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>> some guys did know how old i was and they liked that. >> which city is a hub for child prostitution. are your neighbors harboring illegal workers? all that next on "larry king live." good evening, governor schwarzenegger of california formally signed a bill today that requires retailers and manufacturers who do business in the state to publicly disclose their efforts on human trafficking from their supply chains. joining us to talk about this issue that affects us all are julia ormond, actress and activist, president of the alliance to stop slavery and end trafficking. ben skinner, the senior fellow at the schuster institute at brandice university.

he's author of a crime so monstrous, face-to-face with modern day slavery. he's the first person known to have witnessed the sale of human beings on four continents. and mira sorvino, academy award winning activist and actress, a u.n. ambassador for the u.s. office on drugs and trafficking. the odt. julia, explain this to me, when we hear slavery, we're thinking about 1860 and abraham? >> slavery is more prevalent now than ever in our history. i define slavery as one person that will completely exploits another person. trafficking is the act of enslaving someone. >> it occurs everywhere? >> there are two countries it hasn't been found in, greenland and iceland.

yes, this is absolutely everywhere. >> how did you get involved? >> i got involved -- i was invited by the u.n. to become a goodwill ambassador, they were generous and allowed me to spend a good year going around the world meeting with victims, going to find success stories, really. people who found great solutions and were working on those. i stayed involved because of meeting the victims and hearing their stories. >> mira sorvino, how did you get involved? >> i was originally amnesty international ambassador for several years. under that canopy of abuse to women was the subject of human trafficking, and right as we were starting to explore and do events about it, and give speeches about it, i was offered the film "human trafficking" and i decided to take it on because it was a way to marry my activist and artistic interests.

>> you are both? >> and i became very, very passionate about this particular cause. so afterwards, the u.n. asked me to become their good will ambassador. >> ben, why do we call it human trafficking, as opposed to what? >> as opposed so drug trafficking, organ trafficking. as opposed to arms trafficking. today if we're talking about the best estimates that we have, there are organized criminal cindy cats that make more money from human trafficking than illegal arms trafficking. human beings are the second most lucrative commodity after drugs. >> who are these syndicates. >> put the idea out of your head that these are vast mafias. in some cases, in the case of some of the mexican cartels operating out of juarez, there's

overlap between drug traffickers and human traffickers. generally speaking these are few small operations, a few people operating to recruit, to transport and to harbor people in forced labor. this is slavery. >> what kind of people in the united states are doing this? can you pinpoint the type of criminal? >> the type of criminal is somebody who basically understands that the risk for prosecution historically has been very low and the rewards over the long term are very, very high. in south africa, for example, i was -- i went undercover tore infiltrate a nigerian human trafficking syndicate. these were people who were initially trafficking in crack/cocaine, but the risk for prosecution was very high for that. the risk for trafficking in 15-year-old girls was negligible. >> why? >> because police in south africa are -- don't enforce the laws against human trafficking.

there is no standalone law against human trafficking in south africa. these are volatile commodities, but they're not commodities that are inexpensive. >> the u.s. office -- the office you work with, estimates that 12.3 million people are enslaved around the world. and that's a low estimate, right? >> that's a low estimate, yes. >> how does it work? how do they get someone in the united states to be a slave, what do they do? >> well, i think people -- either it is somebody who is an internal trafficking victim, a story very much untold. there's a profile on sex trafficking, kids who are vulnerable, runaway use, hook up with a boyfriend. average age to become a prostitute in the u.s. is 13. there's a strong profile in child prostitution. or agricultural workers, perhaps they're undocumented workers who

are in a vulnerable circumstance. people who have been smuggled across the border and instead of releasing them, sells them to a trafficker, their passports are taken away, put to work in agricultural work, domestic servitude, something like that. >> what does a slave bring? what do you get if you're selling someone to someone, for what? >> it depends on what you're selling them for, and how many times a day you're selling them. if you're selling a sexual worker, the profit margin can be enormous, because you sell their services 10, 20, 30 times a day. if you want to sell them to another trafficker, you can do that too. i think you would probably have the figures on what -- what is a migrant worker go for? >> well, it used to be in the transatlantic slave trade, you could buy a young male agricultural worker for about $40,000 in today's money. you can buy that same worker on

american soil for $300 today. >> men and women are sold? >> yes, this is men, women and children. this is very much a human issue. and that's one of the reasons why human trafficking and the selling of children has really taken off. you can continue to make the profit from human beings work where as once you've sold drugs they're gone. >> we'll be back with more. the national human trafficking resources center, which is operated by the polaris project has a hotline, 1-888-373-7888. it operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. it's nonprofit and nongovernmental. you want to find out more about what's going on right here in america, prepare to be shocked, dan rather joins us next. ♪ every day you check the weather, check the time ♪ ♪ check the news online

