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important to ignore. and we urge you to talk to your kids, to be involved in their schools, to know what's going on in their lives. in their lives. thanks very much for joining us. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com larry: good evening. saturday would have been john lennon's 70th birthday. we want to celebrate. we hope you enjoy this look back at our show with paul mccartney, ringo starr, yoko ono and olivia harrison. ladies and gentlemen, the beatles. >> here they are, the beatles. ♪
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♪ >> larry: tonight, paul, ringo, yoko, olivia, next on "larry king live." ♪ oh yeah ♪ i tell you something ♪ i think you'll understand. >> larry: we're at the mirage hotel, the revolution lounge, a historic night for larry king live as we meet the beatles, the two living beatles, and the widows of the two departed. this unprecedented cirque de soleil production celebrating the spirit and passion of the beatles. yoko ono lennon, the widow of
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the former beatle john lennon killed -- my god, 27 years already. his solo songbook is the piece of the benefit project, instant karma, the amnesty international campaign. the proceeds go to support amnesty international. and olivia harrison, the widow of george harrison who suck coupled to cancer on november 29th, 2001, executive producer of the traveling collection. that debuted number 9 on the billboard 200 list. it was made up of george harrison, bob dylan. roy orb son, tom petty and jeff lynn. what's this night like for you, yoko? >> very emotional. i was thinking after a year or so, the show might go down a little, but no, it's much, much more exciting now. i was so surprised that they made it into such an incredibly
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exciting show now. >> larry: was this your baby, olivia? >> actually it was george's vision. they had a friendship, and they had this creative spark of a moment, and, you know, george was around just long enough to transmit that to all of us. and through everyone's effort. it came through -- i think it's been seven years. >> larry: what do you think he would have thought of it? >> he would have loved it. i know he would have. he loved cirque. it's a very rho pantic thing, he was a romantic person, and i know he would have enjoyed it. >> larry: what would john have thought, yoko? >> in the beginning i was worried about what john would have thought. now i really know that john would be very happy with this, yeah. >> larry: do you feel their presence? you've never remarried, right? >> well, we were talking about that. we feel so strongly about our husbands that sometimes it's
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hard for us, isn't it? >> it is hard. you know, their presence is very powerful and very strong, but the incredible thing about them is that they -- everything they left the world and left us is uplifting and joyful. >> that's true. >> there wasn't anything that they left that was negative or, you know, ideas that made you think and love and great melodies. that's pretty unique. >> paul and ringo will be coming aboard. we have quite a show. we'll meet the founder of cirque de soleil. earlier today they had a ceremony honoring john and george. we wanted to share some of the sights and sounds of that event. it happened about an hour and a half ago. watch. >> george was a great musician, a dear friend. i love him and i miss him, and god bless him. i'm sure wherever he is, he's smiling right now. >> it's great to be unveiling
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this, because the guys aren't here, and the show has been such a great success, and encapsulates our music, all the stuff we did together. they were great times. they were magnificent men, and it is an honor to unveil this plaque to them. >> one, two, three, four. >> john would be very happy and glad that this show is such a success, and also that another magnificent man introduced him, and i'm very thankful to him. >> i don't think george would be surprised at the success of this collaboration. he knew it was going to be good in so many ways. i'm just thankful to be a part of it. happy anniversary. >> peace and love for everyone. [ applause ] >> larry: again, we'll be meeting paul and ringo in a
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little while. at the end they'll all be with us, kind of a reunion of the beatles. do you feel that the beatles have kind of surrounded you, you're forever identified as a beatle? >> it's a family. the beatle family is a very strong family, and we're all part of it i feel, yeah. >> larry: even though there were breakups and ups and downs? >> most families do have breakups and arguments, don't you think? >> larry: olivia, how do you handle this? they see you, they think beatle. >> it's a real privilege, to be involved with such a great legacy. it's a real privilege. >> you don't look at there's a down to it? >> no, there isn't any down side. they've been a great support, great friends, our kids are all friends. it really is an extended family. >> larry: when we come back, more talk with yoko and olivia who loved and lost john and george. you'll meet the founder of cirque de soleil. don't go away.
