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the storm packing strong winds and torrential rain also left more than 25,000 people without electricity. the senate today passed a $42 billion bill designed to help small businesses hire new employees. two republican senators broke with their party to support the measure. the house has already passed its version of the bill. a spokeswoman for first lady michelle obama denies that mrs. obama told the wife of the frenchhappened. something of a brouhaha there. >> a brouhaha indeed. that's it for "360." thanks for watching. i'll see you tomorrow night. "larry king" starts right now. >> larry: tonight jane lynch and her alter ego.
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the emmy winning star of "glee." >> that's the smell of failure and it's stichk up my office. ♪ let your body move to the music. >> larry: has rocked with olivia newton john. ♪ let's get physical, physical ♪ i want to get physical >> larry: has a conniving cheer leading coach ever look so good? break out your track suits, get ready, gleeks. >> in glee club we do things a little bit differently. >> oh, yeah? how is that working out for you? >> larry: on "larry king live." good evening. jane lynch just won an emmy as the coach sue sylvester on the hip musical comedy "glee." she has more than 100 tv and film credits to her name. season two of "glee" returns to
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fox on tuesday, september 21st. season one of "glee" is on dvd right now. for those of you who have been living under a rock in the past year, watch. >> let me get this straight. the glee club got rid of dakota stanley, mr. shoofter is back, and they're busy at work on a new number, more confident than ever? >> and down, up, and clap, clap. down, clap, and up, clap, clap. >> this is what we call a total disaster, ladies. i'm going to ask you to smell your arm pits. that's the smell of failure. >> larry: we're just getting started with glee's jane lynch. we'll talk about lots of thing. what motivates, do you think, sue sylvester? >> i think she is a warrior. she is always looking for the next fight. that's why she let the glee club off at the end of the first season. glee club could have been gone.
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should he said and no, let them stay will they're a worthy adversary. she is always looking for the next fight. >> and another season. >> exactly. >> larry: when you read this, were you offered it right away? >> yeah. >> larry: you did not have to audition. >> no, no. >> larry: did you like her? >> i did. i loved it. one of the first things ryan murphy who also won an emy. he created the show with a couple other guys. it said sue sylvester may or may not have posed for pent house and may or may not be on horse estrogen. i said i'm in. i loved it. i knew it would be great. >> larry: did you know that it would, despite this long and what would call successful career as a character actress, that's what we would call it. you would have this blossom? >> i know. it's one of those things. there are so many great actors out there and that i know i'm breathing rare identified air. i found a character and a writer, ian brennan is the guy who basically writes everything i say. where we just work really well together.
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i love saying what he writes for me. >> larry: did you know it would be a hit? >> when i saw the first number, don't stop believing, i got to watch that being filmed and i went, wow. i knew that these kids, william shell. i could not believe her talent. matt morrison, i couldn't believe his talent. and all the other kids. i had a feeling when i saw us do the first musical number, i went, oh, my god. this is going to be a hit. >> larry: you agree it is all on the page. >> sometime i read the script and it doesn't jump out at me. it is not until i see it sometimes. i mean, it's really great actors kind of bringing this stuff to life. i think it could be very sappy and sentimental if you're not in the right frame of mind when you're reading it. when you see these actors, you know, bite into it, it really -- >> larry: you say the lines, right? >> i'm memorizing lines all the time. i'll driving around look talking to myself. i don't say anything in one sentence. everything i do is basically a diatribe.
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>> larry: do they allow to you say i'm not comfortable with this? can we do it this way? >> yeah. usually i'm talked out of it. >> you think this is hard? try being waterboarded. that's hard. >> i had one line. i don't know how it got past fox. i had one line where i said something about how i was going to torture will and skin a cat in front of him. and i said we cannot say it. they said we put in it there to see if it would raise any flags. >> larry: animal groups. >> and 25 cats. now i have five cats with my new wife. we have five cats and two dogs. >> larry: i'll get to that later. you work so well with your adversary. >> yeah. >> larry: would you call that good chemistry or bad chemistry? >> it's good chemistry. >> larry: but you hate each other. >> our characters hate each other but we have grudging respect for each other. and matt's caring, mr. schuester is always trying to find my good side. make peace and it is against sue sylvester's nature. she is a warrior.
