nuts decrease macular degeneration by 35%. good news here. one tablespoon of olive oil a day drops blurry vision by a half. key ingredient is omega3 fatty acids. that's the good acids, good fat. i'll give you one more tip. if you think about these foods because we talked about this, the best foods as far as omega3s go, salmon, tuna and mackerel. as far as the nuts, walnuts are probably the best. hope that helps you. thanks for watching. i'm dr. sanjay gupta. more news on cnn starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hey there everybody from the cnn center in atlanta, georgia, this is your "cnn sunday morning," 8:00 a.m. here on the east coast. good morning to you all. i'm t.j. holmes. >> i'm indicate bold uni. thanks for starting your day with us. a troubling story a baltimore police officer killed. he was off duty and just trying to park his car, we're told, when he got into some kind of

altercation. this morning, we're talking live to the spokesperson from the department about the officer's life. also public displays of affection not wanted at one particular mall after a couple that was holding hands and shared a kiss got kicked out of the mall, but there's more to the story than that, and it's now leading to a big rally that's coming up in just a few hours. we'll explain in a moment. first a look at other stories making headlines. first you need to check that freezer of yours. some frozen vegetables out there sold at walmart and kroger might have pieces of glass in them. the supplier for both store brands is recalling 12-ounce bags of green peas along with peas and carrots under the kroger label also the great value brand of 12 ounce bags of steamable peas and mixed vegetables recalled, concerns about possible glass shardles in the packaging. no reports of injuries about

these packages of peas and other vegetables just yet, though. still you need check it and you can get a refund. police in sacramento, california, say one suspect is in custody, another hospitalized after a musician tried to help a man who was being assaulted by those two suspects. this happened outside a restaurant where a band was playing. police say the musician shot one of the men as he intervened in that attack. police haven't decided if charges will be filed against that supposedly good samaritan. and flooding in southern russia, has left 13 people dead, 12 other people still missing right now. about 20 villages have had to be evacuated because of this flooding and the initial damage estimates are above $10 million. we begin this hour with what baltimore's police commissioner is calling the senseless death of a fantastic officer who apparently died arguing over a parking space. police say detective brian stephenson, an 18-year veteran of the force was hit in the head with a piece of conkreecrete oue

a night spot late last night. he later died on the eve of his 38th birthday. >> this is an utterly senseless act. we have lost an officer who meant a lot to his family, to his community, and certainly to his brothers and sisters in blue, who are devastated by this incident. >> he worked, you know, trying to capture burglars and identify people who are out there doing a lot of the stuff we see every day, the assaults and street robberies and you know, he dedicated himself to getting that done, and it's a loss. it's a huge loss to us. >> baltimore police spokesman anthony guliemi joins m with more on the situation surrounding detective stevenson's death. good morning. thank you so much for joining

me. can you tell me first off do you have a suspect in custody, that's one quick question i want to make sure we cleared up. >> we do. we have a couple people of interest in custody and homicide detectives have been working through the night interviewing the individuals along with talking with some witnesses and people that were attending the establishment where the detective was killed. >> obviously you don't want to get ahead of where things stand with the investigation but is anyone actually charged with the crime? >> no. not yet and you know you hit the nail on the head. we don't want to get ahead of the investigation. we want to make sure they are methodical and that we get every single detail in this case. this is a senseless, senseless tragedy for something incredibly petty, and the baltimore police department is grief-stricken and the family of detective stevenson is simply devastated. >> i wanted to ask you about that. we're told this started over a

dispute over a parking space. any idea how or why this escalated to this point? >> you know, we're trying to figure all that out now. i mean it's an act of violence, you're right, resulted in a fight over a parking spot, something so incredibly silly, that an 18-year veteran of the police department, a really great detective lost his life. detective stevenson was celebrating his birthday today, he would have been 38 years old and we're just very fortunate that we have some really great officers in the department who work tirelessly to get some suspects into custody overnight, and the mayor and the police commissioner have been at the hospital until about 4:00 or 5:00 this morning with the family and we have an autopsy scheduled for about 8:15 this morning so once that takes place, we're building our case and we're hopeful to have some charges later in the day today. >> later today, well later in the day we'll follow that closely. thanks for your time this

