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he says he forgets -- >> they're cloth. ♪ and love dares you to change our way of caring ♪ >> reporter: these frogs don't croak -- ♪ under pressure >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn -- ♪ pressure >> reporter: new york. >> thanks, jeanne. that's all the time we have. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "john king, usa" starts right now. thanks, wolf. and good evening. a busy night in politics, including some developing stories this hour we're watching. one is debate in florida's contentious three-way senate race. and christine o'donnell's old friend, now nemesis, bill maher, will be with us to talk about some new polls that underscores the uphill fight that o'donnell is facing. but we begin with two other dramas involving leading women in both the democratic and republican parties. secretary of state hillary clinton tonight squatting down talk she'll be on the ticket with president obama in 2012.
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and sarah palin blames what she calls the mainstream for stirring up trouble. we call it reporting our jobs. with us to sort the truth from the spin, or at least to try, in new york, cnn contributor and senior political columnist for the dailybeast.com, john avalon. in atlanta, our contributor and the editor of the conservativeredstate.com, also author of "red state uprising," eric erickson. with me here in washington, donna brazile, and cnn's senior political analyst, gloria borger. let's begin with the e-mail battle up in the state of alaska. first i want to read you an e-mail from todd palin, affectionately known to many as the first day. he got mad at joe miller. todd palin sent this since-leaked e-mail back in september to joe miller. "sarah put her -- on the line for joe and yet he can't answer a simple question. is sarah palin qualified to be president? joe, please explain how this endorsement stuff works?
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it is to be completely one sided. sarah spent all morning working on a facebook post for joe and she won't use it now." now, before we get to the conversation, here's what got todd palin ticked off. joe miller, again, the republican candidate, was on fox news sunday, back on september 19th, and he was asked the question, would he back sarah palin for president? >> you know, i'm running a u.s. senate race right now in the state of alaska. that's whoo what i'm focused on. i've been asked about various candidates throughout the country during this race. that's not my role to comment on those candidacies. >> eric erickson, much ado about nothing, or a sign that there are tensions between the palin camp and the miller camp in a race that is still very close? >> i very much think it's much to do about nothing. if we re-read todd palin's e-mail about joe miller, he thought the question asked was, is she qualified to be president, not whether he was supporting her.
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he has since apologized and said it was that confusion. but the bigger question is, who in joe miller's staff leaking these e-mail? he may need to figure out who that person is. that should be the story. >> does it run deeper than that, john? >> yes, it does. the real news out of this e-mail exchange was joe miller's response that he forwarded to people on his staff saying, holy cow, this is what we're dealing with. that is a tell. that tells the truth, which is that even in alaskan politics, in these two gop allies, there's serious questions about kind of the temperament of the palin family when it comes to politics. that pulls the curtains back. that's the news here. >> and even if it's -- let's say, even if it's not a question of the temperament, it's certainly proof that todd palin continues to closely watch. he was called the enforcer in the mccain campaign for watching everything that was said and done about his wife. it proves he's watching. you just heard joe miller there on fox news sunday, back on september 19th saying, hey, wait a minute, i'm not going to answer that question. i'm not going to be distracted by this. i'm running for office.
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he was back on fox today, and again the question came up. he went a little bit further just trying to answer this basic question. is she qualified? >> we know what qualified means, don't we? we know that we have a constitutional requirement for somebody that's going to run for president. of course she's qualified. >> so here's my question, before we bring gloria and donna into the conversation. you heard what he said on september 19th. you just heard what he said today. what has changed? why is joe miller afraid what he said right here on this program back on september 1st? if governor palin were to run for president in 2012, would senator joe miller be an automatic supporter? >> you know, governor palin can succeed in whatever she puts her mind to. she was critical to the success of this campaign. she is absolutely a force to be reckoned with nationally. i absolutely will support her in her endeavors. >> so why a different answer days later?
