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laureate for nobel prize for peace. he is the first laureate to be named essentially in official confinement sincing on song suu kyi nearly two decades ago. he's also of any nominee the most publicly opposed by his own government, secretary of the nobel committee, there on the scene now in oslo who we saw briefly a moment ago said he received a warning. the nobel committee doesn't speak much about these kinds of things but it was made clear to him then it would not be considered a friendly gesture. listen into the english. >> fundamental english rights in china. the nobel committee long believed there is a close connection between human rights and peace. such rights are a prerequisite for the fraternity between
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nations as which nobel wrote in this bill. over the past decade china has achieved economic advances to reach history can hardly show any equal. the country now has the world's second largest economy. hundreds of millions of people have been lifted out of poverty. participation has also broadened. china's new status, increased responsibility. china is in breach of several international agreements. as well as to its political rights. article 35 for china's constitution lays down that, and i quote, citizens of china, enjoy freedom of speech of the press or assembly, or
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association or procession and/or demonstration. end quote. in practice, these freedoms have proved to be distinctly for china's citizens. for over two decades, liu xiaobo has been a spokesman for human rights in china. he took part in the tiananmen process in 1989. he was a leading author behind the manifest to such rights in china which were published on the 60th anniversary of the united nations universal declaration of human rights. the following year liu was sentenced to 11 years in prison and two years depravation of political rights for inciting some version of state power. liu has constantly maintained
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that this sentence was what violates both china's own constitution and fundamental human rights. the campaign to establish universal human rights also in china is being waged by many chinese, both in china, itself, and abroad. through the severe punishment to him, liu has become the foremost symbol of this wide-ranging struggle for human rights in china. thank you very much. [ speaking foreign language ] >> if you're just joining us, that's chairman of the norwegian
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nobel committee announcing for the first time in a century, more than a century, the nobel committee awarded a nobel prize for peace to a chinese citizen, to a dissident, a man considered subversive and dangerous by authorities in beijing. liu xiabo, a 55-year-old writer and professor is laureate of the 2010 nobel prize for peace. carl back in 1935 was in custody and could not attend his nobel ceremony. ing on song suu kyi could not attend hers because she was under house arrest. liu xiaobo is in prison, it's not clear if he'll be able to accept the prize december 10th. chinese authorities have been clear they oppose this kind of
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gesture by the nobel committee. stan joins us on the phone. china said in advance it would not be happy about this. >> reporter: indeed, jonathan. china has beeni trying to campaign to not have the nobel peace prize awarded to xiabo. he's serving 11 years in prison. this is a man who's been a long term advocate for human rights and democracy in china. he's been in jail before, served five years supporting the tiananmen process in 1989. in 2008, as we heard from the announcement, he was part of a group that published charter 08. this is a manifesto calling for recognition of human rights and move toward democracy in china. the government cracked down hard and very, very quickly. they rounded up many of the ringleaders of china 08 inclu including xiabo, which is why he's serving 11 years in prison.
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his wife has continued to campaign on his behalf. on the internet, gathering thousands of signatures. that writing is concern amongst the chin niece government officials here about how widely these ideas, dangerous ideas, how widely they in fact could spread. as you mentioned before, unknown whether he'll -- unlikely he'll be able to collect this award. of course, may not know he's won it being inside prison. serving 11 years inside prison, awarded the nobel peace prize, while locked up his ideas will reach worldwide. >> how many chinese will know it? his wife said once he's not well known in the country even though intellectu intellectuals, activists, human
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rights organizations, diplomats around the world have spoken out in favor of his release. is he a household name in china? is he a well-known figure? >> reporter: well, certainly by the dissident community this is someone who is known. if you go back to 1989 with the tiananmen -- as i mentioned before five years in prison for supporting those protests. it's interesting, you talk about just how widely known and how widely known this award is going to be. cnn's signal has been blacked out now as we speak here in china. the government concerned about how this news is going to spread and how this news is going to be received. and of course, the ideas that will come from that and go throughout the community. one of the real difficulties now for the government is the use of the internet inside the country. that's where charter 08 really took hold. it was spread throughout the internet and gathered thousands of signatures. that really raised the alarm bells with the officials here.
