>> larry: thank you both. thank you both very much. >> thank you for having us. >> larry: samantha geimer and her attorney. john lennon would be 70 years old saturday if he lived. ringo starr and more will be here tomorrow night. right now here's anderson cooper. good evening. i'm kathleen parker. >> i'm eliot spitzer. welcome to the program. tonight we begin with aex collusively. cnn's jim acosta with the first interview with christine o don't knell running for the senate seat in delaware. the first interview in quite sometime. >> o'donnell famously known for having dabbled in witchcraft as a much younger woman and jim acosta asked her about that, sarah palin, obama care, you name it. let's take a look.

>> your latest ad says i'm you. >> right. >> it's as if you're trying to reintroduce yourself to voters. >> yes, yes. >> why is that? is that what you're trying to do? >> absolutely. my goal has been since the primary to meet as many voters as possible so they get to know me, i get to know them. i have to hear what's on their minds to know how i can help in washington, d.c. my goal, my candidacy is about putting the political process back into the hands of the people. i'm not a career politician. i'm not someone who's been groomed for office. i'm not someone who's been hand picked by her party elite, by the party bosses. obviously. >> right. >> i'm an average american citizen. i'm an average delawarian. i want to do what most from this state would do. i would not have voted for obama care and the bailouts. i would not voted for more of the spending bills putting us into bankruptcy and neither would you. >> right.

>> that's my message i'm you is. >> one more thing about these video clips that surfaced. have you been embarrassed by those clips? >> no. i haven't been embarrassed. i'm not saying i'm proud. they're trying to paint a picture of who i was 20 years ago. you know, i've matured in my faith. i've matured in my policies. today, you have a 40-something woman running for office. not a 20-year-old. so that's a big difference. >> you said last night at your event that you would vote to extend the bush tax cuts. now, i've covered a lot of tea party rallies and they're all about cutting the deficit. how do you extend the bush tax cuts and cut the deficit? experts say it is impossible. >> it is not impossible. any time taxes decreased, revenue increased because you are putting money back into the private citizens who then go

start businesses and create jobs based on the private sector, not government spending. they go spend that money on those new businesses that are starting. so it happened under kennedy and reagan. when you decrease taxes, revenues increase. >> should creationism be taught in public schools? >> that doesn't have anything to do with what i will do in congress. >> do you think it should be taught in public schools? >> nothing to do what i would do in congress. my opinion on that is irrelevant. >> let me ask you about afghanistan. the president's timetable for withdrawal, good or bad idea? >> we need to make the foreign policy decisions based on effectiveness and not time. we need to look at what's going on over there and before we make any decisions we need to examine whether or not it's weakening our own security. >> is sarah palin qualified to be president? >> is she running for president? >> i don't know. you tell me. >> well, again, hypotheticals. i don't know if she's -- >> does she advise your campaign? >> she does not. >> give you advice?

>> she gives you "you go girl" advice. don't listen to them. >> looking at the substance of this, a lot of people say, you know what, we are not so sure she's ready for the senate. >> i feel for the girl a little bit. she was a sweet girl on the bill maher show, 20 years old and if you look at those tames she had a lot of personality, spunky and cute and she was just saying things i don't think she intended to be taken terribly seriously. now it's taken on a life of its own. >> not only unfair to her and accurate. i defended her with the crazy ad i'm not a witch. but then when you step back and as you get closer to november 2nd and say, wait a minute, there's serious issues here. >> well, sure. >> i don't think she passes that threshold. >> there are people cute and spunky i don't want running the country. >> good tv fodder. here's the other question, why so many folks like her who seem to be taking over the republican party? i mean, this is not bob dole's republican party anymore. thoughtful, serious people.

these are people, i hate to say it, kind of from the fringe. >> careful there, eliot. you know, what we have to be cautious of here and this is an important point you almost hit. there's a sense out there, we have talked about this. there's a sense of elite core of people who are designated themselves as in charge of how americans are going to live their lives and you have people like christine o'donnell and others who identify with her and feel left out of the conversation and marginalized and we talked about the anti-elite movement and we are in favor of elites at the table meaning smart people and you can't be elitist and that's what they have responded to. >> not only sympathetic but i agree with the core notion which is that the so-called elite people in this country, in washington, in new york, in the so-called academic centers have

failed us miserably over the last decade and when she says in the ad i am you. when she says in the interview today, i am an average person, i say, yes. i sympathize with that. we want real, genuine people. there's a difference between that and i think that is wonderful and that's why i have defended the ads and that sort of notion of her getting into politics but there's a difference between the that and policies about economics and other serious things that don't work and don't add up. >> right. that ad was done by fred davis as you know and he's a brilliant ad maker and he kind of latched on to that side. you need to look in the cameras i'm going to fix things for you that's an effective message. resonating with the tea party people. >> it amazing the democratic party did not fill that chasm, that void in the middle of the political, that doughnut hole and nobody from the democratic party said we are the ones that speak with that voice and with that empathy and that energy.

