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it is not over yet. will not be until every last miner steps out of the pod. for more on this remarkable chapter we turn things over to larry king and a special edition of "larry king live." larry? >> larry: thank you, anderson. what a night. you know, i was thinking about this, we have witnessed, ladies and gentlemen, we have witnessed something never witnessed ever before ever. ever. an incredible and dramatic ordeal is finally ending for the trapped miners. as we speak, one of the miners has made it out of the mine. 32 more awaiting to be taken to the top. in fact, mario sepulveda should
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arrive, if all goes well, in about 11 minutes. for the second one. there is no way to express in words what a story this is for the miners, for the people of chile, for the country, for nasa who helped so much and those people there, the rescue workers who spent all this time. remember they said it would be christmas and here it is early october. they got them out. they were trapped in august. let's take a look at the first miner making it to the surface. watch.
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[ cheers ] >> larry: you are watching a second live edition of "larry king live" on this historic day and morning. it is a little after 1:00 a.m. in chile. joining us is gary tuchman.
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gary, sometimes word cans fail. >> reporter: no question about it, larry. tell me if you feel this way. this reminded me of july 20, 1969 when neal armstrong and buzz aldren stepped on the moon for the first time. you are waiting, you are tense. it took 15 minutes. it finally came up, the capsule and out stepped the first miner. not only do you have one miner, but a second miner who we hope will come up safe in about seven minutes but it shows this capsule can work with a human being inside. they tested the capsule without a human being. they didn't know until the first miner made it up that it would definitely, 100% work. it has. that gives a lot of comfort to the family members for the other 32 miners who are 2,300 feet
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below us. >> larry: in this incredible world of communication, we have witnessed something, gary, never witnessed before ever. >> reporter: yeah. i would call this the ultimate live shots. we are in a remote part of chile, in south america, about 500 miles north of the capital of santiago. this area has been a mine for generations. there has never been anyone who lives near here. they travel 45 minutes to the nearest city. now it has become this little city. tent hope. they hope for a good outcome. for the first time ever there are a couple of thousand people who live here, the city with no comforts, no sanitation. we are sleeping in tents on the desert dirt, there are no bathrooms, port-a-potties. no showers.
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that is what the family members are dealing with. their family members want to be here. we want to be here covering it. these miners are almost a half mile under ground and we are showing live pictures of this drama. it is an incredible day for the miners, their families and frankly for broadcast journalism. >> reporter: you are not kidding. interesting, the second miner who will be up shortly, mario e sepulveda, a major artery in los angeles, sepulveda boulevard. >> reporter: we know it is named after another sepulveda. after this over, october 13th, when the first man came up october 13th because it was after midnight, october 13th may
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become a national holiday in chile and sepulveda boulevard may be named after the second miner who is about to come up. >> larry: when he is he due? this should be, what, another minute or so? two minutes. >> reporter: he started at 11:55 eastern time. it is 12:05. the first miner came in 15 minutes. so it should be five minutes away. >> larry: patrick alfman, you are with a number of relatives, are you not? what are they feeling now? >> reporter: the people here are so happy. this is the hometown of many, many miners. here is a fellow miner right here. a man by the name of raul cortez. he worked in the same mine. he said it is a very dangerous
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mine. the chilean president said the mine would be closed. a few minutes ago when the first miner was pulled to the surface, people went crazy, shouting, crying, jumping up and down. we will probably see the scene again when this crowd gets to see the second miner reach the surface. it is a very exciting moment. people are waving the flags. it is past midnight in chile. the crowd has stayed strong here. people coming in the square, they are sitting down. a lot of people say they will stay here throughout the night into the morning until all 33 miners are freed and we're just waiting now for mario sepulveda to reach the surface. when he does we know people will go crazy. it is such an exciting moment. we have a large mining community in this town and people, for them, it is not -- here we go.
