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short of remarkable. >> remarkable. inspiring. true-life drama unfolding with our eyes and a programming note. "american morning" tomorrow is covering the debate. >> that's right. you're on your way to delaware. >> grabbing a train right now. talking the day after how the debate between o'donnell and coons, the senate candidates in delaware, has gone. >> see you again bright and early tomorrow morning. the news continues here with kyra phillips and your thoughts. >> i tell you. what a moment. working on the audio, there we go, we're clear. it's amazing. i mean, we are talking about all these moments being so emotional and so passionate. but at the same time, i think we have all recognized how faithful these guys are. i mean, that was amazing when gomez came up and dropped to his knees in prayer. incredible. i'm being told right now -- oh, okay. do we have him -- is this the shot of the 12th miner coming
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up? oh, okay. we are going to continue with the live pictures. kiran, john, thank you so much. historic. it's emotional. it's a moment of national pride for chile and let me tell you what. it is hard to turn away. here's just a glimpse of some of the moments you might have missed since you've woken up. [ applause ] >> i'll have my dad by me again. i'll be able to hug him. >> chile! [ chanting ]
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>> heartwarming, isn't it? miners one by one traveling back to their lives and their loved ones from running into the crowd to dropping to their knees in prayer. you can't help but fall in love with each one of these guys. we're going to keep talking about this all morning as we're watching this and talking about the scope of the rescue. it's unprecedented and the joy at the scene is pretty much unbridled. 11 men rescued so far. working on number 12 right now but once they reach the surface, they're briefly united with their loved ones. we wish it could be longer because that's some of the most emotional time and then loaded into a helicopter and they're rushed for medical evaluations and that's where our cnn's patrick oppman is right now there at the hospital where they have been coming in to and patrick, mine, so far we have been talking about the issues the guys are dealing with. hypertension, black lung.
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but at the same time, it seems like their energy and excitement and just adrenaline, you would never know it because they don't hold back the emotions for a second. no matter what they're struggling with. >> no, they're feeling something no one felt before, kyra. a record number of days underground a. ordeal beyond words. and this is the hospital that on august 5th got the call that there's a miner accident. this is the ground zero for what they thought was one of the worst mining accidents in chile's history. that is not playing out like that. and just one of the strokes of luck since august 5th preparing the hospital. upgrading the hospital and bringing in experts, different machines and equipment and on the second and fourth floors behind me, those are the new homes for the miners. at least for several days, kyra. doctors not taking any risks even though they're in touch
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with the men every day. they're measuring their bio metrics on a daily basis and a full range of health and mental check-ups and we're in that period of the miner who is are really in the worst health. suffering from hypertension, suffering from black lung, suffering from just the crushing claustrophobia of months in a mine. it's also worth saying, worth noting we are in the heart of copiapo. this is the hometown of most of these miners and last night we were in the plaza. the downtown of this small mining community. and people just lost it. there was a build-up for so long. the men on august 5th left to go work in the mines. they're returning now today as heroes. their lives and the lives of the this community forever changed. >> and patrick, just to make the point, we have talked about a number of things they're dealing with. from dibt to black lung to
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hypertension but so far can we say nothing life threatening? >> absolutely correct. and you have to remember, too, that these gentlemen haven't been sitting around waiting to be rescued but working very, very hard. they've been clearing up to 12 tons of rubble every day. with some of the machinery left over in the mine and that's rubble coming down. that plan "b" drilling hole as the drill got closer and closer. they had to clear that rubble. some men had to lose weight to get into the tiny rescue capsule and running, jogging. over 2,300 feet beneath the earth. what an experience for them and staying fit. not only to the physical benefits but for the mental benefits, as well, kyra, trying to stay positive throughout the whole ordeal. >> amazing to see how positive they have been watching the 12 guys come up that -- 12th on the
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way. thanks. 11 guys make it to the surface. good news so far. they're dealing as you heard from pat with various ailments and nothing life threatening. one of the guys has black lung and another one has diabetes. all of them have spent more than two months as you know in conditions that the human body just isn't designed for. we want to talk more about that and the shape they tried to stay in this order to survive the 60-plus days. our medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joining us with that on a conference out there in pasadena, california. looks like you have had to put that aside to talk about the remarkable story since last night. i was watching you. i guess the first thing i want to ask you is, are you surprised or not surprised about the fact that these guys so far 11 of them have come out with nothing
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so far that's been life threatening? >> pleasantly surprised i think is the best way to characterize this. i say that because, you know, you're getting used to see the images of these men coming up looking healthy, smiling, obviously. and i think hopefully that's an image to continue throughout the entire rescue mission. i think it will be but it's really reflective of so much planning and preparation going into this and worth stating again. i mean, kyra, you have seen other mining disasters, other situations like this where even after a few days, people who have been rescued have just been very debilitated and not looked nearly as healthy as these men coming up the way they look. and i think that reflects the types of food they have been given. hydration, obviously. after 17 days or so without adequate hydration. they did after that. the medications for some of them
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that needed it. just the overall planning of the entire rescue mission so you cannot overstate just what a big deal it is that these miners coming up look as good as they do. it is quite remarkable. people half a mile down in the ground, some of them with preexisting health conditions. potential health concerns and yet the outcome, a positive one, kyra. it's terrific i think from a medical and health standpoint. >> okay. and let's stepping away from the medical side for a moment because you and i talk a lot about this off camera and on camera, too. let's talk about the spiritual side for a second. and the power of faith in something like this. and we've watched it from the very beginning. we saw mario gomez come out of the mine, not too long ago. he was the spiritual leader down there in the mine. he was the one that when he came up, dropped to his knees in prayer. and you've studied this. you know that this part of