bill clinton, as we have all been saying, would have done it. we'll talk about these ideas with extraordinarily smart people. time to go into the arena. >> smart but not elitist. >> absolutely. >> joining us tonight, james traub and ralph reid. >> welcome to both of you. great to see you back. >> nice to see you again. nice to see you. >> ralph. >> welcome, welcome. >> cnn broke the spell and we got this remarkable interview. jim acosta of cnn with christine o'donnell. she came in on the broom stick and gave an interview. she said she wants to -- the republican tea party candidate for the united states senate of delaware and she said we are going to extend our should extend the bush tax cuts to both solve the deficit problem and help our economy expand. >> grow the economy. >> what do you think? >> what's wrong with that? that is the official tea party position, isn't it? >> you have been cast under the

spell, as well? >> no. i mean, look. it's become, i think, republican party doctrine not only in the tea party that the bush tax cuts should be extended. this is a version of a ridiculous view in the first place but that's the direction the party is going in right now. >> ralph, she was not prepared for the interview and been saving herself for fox news and others, not meaning to go into the other news outlets. what do you think of her handling of that interview and that comment? >> well, i think she's doing fine. you know? i mean, she's obviously under vicious assault. i'm fascinated by the media's fixation with this woman. there's 37 governorships up or something like that. 37 u.s. senate races and everybody beating up on this one woman in one state and i understand that. >> but ralph -- >> it's politics but to say that lowering marginal tax rates produces more revenue is not only economically sound, it is

an established historic fact. >> well -- >> i mean -- >> can we probe that for a minute. >> before you get to the economic issue, the reason people are fascinated with her is because she is fascinating. when you have someone stand up and say, i'm not a witch, i'm you and it's got this black, you know -- >> well, but that ad followed a pillering of weeks. >> bill maher started that. >> let's be frank with one another. you have been in politics. i have been in politics. neither one is surprised she get it is attention. she is made herself a quick and interesting person. put that aside for a minute. david stockman who was the budget director for president reagan after he came into office on the same theory, the laughter curve as it was called for many different reasons said it was all a sham and said we knew it was a sham. no serious economists believes that you can cut rates the way

they want to without expanding the deficit, doubling it or tripling it and damaging the economy. >> look. we would pine for the roughly $160 billion deficit bush had in the final fiscal year. okay? this president has given us a deficit which in the first year $1.4 trillion and this year is $1.35 trillion. he's doubling the national debt in five years. he's tripling it in ten years. and they left town without even giving america's 26 million small businesses and hundred million households any understanding of their taxes to be in the calendar year 2011. it is totally irresponsible and that's why they're losing at the polls. >> the spin of this fiscal recklessness, this is small. the obama administration agreed, i think wrongly, to extend the bush tax cuts save for the top tax rate and --

>> $700 billion over 10 years. >> which alas is not as much money as it used to be but the idea to be having this political pitched battle not over the large question of do you repeal the bush tax cuts but do you repeal the tax cuts for the smallest number of extraordinarily wealthy people to whom a huge fraction of the additional revenue of ten years is gone, i can't believe that it's a fight about that. >> if you had both ends of pennsylvania avenue for two years, the president and the house and the senate, the largest margins since the great society, at any point in the last two years they could have extended the bush tax cuts for everybody making less than $250,000 a year. they didn't do it. >> set the table so it's real. what was inherited here is an economic cataclysm the likes of which we haven't seen since 1929, a consequence of policies in the reagan administration and in the bush administrations both of them and that is what brought