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xiaobo may not know he's won the award. his wife is going to campaign on his behalf. we understand there's been media outside her house today here in anticipation of this announcement. it was no surprise. he was the favorite to win the nobel prize, being widely anticipated. now that the moment's here the chinese who have been campaigning for him not to win it are going to have to deal with the impact. >> it's got to be considered i suppose from their point of view very stinging rebuke. not only did they campaign publicly, very publicly against the nobel committee awarding this prize to this laureate. in fact, he is the first chinese citizen to ever receive the prize. the dalai lama, the tibetan spiritual leader did receive the prize but he's tibetan and doesn't consider himself a citizen of china. he travels on a refugee's passport. with the dalai lama aside, we're seeing the first nobel peace prize ever awarded to a chinese
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citizen, going to a man the government considers subversive and a danger to society. >> reporter: yeah, it comes at a really interesting time, too, if you look at the recent tensions between china and japan, tensions with north and south korea and china's involvement with its relationship in north korea. it's interesting, too, barack obama, the u.s. president of course was the previous -- when he's asked about the response and how will the chinese response to what he says as well. >> cnn's stan grant live. liu xiabo, 55-year-old writer, professor, poet who has been harassed, arrested and imprisoned for his calls to democracy in china is the laureate of the 2010 nobel prize for peace. we return our viewers to regular programming. viewers in the united states will see anderson cooper 360.
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for everyone else, larry king live in progress. tonight how campaign ad make e create phony public opinion using paid actors instead of real is that how they think of voters in their state? also tonight, crime and punishment, it's being called the murder on pirate lake. tiffany hartley says she watched drug bandits gun down her husband, i'll talk with tiffany one-on-one tonight. and phoebe prince 15 years old when she hanged herself, allegedly bullied relentlessly, six classmates now facing charges. the question tonight, are those charges warranted? new details tonight that raise new questions. we begin keeping them honest with politicians trying to play you for a chump. i know that's frankly nothing new, but tonight we've got a great example of just how fake some of these campaign ads are. exhibit a.
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>> obama's messing things up. >> spending money we don't have. stimulus, obama care. >> and joe manchin supported it all. >> joe's not bad as governor, but when he's with obama. >> he turns into washington joe. >> and washington joe does whatever obama wants. >> we better keep joe manchin right here in west virginia. >> away from washington. >> the only way we'll stop obama. >> that's put out by the national republican senatorial committee. targeting west virginia governor joe manchin running to succeed the robert byrd. as you look at these three people, listen to a memo from the talent agency, that's right, talent agency, that found these three. quote, we're going for a hickey, blue collar look. john deere hats, not new, preferably beat up, and trucker hats. a hicky blue collar look? probably not the term a politician should be using to describe the people of his state. the people he wants to appeal too. we should stress this memo is not from the candidate himself
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but shows the attitude of some of the people at the talent agency who worked behind the scenes on this campaign. these actors are getting paid $400 a day according to the casting memo. you might recognize the ordinary guy in the middle, damian, we found him here working as an extra in a sketch on "saturday night live". we saw his video where he describes himself as an actor, filmmaker, broadcaster and host. oh, and here he is also on "who wants to be a millionaire." by the way, he says on his site that he's got no comment about the west virginia ad but he is still available for work. he has a quote, says let's move on now, and produce together. which actually kind of sounds like a political slogan. let's go back to the ad, the west virginia diner they're talking in? turns out it's not in morgantown, or charleston, west virginia, it's in philadelphia, pennsylvania. as for the ad the republicans say they pulled it but it is still running. the republican candidate is now
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distancing himself from the ad but it's far from the only such example out there. this one, take a look at this ad from ohio, features a blue collar worker saying democratic candidate ted strickland, you'd think they could find a real supporter, instead they hired an actor, chip redden. take a look at this ad attacking harry reid, a trio of supposed illegal immigrants, here they are again in a campaign ad for david vitter. maybe they have forged papers and will travel. before you get too outraged, you should know democrats do it too, using bogus real people, casting ads like sunday matinees, all the same kind of trickery. so do special interest groups. remember harry and louise, the fictional couple in the fight over health care reform? first they were against it, and then a decade later, when someone else was paying them, they were for it. the question is, why all the spoon feeding?