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>> he's a politician. i'm sorry to have to tell everyone this. that, you know, he realizes that she's a lightning rod in the state in which she's trying to win election to the senate. and, so, he doesn't want to go out on that limb, because he doesn't want to alienate some voters who could vote for murkowski, for example, so he's walking a line. the thing that i'm still working on from earlier is that sarah palin was spending all morning on a facebook post? do you -- do you know anybody who spends all morning on -- >> well, her facebook -- to defend sarah palin, her facebook postings in this race and other races have been hugely successful in generating money for candidates across the country, including support for joe miller up in alaska. you can have a debate about how long she spends on them. but, donna, here's it shall. is that -- do you think that's what it is? on september 1st, he didn't say he would endorse her for president, but he said, i'll support her in all her endeavors. in subsequent interviews, he does not want to talk about this issue. is it because sarah palin is controversial in her own state.
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does he not want to get caught into this palin/murkowski feud that's going on? >> i think joe miller is trying to establish his own kre ten shls and he understands, like most political candidates, that he has to pay the piper. sarah palin is largely responsible for joe miller being the republican nominee. she put her tweet out, she facebooked about him, and now he is the republican nominee. he defeated an established female candidate and he needs to pay the piper. >> well, and what todd is saying is, we own you. >> thank you. >> we own you! >> and here's something sarah palin -- hang on one second. sarah palin tweeted this today, and i love following her on twitter, because you get some great stuff. here she says, sarah palin tweeted, "there's no there there, but the lamestream media will keep on trying." maybe this is not going to get anybody a job, but in terms of politics, she has kept an incredibly high profile. she is moving around the country. a lot of people think she's going to run for president. and she well knows and her
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husband well knows that if they communicate with e-mails and somebody in a campaign leaks them out, of course that's going to be followed in the political news coverage. >> big news when sarah palin tweets. >> sure. >> but we're missing something. we're talking about it as if he was asked the same question over and over, and he wasn't. todd palin thought he was asked a question that he wasn't asked, and that's what this is all about. i mean, the issue of him sending out to his campaign staff, this is what we're dealing, according to miller today, it wasn't meant as a slam against todd palin, it was meant as, this is a distraction against the big issue, murkowski. >> everyone can read that e-mail and know exactly what's going on. >> well -- the palins, yes. >> no, no, i don't think that filter's required to tell the truth of the e-mail. >> -- all about loathing the palins by people in the media. >> in joe miller's second statement, what was amazing to me, when he a chance to clarify, he rated a constitutional standard, which i think is mental indpacapacity. why not just answer the
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question? >> well, largely because of what donna's saying, this is about him. we're all trying to make this about sarah palin, but he's the one running. >> erick, do you think it was wise of todd palin to send that e-mail? >> you know, i'm not going to speak for todd palin -- >> no, i'm asking you, though. >> i wouldn't have sent it, but he and joe miller are good friends. they've got a long relationship. >> why didn't he call him, erick, and just say, we need to have a man to man conversation. >> this is the ridiculousness of -- why don't we call as opposed to sending e-mails. >> i think that may be a lesson learned. in the age of twitter and facebook, if you have a message you don't want some campaign staffer to leak on you, use the phone. but sharron angle just found out, some conversations are recorded whether you know it or not. a quick time-out on this one. coming up, we shift to hillary clinton. what does a national football league trade have to do with secretary clinton's political future? [ male announcer ] sometimes after surgery straining should be avoided.