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dan rather is the award-winning journalist. the anchor of hd net's dan rather reports. his report on child sex trafficking earlier this year, portland, oregon is beyond shocking. here's a clip, watch. >> it is an out of control problem, it is unbelievable. i've only done this job three years in the vice.

i've been a cop for 29. if you had told me three years ago, that a 14-year-old girl would go to a food court, meet a guy and three hours later be selling herself i would have say no way. it happens every day. an average pimp with one kid will make between 800 and 1,000 dollars a day seven days a week. 30 days in a month. >> and not much overhead? >> no overhead. you get a cheap hotel for 50 bucks a night. a bottle of booze. you take her to taco bell, mcdonald's, cheap food, that's it. >> how did you come across this story? >> we're always looking for good investigative stories. we went to moldova to do a story about the international trafficking in kidneys. and moldova it was very obvious that this sex trade traffic,

particularly concentrating on young girls and in some cases boys was heavy. i came back home intending to do a story on international sex trafficking. what i found out very quickly, it's a big problem in this country. i know a lot of people are shaking their heads saying, i don't believe that. the fbi estimates, in excess of 100,000 american girls, american girls are involved in some form of the sex slavery trafficking business today. we look around, we found portland, oregon at that time, i think it may still be true, had the highest percentage of underaged girls involving -- involved in prostitution on a population basis anywhere in the country. we went to portland, oregon, we met some heroic cops out there, megan duquesne and the man you just saw, doug justice are heros from my standpoint. they explain to us that this is an american problem. a lot of people think, well, it must be immigrants or people

brought into the country. they -- the estimate of 100,000 or more, which i think is low, there are estimates as many as 300,000 underaged girls and some boys in this country involved in under age prostitution. this shocked me beyond belief. i didn't believe it. it turns out it's true. >> do these girls go back to their homes at night? are they kept as slaves? how does that work? >> no, how it works, and ben touched on it earlier. this is very organized now, a lot of people that were in the drug trade have found out this is more lucrative and less chance of going to prison. they look for a young girl they think looks vulnerable, fits their profile, they'll send a 19-year-old young man out to sweet talk her a little bit. first they recruit the girl, then they break the girl, and then they maintain the girl. usually the girl will move out. i know there's a myth out there

that most of these underaged girls who are in prostitution are runaways. that's not true. you're talking about the girl next door, suburban areas are ripe with this kind of thing. many people listening will say i think rather must be overreacting to this, or overestimating it. not true. this is a national problem here in the united states. and the way it works, these organized gangs. they usually are fairly small, they recruit these girls, they get her involved with this young man, she moves out, moves in with him. the next thing you know, he's getting her to sleep with his friend. after that, once she's done that, she's a prostitute and she can't go back, and that's the way it works. >> we'll be back with more with the entire panel, dan rather will remain with us in this unbelievable story. statistics about the shadowy business of human trafficking are hard to pin down due to the fact they're not reported in many cases.

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not bringing back enough, for talking about. you're always supposed to bring back more than 100. i was at least, i don't know about other girls. >> between me and my boyfriend at the time, there was a lot of violence. i had black eyes, he used to choke me all the time. i would have never thought i would have been in this situation. i would have never thought i would have sold myself for any other person. i would have never thought that i would have let myself be treated as badly as i was being treated by him. >> ben skinner, you were offered a slave? >> on four continents i was witness to the sale of human beings. >> how does it work? >> let's say we're in brooklyn, new york, where i was living at the time. some eight hours from there, in port-au-prince, haiti. i pulled up in an suv, rolled down a window. there were four men standing in front of a barber shop.