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but she has great respect for him and she admires him, too. his kids love him and admire him. whereas my kids basically fear me. >> larry: why does "glee" work? >> i think it works because there is nothing more raw and truthful than when you raise your voice in song. when you get to a point -- like the american musical theater work. when you raise your voice in song to express what is going on deep inside of you, i think people react to that. it is so raw. and i think especially kids are so hungry for that. >> larry: do you like working with a young cast? >> i do. they're really great. they're really nice people and they can't afford to have any of the attitudes or -- they have to sing. they have to dance, they have to rehearse, they have to record and then they're shooting. so they have to be disciplined. they have to have their head on straight. >> larry: they're not veterans. >> no, they're not veterans but they're real show people. they're real theater peel. they know how to do it all. they're triple threats.
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so you can't have an attitude. >> larry: it is billed as a musical comedy. you get the bullying, sexuality, infidelity. >> we got it all. i know. >> larry: you would think that couldn't work. >> you bodies. on the page sometime, how is this going to work? we had a pregnancy right in the beginning. one of our students was pregnant. >> right. she was the president of the celibacy club and she gets pregnant because that happens to those people. so that was kind of a, right off the bat. we want kids to watch this show. sometime i read it and i think, is this a little too much? but obviously it's not. kids just love it. >> larry: you're a chicago girl. >> i am. from the south side. >> larry: did you always want to be in theater? >> i did, yeah. from my first conscious moment i wanted to -- >> larry: do you know why? >> i don't know why. i think i'll wired that way. but i knew when i was watching television that i wanted to do. that i wanted to perform. and i remember the first play i saw. i was very young. i was in my memory of it i was barely conscious.
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i remember the lights going up and a whole world emerging from this darkness. and i was, oh, just intrigued with that. i wanted to be in that. i still love. that i still love going to the theater and sitting in the dark and then the lights come on. and there is this whole world in front of you. >> larry: given all choices, would you rather do theater? >> no. i like it all. i really do. i like all of it. i love being in these ensemble comedy movies. i love working with a bunch of people and coming up with, how can we make this moment funnier? and i enjoy the immediacy of theater, too. your heart is pounding and you have to surrender to it. there is no take two. you're in it. >> larry: tony randall said comedy is a serious business. you don't play it funny. >> right. it has to come from a truthful place in order to be funny. if you're could not striving something, you're making something up, it is not funny. it is instant. it has to come from someplace real. i think comics, people who are funny i think really can look at
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themselves and look into the shadow of who they are and be able to embrace it. >> larry: when you're on stage, you their laugh. in a studio, you don't. >> no. but what's really fun, you're doing the scene and you're hopefully working your magic. and then they say cut and the place falls apart. that is best. >> larry: you get that a lot. we're going to talk about madonna and marriage and the madness that is sue sylvester. in the sky ♪ ♪ for a chain of supply, that's logistics ♪ ♪ when the parts for the line ♪ ♪ come precisely on time ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ a continuous link, that is always in sync ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ carbon footprint reduced, bottom line gets a boost ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ with new ways to compete
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when i was a little girl, i developed early. by the time i was 14, i had this body you're looking at. can you imagine that? >> i don't want to, no. >> she put some make-up on me but it's really not my style. you know, so i took it off. i learn to play the ukelele. one call to the judge from me and you are in the slammer like emcee hammer. >> larry: does comedy come easy to you? >> i think so. >> larry: were you a funny kid? >> i was a funny kid. my family is funny, sometime not intentionally. my sister and brother and i would laugh endlessly at our parents, yeah. >> larry: some of your most memorable characters are
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delusional, right? >> yeah. i'm kind of fascinated with that. people who think they're pulling something off in the real world. and we are looking at them like this, but they have absolute confidence that they're too cool for school. >> larry: what was your first break? >> it's been a series of breaks, i guess. i'm kind of a slow burn. wh i started working -- >> larry: grt movie. >> i think it's great. it holds up, too. which was like 2000. i was almost 40. and that's when i started, people started to know who i was. >> larry: did anyone think that movie would be a hit? >> you know, i think waiting for guffman. that was his first film. there were a small group of people who just adored it. it was kind of a cult favorite. so there was a bit of anticipation for that small group. but i think that group expanded after best in show. >> larry: as an animal lover -- >> yeah. >> larry: did you realize early
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you could make people laugh? >> yeah. yeah. >> larry: you have it or you don't. >> right. i don't think you can teach it. >> larry: we have a facebook question. >> okay. >> larry: facebook. what do you think of before jumping into a character? how do you enter the spirit of a character? >> i think i would find the achilles' heel. >> larry: the weakness. >> if you're working from the weakness, there's all sorts of stuff you can find. you're in the vulnerable area. you're in the tender area. and great comedy comes from that. >> larry: do you get type cast because of it? >> probably. >> larry: you don't get serious roles? >> you know what? now and again i do. i get a play, matthew's mother on criminal minds. that's pretty heavy stuff. >> larry: very heavy. >> yeah. and she is in an institution. >> larry: do you still do it? >> i haven't done it in about a year. >> larry: would they have you come back? >> i don't know. >> larry: are they going to say no? >> i don't know. if i'm doing this? i don't know.