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here we go. we are starting to hear the cries. the emotion. the voices. the flags waving. any minute now mario se spul ve da will be up at the surface. let's listen in. the excitement is building copiapo. the home of many of these miners. >> larry: let's just watch. >> reporter: you are starting to see the top of the capsule, larry. you heard a cry of vive chile from the mineshaft, larry. you are starting to hear some horns here. the electricity in the air here,
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larry, is incredible. incredible excitement. people watching with baited breath. they have their hands over their mouths. every eye is glued to the screen, larry. you can just cut the tension with a knife. they want to see another miner being brought to the surface, another miner being brought safely to the surface. moments ago when the first miner was brought to the surface, people went insane here. we are waiting now, any minute now we will see the second miner brought to the surface. and here we go. you hear the clapping, larry. people are getting very excited. >> larry: if it is the same time as the first one, it should be in 30 seconds.
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>> reporter: here we go, larry. here we go. listen to the crowd. let's listen to the crowd. yells of vive mineros, one with the miners. incredible excitement with copiapo, chile. a mining town tonight with the home of the 33 miners. flags waving, larry. i'm seeing tears in the eyes of people. and this crowd is just caught in an unimaginable moment. the second rescued miner. is brought to the surface.
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his long ordeal tloos is over. we have seen a second miner in chile freed. >> larry: the president of chile hugging mario sepulveda, the second miner to emerge to safety. while we watch this incredible scene, we are joined in morgantown, west virginia, by dr. julian bales. he treated randall mccloy, the
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sole survivor of the sago mine disaster. dr. bales, coming up in the dark, because of what light might do to their eyes, how long will they have to keep glasses on? they haven't seen sunlight since august? >> i don't know if anybody knows for certain. i think fairly soon they will get reacclimated to the light as well as everything else about being home and up on the surface again. >> larry: what about pressure, temperature and the like. >> i think they have been in a hotter environment. i think the body is able to readjust to that fairly soon. i don't think that will be a major problem either. >> larry: your field is neurosurgery. is there any neurosurgical effect of this? >> hopefully not. hopefully not. i wouldn't imagine so. i think we look at the
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experience of the environment down below for the 68 days and we look at what may happen upon the ascent and the emergence back to life on the surface of the earth and i doubt they will have any problem that will need neurosurgical or neurological intensive care. >> larry: what about shock? >> well, shock, i think would be, if they came up and had a problem with blood pressure from dehydration or the effects of being down so long with kidney problems or others. they were in reasonably good air or very good air compared to other miners in the past such as the sago mine disaster as you mentioned. shock shouldn't be a problem either as long as they make the ascent okay without vomiting and dehydration or anything like that occurring. >> larry: gary tuchman, how far
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are you from this scene we are seeing right now? >> reporter: we are about three football fields away from the scene there is an irony, we, me and about 150 other journalists from 39 countries are closest. we don't see it the way you see it. it is like an nfl football game, you can see it better on the tvs, but the spirit is here with the historic and heart warming scenes. >> larry: doctor bales, you treeded randall mccloy. >> he was the longest known survivor, 41 1/2 hours, 2.5 miles deep. randy made a complete recovery
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>> larry: we're joined by mike rowe, the host of "dirty jobs." the new season returns to discovery october 19th. he was trapped in a cave in k kentucky. dr. charles sophie is with us, the psychiatrist who treats post traumatic stress. mike, you host "dirty jobs." this is an example of the result of dirty jobs. >> this is the mother of all dirty jobs. i can't believe what i'm looking at. thank you for bringing me in here. there is landing on the moon. there is this. a short list of events people aren't going to forget watching and this is somewhere near the top. >> larry: you were trapped in a cave for how long? >> wl, i was trapped for maybe 20 seconds.
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i was in a horse cave kentucky and we were essentially mapping the underground area of that state and going into an area where nobody had been. the passageway got smaller and smaller and smaller and i found myself in the mud with half a mile of granite over the top of me. the point being for the first ten seconds, this is bad, i'm stuck. in the next five seconds i completely panicked. maybe ten seconds after that they unstuck me, for the last 2 1/2 months i look at these guys and think how is it possible to maintain your sanity in a situation like this. i'm in awe of these guys. >> larry: dr. sophie, what will be the effects. there will be post traumatic stress, will there not?