everyone in the neighborhood knows what these men do. they're brokers. one of them came over and said, do you want to get a person? over the course of some two hours, again, broad daylight, i told this fellow i was a reporter, i wasn't under cover for this. i was offered a young girl, 12 years old for domestic slavery. and the -- >> to stay with you? >> to stay with me, to work in my house, to cook, to clean. according to the last study done on this, prior to the earthquake, there were some 300,000 children in haiti in this form of domestic slavery, and at some point the trafficker leaned in and said, this is rather a delicate question, but would you want this child as a partner? sexual slavery is part and parcel of these children's bondage. >> larry: why don't these girls scream and run? >> i think part of it is that

they -- initially there's a lot of coercion in terms of getting somebody into that situation. and then they -- they become very bonded in terms of believing that they are dependent on their trafficker. and that is something that the trafficker will move toward. >> larry: i understand that, but what about after they're sold? the trafficker they're bonded with but what about the guy they sell them too? >> in almost any kind of trafficking situations, if it's a female trafficking victim that person will be a victim of rape. they are constantly kept under the threat of physical harm to themselves, the threat -- very definite threat to their family. they know these girls and boys, whomever they may be, all they have to hope for and dream for is that their family is safe somewhere, that they're helping their family in some way, and so they have a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, they

stay in their trafficking situations to protect their families because as one victim said to me here in the states. she said, it was all i had left to give. i knew i was keeping my family safe by staying there, by not running away. i knew if i ran away, he told me he would kill them. >> here's a conversation with a pimp, watch. >> i'm going to tell you something, if you pay the price, can you get what you want. i can get it for you. >> really? >> now, if you want something really young, that $200 that will cost a little more than that. >> sure, sure. >> how young -- >> okay, i don't have nothing younger than 14. >> 14's good. >> you'll have to add something to that. >> sure, sure. >> larry: there's no other way to describe this but shocking, right? how did you feel as a reporter? >> i was shocked, i was outraged. in the beginning i was skeptical thinking, this problem can't be

as broad as the police say it is. but it is, indeed. i think the point we may have missed here, that the premium is on very young girls, cases where 80, 83, 85-year-old men will pay a real premium, $500, $1,000 for a girl who's 11. yes, 11 years old or 12 years old. we don't make this up. these are real cases that are happening in our country and by and large, they're happening to -- not to immigrants who come into the country but to american girls in some cases, boys here. >> the average cost of buying a slave is $90, according to freetheslaves.net. more on what you need to know after the break. [ female announcer ] introducing caramel starbucks via flavored instant coffee. with 100% natural roasted arabica beans and natural caramel flavor. a lot goes into the instant it takes

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>> larry: hundreds of thousands of young girls in america, right now being held in bondage. who is the buyer. >> the buyer is the most difficult person to study in all of this. i went undercover to talk to traffickers. talking to buyers is a difficult question. i think on a day when we are celebrating a small victory in the 5,000-year-old fight, it's important to say very definitively, we are all the buyers. and julia very effectively with

the governor today said the slavery that bothers me most is what takes place in our own. slavery touches the product that we buy. >> explain. >> in my travels around the world, i went to see solutions. so i looked at slavery that was going on in agriculture and mining, and having gotten engaged on the issue because it was horrified by the sex trafficking, i am equally horrified by what happens in terms of forced labor, trafficking and slavery around the world. so because the supply chain today is extremely complicated, there is a great deal of agricultural and mining slavery, which means that the products we buy, whether it's our t-shirts, cell phones or computers or cars or our brake pads or sheets or coffee or cocoa or so many of the products that are in my home, they're tainted by slavery. >> what does this bill say? >> what the bill requires is

that major retailers and companies who trade in california have to go public with their policy on trafficking and forced labor. >> larry: who's in favor of it? >> nobody in's favor of it, but what i have seen over the years of working on this, is that it takes a great deal of work to bring somebody to the point of being open hearted enough to be able to see it. i know i've done that myself. i've seen fishing slavery, i'm like, i know you're telling me, i'm looking at slavery. but what am i looking for? the ngo will then take you through, look at the boy on the left who's small, clearly about 12 years old, but built like a man because he's done five years hard labor. once you've been educated on it, you can see it. the supply chain is a direct route and map to the places where slavery and trafficking latch on to the supply chain. >> larry: it's probable that

