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the crime trial that's rev etted the country, the connecticut home invasion horror. a woman and her two daughters held captive and killed at home. two men charged facing death. we'll show you what happened in court today and what happened in the home when the robbery turned deadly. we begin though tonight keeping them honest with new developments in what is the strangest story we've been following in a long, long time, the case of an assistant attorney general in michigan who for a month has singled out a guy college student for attack. andrew shirvell, him on the left, and a college student, chris armstrong, that's him on the right. calls for mr. shirvell to be fired have been growing for days since he appeared on this program. today it was announced mr. shirvell is now on voluntary personal leave. he's not been fired, he still has a job, but he faces a disciplinary hearing when he returns. his boss is the attorney general of michigan, mike cox. that's him. he says he can't fire shirvell because shirvell has the right of free speech in his spare time. a lot of legal experts disagree, saying his actions go way beyond
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what's appropriate for a public official and way beyond matters of free speech. so the question is, why hasn't he been fired or at least reprimanded? on this program, the attorney general implied that shirvell was just a minor functionary in his office. tonight we've uncovered evidence shuging shirvell's political ties to the attorney general go way back. we'll get to that in a moment. andrew shirvell launched his blog. after months of being attacked and confronted on campus, chris armstrong requested a protection order on the 13th of last month. shirvell has been barred from setting foot on campus in part of things like this, picketing outside a club and armstrong's home with a video camera. remember, chris armstrong is a college student. mr. shirvell, though off duty, is a public official, also a university of michigan alum.
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so there's court action pending against shirvell and a no trespass orderner effect. yet today when we contacted the attorney general's office they asked for details from both from us, seemingly unaware of either. we also have questions of the role and connection to shirvell. i first asked him about those ties on wednesday. >> jeffrey toobin last night on this program, cnn legal analyst, said this is more about you than about shirvell. and he said that shirvell's a political ally of yours who worked on your campaign and that, you know, you campaigned on family values and weren't very supportive of, you know, gay rights. and to fire him would be politically difficult for you and that that plays a part in this story. i wanted you to be able to respond to that. >> well, you know, mr. toobin reminds me of the old joke, i'm not a lawyer but i play one on tv. >> he went on to emphasize it was a free speech issue and his hands were tied. other than attacking toobin,
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though, he really didn't answer the question about his political ties. here's what we uncovered in michigan campaign finance records. thousands of dollars paid by the cox campaign to andrew shirvell. this goes back to, way back to 2002 to a campaign. consulting fees, pay roll fees and other campaign-related expenses. shirvell it turns out also worked on mr. cox's 2006 campaign. as for his job, attorney general cox described him as a front line grunt assistant prosecutor. he works in the office's appellate division which makes him more than a simple grunt. we invited mr. cox to come back on the program and talk, he declined. he did take a shot at current michigan governor, jennifer granholm, who tweeted yesterday if she were still attorney general she would have fired shirvell by now. cox said i don't know why she's so freaking irresponsible. she went to harvard law school of the civil service rules are a huge shield for free speech and she knows that. actually we looked it up, section 2-6, says an appointing
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authority may discipline a classified employee for just cause. just cause includes but is not limited to the following. conduct unbecoming a state emply ee. governor granholm, a democrat who does not share cox's political views, clearly believe's shirvell's conduct is unbecoming and so does her predecessor, attorney general for 37 years. >> when he was barred from the university of michigan because of his actions, that raises the question of sexual harassment and intimidation. right away there's laws against that. i would have my lawyers check into it and if he had done any of those things he violated his agency and should be disciplined immediately. >> joining us now is senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin and alma wheeler smith. first, what do you make about these ties? clearly cox knows shirvell pretty well, going back to 2002.
