tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 1, 2010 2:00am-3:00am EDT
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thanks for watching, tonight the attorney general of michigan says one of the men working for him is, quote, clearly a bully for singling out a college student for attack in person and online, yet he says he can't fire him. we've uncovered new evidence suggesting otherwise and new pressure from michigan's governor to can this guy. also tonight, new details and possible new charges in the case of the college student who jumped off a bridge after his roommate used a web cam to stream images of him in his room with another male student on to the internet. it's a case that shocked the country. dr. phil mcgraw joins us to talk about what happened to the 18-year-old tyler clementi.
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and a medical mystery solved, following up on a woman with an illness no one could identify. how disease detectives figured it out and saved her life. you'll meet her. we begin with new developments in the bizarre case of an assistant attorney general of michigan who for months has been targeting an openly gay college student. last night on the program the attorney general of michigan said he couldn't discipline his employee, even though what he thought what he was doing was bullying. tonight we have new evidence suggesting that the attorney general of michigan actually could do something about it if he really wanted to. the attorney general was implying there weren't any grounds yet to dismiss the staffer. turns out there may be. we'll show you the evidence in a moment and you can decide for yourself. first i want to bring you up to speed on what is a truly odd story. this is the assistant attorney general andrew shirvell, on the left there. for months he has been targeting the michigan university student body president, chris armstrong. shirvell has set up a website entirely devoted to attacking armstrong. this is one blog posting, a picture of the college student, chris armstrong, with the word "resign" scrawled on his face. a rainbow flag there, and a
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swastika in the center. there's months of posting like this, page after page on this guy's blog. unproven allegations, smears, calls the college student a nazi-like recruiter for the cult that is homosexuality. that's a quote. he calls him a privileged pervert. he's even called him satan's representative on the student assembly. in addition, shirvell, who is a public official, has shouted down the college student, armstrong, in public, on campus and has appeared outside armstrong's home videotaping at night. i interviewed shirvell two nights ago. >> i've got to ask you. you're a state official. this is a college student. what are you doing? >> well, anderson, basically if you've been involved in political campaigns before, you know all sorts of stuff happens. and this is just another tactic bringing awareness to what chris really stands for. >> this is not some national figure, this is a guy who's running a student council. >> well, anderson, as a private citizen and as a university of michigan alum i care, because
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this is my university. and i wasn't the only first person to criticize chris. in fact, long before i started the blog a couple of weeks before that, the alliance defense fund, a well-known legal christian foundation put out an alert about chris. so i'm not the only person that has criticized chris, and i'm not the first person to criticize chris. >> but you are the only person running this blog, which is putting nazi swastikas on this guy. you're a grown adult. does that seem appropriate to you? >> like i said, this is a political campaign. this is nothing personal against chris. i don't know chris -- >> what do you mean it's not personal? you're outside his house, videotaping his house, you're shouting him down at public events, you're calling him satan's representative on the student council, you're attacking his parents, his friends' parents, i mean, you can't say it's not personal. >> well, chris, in any political
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campaign you have to raise awareness and issues, and that's one way of doing it is by protesting. >> let's remember, mr. shirvell is not in a political campaign, he's not running for anything, nor is chris armstrong. he's a student body president, he's already won. mr. shirvell insists he's exercising his free speech and last night his boss, michigan attorney, mike cox, latched on to that saying he doesn't like what his employee is doing but he can't fire him. >> why is he still employed? >> well, for a number of reasons. here in america we have this thing called the first amendment, which allows people to express what they think. and engage in political and social speech. and more on point, the supreme court, both the united states supreme court in 1995 in a case called the u.s. versus treasury employees said that civil service employees in the federal system and by extension in the state system have first amendment rights outside of work
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as long as it doesn't impact their performance at their job. >> well, i later asked the attorney general if he could not in fact discipline mr. shirvell under a clause in the state's civil service law barring conduct unbecoming a state official. >> you think this is unbecoming? >> it's certainly unbecoming of civil discourse, it's unbecoming of common courtesy, and you know, i quite frankly, i feel embarrassed for mr. armstrong, you know, that he has this unwanted attention. but again, anderson, this is speech put on a blog. now, if there's conduct that's verified, for instance -- if a personal protection order was sought by mr. armstrong and granted, in the michigan civil service or a disciplinary code, we could start looking at things in terms of perhaps sending to an employee assistance program. >> so if there was a restraining