someone brought a product today in a store that was made or involved in the making by a slave? >> yes, well i was sort of horrified to learn recently that a lot of the pig iron that is mine ed in south america is used in our bathtubs. you know, some of the largest bathtub makers use pig iron that's smelted in slave mine areas. >> you're taking a bath in a product that was -- >> does the manufacturer know that? >> i would think they probably know that. at a certain point if they are -- it's just like the oil spill. you know, at a certain point someone along the chain knows it. whether they've made it a priority, is another question. >> if they don't know it, they should know it, and consumers should know it. this bill empowers consumers. just before we came on air, i spoke with congresswoman

maloney's office, she's planning a federal piece of legislation that mirrors this, that gives consumers the tools to decide not to buy slave made products. >> i think one of the things i've seen, it's a little more complicated than that. it's a function of the company saying, we don't control it. and what we have said with the bill is, okay, some of you say you don't control it, some of you are prepared to use your influence, we want to engage the consumer by disclosing the policy that the companies have, i believe the consumer will say, i want to buy the product of the company that's doing the right thing and growing best practices. >> let's take a look at another clip from dan rather reports on porn land, oregon. two girls caught up in the sex trade talking about the demand for under aged prostitutes. >> some guys are creepy. some guys d actually know how old i was and they liked that. >> i used to lie and say i was

18, because i know that some of them would get freaked out. so i would lie and say i was 18. some of them, you know, i just kind of get the vibe off of them, so i'd let them know my real age. one time i let this guy know my real age, yeah, i'm 16. he said, oh, well you're not young enough, you need to get out. i was like -- i was so desperate for money at the time that i said, well, i can put my hair in pig tails. i can make myself look younger. and he didn't want it. he wanted -- he told me he was looking for an 11 or 12-year-old. >> according to the polaris project, $32 billion in profits are generated from the human trafficking industry. we're going to hear from a former teenaged sex slave and survivor next. ♪

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>> larry: "parker/spitzer" airs at 8:00 p.m. eastern right before this show. their guest tonight fred davis, watch it a little. >> is there anyway that barack obama can change the narrative in the next two weeks? >> on the path he's on now, i don't think so, elliott. you've watched what i watched. i watched him on television last night. i -- there's an ad we did called morning in america that i think fits what america is thinking right now. nobody hates barack obama. i don't hate barack obama. i think he's -- he got off on

the wrong track. i think he overreached, i think he -- thought he had a mandate that really wasn't there. or missed the bigness of what was wrong with our economy. but he's out there still blaming george w. bush. >> well, and attacking boehner. >> major league spending. attacking boehner. he's doing things that i thought were kind of pitiful. >> larry: back with our topic, amanda was a teenaged runaway forced into prostitution at age 15, escaped the sex trade at age 23. she considers herself a survivor and not a victim. how did you wind up on the streets, amanda? >> hi, larry. when i was very young my mother gave me away and i wound up in foster homes and adopted two times. the last home i was placed in, the father in the home was sexually abusive. when i got the courage to run away i did, i was 15. and the place that i ran away to

was very cold. i would take city buses just to stay warm, and eventually i knew i was going to have to do something else. i went into a bar one time to warm up, just in the doorway. this man and woman were there, and she was a few months pregnant. they said i could come and stay with them. within a few days they told me what i needed to do to pay for my accommodation there. and i really didn't know anything about prostitution, all i knew was that mary madalene had been a prostitute. it was extremely surreal when it happened. >> who were the men who were buying your services? >> you know, that's something i really want people to pay attention to. it's the people we respect in our society, which is what makes it really hard to get out of it, you know, it's the lawyers, the doctors, social workers, the colleges, police, priests. yeah, it's -- >> larry: priests?