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all across the world of politics today, a heated conversation. will she or won't she? biden or clinton? will hillary clinton replace joe
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biden as president obama's vice presidential nominee in 2012? this has been discussed in washington before, but it got reignited last night right on this program. bob woodward was here and he said this. >> it's on the table. and some of hillary clinton's advisers see as a real possibility in 2012. president obama needs some of the women, latinos, retirees that she did so well with during the 2008 primaries, and so they switch jobs and not out of the question. >> that generated a lot of buzz, but it's the last thing the obama white house wants to be talked about right now is 2012, when they're worried about 2010. so the chairman of the democratic national committee went out this morning on nbc, it's the 7:00 hour here in the east coast and he says, come on. >> hey, i'm really focused on the next four weeks, and that's way down the line. i think it's kind of like is
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randy moss going to get traded from the patriots to the vikings? it's speculation, but i don't think there's anything to it. >> just one little problem with that. you heard him say, just like speculation, randy moss is going to get traded to the vikings. well, within an hour of that interview, from espn and from boston.com, guess what happened? randy moss got traded to the vikings. it's not exactly speculation. so everyone stopped saying aha, left to hillary clinton to tamp this down herself. she said, joe biden is my friend, he's a great vice president and not me. >> we have a great relationship, and i have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on. because there's just no -- we have no time. we have so much to do and i think both of us are very happy doing what we're doing. >> donna brazile, end of story? >> i think so. look, luckily, they have no e-mails, no twitters, no tweets
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about this. so based on my conversation with people at the dnc, at the white house, not going to happen. >> and i have to say, based on a conversation i had with somebody who works for the vice president, sure, self-interested a little bit, who said, woodward's been going to too many georgetown dinner parties. >> he was very clear. he said, people close to her say this is a possibility. >> and close to the white house have publicly said, forget -- look, i think there is a close relationship between the president and joe biden. by the way, what would hillary clinton bring? i know you say women and et cetera, but the base is really mad at hillary clinton because of the war in afghanistan. joe biden does well with blue-collar workers, she did well with blue-collar workers in the last campaign. but we're litigating the last next, not the coming election. >> erick erickson, do you want joe biden or hillary clinton on the ticket in 2012? >> i don't think it's about what
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i want. i think it's not going to happen. if she's there, she's there. if she's not, she's not. it's just -- i don't know. >> here's the question, john avalon, if it's such a nonstory, why does it keep coming up? >> well, i think in part because it's a bright, shiny object. you know, these two marquee names. people like moving names around, but it really -- you know, it would be one thing if this was after the election, a slow news story. we've got real drama, realtime, election 2010, an epic midterm, but today everyone's speculating about a 2012 vp nominee. >> well, because bob woodward said, it must be true. he listens to everyone -- >> so you're saying it's true? >> no, i don't think -- >> no, but he says it's on the table. well, whose table? that's the question. i think it's outside chatter, not inside chatter. >> well, i think there's something that rings true here in the stories that have circulated out of washington for a while among people, that there is this distance between biden
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and obama shaping up. i don't even know if that's true. >> not true. >> not true. >> there you go. those share a lot in common. >> the vice president has done a lot of work this year. it's been a tough political year for the democrats, but he's been the happy warrior, making the case all across the country. >> and he's still out there on the campaign trail. and even woodward's own book showed the close relationship they had, particularly on foreign policy. i mean, even when obama and biden disagreed on afghanistan, obama encouraged biden to bring his point of view to the table. >> they have a good, close relationship. >> erick, donna, gloria, i've got to stop this. we'll keep a tab of what's on the table and what's off the table as we go forward. we've got a lot more to come as we continue the conversation tonight, including a lot more politics. and this year, a lot of money. corporate money, union money, a lot money you can't track because it's not disclosed is coming into the campaigns to influence your vote. we'll have a debate about that and give you a little bit more about it. we'll also talk to eliot spitzer
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and kathleen parker out. a new memo from two prominent democrats saying the president's got it all wrong. we'll ask them what they think. and christine o'donnell, as we speak, is at an event in delaware. she's the tea party republican senate candidate. she's caused a lot of controversy, including because of clips released by bill maher. she's taking questions, bill maher will be here a bit later to grade the answers. . but we've parted ways with our old airline credit card that promised flights for 25,000 miles. it was always... [ laughing ] that seat's not happening without a big miles upcharge. a miles upcharge wasn't part of the deal. was i supposed to go without my wife? [ elevator bell dings ] [ grunting ] haha, that was awkward. so we upgraded to the venture card from capital one. we've had it with the games. [ male announcer ] don't pay miles upcharges. don't play games. get the flight you want with the venture card at capitalone.com. what's in your wallet? it's work through the grime and the muck, month. tow and pull without getting stuck month. sweat every day to make an honest buck...month. and if you're gonna try and do
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welcome back. let's bring in joe johns with some of the latest political news you need to know right now. hey, joe. >> john, a slight problem has developed in plans for this weekend's big political rally in california featuring sarah palin and republican party chairman michael steele.