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>> yes. i think what we really need to do is get them up, get them connected with their families and let the dust settle. make sure they are medically okay. you want to make sure they weren't down there without their medications all that kind of stuff and see what emerges. you can't be trapped like that without having some emotion, you are anxious, your are depressed, you are scared, you start diagnosing and treating. >> larry: psychiatrically, what is the worst fear? >> post traumatic stress. they have shown us strength and given the world a lot of strength. >> larry: we've learned a lot about bonding. let's hop to new york. adrianna houser is with us, she
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is a cnn espanol correspondent. she is at a chilean restaurant. a lot of people there? >> reporter: hi, larry. it seems all 8,000 chileans who lived in new york state were here. it seemed like it. they were all cheering, clapping, a lot of energy, a lot of excitement. it almost seems like they were here to see the first rescue with their own eyes and slowly made their way out. it is tuesday. it is the middle of the work week and a lot of people changed their routines to be here. we have two people here, one american, one chilean. we will start with kyle. kyle, thank you for being with us tonight. i understand you visited the san jose mine, is that correct? >> that is correct. i have been in that mine personally myself. yes. >> reporter: can you tell us what it looked like, can you
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imagine somebody being trapped for over two months? >> the possibility of being trapped, being in any cave you might imagine, the worst possible conditions you can imagine, being underground like that is unimaginable. absolutely unimaginable. >> reporter: what makes you feel now you know two of the miners are out? >> i mean, the world help they have had here, bringing everyone together and chile coming together as a country and pulling everyone out, it is just fantastic. >> reporter: here with us is christian. christian is chilean, has been in new york for 16 years. thank you for being with us. what does this occasion make you feel now the two miners are out? >> thank you very much. it makes me feel it wasn't just an event for chile, but the whole world. it brought a lot of countries and people together especially miners here in the states and australia who have had difficulties being trapped
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underground for days. it is a great example for that 17, 18 days worked together and pulled through. >> reporter: worth for you staying up this late? >> definitely. >> reporter: larry, the chilean consul was here, the bolivian consul was here. there are tons of solidarity. a dedication book. all these yellow helmets i don't know if you can see behind me, yellow helmets like hard hats like the ones miners would wear, they have the number 33 for the 33 miners. they have the name esperanza for the name of the camp. every miner that reaches the surface gives these people reasons to stay up late. >> larry: thank you. good reporting. mike rowe and dr. sophie will stay with us. you stay with us, too, with this
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>> larry: we're back with mike rowe and dr. charles sophie. joining us on the phone is stanley stewart. stanley is a miner who survived the explosion at the upper big branch mine in west virginia april 5th of this year. 29 miners were killed in that disaster. the worst mining accident in the
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united states in four decades. stanley, what goes through your mind as you watch this tonight? >> well, larry, a flood of emotions. i think everyone knows as a coal miner, it doesn't matter where a coal miner is hurt, trapped or killed, a piece of another coal miner's heart goes out to him because we know what we have to deal with in there every day and when this first happened it was bleak and almost seemed hopeless. and for these drillers to come from all over the world and do what they did and looks like it is going to be a miraculous ending, i'm just flooded with emotion and tickled to death. >> larry: as a miner, can you explain how well those 33 bonded together for this period of time? >> yes. i think them guys banded
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together because the camaraderie among miners, they have a sense of humor, they make the best of the worst situations and when they realize that there was help coming i think they came together better. and i know they can't wait to see the light of day because i've worked for sometimes two and three weeks at a time and not seen the light of day and it would bother me mentally. when i would finally get to see the sun, i would just stand and stare at it, larry. it is hard to explain. but the coal miner appreciates the outside world much better. >> larry: mike rowe, i know you are around some people who do odd things and different kind of jobs, but there seem, mike, to be nothing like the miner. >> there is nothing like the miner. there is nothing like the mining industry. if you think about it, i can't think of a single industry that