>> it's not the people that you think it is. >> larry: were you threatened? were you harmed? >> of course, of course. i mean, by multiple people, by the people that were controlling me, but also by people that would drive down the street and throw pennines at us. a girlfriend of mine is missing part of her ear because someone threw a beer bottle at her. it's not just the pimps, it's society too. >> larry: how did you get out? >> it was really really hard. i had a really bad date that lasted three days, and they figured i was dead. after i escaped that i knew i had to get out. i heard about an organization that consisted predominantly of women that had been there before. i couldn't believe that there were women that not only escaped but they came back and helped others get out. i went through a series of exiting programs, i went to therapy, i did a lot of work on myself in order to get out.

i really -- if there wasn't that organization that had survivors working there, i don't think i ever would have gotten out. i think it's really important that people work side by side with us. >> larry: if you're up in vancouver, go to a place called yogi berry. it's an eatery, and owned by amanda. you help her, you help a lot of other people too. dan, what's your reaction to her story? is that comparable to what you found in portland? >> absolutely comparable. that corridor from vancouver down to los angeles is perhaps the worst in the country. there are others that are very bad. this young woman's story is typical of what we heard. off of that vancouver, seattle, portland, san francisco los

angeles sort of freeway for underaged prostitution, sometimes often times they take underaged girls to las vegas for conventions. what the young woman said you'd be surprised who my customers were, doctors, lawyers, psychologists, right on down the line. sometimes at these conventions in las vegas, arrangements were made to bring underaged girls, 12, 13, 14 years old, to the conventions, the pimps and organized gangs take them there, make a tremendous amount of money just over the weekend. >> wow! thank you, amanda. the highest risk for kids being trafficked is endangered runaways. as we go to break, you'll see pictures of runaways provided by their families provided to the center for missing and exploited children. we don't have specific evidence that these kids are being trafficked but if you have any information about them, call 1-800-the-lost. we'll get a parents'

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the preliminary test results show asphyxiation as the cause of death. >> shania's kidnapper is the one that killed her. >> the police department will be filing the following charges, first degree murder, first degree rape of a child. >> mcneil was the last to see her alive based on these surveillance pictures taken at the comfort inn in sanford. and the charges may not be the end of this case. >> larry: bradley lockhart's 5-year-old daughter was raped and murdered last november. shania's mother is accused of prostituting the child. she's charged with human trafficking and felony child abuse. what's the legal situation regarding shania's mother right now, bradley? >> currently she's out on bail. there is no court date presently

set at this time as far as her to go back in front of the judge. they usually throw her up in front of the judge about every 30 to 60 days, i guess it's just a formality. as of right now, no court dates have been set for antoinette. >> larry: did you have a casual relationship with this woman? >> it was a very, very short term relationship with antoinette and the conception of shania. after that it was an open relationship and the care of shania, her feeling it was best that she live with me, and that's the way it played out until 30 days prior to shania's passing. >> larry: and how did the mother manage to get her away from you and into the hands of these people? >> well, basically i travelled for my job, and shania was at my sister's house and shania was asking for her mother. my sister called antoinette and asked if she could spend the weekend with her. my sister dropped her off at antoinette's grandmother's house, because antoinette was

apparently at work. while antoinette had her for that weekend she decided she wanted to -- after four years she decided she want to try to play her role as a mother, and tried to take care of her and raise her like a mother should and protect her like a mother should. then 30 days later, my worst nightmare became a reality. >> larry: did you know anything about human trafficking before this? >> i had no clue about human trafficking. looking back on it, if you would have asked me would i have ever thought of it or became a victim of it? i would have never thought in my wildest dreams that i would be sitting here talking to you as a victim of human trafficking and being exposed to it at this level. it is so overwhelming, it's happening every day, it's happening in our -- right in our local communities, and we're turning a blind eye to it.

>> larry: how are you holding up? >> we struggle. we struggle. we have our moments as a family, we're still grieving as many as others still grieve. i get letters and e-mails all the time, with concerns and care and love for shania. we all know that she's up in heaven looking down on us smiling. and encouraging us to stay strong and be her voice and speak loud and clear as we're going to do here on november 13th in piedmont park in atlanta. we're going to hold shania davis first annual 5k walk. >> larry: thank you, bradley. according to freetheslaves.net slave holders use terms such as bonded labor and attached labor to avoid use of the word slave. we'll be back with a garment worker who was enslaved while working in this country. ♪