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there is a real version of the truth. and we're all living it. let's talk about it now with former communications director anita dunn and gop strategist ed rollins as well. does everybody just do this? is it all kind of fake? >> some of it is. i wouldn't say everything. the best commercials are head on. a candidate, if you have a good candidate who can articulate a message, delivering his own message is the most powerful part of it. >> you've run a lot of campaigns, why hire actors? why not just have real people? >> it's important to know this wasn't done by the campaign, this was done by the national republican senate committee, they're running campaigns all over the place, and the campaign itself can't say yea or ney or what have you. that's one of the sad parts, of the election laws today, they use these actors because it's easier to do than go to west virginia, you're running 20 campaigns. the key thing here is you -- you're trying to tap into an emotion. when you get down into the closing weeks of a campaign, you're really trying to make people vote against something as opposed to vote for something, and that's the unfortunate part of the business.
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>> anita, people see new actors are involved, but it just seems cynical if they're casting around for, you know, hicky, blue collar-looking people. >> it does. you would like to think that one of the first rules of advertising would be, if you're going to make an ad with real people in it, you want to find real people first as opposed to casting actors in it. i think the ad from ohio and the ad from west virginia, though, illustrate something that's really important, which is, you know, if you try to get too cute, these ads can really backfire on you. in west virginia, for example, you know, the ad really underscores a key thing they're using against the republican senate candidate, which is that he actually isn't from west virginia, that he's from florida, he's from colorado, that he's a wealthy individual out of touch with real west virginians. what better way to illustrate that than the fact they have fake west virginians, hicky, if you will, cast in an ad to attack the democrat. and in ohio, the fact they found
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somebody who isn't really a steelworker but plays one on tv, to -- and using the word "us," he's done this to us in here, it violates advertising rules. >> republicans do it, democrats do it, no one has a lock, the special interest groups do it. >> no, but these are egregious. >> i would agree. >> yes. >> the thing is they're spending so much money on advertising. there's going to be $4.5 billion spent, and so you know, it's -- every campaign is not capable of putting together the proper campaign. >> what do you think about now all these -- because of the supreme court ruling, these groups able to basically get unlimited donations and no one really knows where the donors are from? >> i can tell you, when i'm running a campaign, i want to control my message. i don't want to do anything the candidate is uncomfortable with. you basically can have outside groups come in and put anything on the air and confuse the electorate. the electorate assumes these commercials are done by you and
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sometimes it's a detriment. here is a campaign running along very well, jim dornin, doing a great job of a come from behind campaign and now they're basically distracted by this story for the next day or two until they get the thing off the air. >> anita, should americans be concerned they're not going to be able to know who's donating money and who's behind these campaigns on all sides? >> they absolutely should be concerned. disclosure is one of the keys to our campaign finance system. and disclosure has always been one of the cleanest ways of people knowing exactly who's funding campaigns and why they're funding them. now in this year, egregiously you have the campaigns whose voices are actually getting shouted out and drowned out by these outside interests that, yes, they don't control them, but voters don't discriminate or make a difference between the ads. and the reality is candidates have lost control of their campaigns in a lot of these places, as ed said, when you're running a campaign, you do want to control your message.
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you want to be able to -- you're accountable for what goes on the air, so you want to have some confidence that what's on the air is reflecting your views and campaign strategy. that has changed dramatically, particularly in this year where some states the actual candidates' advertising is being outspent two to one by outside interest. >> it's at least making some actors employed and giving them jobs, but it would be nice to see real people. >> unfortunately it ends november second. or fortunately. >> and then it starts again. ed rollins, anita dunn, thanks very much. >> let us know what you think. should real people be in these ads? join us on 360.com. did the white house cover up the severity of the gulf oil spill and were they wrong in august when they said 75% of the oil was already gone? remember that? see what a presidential panel says about it today and how far the white house is responding. local officials also coming for criticism. we'll talk about it all in plaquemines parish. and later our week-long series in bullying continues
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with a very sad and much more complicated case than a lot of people realized early on, phoebe prince bullied to death, but also bullied others in ireland. the case of six kids who authorities say tormented her. ♪ where'd you learn to do that so well. ♪ ♪ where'd you learn to do that so well. ♪ the new cadillac srx. the cadillac of crossovers. cadillac. the new standard of the world.