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his campaign was paying money. >> every attorney general's office where the attorney general is elected there's kind of an inner circle of people who are political allies of the attorney general. there's nothing wrong with that. that's just -- you have to get -- >> so attorney general's offices are very political. >> they're political. you don't get to be attorney general in most states unless you are elected. but if you are part of that inner circle, you are a political ally. there are a lot of people in the attorney general's office who are civil service employees who are not particularly political. >> cox says i have 500 employees. >> exactly. and he's right. most of those are not political allies. they stay there through administrations. but clearly shirvell is a political ally. he is a campaign worker. and that puts him not legally but factually in a very different category than the run-of-the-mill assistant attorney general. >> representative wheeler smith you've had run-ins with andrew shirvell over the years, what is he like? what have your encounters been
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like? >> well, the encounters have been hostile. they have been rather intimidating, if i were a regular individual i think i would have been very nervous about them. but i'm a politician and i'm used to running across people who disagree with me. so i certainly reached that point with andrew shirvell. but on a couple of occasions, he just got very aggressive in pursuing people that were associated with me. i had been asked to be on the board of bank here in ann arbor and i was challenged in that position, or the president of the bank was challenged because he appointed me to the board because i was pro-choice. >> so shirvell contacted the president of the bank? >> yes. contacted the president of the bank, challenged him for putting me on the board because the president of the bank was a catholic and he said, she's
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pro-choice and you really shouldn't be having anyone on your board who is pro-choice. to his credit, the bank president said that's none of your business and i have her on the board because she is a smart head and i'm going to keep her. >> jeffrey, let me ask you, what does -- so he's on leave now, he's going to face a disciplinary hearing when he comes back. why do you think now this has happened? what's going on? >> because mike cox is feeling the heat. this has now become a national story. you had arne duncan, the secretary of education today talking about how dangerous it is when people are intimidated because of their sexuality. this is something that is just so obviously offensive, so wrong, this conduct, that even though mike cox has defended him in the past and raised frankly what i think are phony first amendment arguments in defense of shirvell, it's just become politically untenable to keep him around.
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and so they announced that he's leaving voluntarily. but the point is he's out, at least temporarily. >> representative wheeler smith, what do you think should happen in this case? you obviously believe, what, he should lose his job? >> well, i certainly think he should be dismissed. he uses his presence in the attorney general's office as a bullying tactic. a student at michigan state university was in acounterpeck et to one of the demonstrations shirvell was attending, and there was a clash of opinions, and andrew used his position as attorney general, deputy attorney general with the university, michigan state university in this case, to get the student dismissed from a course. i think he is beyond the pale, if you will. he should be dismissed from the attorney general's office. he's using the power of that office, he's using the representation of the office in
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his encounters in order to intimidate and win favor and points for his cause. >> it's interesting, this has become now involved in politics in michigan the -- there's people now campaigning to be the new attorney general because mike cox is leaving in a few months, the democratic candidate says he should be not only let go but that the republican candidate should also call upon the attorney general. do -- what would happen, when mike cox leaves as attorney general, what happens to those political appointee people? if andrew shirvell had his job at that point, what would happen? >> he's a civil service employee and subject to the rule you just read. so if the new attorney general said this is conduct unbecoming, he could fire him. the first amendment does not protect all words. you know, if i say to you, give me $1 million or i'll kill you, that's extortion. if someone says to a subordinate, sleep with me, that's sexual harassment.
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>> that's not free speech. >> none of those things are free speech. just as this kind of conduct targeted at a -- an undergraduate at the university of michigan is not simply free speech. just because it's words doesn't mean you get a free ride, period. >> we'll continue to follow it. jeff toobin, thanks. alma wheeler smith, appreciate your time. thank you. let us know what you think at home. join the live chat now. and charges the republican candidate in california knowingly employed an illegal immigrant. we'll bring you the facts. and later a heart breaking picture of a horror story in progress. a wife, a mom, desperately pulling money out of the bank to the men holding her family captive. she would die soon after these images were taken, her daughters died as well. today, closing arguments in the trial. we'll tell you what went on inside that courtroom. sure i'd like to diversify my workforce,
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the charges and countercharges in the race to be california's next governor, the charges are the republican candidate meg whitman employed an illegal immigrant as a housekeeper. ms. whitman says the controversy is being oh, stratded by her opponent, jerry brown. today the former house speaker spoke with her attorney gloria allred. >> until she decided to run for governor in 2009 it appears ms. whitman had no problem or concern about employing an undocumented worker. apparently she knew employing an undocumented worker while running for a high-profile public office was a potential liability. >> i was shocked and hurt that ms. whitman would treat me this way after nine years.