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both meg whitman and carly fiorina, the republican candidates for governor and u.s. senator now say they will not be there. whitman's campaign is doing a bit more than just denying allegations she knew her one-time housekeeper was an illegal immigrant. the whitman camp has now released a poll showing 68% of california voters don't like the woman's attorney, gloria allred. the dow jones industrial has hit a five-month high today, closing just 33 points short of 11,000. but there's a big cloud on the horizon. the latest unemployment numbers come out on friday, and a preview shook the market today. adp, a firm that processes company payrolls, reports the private sector shed 39,000 jobs last month. so not quite out of the woods yet, huh? >> not at all. looking at a tough unemployment report this friday. and as you know, jobs and the economy dominating the political discussion this year. that's why democrats in so much trouble. there was a fascinating graphic display on "the washington post" today, joe. i want to go over to the magic
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wall to share some of it with our viewers. all of this, you can go to our blog that links up the whole thing, but the idea was, why aren't people feeling the recovery? it's a great display. i'll go through some of the slides here. you should look at all of them. here's the idea right now. the economy at the moment is growing at 2%. if the economy continues to grow at 2%, well, in 2020, we'll have nearly 12% unemployment. that's why it's so important that the economy get more juice. oh, my god, 2% growth means 11.9% unemployment in 2020. so what if the economy picks up a little bit and we get 3% growth? that would be up here. we would still have 5% unemployment in 2020. it would take a long time to get down to 5. you see the long slope there. and what if things would come back a bit more rapidly and we could get 6% growth? that would get unemployment down to 5% by 2012. if you get through all these slides in "the washington post" today, it's a fabulous demonstration that shows you straight up and close how bad the economy is, how slow growth
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limits on such spending. in a moment, we'll debate whether that's a good or bad idea and the impact. but first, let's break down some numbers on campaign spending. it's worth noting that most americans don't give any money to political campaigns. $200 or more in contributions this year, 0.21%. less than 1% of americans have given even $200 or a little bit more to campaigns. of course, some people have given more than $2,300, but it is such a small number, it is statistically insignificant. worth remembering as we remember the conversation. let's take a closer look at ad spending so far in this campaign. this is as of today. outside groups, tv ad spending, more than $113 million. the republican and the democratic parties combined, about $825 million. that's of today. this number is on reports filed as of june. we know it's gone way up. but these are federal candidates, candidates running for the house and senate, $641 million as of june. of course that number's jumped up quite a bit as we await the latest reports. now let's take a look at one race where outside money campaign and you decide whether
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it makes an impact. this is the alaska senate race. our country deserves better pac, which is the tea party express, gave a lot of money to joe miller, the candidate in alaska. the money started coming in back in july, $550,000 total. when the money started coming in, lisa murkowski was leading 62% to 30%. the money flowed in, on primary day, joe miller won that race 59/49. pretty easy to make the case there that outside spending helps his campaign because it dwarfed his other spending. with me now to have this debate, tim phillips, the president of americans for prosperity, and bill addison, editorial director of the sunlight foundation, who doesn't like them. simple question off the top. we have seen the impact of this money, why is it a bad idea? the court says let it in. >> well, i think, one of the biggest problems is we don't know where the money is coming from. if you go back to 2004, 2006, 2008, a report was released
