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world headquarters, the big stories for tuesday, october 5th. a white house summit on community colleges today. realigning curriculums to make degrees fit today's jobs. an old-fashioned way of trading workers on the come back, apprenticeships. the new face of blue collar america. >> it's very technologically advanced these days. and you are required to use your mind a lot more than just your hands. >> and the office walls are coming down. an app keeps business mnomads connected, you need a laptop and a phone. right here, right now in the cnn "newsroom." and we begin with breaking news out of new york. the man who admitted trying to blow up times square earlier this year is headed to prison for the rest of his life. our deborah feyerick was in the courtroom for the sentencing of faisal shahzad, and deb, good to see you. how did this play out in court this morning? >> well, it was very interesting. you would have expected somebody

to be quite almost subdued in front of the judge. but faisal shahzad, the would-be times square bomber was very defia defiant, giving a political statement for about five minutes, even interrupting the judge during the sentencing. he said during his statement, "brace yourself, the war with muslims has just begun." he then said the past nine years has achieved nothing for the u.s., we are only muslims defending our people and our land. if that means we are terrorists, we will terrorize you. so really almost threatening as to what was to come. as the judge read out his sentence, he said "i'm happy with the deal god has given me." she gave him the maximum time to which he pleaded guilty. he will be serving life in prison. the judge said the defendant had repeatedly failed to show any remor remorse. that when he swore to defend americans when he became a naturalized citizen just a year ago, his real intent was to kill americans. and she said the sentence that she was giving him was also to act as a deterrence to anyone

who would try to do what he had done. so he was going to prison, again, for trying to detonate that bomb in the middle of times square, hoping to kill as many people as he can. but he continued to point to the sky and say "god is great" in arabic. the judge said he would have plenty of time to think about the koran when he was serving time in prison. tony? >> all right, deborah feyerick for us, appreciate t thank you. the road to economic recovery may go through your nearby community college. in president obama's view, at least, he is convinced these schools are key to better preparing workers for jobs. the president is about to address the first white house summit on community colleges. cnn senior white house correspondent ed henry is there. and ed, let's start with this. what are the goals for this summit today? >> well, the president is talking about the fact that when you look at this new certify have a out, for example, from sally may just today suggesting a lot of people, because of the recession are cutting back on what they're saving on higher

education for their kids, number one, and maybe they're steering more of their kids toward two-year colleges, if they can't afford four-year colleges. and the president has been on the stump talking a lot about how, you know, you've got a lot of companies in the private sector basically saying that they need highly skilled, highly trained workers to compete in the global economy. and not all of those workers may go through four years, but they'll accept two-year degrees instead of high school graduates. the presidencies all of this coming together in a new initiative where he basically is trying to get companies in partnerships with these community colleges, trying to match them up for jobs in this uncertain economy. also talking about training programs, incentives, to get some of these folks to community colleges, and then on to find jobs. >> and all of it is a goal the president will be laying out today with dr. jill biden, the vice president's wife, who teaches at a community college in northern virginia. all aimed at the goal of getting

5 million more community college graduates between now and 2020. here's how the president puts it. >> the idea here is simple. we want to make it easier to connect students looking for jobs with businesses looking to hire. we want to help community colleges and employers create programs that match curricula in the classroom with the needs of the board rooms. >> now, it certainly sounds good, but there are companies out there who, you know, competing institutions, et cetera, like kaplan, the university of phoenix, who are saying they think this white house is tilting too much towards community colleges, that more of the federal aid is going in that direction, instead of the for-profit colleges, especially the four-year colleges. and that specifically they think it's not a level playing field in that the president is sort of giving a rosy scenario about what these community colleges produce, and that not all of the students coming out of them are going to be these highly trained workers. so there is a battle joined over

this. but i think you can see from the argument the president is making, he thinks in this uncertain economy, the more people he can get going to college, whether it's two-year or four-year, the better, tony. >> okay. our senior white house correspond ed henry for us. good to see you. thank you, sir. we looked at community college partnerships with private industry back in april when we met bryant bishop. he was enrolled in classes at a technical college in greenville, south carolina, while getting on-the-job training on the factory floor. brett bishop's workday starts at 11:00 at night. while most of us are getting ready for bed, he is running around on a factory floor, serving an apprenticeship at a plant operated by a boesch r rexroth, a manufacturer of components and tools. >> i've got a change coming up. >> during the day -- >> what you'll see is a metal recover. >> he attends classes, pursuing a degree in machine tool technology.

it is a 14-hour day, but he has got to do it to learn a new profession. two years ago, this father of two and his wife were running their own restaurant. then the recession hit, and they went from being entrepreneurs to unemployed. >> we really just kind of had to close the doors to avoid getting in deeper than we wanted to in debt. >> but don't feel too sorry for brent bishop. he'll soon graduate from his long days with new skills and a new job, all paid for, even the schooling, by his employer. it is part of a registered apprenticeship program dating back to the 1930s administered by the u.s. department of labor. apprenticeships are as ancient as medieval times. a baker passing on the craft to his young worker. a master shoemaker sharing the tricks of his trade, knowledge passed on to the next generation. today, the department of labor says apprentices work for more than 6,000 u.s. manufacturing companies. earning a modest wage while being trained for higher paying

jobs. >> the kind of manufacturing you're looking at today is not your granddad's manufacturing, it's a lot more complex. >> brent's employer says investing in the apprenticeship program benefits the company as much as the worker. in the end, all sides win. south carolina wins, because we're developing high-paying skilled jobs right here at home. we're paying the training cost. the associate, obviously, wins, because through this career and training they're now advancing to a higher pay. >> it can take months, really, to find the right personnel. so you're not agile enough if you don't have a program like this. >> these apprenticeship jobs are highly competitive. to land one, a worker has to take tests measuring aptitude for mathematics, machining, teamwork and communication skills. at the south carolina plant, rexroth has only a dozen apprentices out of a staff of hundreds. >> you need to have a strong head for math, with the blueprint readings and the

different changes to programming. >> charles wilson is on the u.s. labor secretary's advisory committee for apprentices. he started the apprenticeship program at greenville tech after watching south carolina's signature industry, textiles, collapse. sending many manufacturing jobs overseas. >> when i saw people who had worked in textiles all their life, losing their jobs, i couldn't sleep some nights. i said, what can one person do to help? >> brabt realizes how lucky he is to have gotten one of the coveted apprenticeships, especially considering south carolina's 11% unemployment rate, one of the highest in the country. >> tremendous amount of people out of work at the moment, and i know that the competition is high for pretty much any job in the field right now. >> so there you go. an example of how private companies can work with technical and community colleges. got to tell you, since we first brought you that story, brandt bishop is graduated, working full time for boesch rexroth. the company since enrolled seven more students in its

