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contestants. the fighting beyond the spotlight. tom and brooke tell us what they think of the competition so far. "dancing with the stars" next on larry king live. >> larry: season 11 of "dancing with the stars." actress jennifer grey, bristol palin, the grammy winning singer brandy and actor kyle massey, youngest of the year. let's look back at what got the contestants where they are today. ♪ >> i love the taste of brandy in the evening. after this, i could have more and more and more. ♪ that ain't the way to have

fun ♪ ♪ that ain't the way to have fun, son ♪ >> i see a future for you. ♪ >> it's like a sexy, hot, energizing bionic bunny dancing. ♪ >> that was by far the most fun i have had as a viewer, as a judge. >> larry: as we say in college basketball, the final four. jennifer, you surprised you made it this far? >> i'm grateful and glad i'm chugging along. >> bristol, why did you say yes to doing this? >> because i knew people were going to talk about me no matter what. >> larry: brandy, are you surprised at how far you have

gotten? >> i am surprised. >> larry: you're not known as a dancer. >> i'm thankful i'm here. >> larry: kyle were you surprised to be asked? >> i'm surprised about everything. surprised i made it this far. surprised on on the show. it's one of the most memorable experiences of my life. >> larry: how difficult is it, the work leading up to it. >> it's gruelling. it's relentless and beyond fun. it may be the funnest thing i have ever done. >> larry: even though it's all of what you said before? >> yeah. you are challenged and learning to do something you have never done before and learning to do it fast. >> larry: people saw you dance in a famous movie. >> live is different. a different dance every week and a famous dancer, this protomake

you good. what about that. it's good. >> larry: what's it been like for you bristol? >> such an awesome experience. i never danced in my life. i'm coming out of michelle. i'm blessed to be here and i'm having a good time. >> yeah, you are. >> larry: we are going to have everybody with their partners then the hosts will be with us, too. brandy, has it been tough? >> it has been, but exciting and inspiring. i'm learning to do something i have never done before. i love a challenge. this is the perfect show for that. >> larry: are you competitive, kyle? >> i am competitive. when ever you enter a situation, you never want to enter it doing it half way. you want to commit to it. if i'm going to dance on national television in front of half the world, i might as well commit to it. it's a blast. >> larry: the people voted off so far, kurt warner.

rick fox, margaret cho, the situation, david hasselhoff, michael bolton. were you surprised at any of them, jennifer? >> i have been surprised. every week, i have been surprised by who is sent home. every week, we never know. i'm always a little shocked. >> larry: what about you brandy? >> i was very shocked at rick fox. they were doing great and they did some of their best dances and they were voted off. i didn't understand that. i was disturbed by that. they were so good. >> larry: bristol were you surprised? >> i think we are all surprised every week. you can have such high scores and be voted off. >> larry: how competitive are you? >> i'm extremely competitive. for me, i have been lowest score since the beginning of the show. for me, it's going against

myself and working my hardest and improving for myself. >> larry: do you think the public likes you more than the judges? obviously? >> yeah, obviously. >> larry: kyle. >> yes, sir. >> larry: anyone you are surprised about getting voted off? >> being on the show for eight weeks now, each week, we grow a bond closer to each other. we share the same building and the same everything. >> larry: you made friends out of this? >> yeah, it sucks to see people go. it's normal for the show to be unpredictable. normal for it to be unpredictable. >> larry: one never knows when you do live television. >> never know. never know. >> larry: jennifer, when you say it's competitive, are you rooting for people to get tossed? you must be. >> actually, all of my attention goes to doing my best. i don't really have an ounce of

extra energy to put toward anyone else's destiny. i'm trying to do my best. >> is it rough when the judges rap you? >> when they -- >> larry: knock you? >> not for me. i have tough skin. sitting out there, i take what they are saying and use it to my next week's dance. >> larry: do you think coming from a political family helps? >> i think so. i have tough skin. >> larry: you have been involved in winning. in politics you win and lose. >> yeah, you win and lose. i'm thankful to be around. >> they criticize me. i take it and try to apply it to every dance i get a chance to do. >> larry: kyle you are unknockable. let's check in with the host of the show, tom. tom, tell us what's next. >> coming up, a friend of mine who william shatner believes to