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i realized at that moment that she didn't appreciate my work. i felt like she would throw me away like a piece of garbage. >> that's the back drop. tom foreman has been fact checking both side's claims. >> you know, gloria allred clearly intended to drop a bombshell on meg whitman with all of this. her claim as you said is that whitman knowingly employed an illegal immigrant named nicky diaz, exploited her, denied her wages and finally fired her and kept voters in the dark about all of this. whitman says, no. listen. >> attempt to deceive the public and hide the fact that she knew that she was employing an undocumented worker long before she fired nicky in 2009 has failed. meg whitman is exposed as a liar and a hypocrite.
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>> make no mistake, these allegations are completely untrue. they lack any merit whatsoever. this is truly a political smear on me, on my family and based on lies. >> tom, what's the truth here? >> well, we know nicky was whitman's housekeeper. we know she provided whitman with social security card, a driver's license and an official federal form that she appears to have signed herself swearing that she's here legally, even put a smiley face on the whole thing. so the simple truth is that the immigration officials say by law that's all that whitman had to check out. she didn't have to follow up on any of that. it appears social security sent a letter to ms. whitman also and her husband saying there might have been a problem with the woman's social security number. ms. allred says that letter is proof that they were told she was here illegally, but immigration and social security officials said no, lots of these
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letters go out for lots of reasons. it's not even necessarily a red flag. that's what they told me when i called today. and the candidate has said when she found out about the illegal status she did fire her, which under law she would have to do, and she's even said she'll take a lie detector test about all of this, anderson. >> so what don't we know? >> what we don't know is these accusations that ms. whitman somehow misused nicky, we have no proof of that. ms. whitman's claim that her opponent jerry brown orchestrated this attack, no proof of that, either, although ms. allred is an avid supporter of mr. brown. she said she's had no contact with his campaign in all of this. >> also gloria allred has launched a similar claim late in a political race before, didn't she? >> yeah. just before republican arnold schwarzenegger won the governor's office, ms. allred went to the media with a woman who claimed he fondled her and took lewd picture of her on a movie set.
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that case came to nothing, but listen how she reacted when pressed about that on an l.a. radio show. >> you did this to arnold in august of 2003 for rhonda miller. did rhonda ever win a judgment against arnold, making allegations against a gubernatorial candidate? >> i made allegations, that's true. >> did rhonda win a judgment? >> rhonda did not proceed with her case through litigation. >> is that a no? >> she decided not to go -- the case was litigated, and the case basically ended up being dismissed. she decided not to appeal. >> so -- oh, it was dismissed. >> wait a minute. she decided not to appeal. from the dismissal, which she had every right to do. >> we cut that down to give you just the esance of it, but what she kept saying she wants to get the facts out in this new case she showed no real interest on being cross examined on them. in the end, she hung up on hugh hue et, the talk show host there.
