♪ and all i ever needed was you to be here for me ♪ ♪ this time is the last time you're going to see ♪ >> her voice is it's one of the songs she's recording right now. she's really great. crystal, thank you so much for doing that. certainly one of the best days we've had here in a long time. >> i picked a bad day to be out of the office. >> i felt bad for anyone who wasn't around. >> yeah, i nope -- i know. larry king starts right now. >> larry: tonight, kathleen parker/eliot spitzer preview. she's a conservative, he's a liberal. and they're ready to rumble over politics and practically

everything else. do opposites ever agree? then tony curtis dead at the age of 85. starred in some of hollywood's iconic films -- "spartacus," some like it hot" and "the defiant ones." and he lived a life that rivalled the characters he played on the screen. debbie reynolds is here with a salute to her friend. we'll look back at his last appearance on this show. all next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening, we're delighted to have kathleen parker and eliot spitzer with us. their new show "parker spitzer" debuts on monday night, 8:00 p.m. eastern, 5:00 p.m. pacific. kathleen is a pulitzer prize winning columnist, eliot, the former governor of new york. are you nervous? >> about what? >> larry: are you nervous? >> about what? >> larry: are you nervous? >> about the show?

>> larry: yeah. >> no, i'm more nervous sitting here with you because you're such a star. how's that? >> isn't she amazing? she wins you over from the start. >> larry: how did this come about? give me the story. >> you know, john klein called me. >> john klein called me. >> we'll do this in tandem. >> and said do you want to do a show. >> and he said do you want to do say show. >> and i said, are you nuts. he said, let's have a conversation. he said this will be exciting. you'll do it with someone who is smart, witty and clever. i said, who's that? and he said we have somebody we want you to meet. and when we met, i called him back and said she's a smart. she's smart, witty and clever but i can't beat her in a debate, so why should doi this? debate. >> larry: and you heard they wanted to pair you with eliot spitzer. >> i had a lunch with john klein. he was the president of cnn. and i said i want to you go to new york and you meet the one

who might be your co-anchor that you're going to do this with. i said who is it? he said eliot spitzer. and i took a couple beats and said bold. >> larry: this is going to cancel "cross fire." and mosteople i run into say is this "crossfire" revisited? >> you know, even your introduction said liberal/conservative. >>. >> larry: you say it in your promo. >> we do, but the reality is we want to be thoughtful. what that means is we're going to disagree sometimes. we're going to agree sometimes. we will have a smart conversation, not talking points not predictable, based on facts and try to say, look, there's 15% here. 15% here. 70% in the middle. what does common sense tell us we should do. and we'll disagree about it, but we're going to try to get to a result. >> larry: are you going to have guests? >> absolutely. we're going to indict the

smartest people we can find. >> larry: give me the format. what happens? do you talk the first ten minutes? how does it work? >> kind of like that. we talk about a subject we go through first thing in the morning. >> larry: you don't know mondays? >> no, we don't. >> who could have predicted that rahm would leave tomorrow morning. this is an amazing thing. we'll say this is important, what's your take on it? >> we'll talk about just the two of us going back and forth. obviously, eliot is identified as a democrat and i'm identified as a conservative, i want to reiterate what he said. >> you said democrat conservative -- >> i want to be honest here. i'm not a registered republican. >> too smart to do that. >> larry: after that what happens? >> then we invite guests. we have two guests and we continue that conversation with somebody who -- >> larry: and is the topic the whole hour topic?

>> no, no, no, no. >> we will span the globe for politics, micks -- economics, culture. >> larry: it's not just politics? >> you talk about economics, it's politics. you talk about wall street, money never sleeps. is that politics? everything comes back to that. >> we're going talk to authors, filmmakers, everybody. >> larry: "parker spitzer" has been in rehearsal the past few weeks, so you're going to see something you haven't seen yet -- a preview of what you're going to see monday. watch. >> folks, the middle class is under attack. now, you wouldn't know it if you read the newspapers because you know what they're telling us? the recession is over. it's better than that, it ended in june 2009. i don't believe it. you don't believe it, either. >> mr. president, i feel sorry for you. every time i see you lately, you look like you're wondering how you got stuck with this job.