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doesn't depend mining and miners. it is the oldest industry, even older than agriculture, i think. everything we need we pull from the ground, from the desk i'm sitting in front of to the camera i'm looking into. it is an extraordinary disconnect when you consider the contributions that guys like stanley make. i have been in copper mines, coal mines, salt mines, i hear the same thing when i talk to these guys over and over and over again. they know what their contribution is to civilized life, but so many of us don't. when we turn the light switch on it is because somebody somewhere is burning coal that is creating steam and turning a turbine. we don't think of it that way. after 3,000 dirty jobs and a chance to meet guys like stanley, there is no among the
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underappreciated workers on the face of thor and often time below the surface. and we would be well advised, it, to have a better understanding of what it is they do day in and day out. >> what kind of person are these 33 and stanley is on the phone with us. what kind of person is this? >> psychologically, they're strong people. this is a job that takes them and disconnects them from the world. they do that on a daily basis. you have to be really strong and have a good foundation to begin to even want to do that kind of job. to be able to tolerate it and handle it day after day. they're strong people. they're strong. they have a good constitution. their mental well being already hopefully -- >> where does that come from? >> probably from good parenting. good upbringing. knowing the job. practicing at it but really, it starts as a kid. you're a good person and you don't have fears and anxiety that's will stir up when you are cut off from the world. as i think mike was saying, and
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stanley was saying. it good in there and the first few minutes, it is okay. and then it settles in. the anxiety starts to bubble. if you don't have that ability, the apparatus inside yourself to keep it at bay, you'll break. >> stanley, did you think you would lose your life? >> yes, larry. i felt that way on many different occasions. and the april 5 explosion was the second one that i walked away from. you know, that's our job. >> why youie would you go back? >> at this particular time, larry, i don't believe i can go back again. i'm having my problems. i don't want to give it a third chance. >> that's not surprising, is it? >> no. your constitution breaks, you get some clarity and you don't want to push your luck. you have to get yourself under
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control. some of the symptoms can be so overwhelming. maybe stanley knows from his own experience, sleeping. all that stuff that's disturb and not enough to want to go back in. >> these 33 will have some problems, aren't they? >> i think they will for a while. they'll have to get used to it. they've been in there a long time. it is going to be like coming back out into a new world. because working underground, it is a different world, you know? no one could understand it unless they were there. you go in. you come out every day. they've been there since august. so they're going to have some readjusting to do. >> stanley, this is a lot of stanley stewart who survived that upper big branch mine that 29 miners were killed. mike roe of dirty jobs that returns to discovery on tuesday the 19th. will stay with us. dr. charlie sophie, dr. julian bails will return. we'll go back to the mines as well. don't go away.
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the rescue of the third miner is coming up.
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mike roe and dr. charles sophie remain. dr. julian bails, chairman of the department of neurosurgery at the university of west virginia remains. we take you back to the scene and show it to you. as seen in chile at that san jose mine. the capsule is going down to pick up the third miner. as greg christianson, one of our key producers at cnn just said to me, it is a little mind-boggling, isn't it? mike, we'll start with you. we're all the way here. we're in los angeles. you're in san francisco. dr. bails is in west virginia. and we're seeing the scene below the earth from chile. >> yeah. i think mind-boggling is exactly
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the right way to put it. we're just looking around here in the control room and everybody is kind of shrugging their shoulders as if to say i can't believe we're watching this. the thing that occurred to me, i don't want to put words in anyone's mouth. i can't get over the fact that every day these guys do what they do. but it is not until you have a sego. not until you have some kind of calamity. it seal like some kind of cosmic tap on the shoulder where the whole world goes, oh, yeah, right. they are basically holding polite society together. let's see what happens. i'm really wondering, a week or two weeks from now or maybe a month if stories like the are going to somehow make it a little more likely for the rest of us go to be a little more mindful of the fact, like we were discussing before. when we flicked the switch and the light come on. it is not magic. guys like this somewhere underground getting dirty. and doing this right.