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medicine is incorporated to a number of medical schools now. the power of faith and prayer and plays into the minds of all of these guys when you have somebody down there, whether they're believers or not, it is another powerful tool. >> and it's not just the anecdotal or the subjective anymore, kyra. what you are describing, this idea that they believe now for so long, that they were going to get rescued, obviously, the first couple of weeks there was no knowledge of what happened to the miners but after that, there's sbn this sort of unbridled enthusiasm and hope, belief they would be rescued. what that does to someone's physical manifestations is not just anoek dotal, it gives someone the will to survive. the will to live and that's more measurable than it ever has been before. you're absolutely right. the spiritual aspect is a big deal. also, say, kyra, having covered
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other stories where you have this sort of heroic period as they call it now, media attention, resources, obviously, a lot of enthusiasm of what's happening now. for the miners, i think they draw strength from that, as well. of course, you know, a few weeks now when the attention starts to divert a bit, it is important to maintain that upbeat optimism going forward. may be a period of let down for them and being able to talk to each other and the strength from each other is so important. a couple of weeks and months from now, kyra. >> and, you know, talking about the issue of claustrophobia, a lot of us have been wondering about this. in order to be a miner, that's something that you just can't be claustrophobic and if you are that's got to be a real struggle but that was one of the concerns that these guys would possibly have a panic attack or some
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anxiety or claustrophobia. explain that dynamic. is possible to never be claustrophobic and then without sleep and adrenaline pumping and then in this tight tube, knowing that you're minutes away from freedom, can that kick in and -- because so far it doesn't look like we have seen that. can that happen? >> yeah. you know, it's a great point, kyra. i think a lot of people who -- these miners trained for working in the confined spaces and coming up the tube. you have seen the images like everyone else. coming up, seeing nothing but rock really around you. people who have never had claustrophobia before in their lives could have a component of claustrophobia and anxiety, panic attack. people can become what's known as -- you drop your blood pressure, feel lightheaded, faint, pass out. there's discussion, kyra, as you
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may know should some sedation be offered for the rescue mission itself and that idea taken off the table because they felt it was much more important to communicate with the miners directly. have them wide awake for a two-way dialogue if necessary as they were being rescued. again, what you are seeing unfolding here, kyra, in some ways writes the playbook for how to conduct a rescue mission like this should it ever occur again in the future. but you're absolutely right. and i think that there were so many considerations including what is it going to feel like as they're brought through the tube and the small little capsule. >> sanjay, let's pause for a moment. miner number 12, edison pena coming in from the fenix capsule. let's just listen for a moment.
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if you are just tuning in right now, the 12th miner coming up. here we go. edison pena, age 34. i'm hearing possibly his mom there to greet him. let's let the moment unfold here. checking him out. getting him out of the capsule. now, here's a fun little tidbit. edison, a big elvis presley fan and sent a request for music sent down into the mine to lead the group in sing-alongs. wasn't the chilean anthem from the beginning and hearing all
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the 12th miner is out. 33 miners trapped in the mine for more than 2 months and getting to kiss their wives, moms, children. finally getting up to the surface. and so far, so good. this is so remarkable just watching all of them, no matter what ailment they might be dealing with, come out of that capsule shouting, singing, hugging. in tears. it's just been incredible to watch. this is 34-year-old edison pena. and here's the little nugget we found out about edison. he's a big elvis presley fan and sent a request for music to be sent down into the mine and then he led the group of miners in sing-alongs to elvis presley. we thought, hey, what a perfect way to go to break. right? edison pena, this is for you. ♪ ♪ you should have heard them knock that jailbird sing ♪ ♪ let's rock
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moment that the very first miner stepped out of the rescue capsule. [ applause ] [ chanting ] that was miner number one, florencio avalos. got a big bear hug from chile's president before being carted off for the medical test. he was the cameraman in the isolation. remember the video, the pictures, that was because of him. he shot the vi owes of the miners sent up to the surface. his brother is still down there but i can promise you as soon as he comes up, that dark tunnel to
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freedom, you will see it live, as well. all right. taking a look at the ongoing mine rescue in chile, 12 guys out now. 21 to go. let's get another perspective, the strategy and the challenges, joseph sabanio of pennsylvania's direct tofr of deep mine safety overseeing the quecreek mine rescue in 2002. so great to have you, joe. i'm cure i don't say. as you have been watching this unfold live, does it take you back to que creek? because, boy, we remember that and the live pictures and can you compare the two anyway? are you feeling the same exhilaration? >> there's no question it brings back memories of quecreek. very similar process. the chilean rescue is much deeper and more dynamic as far as the engineering but the memories do come back. the process is very similar.
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the capsule's very similar. so, yes, definitely brings back memories. >> joe, anything from quecreek incorporated into this rescue effort? because we've seen help come from all over the world, from the u.s. to other countries. were you in any way involved in the consulting here? any of the guys from quecreek and able to learn or gain anything from the rescue you directed? >> i think that probably the quecreek rescue was a basis for this process down in chile. early on we had some cons consultation with people through the state department. also, provided some contact information for special medical response team here in pennsylvania, provide some medical assistance and advice but no question that quecreek,
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the quecreek process and rescue definitely had an impact on how they were going to go about this process. i think they used it as a basis and developed it from there. >> joe, have we learned anything so far from this rescue that will be able to take it to the next level, the next time something like this happens? >> well, i think that it's demonstrated that we can go much deeper to es cute a rescue. quecreek was 220 feet. this is well over 2,000 feet and takes longer to drill the rescue hole. if time is not of the essence, in this case, here, the miners were not identified or located for 17 days. but once they were located, then it was the time of drilling the hole. they were able to be provided for food, water, medical assistance so, you know, it demonstrated that we can go down over 2,000 and rescue miners so
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it's a far cry from 241 feet. >> yeah. no kidding. the pennsylvania director of the deep mine safety, oversaw the rescue in 2000 of quecreek we remember so far. we won't forget this one either. now the overnight celebrations in copiapo's town square and you would think that chile had won the world cup. we'll take a look at that right after the break. when i use expedia, my friends at work think there's more than one "me." ...because on our trips, i always get there faster. see, expedia lets me mix and match airlines. so i can take one airline out... and another home. so with more flight options, i can find the combination that gets me there and back quickest. with a little help from expedia, my friends will think i can be everywhere at once.