you look so sad and every time i see you, i want to give you a hug. but that's not how i want to feel about the person chosen to lead this country. >> larry: that's a good start. frankly, many people outside of new york may not know you more than just because of the scandal. >> right. >> larry: do you think that's going to have an impact? you have to deal with it. >> absolutely. i hope people will look at me and say when they find out more, here's somebody who spent many years as attorney general, fighting for the middle class, fighting for the people who didn't have a choice in government anywhere. and when they find out more about what i did as attorney general and governor, they'll say you know what, we think he was right about certain things. i will say very forthrightly, as i have, that i did something egregiously wrong to my family and i hope people will accept that. >> larry: when you heard it was eliot spitzer, you had to think about that, right? >> well, sure. that's the first thing that pops -- well, i approached it

scientifically. i checked out and read every book. i don't take risks on big decisions. i talked to my editor, my family, to the people at "the washington post." i was more concerned about him as a policy wonk. >> larry: do you think it will be difficult, let's say, frankly, there's a major sex scandal story, are you going to cover it? >> sure. >> larry: it will be difficult to deal with. >> it won't be difficult. >> it will be difficult for me. i don't believe in covering sex scandals. i didn't write about eliot spitzer. i didn't write about john edwards. >> larry: since you're discussing many different things -- >> well, we may. i'm not going sniffing in people's personal lives. >> larry: would you have difficulty with it? >> i've been forthright with the public. i've been open about how i erred and how i failed and i reacted

properly to it by resigning. if it's a context where i have to pass judgment, i'll be able to say here's what i did and why, and it's one more piece of -- >> larry: did you ever think when all of that happened that horrible day when you had to resign that you'd be hosting a television show? co-hosting a television show? >> no, no. >> ask him what he thought when he heard it was me. he had never heard of me. >> of course i heard of her. she won the pulitzer prize. no, i had never heard of her. here's the funny thing. they're carried in "the washington post" all over the country. she say celebrity. she goes to st. louis, tells out the auditorium. >> they like me better than they like you. >> i'm not going to take that sitting down.

>> when i was with the trib -- when i lectured. >> new york city is the echo chamber. people here think we're the media capital and we don't often enough listen to the voices from the rest of the country. i will tell you, kathleen's columns, they are not easily pegged as liberal conservative. they're just common sense. i think the response she gets whether it's on tough issues like living in new york or the mosque going up, it evokes a fascinating response. >> larry: monday night as we preview "parker spitzer," monday night, 8:00 eastern, right here on cnn. don't go away. it's our honeymoon.

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good evening, i'm kathleen parker. >> and i'm eliot spitzer. welcome to "parker spitzer." kathleen, let's take a moment and explain what we're trying to do with the show. when i think about it, the single most important thing to me is ideas. and then there's a vacuum. >> that's a good idea, eliot. >> larry: all right, let's get into some political things. what's going to happen in november? >> i think the republicans are probably going to take the house. >> larry: not the senate, but the house? >> i don't know about the

senate, but the house is certain. >> reporter: the senate has a lot of safe democratic seats? >> now, since the republicans nominated folks on the fringe that are witches. >> oh, eliot, good grief. since when did you mind witches? >> when is that, october 31? there's a witch candidate. >> i think that's so unfair, christine o'donnell, i'm not a big fan -- >> don't tell me you're a witch. >> all little girls are fascinated with witches and the reason is, they're powerful women. we didn't have a whole lot of choices. the good witch of the west. >> larry: what do you think is going to happen in november? >> i think the democrats hold the senate because when you go state by state, i think the republicans have really hurt themselves with the nominees. the house, everybody thinks the republicans take it. it is not so clear to me. i'll tell you what, here in new york, there are a lot of seats that are under assault where the republicans will not come out on top at the end of

the day. i think the tide is turning a little bit. i've been speaking to people in the field. the excitement on the democratic side is coming back. the president is getting out there and explaining -- >> it is? everybody in the white house is jumping ship. how can you say they're coming back. >> i'll be very open. that's why i'm annoyed at rahm. this is the worst time for him to leave the white house. i'm sorry, rahm, i love you in many respects, but you're working for the president of the united states. you cannot do anything that hurts him. >> rahm has to get, what, 12,000 signatures before november 22nd? >> he has three weeks between november 22nd and -- >> larry: i have a suggestion and i want you to think about it. bob gates -- not bill gate is -- >> we should bring bill gates in. that would be fantastic.

