tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 11, 2010 10:00pm-12:00am EST
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honestly don't know. i really, really don't know. but i wish you all luck. >> larry: okay. let's dance us out, guys. ♪ >> larry: you go, girl. you go, girl. you go, girl. >> she's fishing you in. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. thanks for watching. tonight, profiting from pedophilia, amazon.com, after our report last night, they pulled a guide for pedophiles that they've been peddling. but today they were still showing other pro-pedophile books and they're ducking our calls for answers. john walsh with "america's most wanted" joins us. also tonight, new and troubling
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revelations in president bush's memo memoir. senator mitch mcconnell allegedly asking him to pull troops out of iraq to save the elections for republicans but publicly mcconnell was very much behind the war efforts. and later, how much say should the government have over what you feed your kids? mcdonald's in san francisco are being totaled to take the toys out of happy meals that don't meet new nutritional guidelines. dr. phil says it's up to parents, not politicians, to police kids' diets. what do you think? we'll talk about it. we begin as always keeping them on e. with amazon.com profiting from pedophilia. last night we told you about a book being sold on amazon.com. a guide for pedophiles. a disgusting self-published e-book offered since late october. around the time our broadcast was done last night, amazon had suddenly pulled the book from the website. today we looked closer at what
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else amazon.com is selling. we were amazed at what we found. first, this is the book we told but last night, called "the pedophile's guide to love and pleasure, a child lover's code of do n conduct." it's hard to even say these words. he described it this way, the misspellings are his, this is my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them by establishing certain rules for these adults to follow. i hope to achieve this by app l appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred, and perhaps lighter sentences, should they ever be caught. it gives advice, what kind of touching, kissing and fondling of children is legal, how far they can go without getting arrested. he also tells pedophiles if they're disease free they don't have to use a condom with a
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child. mr. greaves was clearly thrilled to be in business with amaz amazon.com and wants his book to not only help pedophiles but change people's attitudes about them. >> every time you see them on televisions they're either murders, rapists or kidnappers and that's not an accurate presentation of that particular sexuality. >> plenty of people complained to amazon.com. plenty of customers sent angry e-mails for days and weeks saying they shouldn't sell this book, but for days amazon refused to budge. last night the company removed that back from its website. but this morning we discovered amazon.com was still selling another pro-pedophilia book by mr. greaves, called "our gardens of flesh, from the seeds of lust to the harvest of love." clearly he's not a great speller, among other things. in fact, some of it is exactly the same content as his guide
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for pedophiles, with a section called consensual pedophilia. all day long we tried to contact amazon.com and tell them about another book. maybe they didn't know about it. but they refused to take our calls and refused to call us back. it turns out mr. greaves isn't the only person selling propedophilia related books on amazon.com. there's another book, understanding boy loves and boy lovers by david riegel, telling stories of adults who loved boys, arguing these interactions can actually be good for the children. they also sell another book by the same guy, that one is titled, "we were not abused!" exclamation mark. it also claims an adult having a sexual experience with a child could be good for the child, quote, children exposed to premature sexual experiences, the author writes, frequently turn out to be is distinguished and unusually charming and attractive in their outward
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personalities, citing a study from 1937. so why are these books still for sale? originally amazon said they didn't want to censor. freedom of speech is vital in this country. however, amazon does sensor some things. we checked their own policy. here's their content guidelines for digital publishing we found on their website. the policy says pornography, x-rated movies, home porn and hard-core meryl that depict graphic sexual acts and amateur porn are not permitted. what we deem offensive is probably what you would expect. this includes items such as crime scene videos, videos of cruelty to animals and extremely disturbing materials. let me row peat, they won't publish extremely disturbing materials. we started calling them last night around 6:00 p.m. we made a bunch of phone calls asking for a statement, an explanation.
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we wanted to talk to some human being. we left lots of messages last night. they never called us back. remember, the only statement amazon has ever made about this was to the website business insider and they were talking about that first book. in part that statement read, amazon believes it is censorship not to sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable. amazon does not promote or support hatred or criminal acts however we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions. they took the book down last night, but what about those other books? as i said, all day today, not just last night, all day today, we tried to talk to someone at amazon. we literally made dozens of phone calls and we kept being directed to the media hotline which no one answers. so we just continued to leave messages. then we decided to actually send our seattle reporter, patrick oppmann, to amazon headquarters hoping someone would talk to us on camera. here's what happened. >> i'm looking for amazon.com? >> you what? >> looking for amazon.com.