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we have been hearing a lot of that. cheers, whistles. embraces. this is mario sepulveda. nicknamed super mario. you can probably see why. brought a bag of rocks with him. handed them out to the rescuers. ran into the crowd, started hugging everyone. he had the most energy. leading the guys in the chilean song and also while underground, the spokesman for the miners. even narrated the videos that
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were shot underground. those videos we saw throughout the past weeks. he also appeared in many of those videos. he was very colorful and boisterous and cracked jokes with the crowd and even led them as we mentioned in a patriotic cheer. not only underground with the miners but up top. there he is joking with everybody. he was led away on a stretcher after all that because he had to have the routine medical check and he asked his wife, you ready for this? as he's being wheeled away, how's the dog? we'll keep following the rescues there of the miners. there are 12 up now and we're also looking at other top stories and bring you up on right now. we have a development in the disappearance of an american man on falcon lake along the texas-mexico border. you remember it led the mexican investigators into this case, apparently we are being told he's been beheaded. and his severed head was
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delivered to the military in a suitcase. we're talking about american david hartley. his wife says that he was fatally shot september 30th during a sightseeing trip. also right now, hurricane paula threatening mexico. the category 2 storm packing 100-mile-a-hour winds and heading for cuba. also don't forget tonight, wolf blitzer and the best political team on television in delaware for the senate debate. special coverage starting at 7:30 p.m. tonight. of course, we are continuing to watch this heartwarming story half a world away. but definitely universally inspiring. blaring sirens. greeting the miners from the shaft that entombed them for 69 days. during this time, experts from around the world helped care for the 33 men as they face long odds and an agonizing wait and one of those experts joining us
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once again from johnson space center in houston, dr. j.d. polk, nasa's chief of medicine. dr. polk, you know, it is interesting thinking of our astronauts. they're always prepared for the worst, for the most part. you never know what can happen but they're prepared and these guys in no way, shape or form were prepared so are you impressed with the fact that they're coming up with such energy, such enthusiasm even if they're suffering from some type of ailment, still so far nothing life threatening? >> absolutely, kyra. and you're absolutely right. we have months to prepare. years to prepare for a space mission. they have not had that luxury. and fortunately the miners are looking very good. the chilean health authorities have done an outstanding job in paying attention to the smallest details and have anticipated multiple contingencies and
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fortunately not had to use that expertise that the miners are looking very good. >> so let me ask you, dr. polk. as you have advised these gentlemen and i remember when it was announced that you and other nasa chiefs were headed down that way to help, did you actually see from last night to today or maybe even in the past couple of weeks have you watched your advice in action? if so, what have you observed that they did so well that you brought to the table for them? >> actually, that's one of the great benefits that the chilean government and health authorities have done for the miners is searched the globe literally four corners of the earth and even above it consulting nasa to take every lesson they could from previous mine accidents or space flight and apply it to the situation and it's been very grateful for the recommendations we gave to
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the chilean health authorities to see them enacted and especially last night seeing the first gentleman to come up and having his son give him such a warm hug. there's no better payoff for the hard work and the recommendations. >> if you were to pick out a couple things, dr. polk, that you emphasized, could be from a medical perspective, could be from as you say the perspective of overseeing this satellitewise, what would you say they really -- they nailed it in they did it right. >> well, one of the biggest things that they have nailed was that they broke this up into separate segments. it was such a long operation with multiple different phases and aspects, each of them with their own hazard and their own difficulties that they had to overcome. and fortunately they broke those up into each segment. they tackled them, they paid attention to even the smalle ee
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nuance and implemented the advice and sought out the experts and did a fantastic job. we have a long way to go yet, things are looking very good. >> now, and i don't -- by no way, shape or form to jinx the good karma going on but no doubt you prepared them also for the worse. what do they still need to be concerned about adds we get ready, it looks like seeing the 13th miner carlos barrios come up through that tunnel? >> well, yeah. not to be too americanized but it is not unlike a football game. we have at halftime right now. you don't want to let your guard down. you have a couple more parts of this game to play. and, you know, folks could still have some medical ailments. they still could have some complications and could be some engineering complications so just being diligent and making sure that they don't let their guard down at all and to make sure that they anticipate all of
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those things that could go wrong still in this operation. >> dr. j.d. polk, chief of space medicine there at nasa, great to talk to you and thanks so much. we sure appreciate it. >> thank you. >> you bet. we'll take a quick break and doesn't mean we stop our coverage. the 13th miner, you are seeing him right here. that's carlos barrios. he is about to come up, the fenix capsule there. the dark tunnel. finally get a chance to hug and kiss his family and we'll take it live as soon as it happens. don't go away. [ female announcer ] imagine the possibilities
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live pictures right now as our 13th miner carlos barrios getting ready to come up the fenix capsule. this is amazing. i mean, not only is this entire story, everything about this story so historic, but it's incredible that we are able to get cameras from every single angle. this is down in the mine so we can watch the preparation as these miners get ready. they get changed, they get prepared with their headsets and vests and moisture suits. make sure the communications are working well. a lot of them bringing souvenirs with them. chunks of the mine, so hard warming coming the top and pass these things out and see the other miners giving them the thumb's up. encouraging words coming up the tunnel.
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then we have cameras inside the capsule, as well. see there on the left side it's on the bottom of the capsule. as it comes down and the capsule comes out, you are able to see the journey live. and then, of course, once they reach the top, and we have got cameras everywhere. you are seeing it from every single perspective which is just remarkable. you know, the world is watching. and more than 20 families are still waiting right now, hoping that they're going to get their chance to hug and kiss their miner as he reaches the top. trues are working nonstop as you know to pull the remaining miners to freedom. cnn's karl penhaul is there at camp hope and where one by one they're being reunited with the loved ones and you have done a great job covering this for months. we want to keep the energy and
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enthusiasm. this is the moment that everyone is waiting for. karl, i'm sure you can hear it, too. everybody is clapping in the mine as the guys, there we go. number 13 in the capsule, carlos barrios is ready to head up to the top. hopefully we'll see him in 15 minutes. >> reporter: hopefully see him in 15 minutes. certainly here at camp hope there is no superstition about being miner number 13. talking to families where folklore and superstition blends for them, today is wednesday the 13th, the 13th of the 10th month of 2010. add that up and get 33. that's why the miner's families saying today is a good day adding the numbers up, 33 to bring 33 miners back to the surface so carlos barrios on the way back to the surface.