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order or something filed or there was a lawsuit by mr. armstrong against mr. shirvell, you might look at this differently or that might change your ability to do something? >> absolutely. you know, it's -- there's a spectrum between pure speech and actual physical actions. now, clearly if he was stalking him and violating the criminal law, action could be taken against him. >> so that was last night. today we learned chris armstrong actually filed for a personal protection order back on september 13th. take a look, this is the actual application. he says, quote, the actions mr. shirvell has taken over the past four months have been incredibly distressing. that's what chris armstrong wrote. he alleges a pattern harassment and defamation online and accuses shirvell of calling his supervisor asking him if he knew armstrong was a racist, which by the way mr. shirvell
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acknowledges on his blog doing. he also says shirvell protested against him outside a nightclub in ann arbor. which mr. shirvell also acknowledges on his blog. the hearing on the case is reportedly scheduled for monday. we also learned the university of michigan has actually barred andrew shirvell from setting foot on campus. a campus police spokeswoman telling the local newspaper they're basing it on an investigation involving, and i quote, potential harassment or stalking or intimidation. this no trespassing order was read to andrew shirvell september 14th. so the no trespassing order involves action, not speech. so they would perhaps seem to weaken attorney general cox's claim that there's no cause at all to fire shirvell. either the attorney general was unaware of the orders or mr. armstrong's application for protection order last night when we spoke to him, or he just didn't mention them. we put in calls to his office tonight, we have yet to hear back. governor jennifer granholm weighed in today on facebook, she's a former attorney general
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and said, quote, if i was still attorney general and andrew shirvell worked for me he would have already been fired. by the way, we discovered today mr. shirvell's blog is still online but no longer open to the public as you can see, we'll show you a picture, it says this blog is open to invited readers only. not sure how one gets invited. joining us, senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. and jim tierney, former attorney general of the state of maine as well as director of the national state attorneys general program at columbia university's law school. jeffrey, it sounded as if the attorney general of michigan perhaps didn't know his employee had been banned from the campus and mr. armstrong had applied for a protection order. would that make a difference? >> it would make a huge difference. although i think just the blog alone would have been grounds for firing. but when you add up to the fact that he has now been apparently officially barred from the campus, that there is an order, a request for a restraining order pending -- >> which the judge didn't automatically grant. there's a hearing monday. >> and the judge is proceeding cautiously, saying she wants to hear from both sides.
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but there is such ample grounds to fire this guy or at least at a minimum to suspend him, that i think attorney general cox's position is increasingly just implausible in the extreme. >> jim, you're a former attorney general in the state of maine. would this guy still be on your staff if -- >> of course not. i don't think he would be in any real place in the country. >> is michigan not a real place? >> there's civil service rules here that i don't -- i'm an expert on michigan civil service law, but i will say this. a.g. offices are not democracies. there's a boss. you don't work 9:00 to 5:00 when you work for the attorney general because you become kind of a symbol. you are a walking symbol of law enforcement. you're the way the world is supposed to be. you can't enforce a law if you don't follow it. so you that's why mike cox is very aggressive, they've done important things but on this i don't understand it. >> there is a statute in the civil service law that says
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you can be disciplined for conduct unbecoming a public official. certainly mr. cox seems to agree this is unbecoming and certainly not appropriate behavior. he's arguing it's a free speech issue. >> it's not free speech. he does have the constitutional right to free speech. what he doesn't have is a constitutional right to a job. that's the issue at hand. so the question really becomes if you can't fire him or think you can't fire him, suspend him. if he can't suspend him, put him in an office to play solitaire all day. but you don't let him sign public documents or identify himself as a law enforcement officer of the state. you can't do that. >> is this, jeffrey, stalking? i was reading the michigan penal code which defines stalking as a willful course of conduct involving repeated or continuing harassment of another individual that would cause a reasonable person to feel terrorized, frightened, harassed or molested and actually causes the victim to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed or molested. i mean, would that apply? i guess the argument could be that this chris armstrong could be argued to be some sort of
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public official in that he's a student body president. >> i read that definition today and i thought to myself, bingo. this is exactly what armstrong is being made to feel. remember, it's a subjective standard, meaning that causes him to feel. it depends on how he feels. armstrong obviously, when you read that, really chilling summary of his affidavit, when he's asking the court for protection, the list of things, not just blog posts, but physical contact in the sense of showing up at things, that shirvell has done over the past several months, it's scary as hell. and armstrong is obviously scared, and that is definitely, at least in my opinion, within the definition of stalking. >> jim, have you ever seen a case like this? >> well, no, we wouldn't be talking about it every night if we had. i have seen places where assistant ags have engaged in misconduct both in classified states and nonclassify states.