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saying we know where upwards of 90% of the money was coming from for these independent ads. now we're down to 32% we're aware of. and you have all kinds of ads run by all kinds of different groups run by different reasons without the voters being able to determine who's behind the ad. i think that's a really important thing to establish, when the money uoney is anonymou can't tell who is spending for the ads. >> should the american people have a right to know? the court says you can spend all you want. should the american people have a right to know, who's trying to influence my vote for senate, for congress? where's this money coming from? >> on the left, they spend hundreds of millions of dollars, don't disclose their donors, don't have to. on the free market side, i think it's a good thing to protect the privacy of individual americans. we've seen too often americans being targeted by the politicians. the president of our foundation, david koch, he was attacked personally by the obama administration, talking about his tax record. how outrageous is that? how chilling is that? i think it's good for americans
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to have privacy. and if you want to know who americans for prosperity is, you can come to any of our rallies, events -- >> how would you answer that. if i disclosed i had given $10 million, $50 million, $100 million to this campaign, that my opponents would try to destroy my business or destroy me? >> if you look historically, there are some reasons why there has been anonymous given, but generally speaking, it hasn't been around political campaigns. back at the turn of the century, the aclu and naacp were unpopular, but they weren't trying to elections. you had a major corporation offering to underwrite the republican national convention in exchange for getting an anti-trust case that the justice department had filed against them dropped. that's why we need this kind of information about money in politics. most of these folks who are giving are giving to influence federal policy. the public governed by that
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federal policy has a right to know who is trying to influence that record. and just because somebody is better heeled or has more money to say we don't have to disclose their identity, that strikes me as like a two-class system. >> the supreme court case was called citizens united, and in the congress, there was an effort through what they call the disclose act to get at this and they simply couldn't get the votes. they couldn't pass it. is there a middle ground between you two, or no? you say no disclosure, you say all disclosure. >> i know for americans for prosperity, the money we're spending, we're a c-4, so the case don't affect us at all with our efforts. i think if you're doing what we're doing, which issing educating folks on the issues and where these candidates stand on health care and cap and trade, that's a good thing. if you want to go endorse candidates, you can have a different discussion. >> let me be clear. i don't mean to interrupt, but you say you don't advocate election -- >> we don't. >> forgive me, some of these ads are pretty tough, and it's pretty clear when you say, call
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congressman john king and tell him you don't like -- after 30 seconds of saying he's the most horrible guy -- >> we don't say he's a horrible guy. if you look at every one of our ads, we're not making personal attacks. we don't do that. and i think you have a c-4 concern or issue if you did do that far. >> from your position, do you see any hope that we don't know what's going to happen, but we're pretty clear we're going to get a more republican house and a more republican senate, and most, not all, but most of the opposition to the disclose act came from the republican party. so are we in this? are we locked now in this new terrain, whether you like it or not, for 2012 and beyond? >> that's a frightening thing. the disclose act did not pass. it was unlikely to before the election. even if it were, the ftc, would not be up and running to do it. and there's a real possibility we'll flow into 2012, where there's a whole lot more money than there will be in the midterms with all kinds of groups running all kinds of ads. and if you think about presidential politics, whether
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it's the daisy ad from the barry goldwater campaign, when johnson ran against barry goldwater, up through dukakis, a negative ad can really define a candidate, and not to know who's paying for it or who's behind it really diminishes the ability of voters to assess that ad and understand that ad and understand the people behind that ad who are sponsoring it. >> major debate in the campaign, gentleman. appreciate your time today. we'll continue the conversation, because the debate won't end. i suspect it will carry on into the next campaign. and when we come back, we'll talk to our new 8:00 host, eliot spitzer and catholic lien parker about the president's strategy. some think it's not working. but later in the program, christine o'donnell live this hour. we'll talk about that and more with bill maher. [ j. weissman ] it was 1975.