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>> yes, i do. but it's yours to find. no one can take it away from you. not one man, not 100. >> larry: that was a scene from the tv miniseries "human trafficking" starring mira sorvino. she was nominated for an emmy for her performance. joining us is florencia molina, a survivor of human trafficking. >> larry: she was enslaved in the garment industry in the united states. we'll be back with her and our panel. let's check in with anderson cooper hosting "ac 360" at the top of the hour. two weeks until election night, it got so bad between jack conway and rand paul they refused to shake hands and that's before the two sides unleashed negative campaign ads. in "crime and punishment," steven hayes convicted of the

home invasion killing of a mom and her two daughters he's back in court, lawyers trying to convince a jury to spare his life. what could save him from the death penalty? the courtroom drama ahead. thanks, anderson cooper, at 10:00 eastern. larry: flora molina. she was enslaved in a dressmaking shop in l.a. how? >> i was brought to the united states with promise to have a good job. and i was promised to make money to send money to send to my family. i was a target for the trafficker because i was a mother who had -- i couldn't take care to a hospital and she passed away. i was worried about my other three children because i was working two jobs. i was cooking and cleaning houses and i didn't make enough money to support my children.

and at the time i was taking sowing classes. one of the days my sewing teacher offered me an opportunity to go to the united states. when i get there, i will have a place to stay and work. when i got to l.a., i was locked inside a shop. i was not allowed to go out to speak to anybody. and i had work 17 to 18 hours a day, seven days a week and i was not allowed to go out or to speak to anybody. my trafficker is from the same town where i am from so she knew my family and she often written me of harming my family. i was already there and i was really fearful for my children and my mother. i escaped and -- after i meet them, they helped me to find a shelter and to get on my feet. >> larry: we'll pick up with more.

we're short on time. we have heroes on our show and we're honors another one right now. each week we ask friends of cnn heroes to tell us more about the top ten honorees. here's a hollywood actress, doing terrific work on-screen and off. >> i'm eva mendez. last year i had the honor of helping to recognize the great works of every-day people changing the world at cnn heroes and all-star tribute. as a champion of the arts, i'm committed to creating joys in the lives of hospitalized children. now i'm thrilled to help cnn introduce one of this year's top ten honorees. now more than ever the world needs heroes. >> this wasn't a very nice place and now nobody can go out. this moment of crisis, people have to have a secure place

where healing goes on. my name is guadalupe. i started the hospital de la familial. we have been working there for 37 years with the community. every day we have from 800 to 1,000 people. some of them can pay. some of them cannot pay. but we don't turn anybody away. i believe that health is the most important of human rights. life is all about empowering people and it's very important to have an institution giving them hope for the future. >> larry: to see all top ten cnn heroes and vote, go to cnn.com. right now, there's a nurse saving a life in baltimore.

20 minutes later, she'll bring one into the world in seattle. later today, she'll help an accident victim in kansas. how can one nurse be in all these places? through the nurses she taught in this place. johnson & johnson knows, behind every nurse who touches a life... there's a nurse educator... who first touched them. ♪ you're a nurse ♪ you make a difference a body at rest tends to stay at rest...

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but the first thing that's rare is we heard about it. the vast majority of slaves in the world we don't know about. >> larry: she's a brave lady. >> harriet tubman, frederick douglass and now we'll add flora molina to that list. they stand up and demand their humanity on behalf of all of us. >> and she helps other victims become survivors and she educates law enforcement to try to notice better the signs of trafficking. i worked with her before and she's an amazing human being. >> larry: what happened to the shop owner? >> she was charged as abusive employer because my case was -- the year of protection was past so in early 2002 it was not a lot of information about it so she payed a $75,000 fine and she was free. she got only a light sentence. six months of house arrest. when she finished her sentence she went and visit my mother to

give minor, $20 for my mother to call her as soon as my mother finds out where i was. since then she contacted my family several times. she's from the same town where i am from. >> do you forgive her? >> i can forgive her because she has done it to other people, not only to me, but i'm the only one who stands and fight back. >> larry: an incredible story. i know search telling us how much she's responsible for this law, right? >> well, i wouldn't say that. nothing happens alone. we've been able to join the journey that's been a long time coming but i want to talk of one success story if i may. >> we have about 40 seconds. >> fair trade works with main go farmers in haiti, the mango farmers sell whole foods. president clinton has said the mango selling of haiti could be its direct path out and that