morning, it's been a rough few weeks for the baltimore city police department. another officer was killed in an accident a car accident late september so thanks so much for your time this morning. >> thank you. we want to turn to politics here now, a little more than two weeks left before the midterm elections. big names out and about in the campaign trail. the fire pelosi bus tour pulling into indianapolis. the gop sponsored bus is trying to fire up republicans to work against house speaker nancy pelosi and former president bill clinton is giving a speech tonight at san jose state university, campaigning for jerry brown's bid to become california's governor. busy time for sarah palin now, a rally before the gop in reno, nevada, that's tomorrow. polls show republican challenger sharron angle is neck and neck with senate majority leader harry reid. president obama will be speaking at usc, a rally there on friday, he's trying to encourage those young voters to make sure they

turn out in the midterms. they were a crucial group that helped him win the white house. the president was in boston last night, he was there to stump for a good friend, governor deval patrick who like the president sees his popularity slipping. polls. show the governor is in a dead heat with republican charlie baker. the president urged democrats to not let republicans take back control of congress. >> i understand that sometimes hope may have faded as we've grinded out this work over the last several years. i know it's hard to keep faith when a family member still hasn't found a job, after months of trying. or another foreclosure sign is hung on the house down the street, and you're watching tv and all you see are politicians tearing each other down and pundits who treat politics like a sport. i know it can be discouraging, but don't ever let anybody tell you this fight isn't worth it.

don't ever let them tell you you're not making a difference. >> also there, not just supporters of the president but some hecklers showed up last night. they carried signs that said, "keep the promise," also signs that said "broken promises. kill," loss another sign spotted that said "fight global aids." a lot of people calling on the. the to do more to fight aids around the world. the president did respond to those hecklers. take a listen to this. you can't really hear the hecklers and make out what they're saying but they made enough noise that the president went off script and felt he needed to take them on and address them directly. listen. >> one of the great things about being a democrat is, we like arguing with each other. but i would suggest to the folks who are concerned about aids funding, take a look at what the republican leadership has to say about aids funding. >> and a far different tone at a

republican fund-raiser and rally last night in anaheim, california, some 2,000 people turned out to see gop star and former vice presidential candidate sarah palin, along with party chairman republican party chairman michael steele. both of whom believe the republicans are on the verge of big gains in washington come november. >> the momentum is with us but now is not the time to let up. you know now is not the time to celebrate, not quite yet. we've got 17 days to go. we can't be thinking that it's over yet and we've got it in the bag, as yogi would have said "it ain't over 'til it's over." we got to leave the dancing to someone else for right about now but soon, soon we'll all be dancing. >> we don't need obama to care for us. therefore, we don't need obama care. we don't need harry reid to figure out how our businesses work. therefore, he can retire. we don't need nancy pelosi, period.

this is your moment. >> meanwhile arizona senator john mccain was in san diego last night, stumping for u.s. senate hopeful carly fiorina of california. he had stinging words for incumbent u.s. senator barbara boxer. >> barbara boxer is the most bitt bitt bitterly partisan most anti-defense senator in the united states senate today. i know that because i've had the unpleasant experience of having to serve with her. >> that's a co-worker he's talking about. >> it's getting dirty. it's getting mean. >> i get it. it's the political season, but come on. are you serious? and i got to go out -- >> you're always surprised but this happens. >> it's just we hear from one side, they're lowing it on the other side, lobbying the accusations and they're being

partisan. i'm sorry. >> welcome to politics. >> i got to go back out and deal with this stuff again, all this week. i'm heading out today back on the election express. hopefully i can skip some of that stuff and coming out to talk to you folks in north carolina, first stop, charlotte, then columbia, south carolina, and macon, jacksonville on thursday and tampa on friday and coming out trying to talk to you, trying to see what you're concerned about, out there as the election express rolls on this election season. do me a favor if you can, send me a message before i get to your town, let us know what we should be talking about, what we should see, maybe who we should talk to no n your particular town. find me tjholmes at twitter and facebook >> this fan doesn't look like teen singing sensation justin bieber. why is his phone ringing off the hook and being treated like a celebrity? also we are going to be hearing from some young folks, some of our youngest viewers