apprenticeship program. sex, drugs, the judge and the stripper. the fbi says his honor lost his honor, and meteorologist rob marciano has to follow that tease. good morning. >> whatever happened to rock and roll, doesn't that come third? good morning, everybody, yes, i'm rob marciano, the cnn severe weather center. we'll talk about weather on both sides of the continent. the cnn "newsroom" is coming right back. me this great idea. yea? we mail documents all over the country, so, what if there were priority mail flat rate... envelopes? yes! you could ship to any state... for a low flat rate? yes! a really low flat rate. like $4.90? yes! and it could look like a flat rate box... only flatter? like this? you...me...genius. genius. priority mail flat rate envelopes. just $4.90. only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. this chicken tortilla soup has such a wonderful zesty quality. that's the chipotle and cilantro. it's one of our new mexican soups.

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i've got to tell you this one, a scandal sweeps up a federal -- actually, a veteran federal judge in the south, senior judge for the northern district of georgia. his name is jack camp jr., out on bail this morning. he is facing drugs and weapons charges. an fbi affidavit says camp bought cocaine, marijuana and pain killers for himself and a stripper. court documents say the judge paid the woman for sex. president reagan put camp on the bench in 1987. in alabama, the allegations are bribery, vote buying and money laundering. four state senators and two businessmen are among 11 people named in a federal indictment. of prosecutors say the businessmen offered big money if

lawmakers voted in favor of a bingo gambling bill. listen to an attorney for one of the businessmen. >> he was arrested this morning at his home where he has been living for years. he has lived in this community, and this area, for 71 years. he's never even been convicted of jaywalking. is this the way to treat a 71-year-old grandfather? i would think not. >> all 11 defendants are free on bail today. they're due back in court october 15th. a leaning electrical tower hit by a tow vessel has brought a port positive a stand still. the cost could top $11 billion. ed lavandera brings us the latest. >> reporter: a 300 foot tall electrical tower is being held up by a crane in the port of houston ship channel. a towing vessel pushing three massive barges crashed into the tower. the power lines are drooping too low, and it's brought the nation's secretary largest port

to a virtual stand still. >> situation is unstable right now. the lines are sagging. and we cannot allow any vessels to pass underneath with the unstable situation and the chance of the lines falling in the water. >> reporter: it's a fender-bender that's caused white the traffic jam. nearly three dozen ships can't get in or out of the houston port right now. about 100 port terminals and four oil refineries are affected by the shutdown. and every day officials say the port of houston does about $320 million worth of business. this crash could leave $1 billion dent in the local economy. the electricity has been turned off, but officials are focused now on getting the power lines removed, and the leaning tower off the water with a crane called big john. >> once a big john hooks up and takes the load on the tower, then center point energy can get up there, disconnect the lines, reel them in i and we can pick the tower up and get the ship channel open. >> we had 12 people on boirt.

>> the boat traffic must be frustrating to those boeing e doing business, but every year, the houston yacht club organizes a cruise near downtown houston. this was their weekend, and they've got nowhere to go. >> actually, some of us are kind of happy because we don't have to go to work tomorrow, but don't tell our bosses that. >> did you call your boss? >> not yet, i'm hoping he sees this and knows what's going on and i'm off the hook. >> the u.s. coast guard says it hopes the lines will be removed, and it will take several days to get the port traffic back to normal. ed lavandera, cnn, dallas. doctors may have unlocked a secret to help some patients with a deadliest form of brain cancer. a vaccine for cancer.

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thanks. do you work here? not yet. from tax info to debunking myths, the field guide to evolving your workforce has everything you need. download it now at thinkbeyondthelabel.com. new hope for some patients with the most deadly form of brain cancer. the results of a promising new study are in. our dr. sanjay gupta has been tracking this clinical trial for months. >> i can tell you, tony, this is potentially some very good news regarding this study about one of the deadliest forms of cancer we know, and certainly the deadliest form of brain cancer. it's called blioblastoma or gbm, it's the same tumor that affected senator ted kennedy. this is the type of tumor when you're diagnosed you get the awful news that your average survival is around 14 months.

imagine that. so people have been waiting for same to try and make some movement in the numbers to try and increase survival. which is why we're telling you about this study today. it is an early study, only 18 patients were studied, but the results were so promising, looking specifically at glioblastoma, what happened in the study they found that the cells have a particular protein on the cell surface that is unique to this cancer. and is not present in any other normal cell in the body. why is that important? because it turns that protein into a target. and if you can create a good smart bomb, you can attack that cancer, and that cancer only. that's exactly what's happening here in these patients. they're teaching the body to attack this particular protein, and attack it sort of like a smart bomb. and they're starting to see some incredible results. again, 14 months average survival. with this particular treatment, survival is closer to two years, which may not sound like a lot, but it's almost double. and there's some patients who

have been living up to five years with this particular therapy. again, early studies, they're hoping that more studies will prove the same point, and this will become more widely available. and tony, it might also be something that's available for other cancers down the road, as well. immuno therapy. think about that when you're thinking about cancer, and we'll keep you posted on details as they come to us. tony? >> amazing news. sanjay, appreciate it, thank you. hope surging today for chile's trapped miners. there is one prediction they could be out in a matter of days.

all right. let do this. let's get you caught up on top stories. chile's miners trapped two months ago today may be rescued

this weekend. remember we thought they wouldn't be out until christmas? well the bbc is quoting the head of one drilling operation saying the drillers are only 500 feet from the men. the. authorities still serving for the body of american david hartley today. he and his wife were ambushed while jet skiing on a lake straddling the u.s. and mexican border. she escaped, but he was apparently shot in the head. authorities linked the attack to drug cartels. in fresno, california, police found 8-year-old elisa ca card cardenas safe. the suspect is still on the loose. f@@

let's see here, a storming monday has left a lot to clean up today. look at this mess. lake mead in nevada. all of the rain sent mud sliding down the hills and right on to a marina. there we go. let's look at that picture there. docks, boats, just covered in it. rob, that's a real mess. so that's nevada. and then -- oh, you've got it? >> yeah, where they had the mess yesterday. >> yeah. >> they've got a bit of a mess today. and things are starting even earlier. so not what these folks need, adding insult to injury. but right now, mead and surrounding areas are okay, out toward phoenix and southern parts of utah is where this moisture is rotating around this low. which isn't making very much

progress to the east. and we'll talk about another low that's doing the same thing. and the other interesting thing about this is we have seen some white on the radar. and at one point, some of the mr. president passes here, the higher elevations above 8,000 feet were temporarily shut down yesterday. we may see that again today, anywhere from 6 to 10 inches of snow. that's right. we are switching gears here. >> wow. >> as far as the -- and, you know, while that's all happening, check out these numbers from montana yesterday. 90 degrees in montana. that's toasty. belgrade, 90 degrees, and some of these numbers are the warmest it's ever been in montana in october. so wacky right now. this low is not moving either. on the east coast. and this is rotating moisture from the atlantic out as far west as almost chicago, certainly towards detroit. and this will be with us for another day, maybe day-and-a-half, and then we'll slowly start to see this thing make its way off towards the north and east. think i'm going to show you some record lows.