us down. recovering from that which the obama administration has been desperately trying to do is what's taken us to the point of the precipice. >> not true. >> and then to go back to the same policies would be economic suicide. >> eliot, it was the clinton administration in 1999 that directed fannie mae and freddie mac to underwrite 50% or more of the loans in every single zip code in america for people at 50% or below the average income in that area. they deliberately made them by executive order fiat underwrite loans for people that couldn't make the payments. >> why are we so interested in her? we have to remember she beat michael castle. >> there is that. >> the entire professional republican party, not the whole party but the professional party was banking on this guy as -- this is how we'll get to a majority republican senate. nobody thought this was going to happen. she became a poster child and i think rightly so whether you like her or not for the immense

transformation inside the republican party. >> that's right. >> i think the left and the media making a huge mistake she is the greater decoy in american politics. while they're firing the artillery at her, sharron angle is beating harry reid in two polls this week. nikki haley going to be the governor of south carolina. susanna martinez up in new mexico by eight. these mama grizzlies, these women candidates who are attractive and tough and smart and able are going to win from coast to coast and christine o'donnell may surprise some people and win, to. >> i don't deny that. that may be so. >> when people gang up on an individual like christine o'donnell, it has the opposite effect and sympathy for her. >> hasn't so far. the last poll showed her doing quite badly behind coons, the democratic candidate. she may be a casualty but ralph may well be right about the trend she is a representative

of. >> yeah. >> look. there is no question when you offer candy to kids sometimes it works. the question is, having lived through the reagan administration with david stockman i think being the most honest articulator of the policies, we know what it does and now, of course, we have that on steroids. the numbers are that much bigger, the economy is at much greater risk and the failure to recovery balance the budgets is going to take us to a very dangerous point. and i think that's why many of us saying, look, christine o'donnell, i like her and admire her and how she is handling it but the substance is going to be very damaging to us long term because it doesn't add up. >> what doesn't add up is raising taxes in the middle of the deepest and longest recession in the post world war ii period. punishing small businesses between 50% and 60% of the income to tax at the above quarter of a million dollar level are small businesses creating 80% of the jobs and here's the other thing.

even if you were to take jim's argument and repeal all of the bush tax cuts, you've got a $1.35 trillion deficit. you would save $100 billion this year. so you're punishing the job creators. you're punishing the people creating the jobs and you're moving the deficit number a small amount. it is a crazy economic theory and why it's going down the tubes. >> so michael castle-christine o'donnell issue. michael castle thought about this stuff a lot. you may think he's right or wrong and also strikes me a kind of war on competence and professionalism going on here and these insurgent candidates, one of the biggest things to advertise is they have never done it before and sometimes they don't know anything about the subject that makes them preferable. i find that disturbing. >> mike castle voted for the

bush tax cuts as a member of the house. was he nut, too? >> no. of course not. that's not my point at all. >> what about the democrats that said they would not vote for extending the tax cuts only to those making under $250,000? >> i don't think you have to be -- >> caucus. apparently people in your own party, eliot, that you think are nuts. >> no. i think anybody that buys this economic theory has not studied economics. >> 37 democrats in the house. >> has not studied our history and in fact -- >> economics. >> and in fact -- >> so that's the strategy. >> we're not insulting them. what we're saying, ralph -- >> they're dumb. >> you're trying to put words in my mouth. the historical reference that we look at from the bush presidency is one where these tax cuts without corresponding cuts in spending which we had dick armey sitting here the other day and he said he would cut national endowment for the arts and not balancing a budget on that and -- >> fair point. okay?

>> if that's the counterpoint, we are going to a deficit structure to take us over the cliff and more importantly all of these deficits that you are talking about were used to bail out the major financial institutions that took us over the cliff because of the deregulatory philosophy of president bush. >> the response is two fold. number one, from 1981 when the bush tax cuts were passed until reagan -- i mean, reagan tax cuts were passed until he left office, federal revenues doubled so the lower taxes didn't lead to less revenue. they led to more revenue. we had a spending problem. it wasn't that we didn't have enough revenue. number one. number two, to your point on dealing with the fiscal time bomb, everybody in washington knows that the elephant in the room is entitlements. we have $50 trillion in unfunded entitlements in social security and medicaid and medicare and do not add up. >> hold on. more fireworks in a second. we'll be right back.

