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president sebastian pinera on the surface, the president simply looked at him and said, mr. urzua, your shift is over. that shift that began on august 5th, anderson, has now come to a close. all 33 miners are back on the surface safe and sound. >> yeah. and we just saw the pod leaving the -- that -- what had been a dark dungeon for 33 men for 69 days and now just the one rescue worker all alone by himself down there, waiting for the capsule to come down one last time. and as we watch now, everybody on the surface waiting for that fifth rescue worker to emerge t will probably take ten minutes or so for him to make it to the surface. karl we'll check in with you in the next hour, we're live all the way to the midnight hour. we'll be right back. affect wheat output in the u.s., the shipping industry in norway,
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welcome back to "360." we're live through the midnight hour, bringing you the latest, this operation still underway, history still unfolding in chile in a remote region where we've
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been witnessing truly something no one else has ever seen before. 33 men, never have so many men been underground for so long and been brought back alive. one man, still down below, the fifth rescue worker heading to the surface right now. obviously you can see kind of the mood of -- has lifted. there's levity. there's nothing but smiles all around. such a different scene than it was 24 hours ago at this time, before that first person had emerged, before the first miner had emerged when no one was sure, would the tunnel hold. would the capsule work. would everything go according to plan. and it has gone according to plan without any doubt. we've seen it, witnessed it every step of the way. the men who helped bring 33 trapped miners out, more than two months of confinement, now themselves heading home. let's remember -- and here he is, this is the fifth rescuer. [ applause ] >> i'm sorry, this is tape from earlier today. they chose the mission, they're
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risking their lives going down, now coming back up. this is one of the rescue workers emerging from the tunnel earlier tonight. right now all but one rescuers have made it back alive. [speaking in a foreign language] >> being thanked by the minister and head of the mines, being thanked for all he's done, for representing his country. the last miner, i want to show you the moment we witnessed in the 9:00 hour tonight, the last miner, luis urzua, leaving the -- leaving the mine. >> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile! [ applause ] >> this moment happened about two hours ago, him being cheered on by the rescue workers who stayed underground. six men underground.
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then the other moment i want to show you is what happened after he emerged on the surface. there you see the rescuers hugging each other. a job nearly completed. this is the last miner, out alive, luis urzua, arriving earlier tonight. the lifting going faster than at first. the entire operation proceeding a lot quicker than expected. let's just listen. [speaking in a foreign language] [ applause ] >> reports the chilean president saying that they're in perfect condition. when it was over, urzua spoke to chile's president, sebastian pinera. let's listen. >> translator: we're all so happy. morale would fall, but we had strength. we had strength for the workers. your son was here, your family
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was here. they never lost hope. every time i came to the mine, they said, they're alive. they're alive. they're alive. i think i believe those of us had faith, that held on to hope, that some day we'll be rescued. we thank god. that the first 17 days, the first 17 days you almost didn't eat. we had very little food. the last -- we were eating very little, because we want to leave something for later. you haven't seen it, your daughter. we love you.
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you deserve to celebrate. i think this is a moment in history. there's a reason why god does things. i hope this will be for the best. maybe this will be an example. you are not the same. and the country is not the same after this. you are an inspiration. go, go hug your wife and your daughter. >> and that, he certainly did. this, the fifth rescue worker now about to emerge. let's listen in. [ applause ] [speaking in a foreign language]
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>> translator: now the doctor's not going to look at you because he just left. [ applause ] >> translator: you have accomplished your mission. congratulations. great job. great job. >> and you see behind, very quickly, they're trying to get that pod back in the ground, back for the last rescue worker. the last rescue worker to emerge, manuel gonzales. if the name sounds familiar, he was also the first rescue worker in the ground. in a moment we'll go to gary tuchman who is live on the scene. as we do, i want to try to pull the videotape from manuel gonzalez from 24 hours ago when he first went down, and first
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got -- made contact. i want to be able to show you the moment that these miners first met manuel gonzalez, the first human contact they had had, just to bring this full circle, so that we have the moment manuel gonzalez went down. we'll also bring you live the moment he leaves this mine. the last human being left down in this mine. let's go to gary tuchman now, who has been on the scene now for a very long 24-hour period. gary, we're very close to being able to say once and for all that this has been a completely successful operation, and that everybody has been brought back alive. one person left. >> reporter: well, that's right, anderson, on a very cold night in the north chilean desert, there's a very warm feeling because of that success. all 33 miners are safe and are back home, and probably within the next 15 minutes, all the mine rescue experts will be out of the mine, and the mine, that tunnel, 2,100-foot tunnel, will be empty forever.