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so our claims against ms. whitman in this case appear to be a very tall tale. >> indeed. tom, thanks for that. still ahead, just the story that shocked the nation, the connecticut home invasion and murder trial, it is now headed to the jury. the man accused of murdering jennifer hawke-petit and her two daughters along with an alleged accomplice could get the death penalty. did the prosecutors present a strong enough case? and a wild chase in indiana, we'll show you how it all ended. 0 are still talking about retirement tdd# 1-800-345-2550 like it's some kind of dream. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's either this magic number i'm supposed to reach, or... tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's beach homes or it's starting a vineyard. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 come on! tdd# 1-800-345-2550 just help me figure it out in a practical, tdd# 1-800-345-2550 let's-make-this-happen kind of way. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 a vineyard? give me a break. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 [ male announcer ] looking for real-life answers tdd# 1-800-345-2550 to your retirement questions? tdd# 1-800-345-2550 get real. get started. talk to chuck. tdd# 1-800-345-2550
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including seven in north carolina, which has suffered the worst flooding with many areas submerged. many people there had to be rescued by boat. the town of windsor is said to be condition with six feet deep water. and officials may reach the 33 trapped minors in chile in november, drills are cutting ever closer to those miners who have been stuck in that mine since august 5th. no luck so far in the search for two american balloonists lost off the coast of italy two days ago. they were competitors in an international balloon race and organizers say it looks like the balloon made a rapid decent into the adriatic sea during rough weather. and a guy on a motorcycle tried to outrun indiana police yesterday bobbing in and out of traffic during a high-speed chase that stretched across three counties. in the end he ditched the bike
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and apparently tried to run away. as you can see there, he just didn't get very far at all. >> it's so stupid. everyone gets caught in the end. i don't know why people try to do this. >> i don't know. it's amazing. you likely heard about the suicide of rutgers university student tyler clementi. he took his life after a video of him having a sexual encounter with another man was secretly broadcast by his roommate. the president of rutgers today pledged to meet with the school's gay community to explore how he can, quote, better support their needs. that pledge comes a day after tyler's body was pulled from the hudson river. next week we'll look at bullying, why it's happening, and what all of us can do to stop it. we'll hear from experts from educators and kid who's live with the painful taunts and attacks every day. i came out of the closet as gay in eighth grade. a kid had a knife on school premises and said, i'm going to
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kill him. i want that faggot dead. >> i've been verbally abused because of my religion. i'm a muslim girl. >> i didn't see him coming. he came out of nowhere and hit me. >> bullying, it follows kids home, online, on their cell phones, nowhere to hide. >> people can just post things anonymously. it's for bully that's are afraid to say it to your face. >> you're fat, you should just kill yourself. we don't need you in our school. the world would go on without you. >> reporter: other kids, bystanders scared into silence. is there a fear talking to teachers or the principal? >> yes. >> yeah. >> reporter: how so? >> you could just get called a snitch. >> reporter: it can make it worse? >> yeah. >> reporter: as for the victims, a long day at school or back at home. >> you just think, i have to go face them again. i have to spend another eight hours in that prison. and no matter what you do, you
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during the trial police testified that hayes drove her to a bank and demanded she withdraw $15,000 while his alleged accomplice stayed back at the householding her family hostage. she hoped the money would buy their freedom. it was not to be. hayes could face the death penalty in a minute. in a moment we'll talk to jeff toobin and sunny hostin about what happened in court today. but first randi kaye looks at the crime. >> reporter: a quiet house became a house of terror and horror. that's how the prosecutor described it in today's closing arguments against steven hayes. he is accused of raping and strangling jennifer hawke-petit. police say he and accomplice joshua komisarjevsky broke into the family home in 2007. komisarjevsky, they say, sexually assaulted 11-year-old michaela petit and then left her and her sister haley to die in a
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fire they allegedly set. only dr. william petit escaped, though he was brutally beaten. in court today the prosecutor said it all began on a classic july summer day. the petit family went to church. dr. petit played golf and picked up corn to have with dinner on his way home. his wife and daughters went to the super market. the defense closed by suggesting it was komisarjevsky who goes on trial later, not steven hayes, who is to blame. hayes' defense attorney admitted, quote, he's guilty of sexual assault of mrs. petit. there isn't any question about it. but he added he kills jennifer petit at the request of joshua komisarjevsky. the defense told the jury hayes is no angel but said it was komisarjevsky who controlled the situation and that things just got out of control. the prosecution fired back saying he said things got out of control. it wasn't things, it was them. they were out of control. this is the moment jurors may