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derek hough scored the highest marks on this season's show. here is a look at fancy footwork. watch. >> jennifer is unstoppable. she's hot, hot, hot. >> jennifer grey and her partner derek hough. >> this is prime time delight! ♪ >> larry: how is she doing, derek? >> she's doing great. unbelievable. it's a pleasure to work with her and, you know, it's been fantastic. she works so hard. she puts 110% into every rehearsal. we have been on a roller

coaster. it started out fantastic. we went through tough times. she's pushed through it. she found a second wind. >> larry: what's he like as teacher? >> because he's so gifted, it's hard for him to imagine not being gifted. he's very much a perfectionist. it makes him a great dancer and a great teacher. he's got eyes in the back of his head. he's got eyes on every part of my body with every move i make. don't you? >> larry: you dance for a living? >> yeah. i take pride in being able to teach someone and see them grow as a student and as a friend and a person. it's rewarding to do that. >> larry: maybe not surprising to see jennifer doing so well. we are going to show a scene from "dirty dancing."

here is jennifer with the late patrick swayze. ♪ i had the time of my life ♪ and i owe it all to you ♪ ♪ i been waiting for so long, now i finally found someone to stand by me ♪ >> larry: he was something, wasn't he? >> he was a very, very special guy. very gifted and special. >> larry: you saw the movie, didn't you, derek. >> absolutely. >> larry: did it make it tough to dance with her? >> i knew the movie was from a long time ago. the amount of dancing she did on the show was minimal. i was pleasantly surprised and pleased to see she has a sort

of -- it's in her body. her father is joe grey. i think that entertainment, that kind of dancing is in her body. she's got it in her. she's got the passion. it translates. >> larry: he came back at joel grey. who could forget. he's unbelievable. coming back to broadway, right? >> yeah. he'll be doing "anything goes" in new york. >> larry: how are your legs holding up? >> i'm still walking, aren't i? >> larry: the wear and tear. you rehearse every day, right? >> my body is experiencing sensations it's never had before. i feel like i'm pushing through and taking care of myself. i feel, i don't know, i feel

like this whole new excitement about the next couple of weeks. i feel like this pain is just a feeling, you know, just push through. it's almost over. let's make the most of it. >> it's cool seeing jennifer surprise herself every week. she's like i don't know if i can do this, then she goes out there and does it. that's what makes the whole experience rewarding. seeing this light go wow, i did it. >> larry: you will be back at the end. now, back to tom. who is next, thomas? >> i'm standing with two people. bristol palin improved remarkably week in and week out. the other, mark ballas who hasn't improved that much. but, he started out okay. they are coming up next. [ male announcer ] every day thousands of people are switching from tylenol to advil. to learn more and get your special offer, go to takeadvil.com. take action. take advil.

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>> larry: we're back with bristol palin and her partner, mark ballas. they have taken critical jabs from the judges. they keep on keeping on. here is a look at their team work. >> now, the pistol. bristol palin.

bristol, i have to say has guts. >> i have a confession. i thought you were going to come out and be boring. i was so wrong. ♪ >> larry: has she gotten better week in and week out? >> absolutely. if you watch the first tape to last week, i think it's a miracle. you have come so far. on the first day, she had no idea how to count. had zero, zero dance experience. >> larry: did you say hopeless? >> i would say so. on the first day, i was like we have to knuckle down. this has been one of my favorite seasons to take a true beginning. >> larry: what's he been like

with you? >> i remember walking in saying i hope you have a lot of patience. she's taken me out of michelle and given me extra confidence to go in and perform. >> larry: how do you deal with the rumors? >> every season everybody likes to say something is going on. >> larry: it was in the new york papers almost every other day. >> interesting. >> larry: no truth? >> no truth to that. >> larry: your mom was at the show. did it make you more nervous? >> our moms were sitting together. looking at them and seeing them cheer us on, it was great. >> larry: where is little tripp during this? >> he's in california with me. >> larry: that's terrific. has levi been supportive? >> i don't really hear from him. we're here to talk about