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♪ when i was younger ♪ so much younger than today ♪ i never needed anybody's helped in any way ♪ ♪ and now these days are done ♪ i'm not so self-assured ♪ now i find i change my mind ♪ and opened up the doors ♪ help me if you can ♪ i'm feeling down ♪ and i do appreciate you being around ♪
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♪ something in the way she moves ♪ ♪ attracts me like no other love ♪ ♪ something in the way she woos me ♪ ♪ i don't want to leave her now ♪
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♪ you know i believe and how ♪ somewhere in her smile she knows ♪ ♪ that i don't need no other love ♪ >> larry: a great song. yoko ono-lennon and olivia harrison remain with us, we're joined by the genius, the founder of cirque de soleil. what does the song mean to you, by the way? >> it's an expression of love, isn't it? >> one of great love soldiers. >> yes, it is. >> larry: beautiful melody and lyric. did every one of the beatles like that song, yoko? >> yes, especially john loved it. he was saying that has to be a single. >> larry: it worked out, too. >> i didn't know. >> you didn't know that? i can't believe it. he's the one who told alan that
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it has to be a single. >> larry: guy, how did this come all together? >> a special night in montreal, june of 2000, george and we were passionate of racing. one years it came in montreal, and annually i organize a party. i don't play golf, so i invite all my business people, friends on a special night, on a sunday night, and it goes on all night. george had a common friend. it was my magical garden. he was supposed to come for 30 minutes, say hello, pay a polite visit. he stayed all night and jammed with the musicians there. >> larry: did he come up with this idea? >> when he left, he said i would like to talk with you again.
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i said, listen, i just want to be very careful not engaging in too much conversation. we had a conversation over the phone, and he said, listen, i enjoyed the feeling i had at your place, it reminded me of my own magical garden, which was your house. >> larry: was the process under way when george passed away? >> totally. totally. there were two moments. first when he came to visit my house, and then invited me to visit his house. remember that day? i spent an entire day visiting, he showed me all the property. there what happened basically is we dreamed together. it was not about having a precise vision initially. it was by defining an emotion that we were looking to maybe achieve in the encounter of cirque de soleil and the beatles. this has been the driving force since the beginning. >> yoko, you had to sign off, didn't you? >> yes, of course, after i was nervous, but then it was a good
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idea anyway. >> larry: when we come back, paul and ringo. don't go away. ♪ ah look at all the lonely people ♪ ♪ all the lonely people ♪ where do they all belong ♪ eleanor rigby picks up the ride ♪ ♪ in a church where a wedding has been ♪ ♪ lives in a dream ♪ waits at the window ♪ wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door ♪ ♪ who is it for ♪ you're the one
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♪ i want to hold your hand ♪ i want to hold your hand ♪ i want to hold your hand >> larry: that was nuts. we're celebrating the one-year anniversary of "love" here at the mirage hotel in las vegas. joining us paul mccartney. his latest album is "memory almost full" i love that title. he's gotten some tremendous reviews. and ringo starr, the other former living beatle. his emi catalog goes into global digital release january 8th. the very best of ringo starr will be released on the same date. the only two living men who could say i was a beatle. do you guys keep in touch? >> yeah. >> larry: talk off? >> all the time. >> we go dot "larry king show" and continues like this. >> larry: what do you make of
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this? it's really beautiful. it's a great show. so we come out and see a show together, that's great, with the girls. >> we've supported the show from the start, and a year later, and the dedication of the plaque. >> larry: when you first saw the show, the beatles and cirque de soleil, what did you think? >> when we first saw it our first heard about the collaboration. >> larry: first heard. >> when we first heard about it, i think we loved cirque de soleil anyway. we had seen a few of their shows. actually george brought me here years ago to see "o." he was so in love with what they did. so i felt in love with it, too. then the idea came about that we might do a show together, and the thing was, yeah, okay, the two things sound good together, but what are we going to do? what's it going to be? i kept saying it's like we'll be
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in a film with spielberg, that's great, but what's the script? the french guys are saying -- french-canadian -- >> black and white. >> it will be good. it's going to be good. i say, but -- but pretty soon they came up with sensational ideas. >> larry: did you like it right away? >> i did. i did. it had its process to go through. i loved the way -- where the music was going, we had all that, and the 5.1. and then we saw the show, and it was so exciting, you know, it was really exciting. i haven't seen it since, but the ladies went last night. we're going tonight, but the ladies said it's changed, so it will be very exciting. >> larry: do you guys, frankly, pinch yourselves? i mean, do you get up in the morning and say, sheesh? >> i pinch him. >> yeah. in the morning, and i pinch him. >> and he pinches me. >> larry: it's getting risky.