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i'll see you soon. >> shortly >> shortly, i'll be heading back. got to get back to work. i can't play all the tile. >> are you working today when you go back? i know what you're doing. lying to the viewers. >> i was giving you a compliment saying this was fun. >> bonnie, clearly, oh, you the me over there, having earpiece issues. >> couldn't hear you, sorry. i think somebody was talking to me but i didn't hear it. everything is doing well, i love that "here comes the sun" because we're looking at nice conditions out there this morning, if not a little brisk for you. we have temperatures that may surprise new the heart of the south. the numbers are in the 40s. 46 degrees in jackson, mississippi, 44 in birmingham, alabama, 49 in atlanta and a brisk and chilly deez in nashville, tennessee. the sun is shining, a brisk start to the day. those of you that are traveling i have a lot to tell. check this out, all the planes. in the air right now, over 2,111 planes in the air, most of the

activity in the eastern half of the country certainly because it's pretty early out west. so far so good. we are anticipating some travel troubles on this sunday and i want to show you where they are so you're prepared and you know exactly what to expect for today. remember the nor'easter we had that brought wind and rain to new england, it's pretty much pulled away but behind it we still have some very strong wind gusts that will continue to hit much of new england, so that means we could see airport delays in boston, for example, 30 to 60 minutes. newark, new jersey, looking at delays and west coast, clouds and rain may slow you down in san francisco. overall so far so good for this sunday in october. a lot more coming up straight ahead on "cnn sunday morning." ♪ when the parts for the line ♪ ♪ come precisely on time ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ a continuous link, that is always in sync ♪ ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ there will be no more stress ♪

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♪ baby, baby, oh, baby, baby, baby, no ♪ ♪ like baby, baby, baby, oh ♪ i thought you'd always be mine, mine ♪ i hope you all are justin bieber fans, we gave you a good dose this morning. are you guys? >> umm -- i'm a fan of music. >> fan of music. >> i'll admit i like justin bieber. when it's on the radio i don't change it. >> i may change it. >> a lot of people love justin bieber. >> he has a ton of fans. >> he floats around in atlanta. look at these two guys. >> do they look alike? to you? >> maybe justin the youngler look like that when he gets older. >> maybe.

maybe. >> grows a goatee. >> both of those guys are justin bieber, but the one on the left is 35 years old and lives in jacksonville. the one on the right is 16 years old and floats around here in atlanta like i mentioned but the guy on the left has been getting phone calls and he has been getting nonstop mail because people see his name and it's spelled just the same, "justin bieber." listen to him describe what he has been going through now. >> first mail was about two years ago, and pretty shortly after that was when the phone started ringing. when i don't recognize an address on them i usually don't open them because i figure they're not really meant for me. especially when they have little hearts written all over them. that would make my wife a little grumpy. >> i can only imagine how cute the mail is. he has so many, the other justin bieber has so many young fans. >> he did say he gets some

telling him that hey you can't sing, or complaining like that as well. most of them not the case but he also said the upside, bonnie, this makes sense, i don't know how many people, schneider is not that hard but sometimes people have a tough time pronouncing their name and now everybody knows how to pronounce his name. >> people think he's an imposter. air not justin bieber but he really is. >> just 20 years older. one more story, sports fans, either one of you? >> yes. >> well that was a ringing endorsement. you wouldn't mind this but kate would. folks will miss their fox nfl football games in the new york area, 3 million people are without fox on their cablevision cable because of the dispute between the two companies, news corps and fox. >> cablevision. >> can't come to an agreement

about how much money should be paid to fox to carry the program on cablevision. so if the yankees. happen to make the world series, which is a good possibility they can, the world series is carried on fox, new yorkers going to have a problem. >> as you were saying that -- >> people are going to be switching their cable. >> i was think being my family, missing all those sports, especially the giants, my dad. not good. crazy. >> people get -- >> crazy about their sports. >> crazy about their sports. >> the fcc is trying to get them to work it out. nothing yet. you'll have your cnn though, we'll never leave your cable provider. >> that's right. we love talking about sports. >> quick break, folks. ♪ ♪ where'd you learn to do that so well. ♪ the new cadillac srx.