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we are back with ralph reid and james traub. you talk about the women as being smart and tough and obviously they're being very successful. what do you attribute that to you? what is it they're selling exactly? >> i think it is traditional reagan conservatism with a feminine emphasis on education and children. if you look at, for example, palin who was really the -- she was the trail blazer for these candidates and inspired a lot of them, endorsed a lot of them. i wouldn't say she's personally responsible for the winning but it was helpful. >> oh, yeah. no question. >> she talked a lot about, you

know, children with disabilities who needed special education. there's been at the state level in a lot of states jeb bush was one of the leaders on this in florida of providing what were there called mckay scholarships so a child with a disability could get a voucher and go to another school. some of the children don't get their needs met or they're sometimes subjected to peer pressure and aren't always treated respectfully. those kinds of things. so, i see this as putting a new face on the republican party. and i think -- i think, frankly, the left and the media are fit to be tied. they don't know how to deal with it. >> if you think about the way that -- >> very smart. >> reagan went into office, i think speaking in the ways that ralph of talked about but in the fact in the end grew the federal

government. i don't think that current crop of republicans are reaganesque. not only in that sense. the most outstanding thing of reagan to me of memory was the amazing optimism for himself and for america. i'm struck at how this current crop of republicans has kind of grabbed america's brain stem, you know, the combination of anger which is today's word and i think fear which was the post- 9/11 word and i'm really struck that to me obama has almost abandoned the hopefulness that one time was his calling card and the kind of cool, rationality which at one time seemed appealing now seems like a form of wimpishness or something and so this focus on anger and that if you're not angry there's something deficient about you. i find that really disturbing. >> well, you have got to battleground survey. 70% of the country said they're anxious or nervous. >> voters should be. >> you have 18 to 29-year-old voters that supported obama 2 to 1 two years ago who are seniors or graduating from college and

guess what? they can't find a job. >> moving back home. >> that will change a political environment overnight. when you add that level of political toxicity with this government overreach and these massive deficits and the concern that america if we don't rein in this spending could be like greece or spain, and that's the environment that you're in. >> i should clarify, i think ralph is right. people, voters have ever reason to be frightened and angry. i don't think it's good to have leaders see themselves as channelling and amplifying that anger. >> the great piece on the democratic side missing is optimism. nobody stepped up to fill that void and say, here's the answer. and we have a solution. and we're going to solve the problem and we have left the field empty for the sarah palins brilliance she's brought to it and troubled by the substance but the democratic party failed

to step up and say anything meaningful. >> when you leave town without addressing tax rates in the middle of a great economic crises of the modern era, it is just total abject abdication of government responsibility and going to be punished in november because of it. >> i was going to -- i'm sorry. but we have to wrap it up here pretty quickly but we have to talk about ralph's novel. i don't know if many people are aware that you're also a novelist. >> i'm a novelist? >> yes. you write fiction. >> has this been fiction until now? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> but anyway, "the confirmation" about a supreme court confirmation. how did you apply your experience to your book? >> i lived through the clarence thomas nomination when i was at the christian coalition, through the bork battle and i think it's become broken. i think the judicial selection process has gone from advise and consent to search and destroy and i candidly think it's a double standard. i think particularly with a

conservative nominee like alito and roberts, it's dumpster diving and i wrote what i saw as a broken process. i thought fiction was the way to do it. >> i was misquoted in a newspaper recently that shall not be named. >> thank you both. an incredibly lively and contentious conversation. we thank you for that. we hope you'll be back soon. thanks so much for joining us, both of you. come again. ♪ ♪ mike mike mike ♪ weinstein ♪ representing district 19 short term society. if you don't have immediate results, you say, okay. i'm disappointed. where's my dream? come on. politics is long term. long shot. long breathing. f@@??????

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silly from the serious. case in point, political ads. >> there are so many parodies, go to youtube. you can see hundreds of christine o'donnells riding a broom stick. let's look at the real ads. >> from senate campaigns to local elections, take this ad for representative mike weinstein. a republican running in florida to the house of representatives. take a look. ♪ ♪ mike mike mike weinstein ♪ working hard for you and me >> whoa. >> okay. eliot, this is -- prosecutor just like you. >> not just like me. >> looks like his son may have made that ad after school. >> he did make it. but you know what? we need rules for candidates. rule number one, no rap ads.

if you carry an aarp card and you're bald. too crazy for me. >> not just republicans. john hickenlooper is democratic mayor of denver. a geologist, businessman and running for governor. >> i guess i'm not a good politician. i can't stand negative ads. i see one and feel like i need a shower. you see a lot of them. >> stop. rule number two, don't take a shower with your clothes on. >> the ad to capture what we're talking about went viral. an ex-marine running for alabama agriculture commissioner. let's take a look. >> i'm dale peterson and i'm after the republican nomination for alabama agriculture commissioner. i've been a farmer, a businessman, a cop, a marine during vietnam so listen up. alabama ag commissioner is one of the most powerful positions in alabama.