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>> we're risky kind of guys, even on national television. we just don't care. come on. pinch. >> you know what i mean. >> with us once a day. >> that's my pinch. >> he wants to know. >> larry, you know what, it is true, of course we do. >> larry: you changed the world. >> we were just kids from liverpool. yeah, it is quite amazing. as time goes on, it becomes more and more of a phenomenon. >> larry: it grows. >> and the young kids talk about it like as if it's history, which it is. >> i think the most exciting thing is that you expect people our age to know the music, but actually a lot of the kids know the music. and if anything is left, we have left really good music. that's the important part. not the mop tops or whatever. >> larry: you joined them after they were -- >> nothing -- >> larry: you made them?
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>> they were nothing. >> we were nothing until they joined us. >> and i joined and they got this record deal, and look what happened. everybody feels that. >> no, we were good. you wanted to join us. you begged to join us. we were really good. >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: were all of you friendly? >> i can tell you this. we loved him. we were in ham burg, and we were a good little group. >> larry: big in germany. >> in ham burg. >> in ham burg, not germany, just ham burg. but ringo was in this other group call rory stone and the hurricanes. we thought he was the very best drummer we had ever seen. we wanted him in the group. it was kind of like that. we were big fans of his. >> and i was big fans of theirs. that's how it went. >> larry: did you thing the beatles would make it? >> we thought weld be really big in liverpool. >> larry: big at home. >> and then we were sort of big in london, you know, england,
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then sweden and denmark. we didn't just do it overnight. we had to go on a lot of planes. >> larry: when it took off, your first trip to the united states, what was that like? >> that was something, i must say. we didn't know that that crowd and that pandemonium was going to be at the airport. we took off, and we knew it was going to be good, and we were -- you know, the thing is we were pretty sure of ourselves. you had to be, you know, to do what we did. we knew we were good. we had a degree of success, but we didn't know that was going to greet us. >> we didn't know it was going to be that big. >> we came down the stairs -- >> but to backtrack a bit. george had come on holiday to america. we were used to in europe the big crowds and the idolation, and he came back, he was going to record stores, saying have you got the beatles? never heard of them. he was saying, it will be hard, but by the time we arrived, it
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was great. >> larry: where were you when john passed? >> i was in sussex, in my home in sussex. that's where i was. >> larry: somebody call you? >> yeah, my manager at the time called me, an it was just a shot of all shocks, you know. >> larry: george, where were you? >> george? >> larry: ringo. i was going to when george passed. >> no, you weren't, larry, you got your name wrong. >> it's my turn. >> he got your name wrong. >> i know. give him a break. >> we can't. it's live. >> we were in the the bahamas, and the kids called, we heard something, and we got the call that john had actually been seriously hurt. we got on a plane to new york, said hello to yoko. you know, you don't know what to do. it's so weird, and then it was so crazy there, and i didn't
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think we were helping the situation, because there was another fab in town, that then we went back to l.a. i was in the bahamas. >> larry: was george's passing expected? >> yeah. >> larry: you knew how sick he was? >> yeah, we all knew, and he knew. but it was great. you know, in all these -- well, actually in john's case, i was going to say in these tragedies, in george's case, in that tragedy there were some good things about it. in john's case, there weren't. but with george, i got to see him a short time before he died, and it was just the best, because we just sat like this, if you don't mind. we sat, stroking hands like this. this is a guy i had known since he was a little kid. you don't stroke hands with guys, like that. it was just beautiful. >> not unless they're secure. >> we just spent a couple hours,
