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i believe i offer you real ideas based on that experience. i'm the only candidate on the stage tonight with experience working in and with the private sector and i'd be grateful for your vote. >> my apologies for interrupting. thank you so much. time is up. wolf blitzer, it's been a real pleasure. >> for all of hue are watching, thank you for joining us. good night. thanks for watching. last night we witnessed history as the first of 33 miners was removed from the dark dungeon they'd been living in for 68 days. today the 69th day. operation underway right now, history continue. operation underway right now. five rescuers still underground waiting their turn to make their long journey to safety. that's what it looks like from the top of the rescue capsule moments ago, there you have one of the last people coming out of the mine. this is the first rescuer arriving on the surface just moments ago, we'll be covering
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this over the next two hours as we follow the action on the ground, plus some of the most dramatic moments from over the last 24 hours, and what a 24-hour period it has been. take a look, images from deep underground a few moments ago, six rescue workers, before one of them made his way to the surface, holding a sign reading mission accomplished. their work done. now we want to watch to make sure they get out alive. the mission is not over, until all the men are out on the surface. they got 33 miners out, and now they themselves are heading home. it is not over yet. and as you saw, one just came up. we're going to be bringing you their climb to the surface as it continues to happen throughout the night. we're live over the next two hours. a short time ago, those rescuers, the six men underground helped the last of the 33 miners into that pod. this is the moment we saw through down below. take a look. luis urzua, the foreman, leader of the group, leaving. let's listen.
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[ applause ] >> he chose to be the last of the miners to leave the underground dungeon they had been living in. he arrived to cheers on the surface, sirens and hugs, just a short time later. let's watch. [ cheers and applause ] [speaking in a foreign language] >> a report to the president that all of the 33 miners were out, the president hugging the mine officials, lifting going faster than at first. the entire operation proceeding quicker than expected, all angles of it beamed live around the world by the chilean government. live pictures above ground, below ground, even from inside the rescue pod itself.
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a remarkable show of confidence with 33 lives on the line. when it was over, luis urzua spoke with chile's president. take a look. >> translator: we have done what the entire world was waiting for. these 70 days that we fought so hard were not in vain. i think the first several days -- i can't even explain it. but we had strength. we had spirit. we wanted to fight. we wanted to fight for our families. that was the greatest thing. these workers, i didn't know them much, but i learned how to -- i began to know them.
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what was the most difficult moment, the most difficult moment was that we're -- there were very difficult moments. but -- but was when the air cleared and we saw the rock -- when i saw the rock, it just made me -- i just thought i was in a movie. and many thought it was going to be a day or two days, as always. but then when i saw the rock, i -- i just knew. and then we knew how to manage the situation, the first couple of days, then, you know, some things happened that weren't the best. but we learned how to keep our composure.
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i'm happy that there weren't any big problems. you have no idea how many -- all the chileans shared the anguish, the hope and the happiness. i think the first five days we were sure there was working done on the mine, but we thought it was just going to be difficult -- in my experience, i knew it was going to be difficult. the way things were. at the beginning, we didn't know where you were. we didn't know if you were dead or alive. until -- until this arrived. we cried.
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and all the homes in chile, we cried. with happiness. with emotion. we'll never forget this. the anguish and the anxiety and then the happiness, the happiness when the last one came out, the captain, the boss. >> that was luis urzua talking to the president, the president showing him the note that was pinned -- that was put on a drill when the first drill, after 17 days, when these men had been trapped for 17 days down below, a drill finally broke through. they put a note on that drill, and that drill went up. and that's how the people on the surface, that's how chile's president knew that the miners were alive. that was a remarkable moment for everyone, and, of course, that began the true rescue operation to actually once they'd located them, knew they were alive, that's when this drama all began. another miner, you see a live picture, right now another rescuer leaving the mine, heading toward freedom.