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yes, there's an election in just 27 days. and a new memo from two top democrats today warns the president is selling the wrong message. but, the most talked about political story today is secretary of state hillary clinton's insistence any talk of her on the ticket with president obama in 2012 is dead wrong. let's start there with pulitzer prize-winning columnist catholic lien parker and eliot spitzer. their new program "parker spitzer" is at the top of the hour. bob woodward was on the program yesterday. as they shoot this down at the white house and at the state department, there are still some
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hillary people that say, wait, stay tuned for 2016. where are we going here? >> let me just start here. i know that bob woodward has never had to issue a correction in "the washington post," according to my "washington post" editor, so, you know, when bob woodward speaks, there's usually something there. of course they're going to deny it. i mean, secretary clinton can't actually start asking for the job that the vice president currently holds and the white house is going to deny it for the same reasons, but i think there's a lot of appeal there across the board, you know, there are a lot of people out there with buyers remorse, and apparently among democrats themselves. >> you know, i hear all this, it is inevitable there's going to be chatter. every possible permutation of tickets is going to be talked about, when president obama's numbers are sagging as they are now. but here's a prediction for you. i think a year from now when his numbers start to rebound, everybody talks about how brilliant joe biden is, what a particular job he has done, how he has pressured on afghanistan and he is a vibrant part of this ticket. hillary is a friend, i worked
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with her when she was in the senate, when i was governor of new york, but i think the odds of this happening are really, really slim to zero. >> it seems pretty unlikely when you get right down to it. and this is not about joe biden, this is about president obama and trying to get his numbers back up. and if he is feeling very weak at that point, who knows, anything could happen. >> let's shift to something else about president obama. i got this memo today, stan greenberg, prominent democratic pollster. james carville, prominent democratic strategist, happens to be a contributor here at cnn. they do this polling all the time for this group called democracy corps. they put out this memo today and said the president is selling with a precious few weeks left the wrong message. so let's listen to the president. recently he's tried to sharpen his attacks to frame the election campaign. let's listen to the president >> if you want the same kind of skewed policies that led us to this crisis, then the republicans are ready to offer that. but if you want policies that are moving us out, even though you may be frustrated, even
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though change isn't happening as fast as you'd like, then i think democrats are going to do fine in november. >> well, carville and greenberg say that's a horrible message. they say, democrats should be saying, republicans are in bed with wall street, republicans will cut social security, republicans will cut medicare. and eliot, they go on to say this, "democrat candidates must be talking about change, with a populist tinge to get heard from this year." and they say the president's message is painfully weaker than any of those messages. the democrats took control of congress in january of 2007 and the president has been in the white house for 20 months now. can the democrats credibly say, we're the agents of change? >> well, i think it's a tough message to sell. and i've got to tell you, just watching f ining the president that message, i'm saying to myself, if he had performed that way, delivered his message with that intonation and that level of energy back in 2007, he never would have been president. >> i was thinking the exact same thing. >> where is the barack obama who was pounding the table? he was using a little bit more populist rhetoric back then, but there was energy, there was
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passion, there was excitement. i want to see that again. look, carville and greenberg may be right. at this point, fear is going to sell better than trying to persuade the public that they like what they've seen for 20 months. but i want the barack obama i voted for. he's there. i'm a supporter. come back! find us. >> yeah, and this is the passion that was lacking in that presentation. i thought the same thing. i thought, my gosh, that poor man needs a nap or one of those five-hour booster drinks or something. but, you know -- >> yeah, where's yours? >> yeah, i know, i drink them. look, the democrats ran on change. they got it. and now they're running on change again, against themselves. i don't see how that works for them. >> well, look, i don't think it's going to be as bad four weeks from now with some of the worst poll numbers are suggesting. there are numbers all over the place. what president obama is saying is correct, it's just sort of a little hard to make that message go down, because people are saying you own the economy now, you own the afghan war, you own what's going on in the world. take credit for it, and don't kind of -- i don't know, sell it
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sometimes the democrats' tendency to have internal debates can be, quote, a weakness. in massachusetts, a statehouse candidate has an unusual name and an unusual problem. ryan fattman's campaign signs are turning out to be irresistible souvenirs and getting stolen from people's yards. >> if people want the signs, i'm more than willing to give them after the campaign. aisle give them all away, if they want them. and in nevada's neck in neck u.s. senate race, a new cnn/time opinion poll has sharron angle leading harry reid, 42 to 40%. a dead heat given the sampling rate. a pretty tight race, but i hear none of the above is on the ballot. >> we've got better than none of the above with us. we have our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, and jessica yellin. here's what fascinates me about this race.