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if you get a serious charge and this is way beyond serious charge, you immediately kind of say, turn in your badge here. you've got due process, but we're not going to let you continue to walk around, because you know, assistant a.g.s are in court in michigan every day in front of judges and carry with them the reputation and culture of a terrific office -- >> because it also affects the perception of that office. >> all kinds of matters. >> would a gay person in michigan feel comfortable, not only having andrew shirvell represent them as an attorney for the state, but going into the attorney general's office if this guy is employed here. >> this is way beyond gay people, it's about how we treat each other. we're all god's children, we're all citizens with constitutional rights. if you don't think the a.g. office calls it right, if you don't think every person on that staff is with you enforcing the laws of the constitution, then you have a perception problem that's hard to put away. >> let me just argue devil's advocate here. what if this was reverse and the assistant attorney general was a gay employee for a very conservative attorney general and the attorney general felt that's inappropriate and conduct unbecoming. could they be fired?
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because the argument of those who say this is a slippery slope, that if you fire this guy for his ideas, then you can fire anybody. >> this isn't about ideas. this is about his harassment of a single individual. the -- >> i'm trying to come up with something to argue the point. >> but that's why i don't think the analogy holds. and the other point is he has no recourse, armstrong. he has nothing to do except go to court to try to get relief from this person, because he's operating unimpeded by his own employer. you have to remember the political context here. mike cox is a conservative republican, unsuccessful candidate for governor, who has a history of not being particularly friendly to the gay community. shirvell is a political ally, a campaign worker. it certainly raises the question of why he's protecting him, perhaps because they are ideologically in sync. >> i'm going to put distance between myself and jeff on that. i don't think that you can make this a political ideal.
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he's a boss. he's made a personnel decision. i think he's made it wrongly. i think this new information that there actually was basically an order off campus and this injunction, if that assistant a.g. hasn't told his boss that, that's excuse enough. >> that's why we're really curious to hear from the attorney general's office. did he know of this and if he didn't know of it, did shirvell tell anyone on the staff and if he didn't that would seem to be pretty damning stuff. >> that would be another grounds for firing but not the only one. >> jim tierney, good to have you on the program, jeff toobin as well. let us know what you think. join us on the live chat. we're going to continue to follow this case. the hearing is monday. sarah palin saying we're not checking the facts about a democratic politician. the question is has she really checked her facts. see the tape and decide for yourself. keeping them honest, ahead. and the heart wrenching details about the final hours of tyler clementi's life, his intimate, private life broadcast live on the internet by his college roommate. he killed himself. dr. phil mcgraw joins us to talk
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keeping them honest tonight, today in slamming a campaign attack ad from democratic congressman alan grayson sarah palin accused us of not doing our job. she tweets, grayson's twisted campaign ad insults media ads to media distrust problem. he blatantly lies in his vile rant but greedy media run it anyway with no fact check.
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ours is holding public figures accountable when they play fast and loose with the facts that you need to make political decisions. so keeping them honest, here's the fact check we did indeed we did do on mr. grayson's ad days ago. watch. >> five weeks away from the midterm elections and two new campaign ads distort the facts through clever editing. one ad belongs to a democratic, one to a republican. we're calling them out tonight because anyone who wants your vote and trust shouldn't try to get it by insulting your intelligence with trickery. the first ad is by alan grayson, democrat of florida, running against daniel webster whom he calls taliban dan. >> i'm congressman alan grayson and i approve this message. >> religious fanatics try to take away our freedom in afghanistan, in iran, and right here in florida. >> wives submit to your husbands. daniel webster wants to impose his radical fundamentalism on us. >> she should submit to me. that's in the bible. >> webster tried to deny
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battered women medical care. he wants to force raped women to bear the child. >> submit to me. >> taliban dan webster. hands off our bodies and our laws. >> labeling your opponent the taliban is obviously deeply offensive and flat out wrong. taliban stone people to death and murder american troops. is this really what passes for political discourse today? if a republican did this to a democrat, liberals would be outraged. it's a low blow. but what's also false is the way congressman grayson has edited mr. webster's statements. repeatedly saying she should submit to me, submit to me. sounds ominous. we asked the webster campaign for the context of those statements and they sent us the full statement mr. webster made to conservative religious group about keeping a journal and writing down verses from the bible. >> find a verse. i have a verse for my wife. i have verses for my wife. don't pick the ones that say she should submit to me. that's in the bible, but pick the ones that you're supposed to do.