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just a few rescuers left underground. we're going to be bringing each of their ascents to you live. 33 people now breathing fresh air who weren't before. the rescue workers making their way back up, all ending this way, a tribute to a lot of hard work, daring and expertise from around the world. even from america. tonight we're going to tell you about all of it, minute by minute, miracle by miracle. we're going to talk to bear grylls from "man vs. wild" in particular we're going to focus with him on those first 17 days when the miners were trapped. very little light. they had a few lights on their helmets. they were rationing a little bit of tuna, a little bit of mackerel, rationing water, once every two days. they had no idea if people were looking for them, if people were going to be able to find them. we're going to talk to bear, a lot about how you get through a situation like that. let's go to gary tuchman who is at the mine. gary, it has been just a remarkable 24-hour period. we're still watching these
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rescuers now being brought to the surface. this thing is not over, and it's important not to kind of move on and there's still folks underground, very deep underground who are still at risk. >> reporter: there's still risk involved, and that's why we're keeping a careful eye on the spinning wheel which indicates the rescue workers are coming up. once all the rescue workers are up, they will then close that mine shaft over there for eternity. this has been a very inspirational evening. last night when this began, officials believed that this vehicle that they were using, this rocket-like vehicle, almost looked like a toy. that's what's so interesting, when you see it, the remarkable video on the bottom of the mine, the audio, and when you see this shoot up through the ceiling, it almost looks like an amusement park. it never carried a human being until the first human went down there yesterday, got to the bottom, we were all greatly relieved and the first miner went up. it was 15 minutes but it felt like an hour and 15 minutes.
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when we saw that rocket come through the hole, everyone started clapping. the family reunion happened here, and then we were watching and watching. we couldn't get enough of it. i'm not just saying that for the journalists here, but i'm saying that for viewers all over the world who watched this on television. we can't get enough of these reunions, it is absolutely wonderful. it wasn't nearly as tense when we got to the second, the third, the fourth, the tenth, the faent, the 20th. just the video the chilean government provided when people got together, kissed, hugged, told their stories, it's absolutely wonderful. and then tonight, 22 hours after it all began, the 33rd and final miner, he was the site supervisor, came up and that was the end. all the miners were safe. nobody has ever survived this long underground, but it would have been absolutely squat if they weren't able to rescue the 33 men, and indeed they were.
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a truly inspirational evening. >> where are the miners now? >> reporter: most of the miners are currently in the hospital about an hour and 15 minute drive from here, a 15-minute helicopter ride. >> so you say most of them are still in the hospital, and in terms of their medical conditions, what have you heard? we're going to have a report from the hospital a little bit later on, but what are you hearing? >> reporter: right. right. this is the absolutely good news. no major medical issues whatsoever. a few of the miners had some minor issues, miners with minor issues. miners with minor issues. but nothing major. it's been the absolute best possible result they could have imagined. these guys are in terrific shape. maybe a better shape because they were given a proper diet, making sure they were psychologically okay. this is just wonderful good news. >> so we're still waiting for the third rescue worker, you can see all his colleagues gathered
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around, around the shaft, waiting for him to emerge. three rescue workers still down below. we first learned the miners were alive august 22nd. they'd been down there for 17 days already. that was really the beginning of the story, at least in terms of the international attention. and, of course, the story is going to continue long after the reunions. tonight karl penhaul has been with the families throughout this drama. he joins us now. karl, what -- obviously for the families, this is the outcome that they've been dreaming of. how did they spend today? >> reporter: absolutely it was an outcome that many, many occasions didn't even dare dream of. because when that mine first collapsed on august 5th, just the logical conclusion was that all 33 miners had been buried alive. but throughout the day, we have seen the fenix rescue capsule rise up that rescue shaft and deliver each miner one by one,
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back into the arms of the people they most love. there was, for example, a minor, mario gomez, 63 years old, he stepped out of that capsule into the arms of his wife, lila, then he hugged her and then he took her knee and prayed to god and the virgin mary. rojas stepped out of the capsule into the warm embrace of the woman he has been with for many years, but while he was down, half a mile underground, he decided that when he got out it was time to marry jessica in a catholic church wedding, and that is now what they plan to do. there was edison bena, an electrician, part of the team that helped the 33 stay alive down there for so many days, a mad elvis presley fan. i wonder what elvis song was going through his head as he
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rose to the surface again. many stories like that. each of the 33 miners have a story to tell. >> it's getting difficult to hear you, karl, just because of the background noise near where you are. we'll come back to you later on because there are so many incredible stories, these families are just now getting the chance. as soon as each miner was brought up they were allowed to be with their loved ones, no more than than three family members, just a few seconds, a short period of time. then they were brought to a hospital tent, a triage sent that had been set up, then to a medical facility for more intense treatment. this has been a remarkable achievement for chile. from the beginning they've sought out expertise from all around the world, especially from the united states. we know they consulted with nasa. we talked last night to two nasa personnel who had been consulted. an american drilling team punched through to the miners in record time. two men brought in from afghanistan. a lot of people from a lot of places helped make this happen.