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a father of one child, his son certainly glad to see him heading back to the surface after almost 70 days understood ground. but i want to tell you, as well. each has a story. number one miner, edison pena that reached the surface, he was vital to the team effort in keeping these 33 men alive because that's what it was. if the 33 stayed alive, it was because they worked as a team. and edison pena was an electrician and what he did underground we understood is help use the vehicle batteries from trucks and from backhoes and hook hem up to the miners' lamps to move around and weren't forced to live in darkness all the time and he is an example of team work. also, an interesting fact about edison pena is he can't speak that much english but apparently according to his father, he can sing perfectly, perfect english
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every single song of elvis presley. up here at camp hope, they have shrines to loved ones and on that shrine for edison pena, his father put up the slogan, son, if you make it out of there alive, you will be bigger than elvis. well, today, edison pena, miner in number 12, did make it out of the that mine. i can't tell you whether he's bigger than elvis right now but must be feeling way bigger than elvis. must be a great feeling to be back on the surface. i thought for a moment they weren't going to play the chilean national anthem but burst into an elvis song. >> karl, we did that. we did that for him. >> reporter: exactly. one of the colleagues here saying, what elvis song he won't be singing is "caught in a trap." he was caught in a trap but now he is out. maybe it's jailhouse rock or viva las vegas.
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i'm sure the viewers take a pick as to what song goes with the rescue. >> there's plenty of them, for sure. as you can imagine, all the signals that are coming out of this amazing and historic moment right now but karl was just talking about edison pena, 34 years old. a huge elvis fan. and he was the miner that asked for elvis music to be brought down into the mine and he led all the guys in song-alongs and had the chilean anthem and lot of guys singing elvis songs and coming the surface, we did exactly what karl had suggested we played some elvis music to break. we'll continue to have some fun with that. great little piece of -- i guess you could say it's one of those pieces of flavor that we love to tell you about each one of these individuals, they all have a story and they all have something that was special to them that they brought to all of the other guys down there in the mine. okay. we are getting ready -- hopefully in minutes to see carlos barrios.
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he is going to be the 13th miner that's brought up. 27 years old. a foreman at the mine. he has a 5-year-old son and a fanatic soccer fan and also a regular player. he began mining ten months ago. he left playing sock tore do this. we'll carry that live as soon as it happens. meanwhile, here's our third miner that reached the top. [ applause ] that's juan illanes. he is a mechanic al engineer. he wore the sunglasses. he's retired from the chilean military. his family says that the letters that he sent to him displayed the trademark of humor and optimism. he showed it, too, taking off
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the hard hat and hugged the president there of chile and his family and all the guys that helped bring him to freedom. more of the breaking news coverage from chile right after a quick break. [ male announcer ] in the past, landing an airplane was complicated, with a series of stepped altitude changes. [ air traffic controller ] okay, 245, proceed to your next cleared altitude. [ sighs ] [ male announcer ] today, truecourse flight management systems from ge allow for fuel savings, lower emissions and less noise... ♪ ...making the old way of doing things... [ air traffic controller ] 245, you are cleared to land.
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>> translator: i think we have the possibility of being able to face things in life like we have just faced. i have faced many situations, but i think this was the hardest. but i am so happy that it it happened to me because i think that it was a time to make changes. i was with god and i was with the devil. but god won. i held onto god's hand, the best hand, and at no point in time -- how do i explain? at no point in time did i doubt that god wouldn't get me out of there. >> all right. it was also the cameraman that shot these videos. remember? he shot them and narrated them. you got to see the miners for the first time and how they remained so strong and you got
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to see them singing the chilean national anthem. mario was the guy that brought us all those pictures. other top stories. the death toll from a toxic sludge spill has no risen to nine. last week a waste reservoir at an aluminum plant burst, flooding nearby villages with an estimated 184 million gallons of poisonous sludge. a federal judge ordered the u.s. military to immediately cease all enforcement of the don't ask don't tell policy. last month, california judge virginia phillips ruled that the policy was unconstitutional. the justice department has 60 days to appeal. on wall street, stocks set to advance this morning with speculation the fed will take additional measures to jump start the economy.
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back live, straight to chile. we're getting ready to see the 13th miner pulled from the mine there in chile. we're talking about carlos barrios, 27 years old. here's a foreman there at the mine. 5-year-old son is what he has. also, he's a very fanatic soccer fan and a regular player. he's only been working in the mine for ten months. that's when he left soccer and started mining. not sure who's there to greet him. possibly his father as he starts to come up. let's go ahead and listen in. let's listen in. [ applause ] what they're doing now -- if you
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are just tuning in and watching these rescues, basically members of the rescue team at top -- here comes the chilean chant. let's go ahead and listen. what the rescue workers are doing is they're checking everything, and they're also unhooking various connections because they've had a headset on where they have been communicating with the miners up top. they've got a special vest on that's monitoring all of their vital signs. it's got to be sort of a slow and calculated process. they have to unstrap him and slowly bring him out. they're communicating with him. make sure he's okay, that his heart rate is all right. that he's speaking with rescue workers. what we're assuming and i hate to assume. we're assuming that's his father waiting for carlos barrios, 27
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years old, who just stepped out of the fenix capsule. boy, their energy hasn't stopped, either. every miner that comes up, you hear the chilean chant. something you hear at the soccer games, which is perfect for carlos barrios because he's a huge fan and a regular player. he's stepping out of the harness, and there we go. [ applause ] [ applause ]
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i'll tell you what, it sends chills up your spine and gets you a little teary-eyed as well. carlos barrios, 27 years old, turned to the crowd and in spanish said, thanks to all of you. if you have been watching it unfold, you have seen the routine of what happens. they come up, get checked out. get out of the capsule, get to greet their loved ones. we think that carlos embraced with his father there, both very teary ash eyed, exchanged words,
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spoke with the government officials. now he is brought in to be checked out by the medical team, taken to the hospital. here we go. 13 miners brought up to this point. we're almost there, almost to 33 miners. so far, no life-threatening issues. the guys look good. their energy is incredible. nothing better than to see that love shared with their family members. we're going to keep following this story. we're not taking our eyes off this. we will follow the live pictures and let you know as each miner gets ready to come out. the 15th miner is next. that's victor zamora. i'll tell you more about him in a second. we can't forget an extremely important story. we're talking about 20 days from today, americans will cast their votes in the midterm elections. can't lose sight of that, and the very control of congress, as we've been saying every day now, may be at stake. one of the most watched contests in the state race is delaware.