colin powell has given barack obama indirectly pretty good advice. >> larry: and he'd are inclined to probably accept it? >> i would hope. what a great idea. >> i'll take ten seconds to tell you a true story. in '06 when i was running for governor, there was a rumor one day that colin powell would be the republican nominee. and a reporter came up to me and said what are you going to do if colin powell is the nominee? i said it's very easy. they said, how is it easy? i said if he's the nominee, i'll vote for him. he's a great speaker, thinker. >> larry: he can turn it around? >> absolutely. >> it would be nice, eliot to bring him in and not be so partisan. >> larry: liberals, as you know, many liberals are disappointed with this administration. how do you feel about them? if they're disappointed that

means he's more to the center, isn't he? so you should be happier with him by that reasoning? >> well, i think everybody's disappointed with him for different reasons. and i would put myself in this great big center but slightly to the right of center. i was a big fan of barack obama as he came into office. and was not one of those republicans who wanted him to do badly. i didn't want him to fail. i do think he made a big mistake by tackling these massive policy overhauls at a time when we were very vulnerable economically. looking back it's easy to see he should have gone after the economy and jobs. >> larry: are you disappointed? >> in a certain respect. it's unbelievably difficult with the world's problem on your plate, he's doing a good job tackling them one by one. franklin roosevelt, two years in the administration, same place. ronald reagan, bill clinton. they've all emerged as great leaders. this is what happens after the euphoria of victory, the disappointment. wall street, he didn't do enough.

>> larry: and reagan had a personality, and clinton had a personality. barack obama seems in that department. >> well, we're early. it's only two years in. actually, a lot of people become fully themselves as president after a two-year period. >> but bill clinton emerged. it was an awful moment, the oklahoma city bombing, when he went there and gave this spectacular speech and he became our preacher, our father, our minister. that was when the empathy sort of emerged. so there's time. >> larry: after the 1994 elections when he looked like a dead duck. "parker spitzer" premiers monday at 8:00. huh? it's just an "us" thing. yeah, it's a little something we do. who else is in this so-called "us"? man, i don't know. there's a lot of us. [ chuckles ] ask your friends what it's like to be part of a group that's 40 million strong. state farm insures more drivers than geico and progressive combined. it's no surprise, with so many ways to save and discounts of up to 40%. so call an agent at 1-800-state-farm or go online.

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>> larry: we're back with parker and spitzer. sounds like a law firm, but it's a television show. and it debuts monday night at 8:00 eastern, 5:00, pacific. let's talk individual races. what do you make of this new york governor's race? >> i'm going to defer to my co-anchor here. >> it's a shame it has descended into these crazy allegations involving carl panadino. the republican candidate is not going to win. it will be closer than people would have thought because of dynamic not only in new york, but upstate new york. the upstate economy is

abomination. andrew cuomo will win, but not with the margin he wants. >> larry: why are you critical of him? are you endorsing him? >> i'm not allowed to endorse him. i said very clearly i'm going to vote for him. maybe that is an endorsement. >> you would vote no matter what, right? >> no i cross party lines in races and will always vote for the best candidate. he will win because i think he understands what new york really needs. carl paladino's plans are simplistic. >> larry: what do you think of the governor's race in california? >> well, we've just been talking about -- >> larry: whitman. and the illegals maybe, she's denying it. that race is even. >> yeah, i think -- >> i think jerry brown wins. i do. i think at the end of the -- the jerry brown mystique -- you know, look, at one point, he was governor moonbeam. this goes back 30 years. >> how fast things change. >> but he also was a great mayor in oakland.