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21 minutes past the hour. creeping closer and closer to election day. cnn.com is the good way to keep track of all the races. >> josh levs is here with that this morning. >> hey there, guys. talking about a lot of specific races around the country. what's happening right now, more and more of you are starting to look at your local races in these final days trying to make decisions how you're going to vote and learn more about it. cnn.com/election has a really great spread for you. i want to start off looking at the senate because this is a clean map here, looking at the senate race here, everywhere you see blue or red there's a race taking place. it will give you the basics about what's going on there, you can learn all the basics there. i mentioned this once a couple hours ago. more senate races than almost ever because of three special elections. 37 of these going on. take a look here, house races is even more complex here and great. you can find what's going on in your individual district. pick a state at random and we'll

go into iowa and once you're inside iowa, click on your district, boom, you get who the candidates are and click around to get a lot more information. at any time you can get back to the national map that will talk to you about all of the races going on in all 50 states and where things stand and the governorships, we have more races than usual as well because of a special election in utah, 37 of those. take a look again, click on your state t will give you basics. we also have something called a polling center, and i find the polling center striking. i pulled out some facts from it. i think what it does is -- it goes black when you don't want it to. let's go back here. it talks about what some of the key issues are that are facing the country, what voters are telling people are most worried about. latest polls all the time and a rundown on the major issues, the economy, the deficit, health care, where candidates stand on it and what the latest polls say about that. so just check it out any time,

cnn.com/election. hopefully it will help you get educated. 16 days away to big voting day. >> i know we talked about this earlier there are so many names, so many races, so many names, so many candidates that cnn.com/politics is extremely helpful now. >> best place to be. >> we're a fan of it, folks f you haven't noticed. cnn.com/politics. >> thank you for pushing it. >> yep. taking a look at some of the stories making headlines, 13 people killed and flooding in southern russia, according to state media there. local official says a pregnant woman among the dead. they've been seeing torrential rains that caused the rivers to overflow. 20 villages had to be evacuated. damage is estimated at about $10 million. also take a look at this piece of video, a pickup truck crashing through the door of a north carolina church.

this was yesterday in greensb o greensboro. police say the driver tried to leave the scene. people were inside the church at the time of the crash but luckily nobody was injured. services will go on as usual today. might be going on right about now. also a beloved tv mom has passed away. actress barbara billingsley has died. she was best known as june cleaver from "leave it to the beaver" remembered as the helpful passenger who spoke jive in the film "airplane." billingsley, 94 years old.

27 minutes past the hour now. you've been hearing the words inspiring, uplifting, triumphant, a few of the descriptions about the chilean mine rescue. >> carlos is here to talk about the impact on students. what have you been hearing from high school and middle school? >> they're thrilled about it for a number of reasons. the news is catastrophic, can be

tragic or sad. we hit political headlines and cover the economy which many people argue is tragic and sad. but for students, this was a chance to celebrate the news and that's something they don't get a chance to do too often, become a where were you when moment for them and you can hear that in this comment from tatiana. she wrote in nao our blog she's happy she's alive to witness this. she's looking forward to telling people younger than she is, and our audience is middle and high school students about this event. also mina tells us a story about how her class was clapping and celebrating. another class passed by. her teacher told her to announce to them what happened and the class started celebrating so it created a commotion in the hallway of that school. so this is a great chance for them to really get into the news and be happy about something they're seeing. >> how much were they following it up to the rescue? of course everybody was captivated by the images when they started coming out. were the kids really taken by the story before the images really started coming out?