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>> well put. would you comment on that, dr. bails? >> well, i agree. i agree. i had mike is absolutely right. i think the world is witnessing an epic struggle of these miners. we're reminded as we were with the sago mine, with the upper big branch mine disaster, what can happen. what debt we owe these miners every time we flick the switch and live our lifestyle. so it from my pointed of view, we're fascinated also to see what if any medical consequences come from this prolonged exposure. >> larry: dr. sophie, would you agree, right? we don't know, know, do we? >> no. we don't know. i think it is important to see that they brought people together across the world in a commonality of people being human and carrying about each other. and i think it is a great thing that they've been able to bring to us through this calamity. >> larry: to quota now famous quote, mike, why can't we all
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just get along? >> well, because, it is more interesting, i think, sometime to make trouble, you know? and i can tell that you in material of dirty jobs, whether it is miners or commercial fishermen, farmers, skilled tradesmen. you don't have to look far to find that there's also a group of people. it just seems like in the last 20 or 30 years who have been weirdly informingen about. somewhat marginalized. the great irony is without them doing what they do, what are we? who are we? until we see something like the this. it is as if the rest us learn the same lessons over and over and over again. and every miner i've ever talked to this about just confirms that for me. they nod and smile and they know who is getting the work done. and the rest of us, we forget. >> larry: you're watching a live shot now. waiting for the arrival of the capsule that will bring up the
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third miner. juan palma. the first was florenceo. he became a cameraman during the isolation filming videos to be sent to the rescuers and to the relatives. his brother is also trapped in that mine. the second one we saw was mario sepulveda. he is 40 years old. spokesman and video narrator. he assumed the role of spokesman for the miners, appearing on camera. and he narrated many of the videos that were sent to the surface. now the next gentleman we'll see is juan, 52 years old, electrical mechanic. he served as a corporal for chile in their conflicts against argentina. and he has reported as well for the bbc. he will be number 3 coming up as soon as that capsule arrives.
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it takes a little above 15 minutes to come up. there will be 33, and of course, people going down to help them come up as well. i think 38 people in all will wind up coming to the surface. it could take up to 48 years old. we'll check in with our correspondents from chile right after this. what we will do now is watch them load juan illanes palma into that capsule. i guess they're getting pretty good at this. >> it is not the kind of thing where there is a ton of margin for error, obviously. the first couple, you have to hole your breath. man, the last two or three. i still don't fully understand how they went through the whole
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protocol of who goes when. i was imagining just the most intense and competitive game in the history of the game. >> larry: how would you have conducted it, dr. bailes? would you pull out little notes and pull out a number? >> i don't know. that's a good question. apparently, you know, there were some, there was a hierarchy and some felt the responsibility to be last. wanted to be last. i don't know. i'm sure it was very well thought through. >> larry: someone said, that the last one up will write the book. they'll all get book offers, i guess, and magazine offers and the like. the guy who writes the book, he is the last man below. that's the title already. last man below. it is a commercial world, is it not? mike, it is a commercial world. you're going to have one of these guys on dirty jobs, aren't you? >> you know what? i'll make a standing offer right
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now. in fact, i would be thrilled to go over there and meet them personally. i'll brush up on my spanish. maybe you can help me actually. you're doing a heck of a job this evening. >> larry: i've got it phonetically spelled out for me. i'm not too good with language. i can't see too well. who has a good shot of this? are they loading juan in now? i can't tell because there are some people blocking the screen. can anyone help me? is juan getting in? we'll to have prep the capsule. whatever that means. how do you prep a capsule? [ speaking spanish ] >> larry: i'm just letting this run. anyone can comment. >> one of the thing that up earlier, how would you know who
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to come up. hopefully if somebody had a medical problem or an urgent need, they would be the first. maybe that's the way they did it. >> although from what i heard, they sent something stronger guys up first, i think. not being 100% certain if the. the thing would function perfectly. they didn't want someone who was in a really weakened state to somehow be stranded between the top and the bottom. >> larry: good point. >> just guessing. >> larry: we'll take a break here. we'll come back. if they're in the process of loading, we'll break from the breaks and cut in. we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] throughout our lives, we encounter new opportunities. at the hartford we can help you pursue them with confidence.