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let's talk to dennis o'dell from the united mine workers of america. you and i have been watching this throughout the day. we have never seen something like this before. never before have people been underground so long and survived. >> no. you know, and sadly, you know, when we've seen things like this happen in the past, anderson, you know as well as i do the outcome has not been a happy ending like we've witnessed and seen here at this event. so it's just a joyous occasion to see that the end result is like it is and it's been successful and all the miners are out and they're healthy and with their families again. and you know, it's finally good to see something like this occur where the outcome isn't what we've seen in the past, and that's a major disaster, where there's deaths involved. >> you know, as we rejoice in the survival of these 33 men, often as you said, we've seen too many cases where people don't survive.
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what do we need to learn from this incident? what can we take from this moving forward? >> well, you know, that's something we're going to have to talk about and talk about in a very near future. there should be an investigation that takes place to find out what occurred, what caused this to happen. you know, were there short cuts taken? did they really take all the safety precautions necessary as they mine? i saw where there were some poor safety record and some violations that occurred at this mine. i'm in the process right now in the middle of an investigation at upper big branch where 29 miners were killed here in west virginia, one of the worst mine disasters we've had in over 40 years. and so we need to learn, you know, from what occurred there, thank god that these guys are out and they're safe, and we've got them home, but we need to find out what caused that so we can prevent it from happening again in the future. you know, we need to look at the top conditions and find out what we could have done better, make better escape -- means of escape for miners. not just one escape but give them a couple means of escape so they don't have to barricade
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themselves and wait for somebody to drill from the top like they've had to here. so there's a lot of things we can learn. >> are you surprised -- and again, we're waiting for this third rescuer to come to the surface. are you surprised at how the condition of these miners after 69 days? a lot of them have been able to stand, able to talk, and, you know, kind of run around, even. >> well, you have to give credit to those that headed off this rescue and the resource that's they brought into this from throughout the world. what we've seen is they knew they were going to be down there for an extended period of time, so they brought in the resources that they knew they had to keep the miners occupied, they knew they had to give them games like dominos to keep them occupied, establish communications with their loved ones outside, make sure the nourishment they were receiving was the right kind of nourishment. so because of this, i'm not surprised because they planned this out properly so our hats
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have to go off to those people that planned this from the very beginning. i think they've done an excellent job in that respect. >> yeah. in terms of -- i mean, how difficult an operation has this been to drill through this material? i mean, they were giving worst case scenarios this may not happen until december, and we're watching, we see the pod very close there, the fenix capsule very close there, bringing up this third rescue worker. as we watch him come up, how tough has this been in terms of drilling down through that, that rock? >> i think from the beginning -- >> let's just watch this -- i'm sorry, dennis, let's just watch this moment unfold. let's just listen. >> okay. sure. [ applause ]
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>> dennis, let me ask you another question about these rescue workers. they really, you know, everyone thinks this thing is over, there's still three men down below. these guys risk their lives every time they go into the earth. >> yeah. you know, sometimes we don't tell these guys how much we do appreciate them. why don't you think about that for a minute? those guys who were trapped underground, they were there without choice. these guys made a choice to put their life on the line to go underground to help rescue these guys and bring them out. so i mean, you just -- you could imagine rescue workers throughout this world do that every time there's a mine disaster. they put their lives at risk. so they have to be, you know, well commended on what they do. >> no doubt about that. you see the capsule now going back down, they're trying to get through this as quickly as possible. still three men down below.
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our coverage is going to continue. dennis o'dell, thanks. we'll talk with you throughout these next hours. if you would like to weigh in, join the live chat now, talk to viewers in the united states and around the world now watching this live at ac360.com. we're live until the midnight hour until the last of the rescuers is safely on the surface. just ahead, in addition to everything else happening live as it happens, the closer look at what it takes mentally to survive. what if you were in a situation trapped somewhere or in a survival situation? what does it take to get through? we'll talk to bear grylls. >> i think one of the hardest emotions to deal with as a survivor is the not knowing. not knowing what rescuer will ever be able to reach you, not knowing if anyone is even looking for you, those are hard emotions to deal with. impressive resume. thank you.
