>> larry: tonight, exclusive, roman polanski's accuser breaks her silence. her first interview since his arrest in switzerland. what may be her last comments ever about the rape scandal still making headlines three decades after the case first shocked the world. samantha geimer is here. tells us in her own words what really happened when she was 13 and what she wants polanski to do now and if she'd ever testify against the man who's been a fugitive from justice for over 30 years. it's next on "larry king live."

>> larry: good evening. samantha geimer is kind enough to join us about a case that's more than 30 years old but still manages to make news and with us exclusively tonight. larry silver is her attorney. he is also aboard. it caused a sensation coming to light all those years ago. roman polanski, the acclaimed director, fresh off a triumph with "chinatown" had been the tragic deathly scene of sharon tate. murdered by members of the manson family in 1969. and here is what brought us to today. watch. >> in march of 1977, roman polanski was arrested for raping then 13-year-old samantha geimer at the home of jack nicholson and accused of drugging her.

in a deal with the state, the director agreed to plead guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse or statutory rape. he spent 42 days in prison as part of a psychiatric evaluation ordered by the court. the day before he was scheduled to be sentenced he fled to france where he is protected from extra diction. that was in february of 1978. >> i indicated in court that i do not believe he is in the united states. >> larry: since then, the original charges reinstated and is ubt to arrest. in other words, polanski is a fugitive, a wanted man in the united states and other countries. in 1997, geimer publicly fraif polanski and asked all charges against him be dropped. they were not. the case took a new and unexpected turn in 1999. he was taken into custody by swiss authorities on the decades-old rape washt. he spent ten months in prison

and under house arrest while the united states and switzerland negotiated his return to america. he was released after the swiss refused to hand him over. today, roman polanski is a free man as long as he doesn't set foot in this country or the others which still recognize him as a fugitive. we asked roman polanski for a comment about all of this and we are told that mr. polanski does not wish to comment at this time. he has an open invitation to appear on this program at any time. we also asked the los angeles district attorney's office for a comment. we're told that they refused to comment on any ongoing case. we welcome to "larry king live" samantha geimer, roman polanski's victim. this is her first interview since polanski was arrested in switzerland in september of 2009 and her attorney larry silver. how did you learn he was detained in switzerland? >> a friend called me and woke me up.

i was traveling. and a good friend of mine who was on east coast time rang my phone and got me out of bed to tell me the news to warn me of what, you know, who knew what was going on to happen? >> larry: you knew what was going to happen. >> i thought i knew what was going to happen but it was far worse than even my imagination. >> larry: in what regard? >> well, i called home. i said for the sons don't answer the phone. just unplug it. what i didn't expect was a call from them the next day saying that we have reporters on the property. they're in the driveway. they're in the backyard. they're parked out front. they won't leave. i didn't expect that. i thought phone calls maybe. >> larry: what did you think when you heard that the swiss had taken him? >> i was surprised. i was shocked. i was just terrified. i knew something bad was going to happen.

i just didn't know what it was going to be but i knew it could only be bad for me. >> larry: why do they still, do you think -- you said you forgive him and want it to go away. why doesn't it just go away? >> i guess it doesn't go away because the court case is unresolved. and it also doesn't go away because of his celebrity. and that seems to be a driving force, you know, that's interesting to people or useful to people. his celebrity. >> larry: larry, i could put it directly. why does samantha need a lawyer? >> well, at the time, she needed a lawyer because the prosecution was interested in getting a conviction, defense obviously was interested in protecting polanski and given the intensity of the public interest at the time, her rights were not being adequately protected. for example, they wanted to take

a mental examination because polanski took the position initially she fantasized. there was no mental examination. >> larry: you have been her lawyer all this time? >> going on 34 years. >> larry: you were 13. how did you find larry? >> i was 13. my father was a criminal defense attorney in pennsylvania. >> larry: still living? >> no. he is not. he passed an i way about 15 years ago. he found us larry. i don't know how but he found him for us. >> larry: does she need a lawyer today? >> probably more than ever. the recent events in terms of the swiss attempted extradition, there are a lot of, for example, the papers released private stuff that was not previously released. her rights as a victim were not