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and tonight cnn is actually going to carry a debate between the leading candidates. brianna keilar is at the university of delaware where that showdown will take place. it's all politics. it's all about the debate, but is there not just one television on there in delaware, watching these miners coming up? this is an amazing story. someone's got to be watching it while going over their debate notes. >> reporter: i think this is the story everyone is watching, but we're watching the debate here. beautiful, credit. fall day here on the university of delaware campus. we are waiting for christine o'donnell and chris coons, co-moderated by wolf blitzer. this race has gotten so much attention not so much for the issues at play here in delaware but for the personalities of the candidates, especially christine o'donnell. she has been dogged by comments
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she made nearly a decade ago but has enthusiasm and raised a whole lot of money since she was able to beat the republican establishment pick in the republican primary just last month, and then you have chris coons, a county executive here in delaware. he has actually been enjoying a sizable lead in the polls here, and that's given him a somewhat comfortable position of staying above the fray. democrats confident they will be able to hopefully hang onto this seated that vice president joe biden held onto for 36 years but they are not taking anything for granted and that's why this debate tonight at 7:30 p.m. co-moderated by cnn's wolf blitzer is one worth watching. >> we will be watching. that's the next biggest story to what we're following there in chile, the rescue of the miners. it's the top of the hour. it's historic. it's emotional. it's a moment of national pride
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finished. we are watching every single moment. live pictures down in the mine. it's incredible, the access we have here. we can take you down into the mine. we can take you even along the journey. we have cameras on the fenix capsule as it's moving its way up the tunnel, and, also, of course, we have cameras for every angle up top once the capsule gets up there. so far, only one rescued miner, we are being told -- okay. one rescued miner has spoken publicly. he was the second man that emerged from that tunnel. we're going to hear from him in just a second. cnn's karl penhaul has been at camp hope, camp esperanza. one we can't forget is mario
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gomez, the spiritual leader down there among all of these guys. he's the one when he came up and hugged and wrapped his arms around his wife. the next thing he did was he dropped to his knees in prayer. it goes to show not only how energetic these guys are, but how incredibly faithful so many of them have been and they have expressed that from the moment they reached the top there, coming out of the fik csewell. you can see that. our karl penhaul has been there from the very beginning watching this. karl, i know you have lila right next to you. i'm dying to know what she thought when she was able to wrap her arms around mario. >> reporter: we are going to ask her. she's still in the phase of hugs all around to everyone. [ speaksing in spanish ]
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[ speaking. spanish ] >> reporter: lila said she was very nervous and pained when she saw mario coming up in the rescue capsule because she didn't know how he would arrive, and then as that rescue cage opened, she was joyful and more so when she saw him drop to a knee and offer a prayer to god and the virgin mary. she said at that point she realized that mario gomez was a great man. i want to ask her if she ever lost hope.
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[ speaking spanish ] [ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: lila says that at no time did she lose hope. she held her faith and she said it doesn't matter that she's a catholic, that others may be evangelicals. she says religion does not matter. race does not matter, but just to have that faith and she and 33 other family had that faith that mario and the 33 miners would all come out alive. i asked her how did mario survive -- >> may i ask you a question?
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>> reporter: sure. >> if you don't mind, so many of us were so moved by that moment when he dropped to his knees in prayer, and as we know, this was the man down below appointed to be the spiritual leader. could you ask lila, if you don't mind, is this how he has been for the family and for her, and just to give us some background of where this comes from, and if this is something -- i mean, he was the one that was picked to be the one to keep the faith going. why him? [ speaking spanish ] [ speaking spanish ]
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[ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: lila said that really she was the religious fanatic in the household and would say to mario, come on, let's say our daily prayers, and he would say, hey, don't bug me, i'm praying but in my own way. yes, he was a catholic but not given to daily prayer. this is something that emerged when he was down in the mine and lila says if they hadn't had their faith if he hadn't prayed, they really would not have come out of this alive, and the other day, talking to lila, she said
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to me, there weren't 33 miners down there, there were 34. 33 miners and god. that's what lila said to me. we have to say good-bye to her now because she has to go and be with her family and share those hugs. great to share one of the most emotional moments we have seen so far, and we know that mario, a dyed in the wool, tough miner, even though he has silicosis, because we know he is tough as boots, something his wife would say as well. >> my guess is he will be right there next to her leading in prayer. karl penhaul, fantastic interview. what a wonderful thing to inspire all of us this morning. thank you so much. so far, only one rescued miner -- we heard from lila, but one rescued miner has spoken publicly. he was the second man to emerge from the hole, 40-year-old mario
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sepulveda. this interview has been translated into english, and what he says is just remarkable. >> translator: god doesn't carry out tests with anyone, no. i think we have the possibility of being able to face things in life like we have just faced. i have faced many situations, but i think this was the hardest, but i am so happy that it happened to me because i think that it was a time to make changes. i was with god, and i was with the devil. but god won. i held onto god's hand, the best hand, and at no point in time -- how do i explain this? at no point in time did i doubt that god wouldn't get me out of there. >> right now, we're monitoring a
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live news conference in spanish. we'll get it translated and give you the latest. you are seeing the president of chile and the president of boliv bolivia, addressing reporters and family members that are still there, about the 14 miners that now have been lifted from that mine. we are following every angle of this story. we'll bring you what they have to say. we'll have more from the miners, and you will continue to see these rescues, all 14 of them as we get ready for number 15. victor segovia is next. one word turns innovative design
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the miners being brought to the service. this is osman araya. he was a carrier pigeon handler. he is a singer and a guitar rift at his church. 13 miners out. our josh levs with a closer look at the guys who have been rescued so far. they all have incredible stories. >> beautiful day, kyra. i know you love this. i want to get to a piece of video you and i have been talking about, one of the first glimpses we got with the guys under ground when they were singing the chilean national anthem. go to that, and i want to tell you how this fits into that. this was in late august, right? august 26th, and this was video that we saw, everyone saw that they were okay and joking around and singing the national anthem.