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>> larry: as they're getting ready to put juan illanes palma into the capsule, he is the third to come up. we'll check in. there is a spanish journalist also talking so we hope we can hear carl clearly. carl, what is the latest from where you are? [ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: standing by these miners. as each miner go down, each
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miner come back up, there are cheers -- >> i'm sorry. what's happening is carl -- we have to kill that. carl is in a congested area and there is obviously another spanish correspondent, must be right next to him reporting for another outlet. and they're conflicting sounds. it wasn't clear to hear. we're with dr. julian bailes. dr. sophy mentioned something interesting. what about the families psychologically? >> we have to remember, these were people up on the top. yes, they were breathing, they had each other. but they're also traumatized. we have to make sure we pay enough attention to them after they get reunited to see what role they'll play in treatment. they may need treatment themselves to rebond or to go with a lot of small children had to deal with the fact that maybe they wouldn't see their parents again. those things have to be taken
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into account. >> larry: is it true sometime in separation, families break? >> absolutely. they were weak to begin with. there is an excuse now. sometime they were not strong enough to begin. with >> larry: do you agree that families will need attention? >> absolutely. i think that will be a big, big part of them as they reunite. it will be the brain readjusting, not only on the sunlight issue. the issues of the other medical aspects but also the psychological point of view for both. absolutely. >> larry: mike, you work around people as we say in dirty jobs, a lot. how do you explain to yourself based on the cursory way we saw these, how well these 33 seemed to get along? >> you know, i've never, of course, been any kind of situation close to this. but i would think it is a combination of necessity and
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practicality. i was just reading the stephen king book called under the dome. it has been out for a while. about this town in maine that is caught under this crazy sort of see-through impenetrable dome. and what happens to them in this town. the world can't get to them and they're force essentially to come to term with themselves and with each other. and basically start oh. and as this whole thing was unfolding for me, the most heart renteding, fascinating part were those first 17 days or so. when they didn't know anyone knew they were alive. and no one on the outside knew they were alive. what sorts of conversations must they have been having about how their swoet work and if somehow they were lucky enough to get food, what was it going to be like? i can't even imagine how that conversation must have played out. >> larry: by the way, there, you see the spinning wheel on top. and there begins the ascension
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of the capsule. and that capsule is carrying juan illanes palma. he is 52 years old. electrical mechanic. he served as a corporal for chile in chile's conflict against argentina. there's the wheel that turns the capsule that brings the capsule up. it takes about 15 minutes. so it will arrive approximately five minutes after the hour of -- it will be 1:00 in the east and 2:00 a.m. in chile. and at that time, cnn international will be taking over. i wonder, this is a pure -- what is going through, what would you guess, dr. sophy, is going through juan's mind now? >> probably feeling a little bit anxious about leaving his friends down there. >> larry: really. >> they've bonded tight. there was no room for games down there. >> larry: but he will see his family in 14 minutes. >> that's the conflict.
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you're leaving one family you've just made and you're going to your other family. so yes, it is a begin but it is a lot of conflict. i'm sure it will override the joy to be with his family. >> larry: we understand carl has another mike and we'll be able to hear him clearly. the third, juan palma is on his way up. what can you tell us from your viewpoint there near the mine? >> reporter: yes, as you say, juan illanes is on his way up. i'm going to tell you on the counter there, well, he has done about 300 feet so far. so still got a ways to go. that will probably take him a good ten more minutes to come up. but here at camp hope, thistent village where the families have been camping out. awaiting for news of each and every miner since this disaster began. and as each miner has come to the surface, there has been pure joy. pure joy followed by hugs and
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tears. tears of joy but also a release of the zpres the anxiety that they have been clearly feeling throughout the day as the moments tick down. at one point the relative and family members broke out into a rendition of the national anthem as well. when the second miner mario sepulveda came up, there were a lot of laughs, too. because mario sepulveda, we became very familiar with him in the course of the disaster. he was the miner that tendered to narrate the video that's the miners sent back up to the surface. and he was a joker as well. he kept the miners in high spirits on those videos, cracking jokes with every miner. as he came up in the fenix 2 rescue capsule, he still had one more joke in store. because larry, aboard that fenix 2 capsule, he had smuggled a bag of rocks. as he came out of the fenix capsule, he hugged the president