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america is more lovable than ever but becoming a little crazy. this tea party story look from outside is really crazy. it is not even ideology. it is pure hatred sometimes and it makes for someone like me who love this is country it is a little frightening. the duty of the moderator of leader which is are still the majority and who are the honor of the country should be to confront passion and irrationality with ideas and with facts. >> i agree. >> they should not let sarah palin holding the front of the stage. she's on the stage today. what are the others doing? >> who do you blame? that's easy. who should step up? >> all these people who mobilize themselves two years ago should be on board again.

they're too absent. they're disappointed but disappointed by what? realty is never exactly like the dreams. so obama did a great job. he should be more supported than he is by his own participants and you have a lot of good people, of great people who have entered the view of america. they should stand and not let the extremists like palin, for example, be on the front like this. >> i want to ask you something i heard you say that this is a period of brainstorming which is a nicer way of describing current events. can you talk about that a little bit, when you said brainstorming, what do you mean? >> i mean that today nobody knows exactly what are the solutions. we are all of us european and americans, right, left, in a sort of black hole, of course.

all the old ways of thinking are dead. old ideologies. we have to reshape and reinvent but reshape and reinvent does not mean to let passions speak and to say, i know, we all know that 70% of the republican voters believe that obama is muslim. they do believe that he was born in kenya. he's more american, more american than a lot of them. obama is more american than mrs. palin. he embodies -- of course. >> that's a good statement. that's will get a lot of buzz. >> you talk about brainstorming -- >> wait a minute. obama is really -- if america is what the founding fathers dreamt a few centuries ago, obama is one of the embodiments of america.

>> you obviously like president obama a good deal. is there anyone on the republican side you admire? >> today, the race for the republican camp is to go back to the barry goldwater time. barry goldwater, 1964. the republicans lost, did lose a lot of ground because of the extremism of goldwater. >> he created the modern republican party that then won with nixon and with reagan so many people in the sarah palin camp saying we want to go back to goldwater and laid a foundation. haven't there been over periods, i would call them spasms in american history to go through this? >> of course. beginning of the '60s. the moment of martin luther king. the years and so on. you had some moments like that. well, the hope that the america of today will be able to sort out that with as much nobility and greatness as she did in the past.

the new deal period also was a great moment of america with some very strong oppositions which could look like volcanization. >> why do you think as an outsider looking in, why do you think obama has lost his appeal with the american people? because the ratings are way down. what do you think it is? >> number one, i'm not so sure he lost his appeal. we'll see. 2 of november. my bet is that we will win much more than is expected by a lot of american observers and for them today. the game is not over. you will see. i'm not so sure he will lose. now we live in a strange society

with very short-sighted way of consider politics. people in europe like in america wants results immediately. we are in a short-term society. short-term sighted society. if you don't see results, i'm disappointed. where is my dream? it's long shot, long breathing. >> your description of the tea party as some eruption of absurd hatred is absolutely off base. a frenchman that gets a description of liberal commentator. it has no touch on reality. chocolate. yoe it has 35% of your daily value of fiber. tasty fiber, that's a good one! ok, umm...read her mind. [ male announcer ] fiber one chewy bars.

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welcome to our republican political party. what better way to serve up the points of view than with a party right here in the studio.

>> let's meet the guests. bernard henri-louis. >> pawly is a supermodel, writer and will cain is a columnist and the host of the national review online's off the page. welcome, everybody. >> thanks, kathleen. >> paulina and bernard, you are both foreign born looking at us from the outside. are we crazy? >> well -- >> well, crazy, yes. rather crazy. >> charmingly crazy? >> most of the time. but sometimes not completely charmingly. when you see the tea parties, for example, it is crazy and not charming at all. i must say. >> and the reason -- >> he's going to rebut. >> jump over the table here. >> french men will answer in the most charming possible way. yes. you know? oh. >> you are crazy. >> little bit in a charming way except for -- i love that.