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>> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile! >> that's miner jose ojeda waving the flag, we'll bring you the most incredible moments. no doubt you missed these as they were brought out, as you were at work, we'll bring you the moments witnessed by everyone around the world as we wait for the final rescuers. the miners are out, the rescuers are down below, three men still down below.
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that capsule has left. it is still descending now. they're going much faster. we anticipate these three rescue workers should be back up, certainly by the end of this next hour. we have a much better idea now of how the rescued miners are doing physically with the exception of one miner who is being treated for pneumonia. two need extensive dental surgery. the rescue men appear to be in pretty good shape. patrick oppmann is at the hospital where the miners are being treated. what is their condition? >> reporter: anderson, there's 17 miners in this hospital behind us, and we're told today by the chilean health minister they're in surprisingly good condition. none of the men will face any serious health problems as a result of their two-plus months in captivity, and you're talking a moment ago about remarkable moments, a remarkable moment a few hours ago, watching the final rescues, you hear shouting coming down from the windows, the men are on the second and
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fourth stories of this hospital, and they were watching the rescue of their colleagues, watching those rescues. the same rescue they'd experienced earlier in the day or late last night. and started chanting, chile, chile. the family members were down in the lobby, you could hear their chants. you talk to hospital workers and they said every single patient in this hospital was watching the coverage, including the 17 most important patients, the 17 miners. we're expecting to see more of those helicopters bringing the miners to this hospital. anderson? >> patrick oppmann, appreciate it. dr. kimberly manning joins me now, assistant professor at emory university medical school. she was with us last night. dr. manning, it sounds like the conditions of these miners is not very serious. there is acute pneumonia, obviously serious for that miner, and skin lesions on the eye. how would that have happened? >> they were in such a damp quarter. it was very dark in the area, and then you must remember, it
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was very, very hot down there. 85 to 90 degrees. and so some of those infections that have been reported are what we call fungal infections. any infection caused by a fungus really thrives in that type of environment. think of things like yeast or athlete's foot or even jock itch, those are things you'll see in the warm, moist, damp circumstances. >> were you surprised to see i mean, how well they all looked, walking around just fine, none visibly out of breath? they all looked like they were in pretty good condition. >> i'll tell you, anderson, many people were so surprised after 17 days these gentlemen were alive and in such high spirits. anything is possible with this group of gentlemen. so i have to say i can't say that i'm completely surprised they're doing better than what we anticipated. like we've said all evening long, we've never, ever seen
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anything like this. and for us health care professionals, we have nothing to go by. what we can do is speculate and make assumptions of what could have happened, but we're all learning so much as this unfolds. and it's exciting to see that folks are doing so well. but as we mentioned before, this has been so, so traumatic, that i just will be very surprised if the miners can escape some of those psychological effects. >> you know so much of the studies i've read on people in these kind of conditions basically are astronauts or people, you know, health workers in antarctica, researchers there, people that have been in isolation. but what makes this different is that darkness these men experienced for these past 69 days. talk a little bit about how that can affect somebody, not just in the short term, but also long-term, what it does to the body, and one's mental health, to be living in complete darkness and how they worked to have a light area and a dark area, a light area using lamps
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and some l.e.d. lights that might trick their body into being in some sort of a rhythm. >> right. so this is specifically what we refer to as the circadian rhythm, it's a 24-hour clock that regulates all the physiological processes of the body. so things like how you -- how active you are, how your muscles move, how alert you are. those things are tied to the rhythm and follow a light and dark cycle. so it was very, very tough, very likely for those gentlemen in the first 17 days, but once they established that light/dark area, that may have helped some at night. they did have a red light to sort of mimic moonlight, if you will. and i think what we've also learned is that things aren't exactly what we thought. some of the gentlemen were moving around a lot more. they had more free rein and roam of the mine than we once realized. so some of what we imagined isn't quite exactly what the miners are telling us once they
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came up. so i think they've just been a lot -- doing a lot better than we expected, and perhaps that light/dark cycle they were able to mimic did in fact keep them on some type of cycle. >> yeah. we knew the area, the room that they were in was about 600 square feet or so. but because there were tunnels in this mine, they did have access in areas they could walk in and go to and perhaps most importantly from a health standpoint, another small area, another area that they actually used as a toilet area, just for health reasons, sanitation reasons, and sort of reasons of personal dignity, that would make a big difference having a separate area where they could go relieve themselves. dr. kimberly manning, appreciate your expertise. what it takes to survive an ordeal as a grueling as a mine collapse. bear grylls joins me ahead. >> it's the spirit that i'm never, ever, no matter what happens, i'm never going to get up. that really is the heart of a survivor.