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so instead, that you'd love your wife. even as christ loved the church and gave himself for it. and as opposed to wives, submit yourself to your own husband. >> so whatever you may think of mr. webster and his beliefs and politics, the actual statement he's making is not the ominous command to women portrayed in grayson's commercial. >> so that was our coverage. joining us now, tea party supporter dana loesch and roland martin. i don't want to presume sarah palin watches this show every night or if at all, but there were plenty of people pointing out the grayson ad is completely dishonest and wrong. don't you think it's disingenuous for her to suggest that all the media or the lame stream media, as she calls it, is giving grayson a free pass? >> well, anderson, thanks for having me back. i want to extend to her the benefit of the doubt. i have like to always extend to people the benefit of the doubt just in case i may be wrong about what they're saying or about their judgments. but in this case, clearly, and i do appreciate the way that you did fact check this and other
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media outlets did as well. and i think that whenever anyone in the media does -- when they do what they're supposed to do, when you have the media that says, hey, look, regardless of what side it's on, this is wrong, we're the watchdog for the people, this is what we're going to do, credit has to be given where credit is due. and i think it would be great to later see a tweet from former governor palin to say, hey, that was great, thank you for fact checking this, because this needs to be done. i think the big thing is that sadly in our current culture, it seems to be more the exception rather than the rule and we need more exceptions. >> but, dana, i understand your point but why don't you just come out and say it? she was wrong. she made a flat out mistake. not only that, when you have people who follow her and they believe everything that she says, they take that as fact. not only did anderson show fact check a democrat, he also fact checked the republican. so the question is will sarah palin have the audacity to criticize a republican who also
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distorted a particular commercial. >> but let me jump in here, let's not make this about how good a job we did on this show because frankly no one really wants to hear about that, but grayson has now sent out a fundraising letter basically making fun of sarah palin for tweeting about his ad, he calls her a quote, half baked alaskan and says what is it about sarah palin and twitter? is she fond of it because she can draft a tweet on her palm? it 140 characters that represents the maximum length of palin's attention span, goes on and on like that. why should grayson be trying to make hay out of this, we've tried to get him on the show to defend that ad, he won't come on. >> because he's doing what politicians do on both sides, use anything to their political advantage. >> the media was all over o'donnell for ducking from the national media, i don't hear a lot of media folk attacking grayson for being m.i.a. on this issue. >> and he should be rightly criticized for it at well. what you have is political
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hypocrisy on both sides. that's the problem. and they're in the middle of this crazy election, they don't care. if it raises more money for them, they'll keep doing it. >> let's move on and talk about lisa murkowski, running a write-in campaign against joe miller, obviously the tea party candidate who won. a new cnn poll shows the race is a statistical dead heat. she's taking the fight directly to the tea party express saying they're trying to buy the senate seat for joe miller. i know you're no fan of hers. are you worried this race is tight? do you buy that it's tight? >> i am a little bit concerned. i do think that lisa murkowski, i am not a fan of lisa murkowski at all whatsoever. i think she is a disgrace to the republican party, to conservatism. i think she is a disgrace to the tea party movement, that she once courted by the way and now she's trying to go up to blast because she lost the people's vote, that people in alaska, that's what the primaries are about. that's what elections are about. she lost the people's vote. she should gracefully step aside and show true class and show what being a true conservative
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lady is and endorse this candidate. >> what about that? people had a right to vote and they voted for joe miller. >> quick fact check. the people did not vote. republicans in the republican primary voted. remember, senator joseph lieberman. >> it's still an election. >> one second, i didn't interrupt you. >> you did. >> lieberman lost, what happened? he then ran as an independent in the general election and actually won. does the process allow for a write in? yes, it does. >> that's great, that's fine. no, no, you interrupted me and now it's my turn to interrupt you. it goes both ways. >> we get your point, roland. dana? >> the thing about this is regardless, the people overwhelmingly voted for joe miller. they preferred joe miller over lisa murkowski. she lost the election, period. >> so why is it tight? >> i'm not finished. you don't come in as the second place and say, okay, i'm still going to run because she is
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showing that she cares more about getting this seat than she does about enacting the will of the people. if she cared about the will of the people, she would listen to them, because they made their voices known at box. dana, appreciate you being on, roland martin, as well. >> thanks a bunch. shocking story about a rutgers university freshman a talented accomplished violinist commits suicide by jumping off a bridge. what drove him to do, it humiliation through cyberbullying, that is so disturbing. we'll give you the details on the case. and rahm emanuel to take a big step tomorrow, that story next.