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since then new information has emerged about her medical problems. information that could be used by the defense in the upcoming trials. alina cho has the latest. >> reporter: she had the face of an angel but behind those eyes it turns out phoebe prince had demons. >> i think phoebe had a complicated mental health history.
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it's still a sad story, just a different, much more complicated sad story. >> reporter: the story broke back in january. >> investigating an apparent suicide. >> reporter: when this newcomer from ireland who moved to the u.s. for a fresh start hanged herself in the stairwell of her south hadley, massachusetts, home. then two months later, the bombshell. >> it appears that phoebe's death on january 14th followed a torturous day for her. >> reporter: the district attorney took the unprecedented move of criminally charging six of prince's classmates, accusing them of bullying her so relentlessly, prosecutors say it became intolerable for her and she committed suicide. all six have pleaded not guilty. townspeople pointed fingers at the kids, at school administrators. >> what you're doing is wrong. >> reporter: but until now, few have looked into phoebe prince's past. emily basilon is a senior writer for slate.com, the only reporter
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to see hundreds of secret grand jury documents related to the case before they were sealed. >> narrative had emerged of a pack of mean kids who had really tormented phoebe prince for months. and that reality doesn't match. >> reporter: the truth is much more complicated. >> it's much more complicated. exactly. >> reporter: according to the indictments, prince was bullied because she was seen as a boyfriend stealer. getting involved with the two male defendants who already had girlfriends. that's just part of the story. what's now emerging according to those court documents is that phoebe prince for years suffered from depression, that she repeatedly cut herself, was taking anti-depressants and even tried to kill herself on another occasion, and was hospitalized, just two months before she died. what's more, basilon says, prince who has become a poster child for bullying, may have been a bully herself. >> phoebe started at a boarding school in ireland when she was
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in seventh grade and that fall she became friends with another girl. but sometime that spring their friendship soured. and phoebe was part of a group of girls who really made this other girl's life quite miserable. >> reporter: by all accounts, a big reason prince moved to south hadley. her aunt tells cnn she went to school officials and asked them to watch over her niece and to help her get in with the right group of kids. but did that happen? >> they knew, they looked the other way. they attempted to sweep it under the rug. what they're doing is just hiding the problems, they're just hiding the failures. >> reporter: keeping them honest, we went back to south hadley high school, where on this night the school held one of its anti-bullying task force meetings. after repeated calls to the district that went unanswered, we tracked down superintendant gus sayer. nice to see you. how are you? >> okay. >> reporter: a lot of people who are saying, had school officials acted sooner, phoebe prince might still be alive today, and what do you say to them?
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>> well, i don't think that's true. i mean, school officials acted promptly when they first learned about the -- about bullying that was taking place that was reported to us by phoebe on january, i think it was january 7th. and we acted immediately at that point. >> reporter: but what has changed in the past months at south hadley? >> the programs. we've greatly enhanced the programs. >> reporter: he says bullying prevention programs have been implemented at the elementary and middle school levels. but not yet at the high school. what has happened at south hadley high is this. >> in front of each of the buildings in the school is a very large sign called respect. >> it's mind boggling that with a tragedy in this school that it hasn't been taken more seriously. >> reporter: susan smith, whose son nick was a pallbearer at prince's funeral is among those calling for the principal and superintendant to resign.
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we spoke to principal dan smith six months ago. this is all he would tell us. >> we are working through and revising our procedures and policies and so forth, yes. >> reporter: six months later, little has changed. >> do you have a second just to answer a question? not even a question? about the students? as for those charged in prince's death, the so-called south hadley six, all six have been suspended indefinitely until the case is resolved. for the family of phoebe prince, there may be no resolution. but prince's father tells basilon, he will ask the court for leniency if the defendants do something they've never done. simply apologize. alina cho, cnn, south hadley, massachusetts. >> phoebe prince's story is a complicated case and raises tough questions. we want to bring in our panel, larry hackett with "people" magazine.