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and it was really lovely. it was like favorite memory of mine. >> larry: we'll be right back on this asuspicious, wonderful occasion, back with more of paul and ringo. ♪ a crowd of people stood and stared ♪ ♪ they had seen -- ♪ remember to let her into your heart ♪ ♪ then you can start ♪ to make it better ♪ better ♪ better ♪ better ♪ better ♪ oh yeah ♪ hey jude ♪ ♪ na na na na ♪ed
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♪ one two three four >> larry: that's what i have here. >> wing it, larry. >> larry: we're back with paul mccartney, ringo starr, and a mandolin. >> hey. ♪ everybody gonna dance tonight ♪ ♪ everybody gonna feel all right ♪ ♪ everybody gonna dance around tonight ♪ ♪ you can come over to my place if you want to ♪ ♪ you can do the things you want to do ♪ >> great. >> larry: that commercial for that record, with you in a cartoon figure walking, was that your idea? >> no, it was their idea. they're very clever people. >> larry: it really is a great spot. the album is doing great.
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>> it's doing great. >> larry: you couldn't drum with him on that? >> no, because he was in another country. >> larry: you would have used him, though? >> yeah, i use him all the time. >> is the orchestra ready? >> larry: let's get to something current. how are you doing, ringo? >> really well. >> larry: is life treating you well? >> life is great. >> larry: is the wife good? >> the wife is great. >> larry: the wife is gorgeous. >> she's gorgeous and great. >> larry: you live in california? >> no, i live in monte carlo. i have a home in california. i have a home in england, of course. >> larry: and paul, how are you adjusting to what was tumultuous times? >> i'm okay, thank you, larry. thank you for asking. i'm doing surprisingly well. >> larry: that had to be rough. >> it is currently rough. >> larry: still rough. >> yeah, but i don't talk about it, and that helps. >> larry: that's fair enough.
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but life -- aside from that. >> life is good. life is wonderful, and with friends like these, who needs life? >> larry: musically, neither of you has to keep on going, correct? you don't need it financially. >> it will reverse that. >> you don't knee to do it, either, but this is what we do. >> larry: i love what i do. >> i'm still playing. yeah, that's what i do. that's what he does. >> it's true. >> we do it because we love it. it's something that we just love to do. you know, the audiences still like it. while they like it -- >> we'll do it. >> larry: so the drive is not for how much the record sells? it's how well do they like the record? >> it's how much you like it. for me it's a self-satisfaction thing, playing music is something that i like. i think if you don't like it, people aren't going to like it. >> i think it's a thrill that a lot of people like the records, but you make it for yourself,
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and, you know, that's -- that's what i do. you don't say, they'll love this, they'll love that. >> larry: do you still get a kick hearing the music of the beatles? >> oh, yeah. >> yeah. >> larry: like when we come back with the shoinchts i i love it. >> larry: good group. >> good group, man, and all the clips are so great. >> larry: when you watch this show tonight and that music comes on and you're watching the dancer and gymnasts, you still get a kick out of hearing it? >> oh, yeah. it's fantastic. when we were at the premiere of it, we were getting quite emotional. you know, it transports you back to actually making it, and the music in this show is so clear that, for instance, ringo's drums, which were like the central glue in the whole band, you hear them so clear. it's like a miracle, you know. >> actually raised them up a bit. >> it often varied in mixes, and you realize how good we were. >> larry: central clue? wait a minute, the drums are the
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key to the beatles? >> yeah, i think so. i think the bass too. the bass was really good as well. >> the bass was brilliant. >> i thought so. >> he's still the mo melodic player on the planet. >> larry: what does that mean? >> it means he melodic. no he plays the underlining more than a bass would play. >> larry: you came through the '60s. the world changed. do you feel the beatles were part of the impact of that change? >> i think part of it. we weren't it all, but we were kind of spokesmen for it. it's really gratifying now for people to stop you in the street and say, thanks for the music, you know, you saved my life. you hear so much of that, that it is just a privilege to have been -- >> part of it. >> -- part of those four guys. >> it's underlying all of that,