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you know, it was exactly 24 hours ago precisely to the minute, anderson, that the first miner came out behind us. at this point, it was an amazing moment. our hearts were in our throats. we were quiet because we were so concerned and worried. we weren't necessarily sure this would work. they had tested this capsule, they tested it without human beings. so when they sent the mine expert down, a half hour before that, he made it to the bottom, the dungeon, the so-called dungeon, but then the miner came up. it was a relief for the family, the journalists and the world watching. the tension was released. there was relief. but seeing the emotion, from family members, from their friends, was just overwhelming. you can just never get tired of it. these miners are so fortunate in so many ways, fortunate they were rescued. fortunate they survived underground. they were found.
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but something we haven't talked about much, but survived the initial collapse on august 5th the geology of this area, it's full of boulders. tons of boulders fell into the mine where i'm standing right now. here's one of the boulders sticking around right here. if this boulder by itself falls on your head, it will kill you. it's one boulder. there were 33 miners, none of them got hit by the boulders. none of them got hit by the tons of rubble but they were trapped. that's the point we have to bring up. there is a possibility, and when you think about it, it makes you quite scared for them. maybe they wouldn't have been found ever. but they were found, they have been rescued, and it's a really good news story, a great ending over this 24-hour period. anderson? >> yeah. and we're waiting now the capsule moving down to get manuel gonzalez, the last rescuer to leave this mine. the last human being left in this mine, also the first rescuer, as i said, to greet the miners. i just want to show you the video we were stunned to see. we didn't know it was coming last night, when manuel gonzalez
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descended some 2,300 feet and actually made contact with the miners for the first time. let's just listen. [speaking in a foreign language] [speaking in a foreign language] >> this, being watched above by the chilean president, mining officials watching this on a laptop, as we were watching it.
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a camera was present, so this is literally what they were looking, and the voices you hear are both people above the ground watching, clapping, but also miners below ground. and there you see manuel gonzalez, the first rescuer hugging and being applauded by the other miners. beautiful moment. incredible. so now, it seems fitting that he will be the last to leave this mine, we want to bring that to you live, of course. so stay tuned, we're going to take a quick break as we follow this, the capsule still descending. you can see that the live picture of manuel gonzalez right now waiting, waiting for the capsule to emerge. you just see him in shadow. he is being watched very closely, and they're having a conversation with officials above ground. we're going to bring you his -- there he is. >> translator: don't forget to say good-bye at the end before you jump inside the cage.
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>> let's take a quick break so we can capture this moment live. also some of the medical hurdles some of the miners now face. we'll be right back.
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okay, you're looking at -- let's listen to the conversation between mine officials above the ground and manuel gonzalez, the final rescue worker underground. let's listen. [speaking in a foreign language] >> thought there was going to be a translation, it's been sort of intermittent. >> translator: superhero of the 33. that sounds great, doesn't it? manuel gonzalez the hero of the 33. that sounds great.
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the guru spoke. the guru spoke. not much longer now. not much longer. okay, i feel it. it's closer. it's getting closer. 300. 300 meters. halfway through. there's a book here. there's a book here on how they should -- they should communicate with the press and
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talk to people. somebody took it up with them. we saw you reading with a lot of interest. now we know you were praying. for 160 meters. not much longer now. not much longer. we kept praying for everything to go -- >> we're showing you on the left-hand side of the screen, the lower side, that's manuel gonzalez 24 hours ago when he was first getting in the capsule to be the first rescue worker down to the miners. clearly very different mood, the man you see now, talking on the right-hand side of your screen, waiting to be the last man out, and before on the left-hand side. let's listen.