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we've been partnering with "people," also sunny hostin, legal contributor for "in session" and rachel simmons, author of "odd girl out." larry, in "people" this week you're focusing on bullying. the article about the phoebe prince case, you really look at the impact on the entire town of south hadley. >> it's an incredible story. the town has not recovered and may never recover. it's a story where it's very ambiguous. the kids are trying to come back to school. there's an account where one of accused kids comes to the homecoming football game and everyone's glad to see him, but in fact we discover all the kids are out of school, some of them are getting threatened. the kids are asking their teachers, why do people hate us? i go on to the blogs and see they're making us feel like we're some kind of hate town. so it's their incredible mixed feelings about it. the school is very tense. they're trying to incorporate new programs. but an argument broke out one day and there was a lockdown at the school. so people are really on edge and they're groping with how to deal with this. >> it's also that fine line between what is bad behavior and
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what is actual criminal behavior. there's plenty of people in the town who think these kids should not have done this to phoebe prince, but do they deserve to actually go to jail for this? and it's a complex question. rachel, you know, some of the people are painting the six accused of bullying phoebe as being just as much victims as she was, though obviously in a different way. where is that line between bad behavior and criminal behavior? >> i think it's really unfortunate that we've had to make examples of these kids. and i think one of the reasons the law is stepping in is because the schools and the families weren't able to control these kids. and what we really need is not to make an example out of south hadley but to turn the discussion to schools and families. >> and sunny, in terms of the case that the defense is making, i mean, how -- the idea that phoebe had been on anti-depressants for a while, that she may have had a suicide attempt in the past and she maybe when she was back in ireland even bullied somebody else. >> you know, i think that's going to be important in this
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case. >> you think the defense will bring that in? >> i do think they're going to bring that in. and i think it's important because some have been charged with civil rights violations ending in injury, bodily injury. so that causal link has to be made. if this defense can prove, perhaps, you know, she was bullied, but she wasn't bullied to death, they're going to have to bring that up. and i think it will be relevant. >> there are bullying laws in massachusetts, but these defendants weren't brought up on those charges. >> that's right. my understanding is the bullying laws have been strengthened because of this case. and at the time bullying wasn't necessarily a crime. so they weren't charged with, let's say, bullying her to death, but they were charged with civil rights violation. and it's -- i've read the paperwork, and it's sort of creative. but i think it's going to be a difficult case to prove in terms of the civil rights violation ending in the bodily injury. it's going to be tough. >> but whether or not somebody is depressed does not make them more or less of a candidate for bullying. we live in a country where we give kids different learning plans for different learning
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abilities. we can't have one anti-bullying policy for the strongest kids. >> that's absolutely true. >> there are different kinds of kids and they're going to experience bullying in different ways. we have to protect all of them. >> it's interesting, too, because to me the information phoebe prince had suffered from depression, had taken medication for it, maybe attempted suicide, maybe bullied in prior years in ireland, to me it doesn't really necessarily talk to this case what happened to her, it talks to the complexity of this issue. in that, you know, some kids who get bullied turn around and bully others. there are no necessarily saints, no one is all evil or all a saint, it's a complex thing, especially when you're a kid. >> it's extremely complex and i think it's a phenomenon, in that bullying is different today, anderson. before you got bullied by the schoolhouse bully, and everybody got into a fight in the schoolyard and those are the people that knew about it. now with social media, everyone knows about it, and so the kid that's being bullied is almost put on an island by herself and left there.