"dancing with the stars". >> larry: i'm not going to ask you who you are going to vote for. what was the toughest part getting her over the hurdles? >> the main challenge is having a fear and letting go. it's hard to capture in a 1:55 package how we are doing in rehearsal. >> larry: that's all it is? >> yeah, it's 1:55. in the later dances, it's showing. getting her personality to shine has been the challenge. it's happening now and we are glad to be here. >> larry: you keep overcoming what the judges say. do you think it's due to the palin name in addition to you getting better? >> i don't know. i think people see my rawness and vulnerability. i'm relatable and i don't have performance background or dancing background. i think people would step back and say that's how i would be. it's how i would feel and how i would perform.

i think i'm relatable in that fact. >> larry: did it take guts for her to do this? >> yeah. i think it's inspiring. for people to tune in and come home from jobs saying that's how i would be. i'm not a dancer. if i took part in the show, it's how i would be. they like to see that journey. >> larry: i know you miss home. >> yeah, i miss home. i miss being able to spend time with my family. i'm having a wonderful time here. i'm blessed to be on the show. we are going into week nine. it's an awesome experience. >> larry: do you get nervous every week. >> of course. >> i think i get more nervous. >> he gets nervous elimination day. >> larry: who picks the dances? >> when you get saved, they tell

you your dance. >> larry: what's yours next? >> we have two next week. >> larry: the slow walz will be easier to teach? >> it's a double-edged sword. because it's slow, you can pace yourself, but you have to be very controlled. it's a challenge. >> larry: vu started on it yet? >> not on the walz. one is intense and one is elegant and graceful. it's going to be interesting to see if i can juggle both of them. >> larry: are you enjoying the sexy part of this? >> i think it's what i struggle with the most. i'm not the type of person that's like, oh, look at me at all. but, i'm having so much fun. mark is helping me with just going out there and jumping into it and trying my hardest. >> larry: are you a professional dancer? >> yea. this is what i do for a living.

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been getting good scores all season and are getting better. check this out. ♪ >> brandy has all the ingredients to make a great dancer. she is one of the few contenders with the fire for the latin dances. ♪ ♪ >> larry: okay. maks chmerkovskiy, how is she doing? >> she's doing fantastic.

we started off slow. it was sure footed. everything was going well, according to to plan. the audience kept bringing us back. every week, she shows signs of improvement. we hit a strike a couple weeks ago and been up there ever since. >> larry: how good of a teacher is he? >> he's a great teacher. he's passionate. he's a champion on the inside. >> larry: you have to like him, right? for this to work. >> he's definitely a friend of mine. i think he believes in me and pushes me to be the best i can be. i want to thank him for that. >> larry: you are not a dancer? >> i'm not a dancer. >> larry: what was the toughest hurdle for you? >> connecting to my confidence and believing in myself. i think i was getting in my own way in the begin it was messing

me up. >> larry: how much of dancing is mental? >> most of it is mental. anybody can dance. it's not a, you know, it's not a secret. i'm in the business of making anybody dance. mentally, not everybody is up for a challenge. also, not everybody is strong enough to handle the schedule of the show. all the celebrities going far in this competition, it's a testment to strength and will power. >> larry: russians can be tough. is he tough? >> he's very tough, but a passionate tough. he believes in he. i need that. i don't want to slack off and i want to go as far as i can. >> larry: it is harter than you thought? >> yeah, absolutely. but, it's something i need to reawaken my strength. it's great. >> larry: what happened with you

and judge carrie ann? are you fighting? >> we're not fighting. we are both passionate about what we do. >> larry: you disagree with her? >> that's our job. i'm in the business of being judged and have been for 25 years. all the pros that come from a dance circuit know what it's like to have a 15-panel of judges and win a competition with seven marking you first and five marking you last. >> larry: it's subjective. >> it's very subjective. i don't undermine her opinion. i disagree with it. it's where we come back the next week and try to prove her wrong and do something she wants us to do. >> larry: you think she's fair? >> i think they are all fair in their own mind. >> larry: how do you take criticism? >> i take it well, i think. i try to apply what they say