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[speaking in a foreign language] >> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile! [ applause ]
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>> unbelievable. that was mario sepulveda, the second miner pulled to safety. he's if guy who had been narrating a a lot of the videos we've watched, leading the cheer. he was pumped, i mean, just -- watching it sends chills through you. hard to believe he'd spent more than two months underground. we've seen over and over, the miners were pulled out, how resilient they seem after all they've been through. how strong they are. few of us will come close to experiencing what they've survived. not even bear grylls, host of "man versus wild." he's obviously made a career out of testing his own limits. we want to talk about how these men survived, how all of us could survive in any dangerous situation. i was interested in the first 17 days when the miner his no idea if people were looking for them. if people just assumed they were dead, had no idea if they were ever going to be rescued. i talked to bear grylls via skype.
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from a survival standpoint, what stands out to you about this story? >> it's such a long period of time, you know? it's hard to kind of get a grasp of just what it must be like to be underground for that amount of time. i've kind of endured storms on mountains, being stuck in snow holes for long periods of time, but we're always talking kind of days, rather than weeks and months. and, you know, i think just the reality of what these guys have gone through is going to take a long time to recover. and i think what would happen is that there would be a mass euphoria initially of those outpouring of emotion, but it's actually kind -- that's a honeymoon period. the hard time i think people find, for the survivors, would be a month or two down the line when you've processed the emotions you've kept a lid on all that time under the ground. >> the other thing that stands out to me, especially those first, 16 or 17 days after they've realized they were
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trapped, when they weren't sure if rescue was coming, they weren't sure if anyone was going to be able to find them. they're in pitch-black conditions, in a room about 600 or so square feet, there's 33 of them. that's got to be the toughest time, even for guys that are used to being underground, just not knowing if anyone is going to actually find them. >> really terrifying. and i think one of the hardest emotions to deal with for the survivor is the not knowing. not knowing what rescue will ever be able to reach you. not knowing if anyone is looking for you, you know, those are really hard emotions to deal with. once they realized there was a glimmer of hope, how ever small that glimmer was, then you can start to set into that routine. but that initial not knowing must be very frightening. i think also the fact that your senses become deprives of everything we take for granted, like light, warmth, sleep, rest, you know, even things like family, love, children. you know, you start taking all of that away from people, and, you know, stuff happens. and i think all emotions get very heightened. so the good emotions, the bad
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emotions, things get blown out of proportion, and i think for these guys, they pulled this off and they survived this, it's something they should be so, so proud of. and what an amazing experience for them to go through. >> and for those first 16 or 17 days before the drill got to them, they were basically surviving on little pieces of fish. i read mackerel and tuna that were already in the mine and obviously water. how long can someone go just on that kind of a diet? >> well, you're into survival food, then, you know, but your body can last, you know, up to like 40 days without food. they're on very limited rations, they can survive a while. but again, it's measured in weeks. the important thing for them was water, which they did have. but again, you know, you're really reduced to basic levels in life. and you've got to just admire that fortitude and that courage and the way they must have
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worked together. it just shows that human beings, when we're really put up against it, actually we're all survivors underneath it, regardless of how we see ourselves and we struggle with this or struggle with that. but actually when we're squeezed, we're like grapes, you see what we're made of, and these guys should be really, really proud. wow, what an amazing journey. >> what is your advice for people who find themselves in a survival situation where they don't know if rescue is coming? i mean, what's the key? >> i think three things. one is keeping positive. you know? it's kind of easy to roll off the tongue, but out of everything, just seeing things always as half full, and everything has hope is so important. the other thing i think is being inventive, keep thinking of clever little ways that, you know, inventing and improvising things. and the final one, really, the most important one, is just the spirit of saying i'm never, ever, whatever happens, i'm never going to give up. and actually that really is the heart of the survivor. and that's what these guys have
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shown in such spades. >> is this an experiment you would want to try on your show, being underground for this long? >> no. three months, that's -- no. that's full on. i'm -- you know, we tend to take five or six days to film "man vs. wild" and at the end of that, i'm well, well ready to get out of there and get home. i admire these guys so much, i've been praying for them, and i'm so glad to see them on the way to safety. i once went 3 1/2 months without a shower, and it took me about a month to smell normal again. i don't know what these guys are going to smell like at the end, but what a journey and i'm so glad they're on the way out. >> bear grylls, appreciate your time. >> take care. >> amazing. just ahead, more coverage from chile. an incredible and historic night continues. not over. all the miners may be safely above ground, but the rescuers who descended into the chamber to get them have not yet surfaced. we're following them every step of the way.