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lift ton what it is. it's about the beautiful sky, the beautiful blue sky, the snow-capped mountain, the flower embroidered field. they were singing about the beauty of their land of their country, and now all of these weeks later, they're being reunited with that land that they were singing about. it's a belief in god, belief in religion, and the beauty of that country that helped to sustain them all of this time and now, here they are back up. here is your run june of everyone so far. let's start off here with florencio silva. we will talk you through each of the 13 out. he became a cameraman during the size lags. mario sepulveda was a video operator for the miners.
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juan palma, and carlos solis, from bolivia. jimmy sanchez, the youngest miner in the group, an environmental assistant. osman araya, a carrier pigeon handler, and a singer. this is jose vidal, a drilling, serving as a secretary for the miners, and carlos lagos, a drill operator. mario heredia, the oldest of the group, mining since he was 12 years old, for more than 50 years. alex salazar, a heavy machinery mechanic. jorge orellana, and this is
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edison pena, and so far these are the 13 that we have seen and i believe we have the picture here of victor zamora, the one we are waiting for right now, also a carrier pigeon handler down there. cnn.com, lots of interactivities. we'll talk you through this, including the device they are using to get the guys back up. take a look at that. these guys are being reunited with the land they were singing about a couple months back. >> we're getting ready to see victor zamora coming up in the fenix capsule. stay with us. more breaking news coverage right after this. see, expedia lets me mix and match airlines. so i can take one airline out... and another home. so with more flight options, i can find the combination
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>> so we are following the rescues in chile. 13 miners now safe. the last one, carlos barrios pulled from deep inside the earth after 69 days. among those hoisted, the youngest miner, 19 years old and the oldest, 63. the rescue continues for 20 men still trapped. a gruesome development in the disappearance of an american man on falcon lake along the texas/mexican border. the lead mexican investigator in the case has been beheaded and his head was delivered to the authorities in a suitcase. the american is david hartley.
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a military hearing continues to today for the u.s. army psychiatrist accused of last week's ft. hood massacre. major nidal hasan killed 32 people. the hearing determine whether he will be court-martialed. we want to take a break in the rescue operation in chile. we have the midterm elections less than three weeks away now. the balance of power, as we said day in and day out may be at stake, and one bellwether test may be the senate rate in delaware. a tea party darling has seized on the anger, and tonight she faces her democratic opponent in a debate. brianna keilar has a preview. >> reporter: this will be one of the most watched debates ahead of election day, the first time we will see a face-off between the democrat chris coons and the
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republican christine o'donnell. of course, if you've been paying any attention to politics atz we move toward november, this is probably a race you have been watching. it's been getting a lot of attention not because of the issues here in delaware but the big personalities of the candidates, especially christine o'donnell, a tea party candidate who was able to beat the republican establishment pick, mike castle, in the primary last month. she's been dogged by controversial comments he smad nearly ten years ago, and also, she's at the same time, getting a whole lot of enthusiasm and that's translated to money. she's gotten a lot of donations following her primary win last month. you have chris coons, county executive serving here in delaware for sometime. he has been able to take a somewhat comfortable position of trying to stay above the fray. democrats feeling pretty confident that he can hold onto this senate seat that vice
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president joe biden held for 36 years, but at the same time, they know in this political climate with some of the surprises that we've seen, they can't take anything for granted. we will watch this debate so carefully at 7:30 p.m. c co-moderated bide our own wolf blitzer. >> thank you so much, brianna. let's rewind and take a look at the highlights of the rescue operation in chile. jose ojeda was the secretary for the group. he's been a miner for 27 years and is a diabetic and had medication september down to him. he's also the guardian of his niece, and when he came to the top, it was nothing but enthusiastic.
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>>. ♪ chile got to love it. big party, singing the national anthem, dancing at the chilean embassy in washington. the ambassador, his wife and children, their guests celebrating the first miner's rescue, celebrating with all of the rest of us. it's amazing how the 33 miners have held it together for more than two months in darked, cramped isolation, not just their bodies but their minds. they managed to maintain their cool. we have a doctor from my alma
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mater, usc. there was no lord of the flies scenario down there, right? >> that's certainly true. >> but, there is something to say about this, i guess, which is a social hierarchy, right? i took notes. we had a spiritual leader, a shift leader, a secretary, a spokesperson, a cameraman. how important is to development something like that when you're in a situation like these miners were in? >> well, it's absolutely important. in fact, research that we've done at places like the south pole has shown that the more cohesive a social group is, and the more that a group is able to identify and follow leaders as they have done with the miners, the better off individual miners are with respect to their mental health. so it's not only important with respect to the cohesion of the group, but it's also important for the well being of the
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individual miners. >> here's what's interesting. you talk about ant art cal. i spent time there and worked on a documentary. they have outlets there. they have a coffee shop and a bowling alley. you can do things to beat the psychological effects from the cold and not being able to escape the environment, but these guys were in a dark mine, very warm, obviously, the air down there completely different. i understand a number of them tried to run and stay in shape and keep exercise going. so what -- as we see them come up, they're very excite and the have lots of adrenaline and so much enthusiasm, but a lot of this stuff can settle in later, right? what would you be looking for? what do they have to pay attention to as the days unfold? >> well, initially, as you can certainly see from the
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television reports coming from chile, the characteristic mood right now is one of elation and joy. and that will sustain them, certainly, for the initial period of rescue and recovery. over time, however, as they begin to struggle to adjust both with the media attention and, perhaps even more importantly, once the media attention and the public focus begins to fade away, many of the feelings and experiences that they encountered during the time that they were under the ground, particularly the first 18 days when no one knew whether they were alive or not, and the miners themselves didn't even know what the prospects were for rescue, that they will attempt to try to understand the significance of those events in their lives not only in terms of why them and why they were able to survive, but where do they go from here? what happens next?