>> that's a good question. we had a lot of them talk to us, it was several weeks ago saying one headline they wanted to see was that the folks had been rescued. they were hearing cnn student news and going home and watching the news, had a sense those guys had been down there awhile and started talking to us saying we want to see that happen and added to their excitement. >> you mentioned shortly ago teachers are using this as a teachable moment. what do you mean? >> we have something new at cnnstudentnews.com, the cnn teacher's lounge, inviting teachers and parents if you want to comment on the news. the subject this time around is the teachable moment from the chilean mine rescue and i have a comment like we're getting on our cnn teacher's laos from reading rocks, an english teacher tells us it's taken us out of our comfort zone as americans and allowed to us write about topics and as an english teacher grateful to talk about writing with the conviction they might not otherwise have had.

another comment from a teacher talking about tolerance, how this was helping this teacher illustrate to their students good examples of tolerating specifically people when you're in close quarters with 32 others for that length of time. >> very interesting. >> a lot of different angles. >> we're glad we have wide open space here. plenty of room in the studio. thank you guys. carl, good to see you as always. the chilean mine rescue is an inspiration for so many people. coming up in our "faces of faith" we look at what some miners say kept them going in that 69-day ordeal. also a couple kicked out of a shopping mall for their display of affection. what in the world were they doing or is it really about more so who they are? one of the women speaks out. you can have something decadent with something grilled. then something crunchy, then something new -- like parmesan shrimp in a buttery garlic sauce. and after that, you can do it all again.

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let's get a check of some of our top stories. a baltimore, maryland, police department identified the off-duty detective killed last night in a dispute that apparently began over a restaurant parking space. police say 18-year veteran brian stevenson died shortly after he was hit in the head with a piece of concrete. stevenson was celebrating his 38th birthday. we talked to a police spokesman earlier this hour who said they hoped to announce charges later today. iranian authorities have released an iranian-american businessman detained there for more than two years. rosa tagafi had been locked up in prison since may 2000. he was accused of trying to restore the monarchy in iran. also a vegetable recall we want to tell you about a this morning, packages of frozen vegetables sold at walmart and kroger stores in the southeast may contain glass fragments. no reports of injuries but the tennessee company that supplies the vegetables says consumers

should return them for a refund. a couple shares a hug, a kiss, and holding hands, and that gets them kicked out of a shopping mall. not just any couple, though. this was a lesbian couple. at least that's what the mall says they were not just any couple. this incident took place wednesday in raleigh, north carolina. yesterday the managers of that mall apologized to the women. the case could now be headed to court. we get the story from affiliate wral. >> it bothers me that it's 2010 and i have to be here. >> reporter: caitlin breedlove was here, sitting on this bench. she and her significant other had been holding hands, and walking around the cameron village shopping center. that's when breedlove says a security officer walked up and had this to say. >> "you have to leave because your behavior is inappropriate." >> reporter: she admits she was showing affection but breedlove claims it was nothing more than a kiss and a hug. according to her the officer was upset her significant other was another woman. >> it's base you're same-sex and

it's inappropriate behavior and "nobody wants to see that here at cameron village." >> reporter: the officer had not received complaints from other people and the public display of affection was minimal. >> a couple people would ask did you plan this in. >> reporter: breedlove works for a social justice group and is a gay activist. however, she says the confrontation was not a stunt. >> we really just don't discriminate at all. we love everybody that loves our food. >> reporter: dan palatucci is the manager of the restaurant where the couple had been eating. he brau the concern to cameron village management. he feels they're working to get to the bottom of it. >> i know that cameron village as a whole isn't taking it lightly and are aware of it, but they're trying to get information about the incident. >> reporter: and now it appears the aclu is getting involved. they say they are appalled at what happened and are now looking into possible legal recourse. >> caitlin you heard from there actually said they didn't have any plan to file a lawsuit, just really wanted an apology which

they did get and wants anti-discrimination training for the security guards at that shopping mall. trapped 69 days in an underground mine in chile, so how did the 33 miners stay strong and endure that long ordeal in. >> some will tell you it was their faith. we're taking a look at the power of faith, coming up at 36 minutes past the hour. cure. with your help, we've donated $25 million over 12 years. so let's continue to make a difference one lid at a time. i'm a teenage girl. [ cellphone beeps ] my bff becky texts and says she's kissed johnny. well, that's a problem 'cause i like johnny. now i'm emotionally compromised, and... woopsies! [ tires screech ] i'm all omg. becky's not even hot. and if you've got cut-rate insurance, you could be payin' for this yourself. so get allstate. you could save money and be better protected from mayhem like me. [ tires screech ]