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harry reid has spent a lot of his money on television, trying to push sharron angle out of the race, saying she's extreme. she's called for privatizing medicare and social security. and yet if you look closer at this polling among independents, that's harry reid saying, a, not only rally the democratic base, but try to pull back. ashton, the tea party candidate could be a problem for both of them. but harry reid down among 10 points among independents after trying to say this woman is way out in the extreme. >> and he's down in seniors after she said to get rid of social security and medicare. this is not good news for harry reid, but the climate is terrible for harry reid. not just because he's a senate majority leader, the ultimate insider and a very anti-washington, anti-incumbent time, but because he's personally well known and not very well hiked. but also, the atmosphere in nevada is just terrible. it's got the highest
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unemployment rate of any state in the entire country and the foreclosure rate is, i think, four times higher -- >> 40% among likely voters. wow. i mean, that is ouch repudiation. >> it's an amazing thing. and you talk to some of the democrats, you get the impression, hey, we always knew this was going to be a very close race. but the truth is, you know, we make jokes about none of the above, i think some of the democrats are actually counting on none of the above to pull votes away from -- >> they are. >> -- sharron angle. >> let's bring jess into the conversation from connecticut. a poll in the race, you're up there covering tonight, too, and they had a debate last night. we look at this race, richard blumenthal, 54% among likely voters, linda mcmahon, the former wrestling ceo, 41%. that has to be a disappointment to linda mcmahon. she's spent $42 million of her own money in this campaign. you talked to both candidates today. that can't be good news for the republican? >> reporter: a real
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disappointment for her, john, but she also is adamant that she'll come back and narrow that gap. she plans to pour more money in here and she went up with a very negative ad, attacking blumenthal after our polling had already begun. so we were in the field when the most negative attacks against her had sort of come out, accusing her of being for reducing the minimum wage, something that she aggressively asserts she's not for. so that was playing out here in connecticut while we were polling. she will come back and fight hard, even blumenthal told us today that he expects these numbers to be close in the very end. he expects to have to fight to the finish. >> all right. time going to turn to something nonpolitical for a moment here. those of you familiar with watching this hour on cnn, there was a guy named lou dobbs used to hold this hour. he left cnn. jess, do you watch "the good wife"? >> reporter: i don't, but i read the transcript. >> okay. joe, do you watch? >> honestly? >> yes, honestly. >> no. >> i watch "the good wife,"
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because my great wife, she's a fan of the program, so i watch it. i'm sitting down last night watching it, and on to the screen, at the beginning of the show, is lou dobbs, and joe trippi, the democratic strategist. at the end there's a debate about a merger and can lou dobbs stay with this law firm. watch this. >> you're saying you can set aside your personal political convictions when it comes to representing me and my interests? >> truthfully, i can never put aside my personal political convictions. what i'm saying is they won't be an issue, if i can represent murderers when i think they're guilty, i can represent you. >> well, that's damned eed decf you, a real vote of confidence. you've been more up-front with me in the past 25 minutes than any attorney i've dealt with and i like the fact that you won't betray your convictions. think about it. >> joe trippi and lou dobbs last night, vernon jordan was on the program a couple months back.