every week for every dance i have been able to do. it's been working out for me. >> larry: have they helped you? >> a lot. the judges say the same things maks tell me in rehearsal. i get to hear it before they say it. >> larry: how do you think you are going to come out? >> anything is possible. i'm definitely trying to push forward to win. i really want to win this. >> larry: would it shock you if you won this? >> very shocked. i'm humbled, but i want to go far. >> larry: who is next? >> a young man i have repeatedly been beating in backstage pull-ups and the young woman who's blond hair is suspect. vel. we've used hydrogen in our plants for decades. the old hydrogen units were very large. recently, we've been able to reduce that. then our scientists said "what if we could make it small enough

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>> larry: kyle massey has surprised a lot of people this season. maybe even himself. he and his partner, lacey schwimmer know how to roll. watch. >> on to the stage. kyle massey. >> kyle is our star entertainer. >> i think i just fell in love. you are officially my first crush of season 11. ♪

>> larry: all right, lacey, how's he doing? >> all right. no, he's doing awesome. it was so unexpected. >> larry: was it tough at the start? >> well, try taking a 19-year-old boy who would rather be at the movies and playing video games, it's a bit tough, yeah. >> larry: what's it been like for you? >> it's one of the greatest experiences. >> larry: in all of your 19 years. >> it's been pretty amazing. every step of the way has been

unforgettable to the rehearsals and the hours. >> larry: what is lacey like? >> she's not bad. >> larry: tough? >> she's tough on me. it's necessary. i understand it's not personal. she's frustrated when sometimes i can't get a dance step. >> or not remembering. >> yeah, the hardest part is remembering the steps you learn. week by week you learn so many dance steps after awhile they lookalike. >> larry: do you know when you goof? >> yeah. lacey made a great point. i am my own worst critic. i can say i messed that one step up. my momma is like no, i messed up. i messed up, no. the other day, i was like i messed up that one step. she's like it's okay. >> larry: a different audience from disney? >> yeah, it's 600 people instead of 35. i used to go out and kids

tugging at my pants. >> larry: lacey, you cooled off. how do you rebound? >> we have had a lot of fun this season. what you see with kyle is what you get. he's a happy, go lucky guy. if we make it to the finale, that would be great. we have to keep the energy up. >> larry: what's been the hardest dance? >> can you remember any of the names? >> the walz. >> larry: you did the walz? >> this hot body was walzing on "dancing with the stars." >> tango was hard for you. >> i'm a sexy man in my sexy pants doing it my way. >> larry: during the tango were you turned on in. >> you have no idea. yeah. yeah. i love 19-year-olds. it's my thing.

>> something about my facial hair. >> larry: you like him so much you may adopt him. >> exactly. mommy. >> larry: what is your next dance? >> we have two full dances. the tango and the sambo, which is fun. >> larry: is the tango different than the argentene tango? >> yeah. >> it's more fast pagsed. i have been googling them. this is more with the feet. >> it's more close. >> more close hold. >> good job, kyle. >> she choreographed. >> larry: do you have a girlfriend, kyle? >> i do. lacey is trying to mess that up. you know what i'm saying. lacey is all over me. what can i say? >> you wish. >> larry: it don't matter whether they win or lose. tom, i understand we have a

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>> larry: we welcome -- what are you doing? we welcome tom bergeron. he's back, the host of "dancing with the stars" with brooke burke, not only the co-host, but the winner of season 7. brooke, why is this show so successful? >> i think people get a chance to see a different side of

celebrities. they get to see growth, fear, challenge. everyone's true colors come out. it's unpredictable. i love this cast. we never know what's going to happen week to week. >> larry: what's it been like for you tom? >> season ten was unpredictable. we beat "idol" that year. i think the producing team has done a superb job of assembly a cast to equal season ten. it's been surprising in a way season ten wasn't. the production itself has been from theme nights to our 200th show to the instant dances. it's all working. >> larry: "dancing with the stars" is in how many countries now? >> i'm not sure. >> i think 60 countries. >> larry: israel has one. >> yeah.