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that will be one of the primary things. and then for those who have experienced posttraumatic stress as a result of having been in a life-threatening event, the signs and symptoms of ptsd like increased arousal and avoidance of situations that remind them of their experience, will begin to manifest themselves, and that will require ongoing monitoring by the team of psychologists assigned to help them. >> there are 33 of these guys, and no doubt they have established quite a connection, a bond, beyond anything they could probably imagine. and the fact that so far -- and, you know, we continue to keep our fingers crossed -- they have all come up alive with no life-threatening problems. will that play a positive role as they move forward?
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the fact that nobody died down there. the fact that nothing catastrophic happened. because there were some close calls before they got trapped. >> oh, absolutely, kyra. in fact, even in situations that aren't life threatening, when individuals go through a period of prolonged isolation and confinement and are able to do so successfully, often times they experience a very positive sense of increased confident confidence in their ability to handle any situation. many of them feeling, if i can do this, ci can do anything. that increased self-confidence will carry many of these miners as they proceed forward. >> larry, as we're talking, i'm watching a live picture right now here on our big screen, actually the camera attached right there on the fenix capsule. it's almost reaching the top,
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and we're talking about the 14th miner to reach the surface here. you can see his wife is nervous. you can see it in her eyes. she's excited, no doubt, and, larry, here he comes. he's coming to the top. this is the 14th miner to be rescued. victor zamora, 33 years old. his wife in tears. totally relieved. i'm assuming that's their son. i don't see notes that they have a son. i know they have a six-month baby on the way and according to his wife, they plan to name the baby paz victoria, and in spanish, that means peace victory. if it's a girl, that's what they decided. his wife getting ready to come over and greet her husband. victor zamora, 33 years old, a carrier pigeon handler and a poet. i would like to know if he wrote
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some poems when he was sending letters up. his wife in tears as chez waiting to greet victor zamora coming out of that capsule, making sure all vitals are good. looks like he got a kiss from his son. we will confirm if that's his son. he got to get up there as soon as that door opened and give him a big smooch. that was fantastic. let's go ahead and watch this moment unfold. chi chi chi le le le! [ applause ] [ applause ]
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>> not only is victor hugging his wife, but he's also hugging his six-month-old baby. he mentioned if it's a girl, his wife said they decided they will name her paz victoria, peace victory. if it's a boy, they will think of something just as warm and special. patrick oppmann is with us as well. patrick, i know you know a lot about these families. is that victor's son that ran up and gave him a kiss as they opened the door to the capsule? >> reporter: yes, he and his wife have two sons and another baby on the way. unlike the miner pecuna, he will be able to to be at his baby's birth.
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we have got ton know these families through their families and letters. a poet, a talent nobody knew he had, even he didn't know but in the depths of the mine, he wrote letters of poetry, and what a poetic moment now. he would write his wife and letter and said he would not be rescued, but he would be reborn. whether he emerged, he would be a better man, a better family man, a better husband and father. he wrote his mother who told karl penhaul about the detail and said there were 33 men down in the mine and there was a 34th presence, the presence of god and that would get him to the surface, and he wrote his wife that this inspired him to name his daughter paz victoria, and what a moment of victory for the family, and hopefully after this
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ordeal, he will also find peace. we're at the mercy of other cameras, so, patrick, there's a live picture of the chilean president. there we are, back to victor zamora, the 14th miner to be lifted from the mines. looks like he's in good shape. he got a chance to hug his wife, and right there in her belly, their 6-month-old baby that he will be able to be there for the birth now. he does have two sons. one of his sons wa there. as soon as they opened up the door of the fenix capsule, one of the rescue workers let him lean in and give his dad a kiss. victor talking to the president of chile right now. we haven't seen a lot of that. a lot of guys were put on the stretcher. let's see if we can listen for a second. >> translator: companionship and courage, and i hope that this new life that you have ahead of
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you will be happy. you really deserve it. now just rest, recover and you have your whole life before you. we will never -- we never left you alone. we were going to look for you until we found you. that was our commitment. >> translator: thank you, mr. president. ? all right, queue up the bob marlee music. we got to hear the president of chile addressing him. yes, in addition to what we found out about victor. he's a poet, a carrier pigeon handler, a father of two boys,
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this is the one we told you about that's been keeping a journal throughout the entire ordeal. his updates have kept the rescuesers on the surface informed about what the miners are feeling, from their physical well-being to their mental well-being, keeping everybody abreast up top about what the miners are going through. he's also married and has five children. he's been working as a miner since he was 17 years old and he's been here at the san jose mind for eight years. victor segovia 48 years old coming up right now in the fenix capsule. just to bring you up to date now, the rescue of the 33 trapped miners under way. 14 have safely reached the surface. 19 still a half a mile beneath the ground, but number 15 on his way up.
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we have complete around the clock coverage. a federal judge has ordered the u.s. military to immediately cease enforcement of the don't ask don't tell policy. there have been several protests over his issue. last month a california judge ruled. unconstitutional. the justice department has 60 days to appeal. looks like miami may be spared hurricane paula's wrath. the storm packing 100-mile-an-hour winds will head northeast and reach western cuba. mario gomez was the ninth miner rescued about 7:00 this morning. he was the oldest miner down there, 63 years old. he was actually prepared to retire on the day of the cave-in. his wife didn't want him to go to work that day. he lost three fingers on one hand in a previous mining accident. his sister watched the rescue unfold from her home in bolivia.
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he was also the spiritual leader down there, and when he came up to the surface, we will never forget the images of mario dropping to his knees in prayer. >> translator: i'm very happy, very happy. i don't know what i'm going to do to be close to my brother. we have been watching everything on tv. i wish i could be there in copiapo with my beloved brother. ] ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ daylight comes [ dogs barking ] ♪ i'm on my way ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ working my whole life away ♪ another day ♪ another dollar ♪ another day [ male announcer ] the everyday things we depend on in life are simple.