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and that's a different type of bullying. people have to understand that. >> rachel, are we just paying more attention -- do you think this is actually getting worse? clearly with online component, social media, there's that element which has never really existed before, and that's obviously worse. but overall, do you think bullying is getting worse or is it being covered more? >> i think it's a combination of both. we've decided as a culture that this is no longer rite of passage, this is no longer kids being kids. technology, it's changed everything, and frankly if you look at reality television programming, the media has really changed. we see a lot of humiliation and bullying sold to kids as a form of entertainment and i do think that ultimately will affect behavior. >> the judge in the case against the six young people said he can decide in the sentencing phase whether they'll be sentenced as adults or kids. what goes into that decision? >> it's going to be up to the judge. i think he will take into consideration all of the facts of the case, the individual actions in the case, and also
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their ages. i think it will be a combination of facts. and that is really specific to this case because of the way it was charged. but that's something everyone is really looking at. will these kids go to adult prison. and i think that's something that we should all be concerned about. >> sunny hostin and rachel simmons as well, larry, the issue of "people" magazine is on news stands now. appreciate it. tomorrow on bullying, no escape, a town hall meeting. you'll hear from former bullies about why they did it, what made them stop. we gathered groups of kids and adults, parents, educators, crystal bowersox joins us, as does dr. phil. >> the scars that are left from verbal and emotional abuse run deeper and last longer than even physical abuse. somebody burns your psychological skin. that can last the rest of your life. >> you no longer do bully people. but at the time you did, why do
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you think you did it? >> i thought taking somebody else's power would just add on to mine. >> the kids don't want to come forward because they don't want to snitch. i think what happens is the kids will report if they have confidence in the adults in their community. >> it gets better. i'm living proof, and a lot of people have been bullied and celebrity types and public figures. it's okay. there's a light at the end of the tunnel. >> a light at the end of the tunnel. that was crystal bowersox, a special town hall done in partnership with "people" magazine and cartoon network. tomorrow on "360." i hope you join us for that. tiffany hartley says her husband was killed on a lake that straddles the u.s./mexican border. she says she barely escaped with her life. they were both on jet skis. some authorities privately raising concerns, questions, so will she take a lie detector test? we'll ask her. and in chile, rescuers may break through to the trapped miners this weekend, though they won't be coming up right away. maybe next week. details ahead.
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they were attacked by gunmen. tiffany says david was shot in the back of the head, fell into the water, and his body is yet to be found. she made it back to shore. first we sent gary tuchman to zapata, texas, to look into the case. >> reporter: we have an armada of armed protecters as we head out for a short voyage on what may be north america's most dangerous lake. this is the sheriff of zapata county, texas. are you 100% convinced she's telling the truth. >> we can never be 100% convinced. 99.9%, yes. >> reporter: so 99.9%. >> yes. >> reporter: would you be willing to have her take a polygraph test just to be 100% sure? >> i can't force her to do it. >> reporter: would you like her to do it. >> if she wants to do it on her own, sure. >> reporter: this is what she said at a news conference about suggestions by some she's not telling the whole truth. >> i know what i know. i know what i saw, and i can just tell you what i know. unfortunately he's not here to, you know david's not here to
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verify, yeah, we were chased and we were shot at. and so it is hard to be judged. >> reporter: what's the main reason you think that the story is 100% true? >> i look at what is there to indicate that it's not true? >> reporter: there's no jet ski, no body, but you're saying blood was found on a life preserver? >> yes, we're working to get it analyzed. >> reporter: the fact is, public officials we've talked to in this county who don't want to go on camera are doubting it, also the state police commander on the mexican state across the border also publicly doubting it. it's a tragedy. it's also quite the puzzle. >> we're living yards away from actual war in a country. in a foreign country. >> reporter: and it's your feeling the mexican half of this lake is not under any authority controls, the cartels are controlling them? >> not just my feeling, sir, it's reality.
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it's controlled by the mexican drug cartels. >> reporter: the lake is huge. more than 80,000 acres. some of the best bass fishing in north america. but on the other side of this border marker where mexico begins is now a no man's land. do the people know who come out on this water that this is the border marker? do boaters generally know? >> yes. boaters that fish in this lake -- >> reporter: is there any chance she didn't know she was in mexico? >> no, she has said she knew they were in mexico. >> reporter: why would she do that? >> she is saying the threats were in april and may and thought the threats were over with. >> reporter: the waters were barren while we were there. the threat is certainly not over with. gary tuchman, cnn, zapata, texas. >> just a few hours ago i spoke to tiffany hartley. tiffany, first of all, i want to say how sorry i am for your loss. i can't imagine how hard this time must be for you. how are you holding up? >> it's tough. it's tough.