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people are more open minded about that. i think there is a certain authoritarian character i play that hopefully i don't do the same thing over and over again. i'll add mit, i watch things sometimes and go, i'm doing the same thing did i in best in show here. i think you do. people kind of want to shore things sometime. it is my job to try to make them different in some way, you know? >> larry: in that unique position, did you still have to audition? >> yeah. >> larry: recently? >> i haven't auditioned recently. i haven't had time to do anything. >> larry: before "glee"? >> yeah. i was still auditioning. it was a great gift to be handed this. >> larry: isn't it [ bleep ]. >> when it is great is when nobody knows you. you walk into a room. and they don't know who you are. and then you do something that makes them really go, hey. and if i could get that from the people i'm auditioning for, that made me so happy i always looked at auditions back then before anybody knew me. i'm going to show them something. >> larry: danny did he veto told
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me in taxy, a lot of people tried out for that little character. he came in in character. he insulted the people in the room. >> that's a risky thing to do. obviously it worked but sometimes you get rolled eyes when you do that. >> larry: have you taken chances? >> not like that. >> larry: have you turned down anything? that you may have redegreed? >> no. i haven't turned down anything i regret. basically i say yes to everything. my agent used to say i will work for $1.50 and a steak. i always figured that if you're being offered work, you have to take it. you know? maybe not so much anymore. >> larry: you don't have to do that anymore. >> i did. i took everything i love working. sometime i would work in thing i didn't think were very good. >> larry: what did you do it for? just to work? >> yeah. i love to work. i love doing it. >> larry: what if you thought the script was or i had? >> i've done scripts that were horrid. i do my best. i don't know so much anymore.
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definitely in the beginning, i love being around actors. i love being around people who love this work. >> larry: anthony quinn said, you always give your best. no matter what you think. >> exactly. you play each moment as truthfully as you can and you try to make it, if it is supposed to be funny or poignant or whatever it is supposed to be. you work to do that. >> larry: tuesday night, september 21. second year of "glee." the first year you can get now, buy a box set. more with the actress jane lynch about her successful career and her personal life, too. she recently married her girlfriend. stick around. g cereals. they put a white check on the top of every box to let people know that their cereals have healthy whole grain, and they're the right choice... (announcer) general mills makes getting whole grain an easy choice. just look for the white check. ♪ we need to finish those projections ♪ ♪ then output the final presentations ♪ ♪ sally, i'm gonna need 40 copies, obviously collated ♪ what's going on? when we're crunched for time,
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the emmy goes to -- jane lynch. >> i want to say to the cast, i love you. you're young and you're wonderful. you're fresh face asked when i'm not seething with gel circumstance i'm so proud of you. to my agent, you're the best agent in the world. i love you my wife, and my little girl heyden. god bless. >> larry: and of course if you didn't know, that was jane lynch accepting her emmy for outstanding supporting actress in a comedy. and quite a area for you.
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you wrap up "glee" and then you married your partner. >> right. >> larry: you'd better together with how long? >> we got married on our first anniversary. >> larry: was it a marriage, marriage? >> yeah. we got married -- >> larry: it was legal. in massachusetts. yeah. >> larry: now she is a clinical psychologist. right? >> same work as me. >> larry: does she analyze you? >> well, we come together on -- we love to talk about motivation and process and stuff. we kind of click on that. >> larry: what was it like to get married? >> it was wonderful. something i never thought i would want to do gay or straight. i didn't think that was something i wanted to do. >> larry: you mean you wanted to be single. >> not even that so much. it is almost like having children. i never thought about it. i never had that drive to do it. and it just, when i met her, it was just perfect. it was right. it was like this is the woman i want to marry.