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in a moment we're going to talk to dr. phil and why bullying drives some teens to commit suicide and what to do about it. first randi kaye has the 360 bulletin. randi? the government of ecuador has declared a one-week state of emergency after violence in the capital killed one and wounded others. members of the national police force took to the streets to protest what they claim is a cut in benefits. ecuador's president met with the protesters but was taken to a hospital after someone lobbed
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tear gas at him. looking now at live pictures at that hospital. late tonight the president said he believed he had been kidnapped by police since he was not being allowed to leave the hospital that he'd been taken to. sources tell cnn that rahm emanuel will step down as white house chief of staff tomorrow. it's been an open secret he wants to run for mayor of chicago, but an announcement of his candidacy is not expected tomorrow. a rare glimpse of north korea's heir apparent, a photo released of kim jong un, the youngest son of leader kim jong il promoted by his father this week to the rank of four-star general. does earth have a twin planet in outer space? astronomers say they've discovered a planet that may support life, that has gravity similar to earth's and likely has water on its surface, but no earthlings are going to there any time soon. it's 120 trillion miles. that's right, trillion, with a "t" away from here.
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we've done a lot of reporting over the years on bullying but we've now seen heart breaking examples of how dangerous it can be, little kids who have killed themselves after being tormented. last night i talked to the parents of this little boy, 13-year-old asher brown. he lived in texas. he shot himself to death one week ago. his stepdad found his little body in the bottom of a closet. his parents say he was constantly bullied by four kids because he was small and because he was gay. the story i want to talk about now is the kind of bullying unlike anything we've seen with little kids. take a look at 18-year-old tyler clementi, he started his
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freshman year at rutgers university in new jersey. he was a talented violinist. today a medical examiner confirmed a body pulled out of the hudson river yesterday is tyler's. he committed suicide by jumping off the george washington bridge. on the day of his suicide it looks like he posted a note on his facebook page. it said simply, jumping off the gw bridge sorry. the stories about why he did this is frankly just sickening. it appears tyler is a victim of cyberbullying allegedly at the hands of two other rutgers students, one his roommate. prosecutors say they turned on a web cam and taped tyler having a sexual encounter in his dorm room with another man and actually streamed the images live on the internet. they've been charged with invasion of privacy. they may also face a charge of bias. tyler found out about the cyber spying and was distraught, angry his roommate and roommate's friends seemed more concerned about the fact he was gay and less about the violation of his privacy. he wrote about it on another chat room saying the fact the people he was with, meaning his
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roommate's friends, saw my making out with the guy as the scandal whereas i mean, come on, he was spying on me. do they see nothing wrong with this? cnn hasn't been able to confirm that post was authored by tyler but the website confirms the post was traced back to rutgers. a short time ago i spoke about this with dr. phil. it seems strange at this time where there's a higher acceptance of gays and lesbians in this country we're seeing a rash of young people killing themselves. >> you know, i think the problem is that they're losing control in that they don't get to announce what they want to announce when they want to do it. if somebody outs them so cruelly and so brutally. i mean, think about what happened here. this wasn't someone that just said, this is a gay classmate of mine, this is someone that took a video of someone in an intimate act. doesn't matter if it was a gay sex act, a straight -- doesn't matter.