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welcome back to our continuing coverage of the rescue operation still underway. you see there the large picture on your screen, mine officials waiting for the rescuer, the fourth rescuer to emerge from the shaft. two rescuers still down below. there are other stories we are following tonight, though, let's get a quick update on some of them. isha sesay has the bulletin for us. anderson, both the u.s. and mexico are continuing to search for an american reported missing
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despite the murder of the lead mexican investigator in the case. david hartley's wife, tiffany, says he was shot to death while they were jet skiing on the mexican side of falcon lake. she says david was murdered, but his body has not been found. the obama administration plans to file an imminent appeal of a judge's order banning the enforcement of don't ask, don't tell. the pentagon's policy that bars openly-gay service members. the white house says that while the president opposes the policy, the law should be changed by congress, not the courts. the senate candidates in delaware faced off tonight in a debate as a new poll today shows chris coons with a 19-point lead over republican christine o'donnell. and now that all those miners in chile have been rescued successfully, anderson, it looks like their lives are about to change financially. there's a report that each of them will receive $10,000 from a chilean business tycoon.
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each will receive $400,000 to exclusive television interviews. they've been invited to travel to europe, company as parentally are lining up to offer endorsement deals. those other free gifts such as ipods and apparently plenty of job offers, anderson. that's a lot of moolah they're looking at. >> let's hope they handle it pretty well. we'll check in with you as our coverage continues. we're going all the way to the midnight hour. live pictures now, the fourth rescuer has emerged from the capsule, just seconds ago. here you see his colleagues hugging him, welcoming him home. and you'll see how quickly they try to get that capsule, the fenix capsule, back in the ground, going down to pick the two men still below. let's listen in just here. [speaking in a foreign language]
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>> translator: how was the trip? it was good. did the cage behave? yes. >> the rescuer being asked about -- >> translator: it's really hot and really humid but everything was fine. >> the voice of the translator describing what they're saying, that it's hot and humid, obviously we've known that, 85 to 90 degrees. that's what they've been living in. they've been having problems with that gate from the beginning. the operation was delayed a little bit last night if you recall in the early hours
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because of the gate on the fenix capsule. but one of the rescuers being asked whether or not there were any problems with it, he said there weren't. i want to show you some pictures from last night, that frankly i think took everyone's breath away. this is the first time we saw live 2300 feet under the ground, when the fenix capsule made contact, the first time these miners had had human contact from someone above, the first rescue tore go down there. we did not expect or prepare to be watching a shot from down below as it happened. we heard rumors it might happen. at first we didn't know what it was. we shouldn't have been surprised, perhaps. what has made this so gripping is the extent to which we've been utterly connected to it. we've watched nearly every second of it from almost every angle thanks to the chilean government, which didn't forget that we live in a digital world. we also heard, as you're hearing now, the radio communication
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between miners underground and the officials above, who are watching this in realtime on that computer screen. this video image was taken off their computer screen. chad myers joins us now to talk about this technology and how it all happened. chad, it's incredible planning on chile's part. this thing looked like a tv production, the way it was wired from just about every angle. >> no question about it. now, we do know that they used that technology so that they could see how far the capsule was coming down. and when it was going back up, as long as they knew it wasn't getting a little bit bent. let me show you what they did to make this different. this is your typical web cam. you can hook this up to any computer and you can talk to your grandmother on the other side of the country if she has another one just like this. you see her, and she sees you. the problem is the cord length. about 25 feet. even with a very good usb cord, you can go about 25 feet away from your computer before you start losing data.