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never forget. that's mrs. hawke-petit at her bank, 9:17 a.m. surveillance video shows her desperate attempt to save her family. withdrawing $15,000 from her bank. she hoped that money would be enough to convince the two suspects to spare her family's lives. at the bank she reaches out for help but has to be discrete because steven hayes was allegedly outside. the bank manager quietly calls 911. >> we have a lady who is in our bank right now who says that her husband and children are being held at their house. the people are in a car outside the bank. she is getting $15,000, that if the police are told they will kill her children and the husband. she is petrified. >> reporter: minutes later, she leaves the bank with the ransom money and within hours she is murdered. during the trial, the details of
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the attack and the sheer bree tallty of it brought jurors to tears. they were forced to look at pictures of the victims' burned bodies and hear how the girls were allegedly tied to their beds before bleach and gasoline were poured over them. husband and father william petit sat through all of it, stoic at times, crying during others. he would leave the room when the evidence was too graphic for him to bear. but mostly he gripped the courtroom ban isster. they are being tried separately, but prosecutors say they are both equally guilty, that they acted together to rape, rob and kill. randi kaye, cnn, miami. unbelievable. digging deeper now, jeffrey toobin is back, and sunny hostin, also a former federal
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prosecutor. did the defense do everything they could to pawn responsibility on to the other co-defendant, away from hayes and portray the other guy as the ring leader. did it work? >> i don't think it worked. it certainly was their strategy throughout this trial and what they started with their closing was we have all been affected by this gruesome evidence. that is how the defense started their closing argument. but it was clear when you saw the reactions of the jury and two of the jurors were crying, there were reporters in the courtroom that were crying during the prosecution's rebuttal, it was pretty clear they may not have bought this argument that komisarjevsky was the ring leader and hayes was just sort of along for the ride and had no responsibility. i will say, though, that the defense did admit to jennifer hawke-petit's murder, they did admit to her sexual assault. they admitted the burglary, they admitted the arson. they did not concede that hayes
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was responsible for the deaths of the two girls. i think that was what they were most concerned about, because they died so horrifically. >> in capital cases it's common for the defense to plant seeds in this phase of a trial that they have an impact later on. did that happen? >> that's clearly been the strategy from day one. look, they're saying we don't want to convince 12 people that he's not guilty, we want to persuade one person that he doesn't deserve the death penalty. that's all it takes. and frankly, i think that's all the defense could do here. in the end, the defense -- the evidence is far too overwhelming to contest whether he was in fact guilty. and, you know, when you are conceding rape and murder just for starters, i mean, gives you an idea how bad this crime is and how bad the case is. i don't know how the jury will react. remember, this is connecticut, not a state that has many death penalty cases. you don't have patterns for
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knowing what jurors react to in death penalty cases and not, but the jurors -- one thing prosecutors always can say in a case like this is, if not the death penalty for this case, then for what? >> sunny, we've seen the pictures of this guy buying, i guess it was hayes, buying gasoline before they even did this job. you know, did the robbery that then turned into the murder. that seems to show premeditation to at least want to burn down the house, which seems to indicate they maybe were planning to kill these people. >> well, certainly, and i think that's been the question all along. did he have the intent to kill? because in his statement to the detective that interviewed him right afterwards, he said i was just in this for the money. the plan changed. things got out of control. but the fact that he was caught as we're showing on tape buying gasoline and he also admitted to pouring gasoline on the staircase which was the only exit for the petit girls, i think it's very difficult to believe that he was just in it for the money and had no intent to kill them. it just really doesn't make
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sense. and i'm sure this is something that the jury is going to have to grapple with. but bottom line is, does it make sense? >> the rape also hurts him on the just in it for the money defense. >> right. there was also accelerant used around the bed of the girls. >> right. that's what they were contesting at summation today. it's not very -- it's sort of not very credible to think he poured the gasoline on the stairs but not by the girls, but that's the defense. >> right. sunny, how long do you think it would take for a jury to come back with a verdict? >> it's interesting, it's something we've been talking about sort of behind the scenes, how long is this going to take. i don't know what jeff thinks, but i would say this case is going to the jury midafternoon monday and i think we'll have a verdict by monday. one thing that i did notice in the courtroom and i've tried, you know, sex crime cases, juries usually don't want to look at the defendant was it's hard to pass judgment on a person. this jury looked at pictures and glared at this defendant.
