's the -- has to analyze everything. but i don't think kourtney would be just as happy, you know, being a school teacher or whatever else she wanted to do.

>> or stay-at-home mom. >> do you want to be a stay-at-home mom? >> yeah. i kind of am. >> no. you work really hard. >> i work really hard, but he gets to be there with me as i'm working. >> right. >> hethey're very good business women. you think they're celebrities, this, that. no, they're business women. i always tell everybody, because kris has really been handling me, as my manager forever. actually, we're coming up on 20 years of marriage. >> isn't that great? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i always used to talk to somebody about something and i would say really to get this done, you would have to talk to my manager and that happens to be my wife and good luck. >> somebody has to take control. >> she's the head of all of this. >> you're beautiful and tough. i doubt that you could get really anything by any of you guys. you can see that stuff coming, right? >> if you try with one of us, there's always another one right there to see what we don't see.

>> oh, yeah. >> this one right here, look out. >> we'll still get to kim and justin bieber. you got married at 19. would you date somebody in their teens? and they'll tell us about their book. vm

welcome back. george lopez, filling in for larry king. it has been a dream of mine. so, i two accomplished dreams, to sit with them and to do this. justin bieber and kim kardashian, frolicking in the surf. it's big news. how do you frolic with the bieb? how does that happen? >> well, how do i frolic with the bieb? it was hard to get his hair wet. that part was challenging. he's just the most adorable, cutest kid and that part was fun. >> you said the kid has swagger.

>> yeah. >> to be a champion, you have to have swagger. >> justin bieber has this swag to him. i'm serious. he has this -- he's charming. he has this swag. i can't explain it. >> do you have a crush? you have a crush. >> if you were 18 -- >> it's illegal. >> -- would you date justin bieber? >> i don't know. that sounds creepy. >> 13 years difference. >> my parents were 12 years apart. >> if you did date him when he was 18, you would have clothes that mason could use. you could have the same out fits. >> he would have to be legal. let's just say that. >> of course he would have to be legal. season five is going to be -- the show has always been great. do you have a favorite season? >> we are so excited. >> season four. season five? actually, season five is. you see me in a whole different way that i'm excited. >> you see more of kim.

kim is present in this season. this season that we're working on is always my favorite. this one is so exciting and a lot of people won't expect a lot of stuff. >> i started to watch the show. i'm going to watch this season because i've known you a little bit. then we started to talk. you and i have been cool. but i find you the most fascinating. >> really? >> yes. i know khloe from lamar and the laker games but you're more interesting. i see a lot of thought. >> because it's mysterious, right? >> i'm going to keep it that way then. >> don't you agree? >> yeah. she's a very complex little girl that sort of peels open one season at a time. >> and you were as a young girl. >> very complex. >> lot of personalities in this family. lots of personalities. >> kourtney used to brutalize me as a kid. >> not one the same.