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>> translator: i've been away from home for a week, and i can't imagine what it must have been like to have been away for 70 days. that must have been terrible. the happiness that they felt when you arrived, it was -- it was immense. it was -- they would hug each other. it was -- it was such hope. because they realized that it was -- it was going to work. they saw the first one leave, we were telling them you need to stay calm, to pray, to sing, with roberto, he just made a little show, and then they just left happy.
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they were calm. when they were leaving. we're really happy. here it comes. here it comes. you have to clear because you're going to be back here every year. how are you? good. we're waiting for you up here with very anxious, we're waiting for you. this is it. we're almost there. you want to see the capsule, the images of you arriving there were incredible. i was -- i felt such a rush of emotion. i had a knot in my throat. i felt the love. i felt their love. it was like as if the rescuer had arrived. it was an incredible moment.
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i almost cried, because i felt the love. they hugged me, they -- >> we're going to show you the left-hand side of the screen. the images they're talking about when the first capsule came through with manuel gonzalez, that was 24 hours ago on the left-hand side of your screen. you're about to see on the right-hand side of your screen the capsule to take manuel gonzalez, the last human being under the ground, to take him to safety. >> translator: this will be the most amazing memory. and the arrivals of each one of them up here, it was unbelievable. and, of course, the last -- and, of course, the last one, the general, they were all beautiful. there wasn't -- not even one -- here it comes. here it comes. there, it's arriving. okay, manuel. we'll wait for you up here.
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manuel, don't forget, don't forget to say your good-byes in front of the camera. a little bit lower. they're going to -- >> again, the left side of your screen, you're looking at 24 hours ago when manuel gonzalez first arrived in that mine, being greeted by the miners. all the miners now have gone on the right-hand side of your screen. the live picture. the capsule has arrived, let's listen in. >> translator: we're waiting for you up here, so come up. being in the depths of that mine by yourself, wow. you're a big man. [ cheers and applause ]
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>> translator: you're a big, big man, manuel. he's bringing his rocks. careful. he's entering the pod. he'll give us a signal for the ascent, to begin the ascent. and that's the signal. >> manuel! >> translator: copy that? we're beginning the ascent.
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[ applause ] >> and there you have it. slowly, slowly, manuel gonzalez, the last human being underground, is heading home. we're going to take a short break, and we'll show you what happens when he gets to the surface. we'll be right back. [ man ] november 15th.
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and welcome back. everyone is gathered around. can you see more of a crowd of mining officials, the last rescue worker heading to the surface, manuel gonzalez, also the first rescue worker to go down. each of these workers has risked their lives. and manuel gonzalez has left the mine. we'll show you that video as we saw it a few moments ago right before the commercial break, that's on the bottom left-hand side of your screen right below me. that's the capsule for the last time leaving the underground
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tomb that these 33 men and these six rescue workers had been in. and now he is on the short road home. we should be saying. he's probably about five minutes away. we'll continue to bring you all of this -- this is truly the end of what has been a remarkably successful rescue operation. gary tuchman is on the scene as well, and, gary, we'll just -- what happens -- what happens on this location once manuel gonzalez gets up top? i mean, do they just start to break this thing down? are there still family members all around? have they moved to the hospital area? what's it like around the location of the mine? >> reporter: camp hope, which is what this area has been dubbed, has been very crowded the last few weeks, with more than 1,000 people at most, in the last few days more than 2,000 people, many news media, police officials and the family. but we expect this area will
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become what it has been for eons, empty, barren. the only thing that was here was the mine. workers had to drive 45 minutes to the nearest town to get here. there is nobody who lives here. and right now there are no creature comforts, no bathrooms, no showers. we are sleeping in tents on the desert sand. it is very primitive. but it is a city that has been created because of the hope that the family members would see their loved ones again, and indeed that's what's happened over the last 24 hours, all 33 men have come home. >> we've been trying to let our viewers try to experience this as much as possible, without us talking, so i want to bring you to what is happening now around this mine, as these men who have risked their lives, who have spent the last 69 days trying to get these men out of the mine, have gathered to bring their comrade home. let's just try to listen in, see if they are saying anything, and just kind of experience this as they are experiencing it.