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they were certainly ready to pass judgment on this defendant. so i think we'll have a verdict by monday. >> i don't know what it will be but i know what the verdict will be. i think this trial will really begin in the penalty phase. >> how long until we find out about whether or not it's a death penalty? >> well, they usually move right into the penalty phase, if not that day. >> so they're not going to wait for the trial of another guy. >> no, no, no, same trial. >> appreciate it. it's a tough case to cover, appreciate you talking to us about it. still ahead, the california couple accused of holding jaycee dugard captive, they faced the judge and charges against them. and giant waves and the surfers who dare to ride them. we talked to a prosurfer about what it's like riding 100-foot waves. >> you've got to feel extraordinarily alive in that moment. >> absolutely. nothing like it. if you suffer from heartburn two or more days a week,
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even existed but now author susan casey has written the book "the wave" a book that reveals the monstrous waves and the surfers who search the world for them to ride them. he's towed on to them, and i sat down for the interview. >> when you started surfing, what was the biggest wave that people thought you could -- that one could surf? >> you know, probably in the 20 to 25-foot range which would mean the front would be 30 or 40 feet which had be the biggest waves anyone had ridden and was the limit of your capability. >> what's your biggest wave now? >> eight to ten storys? >> how many feet is that? >> i always have a hard time saying it but i know wave that's were like 100 feet. i could say 100 feet, maybe
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less, but at that point it doesn't really matter, it's giant. >> what is it -- it's eight to ten stories, but it's moving and, i mean, explain what that really means, eight to ten stories. >> well, it is, it's an apartment building that's moving. when they get above 60 feet they start to do something different. they get more vertical and they actually advance as a vertical wall. with feathering happening before all the energy can gather itself up in order to break, is that land, is that the moon doing something, and in fact it's, you know, there's a moment of recognition where it's like, oh, no, that's a wave. >> when you're riding that, you obviously don't -- do you have a sense of how big -- >> you don't -- >> you don't look back, do you? >> if you have the time to look back then you're in a really luxurious position at that point. but, yeah, no, normally you can feel it. >> you feel it. >> you feel it. you know where it is. >> you must hear it. >> hear, it but it's one of the few things you're actually able
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to do where you're looking ahead to see what's behind you and you can know what the water is doing in front of you, and that will tell you what the wave is doing behind you. >> you've got to feel extraordinarily alive in that moment. >> absolutely. nothing like it. >> right. >> i mean, it's -- >> every molecule has got to be sort of trained. >> everything's turned on, your hearing is as good as it ever is going to be, your vision is as strong as it's ever going to be. your decisionmaking is as acute as it's ever going to be, and you really are -- you have no exterior, you know, cluster. there's no, there's nothing coming in. you're not thinking, i've got to be somewhere. >> i've got to take the garbage out, nothing. >> no taxes, nothing. zero. you've got one thing which is to make it, and when you ever get in a position where you feel like you're not, you know right away and you're like, okay, here we go. >> you know you're going to fall. >> yeah. >> i think what a lot of people don't realize is in some of these places, tahiti and other
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places, if you fall off an eight to ten-story wave, you're hitting coral in many cases. >> absolutely. of course live coral bottoms in places where you're surfing, barrier reefs. >> the coral is only a few feet from maybe the surface of the water. >> sometimes, it can be as shallow as six to eight feet. could be even shallower depending on the wave and the position. i mean, we have other issues on deeper water wades where it's breaking in 50 or 60 feet of water, where to 80 you have the issue of hitting the bottom. in another place in hawaii like king's reef or jaws you have the issue of being held down. >> jaws is a big wave in hawaii. >> right of the notion of being like pinned under water on a 60-foot wave with your head coming up against a cave, it just was so terrifying that i wanted to see it. so we swam out and looked around and there were these crevices and like little gullies and overhangs and you could easily see how a body would just get pinned in there. >> are you scared, though? >> yeah. you want to be scared f you're not scared you're not assessing what's happening.