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i have a daughter now. an 8-year-old daughter. >> larry: you adopted her at what age? >> i didn't adopt her. i'm her step parent. she has two parents. she's 8 years old. she'll be 9 in a couple weeks. >> larry: what is that like? >> it's great. she's wonderful. i always said if i would have a kid it would have to be an exceptional kid. she is wise, ironic, funny, she's adorable. she is a really sweetheart. she is not kid-lake in the way -- sometime when she'll have her little friends over, i go, oh, may god, children are tedious. >> larry: do they call you both mom? >> she calls me jane. >> larry: the name let's go into this a little. when did you know that you were, for want of a better term, different? >> oh, about the same time i knew i wanted to be an actress. the first moment of consciousness. i knew that -- >> larry: you liked girls. >> yeah. i knew that was the deal for me. >> larry: did you wonder why? >> yeah. i wondered why. i thought there was something very, very wrong with me.
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>> larry: your girlfriends are saying look at that guy. he's cute. >> and i'm going, i think you're really cute. yeah. i knew-and it was my deep dark secret all through high school. there were no gay role models. nobody was open. i come from the south side of chicago and the '70s. and there were no gay role models. i remember someone saying the word gay and hearing what it was and i thought, oh, that's what i am. oh, god, nobody can ever know. so that was kind of tough. >> larry: one doesn't know why. i don't know why i'm heterosexual. i didn't choose it. >> no. we're all a series little networks going to inside have us. we have preferences and it is tough. because i mean, it was tough for me growing up. it is tough for a lot of people. it's not tough for me anymore. it is tough for a lot of people. >> larry: do you think we're changing? >> i do think we're changing but it is very slow. it seem like the courts tend to lead us into social change.
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we don't seem to do on it our own. >> larry: senator reid said they will bring up don't ask don't tell. it is part of a bigger bill. >> larry: does it offend you to know that exists? >> it hurts me. i'm rarely offended, you know. i think more than anything, it kind of hurts my feelings and it hurts my feelings for a lot of other people, too. i think that for the people who are against us -- that's a goofy thing. you know? >> larry: why are they -- >> it's a moral thing for them or a religious thing for them. it is hurtful and kind of ridiculous. >> larry: do you think people should be open about their sexuality? >> i think people need to do what they have to do. >> larry: did you come out? >> not formally. i never hid it though. i mean, i hid it when i was younger. but you get to be 40 years old and tired of hiding. it just kind of happened
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naturally that i started letting people who know i was. not like i walked in with a rainbow flag. i would talk about somebody i was dating. i didn't hide the fact that when i laura that everybody in the cast knew that i was in love and getting married. >> larry: when you were in high school, did you go out with boys? >> no. i didn't. i found the one, like still my best friend. probably the other gay kid in school, christopher. a guy, and we hung out together. and i think people knew we weren't dating. >> larry: fun poking at the gay guy in "glee"? you, gay guy. >> yeah. i love how sue gets to do -- i don't mean to compare myself to such an icon as archie bunker, for a moment if might compare us. what we loved about him was so how unpolitically correct he was. >> larry: that was scripted. boy. >> yeah. norman lear. >> larry: more with jane and her cheerios when we come back. then you're ready for new zegerid otc.