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>> translator: 200 meters. >> chile's president is there. >> woo! >> kind of making jokes about the sound that the siren makes when each of the miners was being brought up, imitating the
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sound. many of these mine officials, they have become like family over the last 69 days, as they worked literally around the clock, trying to figure out how to get these men out of the earth. they had three different drills working, three different plans, plan a, plan b, plan c. it was plan b that ended up working. the drill that was brought in, the experts brought in from the united states, two drillers who had actually been working in afghanistan, brought in directly from the field in afghanistan, working on this mine, standing all day in shifts, both day and night. i talked to one of the drillers last night who said that you
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literally have to stand to feel, to feel it through your feet. to feel where the drill is going, how the drill is going, what progress is being made. and plan b certainly worked, beating all expectations. that's chile's president right there. minister of mines to his right. >> translator: here's a lid. >> while we're waiting, seeing it on the right, on the left-hand side, maybe we'll put up those first images of manuel gonzalez as he first descended 24 hours ago, and the levity we're seeing now, the happiness, the relief of all those who have gathered. it was a very different picture
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24 hours ago. when manuel gonzalez carefully was loaded into that capsule, taking some last breaths of oxygen. and beginning a journey that, frankly, no one knew how it would go. they hadn't had a human being in the capsule who went all the way down. they didn't know if the shaft that they had drilled would hold. >> translator: how's it going? things are going well. we're waiting for you right here. >> they're actually yelling down now to manuel gonzalez. just moments away now. >> translator: slowly, slowly. >> again, this was manuel gonzalez on the left side of your screen 24 hours ago, being
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loaded down. first man down. and here he is, about to emerge, the last man up. >> translator: we want your autograph. three, two, one. zero. [ cheers and applause ] >> and with that, history has been made, completely successful operation. the first time man has been underground that long and survived.
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>> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile! >> translator: how did it go? how did it go? very brave. very brave. thank you. thank you. thank you, so much. thank you. mission accomplished. we were able to rescue the 33 and the rescuers. thank you. [ applause ] >> translator: mr. president, excellent. did you leave everything in order down there? are the beds made? you didn't turn off the light.
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when you ordered, it's done. 70 days. first anguish, then hope, and now the happiness of having accomplished this mission. manuel, you were the last one down there. what was your last thought? mr. president, that i hope this never happens again. i hope that the chilean mining will be different. that i hope things will be done correctly and that small mining things will be done correctly. this is what i want. in some days we'll be announcing a new treaty, protection dignity, to protect all the
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workers in chile. not only mining, but also in transportation, agriculture, mining, fishing, industry, but with this rescue team, we're ready for anything. i will ask all these rescue workers that, they have the final judgment, to come rescue us, and rescue us from -- where some of us are going to end up for a couple seasons. it's been a long journey. but now we are proud of the miners, of the families of the miners, and we're proud of the chilean rescuers.
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this team of rescuers that was able to reduce the time of the rescue from an hour to 20 minutes. guys, you have won the appreciation and gratitude of all the chileans. you deserve it. [ applause ] >> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! >> translator: we're going to remove the pod.
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>> there in the center of your screen, you see the capsule that made it all possible. in this world of high-tech computers and high-tech devices, it is a relatively simple, relatively primitive piece of machinery. but what it has done has been extraordinary. we're going to take a short break. our coverage continues all the way to the midnight hour. we have new pictures, new images of some of the miners in the hospital. this is miners' families watching manuel gonzalez emerging. let's listen in. >> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile!