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jess, you going to watch now? >> reporter: i'm just relieved to know that there's a future for people in broadcast after you leave. you can go into cable tv. >> and the best part about it is that she is a very, very, very liberal very, very, very liberal lawyer. and the fact that she has to set it up in order to represent him was a big deal. but i thought that was a big classic. you know what? if you're going to tell me what it is, i'm on your side. >> i was not acting. >> fred thompson is going to do it, who knows? >> i smiled when he walked out of the set during the show. it was great to watch it. we'll see you on, maybe if they're your client, maybe we'll see you again. jess in connecticut, we'll talk to you tomorrow. we told you christine o'donnell is taking questions live this hour, when we come back, your one-time friend and probably
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tea party favorite and republican senate nominee christine o'donnell is taking question this hour. she used to be a frequent guest on bill maher's "politically incorrect j show. i want to start here as bill maher joins us live tonight. let me ask you this question. one of the things that came up with her, and i know it's came up in her prior conversations. how much does her personal faith influence her politics. let's listen to christine o'donnell just moments ago. >> my faith has influenced by personal life, but an
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examination of the issues is what has influenced my political positions. it's the constitution by which i determine all of my policies. what is constitutional? what is best for the people of delaware, i have a strong personal faith that has been quite the topic of the media lately. but when i go to washington, d.c., it is the constitution by which i will make all of my decisions. >> what do you make of that? >> well, i think that's a lie. i don't believe that. we have a clip that we might show where she's saying that she doesn't believe that separation of church and state is in the constitution. now of course that exact phrase doesn't appear in the constitution, but i have no doubt. and she's not the only one by the way. lots of leaders in this country, if you ask them, what would you do in a crisis? pray, that's the first thing they would do is pray because that really helps in a crisis to try to telepathically
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communicate with your imaginary friend. we could have a race between mitt romney who's a mormon who believes in wearing protective undergarments which i call underwear. so tlif's a nuclear attack on friday night, he has someone push the nuclear button, i don't know. magic underwear, versus no electricity on friday night. it's not a question mark to me why we're a laughing stock among civilized nations of the world. >> well, some people have tried to characterize christine o'donnell as a laughing stock. one of the things she did, and we see this from a lot of tea party candidates. the elites are saying i'm not qualified. the elites say they should make better decisions in washington. listen to her answer on this question. i want to hear your take on it. >> if you're not a multimillionaire, if you don't have a trust fund like my opponent, then they attack you
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on not being so-called qualified. but it is these career politicians that have been groomed for office from day one who have gotten our country in the shape that it's in. i, like many people here -- [ applause ] i, like many people here, know how hard it is to earn and keep a dollar and that's why i want to go to washington and protect our right to earn and keep that dollar. >> is there some power to this anti-elite message that she sells? >> well, there is always power in that message, because so many people obviously are not part of the elite so it's an easy strong man. but i don't know what she's talking about. you know, washington not working has nothing to do with how much money you make or how long you have been there, it's how effective you are. you know, we don't think she's
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qualified because she thinks that mice have human brains. and other statements like that. she wonders why you can't look at a monkey and see him evolve before your very eyes. this has nothing to do with how much money you make or where you went to school. maybe it has to do with if you went to school. because if you went to any kind of school, i would assume that they would teach you that those things don't exist in the real world. >> let's move off from christine o'donnell, there's a big story in washington gined up by bob woodward being here last night. i want to illustrate this point from your program on friday night, it's clear that you think the president does have a bit of an issue with women voters and you used a little bill maher as barry white to make the point. >> as many times we have loved
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and shared love and made love. you need more stimulus. slow down, girl, i need time to treat you right. barry is not one of those wham, bam, one term loves, he's just getting warmed up. appointing two women to the supreme court? don't tell me that didn't feel delicious. and health care? how can legislation so bad feel so good? >> i'm not exactly sure where to go with that so i'll just leave to it you. >> i wish i did a better barry white impression. but we couldn't resist, and, yes, that really came out of the town hall meeting president

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