honored in effect by the district attorney's office and i appeared before the court below as well as the court of appeals to see that victims' rights were at least honored. >> larry: does the los angeles district attorney's office stay in touch with you? >> no. >> larry: but they will if he were brought here. right? would she have to testify? >> well, she'd have to want to testify and -- she doesn't live in los angeles so i guess it would be some issue as to whether or not they could subpoena her. >> larry: as to whether or not they could subpoena her. where do you live? >> i live in hawaii. >> larry: okay. are you happy that switzerland did not extradite him? >> yes. very relieved. >> larry: why? >> well, if just the arrest brought such a ruckus into my life and backyard in a literal sense, there's people in the backyard, i'm sure his coming back would just be a thousand times worse, so i'm very happy

that, you know, i think they did the right thing. i don't want to see him go to trial and i don't want to show up and be part of that if it happens. >> you know, from the day that he was arrested in switzerland for the next two weeks between samantha and i, we got 500 calls from press, people came to my house. people came to my office with checks. wanting me -- >> larry: for what? >> they want add interview with samantha. what do you think about the arrest in switzerland? nibble to checkbook journalism. >> larry: why not take it? >> just not for sale. >> larry: why not take it, samantha? >> my experiences when people want you to pay you they want you to say what they want you to say not the things you say over and over. >> larry: you think people want you to go to court and try to put him away? >> i know certain people want that. >> larry: like? >> well, like the district attorney's office. or i don't know. perhaps other people. >> larry: it's a different d.a. now, right? >> yeah.

>> larry: lots to talk about with samantha geimer and her attorney larry silver. stick around.

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all right. you're trying to avoid this. everybody's bombarding you. it's obvious. why are you here? >> oh, i'm here because you asked me. >> larry: others have asked you. >> well, yes. i don't seek out the publicity but it's really hard to avoid. generally, it's easier just to talk to people and give them their answers and then they lose interest and it is not -- generally, it is not a big problem except for when he got arrested. >> larry: you think you put a cap on it? >> we call it the larry king pill. the interest goes away. >> larry: that's happened on other cases, as well. i don't know if it's good or bad. if she were subpoenaed, she would have to testify, wouldn't she? >> that is correct. >> larry: if the incident happened, she didn't deny it. she has to be truthful, right? >> absolutely. >> larry: why are you so forgiving? why don't you want to see him put away? he raped you. >> i don't feel i'm particularly forgiving. i suppose i'm a pretty forgiving person.

he served her time. he did everything he was asked to do. and we had a corrupt judge who was being dishonest. he had no reason to trust the system to work for him. i'm so much more damaged by the court system and the media than by him. >> larry: really? >> really. it is like so much more damaged by the court system and we the media than by him. it is easy to forgive him. there's other people i probably don't forgive as much. >> larry: before we go back to that time, was there a deal made? a plea deal. was the judge about to break that deal? larry? >> yes, yes. >> larry: what was the deal? >> well, the deal was and it was done primarily to avoid a trial. i mean, o.j. sort of set the standard but prior to that it was the polanski case. this was not a place for a 13-year-old girl and i made that point pretty strongly to the

district attorney's office and ultimately -- >> larry: you didn't want her to testify? >> wasn't so much testifying. it was the focus, her anonymity at the time and fought to keep that for years but it was the focus of a 13-year-old girl discussing these rather sorry events in a trial subject to cross-examination. it just wasn't a good thing for her. >> larry: so what was the deal? >> the deal was that polanski pleads guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse known at the time of statutory rape and other charges dismissed. it was the only charge that did not involve an automatic deportation and that -- >> larry: he is a polish citizen? >> i think he is a french citizen now. >> larry: french citizen. >> but then what was to happen, the judge said he was going to sentence him to a psychiatric examination. both the defendant and the plaintiffs or the prosecution's lawyer in the chambers said you can't use that as punishment.