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and we are back watching the breaking news tonight, manuel gonzalez, the final mine rescuer, back on the surface. moments ago, chile's president putting a cap on the shaft. patrick oppmann has new video from the hospital where some of the miners are. patrick, what are you hearing from the hospital? >> reporter: more of the miners
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are arriving and the photojournalist and i saw several of them being wheeled in. and what a scene it was. they've let the public, the towns people of copiapo, they've lined up from keeping us getting too close, and wheeled the men in. as you would imagine, anderson, they got a standing ovation. people were going absolutely crazy. the miners were just as interested in us and the crowd here as we were. we're playing video from when luis urzua came to the surface. that was the reaction of some of the family in the lobby when they saw the final miner, again, scenes of incredible emotion, incredible passion, and for these people to finally have all miners above ground, there is a mining community -- sorry, go ahead? >> patrick, you're saying you saw some of the miners being brought in recently. where are they being brought in from? are they being brought in from the sort of field hospital down near the mine?
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why would they just be coming in now? >> reporter: yes. yes. because what happens is after they're taken from the mine, they have about a two-hour checkup at that field hospital, then they're allowed some time with their families, then they're put on a helicopter, flown here. there's a military base just about a half mile away from us. then they're driven in from that military base, that military helipad, the copiapo regional hospital where they'll spend the next few days. they're letting the public see this brief glimpse of them as they're wheeled in. they're wheeled in in hospital scrubs. they have those dark, thick, oakley sunglasses on, and they're looking around, very curious as to who all these people are clapping and cheering them on as they're wheeled into the hospital. they'll be here for a few days getting a full barrage of tests. medical officials wanted to make sure they're healthy, mentally and physically before released back to this community, back to their families, anderson. >> patrick, appreciate all the reporting you've been doing over these last 24 hours.
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i know it's been a long 24 hours for you. want to bring in dr. kimberly manning of emory university. dr. manning, they're still wearing the glasses, some of the miners are still wearing the glasses. how long do they have to keep glasses on for? how long is the eyes' adjustment to light an issue? >> this has really been a precautionary measure. and really the thinking right now is they've been in darkness for so long, that the eyes have been dilated or in a period of dilation for so long there was fear that the gentlemen could damage the retinas by the exposure to the light. really that period of adjustment isn't very long. we would anticipate that in -- as soon as maybe 48 hours or so these gentlemen can come out of the glasses, maybe even sooner. but really in terms of being specific, they'll need to be evaluated by ophthalmologists or eye specialists who i'm sure can
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give the green light on when those can come off. >> dennis o'dell, we just heard the last rescuer, manuel gonzalez, saying to the president of chile, i want to make sure this doesn't happen again. we have to make sure mining is done right in this country and that workers are protected. obviously there are protections in the united states, though clearly we've seen a number of instances where -- repeated instances where it hasn't been enough. but in chile, in a mine like this in a very remote region, how much oversight is there, really? >> well, you know, it's unclear, anderson. you heard, not only the last rescue worker come out that said that, but you heard some of the miners say that we want to make sure this doesn't happen again in the future. so it makes you believe that the regulations probably aren't as strict as they are in places like we have here in the united states and canada and australia and some other places like that. so -- but i did hear the president say that that's something they were going to look at, is better worker
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protections not only for miners, but for all workers throughout the entire country. so hopefully as a result of this, which unfortunately, you know, you and i have talked about this in the past, too, is usually the way you only get changes is by the blood of miner -- or catastrophes like this. this is going to force them to make some changes in the way that they do business. they're going to have to take the attitude that profits have to come behind safety. safety has to be the number one priority. so hopefully people heed to that. >> especially, chile's president has been all over this event and has been front and center these last 24 hours. appearing on camera just all around. so certainly he seems to be at least staking his public persona on, you know, standing with -- with the miners. let's see if he follows through and the safety, that mines have second exits. this didn't have a second exit. there was really only one way in and one way out of this mine, correct? >> correct.