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our favorite part of the show is right now. that's when we get to talk to candy crowley coming up on "state of the union" here in about 22 minutes. today she'll be talking about money and politics. >> candy is joining us live from washington. good morning, candy. >> good morning. he's such a sweet talker, kate. >> he is such a sweet talker. it's hard to deal with him sometimes. >> years of training, candy, years of training. >> so candy you've got david axelrod on. he made quite, he got a lot of attention let's say this week talking about anonymous donors and the idea of foreign money

being funneled through the u.s. chamber of commerce in terms of campaigns and ads. some say they think this is what david axelrod has been saying about anonymous money is turning into a bit of a distraction from the bigger issues like the economy and jobs. >> well, and maybe that's the point. i mean, you know, politics has many layers here. and frankly axelrod is really only reflecting what his boss the president is saying on the campaign trail. they backed up just a bit and don't outright say foreign money is going into these campaigns, in particular talking about the chamber of commerce, which does take in dues from foreign companies with sort of american affiliations from american citizens. the problem here is that since the chamber of commerce doesn't have to release its donors that help fund its ads the president and the rest of the administration, many democrats have said look as far as we know, foreign money could be flowing into these ad campaigns that you're seeing all over the place.

so you know, it is an issue, the democrats say it is something they want to put out there, but here answer the criticism, from some democrats as well, saying this issue has like zero resonance with the american voting public, because a they don't understand it and b, they're really worried about their own money, not the money going into these ads or what the chamber of commerce is doing. nonetheless, as you know, some of these issues that are out there, sort of the landmark legislation that the president has passed hasn't played that well in some areas of the country, and so some of these democrats are looking and saying, this just isn't what we ought to be talking about but others are saying listen, this has some resonance because it goes to that whole big money party. that's what the republicans are, trying to buy your vote that kind of thing. i guess we'll know after november whether there's been any cause and effect here between this talk about politics and money, and what happens at the voting booth. >> well we got to take off but give us your rundown, coming up in a few minutes. >> david axelrod, and gary bauer

on, he is affiliated with one of those groups that doesn't have to disclose where the money came from for their ads, and then we're going to look at the politics of it with "time" magazine's mike duffy as well as the shear numbers, $3 billion overall being spent on television ads this campaign season, with evan tracy, who is an ad analyst. >> it is fascinating how much money is going into the election. >> we'll keep the airwaves warm. >> you always do. >> see new 18 minutes, "state of the union" with candy crowley coming your way 9:00 a.m. eastern, 6:00 pacific right here on cnn.

43 minutes past the hour now. we all heard the cheering from those chilean miners as they were pulled up from nearly half a mile beneath the earth. take a listen to it one more time. >> chi-le! chi-chi-chi-! le-le-le! los mineros de chile! >> that was one of the first miners stop and said a prayer when he got out. many of the men relied on their faith to get them through the more than two-month ordeal. some dropped to their knees, prayed after the rescue. one says it's a miracle from god that they were able to survive and see their loved ones again. >> translator: i never had any doubts about how beautiful chile is. i always had faith in the professionals of chile. i never had any doubts, and as to faith, i always faith in the great creator. i had great luck. i was with god, and i was with

the devil, but god won. i held on to god's hand, the best hand, and at no point in time, how do i explain this, at no point in time did i doubt that god wouldn't get me out of there. god doesn't carry out tests with anyone, no. >> we've asked two people who were inspired by their faith to join us this morning. one is a woman who survived genocide in rwanda, joins us author of the book "led by faith," joining us this morning from new york, also dr. joy is with us, she used her faith to overcome the loss of her son, you may know her as dr. joy on her radio program, they have both joined us this morning. ladies, thank you both for being here. amakili i want to start with you, you dealt with genocide in rwanda back in 1994, essentially for three months had to hide out and depended on your faith. you prayed, i read, essentially for three months straight every