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as lads, which we were, for me personally i'm an only child, and then i had three brothers, who, you know, supported me, pointed out i was going mad or, you know, pointed out the joy of life when it was a down day. you know? so i've always loved that that, you know, the human contact amongst us was so great. no one else could talk to us -- >> can i stroke you now? >> larry: we'll take a break and bring all four on, the widows and the living. >> larry: in all seriousness -- this is really incredible, you know, sitting around you guys. you changed the world. incredible. >> it's something we're very proud of. >> larry: you ought to be. >> like you say, you pinch yourself. >> larry: we'll be right back. all four of them. don't go away. ♪ yes i'm going to be a star
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you know, i'm not a great one for that, maybe it was too many. it was great, it sold. it's the bloody beatles white album. shut up. ♪ you say you want a revolution ♪ ♪ well you know ♪ we all want to change the world ♪ >> larry: we're in the revolution lounge. >> yeah. >> larry: here in las vegas, with ringo and paul -- i want that they'll all be gathering together in the next break, but we wanted to show you a little package, first and get their reaction, the cirque de soleil's production is a unique entertainment experience, but behind the magic is a lot of dedicated creative energy. watch.
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♪ i'm back in the ussr ♪ you don't know how lucky you are boy ♪ ♪ back in the ussr >> the potential of this show is so great. the talent of these guys is already at a great level, but like the beatles did, we push the boundaries of the own music, so we push this show for the best ♪ asked the girl what she wanted to be ♪ >> larry: what makes the songs so special? >> it's a new take. it gives people a chance to peel back the layers of dust that's gathered in 40 years. it's like listening as if they're playing in the room. they were in their 20s. here in this studio, they're still in their 20s ♪ baby you can drive my car ♪ ♪ and baby i love you ♪ the benefit of -- ♪ there will be a show tonight.
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>> larry: everything that happens has to fit the song that happens. >> normally we build our show and the music would follow in support. now we had to work on the music. so basically what we've done, i went to london working with george martin and giles, martin's son. >> we took the masters, digitized them, brought them to vegas, and produced the music for the show in a way that we are replicating everything that was heard and wrote. what we have here on the master tapes. >> larry: can we sea some sounds? >> yeah. this is the very beginning mix. the drums you are hearing here are actually from another song -- from the end of abbey road. and what you'll get is "get back" the start of a song underneath it. so these are two songs.
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>> larry: let's listen. ♪ was a man he thought he was -- but knew he couldn't last ♪ ♪ left the home in tucson arizona ♪ ♪ bought some california grass ♪ help ♪ i need somebody ♪ help ♪ not just anybody ♪ help >> we decided to bring the roller blade on stage for an acrobatic moment based on the "help" song where they're so glorious, but looking for some way to escape. >> larry: see you tonight. >> i decided to bring the walrus into this universe as the free mind who would turn this sad world into a colorful world. >> larry: what is that called?
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>> he looks just like you, larry. >> larry: we could be twin brothers. >> i don't know. >> larry: that behind the scenes stuff. >> it's great. we've seen a lot of it. we've been to visit them, encourage them. >> larry: when the music is remastered, as they were showing us, what does that mean as a musician? >> well, actually that was not only remastered, that was put into a system that made it 5.1, which made it surroundsound. when we made a lot of that music, it was mono, went to stereo, and now it's gone to surroundsound 5.1. the incredible thing when you hear is -- paul and i went to listen to the music and we're going, listen to that, you can hear everything now, thing that were buried a lot, it's all very clear, so it's really great to hear it. >> larry: it's improving it? >> yeah. >> it's improving it.