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you start losing intensity of the camera itself. so how did they do it? how did they make this 2,000-foot drop? well, it's the same way i'm talking to you. a little bit less sophisticated, but we're talking, you and i, on fiber optic. we're not going back and forth on the satellite. that's why you and i don't have a satellite delay like you might get in the desert. well, the 2,000 feet they dropped this fiber optic cable down was attached to a video transmitter that transmitted the video on fiber optic, straight up one of those other holes that was drilled in the surface of the earth all the way down to the miners. they hooked up the video transmitter to a small little camera. it went up to the top, plugged into a laptop, and we were able to see the miners as that shaft, and the fenix 2 was coming down into their area. we could see it live, literally no delay whatsoever. and so could the people up above, pushing the -- letting
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the cable come down, to see how far that fenix capsule was going into the mine. they didn't want to crash you to the bottom, clearly they didn't want to damage it any time they went up and down. they made sure there was nobody standing in front of that camera every time that fenix capsule went up and down. >> they had also done this previously so that the miners could have contact with folks on the surface, not only family members, but also psychiatrists and counselors in case they were having emotional problems. >> no question about it. and in fact they had even -- if this was going to go on all the way until christmas, they were going to find a way for every miner to possibly have some type of internet connection as well. we know this happened a lot quicker than christmas, and every miner is very happy about that. >> yeah, we all are. chad, thanks. appreciate that. still ahead, more family stories as the men who rescued those men return to the surface. still two rescuers to come up. we'll be right back.
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>> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile! >> reporter: and there the by now traditional chant, it sounds like a soccer chant, but it's
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not. it's a chant in support of the chilean miners, the 33 that have spent more than two months now trapped half a mile underground, but that ordeal now, franklin lobos, former soccer star, is over. >> so many remarkable moments we've seen over the last 24 hours. that was our karl penhaul. this is who the family was waiting for, the moment they'd been hoping for. 33 miners now home safe. rescuers, two, still underground. on the right side of your screen, you see it there. one has come home to a new daughter named esperanza, also obviously the translation of that name is hope. another returned to a soap opera and a mistress. one is going to graceland. i want to go back to karl penhaul now. karl, we heard the story of the
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miner who had a mistress and a wife on the scene. who was there to greet that miner? >> reporter: well, today yonni barrios hoped he could go in the back door, he had gotten in hot water over who really was over the rightful wife. but today the woman that was there to greet yonni barrios as he came back to the surface was his girlfriend, his mistress, if you like. the woman that he left his wife to go and live with. yonni barrios calls her chana and she calls him "my titanic." why is that? because the pair of them, they say, absolutely love the movie "titanic." she told me that when i talked to her about one month ago. and she said that when yonni barrios came out, they would likely lock themselves at home for many days and watch the movie "titanic" once again.
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but yonni barrios on a serious point, has played a serious role because it was him who was known to his colleagues as dr. house. it was he receiving instructions from the medical officers up above. it was he who carried out all the medical tests, the urine tests, blood pressure tests on those 33 miners to make sure they stayed alive. to make sure any infects were treated. so he is in hot water with his love partners but that gives us example that these were somewhat unremarkable men, and since august 5th, they've been called upon to do absolutely remarkable things, anderson. >> yeah, and we're watching, karl, just so you know, on the right side of our screen a live image from underground. the capsule arriving to take the
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fifth rescue worker up above ground. there's just two men left. you see both the men there. one of them is loading his stuff into that capsule. and then he will make the long journey up. and then there will just be one man still to be rescued and then finally we can say that everybody, everybody, has been brought back alive. and that of course will be yet another joyous moment in the many we have witnessed over these last 24 hours. it's interesting that you talk about dr. house and the role he played, the medical role he played. each of these miners was assigned very specific tasks, and this was done prior to the world knowing they were alive. the miners organized themselves in those first 17 days to keep themselves busy. but afterward as the experts came in and nasa officials came in, their advice was to give them very specific tasks in order to keep people occupied, that it was important that people weren't just sitting around doing nothing. that everybody felt they had a role to play. correct, karl? >> reporter: that is absolutely
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true, anderson. but make no mistake, if it hadn't have been for the miners organizing themselves for the first 17 days, they would never have survived. they would never have lived to tell the tale. and i suspect it was the last man up, the shift foreman, luis urzua, who had a tremendous hand in organizing these men who had a tremendous hand in rationing out the food. there were just about 120 cans of tuna for the 33 men for those 17 days. work it out. it's a can of tuna every four days. not a lot to survive on, but each time we saw luis urzua subsequently in video the miners sent up, he was surrounded by plans and diagrams. never said a lot, but he was constantly planning. he was the last man up today. clearly a man who knows his responsibilities. clearly a man who knows his duties, like the captain on a sinking ship. he wanted to see all his men safely to the surface first. and when he was received by