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these are the moments that have become a source of national pride for chile. this is alex vega, the tenth miner rescued. he's a heavy machinery expert. his father also a veteran miner. his family actually wrote a song for him while he was trapped. their message, without you, a better world doesn't exist. one of the many emotional stories right there at the site of san jose mine. the rescue operation is moving along. 14 guys out, 19 to go. getting closer to the halfway
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point. the next live reexcuse is victor segovia, miner 15, will be any minute now. other big story we're talking about, just 20 days from now, americans will cast their votes in the midterm elections. we're counting down and bringing you all of the stories that could face the voters' decisions. paul steinhauser in washington at the political desk. i'm sure you're watching the miners as well, paul. >> yeah, just really inspiring stuff. you're glued to it. i got up early to watch. let's talk about politics for a moment. 20 days, michelle obama hitting the campaign trail in wisconsin and illinois, helping democrats running for re-election and other democrat candidates. brand new from cnn, a national poll, nearly two-thirds of americans, 65% give a thumb's up, approve of the job michelle obama is doing as first lady,
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and break it down by party, this is fascinating, too, 9 out of 10 democrats giving her a thumbs up, and 61% of independents approve of the job she is doing. we have more on that story right here. our cameraman zooming in on the cnn political ticker. a big debate in california last night, gubernatorial contest between jerry brown and meg whitman, some fiery stuff last night. tonight, though, delaware. this will be huge, delaware senate debate. the first time that christine o'donnell and chris coons will be facing off. wolf blitzer will be co-moderating that tonight. that will be must-see tv. >> more political news next hour. a reminder, if you are away from the tv, go to cnnpolitics.com. another look and another highlight of the rescue operation in chile. this is alex vega, the 11th
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miner rescued. also a carrier pigeon handler, takes medication for hypertension. that was a concern to rescue workers. he had complained about not feeling well, but as you can see, this miner, who has been working in the miner for 30 years, did not hold back in any way, shape or form, from showing his happiness when he reached freedom. [ male announcer ] the next big thing from lexus is not a car. it's the idea that a car that will never have an accident may be possible. in pursuit of this goal, lexus developed
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♪ you ain't nothing but a hound dog crying all the time ♪ are you asking why we're playing elvis presley over the chile mining rescue? because edison pena, the 12th miner rescued about 9:20 this morning, is a huge elvis presley fan. he even asked for elvis music to be sent down to the mind and are you ready for this, he led all of the miners along in sing-alongs. the drama began 69 days ago when no one knew if they would be found or if they would make it. there was one of the highlights, josh, learning the nuggets and what they do to keep themselves in good mental health. >> it's incredible. the entire world will breathe a huge sigh of relief when everybody is up and safe. this has been going on for so
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long. so much tension be concern. it goes all of the way back to august 5th. this is one the 33 miners were trapped, collapse into the main ramp into the mine. 700 meters, 2,300 feet. they survived by rationing tuna fish and milk. it was august 22nd, two full months that they got the first confirmation that the miners were alive and they managed to get the note to the surface. it was that note that gave families and officials the word they were alive. a few days later, this video. they were joking around. >> translator: this guy doesn't want to get out of here because then he'll have to take a shower and this one hasn't taken a shower. >> you saw them joking around. you saw them in the next video singing the national anthem which talks about the beauty of the land and the snow-capped
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mountain. they are singing about the land that they are final he being reunited with. after the video, the drama continued and got worse because it was the next day, august 27th that officials said it could take months to rescue. that's when plan b was put in place. then there was a plan c that involved a third hole being drilled on september 10th. a week later, we found out that the plan b bore hole reached down to the miners. that was a hole, not a rescue shaft. we are jumping to october 9th, the escape hatch reached the miners, and over the last couple of days, that escape route was created and ready to go. you're looking at all of these weeks and all of the drama leading up to today, and leading to great news. we're following it every step of the way. as you said, we have video down there, up above, i-reports from
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all around the world. >> josh, thank you very much. as i said earlier, this is a huge moment of national pride for chile. the world is watching this success story that's happening out of the san jose mind. look at the pages from around the world. this is coming from argentina, and this is from a paper published in tel aviv, and in austria, the headline says "a bomb that saves live" referring to the rescue capsule. zain verjee is in london with more on the international reaction. i was watching you through the night. it's been broadcast around the world. this is one of the best stories to be able to tell. >> reporter: it really is, kyra. you just feel good telling it. it is a story that has totally gripped the entire world, a story about universal human struggle and triumph of the
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human spirit and perseverance. we had a bunch of i-reporters send in great pieces of video. this is from a man in los angeles. he compared the nail-biting emotion here and the nerves and the huge sense of relief to the 1969 landing on the moon. listen, kyra. >> this event here, you can't help but watch it and you just keep crying. we have been crying, my wife and i, since we started watching it. it's so emotional, and with the high-def cameras, and as the miners came out, each families allowed three relatives to come in as each miner is brought up, and to see this thing from the bottom, from the top. got to commend cnn, and commend all of the networks, got to commend all of the media down there. it's just unbelievable! >> reporter: kyra, i want to show you something dave hagen
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from norway sent in. he and his 77 school friends got the day off to watch the rescue. >> we want the whole world to know in norway we support this tragedy. it's a terrible thing that happened, and we're going to watch it as long as it takes. >> reporter: one more for you, kyra. check out this i-reporter from bro brazil. >> it's good to see a situation happen like this. >> reporter: one thing we found out in social media as we were looking around is that the chilean government has been totally clued into social media. they sent a photographer down on the ground to capture amazing moments like this of intense emotion a celebration and they are just streaming it is soon as they can onto flicker.
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the chilean president is on twitter and posted a picture of himself hugging one of the miners. he has 50,000 followers. >> why does that not surprise me. you were also saying, too, the super stigs that you found on social media? >> reporter: yeah, focusing on the number 33. 33 miners were found on the 33rd week of the year, and the plan b rescue shaft was completed after 33 days of drilling, and look at today's date. what is it? 10-13-10. what do you think that adds up to? >> you're freaking me out. >> reporter: i know, right? >> if you look at it in a positive like light, all of these numbers are creating good karma because so far so good because the guys are coming up enthusiastic, health
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