this is from this morning. record highses, record lows, yeah. bartzville, oklahoma, 35. mississippi, 35. 35 in mississippi? all right. you know the times are changing. meanwhile, we also have this tropical -- what may be our next tropical depression here, hurricane center has an eye on it. right now, tony, we're fairly well protected as far as winds that would steer this away from the u.s. so at this point, we're not terribly concerned about it, but our friends in puerto rico, bahamas are concerned. and things can change. so we watch that closely. >> terrific. rob, great day for you. thank you, sir. getting answers on bullying. >> when you were calling people names, did it make you feel better? >> it's not that it made me feel better. it's that i knew they felt worse. >> yeah, our carol costello goes looking for solutions to this growing problem. issue with hurricane blows. no person or place was safe from the spray.

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>> yeah, i've got to tell you, many at the rally shared stories of emotional or physical torment. the rally was called a response to the death of rutgers' university freshman tyler clementi. he killed himself by jumping off a bridge after his sexual encounter was broadcast online. the pressing question is, how do you end bullying? our carol costello set out to find solutions. >> tony, it's a tough question. how do you stop bullying? is it as simple as a punch in the nose and the courtly bully will run away? experts say that's really not the solution. in fact, there are no simple solutions, but we're going to try. >> i am somebody. i can make a difference. >> at oklahoma city's western heights high school, students are pledging to protect the bullied. it's especially important to susan lay. she knows how bullying feels. >> is it worse with words, do you think? >> i think it is, because when i was little, like, people always

said i was really ugly. and it -- i never knew it affected me so much. and, like, people would ask if i was a boy or a girl. and i was hurt. i never wanted that to happen, and, like, it lowered my self esteem really bad. and i never wanted to go to school. >> so i see it hurts you. i see it hurts you so much. but you know you're beautiful, right? yes. >> it's the kind of pain that affects so many children. one in three kids are bullied or bully every year. so how do you stop it? >> we have to take it seriously. >> rachel simmons wrote "odd girl out. "she is an expert on bullying. >> the way an adult intervenes is just as important as the fact that they're intervening at all. >> a good first step, calm down. >> don't communicate with anyone, another child, or the

school, until you are calm and able to have a respectful conversation. because it's very easy to get marginalized as the crazy parent in a school. >> next, document how your child is being bullied. and then ask your child what he or she wants you to do. >> remember, you are not the one who has to walk back into that school for eight hours a day. and you may want to do solution a., but if you do that solution, your child may be mercilessesly retaliated against. >> she says bullies are popular, socially skilled kids who can enlist an army of bullies. marissa, who was also participating in veteran heights' anti bullying campaign, knows exactly what simmons is talking about. in junior high school, she was a bully. why? >> i don't really know if there was a reason. it was just that easy target, i guess. >> is it because other kids were making fun of those kids too? yeah, there was a lot of others also bullying.

>> so sort of like a mob mentality. >> yeah. >> when you were talling people names, did it make you feel better? >> it's not this it made me feel better. it's that i knew they felt worse. >> which brings us to how bullies ought to be stopped. don't humiliate them. >> if you humiliate a bully publicly, you are much more likely to see a retaliation. if you sit down with a child and say, this is what i'm seeing, it's not acceptable. i know you're capable of more. and if it happens again, these are the consequences. >> susan lay, marissa, certainly know the consequences. they're hoping to make this school year bully-free. the most important thing to do is listen to your child when he or she comes home from school. if the child says they haven't had a great day, ask the child why. really get into the reasons why. and then you can sit down with your child to determine whether that child is being bullied, and then you can come up with a plan together. tony?

>> oh, carol, appreciate it. thank you. got to tell you, people all over the country are sharing their bullying stories with us this week. and josh levs is giving that to us. >> some are heart-blenching, this is david goldthorp. he says as a father, he is learning this starts as early as kindergarten. his daughter has been coming home with stories about what's been happening to her classmates. >> one instance involved a good friend of hers having his pants pulled down by another student. and another student, a friend of hers, was pushed down a slide and then laughed at while he was on the ground crying. it shocked me when i was told these things happened already. at age 5. >> age 5. here's someone else. colin wynn of west palm beach, florida described his experiences with bullying as he has been growing up. >> in elementary school, they would call me chinese boy, and for some reason in middle school they would call me a terrorist.

>> how were you bullied physically? >> well, i was sitting on my bus in middle school, and they and they pushed me in my private area, and they were doing stuff on the bus and hit me on the head with a glass bottle and had gotten minor head trauma. >> he says he was confused and didn't even know who these kids were that were bullying him. here's something else. a group of students at a middle school got together and talked about how they have bullied other kids. >> everybody has bullied someone at some point in time, whether it's shoving someone into a locker or calling somebody a name. so, yes, i have bullied someone. >> all right. we have time for one more. this is something a little different here. jason diamond, one of our frequent i-reporters, points to the recent suicides of young gay students, and he says that he

once considered suicide, and there that he has a message for others out there having those thoughts. >> just went out and said the pain of me committing suicide would be so much worse than the, quote, what i thought the pain of me being gay would be. and i just want to share that message, that in my experience, my family was extremely accepting. >> now, we encourage you to share your thoughts, your stories, your videos, whatever you've got at ireport.com and i want you all to know we have links at my facebook page and twitter page, josh levs at cnn. i provided a list of websites there for resources for kids, teens and parents and also teaches you to look out for warning sides your kid might be bullied or your kid might be a bully. and is those pages have become conversation pages where a lot of people around the country are weighing in.