i guess he didn't care. supposed to go to chino for a psychiatric examination and when he was done with that he was supposed to be over and that was it. and then, later -- >> larry: going to get no time, no jail time, nothing? >> larrying no f >> yes. i think when samantha saids that the court system -- had he not done -- >> larry: the judge is dead now, right? >> i'm told. he had not done what he did, then polanski would have pled guilty. the case would have been over and we would have never have met and, frankly, the interest in samantha and interest in the case would have gone away but because the judge did what he did which was highly improper, having communications with a member of the district attorney outside of the presence of other counsel, we're here and we're

here in large part because it started out as a large sex scandal. it is now both a sex scandal and a scandal involving the judiciary. >> larry: so polanski ran because he thought he was going to be put away? >> right. he was coming back to -- i mean, he did 42 days. i think judge wanted him to do 90 and he was upset he did 42 and determined that he was mentally sound and not a -- there's word for that. >> sex offender. >> that one. so he is not a predator or a pedophile. they let him out in 42 days. judge ritenband wanted 90 and said i'll sentence you to an undeterminant amount of time and then time served after 42 days. so who's going to believe that? >> larry: he didn't believe it? >> well -- >> in the movie polanski wanted -- apparently -- i didn't hear this but according to the movie,

roger gunson said to dalton, well, should i trust the judge? and gunson said, well, you did the last time. clear implication was he backed away what he said the last time. you want to try it again. had the judge not done what he promised to do, polanski could have served 50 years. >> larry: more of our exclusive interview with samantha geimer and attorney larry silver. we'll go back to 1978 when we come back. to everyone who wants to go to college and everyone who started college but never finished... to late bloomers... full-time moms... and everyone who is good at something but wants to be great. welcome to kaplan university. the university that's changing the face of education... to undergraduate degrees, graduate degrees... degrees that can give you a leg up... in a tough job market...

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it was awful. everybody knew at school. people came to school with cameras and things were being said and printed. the worst part was no one believed me. everybody thought i was making it up. >> larry: let's go back to 1977. we said '78. it is 1977. you are 13 years old? >> yes. >> larry: your mother had met polanski socially. how did -- you modeled for him, right? >> right. >> larry: why was he looking at a mod snell. >> he wanted a young american model. he had done i believe natasha kinski and looking at an

american for a contrast. >> larry: a model for what? >> a french magazine. >> larry: he also did that, too? i mean -- >> apparently. >> larry: because he was a movie director. >> right. i mean, he did photograph natasha. >> larry: how did you come to get to jack nicholson's house? >> that was where the photo shoot was going to be so -- >> larry: did your mother go along? >> she wanted to. but he said no because i wouldn't be natural. >> larry: was he the photographer? >> yeah. >> larry: who was there when you got there? >> i think the housekeeper but i know she was there but i don't remember meeting her. >> larry: without getting too graphic, what happened? >> well, we took pictures and, you know, drank some champagne and -- >> larry: you're 13 and serving your champagne? >> yes. but it was 1977. i think i might have on new year's. so there was pictures and time

passed and everything seemed fine but then as the evening got to the very end, things suddenly took a turn in a bad direction and i realized that to my surprise he seemed to be interested in, you know, more than i thought. i was quite shocked. >> larry: did you protest? >> you know, a little. just -- >> larry: not a lot? >> not a lot. i was scared. i had drinking. i was alone so i, you know? >> she made up a -- >> i didn't know how to handle it. >> she made up a fake asthma illness. >> yes. my -- i said i had asthma. i don't know why. to get out of the hot tub. >> larry: i think we have pictures he took of you. they have been seen. right? >> i don't know. >> larry: i think we do. >> i think so. >> larry: here's some of the photos polanski took of you. >> those my mom took. >> larry: what was going through your mind? >> it all seemed very positional. i felt like i wasn't doing a great job and not taking