okay. i'm american now. i have an american passport so i feel like i can get into it a little bit more. any country in which the word "liberal" is a swear word is weird. >> i like that view. >> all right, all right. >> let me tell you what's crazy. >> put on your body armor. >> totally disagree with everything you say. >> before today i didn't know who you were. i've known paulina since i was 9. >> i would say the same. >> good choice. >> i would much prefer paulina than -- you are right. >> apparently you are god in france but your description of the tea party as some eruption of absurd hatred is absolutely totally off base. it is the reflection of a frenchman in paris turning the tv on five minutes and gets a description of a liberal commentator. >> why don't you get a better sense? >> it is not emotional at all or

about fear or hatred. it's an ideological movement of people that believe in liberty and limited government and seen the government grow to point where they feel like it's so far removed from the original intentions they're marching in the street. >> i'm going to jump in. there's two tea parties and since you're not familiar with his work, he is a strong ally of america in many ways and described himself more as anti-anti-american than pro-american previously. and so it's with a tea party. there's an anti-obama part of the tea party that is motivated by some very deep-seeded negativity and we have seen that and need an anti-anti-obama movement for them and there is a big government economic argument that's also part of the tea party and the ideology and legit but the party we have seen with the posters, you know what i'm talking about is not legit. >> the point is that that element of the tea party is so small that it deserves no lip service.

>> this is much too heavy. one thought. >> the tea. a cup of tea around. >> that's not sufficient. >> my point of view is not a point of a french men but a lot of american women and men whom i know and who are ashamed. american. ashamed of what they hear in tea parties. >> i don't think it's -- >> it's not a european point of view. >> i don't think your view is that representative of americans. >> let me say he is though even french he is an american patriot and believes in what this nation stands for and one who believes in what this country -- we have to move on. it's a party. here's the most important thing. >> the tea parties -- >> it is also politics and that part of it we all love. nobel peace prize is going to be announced tomorrow. we need an award for integrity. if there were such a prize, who would you give it to? >> eliot, can i interrupt right

here? >> of course. >> there is no such thing in the nobel prizes. there is an honest and politician with integrity would sink like a rock thrown into the world of politics. >> anybody want to defend this -- look. i was in that, in that tawdry world for a world and there are some. >> he has a nobel for something else. paul krugman. he advocates positions and looking at every crisis, beneath the financial crisis, there's a media crisis. >> ari, i'm a huge fan and will be on the show tomorrow. x on that answer. >> you have somebody who will not be on the show tomorrow for sure but who might have the nobel prize and deserves it. the chinese loo who is human

rights fighter since tianemen and who tries to think and build the democracy in china. >> the chinese government called the norwegian government saying if you give him the prize it will cast a pall over the relations. >> a reason to give it to him. it would be an additional reason to decide to give it to him. >> i think barack obama will be relieved to no longer be the holder of that prize. he looked so unhappy when he got it. i have never seen anybody receive a nobel prize and be like -- weighed down by it. >> the speech was read. >> it was beautiful. >> speaks great. he looked dejected. the ears were drooping. >> that's hard. >> frankly -- >> yes, i agree. arguably the last great speech he gave. >> yes, exactly. >> most recent one -- >> you didn't get a chance. >> i give to the supermodels when in doubt.

what i would say is i'm not comfortable putting politicians up for hero worship. good politics is about politics and not people. people are flawed. >> right. >> good politics is about getting -- >> i have another question for you all when we come back. stay with us.

welcome back to our political party. i have one more quick question for everybody. roy halladay pitched a no-hitter last night. what's the closest political equivalent to a political no-hitter? >> doesn't equate.

no compromise. this is why sports is so great in the society. merit-based society where winners and losers exist. you cannot do it in politics. >> a no-hit we are the senate republicans. i will hand it to them. no hits and no votes for about 100-plus obama nominees so i think that's an area where you're throwing pitches and nobody's getting through. >> give us the european perspective. does the metaphor work? >> there is no european perspective of baseball. it is so american. if you go to -- what is the city? where baseball is supposed to have been -- cooperstown. >> in new york state. i'm proud of it. >> two hours from here. >> four hours. >> sorry. with a good -- >> the way you drive, okay. >> three. no equivalent in europe. >> there should be. baseball is an exquisite sport. >> one of the superiorities of america. there is a lot of superiorities of america. >> see that again?

>> baseball -- >> tea party. >> that's why i'm so desperate about tea parties. >> paulina? >> to watch a bunch of sweaty guys chase balls -- >> oh dear. >> not the kind i'm interested in. >> across the nation, i hate to break up the party but that's all we have time for. thank you, again, guests for being here. bernard, ari, paulina and will. thanks for being here. we'll be right back. so i threw it right back... with yoplait light -- around 100 calories. now i love my curves in all the right places. ♪

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