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what did you administration of the proposition 8? >> i thought it was, i didn't think it would lose until the final hours when the number were coming in. i couldn't believe it was going to lose. and i think now if you took a poll, i heard that it might be flipped the other way. it might be 52 for and 48 against. >> larry: last night a supreme court justice was our guest who pretty much admitted the court will have to hear. this it will be a decision and an appeal. >> i know. it will go to the supreme court. i don't know. >> larry: 5-4? >> probably will be 5-4. >> larry: a reflection of the nation. >> yeah. we hope that we have the 5. >> larry: how do you think the president had a handled all this? >> that i think the president probably has so much on his plate and he is so overwhelm. i can't imagine what that job must be. you know, i can sit in my armchair and watch may political shows and say get moving on this stuff. all you have to do is sign a piece of paper. all you have to do --
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>> larry: go, go! >> yeah. but you know, i don't know what he is facing in there. i don't know what it is like to be president. and i imagine that it must be really overwhelming. >> larry: so you're not the knee jerk critics on the left who are saying, he is slow on this. >> i think he is being slow. but i'm not sitting in his place. i don't know what he's doing. i would love for him to -- he could right now declare a city on don't ask don't tell. >> larry: co-make a presidential edict. of course it was an he'd whikt president clinton did it. >> and he's not. and i wish that he would and i don't know why he's not. i don't know. >> larry: do you ever wonder why people are so intense about this subject? >> i don't. i guess i do on some level. i think it's, you know, if someone is different than you you have to destroy it. you know? if you don't understand -- >> larry: like any kind of prejudice. prejudge means stupid. >> right. it does.
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it's a stupid thing. and i think that people are lining up on the wrong side of history. maybe someday we'll wish they haven't. >> larry: someday we'll have a gay president. >> absolutely. we'll have a gay president. >> we'll probably have a gay man before a woman. absolutely. >> larry: women will come last. >> when hillary was running, i was all for obama. and gosh, she's doing a great job, it, as secretary of state. she's doing an excellent job. wouldn't she be a heck of a president? i don't know. i think she has some -- >> larry: spunk. a little bit of sue in her. >> a lot of sue in her. yes. i think so. >> larry: when you're doing that, back to that character for a second. when you're having fights with the coach. >> right. >> larry: do you ever really get wound up enough to really dislike him? >> no. no. >> larry: always playing a scene. >> always playing a scene. and sue is ridiculous. her prejudices, they benefit her in the moment and she'll change her mind about an opinion if it doesn't benefit her anymore.
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i think that's the thing that is so ridiculous about her. her prejudices and her opinions are just outlandish. >> larry: we'll be right back with a great lady, miss lynch. and sue sylvester. the turn will make you think. ♪ make you re-examine your approach. change your line. innovate. and create one of the world's fastest-reacting suspensions, reading the road 1,000 times per second. it's the turn that leads you somewhere new. introducing the new 2011 cts-v coupe. from cadillac. the new standard of the world. pediatrician recommended pain reliever for children. plus, children's advil® brings fever down faster than children's tylenol®. choose children's advil®. relief you can trust.
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>> larry: the music have madonna, lady gaga and beyonce have been central to some episodes. britney spears is apparently on the call list. why are some of the biggest name want to be on the show? >> people have really taken to this show. and musicians, basically, they love music. they understand the power of music. and i think it touches them all very deeply that this is a show that celebrates making a joyful noise. >> larry: they want to be on. >> they want to be on. i don't know if it is -- lady gaga can't get any bigger. what benefit does she get from this? and i think it is just that when we gave her her award at the vmas, when she came up to accept it, she embraced us and said, i love you guys. she just really loves the show. >> larry: who is coming on in the next year? >> we have a whole -- >> larry: britney spears.
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>> a whole britney spears episode. john stamos has a pafrlt we're doing a whole rocky horror show, i think i can say. that a wonderful actress. she is 6'4". she plays the new football coach. and we go toe to toe and eye to eye. and she is four inches taller than sue sylvester and sue is not used to that. she is used to being the tall one. >> larry: okay. now you sang with madonna. you sang with olivia newton john. are you a singer? >> i guess i'm a syringer. i probably sing more than the kids on the set. i sing all day long. and every once in a while someone will ask me to sing in a professional capacity. >> larry: have you in plays or -- >> yeah. i went through a musical theater thing when i was in college. and i do, did a lot of sketch comedy on stage and i would always find a way to get a song in there.
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and i found a way to get a song in the 40-year-old virgin. ♪ >> larry: was that a fun movie to do? >> that was great. that was one of those -- the first big ensemble. i guess the christopher stuff, too. working with these guys, all that rudd, that was so much fun. >> larry: are there any musicians who said don't use my music? >> in the beginning there was. i'm trying to think who it was so i can shame them. i can't remember. but now people are saying, yes. >> larry: do you get a "glee" bump if your music is on? do you know if i-tunes increased? >> oh, yeah. journey has a whole resurgence due to that number. >> larry: you would have bet that a weekly musical ain't going to work. >> well, i think it's how you put it together.