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i think like i've said before, i think i'm just in action mode right now and survival mode. i haven't really had a whole lot of time to just sit and, you know, reflect on everything in a grieving way. i've just been so busy, obviously, with meeting with all you guys. >> how confident are you that authorities are going to be able to find your husband, to be able to bring him home? >> i'm pretty confident. i'm standing in my faith and believing that we are going to get him back, and we are going to be able to honor him in the way that he would want to be. >> have you been in touch with mexican authorities? i mean, are they searching for him? >> we did have a meeting, and they ensured us that they were going to do everything that they could until they exhausted all their resources. we were encouraged when we left that meeting. we believed that they were heartfelt and that they were
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sincere about finding david, and that they're going to do what they're supposed to, and we're going to hold them to it. >> there obviously as you know have been several incidents on this lake over the years involving bandits or pirates or members of the drug cartels and authorities issued a warning. did you and your husband discuss the dangers before going out into mexican waters? >> we knew that there had been pirates there. we didn't realize they were still -- you know, it had been very active in the last couple months. we hadn't heard anything. we did discuss, you know, that was a possibility. we didn't really discuss too much about what would happen or what we would do, we just figured, you know -- we would run and outrun them. our jet skis are fast, they go up to 70, 75 miles an hour, but you just can't outrun the bullets, unfortunately. >> how quickly did they start shooting and what happened then? >> once we started going the
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opposite direction of what they were doing, it wasn't very long after once we started -- they realized we were running away from them that they had started shooting. >> and when did you realize something had happened to your husband? >> after i had seen two shots go over me and they landed in the water, instantly when i saw those i looked back to look at david and that's when i saw -- i saw him fly over his jet ski and into the water. >> and you went back to try to see if he was okay? >> of course. of course, yeah. >> and what happened? >> once i got back to him, i flipped my jet ski around to the right, went back to him, jumped off my jet ski instantly once i got up to him and went and turned him over and that's when i had seen that he had been shot in the head. >> obviously you know some
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people have raised doubts about your account of what happened, although they don't really have any evidence or they just say that since the body hasn't been found and there's a lack of evidence. you say you were taking pictures on the lake. did you take any pictures that would support, you know, what happened? >> no, i don't have the camera. david was the photographer. that's what he did. he always made sure he had a good picture. he liked taking the pictures, and i'd rather him take them because he was better than i was, so he kept the camera on the jet ski. >> we heard a sheriff say that if you wanted to take a polygraph test to back up the story that he'd support that. is that something you'd want to do? >> possibly, but i don't really think i need to, because i know my story and i know what i -- you know, what the story is. but if, you know, that's what the authorities think i need to do, then that might be an option. >> what do you want people to know about david, tiffany?
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>> i wish they would have realized -- seen how much he loved life, how much he loved me. he was a wonderful man. a loving husband, and i miss him terribly. >> tiffany, i appreciate you being on and i'm sorry for all you're going through. i wish you strength in the days ahead. >> thank you very much. >> well, up next the river of toxic sludge. have you seen this stuff in hungary? it's unbelievable. it's spreading. see where it could be threatening right now. plus a major development in the effort to rescue those trapped miners in chile. and some good news ahead. its great. i eat anything that i want.
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following a number of other stories right now, let's get an update with randi kaye. >> reporter: anderson, one of drills boring toward the 33 trapped miners in chile is expected to break through saturday. it will then be two to ten days before the miners can be rescued. that's because engineers must determine if the shaft is stable on its own or should be encased with steel tubing to prevent collapse, which would take a week. that massive chemical spill in hungary has reached one of europe's major rivers, it burst monday, releasing a flood of toxic sludge into the hungarian country side. four people were killed, hundreds forced from their homes. president obama will not sign a bill that would make it easier for courts and banks to speed up home foreclosures, the administration is concerned the bill will make it harder for
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