single day. what did prayer do for you every day? >> oh, prayer did everything for me. i was in that bathroom with eight women, trapped in three-by-four feet bathroom. every single day they were coming to search for us and they never found us. every day we were wait so long we were angry, fearful, and then through prayer, it was only time you can feel there was hope. i remember a time where i had to eat the bible, read one thing and disappear, just disappear in the words of god, yeah. >> was the prayer in some ways, you're holding on to faith and hoping for a better outcome or better predicament than you were in. did it serve in some ways as a distraction to get your mind to a different place? >> oh, completely. any time i prayed, i felt it was only time i had peace in my heart. otherwise, the voice they are talking about, it was there always telling me, you're going

to die. they will find you. even if they don't find you yesterday, they will find you tomorrow, and then that causes you so much fear. then there is another beautiful voice, especially when you start praying that tells you, god is almighty. can he do all things, and that will transcend everything. >> immaculee fascinating to hear from her. dr. joy, you turned to faith dealing with the loss of your son that died suddenly unexpectedly in an accident. >> right. >> how important is faith? could you have made it through the healing process without faith? >> i wouldn't want to make it through without my faith. i've always had a strong faith and have compassion for people who don't because i can't imagine moving on with life without it. >> that was going to be my next question. plenty of people aren't religious. people find religion as some would say but someone who is not religious, what would you say to

them in dealing with a difficult time god forbid if they have to go through something like you did? >> we can define faith in a loft different ways. there's many faith traditions with traditions that people have but to believe in something bigger than yourself. some people find faith walking in a park. some people, buddha under a tree. we just need to, there is something greater that keeps us going than just our own will, and i was able to be carried, if you will, through my grieving process, and my calling now is to help others move toward wholeness, to live the best life that they can live, demean tragedies, even when we lose people. >> immaculee, you and the rest of the world watched the miners, tramd down there, a different circumstance but in some ways similar, you're trapped, don't know what's going to happen to you, you're holding on for hope that you'll get out of sag life. did you see some parallels as well as you watched the story of the mines in chile?

>> oh, definitely. you know, i wish we knew we were going to be in the bathroom for three months. we didn't know if it was going to be a year, two years, and when i was watching them, i knew in their mind, they were hoping for the best but they don't know when is it going to end, today, tomorrow, five months from now? and that is a scary thing, and i thought about exactly what i was going through in the bathroom, there must be so many voices in their mind, one reassuring them the worst and the other one telling them maybe there can be good. it was a lot of parallels for sure. you just know your life is in the hands of god. >> and dr. joy, you really have no control over your circumstances >> that's right. >> but all you have is your mind that you can control, and it seems like you're almost, you're almost playing games with yourself trying to keep yourself sane. >> for me the situation sis any situation in life, the loss of a

child, the loss of a job, loss of a loved one, being confined for 90 days, any situation you can view as a burden or an opportunity. burden or opportunity. you get to choose within yourself. you get to choose how will i carry this. and there is a way to get to opportunity and there are so many people who have lost loved ones who turn that situation into a calling to help others, and by helping others you really help yourself. >> last thing to both of you ladies here, a lot of people, whatever they may be going through in life, you ladies have been through more than anyone would ever imagine to go through, immaculee, certainly you, genocide no roman da, dr. joy losing a child. folks having a hard time, whether it is their job, home life, this economy, about to lose their home, whatever it may be, what advice would you give them as someone who has gone through so much trauma? >> i would tell them hold on to hope, there is always hope. i went through that time and i came out, my whole family was killed, everybody.

the same even just going through that grief, it was always what voice to listen to, the one that tells you it's over, give up, kill yourself, or the one that says wait, light will come. if you can only believe in that inspiration, because we have both in our own heart, it will be fine in the end, no matter what your he going through today. >> that's right. >> dr. joy, wrap it up for us? >> surrender is important and forgiveness for yourself, because you toned blame yourself for being in situations you find yourself in. i think if you just surrender what is, and then forgive yourself and others and you can get through anything. >> dr. joy, immaculee, who ladies who have been through a lot we appreciate your stories and your sharing of advice for a lot of people having a hard time in different ways. thank you for being a part of our "faces of faith" this morning. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. quick break we're right back. [ male announcer ] opportunity

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