direction very well. i was like a little over my head. he was, you know, he was just giving direction and i remember just thinking i don't know if i'm pulling this off or not and it was all very professional. until all of a sudden it wasn't. >> larry: now, you did two shoots, right? >> yep. >> larry: was this occurring on the second one? >> this was the second one. >> larry: so the first one went fine? >> the first one went fine. >> larry: nothing happened? >> well, the first one went fine and for some reason i let him photograph me topless and then i didn't tell my mom and i don't know why. i don't know why i let him do it. i don't know why i didn't tell my mom. i didn't think there would be a second photo shoot. i was really surprised. >> larry: champagne the first time? >> no. that was just like a time. >> larry: how much time interval between? >> a few weeks. >> larry: you went back innocently because? >> i wanted to be a movie star. that was my big break. i thought this is an important job for me. >> larry: you wanted to be in movies? >> yes. >> larry: this is a famous director?

>> this is an opportunity and a big one and i knew it. >> larry: it was the second time? did he get rough? >> no. he was just persuasive. i was at a complete loss to resist because i just -- people didn't talk about things like this in 1977. you didn't get advice on, you know, don't let adults do this. it was like cancer. you didn't mention it. i was completely unprepared. >> larry: she is 13, larry. if she doesn't protest, is it still rape? >> oh, sure. she is under 16 an and provided her with an illegal narcotic. he provided her with alcohol. all of these things in california, deprived somebody of the ability to say no and considered a va i ryety of additional things. yes, it's rape, rape by force. rape by use of drugs. >> larry: more after this. [ advisor 1 ] what do you see yourself doing one week,

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>> i don't know. they were friends. he wasn't home. it was a pretty spot. >> larry: angelica houston, they were dating. she comes home. what did she see? >> nothing. but i think she was disturbed that he was there with a girl in the bedroom. i don't think she was pleased to find him there when she came home. >> larry: were you obviously 13? >> she never got a look at me. i kind of left quickly without really saying hello to her. she never saw me. >> larry: polanski's wife had been killed. how long before this? >> i don't know. >> larry: do you know? >> four or five years i believe. >> that's all? >> larry: i knew sharon tate. she was a hell of a girl. he drove you home, right? >> uh-huh. >> >> larry: anything said? >> he suggested i should not tell my mom. he showed some concern. ask if i was okay.

i was like, good, we're going home and then i was glad to be going home. >> larry: honestly, was this your first experience? >> no. >> larry: you'd had sex before that? >> i had a boyfriend before that a long time and became sexually active before that. >> larry: 13? >> i was almost 14 and within weeks but yes. >> larry: so therefore was there a lot of pain involved or no? >> no, no. nothing like that. >> larry: it was just intercourse? >> intercourse. >> larry: you were 13? >> i was scared. >> larry: who knew? >> i called my friend, an ex-boyfriend and close friend and told him what happened and i don't know why. i think, you know, still under the affects of the drugs and the drinking. i just think i needed to say it out loud. and my sister overheard me outside from -- >> larry: how old was she? >> she would have been 20, 19, 20. and she heard what i said and immediately went and told my mom. >> larry: your mom did what?

>> my mom freaked out. a lot of -- i was -- i was kind of just -- i stayed in my room and there was a lot of stress and freaking out going on and eventually within a half hour she decided to call the police. there was a lot of -- what do we do? that seems to be the only option. >> larry: police question you? >> yes. >> larry: and then arrest him? >> right. they questioned me and there's hospitals and going to the district attorney's office and -- >> larry: examine you? >> yeah. like at the hospital the way they usually do i guess. they found evidence in his room and after that he was arrested. >> larry: when did you come into the case, larry? >> as samantha said, her father was a criminal defense lawyer in pennsylvania and i practiced law in pennsylvania. and so, he called me and retained me just for the purpose of trying to stop this mental examination. and after that, was stopped, then there was other issues and finally it was just constant

representation. >> larry: at the time, were you prepared to go to the wall? were you prepared to testify? were you prepared to take action against him? >> no. i wished that nobody had ever called the police because it was just -- it was just so horrible and it was like, gosh, one bad thing happens to me and now like adult after adult is just putting me through it like it never stopped. i was horrible to everybody. including larry. >> larry: including larry? >> my beloved attorney of 34 years. i was so angry and so tired. how can -- how can it be right to put me through all this examination and -- >> larry: was it weird that a lot of people blamed you? >> yeah. it was. >> larry: how did that happen? how do you blame a 13-year-old? >> i guess in the '70s it's a different media spin on it. >> larry: acre at your mother? >> oh, right. how we set him up and blackmail him and we just had this scheme and -- just incredible to be blamed for all that and it was like, god, i didn't even do anything.