great maybe overstates it. he was the mayor in oakland. he was the attorney general. he knows how to govern. i think he's going to pull it out. >> larry: have you seen the ads out there? >> i have not. i have been so completely consumed by this -- tell me about it. >> larry: she's going to spend as much as the presidential race. >> sure, she's spending a for -- fortune. >> larry: he's getting a lot of money coming into him now, too. >> can we talk about the meg whitman thing. >> larry: the charge that she had an illegal working for her. >> and do you think that's a dealmaker? i want to know what you all think. >> larry: don't you have an opinion, pulitzer prize winner? >> i don't know all the facts. how about that. >> oh, my goodness. >> larry: if she hired an illegal, is she in big trouble? >> i think she's in big trouble. >> larry: if she knew. >> if she knew. regardless of how it ends, she's entering a very rough week during which every fact will be parsed. and whatever communications effort she had to send a message about she's a great manager and

she ran a big business and she's going to bring back the economy. the only issue they're going to talk about is this issue, so it's a distraction. >> well, it's a huge issue right now with immigration sort of peaking right now. >> and as you put it, she's been so vigorous in saying prosecute companies. that's the tension and it could be uncomfortable. >> larry: as someone right of center, pulitzer prize winner, very bright, what's your opinion on the tea party? >> i started out as less than a fan of the tea party because i felt like it was terribly divisive and harmful to good candidates who could more likely win national elections. but i've gradually become a little bit more of a fan. i love -- we've talked about this a little bit on the show. we love the grassroots aspect of it. that these are people who have actually gotten themselves organized and who are passionate about what happens to this country. so you have to admire that part. i think we've been unfair to the tea party in many respects

because so often we would focus -- we, the media -- >> larry: well, they show up with placards as obama as hitler -- >> well, there are always weirdos at a rally. there's one weirdo for every 10,000 people. i'm not as quick to criticize them as i was initially. >> here's the thing. we begin with the same premise, grassroots activism is great. that is what changes the country. the labor movement, women's rights, peace movement, environmental movement, all began as grassroots movements. >> larry: all liberal movements? >> well, barry goldwater. that's a wonderful thing about democracy. i happen to think the tea party is really just a repository of anger, and their answers are as vapid as you could be. i don't think there's a meaningful answer that's been posed -- >> i don't think they need to have answers. the tea party movement doesn't have to present a policy statement.

>> well, if it wants to be a real player in politics, eventually it needs to say, here's what we think we should do. >> larry: can't you just be against something? >> you can't just be an nihilist, you can't just say no. >> yeah, you can. >> but you can govern and do it be be politically correct. they want to be taken seriously as a governing force. they need to take one step forward. but let me tell you one step beyond that. my agony is that the democratic party, barack obama should have been the one who capitalized on the very real upset in the middle class. because this is a middle class movement. it's people saying we have been ignored. barack obama should have been the voice for that. and i'm frustrated about that. >> larry: you know. what is great about you two, even though you don't agree, you have chemistry. that's what's going to make this show a hit. we'll be right back. ray. but his mom had new puffs ultra soft & strong to save the day. with lotion-free pillows to cushion the force. puffs holds up better than value tissue of course. next time oliver blew his horn,

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>> larry: we're back with "parker spitzer." debuts monday night. former president carter was here the other day and said he has never in his life, or in his history seen the country more divided than right now. agree? >> well, in my lifetime -- well, no, it's not true. in the '60s, during the vietnam war, we were pretty divided then. >> that was a civil war. >> yeah. >> larry: in his lifetime. >> in his lifetime. >> larry: in vietnam, it was much at the end. there wasn't that many in favor

at the end. >> it feels that way, it feels like we're kind of splitting apart. there are so many different elements. the tea party is actually the third element. yeah, i think -- the war period, i remember very well. >> larry: there's so much anger. >> there is, but it can come back together. it is very -- there's an anger and anxiety of fear out there that is palpable. i think every politician, every pundit, every editorial writer sees it. >> the middle class is suffering. we've got more poor country than -- more poor people than we have at any time in this country. >> that is going to be one of the themes of the show, we're going to talk about how do you save the middle class? the middle class is playing the price for the excess of the very, very wealthy. whether you're a democrat or a republican, that's a factual reality. we've got to figure this out. >> there's anger. there's fear about the economy and the job market. there's anger because there are