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that would be a horrible experience for anyone. and to do that can be really devastating to a person psychologically. now, the thought is, you cannot unring this bell. think what had to be -- >> once it's out there, it's always out there. >> digitally, it can never go away. every job interview, this could be pulled up. every application to another school this could be pulled up. so this person just feels like, you know what? i am damaged irreparably and forever and that's the kind desperation that leads to an act of suicide. >> i read a friend of one of the guys charged, ravi, commented, it wouldn't have been any different if a girl had been in the room. i find that hard to believe, though. if this guy's roommate clearly seemed to have been titillated or whatever at the fact his room mate was gay. >> clearly he thought it made this more sensational and more scandalous which suggests a real bias. it suggests a real homophobic reaction on this student's part, which makes it particularly more
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damaging to the kid. i mean, who knows whether this young man's family knew that he was gay or not. so this just backed this young man into a horrible corner, and he sees no option, no escape from that. and when you have that kind of desperation, you talk about an alone feeling. imagine what this young man's last 24 hours of life had to be like as he saw this and people start telling him about it, and then the moments he spent on that bridge at the end thinking, you know, there's no other way, there's nowhere to turn. >> and in a way it relates to the cyberbullying stuff that you and i have been covering lately which is, now, because of technology, bullying which used to just happen in schools is happening -- it follows kids at home. it's online, it's everywhere they go. >> it's terrible. and, of course, the thought of the victim is that everybody in the world has seen this. and that everybody in the world
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is going to respond to it like the mean-spirited person that created it. now, you know, you and i may have been shown that video and said, you know, the terrible thing here is the person who did this and felt compassion for this person. but it's very likely that he did not anticipate that there would be people that would have compassion and in fact would relate to his pain and help him. had he known that, had he had that thought in his mind, then he might not have done it. he might have reached out for help. i've not heard anyone say that he did in this ensuing period of time, reach out for help with a counselor at school or otherwise to get some kind of support. >> dr. phil, thanks. >> thank you. still ahead, a team of doctors cracking a medical mystery. a woman transformed. a surprise performance by crystal bowersox in our
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tonight we continue our doctor detectives series with a remarkable update on sally massagee. you may remember we introduced you to sally last week. sanjay gupta followed her story for more than a year. she searched for years for a diagnosis but no one could tell her why her muscles were growing out of control. sanjay met her at the national institutes of health. where a team of doctor detectives was trying to crack the medical cold case. time was running out. >> reporter: at 53 years old, sally massagee was physically ripped. >> everybody assumed that i spent a whole lot of time in the gym. >> reporter: but sally didn't lift weights. whatever was causing her body to bulk up uncontrollably was taking away her ability to live her life. >> it was very frustrating. i was losing the ability to do the things i loved to do.
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it became increasingly difficult just to walk. at some point i knew if it continued it would kill me. >> reporter: she'd seen countless medical specialists. inform one had an explanation. and that's why dr. william gall and his team of world class specialists at the undiagnosed diseases program was trying to solve the mystery. >> this is super impressive. i mean, you literally see a cleavage right in the middle of her back because those muscles are so big. dr. william gall, the program lead investigator. >> bottom line, it's not acromegaly, just confined to the muscle, what in the world could this be? >> at the undiagnosed diseases program, sally went through a gruelling week of exams and tests, including a muscle biopsy that proved to be the key to the mystery. sally got the diagnosis she was so desperate for, led to a stem cell transplant a little more than a year ago. sally came to new york this week to show sanjay and me just how
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much better she is today. it's great to see you smiling and happy. >> thank you. it's great to be here. >> the last time we saw you, you said things were improving slowly, little by little. how about today? >> they continue to improve. it's very exciting. i feel normal now. i feel 100%, which is really great. >> i heard you had a big moment this morning. >> yes. i was able to put on my wedding ring this morning. i hadn't been able to wear it since january of 2008. my fingers are smaller and so i was able to get it on. >> can i see? >> it's still a little tight but. >> wow, that's great. so that's the first time since 2008 that you can put on your wedding ring. >> yes. yes. everything is like that. >> everything had grown bigger. >> right. right. i couldn't reach up to reach my ears to put on earrings and now i can put on earrings. i was -- >> sanjay, some people seeing