wrong place, wrong time and now my whole family, my life, everything's just falling to pieces. >> larry: did you hate him? >> no. not even -- not even when he denied it. they were like he's going to go to prison. no wonder he's denying it. >> larry: did you in a way like him? an i no. he wasn't -- he wasn't -- i mean, i don't know now him now but he wasn't likable or very nice, you know. he was -- he was all right but i didn't really like it him. >> larry: we'll be back with more after this. ♪ [ man ] i thought our family business would always be boots.

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>> larry: we hope we're putting all of this away tonight with samantha geimer and larry silver. on the day before his sentencing, polanski fled the country. let's watch what his lawyer said to the media. >> he did call me this morning at my home and he told me he would not be here. i -- i asked him to call me again because i wanted to discuss this with him further and attempt to persuade him to return. he said he would call me again. >> is there more on the arrest? >> there's a bench warrant issued by the judge. >> what does that mean? >> i can't discuss that. i indicated in court i do not believe he is in the united states. >> larry: larry, were you surprised he left the country? >> yes. i was surprised that by the day before and what the judge said in chambers. but i was -- i was surprised that morning in court.

i've learned about it in the courtroom just like everybody else. >> larry: were you surprised, samantha? >> i don't think people were keeping me up to date on a day-to-day basis on what was happening but i wasn't -- i guess i was surprised. i was mostly relieved. >> larry: mike wallace, my dear friend, interviewed roman polanski on "60 minutes" about why he fled the country. here's what he said. >> you ran away, roman. you ran away. >> well, i -- as you say, ran away because i think that i was very unfortunate to have a judge who misused justice. >> larry: you know, there are still people to this day, samantha, who have a strong amount of dislike for roman polanski. in america. >> yes, i know. >> larry: because he took advantage of it, you, a 13-year-old. so there are many whom might be surprised at your attitude. he changed your whole life,

didn't he? his life was never the same. >> he didn't mean to change my whole life. >> larry: he raped you. >> yeah. and in effect my whole life changed after that. but i think people don't like him because they don't like him and i'm an excuse not to like him. >> larry: do you watch his movies? >> no, not really. i'm not big on drama so nothing personal. i just haven't seen. >> larry: what do you think of him, larry? >> well, i do think that "chitown" is one of the finest films ever done but it's problematic in terms of some of the things that have happened. i mean, i think that some of his comments have been untoward and in the media but nevertheless i still think that -- and i said it here before. that when he left the united states, i think it was a sad day for american justice. i can understand why he did it. ritenband announced the day before he wouldn't live up to

the deal but it would have been better had the judge been more appropriate. >> larry: what do you think would have happened if he stayed? >> had he stayed? well, the judge said to us that he'd been receiving a lot of hostile comments from the press about his plan which he apparently had shared with them and so he wanted to give the appearance of being very tough and then suggested that dalton and roger gunson come in when there would be no notice to anybody and he would then sentence him to the remainder of the 90 days. i don't think that that would have happened and i think polanski didn't believe it would happen either. >> larry: you think he would have gotten more time? >> i don't think that the hearing would ever have happened. >> larry: and all this time, would you -- did you go back to school? >> yeah. you know, i was only in ninth grade so went to school. got married.