>> boy, we've got to get a handle on this. you know, josh, back in my day, yeah, part of the answer was you hit somebody in the mouth. you hit the bully in the mouth, and maybe you took a butt-whipping that first time, but you hit him in the mouth to send a message, and then there was a bit of a zero tolerance policy in schools. i just don't know where we are in the area of zero tolerance at schools. maybe cnn's carla zeus is going to be with us next hour from student news. >> we do know a lot of schools say that. but as we hear from our reporting and from people's stories, sometimes they say they don't know. sometimes you report something, and they say, well, was that really bullying, kids do tease each other. and sometimes it's just incredibly hard for them to get a handle on. unfortunately, a reality kids are facing. >> we've got to do it. all right. josh, appreciates it. anderson cooper takes a broughter look at bullying in our schools and now online. why do kids do it and what can be done to stop it? an "anderson cooper 360" special report tonight at 10:00 p. and all of the i reports we have

been running are available on cnn.com as well.

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"newsroom." a teenager has died and at least ten others were injured after a school bus crashed in georgia. georgia troopers say the driver was a trainee who suddenly lost control. and an instructor was on board teaching him when the accident happened. a shooting spree left two people dead and five wounded in gainesville, florida. police say the 24-year-old suspected shooter had a long criminal record and a history of mental problems. they say he also had a relationship with all of the victims. he died of a self-inflicted wound. four people, including two children have died in hungary after a reservoir broke and flooded three villages with a toxic sludge. the mud is a waste product of aluminum production. four weeks and counting to election day. we will tell you what the candidates are doing and saying on the campaign trail today. we're ban in a moment. you're in the cnn "newsroom." ♪

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pakistani intelligence confirms 5 of 11 suspected militants killed in a drone strike were german nationals. yesterday's strike was in north waziristan. a stronghold in both the taliban and al qaeda. it came hours after european intelligence said jihadists from germany were planning terror attacks in europe. a u.s. soldier who has accused some of business his buddies has been moved to solitary

confinement for his own safety. adam winfield is being held in washington on a murder charge. other members of his brigade face similar charges. here's what winfield told army investigators about his sergeant. >> i take that man very seriously. he is -- he likes to kill things. he is pretty much evilin incar national. i've never met a man going from one minute joking around and mindless killing the next. he likes to kill things. >> all five soldiers are charged with premeditated murder. several others face drug use. an update on a kidnapping of an 8-year-old. police found elisa cardenas this morning safe. a man drove up to a group of kids and promised them toys. police now have a suspect. a suspect is now in custody.

and time for the latest from the cnnpolitics.com desk. brianna keilor joins us from washington, d.c. brianna, good to see you, good morning. what's crossing right now? >> on the ticker right now, tony, former house speaker newt gingrich is giving some unsolicited advice to republican candidates less than a month before the elections. he says hammer democrats and make it about paychecks versus food stamps. he says unemployment is up, food stamp usage is up, and pound that for democrats. this is all in a memo being sent to several candidates. we'll break that down for you on the political ticker. and also at the cnn political ticker, find it at cnn politics.com, we'll take you to a battle ground race in colorado, congresswoman betsy marquis in a republican district, first-term democrat, and we'll take a look at what she is up against. and also her republican opponent, corey gardener. he is seen as the crept favorite

here. this is a race like so many we're seeing across the country that really could change the political landscape here in washington. take a look at what's trending right now on the ticker. you can get more online with us. senator demint. he has become a bit of a conservative king maker, south carolina republican. he is taking a lot of heat, tony, for some comments he made about gays and unwed mothers. he said on saturday that they should be banned from teaching, and his spokesman says this is a comment that he made. he was merely stating his belief that school boards should really control hiring, and demint has said that he is getting -- even though he doesn't necessarily have people coming out and publicly backing him. he says privately he has a lot of people who go up to him and say i believe in this position you have taken. it's something he took in 2004, which is basically just that gays and unwed mothers or women, single women who are in sexual relationships shouldn't be teaching in the classroom. as you can imagine, a gay

republican group, go proud, has some pretty strong words against this, and you can check those out on the political ticker on cnn politics.com. >> brianna, thank you. let's give that web address again, your next political update in an hour from now. and again for the latest political news, go to cnn itpolitics.com. we're back in a moment. of one financial company that grew stronger through the crisis. when some lost their way, this company led the way. by protecting clients and turning uncertainty into confidence. what if that story were true? it is. ♪

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second, you maybe wondering why we see triple digit gains here. stocks rise on japan's move to essentially slash interest rates to near zero. and there's some growth in the services sector there as well. but let's get you to the big board. 163 points. the nasdaq, you know it's going to be in positive territory. we're up 48 points. the recession officially over, but a new report show tas a lot of people really aren't feeling it yet. in fact, more and more american rs filing for bankruptcy these days. curt is on the floor of the new york stock exchange with the details. carter, does the bankruptcy still carry the stigma it once did? >> this is something we found really interesting. it really doesn't and in some case, people are almost advising bankruptcy for some people. in some cases, it's becoming a

viable business decision. it may be your only option and we're seeing a huge increase. i got a chart to show you the number of bankruptcies we're seeing. so far this year, 1.2 million have filed for bankruptcy. it's steady climbed since 2005. that's when the code was changed. it was meant to make filing for bankruptcy more difficult. there was a huge spike before that and now, you see it climbing again. it basically comes with a big price. >> talk about some of those reprecussions. it may make sense, but doesn't come cost free. >> it's going to cost you in terms of your credit score. your fico score. this is not something that's going to go away.

there are several different kinds. chapter 13 stays on your credit report for seven years. it means you're going to repay all all of your debt. the court is going to set up a repayment plan and it's going to be to be repaid within five years. here's another type. chapter seven. they take everything you own, sell it, pay off your creditors and wipe out the rest of your debt. this is going stay on your credit report for ten years. chapter 13, that's seven years. we were looking into the kind of impact that a bankruptcy filing is going to have and i found this astounding. the lower your credit score currently, the less of an impact a bankruptry filing will have. let's say you have a high score of 800.

your credit score is going to take a hit of say 250 to 300 points. if you have a score of 600, you file for bankruptcy, it might only take a hit of 100 points t. reason for that is fico says it's already factored into the lower scores, so they're bringing the higher score down to the lower level that reflects the risky behavior. >> as you're talking about this, it brings to mind, this idea that filing for bankruptcy could be a successful strategy to some. it reminds me of people literally walking away from their homes because they are so under water it doesn't make good sense to hang on to the home. >> you hit the nail right on the head, tony. you think about what people owe. our research shows that people are filing more chapter seven

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they have nowhere to do their work. they harvest global ambitions and richard layland is determined to guide them to success. >> we are a billion mobile workers by the end of this year. that's 1 billion. >> that is a lot of potential users for his ap. his company augmented reality. computer generated images on an app. it shows people the best places to work while on the go. he is part of a new wave of entrepreneurs hoping to cash in on the office exodus. >> you can work anywhere. because of that change and there is now a need for a guide to those places.