all these expansions of government power at a time when they feel like there needs to reining in. >> two years ago, when barack obama was sworn in, everybody loved him. he can get back to that. >> i don't thing so. >> not about him only. >> well, i'm optimistic because i'm an american knew that our nation can pull it together. >> larry: will you ever go back to politics? >> right now, the things i carry about is family, this tv show. and contributing in some way. if we can participate in a conversation in a certain way. >> i think eliot is going to fall in love with journalism, larry. he's going to find out that this is late more fun than politics. >> larry: what if you fall in love with politics? >> that ain't going to happen. >> she enjoys me to go into politics too much. >> never going happen. i've been a journalist for 30 some years. i don't know why anybody runs for public office, if you want to know the truth. i'm glad they do. >> let me defend that for a second. as journalists we mock politicians or say why do it. because those who succeed do something really important and

may be few and far between. the cynicism is very real. >> it's not that i don't admire people who serve their country. >> larry: they stand up, they get counted in november. we don't get counted. >> well, yes, we do. >> larry: but we don't have a november date. we don't have a win/lose on a november date. >> no, that's right. i think eliot's going to enjoy the fact that he does have a platform. he's driven to participate in the public arena somehow. i think this is a nice outlet for him. >> just the way you have. think of that contribution. >> larry: yeah. are you looking forward to it? i mean there is some queasiness? because you've had the wonderful thing of print success. it's a different ball game. >> yeah, it's a different ball game. it's very collaborative. that's a whole new experience for me. i am used to working alone and i i don't speak to anyone until noon.

now suddenly i have a lot of interactions. it's exciting. >> larry: are you exciting? >> there's a lot of tension, and people wanting to see if we succeed. and we better hit this out of the park. >> larry: i see you even get to walk around. >> this is eliot's occasional economic lesson. this is when i take my little nap. >> kathleen falls asleep during this. >> you'll see i'm sleeping on the table during this section. >> larry: good luck to you. >> thank you. >> larry: good luck to you. >> thank you so much. nice to meet you. >> larry: kathleen parker, eliot spitzer. "parker spitzer" debuts monday 8:00 eastern. tony curtis died yesterday, 85 years old. debbie reynolds joins us to talk about her friend. stick around. ♪

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>> larry: screen legend tony curtis died yesterday at age 85. debbie reynolds, the well-known actress, entertainer, she starred in "good-bye charlie" and "rat race" with tony curtis. currently performing a one-woman show. alive and fabulous. she joins coming from the theater in north hollywood. tony was a guest on this show many times. let's take a look at a clip in 1989, in which he discusses his legacy, watch. >> john renoir, a film director was a friend of mine. he told me, the meaning comes after the works. so perhaps my career will be

more examined when i'm not around to examine it myself. >> larry: like jerome powell, the looks got in the way. >> i think so. looks get in the way of everybody. we look at ugly people the same way we look at pretty people. >> larry: and make judgments? >> and we make judgments and criticize. listen, i'm really very privileged to look like i do. larry: all right, debbie, how close were you? >> well, we were really good friends. i love that line, he says, nobody looks as good as he did. he loved life. tony loved life. he certainly didn't want to go now. nobody had a better time than tony. he loved the ladies. he loved art. he loved this business more than anything. >> larry: how good a friend was he? what kind of guy was he? >> well, he's a guy's guy, you know how you are, larry, from brooklyn, what can i say.

>> larry: he's from the bronx. >> you guys stick together. >> larry: he was a great looking guy. >> great looking guy. he had wonderful children. janet lee was a good friend of mine. of course, they were married. we were all very close friends when we were young, long, long time ago. but he had a wonderful life. he had a full life. he was a great, marvelous actor. he really showed everybody he was a good actor. "edefiant ones." "some like it hot" with monroe. he certainly was as funny as can be with that. >> larry: speaking of that, debbie, one of the most favorite roles was in a movie voted funniest comedy ever made "some like it hot" with marilyn monroe and jack lemon. let's take a look at tony i think in drag. >> tell me, who made that flag, your wife? >> no, my flag maker does that. >> who mixes the cocktails, your wife? >> no, my cocktails do it. look, if you're interested in

i'm married or not -- >> no, i'm not. >> well, i'm not. >> that's very interesting. >> larry: he's in drag for most of the movie, but that was not one of the scenes. he related to women well. he new marilyn pretty well, did he not, debbie. at least he told me that. >> yes. well, he did. we all did. marilyn was a sweet gal, she really was. tony, he was very funny in that picture. it was drag, you didn't get to see that one. i just thought he was superb. he was great in that. >> larry: debbie, how's things going with you? >> everything's going great with me. i'm always on the road 42 weeks a year. i'm going to south pointe and vegas next week. i'm here this week. we're going to australia and england. i'm going to pittsburgh. i just keep moving around. i'm afraid if i stop, i'll drop dead. >> larry: thanks, debbie. you're a great entertainer.