had kids. >> larry: still married? >> still married. my husband's operations manager. we work for a gentleman with a lot of property so -- we both work for him. >> larry: how does he feel about this? >> he wishes he could do something to ease it somehow. it's frustrating for him. he sees me and my mother and -- >> larry: how long are you married now? >> 21 years. >> larry: by the way, we'll be right back with more of this. "parker spitzer" airs every night at 8:00 eastern on cnn right before this show. here's a little of what kathleen and eliot have been talking about this week. watch. >> i think left and the media making a huge mistake and christine o'donnell is the greatest decoy in american politics. while firing artillery at her, sharron angle is beating reid in two polls. nikki haley will be the governor of south carolina. susanna martinez is up now in

new mexico by eight. these mama grizzlies, these women candidates who are attractive and tough and smart and able are going to win from coast to coast and christine o'donnell may surprise some people and win, too. >> larry: we'll be back with samantha geimer and her attorney. we'll talk about hollywood's support of polanski next.

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once we knew her name, we knew where her school was. we knew where her house was. the french competition go after this girl. they were hunting this girl. >> larry: she could have made lot of money, couldn't she, larry? >> could have. >> larry: they offer you to write a book? >> everybody says that. i don't know why. everybody says -- >> larry: don't know why? >> everybody says that to me so

first thing usually somebody will go, oh, that's you. you should write a book. you can make a loft money. >> larry: never thought about it. >> i did because people say it. it's difficult for my family so i'm all good -- >> larry: hollywood community pretty much generally supported him, right? >> some people have. i mean, they should. he has friends. they're allowed to support him. >> larry: jack nicholson spoking on it? >> i don't think so. i don't know but i don't think so. >> larry: larry, do you have an opinion on that? >> well, i think that there's a lot of support for polanski because it is clear that the judicial system was corrupt in terms of dealing with him. and that there really was no way out. the suggestion that he could have appealed i just don't think it would have happened. >> larry: but that overrides what he did? >> clearly not. i mean, what polanski did on the night of march 10th is -- was

criminal and should have been dealt with seriously. but to some extent, not because he was a celebrity and got special treatment but because his celebrity attracted so much attention that was going to harm samantha. i would rather protect her than harm him. >> i take offense, though. i think our justice system is more important than any one criminal or any one crime so i take offense that the justice system can be so easily used for somebody's own purpose. >> larry: did you sue him civilly? >> uh-huh. >> larry: did you get a settlement? >> there was a settlement. >> larry: what can you tell us? >> very cautious. >> first of all, the lawsuit occurred many years after the event occurred and was triggered by polanski publication of a book which samantha thought was an attempt to exploit the events for money.

and there was a civil suit. there was a settlement of the civil suit. mr. polanski breached the settlement. >> larry: how? didn't pay? >> that's usually how a defendant breaches a settlement. >> larry: how were you able to get -- have a case? >> pardon? >> larry: how could you have a civil case? >> well, we served him with papers and he -- >> larry: in france? >> yes. and which isn't particularly hard. he was permitted by the courts to appear and defend in the action though i tried to stop that. >> larry: did he ever pay the settlement? >> he never voluntarily paid, no. >> larry: you had to attach something? >> yes. >> larry: you hesitant to tell us? >> no, no, no. it was -- after he breached the agreement, there was provision by which i could go into court for what was known as a stipulated judgment. we got a judgment and attempted to execute but polanski never complied with anything in the agreement, frankly.

>> larry: are you bitter about that? >> not really. i mean -- >> larry: you are amazing. >> well, you know -- >> bad karma. >> put the shoe on the other foot. >> larry: i guess it would be different. >> i mean, you know, i'm just -- what would be the point of being bitter? that's not going to help me. >> larry: you have an amazing outlook. we'll be back with more after this. [ female announcer ] evyear mlionof ams face disas adof hope"program, a free lndry service that provides clean ots woman it feels sgow th i've got clea you don't know hove benals are