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that's almost unheard of, if you think about it. because, as we've seen, anything can happen. so i think that's one of the first and foremost things they have to look at, is better support, as far as the rough conditions go, and have a primary and secondary means of escape. a lot of that has to take place as a result of this. and i would think that if they're going to make any real changes, and they want to be serious about it, that's something that they have to put into steps immediately. >> dr. manning, you know, obviously there's so much attention now on these miners, that can be a blessing and a curse, obviously, you know it's like somebody winning the lottery. we heard earlier about money being offered to them, and life-changing offers. these are guys who earned about $1,000 i think to $1500 a month, which is a huge salary in chile. in multiple times what the
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average person earns there. but we're hearing big dollar figures being thrown around for exclusive interviews. what -- psychologically, how concerned are you on the impact of not just what they've been through, but what they will be going through, in terms of worldwide attention and interest in them? >> there's definitely going to be a new normal for all of these gentlemen, and i think that is a very big concern of many health care professionals, specifically i'd have a really big concern about the possibility of substance abuse. things like alcoholism. the reason for that is that usually if you think about problems with substance abuse and any type of addictive behavior, you see that in extremes. extremes of happiness, and extremes of despair. and these gentlemen will be going back and forth between both of those things, with all that's happening. i think with all of the attention, their families will lose a lot of privacy. it will be very difficult for some of the individuals, say, for example, the oldest of the miners, 63-year-old mario gomez, i think his name is, who actually had been mining since he was 12 years old.
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this will be a huge life change for him. and he may just suffer from panic attacks, panic disorder, making him not want to go back toward a mine. so this will be a new normal. it will be very tough for them psychologically. >> we're told these are live pictures from inside one of the hospitals, the last miners arriving at the hospital. so you are seeing these pictures as we are seeing them. we're going to be right back. our coverage continues to the midnight hour. [ female annou] laundry's clean. how about the counter? bring it. in this lab test, one sheet of bounty leaves this surface 3x cleaner than the bargain brand. super absorbent. super durable. super clean. bounty. the clean picker upper.
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[speaking in a foreign language] and the breaking news continues tonight, a few moments ago the last rescue worker, back on the surface. manuel gonzalez is his name.
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the first one down, last one back. he was also -- well, all the rescue workers, extraordinarily risking their lives to help 33 of their colleagues, their miners, now all back safe and alive. i want to check in once again with cnn's karl penhaul. karl, it's been a remarkable 24 hours, i think, for everybody involved. for you, what -- what happens now, what sticks out in your mind over the last 24 hours? >> reporter: well, i think, you know, you'd have to go back to each one of those individual rescues and see at the moment that each miner stepped out of the fenix 2 rescue capsule and went back into the arms of the people they most loved in this life. it became a little bit routine toward the end of the day, to see the fenix capsule going so smoothly up and down. but what was completely not routine was the way that each family celebrated in its own
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way, a rebirth of sorts for the miner and a rebirth of sorts for the family. because this is what all the families i've spoken to have said, that this really does mark a before and an after. these miners and their families cannot simply go home and pick up the pieces of a normal life. their lives have now been changed forever. and tonight, here in camp hope, there very much is a feeling of what now? they've been through some of the most intense experiences of their lives, and now tomorrow is a very different scenario, anderson. >> no doubt about that, everyone involved in their lives will change in one way or another. karl, appreciate all your reporting, not just over the last 24 hours but over the last 69 to 70 days, as you have covered this really from the beginning of this horrific incident that began, seemingly so long ago. you're looking at live pictures on the right-hand side of your
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screen from chilean television. the last of the miners being helicoptered to the hospital. this is the road some of them will be driven down in order to get to that hospital. we'll have more on the family reunions that riveted chile and the world.
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for all of us who have watched the rescues over the last 24 hours, what we've witnessed is simply breathtaking. so many moments that would literally send chills down my spine, everyone's. 33 men safe tonight. each man pulled out of the shaft like a rebirth, as karl penhaul was pointing out. tom foreman takes a look back at
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last 24 hours and the most remarkable moments. >> reporter: mario sepulveda d . the long night ended for the youngest miner, jimmy sanchez, 19. for the only foreigner, bolivian carlos mamani. and the note that told everyone, we're alive. at 63, mario gomez, the oldest, was the first freed in the new dawn. he kissed his wife and prayed.

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