>> his app might lead users to a well wi-fied coffee shop or it might take them to a place like this. the hub in london. another way of capitalizing on these creative nomads. new members join from $22 a month. it was founed in 2008. he wanted a place where the challenged could create. >> they're setting up new businesses in their bedrooms, trying to steal wi fi here and there in kind of random locations. the hub has given them a physical home. >> in fact, the home has turned into a camper. the hub brand has been franchised to more than 20 locations. from san francisco to tel aviv to johannesburg. but does it work in practice?

hugh runs an interaction agency and actually credits the hub as being good for business. >> the hub enables us to both work premotely with our freelance freelancers, but also to bring them in and share the same physical space. and the time of the hub allows us to expand and contract at any given time. >> in these lean time, this might be the only instance where workers being out on the street is actually good for someone's business. and hello again. top of the hour in the "cnn newsroom" where anything can happen. here are some of the people behind today's top stories. survival in this economy. and live this hour at the white house, a summit on how

these colleges can improve america's come pettiveness in the world. we catch up with a soldier who survived ft. hood, now serving on the front lines in afghanistan. >> i'm used to it by now, i know it's not real. i know it's not happening anymore. >> you're online and josh is following what's hot. >> brand new crash test ratings are out under new, tougher rules today. we've got the results. let's get started with our lead story. 28 days and counting to the election and a secret tape emerges. sharron angle trying conjole a republican into dropping his seat. let's bring in mark preston from washington. the tape makes the self-proclaimed conservative to

outsiders like a conventional politician. >> it does. she talks about how she has juice here in washington, d.c. with some very powerful republicans. what we're talking about is a secret tape that happened back in i guess last week or wednesday or thursday. it was done by scott ashjian. scott is a tea party candidate. he's running for senate out there. sharron angle, who's spoupporte by the tea party, she's trying to get ashjian out of the race. she sits down for about a half hour, tries to get him to get out. talks very bad about the republican party and then has this to say. let's take a listen. >> okay. >> there you go.

you have her talking about how she has juice to be able to open doors here in washington, d.c. with the likes of jim demint, mitch mcconnell. ashjian did not take the bait. he secretly recorded the conversation, gave it to one of nevada's best political journalists and here we are now. now, she is here tonight for a fund-raiser with some very powerful republican, including john cornyn and massachusetts senator, scott brown. very interesting conversation tonight. >> yeah. let's -- two questions. the first one, how close is that race? nevada? >> it is neck and neck right now. if you were to look at polling, it shows that it is anyone's game. let's look at the cnn opinion research poll. couple of weeks old, but this really tells where we are at the race. harry reid is in a fight for his life.

sharron angle, who again as this tea party candidate came out of nowhere. the republican establishment didn't want her to be the nominee. tea party is pouring a lot of money into nevada. harry reid says he will spend $25 million to win this race. the big wild card is if ashjian stays in, does he hand the race to reid. >> is there a potential for this tape to impact this race negatively for sharron angle? >> here's the thing. it could cause some on the fence to say, wait a second. sharron angle has portrayed herself as someone who's going to go to washington and clean things up, however, when she makes statements like this, it raises the red flag. it's not helpful 28 days before election. >> thank you. you know, there are no signs scott ashjian plans to give in to sharron angle.

he told "american morning" and went on to say politics in general is corrupt. >> what do you think should come of it now that this is out there? >> i don't think -- listen. people can listen to it. they can read it, make their own decisions. here in nevada, we have an interesting situation. we have people from washington, d.c. trying to affect the nevada race. we have a tea party express out of california that put in their candidate. they gave her the boost she needed with 30 days left. infused her race with money. the republicans put 12 or 13 people on the ballot, chopped up the vote, so the most popular candidate didn't get it. it wasn't scott ashjian. at the end of the day, we're going to put on a good race. the people of nevada will have a good choice and hopefully they vote for me and see through the political rhetoric out there. >> let's do this. try to shift the focus just a bit here to some of the economic

pledges being made from both parties. particularly on jobs. president obama promised unemployment would stay below 8% if stimulus passed. in their pledge, republicans promised, quoting, national economic prosperity, but offer few particulars on how to make that happen. joining me from new york is christine romans. do you see anything, and we're looking as you're looking, in this pledge where republicans can actually stimulate job growth? >> they give a few particulars about how they would try to do that and among them, if some of the traditional republican platform like cut the size of government. cut bureaucratic red tape. they say that kills small business when ever you have too much red tape, that's job killing. they talk about a small business tax deduction equal to 20% of their business income. they think that would make the way for investment and capital

purchases and the like. they go on about excessive federal regulation and say these new obama proposals create uncertainty for small business and that is a de facto tax hike and means small businesses are less likely to hire. it's interesting because one of the things that is an advantage for the republicans here is that as you pointed out, the president said we've got to have the stimulus. february, we've got to have the stimulus. we'll be able to keep the unemployment rate at 8%, which is an uncomfortable level and it still went up, knocking on the door of 10%. that gives the republicans a lot of ammunition heading into the medicine te midterms. they offer traditional ways for job growth. an idea logical line they're drawing. get the government out of things.

let small business and job creators create jobs. >> okay. all right. and there you have it. appreciate it. thank you. the white house is about to host a summit on community colleges. president obama will speak on the critical role they play in developing the u.s. workforce. josh is back with us. for a look at that. >> we have been hearing a lot about the troubles by all sorts of schools. they're running out of cash, dropping teachers. this is a big piece of that we've been wearing about. the white house wants to focus on community colleges and how the economy is impacting them. more than 1600 of them in the u.s. and they're critical to training the workforce. the american association of colleges and workforce says more than two years into economic downturn, they say community colleges more than any type of

institution are feeling the pressure to do more with less. jill biden will be hosting the summit. i want to show you these key states. take a look here. community colleges education 43% of the undergraduates in america. that's a huge part of the workforce. enrollment in this economy has gone up as people lost jobs, they decide to get more training. 94% say enrollment's going up. more students which means you need teachers and resources for them. meanwhile, 18% are avoiding budget cuts in the latest year. even more the year before. still now, we're hoping to come out of the difficult times for school, but they've still got these cuts there. 23% are reporting hiring

freezes, so when you have these community colleges which enroll about 6 million young people in america, we have a country that wants to education people so we can compete better, we need these to be operative, but they're losing their money. so that today is what the summit is about. >> because state budgets are a mess. municipal budgets, state budgets are an absolute mess right now, which is why i suppose the administration the trying to get private corporations to partner with some of these community colleges to get programs and train these workers for the jobs they have available. is is that the logic? >> they need to get private investment and take a good, hard look at funding. it's also about schools giving ideas to each other. what some have come up with to help them deal with less money and still educate as many as possible. coming up, i'll talk to a 21-year-old student having a hard time getting classes he