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>> larry: he supposed to be starting a new film. does it bother you? that he continues to be as successful? >> does not bother me at all. i hope he continues to be successful and we wish nothing for the best for him and his family. i like to see him get time served and we could both stop being used to continue this

matter. >> larry: could sentence him to time served and excuse him and bring it back? >> that was attempted and that was agreed to by the then district attorney and a different yeah. >> larry: and the current district attorney wants extradited? >> yes. >> larry: and tried? >> i am not entirely sure what they want to do but they want to sentence him to more time in 90 days. could there possibly be a trial? >> under some circumstances, if he claims that that was not agree to and was not performed, then he was permitted to withdraw his guilty plea and demand trial. is unlikely he would do that. >> larry: each week we're calling on friends of cnn heroes to tell us more about our top ten finalists. honorees selected by a blue ribbon panel. here's an nba star with one of their incredible stories. watch. >> hello.

as 2007 cnn hero's blue ribbon committee, the everyday people who are changing the world. as the founder of the foundation, which works to improve the health, education and quality of life in my homeland if congo. now i'm thrilled to help cnn introduce one of this year's top ten honorees. >> what strikes me about this place is the beauty and the feeling of being insignificant. the beauty of this place also becomes dangerous because of these mountains when it rains. i've worked all over kenya. everybody community has the same story of people drowning. crocodiles and hippos and loved ones lost. i saw how this could transform

communities and i love what i do. my name is harmon parker, and i build bridges to transform people's lives. the community has to initiate the project. they had to participate and make some sort of financial contribution. it's hard, and it takes a lot of determination. >> get it, get it! >> the bridge is a beautiful metaphor for many things. i feel privileged to do what i'm doing. >> larry: to meet all top ten cnn heroes and vote for the one who inspires you the most, just go to cnn.com/heroes. all ten will be honored thanksgiving night when anderson cooper hosts cnn heroes. at's he? it's speedy alka-seltzer! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief for all-over achy colds.

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>> he didn't perceive having intercourse with a 13-year-old girl is against the law. >> the fact of polanski leaving the country eclipsed what happened to the system of justice. >> he didn't care about what happened to me, and he didn't care about what happened to polanski. >> why are people still so fascinated with this, do you think? >> i don't know. it's just his celebrity and the sex makes people interested, whereas i can -- you know, scream all day about injustice and our justice system and how

the rule of law -- and that just doesn't seem to sell. no one cares. >> larry: shocked you're not doing the screaming. >> it's odd that i end up being the person left here trying to make the noise about what happened. >> larry: how about a critic who says this sends a wrong message. forget roman polanski. you are in essence forgiving a child rapist. >> i think that at the time certainly that would have been appropriate. but after years of, after years pass, i'm actually quite an admirer of samantha for being able to say, if i continue with this hate or dislike, it just adds to the controversy, and what she would like to do is end it. and it can't be ended until the criminal case is ended, and it

appears now never going to happen. >> larry: why does this district attorney want it to continue? >> have you to ask him. >> larry: what does he tell you? >> this is not a conversation that i have with the district attorney. in fact, i'm -- our views had parted ways. we thought that the victim's bill of rights which people adopted in california would have given samantha certain rights to move to dismiss, it was denied on the grounds he was a fugitive. so we moved to dismiss but the court wouldn't hear it. >> larry: do you think he'll ever come back? >> i doubt it. i don't think it matters. i think what matters is that justice gets done and somebody does the right thing, which is the unpopular thing, and gives him time served. and i don't think forgiving him does any disservice to any victim if people want to protect children, then right now there are children being trafficked on -- online, in classified ads, they should do something about things happening now.

going after roman polanski doesn't protect anybody. it distracts from more important things. >> larry: are there ever moments, you were a mature 13-year-old, when you blamed yourself? >> i never blamed myself but i didn't feel i made the smartest choices that day. looking back it would have been wise to do things differently. but i was only 13, so -- >> larry: do you think he'll ever come back? >> i don't think so. he doesn't want to. but i'd like to see justice be done and he can come or go as he pleases. >> larry: did he ever try to call you, talk to you? >> i never talked to him. he actually wrote a note and apologized to myself and my mother and specifically said, it's not my mother's fault, it was his fault, and just wished that i enjoy my family as he enjoys his and he's sorry for everything we've both been through all these long years. >> larry: thank you both. thank you both very much. >> thank you for having us. >> larry: samantha geimer and her attorney.