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of chile. he hugged the mines minister. and the next thing he did was produce a rock for the top officials of the state. he handed the president a gray rock from the collapsed mine. he handed the mines minister a gray rock from the mine. a joke swhark ironic. he then turned and hugged his wife elvira. an accountant from the city, the capital city of santiago, has stood by her man throughout this crisis. in fact, she refused to give up her job. instead, brought her accountancy books up to the mine and continued to fill out tax receipts. tax reports for her clients while she was waiting for news of her husband. tonight, they were reunited. and after he had given his wife a hug, he then went to the rescue workers. the rescue workers who have been drilling. who have been looking. who have been searching, who have been refusing to give up on
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these miners for 69 days now. these miners are very grateful to more than 1,000 rescue workers who have been involved in this operation. and he ran over to them. he started to hug them. he shook hands with them. and he led them in a chant that he has also been leading the miners down in the hole in the same chant. a chance of chile. and he chants and he pumps his fist in the air and he leads that chant of chile among the rescue workers. he brought his humor to the surface and he brought that chant back to the surface. and right now, he is in the clinic being checked over by medics to make sure he is okay. and then again he will be led into a room where he can meet with also with his daughter and young son as well, larry. >> larry: thank you. great job of reporting. carl, what terrific journalists we've had on this scene. let's get another quick in from our cnn platform journalist who
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has been witnessing this and will continue on through the rest. cnn international will be taking over in about four minutes. lets get another quick comment from patrick before we have a final comment from our panel. patrick? what do you make of all this? patrick unfortunately is not hearing us. we only have a few minutes left. will he check back in with the panel. dr. bailes? we've never seen anything like this. there will be lots of talk about it in the days ahead. let's hope that it is not soon forgotten. there is that danger, is there not? in a 24-hour news world? >> there absolutely is. we hope we learn from it. also we were encourage that had medically, they look in great shape. and it they're surviving the ascend. and congratulations to all of these designed the technology and pulled this off. >> larry: this was amazing stuff here. >> unbelievably amazing.
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i think we as a world should embrace these wonderful feelings and the ability to pull together as peel, as humans, at basic levels, to be able to work as a team for each other and survive. >> larry: and i think we can get a word in now from him on the scene. he's been there throughout. patrick, we have about a minute. do you want to give us a little wind-up before we go to cnni and you'll be reporting for them as well? >> reporter: absolutely. it is already almost 2:00 a.m. in chile. and look at the people still out here. still other people out. people coming and going. still lots of people here behind me. people with flags. people with banners. they will be here all night. they will be watching as each miner is pulled up, a the miners are brought to the surface, larry. >> larry: thank you, great job. they'll continue to do a great
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job around the clock. as they always do here at cnn-i. >> unbelievable. i have to tell what you made that last piece of reporting so interesting for me, something we always forget about. people with dirty job and people that really work the way these guys work. humor. that guy brought up what are now going to be half a dozen of the most famous paper weights since the moon rock came back. and he was smiling. and i'm sure, i wish i would have answered your earlier question better with this response. because i'm sure what really went on down there from time to time, over the course of these last couple of months, was real humor. you just can't underestimate the importance of having that on the job site. we expect to see drudgery. when we find humor, well, at the risk of sounding a little too earnest, we find hope. >> larry: the men under pressure, there was humor in the holocaust. they were in prison.
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>> it's strength. it's strength. >> larry: people brought together in circumstances. >> it is all strength. >> larry: dr. bailes, from the way we look so far, i think we'll have some pretty good recoveries, are not we? >> it sure looks that way. i'm very encouraged by the condition. not only physically but psychologically as we've been mentioning, including the humor. >> larry: and mike, your final comment before we turn it oh to cnn-i. >> i would say that reality tv is what it is. and sometime the whole country gets obsessed with whatever is being produced. moments like this, i'm sitting here and i'm looking at it and realizing whatever it is, we call reality that passes for tv is nonsense compared to what really is happening right in front of us. thank you for having me in here. i'll never forget it. >> larry: thank you. thank you, mike. neither will we. what a night. what an event. as we said when we started this second edition of

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