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sergeant first class died -- he joined the army in 2001 and had been in training continuously every since. the commander says he was the

quint essential ranger and hero to his nation and family. he leaves a wife and two small children. u.s. troops attacked and killed by one of their own. 13 soldiers died when a disgunt led major went on a rampage. we caught up with one soldier who made it out alive. he's already serving a tour of duty tracking down i.e.d.s in afghanistan. >> reporter: some of the soldiers fighting this war are the survivors of one of the deadliest shooting incidents in american history. a bomb-hunting patrol rolls home in a cloud of dust. among the road weary troop, alan carroll, a 21-year-old soldier from new jersey. he moves with surprising strength and speed. less than a year ago, he was shot four times with a pistol. >> i got hit one right there.

i took one right there. and came out here. took the one in my side and leg. >> reporter: carroll was wounded in afghanistan, but in ft. hood, texas, last november. at first, carroll thought the shooting was a joke. then after being hit by two bullets, carroll says he came face to face with the suspected shooter, major nidal hasan. >> me and him just like looked at each other and the only thing i could think was [ bleep ]. da damn it, i'm dead. he fired two shots. one went past my ear, the other went in my leg. >> reporter: by the time is smoke cleared, 13 were dead. >> it's bumpy. >> reporter: three months later, the company deployed to afghanistan. despite his wounds, carroll was determined to be here with them. >> no, you're not going, you're

not going to make it. i like proving people wrong. it's my thing i guess. >> reporter: in afghanistan, the 20th engineering bah tall on hunts roadside bombs. he spent time hunting a vehicle that his sergeant nicknamed the coffin. improvised explosive devices have hit all but one in the platoon, including carrolls. >> it wasn't that significant. still scared the crap out of me, but wasn't that crazy. >> reporter: thanks to armor, carroll survived, but taliban ambushes have claimed victims, including a fellow platoon member killed last august. nine years ago, alan carroll was in seventh grade waiting for a schoolbus when he first learned

about the september 11th attacks. >> i get nightmares a lot, but i'm used to it by now. i don't know it's not real. i know it's not happening any more. you still wake up sweating, your heart beating real fast. you wake up, look around, see my friends here. >> toda >> reporter: thoed, these young soldier rs veterans of battles at home and aboard, with the physical and mental scars to prove it. the soldiers have received hours of counseling and therapy and now say they want to leave the ft. hood shooting behind them. their officers say the true test of their emotional and mental health will come when they return home from afghanistan after their dangerous tour of duty. ivan watson, cnn, kandahar in southern afghanistan.

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taking a look at top stories, if you catch an amtrak train this week, you may notice uniformed officers left and right. it is part of an exercise called rail safe. the exercise was long planned and is not connected to the threat in europe. a junl was arrested after

agents say he paid a stripper for sex and bought drugs for her. jack camp presided over a number of high profile cases. he has posted bail. 33 miners are very close to being rescued. the drilling team could breakthrough to the miners within three to four days. now to our focus on bul bullying. victims are taking a stance. many gathered in las vegas last night to demand legislation. >> there's just been too much news lately. too many deaths, too much discrimination, too much harassment based on sexual orientation and gender identity. we have to stop it. we cannot tolerate it. >> many shared stories of emotional or physical torment. it was called in response to tyler clemente. he killed himself by jumping off a bridge after his sexual

encounter was broadcast online. let's look closer at the problem as seen through the eyes of viewers of middle and high schoolers. how widespread a problem is this among the group of young people you communicate with? >> we took a poll in the spring about how many of them had seen bullying in some form and 87% told us they'd seen it. they'd been afgted by it. you're going to see there's sort of a sense of hopelessness, a sense they're going to have to live with it. he's saying it's a part of life. we have to live with it. there's not a great deal of optimism from what we've seen that this is going to go away anytime soon. you can see an example of how widespread, you can hear it in this student's words. she sent in this ireport. take a listen. >> i think if you think about

it, everybody's bullied someone at some point in time, whether it's shoving someone into a locker or calling somebody a name, so, yes, i have bullied someone. >> that's part of the reason why ipg it's so difficult to come up with a definition because it occurs in so many different forms. >> what types did they talk about? >> physical, verbal and cyber. as you see from a graphic we have, also, verbal got the most responses. it's still pretty well split, but most of the students who commented comments specifically on verbal. we have a comment from a student named angela. listen to what she says about how verbal bullying sticks with you -- as far as the experience goes, what it feels like through students being bullied, i haven't seen a comment that

phrases it this well. >> makes you feel like you have a bottomless pit in your stomach. you're always worried when the bully is going to come and pick on you and it feels like nobody wants to help you. they want to laugh along with the bully. >> again, the hopelessness, that this is going to stick around. they don't see efforts to curve this. >> i wonder how we would approach this if we talked about it in terms of young kids being terrorized. it's been around forever. talked about it in terms of kids, young people being terrorized, i wonder how we would treat it. there are resources available to help with this problem? >> cnnstudentnews.com, for

parents and teachers. >> terrific stuff. thank you, sir. anderson cooper takes a look at bullying in our schools and now, online. why do kids do it and what can be done to stop it? a special report tonight at 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. do we have a live picture from the east room? the summit on community colleges. there is dr. jill biden. the president wants a better fit between work in the classroom and work in the real world. we will check in when the president begins. f@@