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and i think in the past the efforts failed because it didn't stick to the formula of musical theater. which is a character has to get to a point of emotion where the only way they can express themselves is through song. and people really respond to that. >> larry: how many songs are on every week? >> well, sometime there are up to the madonna episode, we did ten number. we've done eight in episodes. and the first episode of this new season, we only have four number. >> larry: next tuesday. >> yeah. but it is an amazing episode. >> larry: tell us about it. come on. clue us in. make us watch. >> we have a new coach, a new football coach. >> larry: 6'4". she is really 6'4". >> she is really 6'4". we catch one the characters. we all watched and it were thrilled with it. >> larry: when w the audition of the football coach, did they say she had to be a 6'4" woman? >> i think he knows her and i think she's been in other shows with him.
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>> larry: so she'll be on every week? >> about five episodes in the first half and then probably more in the second. >> larry: how many he wases ahead are you? >> we're working on episode five and six right now. >> larry: what is the workweek sflik. >> we do eight days for each episode which is rather ambitious. it means -- >> reporter: you don't work saturday and sunday. >> monday to friday. >> larry: what day of the week do you get -- >> there is really not one day that we get the script. i just got episode six two nights ago. >> larry: you'll take that home? >> yeah. they send it to your house. then we'll start working episode six like next wednesday? i think? we're still in 205. >> larry: like fonzie previously, do they keep building sue more? >> right now, and this is something coming up that i can use. yeah. we're going to learn more about her. she has a sister with down syndrome. and she talks --
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>> larry: a great scene. >> thank you. she spoke last season of her parents who she said were famous nazi hunters. and she lies all the time. i figured she was making it up. it turns out my parents were indeed nazi hunters and my mother is coming back, played by carol burnett. i know. outrageous. >> larry: what episode? >> i'm not sure. further on. we're at six now and i think it is in the next few. she come back, i guess, all the nazis have been hunted and she comes in to check on her daughters and i know she will have a musical number. and we're so thrilled. >> larry: a closer look at sue and willy's relationship. will they ever be getting together? next. there's a nurse who can access in an instant every patient's past. and because the whole hospital's working together, there's a family who can breathe easy, right now. somewhere in america, we've already answered some of the nation's toughest healthcare questions.
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>> outstanding. >> hey, sylvester, i'm talking to you. >> oh, hey, buddy. i thought i smelled failure >> larry: we're back with terrific jane lynch. it was sue and will on one of the many interesting couple dynamics on glee. do you think sue -- >> will tickle me? >> larry: you know something is going to happen. >> we had a moment last season where he asks me out. and i get all -- hot and bothered. he does basically gives me a lap dance. and then stands me up at bread sticks at the local italian restaurant. and he does it to get back at me. it's like, will, who is really a nice guy, decides to play by my rules. of course he feel terrible about it and he humiliates me. >> larry: was she susceptible to him. >>? yes. not unmoved by his charm and then she is humiliated by him and she forces him to kiss her.
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and right as she is about to kiss her, she says even your breath stops of mediocrity. it stops the kiss. >> larry: we learn more about the sister. are there other thing we'll learn about sue? >> well, her mother is carol burnett. >> larry: her mother is carol burnett. >> that's pretty big. we're just up to episode six. i'm sure they're going to throw something on me. >> larry: why doubted we like -- maybe it is today thwart ig. that we like watching high schools. >> you know what? >> larry: high school. it was the best and worst time of our lives. >> exactly. the hierarchy, our show really focuses on it. the hierarchy is brutal. we try to be subtle about it as adults but it is right out there. you've got the losers. you've got the jocks. sue sylvester paints it in the pilot episode. she says, you've got your jocks and your cheerleaders up in the pent house and then the "glee" club is in the sub basement.