>> larry: they have a same-sex couple? what do you think of that? >> i'm not sure. we were talking about that earlier. i think it would be interesting for the pro who has to take on the role. ballroom, i'm not sure. maybe a different style dance. >> larry: what is the market value -- i know they are paid, not a great amount of money. what is the market value of the mirrored ball? >> of the actual trophy? >> priceless. >> i'm guessing 20 to 30 bucks. >> do you have any idea how hard i worked for that? my trophy rotates rooms, my daughters rooms. when people come over to the house, they don't want a picture of the family or me it's the

mirrored tree. >> apolo ohno said people want to see it. >> larry: do you pick a favorite? >> yes. yes. >> larry: someone you want to win or who you think will win? >> both. it's not always the same person. sometimes the person i would like to see win won't. i have been bad at predicting who will win from season to season. >> especially this season. i think it changes from week to week, you know. >> larry: are you surprised sometimes at who gets tossed? >> this season has been surprising. >> week one was surprising with the hoff. >> larry: who? >> david hasselhoff. >> i was a kurt warner fan. i was sad last night. rick took it seriously. it was emotional. tuesdays are tough. >> larry: do you think it's tougher on miss palin? >> it's funny.

somebody said to me today when i was getting coffee, wow, bristol is still there. do you have to look at the voting? i said it's working perfectly. the judges have been scoring her low. clearly, the viewing public who comprise 50% of the vote have been rallying to her. anybody who said to me, it's not fair, i say, so you voted for -- well, i didn't vote. look at the midterms, too. >> larry: how many votes come in? >> we are not privileged to that information. it's secretive. we don't find out who is leaving until moments before it happens live. >> larry: you don't know? >> i choose not to know. >> i didn't used to know. i thought if i saw that person during the day, i would say bye. >> i think i would treat them differently. >> quite often, i do know. >> larry: isn't it better not to know? >> we have two daughters, my wife and i, and for the first

daughter, i knew for six months we were having a girl and my wife didn't. i can keep a secret well. >> i don't want to know. i want to experience that moment live. i don't want to treat anybody differently. i don't want to be like hi. >> that's the way you treat me every week. >> larry: after talking to them tonight, the final four are a fun group. >> they are. they really are. >> the dances last week were exciting. so much energy. >> larry: you both do a great job. >> by the way, it's been great to come back. >> larry: when we come back, everybody will be here. stick around.

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>> larry: we're back with jennifer and derrick, bristol and mark, brandy and max, and kyle and lacy. derrick, do you choreograph the act? >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: it's up to you. there's no outside choreographer. >> no, everything from the costumes to the concepts to the choreography, so it's a big task. a lot of weight on our shoulders but it's a lot of fun. >> let's get a tab on the

competition. bristol and mark, what do you think about jennifer and derrick? >> i think they're really strong, and they've definitely had awesome improvement from the start, jennifer had a great partner so she's lucky to have derek, he knows what it's all about and i think she's in good hands. >> would you make them one of the favorites? >> of course. they're awesome. >> larry: it would be not -- you want to beat them, don't you? >> of course i want to beat you guys, but you guys are great. >> larry: jennifer and derek, what do you think of bristol and mark? >> the truth is is you're so amazing to watch blossom. it's just been gorgeous. and i'm just so impress the with the huge, huge jump. >> i call her the bristallion. >> what are your thoughts, and you max, on kyle and lacy? >> kyle and lacy are actually my favorite couple. they are. i've told them that a million