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president about to begin his remarks addressing the first ever white house summit on community colleges. he believes they will play a key role in better preparing workers for jobs. i want to kind of get past the thank yous in all of this. i don't think there's a way to avoid it without getting to our guest. the president wants to make remarks, so designed to better align private corporations with community colleges so that the community colleges are in fact training young people, students, and older people who got back for new training for jobs available in this economy as it shakes out and turns into this new thing. this new economy that is taking shape. all right. let's do this. let's listen to some of the comment frs the president, then our guest in just a couple of minutes. >> i'm so grateful for jill

being willing to lead today's summit. first of all, because she has to spend time putting up with joe. and that's a big enough task than to take this one on, too, on behalf of the administration is extraordinarily significant. i do not think she's doing it for the mrks. she's doing it because of the passion she has for community college. jill has devoted her life to education. she's been a teacher for nearly three decades, although you can't tell it by looking at her. a college professor for 17 years. i want it on the record, jill is not playing hooky today. the only reason she's here is because her college president gave her permission to miss class. this morning appearing on "today," she was grading papers

in her white house office, so i think it's clear why i asked jill to travel the country visiting community colleges because as she knows personally, these are the unsung heroes of america's education system. they provide a gateway to millions of americans to good jobs and better life. these are places where young people can continue their education without taking on a lot of debt. these are places where workers can gain new skills. to move up in their careers. these are places where anyone with a desire to learn and to grow can take a chance on a brighter future for themselves and their families, whether that's a single mom or returning soldier or an aspiring entrepreneur. and community colleges aren't just the key to the future of their students, they're also one of the keys to the future of our

country. we are in a global competition to lead in the growth industries of the 21st century and that leadership depends on a well educated, highly skilled workforce. we know, for example, that in the coming years, jobs requiring at least an associate's degree are going to grow twice as fast as jobs that don't require college. we will not fill those jobs or keep those jobs on our shores without community colleges. so, it was no surprise when one of the main recommendations of my economic advisory board, who i met with yesterday, wants to expand education and job training. these are executives from some of america's top companies. their businesses need a steady supply of people who can step into jobs involving a lot of tech knowledge and skill. they understand the importance of making sure we're preparing folks for the jobs of the

feature. in fact, throughout our history, when ever we faced economic challenges, we've responded by seeking new ways to harness the talents of our people. in the 19th century, we built public schools, transforming not just education, but our economy. in the 20th century, we passed the gi bill and invested in math and science, helping to unleash a wave of innovation that's helped to forge the great american middle class. but in recent year, we've failed to live up to this legacy. especially in higher education. in just a decade, we've fallen from first to ninth in the proportion of young people with college degrees. not only represents a huge waste of potential, it represents a threat to our position as the world's leading economy.

as far as i'm concerned, america does not play for second place and we don't play for ninth. so, i've set a goal. my 2020, america will once again lead the world in producing college graduates. and i believe community colleges will play a huge part in meeting this goal by producing an additional 5 million degrees and certificates in the next ten years. that's why last year, i launched the american -- >> just a sense of the president's remarks. the president addressing the first ever white house summit on community colleges from the east room. president obama believes they'll play a key role in better preparing workers for jobs. let's have a conversation about this, real time. joining me from los angeles, eddie landivoso. he is a college student. and jack scott, chancellor of colleges. let's talk about what the president is talking about. if you would, what is your

situation right now? describe for us your frustration with getti inting classes. you go to sign up and what happens? >> the problem we're running into is that people are sitting on the floor. we have room for about 30 students in each classroom and we get about 60, 70 students that don't get seats in the classroom. they have to pull chairs from outside or wait outside for a waiting list that sometimes doesn't get to because of the large number of students that are signing up for courses at all the schools here in the l.a. area. >> wait. so, you're saying you go to classes and there are folks sitting on the floors trying to get a chair, a desk and you're on a wait list, right? and what do you do? wait for someone to call and say there's a space, or if someone drops the class and you're sitting in the classroom on the floor, you go and grab that chair? what's going on here? >> well, that's sort of correct.

people just wait to see who drops the class to hope and get a seat. sometimes, they take up to two, three weeks of the class, then get told, there's no space or your going to have to drop the class even though you weren't registered or just wait it out and hope to register and get credit for the class you already took. >> so, jack, you have a good news, bad news scenario happening here. surging enrollment at a time of budget cuts at the state level meaning fewer classes. how are you responding to the demand and supply problem you're facing in your state in helping folks like eddie here? >> we're doing the very best we can. the demand is more than the supply. we wish the resources were present. last year, we took an 8% cut in the community college budget in california and all of our 112 colleges, which enrolled 2.75 million students, are struggling

with this problem. our classes are jam packed. we would like to schedule more classes, but our colleges can't bankrupt themselves, so when they take an 8% cut, they have to reduce the schedule. but the california community colleges are very heroic because they're working as hard as they can. our demand is so great with the job retraining, with the impacted california state university and university of california, with the fact that many students want to come to us for the first two years of college and we just hope the resources and state will get greater in order for us to meet that demand. >> jack, talking about the resources, i think i read recently that there is some kind of budget agreement in your state. if that holds, will that offer some relief? >> it will. for instance, the governor had recommended a 2% increase in our

enrollment, which is not enough to meet the demand, but would be helpful. and the word i'm getting is that perhaps that proposal will be part of the budget. we hope that budget will be adopted this next week, but of course, we can't spend money that we don't have. and right now, because of the failure of the budget to be signed, some of the money that's been promised us this year has been held up. >> one more for jack, then back to eddie. we're looking for community cle colleges to better match students with available jobs. can you do that? >> well, we have a wonderful jobs training. we turn out firefighters, nurses, dental hygienists, machinists, auto mechanics and then provide the transfer education for the individuals that go to us and transfer on to the university.

i applaud the president's emphasis on community college. i'm thrilled we're being recognized. here in california, 70% of the undergraduates in the education in california are in our community colleges. we intend to continue to do it. the demand the there. right now, the supply is a little weak. >> eddie, given the difficult in getting the classes you're looking for, how long will it take you to graduate and get started in your new professional life? >> it depends on how hard you want to work on getting your classes. there are a lot of community clenls here around l.a., so you could go to various colleges and get out as soon as possible with two semesters for me, possibly three. >> what do you want to do? >> i want to study history. go into law. >> what do you want to do? teach?

>> yeah. >> as a profession? >> yes, sir. >> okay. good luck, all right? and maybe we'll check back and see how you're doing. jack, good to see you. >> it's great to be here. appreciate being on the program. >> our pleasure. still to come, more moms and dads are cashing in the money they've been saving for retirement to put their kids through college. we look at why some experts say they might be a mistake. the mistake of a lifetime. back in a moment.