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everybody else is in between. it is really, the hierarchy is really defined in high school. >> larry: what were you like in high school? >> one of though fellow well met. i kind of travelled with all the different groups. >> larry: you were hiding a secret, too. >> i was hiding a secret. that's for sure. that was big a part of, you don't want to be exposed. that would be the worst thing, you know. >> larry: do your parents know? >> they do now. >> larry: they didn't then. >> no. >> larry: did they wonder why you did not go out with boys? >> no. my mother said that they kind of had a feeling. and my parents were very close and they love each other very much. and they talked about everything. my parents were great communicators. they never talked about this. never. >> larry: what do you make of the fan base? they're called gleeks, right? >> right. >> larry: what makes a gleek? >> the people who love making a joyful noise and raising your voice in song. it used to be a shameful thing and now we're saying i'm a gleek.
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>> larry: in your previous life as a character actress. did people used to say, i know you. >> yeah. i saw >> what people would say usually is did we go to high school together or they would say, wasn't that a great party last night, i'd be like, i wasn't at that party. >> larry: what about loss of privacy? >> that's a little challenging. >> larry: are new tabloids yet? >> no. i'm not like a magnet for news, but just -- >> larry: they'll find something. >> maybe. who knows and that's all right with me. i'm not bothered by that. >> larry: it will be that you have a boyfriend. >> i have a boyfriend.
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>> larry: and your wife doesn't know. >> that will be so unbelievable, larry. >> larry: how close are the characters when you play that is it you. >> i don't have to dig very far for these people. i think it's trying to be a good human being keeps me from being sue sylvester in my waking life. i do have a part of me that is arrogant and that thinks i know all of the answers. >> larry: you think that comes from living, having to hide a secret? >> maybe. i just think i'm wired that way, too. i think it's just kind of my defense. and i've had enough therapy, i've looked at myself enough. i was in therapy one day and talking about how people don't follow the rules and my therapist started to laugh and she said you've got to do a character because you're very righteous right now. i created this character called the angry lady and from that angry lady all of these characters i've been doing lately.
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mind if i talk to you for a second? >> sure, buddy. you look steamed. >> how's how does the school deface them? they're not even funny. >> don't be rude, william. i put a lot of thought into those. >> yes, we're back with our remaining moments with jane lynch. i look different because i'm a mckinley high person. does it look good? >> it looks fantastic. >> larry: we have something for you. a jacket with suspenders. >> thank you so much. awesome. >> how about that, folks? making history here. how about that track suit?
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how many are stashed? >> i bet i have close to 30 now. >> larry: you're going to host "saturday night live." >> i don't know it's confirmed. >> larry: i'm confirming it. you're going to host. what about "two and a half men?" >> i love that show. i hope they'll have me back. i had such a great time on that show. >> larry: you play who? >> charlie sheen's therapist and it's the only woman on the show who tells him what's what besides his maid. >> larry: why does it click? >> the sitcom is kind of a dying form right now but they really know how to do it over there at the q two and a half men" and charlie sheen is such an endearing character because he's basically saying i'm a cad but a cad with a good heart and i'm trying my best. >> larry: do you -- if you were the director of "glee" who would you have cast for sue sylvester?
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>> oh, who would i -- that's a very good question. i can only see me in the role, larry. >> larry: when someone gets indelible, you are her. >> i do van answer to that. i think glenn close. she's inspired a lot of -- >> larry: you resemble. >> well, thank you. i'm a poor man's glenn close. her character on "damages," i love her in that show, very much inspired sue sylvester because she has this, you never quite know where she is. is she lying or telling the truth. you always know where sue sylvester is. >> larry: do you look beyond "glee?" >> i am an in the moment kind of person. so i'm enjoying where i am right now. i'm trying to just stay right here. >> in the marriage, who's dom nant. >> we're share. she's very, very smart and she's
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very, very wise. >> larry: and you're? >> i can be, too. we work very well together in that way. >> larry: honestly, do you pinch yourself a little every day? >> i do. this is amazing. i can't believe it. sometimes i feel like i have to step out and look at it because it's truly appreciate it. >> larry: are you enjoying fame? >> yeah, i'm enjoying it. >> larry: it's nice to be recognized. >> it is nice to be recognized. i've been at this a long time and to have people say, hey, i like what you do. >> larry: some people stop new an airport? >> just when i'm eating. but someone interrupting you to tell you how much they love you it's kind of hard to be mad. >> larry: ever get back to the south side of chicago? >> i do. i was born in evergreen park, mary hospital. >> larry: what hospital? >> little company of mary. i was born there in evergreen park and my family is in lagrange. >> larry: sox or dodgers. >> cubs you mean.
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