>> that's not a good thing to say. you can't retire, by the way, never. we don't want you to ever retire. >> larry: i'll be around. debbie reynolds. ♪ you'll be around you're our pal ♪ >> larry: here's a statement from tony's daughter jamie lee curtis. the quote is my father leaves behind a legacy of great performances in movies and in his paintings and assemblages. he leaves behind his children and family who loved him and respected him and a wife and in-laws who were devoted to him. he also leaves behind fans all over the world. he will be greatly missed. the late tony curtis. hard to say that, late. we'll be right back. i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪

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>> usually when people find out who i am, they get themselves a wheelchair, a shyster lawyer and sue me for $1 million. >> don't worry, i won't sue you no matter who you are. >> look at it on the bright side, you've got the sexiest chest in the navy. >> he's not just any man. he's the king. >> and i'm a slave. and i loved you the moment i saw you. >> you thirsty? colin, we gave them a hell of a run for it, didn't we? >> larry: what a movie that was. debbie reynolds is still with us. we're talking with her about the death of tony curtis. joining us on the phone is hugh

hefner, the founder of "playboy." tony was a guest on our show many times over the years. here he is discussing stardom, watch. what was stardom like for a young kid from new york who used to dream about it? >> too good. >> larry: better than you thought? >> better than i thought. this was an experience i was having. how do you parlay that, how do you come out of those images, joys, disappointments that you think in your brain. the next thing you know, there you are kissing piper laurie. >> larry: and there's the red carpet. >> everywhere you go. >> larry: mr. curtis! >> please. i loved it. >> larry: hugh hefner, how well did you know tony? >> well, tony and i met in 1960. he was going to accept an award

from the box office people as the top male actor of the year. and i was hosting "play boy's" penthouse. and we clicked immediately. we became very close friends. >> larry: what was special about him? >> well, what you saw in particularly his comedic roles, it's who tony was. he was a very special, lovable, likable guy. just a dear friend during good times and bad. and it was a real shocker for me, age notwithstanding, it was a real shocker for me to wake up and discover that he passed away. >> larry: bernie schwartz from new york. debbie, what made him a star? >> well, i have to laugh because we're talking to hugh. we're talking to hugh, who has everything -- that's what tony loved. everything beautiful with all the playgirls. what made tony a star was he had the "it" thing.

he was beautiful, he was a wonderful actor. he was funny, cary grant quality. he had it. >> larry: hugh, do you agree he had it? >> i agree very much with what she said. you know, he was charismatic in person and on screen. and he was a beautiful human being inside and out. >> larry: let's take a look at tony in "spartacus." >> slaves you were and slaves you'll remain. but the terrible penalty of crucifixion has been set aside on the single condition that you identify the body or the living person of the slave called spartacus! >> i'm spartacus!

>> i'm spartacus! >> i'm spartacus! >> i'm spartacus! >> i'm spartacus! >> i'm spartacus. >> all: i'm spartacus! >> larry: what a movie that was. laurence olivier. kirk is still around, kirk douglas. hugh, he died -- his son died in '94 of a heroin overdose. were you close to him at that time? >> talking to me? >> larry: yeah. >> close to whom? >> larry: tony. >> yes, absolutely. i don't remember in that context, but yes. >> larry: how did he handle that? >> i don't really have any particular frame of reference in

terms of that. >> larry: debbie, he battled drugs and alcohol himself, did he not? >> well, yeah. i think that tony handled it very well because he had -- the other children, you know, were very special. jamie lee and kelly. and the other children, you know, they helped him through that. and tony could always meet a crisis. you know, he tried to be a very good father because he was a good person. he tried to be the best that he could be. >> larry: thank you, we're out of time. i've got to run. debbie, thank you so much. by the way, in later years, curtis began painting and i actually have one of his originals in my hallway at home. he was quite a painter. we'll have more on the life and legacy of the one and only bernie schwartz, better known as tony curtis next. did you know prilosec otc