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trial -- stephen hayes -- and her two daughters, just a horrible case. prosecutors say the pair burst into the home and tied up the family and forced the mother to drive to the bank. the men allegedly raped the mother and daughter. the husband badly beaten -- in just a moment ago. he will be tried separately. we will certainly share the information on that as soon as we get it, but we understand a verdict is in and the judge is returning to the courtroom. the jury is returning to the courtroom. when we get that information, we will pass ate along to you. par rents make a lot of sacrifices, but almost one-fourth of parents are looking to their retirement

savings. christine romans talks about it in her new book, smart is the new rich. some might argue that desperate times call for desperate measure, but i know this is generally speaking, not a good idea. >> it's not because you can borrow for your kids college, but you can't borrow for your retirement. parents are up against a wall because another rule is your kid has to have the right education, the right skills to compete in a more nimble and different labor market of the future, so you want to give them the best so they can survive. here's what this study found. 24% of parents surveyed said they plan to raid their 401(k), their ira, their pension to pay for college. the same said they are planning to use 529 accounts.

those are the accounts you can grow tax free to pay for college. 24% are going to raid. that's what they plan to do. what are they doing now in 2009, 2010, the end of the recession, 6% did tap their accounts. that's up from 3% the previous year. couple of things to remember, a fantastic story on cnn money about this. the publisher, he says if you tap that money out of your 401(k), it's counted as income, so the final aid office, that's going to count against you on student aid, so remember, your kid can borrow for college. you can't for your retirement. sounds simple, i know. it's tough. one thing in here i thought interesting of the 60% of families are saving, of those, the number one place they're saving, cds and general savings

account. >> there are tax implications. >> you can take a loan, but have to pay it back. when you're trying to get education for your kid, that's something that could spell trouble down the road if you save $200 a month today, that's the same as borrowing later on. >> we want to make sure everyone gets the book. what's the title? >> "smart is the new rich." for you, smart, good looking and rich. >> yeah. we will push this all day. thank you. we want to join our folks at "in

session." there was a verdict in on that gruesome connecticut murder trial. let's listen. >> that's why. they didn't believe it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt. >> in count 17, assault, second degree, that is guilty. so, let's review once again. counts 1 through 15, guilty. count 16, not guilty. count 17, guilty. really, the story here is that this is moving on to the penalty phase. stephen hayes will be on trial for his life. >> that's right. and assuming these verdicts stand up on appeal, stephen hayes, at a minimum, will never be a free man again. he will serve life without parole at a minimum. the jury will move on to this thaz. if they vote death, he may not actually die buy lethal

injection just because they don't execute people quickly. better chance of dying of natural causes. that's not unusual around the country, but if the injury cannot agree unanimously on a verdict of the penalty phase, then the penalty phase gets retried before a new jury. 12 jurors have to agree. >> either life or death. that's interesting because many states don't have it that way. let's bring in sunny. your reaction. this man has in fact been found guilty of all six capital murder counts. they find him responsible for the deaths of jennifer and her two daughters. >> this evidence was just so overwhelming. i'm not surprised that he was found guilty of the murders of all three, my kayla, jennifer.

they did ask this question about arson and whether or not starting the fire meant lighting the match and when the judge instructed them no, obviously, that's one thing they were grappling with, but 16 out of 17 counts makes this a capital case. a death penalty case now and i think that we're going to hear a lot more evidence for the death penalty phase. >> absolutely. >> one month possibly one month. >> we'd like to welcome our cnn viewers who have joined us. stephen hayes, a triple murder case, has been found guilty of 16 of 17 counts. he has been found guilty of the sixth capital felony counts. that means this case moves on to the penalty phase where is this man will be on trial for his life and these jurors will decide whether or not he lives in prison or dies in prison. beth is with us in new haven.

beth, there were some questions, but it's four hours and 15 minutes of deliberations and this jury spoke loudly today. >> yes, they did. and i'll tell you one reason why it was a quick tlib ration is because the defense got up and conceded his guilty on many of the charges. they admitted he committed arson although they didn't find him guilty of that because of one element starting a four. pouring the gasoline wasn't enough. he needed to light the match in the jury's mind. he kidnapped, he killed and raped jennifer, but they only said he intended not the kill the daughters and that could have saved him had the jury believed that from some of the capital felony counts because four were based on an intention alkyling of the daughters. they rejected the -- four hours and 15 minutes, not a long time, but there aren't that many

issues. they ran into the arms of the police coming from the burning house. it's not like it was a case of mistaken identification. and they admitted to many of the crimes also. >> this was not a who done it, but what did each do. there were three women who were tortured, raped and killed in this case. don't forget, his co-defendant will be tried in about a year for these crimes, but before that, stephen hayes is going to be on trial for his life. we've got what happened inside the courtroom as well. dr. william pettitte was inside the courtroom for this verdict and all reports are that he, again, was the way he has been throughout this entire ordeal. incredibly courageous, incredibly stoic as he listened to the verdicts. the rest of his family members, hugging each other. this is a difficult time for

them as well. they've been inside that courtroom from the beginning of this trial to the end. again, let us, let's review what we've learned. 16 of 17 counts, guilty. guilty for stephen hayes. there he is. he was facing charges dealing with the murders. including were charges of rape, of kidnapping this entire family, of assaulting the husband. he's been found guilty of everything except the arson. if in fact, do you have to light the match to be guilty of arson, can you be found guilty of arson for just pouring the gasoline, the judge said no and jury said no to that. but that is minor compared to these other charges we're talking about here. sunny is also with us. >> our thanks to "in session."

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jean casarez joining me now with more on this from connecticut. good to see you. how is it the first thing that strikes me, how is it that hayes wasn't found guilty of that loan charge. how did that happen? when you look at the evidence in this case. explain that to us. >> you're talking about count 18, the arson, first degree burning of an occupied building. obviously, the jury did not believe he was the one responsible for an arson, we know the house burned down, we nowak sell rants were -- beyond a -- this is a capital murder case. this will determine whether or not he receives the death penalty. >> in covering this trial, maybe

it would be fitting for you to remind us of how gruesome. >> it is unbelievable. this crime that now a jury has found steven hayes guilty of. it was a family, a mother and two daughters. they went to a mother -- saw them, didn't go in at that point, but late in the night, another defendant went to that home, gained entry and with dr. pettite, bound him and beat him. took him to the basement. the two daughters, tied them to their bed. they made the mother go to the bank and draw $15,000, taking her bank but not before she was

raped and strangled to death. the last act, that axel rant all over the home while the girls were alive led to the burning of the home. >> and steven hayes found guilty. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] it's luxury with fire in its veins. bold. daring. capable of moving your soul. ♪ and that's even before you drop your foot on the pedal. ♪ the new 2011 cts coupe from cadillac. the new standard of the world.

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