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this would think, look, gaining muscle, not necessarily for sally but some people that would be a great thing. not working out, you're gaining muscle, but it's incapacitating. >> completely. it's funny, to hear you describe it, because just the complete lack of movement and then you -- the protein is actually making her muscles probably weaker. she's not getting stronger, she's becoming less limber, weaker and the simplest things become impossible to do. it can get worse than that, even. those muscles can get so big it can start to crush somebody, including the rib cage and internal organs. >> we expect doctors this day and age to not at least cure it but know what is our problem. >> right. i came to realize those assumptions that i had, you know, that they're going to have the answers, period, that i'm entitled to them having the answers, they're the doctors, they should know, and it's very frightening. >> it must have been a huge moment for the doctors at the udp to figure out what it was. >> yeah. i mean, it's interesting. they have become quite accustomed to failure. they say 85% to 90%. they tell sally, patients like sally that when they come in, so there's no misconceptions that
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the likelihood is not high they're going to solve things. but when they do, not only does someone like sally get a treatment, but they find something that they really haven't found before. they describe something they haven't described before. that's the thing i found so fascinating. because of sally, other patients who are afflicted with this are going to come to a diagnosis much more easily now and get a treatment much more easily now. so that's how science moves. >> and how do you -- what's your advice for people facing something that they don't know what it is? i mean, how did you get through? >> there are a lot of things. one of them is to maintain hope and to maintain a positive attitude. >> hope. >> i really decided bathing my body in adrenaline and fear hormones, stress hormones was not helping it. so you have to learn what to do within yourself to focus on positive things and to enjoy life. and that's a part of it, too,
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especially if your life is going to be shorter, you don't know how long it's going to be, saver the parts of it that you have, you know? every moment is so precious. and then you realize that, and the time with your loved ones really savor those times. and one thing, too, is that it's a team approach that the patient needs to participate as well as the doctors. if they need to know something that they haven't asked about, volunteer it, you know? or if they forget something, volunteer it. it's -- you need to be in there thinking and talking too and not just waiting for them, passively waiting for them to take care of it. >> it's so great to see you smiling and happy. >> it's so exciting. yeah. >> sally, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> tomorrow at 8:00 p.m., watch sanjay's in-depth special report, sally's search for a diagnosis and 6-year-old kyly, two complex medical mysteries, where do the clues lead? 8:00 p.m. tomorrow. still ahead, did saxby chambliss find the person in his
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office who sent that hate-filled message? and "american idol" crystal bowersox entertains us in an improm tu concert. we'll show you some of her surprise performance tonight. we need directions to go to... pearblossom highway? it's just outside of lancaster. sure, i can download directions for you now. we got it. thank you very much! check it out. i can like, see everything that's going on with the car. here's the gas level. i can check on the oil. i can unlock it from anywhere. i've received a signal there was a crash.
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following a number of stories tonight, randi kaye joins us with a quick bulletin. anderson, georgia senator saxby chambliss today fired a staff member who posted an anti-guy slur online. writing from the saxby office, the employee allegedly declared, quote, all gays must die. his response to a senate vote on the don't ask, don't tell policy. in a formal apology, chambliss said such comments are, quote, simply unacceptable. flood warnings in effect from southeast to maine as tropical storm nicole moves north. torrential downpours stranded cars, toppled trees and caused major delays at airports all along the east coast. fisher-price is recalling about 10 million toys, including baby play areas, tricycles and highchairs. in most cases, the company is concerned about possible choking hazards. and yaba daba doo.
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the flintstones are 50. your children may know them as a funny looking multivitamin, but baby boomers will remember fred, wilma, barney and betty from the prime time cartoon series that premiered 50 years ago today. you can't forget my favorite, dino. special place in my heart for dino. >> we have a special place in our heart for crystal bowersox after today. we taped a special about bullying today, after we were done, because crystal had been bullied in school, she basically gave us a live concert in our newsroom. and it was amazing. her voice is incredible. you see people singing on "american idol" and stuff and you think, okay, they need practice. she just took out a guitar and knocked everybody dead. take a look at what she did. >> wow. ♪ all i ever wanted was you to be there for me ♪ ♪ and all i ever needed was you to be here for me ♪
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