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>> larry: we're back. let's check in with anderson cooper, he will host "a.c. 360" at the top of the hour. anderson, what's our lead? >> we're keeping it honest tonight. more tonight on the strange case that michigan assistant attorney general targeting a student. for months he's written a blog, calling the student a nazi. he put a swastika on the kid's face, called him a bigot, even satan's representative. his boss, the attorney general refuses to fire him or even discipline him, saying it's a matter of free speech. today we learned the student has applied for a personal protection order and the campus has barred the assistant attorney general from going there.

will that prod the attorney general to act? details tonight. also, a case that has shocked the nation. 18-year-old tyler clemente, a freshman at rutgers university committed suicide jumping off the george washington bridge. his roommate is accused of taping him in a sexual encounter and broadcasting it live online. dr. phil joins me to discuss how this keeps happening and what needs to be done to stop this kind of bullying. those stories and a lot more at the top of the hour, larry. >> larry: thanks, anderson. 10:00 eastern, 7:00 pacific. we'll be cowling on friends of cnn heros to tell us more about these extraordinariy people. today, academy award winning actress mira sorvino introduces you to one of them. he's rescued and rehabilitated more than 12,000 women and young girls. watch. >> hi. i'm mira sorvino.

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>> larry: tony curtis, dead at the age of 85. quite a character. appeared on this show many times. here he is talking with me about what life was like behind the scenes on the set of "some like it hot." did you like that script right away? >> right away. we never got a finished script. billy wiler called me, he says, i've got an idea for a movie. two men get dressed up as girls because they see a murder and they have to escape and join the girls. i said i'll do it. i'll play the girl. >> larry: and jack liked it right away, too? >> right away. he came about a week later, frank's going to be too much trouble. i'm changing. i saw a guy in a movie that i thought was excellent, jack lemon. i had known jack socially by

then. i thought, great, because we're the same age. it was much better. he says i'm going to get marilyn to play the girl. >> larry: you knew marilyn. >> i knew her then 12 years. >> larry: had a little romance. >> i did have a little romance with her. she was a lovely girl, a lovely woman. >> larry: how good a talent? >> quite good. what i mean by quite good, look at her in "some like it hot." every moment was perfect for her. we act at the mercy of bad scripts, bad words, you know? you just can't help it. >> larry: she was good at comedy, though, right? >> she was excellent at that, though. troubled during that picture, larry. >> larry: troubled as in close to the end? >> right. it was impossible to get near to her at the end of the movie. she was so out of it. >> larry: where were you when she died? >> i was in europe. >> larry: how did you hear?

>> i heard it -- i heard it from the concierge at the hotel. at the south of france. he said mademoiselle monroe is dead. it was a shock to me. you know? i liked her a lot. listen. everybody's got differences. you know? but at those early days, for marilyn and me, we're the king kongs of the business. without anybody accepting it. >> larry: what was it like to dress up as a woman? >> well, i liked it. at the beginning i wasn't sure i would like it. but i liked it. there was something appealing about it. >> larry: what? >> i found it was delicate. >> larry: thought like a woman? >> yeah, i did. i thought of my mother and grace kelly. nice combination. let me tell you a quick story, if i may. they sent me to western costume with jack lemon. i was putting on ann margaret's dresses and loretta young, and they looked horrible.

so i went to billy, i said those dresses don't look good and i want to feel comfortable. he says let ori make them for you. i got so excited. i ran and told jack before we started. i said jack, guess what? he said what? i said, ori kelly is going to make our dresses. he went, oh! we both got so excited. he took measurements of jack, somebody taking numbers down, 67, 34, 51, 97, 30. then he did me. 18, 36, 55, 44, 36. then he went and did marilyn, who was in a pair of panties and a little blouse. this guy was -- and you know, ori kelly was cute. he had those soft tapes that he would rip out and catch the end of it. he had a little flourish. what a charming man. so he measured marilyn. 18, 35, 36, 37. put it's around her bottom, he says, tony curtis has a better looking ass than you.