times. >> yeah! >> you know, but i just -- i've watched kyle for a long time on television and my daughter loves him and lacy's so cute, so we like them a lot. >> larry: max, you may be the most competitive of all. i sense that in you. i don't know what it is, it's just the feeling i have. maybe it's my impression, my mother was russian and -- what do you make of kyle and lacy? >> same thing as everybody else, they're probably the most entertaining couple we've had on the show ever. and he comes out, his smile is very contagious, we can be in a bad mood for whatever reason, and kyle walks in, everybody's laughing and joking five minutes later. so, you know, it's amazing to watch, and he translates that into his dancing which is great. and then lacy's been doing a phenomenal job. given that he's gotten the

attention -- >> we'll turn the tables. kyle, what do you think of brandy and max? >> i think brandy and max are just unbelievable. i think that they have a great chemistry and i think that they have excellent work ethic. like you guys are in the dance studio all the time and no matter what going on, ups or downs -- >> larry: are you all working in the same area? >> we're all in the same area. it always sucks to see somebody go home because we've grown so fond of each other. minus mark, i mean -- >> it's like we're all in there, we all -- >> larry: lacy, brandy and max? >> i think they're the perfect partnership. i think his strength with her is bringing out the character that she plays every week and you see it on camera and she just transforms. it's amazing to see. she's one of the best dancers on the show and it's great to be cast with her. >> larry: jennifer, do you become a character in a sense?

are you acting? >> i feel like each dance is a different role. yeah. i do feel that. >> larry: what was the hardest dance for you? >> the pasa doble. >> larry: because? >> it was that whole rock 'n' roll theme that i felt a little long in the tooth for, but i think i pushed because i felt like i needed to and i think that was where i went off the rails a little bit. >> it was kind of crazy with all the explosions going off and they didn't show you, we had a black floor for the show and they changed it like five minutes before the live show and it was kind of crazy, you don't see behind the scenes, but they always change things on us back stage so it's kind of crazy. >> larry: do you worry about the judges? do you think about them when you're dancing? >> yeah, like i catch a glimpse of their face and sometimes it's like, oh, great, like got to just get through this routine and sometimes it's like, oh, we're doing good. but -- i'm serious.

>> larry: you're judge aware, as they say. >> yeah. yeah. kind of. >> mark, are you? >> yeah, you have to be. you have to take what they say and kind of apply it to the dance each week, but for us, we're more challenging ourselves. we want to just push through and get better and better every week. our scores have kept us consistently at the bottom, but that's all right. we're having fun and wre having a good time, we just want to keep pushing. >> larry: we're going to gather everyone in front of our wall and when we come back, we'll get each of their predictions on who is going to win. entire cast is going to dance us off, too. [ woman ] alright, so this tylenol 8 hour lasts 8 hours. but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve was proven to work better on pain than tylenol 8 hour. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? good, how are you? [ male announcer ] aleve. proven better on pain.

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>> larry: okay. michael moore tonight. this will not be taken personally. jennifer, derrick, who's going to win? >> i think it could be nib. >> larry: oh, come on. >> i'm serious. it could be anyone. >> everyone has a different strength and a different -- >> i think it could be anyone. >> could be anybody. >> larry: kyle, why are you hiding over there? >> i'm not. >> larry: who's going to win? >> who do you think is going to win? >> that's your question. >> what? >> huh? >> huh? honestly it's either brandy or jennifer. >> okay. >> larry: bristol and mark, who's going to win? >> i agree, between jennifer and brandy. >> i disagree, kyle, kyle has a good personalty, on and off the dance floor.

>> atta girl bristol, right here. >> larry: who's going to win? >> we're all winners at this point. we're all in the same boat. but if i had to choose i would want max to win because he's been in the finals so many times and -- >> larry: max, are you picking yourself? >> i want him to. >> i think all the pros can relate to the fact that we don't go into competition not trying to be a winner. >> larry: so you should pick yourself. >> we all pick ourselves but i'm rooting for everybody every week. >> larry: can you be objective, brandy? who's going to win? >> i can't be. i'm sorry. >> larry: can you have an opinion? >> i'm going with tom. >> i have a winner but i was thinking survivor nicaragua, the guy with the sun burn. shoo-in. >> larry: you have a winner?