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we always say like, you know, most historic stuff goes down with age, you know, winston churchill's old papers go brown and crinkly, but our music gets brighter and shinier. >> larry: how do they do it? >> i don't know. >> next will be 10.1. >> larry: we'll be back with yoko, olivia, and guy. ♪ i am here ♪ as you are here ♪ as you are me ♪ and we are all together ♪ see how they run ♪ like pigs from a gun ♪ see how they climb ♪ sitting on a calm lake ♪ waiting for the van to come
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♪ nothing you can know that isn't known ♪ ♪ nothing you can see that isn't shown ♪ ♪ no way you can be the way it isn't meant to be ♪ ♪ it's easy
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♪ all you need it love ♪ all you need is love ♪ all you need is love love ♪ love is all you need ♪ all you need is love ♪ all together now >> larry: this is historic. they're all together. paul mccartney, ringo starr, yoko ono. >> it's great to look at george, and it's very emotional, too. >> so it's -- mixed emotions? >> i was trying to avoid that emotion, bittersweet, but it is like that. >> larry: yoko, what's it like? >> it's very difficult, sometimes.
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i feel that i got used to sort of just watching these movies and all that, but when i saw the stage yesterday, at one point suddenly i just felt choked up. i don't know why, but -- >> larry: do you get nervous about every performance? >> no. >> larry: how many cirque de soleil's going now? >> about 1,000 artists. >> larry: do you sit up there and think, he's going to fall? >> you know where things are at risk, there's always that moment of tension, but i have great confidence in the people working for me. >> ring go, do you have to play drums a lot? do you have to keep in shape? >> no. in a word. i've never been able to like sit around on my own and play drums, like practice in a back room. never been able to. i've always played with other musicians. >> that's unique, isn't it? >> it's how i play. there's no joy for me just to be on my own, bashing away.
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i need a bass player, piano, guitar, whatever, and now i can play. >> larry: and when you're drumming, do you know how good they're singing? >> well, i play with the singer. if you listen to the beatles songs, the tracks. >> larry: you play for the singer. >> i play for the singer. if he's singing there's no good me boogying all over the kit. so stay out, if it needs to be raised, you raise it, bring it down, and in the band we're talking about, we had a lot of good singing. >> larry: what made the beatles, paul, musically special? what did they do that people weren't doing? >> that's a good question. i don't really think i know. we were just very good. i think individually we were kind of talented people, but when we came together, something special happened.
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when i started writing with john, it was a sort of magical thing that grew. we developed, and not everyone developed quite as much as we did. >> larry: you can't plan that, though, can you? >> not really. we were also very sure of ourselves. i wouldn't call it conceited, but we just knew we were good, and we knew we were going to do well. we didn't know how it was going to happen, but we knew -- people would say at the time, do you think your stuff's going to be standards, like sinatra's stuff? and i'd say, yeah. they'd say, oh. i'd say, no, it's true. you just felt it. >> i think one of the things that we probably are proudest of, i certainly am, is that the message was always love. in any form we portrayed it, and that's something to be really proud of. >> larry: did george miss the group? >> i think he did, you know? you know all of them had their own time apart, but i think he did. i think he always liked to have
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-- he used to say sometimes, i wish you played the saxophone or -- wish you were a drummer. >> i must say the first time i met, so to speak, i was pretty surprised that they have a sense of humor. that was a big thing. all the composers i used to meet up or do things together, they were very serious people. composers were serious. these guys were just -- there was a fun element. >> larry: we're close in time. we've got a production finale, we're all going to go out with a beat, the show's going to begin. we had a quick vote, cnn.com/larryking, we asked you to pick your favorite beatles album. what one? >> what one? abbey road, followed by sergeant pepper and the white album came in third. ♪
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>> larry: well, we're back stage, the whole crew is here, right? it's the cast for cirque de soleil and the beatles love show. what we're going to do now, oh, my gosh, it's almost show time. we're going to walk into the theater. i'll sort of lead the way. we all go in together. come. [ applause ] [ applause ]

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