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>> so fear is a good thing. >> absolutely. it's a fair assessment of what's occurring. if you're out and it's 80 feet or 60 feet and you're being held down, you want to be scared. i mean, that's only good math. you know? >> i read in the book you say, if i scare myself once every day i'm a better person, it helps to have that jolt of perspective that life is fragile. >> absolutely. critical. that's really the truth of how it s our existence is -- you know, dying is easy. it happens in two seconds. living is a tricky game. so to think it's not ever present to be in denial of death's presence is like -- is not a fair assessment of living. >> are there more big waves than there used to be? is something changing in the ocean? >> this is one of the main questions i set out to answer. i asked every scientist i came into contact with this exact question. and to a person they said yes there. were varying degrees of how they said it. occasionally they would say,
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yes, because they're scientists and climate change is such a complicated and, you know, big thing. and we don't fully understand it. but the things they do know are that the sea levels are rising which of course means, you know, higher water, and that there is -- the extremes are getting more extremes. >> what do the giant waves tell us? >> i think that nature is a lot more powerful than we are. insofar as we want to live next to the ocean and 60% of the global population lives within 30 miles of a coastline, we need to spend more time understanding it. >> the ocean is really not well known. >> not at all. >> it's our life support system. that's what people don't realize. it's our life support system for our planet. >> the book is "the wave." it's really cool and larry hamilton is an incredible, incredible surfer. an apology for an unthinkable experiment, intentionally infecting people with sexually transmitted
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and ask your doctor about reclast. or call 1-866-51-reclast. year-long protection for on-the-go women. all right, so a headline caught my eye today. once you see it you can guess why. take a look, the headline says anderson cooper and one arrested for an internet scam. i was worried when i read this, but i realized i wasn't arrested. but two men were arrested in the philippines today, a filipino businesswoman got an e-mail from anderson cooper, was waiting in the airport with $1 million,
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which makes no sense either. she was told she'd have to pay $500 to get the suitcase with $10 million out of customs. so she met with anderson cooper, who's this guy, and he is from africa, that didn't raise suspicion with her either, she later realized her mistake, and the police nabbed the man playing me. the quote in the article, one of the law enforcement officers, let's put it on the screen. yeah. i don't know what it says. i don't read that, but it was kind of funny. there's another page to it. oh, that's the whole quote. all right. no idea what it means but i like the looks of it. anyway, so if you get an e-mail saying i've arrived in your town with a suitcase full of $10 million, probably not true. i'm not oprah. following several other important stories tonight, joe johns is back with the 360 news and business bulletin.
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>> that's inkrepdible anderson. new charges today in the jaycee dugard kidnapping case. phillip and nancy garrido, the california couple accused of holding dugard captive for decades face kidnapping and rape charges. they've previously pled not guilty to 29 felony counts. and president obama offered his profound apology to the president of guatemala for a study that infected hundreds in that country with sexually transmitted diseases. the 1940s experiments were similar to those conducted in tuskegee, alabama, some 40 years ago. president obama today announced rahm emanuel has stepped down as white house chief of staff. the president praised emanuel for his, quote, unmatched level of energy and enthusiasm. emanuel, who is expected to run for mayor of chicago, has been temporarily replaced by his deputy, pete rouse.
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remember in may when the stock market took a sudden nose dive and no one knew why? federal regulators say it was sparked by a large investor using automatic trading software to sell futures contracts. the name of the investor was not released. and how's this for a mixup? football star chad ochocinco is being recalled after a phone number on the boxes is a sex line. it should have been for a children's charity. ochocinco has apologized. as for the sex line, it has been disconnected. that is incredible. how do you mess that up? >> that is some mistake. so, joe, i've got to admit. i'm not a fan of people trying to be funny on airplanes or pilots talking when people want to sleep. i don't tell the pilots my troubles at work, i'd rather they not accident plain the route in excruciating detail.
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but this video shows flight attend and thes who just wanted to dance. >> when outside the aircraft, manual inflation tubes are on both sides. push and release air. it will illuminate once the tab is immersed in water. please be reminded that an -- ♪ just dance >> we found this video on youtube, i've got to say this is the point where i would have demanded to get off the airplane. it was shot aboard a flight on a philippine carrier. the flight attend ants dancing and later getting a round of applause. >> somebody's got to file a complaint, they're having too much fun.
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