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i'm in the right place? i'm with cnn, i was trying to reach somebody in your media relations department? >> yeah, we're not allowed to have media in here. >> i'm in the lobby of the amazon.com head quarters in seattle. it's been about an hour. i got here, they wouldn't let me past security. they did send up my business card to the media relations department. i haven't heard any word back. i'm going to check again before i leave, but really i've just been waiting here for someone to come dawn and talk to us. >> it's been about an hours, there a way to check with them again to see if they'll talk to me or not? >> well i left the message with my boss. and that's the only think i can do. >> patrick waited two hours, never saw anyone from the amazon pr office. just after he left, about 6:00 p.m. tonight, we finally got a call from amazon.com, a guy named drew herdener, a spokesperson for the company, and all he would say on the record is that mr. greaves' guide book for pedophiles was pulled from the site, the book we were talking about last night.
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the book we knew was pulled from the site because we checked it after our show. we asked about the other book, he said no comment. we also asked about their guidelines for what books they will sell. he had no comment. we wanted to know who actually screens these books. no comment. and what about all the people who now want to boycott amazon? as you might have guessed, he said no comment. so 24 hours after we tried to get a statement from amazon we finally hear from them, from one guy and they didn't have much to say. in case you think amazon doesn't have many people in their pr office, when it's a story they want to talk about, they seem very able to get their message out. their pr office isn't this slow when they want to promote something. take a look at this stuff. when they want to sell you something, earlier this month they sent out six press releases in one single day announcing everything from launching a sports and outdoors store to the hiring of holiday workers. by the way, an hour after we talked to that amazon pr guy at 6:00 p.m. we noticed that they suddenly stopped selling mr. greaves' other book, gardens of
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flesh, the one we asked them about. as for the other books we've also discovered, they're still for sale. john walsh has made it his mission to change the way america protects kids. his own son adam was abducted and murdered in 1981. i spoke to him moments ago about the amazon controversy. no one wants censorship in this country, but to be selling a propedophilia book, a number of these books that justify pedophilia, doesn't that endanger kids? >> it absolutely endangers kids. what makes this country great are our freedoms. freedom of religion, freedom of speech and freedom of press. we're all about freedom of press. but when you give someone a platform to talk to other ped files, to teach them how to exploit children, how to hurt children and how to mitigate the punishments, how to get away with it, that would be encouraging the guy who kidnapped elizabeth smart and,
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you know, here's how you can get away with it and keep a 14-year-old girl out on the streets longer. >> this one book by this guy, greaves, which they've now pulled, basically said you don't have to use a condom. if you're disease free, you don't have to use a condom with a child. it also went on to explain what touching, fondling and even kissing with a child would not get you arrested. >> it's disgusting. and i'm really, really appalled that amazon didn't saddle up and make that moral decision. it's not about freedom of press, it's about not giving other pedophiles the ability to lea learn -- they took it off and said people did the right thing saying we're going to boycott amazon. there will be a financial penalty for selling this book. >> we found this other book by the same author on the website all day today. they only removed it an hour after we told them about it when they called us back after 24 hours of trying to reach them and there's still other books on this website which are encouraging pedophiles, which
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are stories of, you know, adult/child -- they call them relationships but it's rape. >> it's illegal. it's illegal. it's immoral. it's a judgment call by someone as big as amazon to say, even if they just said this, what if someone buys this book, they molest a child, the cops find this book in the house, and then the parents decide to sue the pedophile and amazon. all of those financial reasons are an incentive enough not to do it, but why didn't they do it just for the right reasons? >> right. they had hundreds of e-mails for days from customers saying, this is outrageous, you can't do this. they only pulled this thing last night, basically by the end of our broadcast last night, suddenly they pulled it. who knows what they'll do tonight. but we wanted to ask them, what is the screening process? because these are -- in a lot of cases, self-published books. these aren't great works of literature by an author, these are just guys who have written
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these creepy books. >> not credible research, not something that is productive to society, and again, it is nothing to do with the rights or civil rights or freedom of speech or anything. >> you have a right to write whatever book you want to write but a company has a choice. they're profiting off these books by about ped feel yachlt i'm amazed, too, they're staying completely silent on this. this is a company which is very good at getting their ceo on television, he's been on oprah and other shows. they sent six press releases in one day promoting various things. it's not like they don't have a lot of people in their pr department. >> absolutely. and why not respond to you and say, why did it take you so long? >> the author of this book talked to a reporter yesterday, i want to play you what he said. >> every time you see them on television they're either murderers, rain iflts or
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kidnappers, and that's just not an accurate presentation of that particular sexuality. >> he's basically saying p ing pedophiles are misunderstood. >> someone explain to me how it's an equal power base between a 50, 45-year-old man and a 5-year-old boy or 6-year-old or 5-year-old little girl. where is the equal power base? >> and these books, i've read several of them today, they're disgusting. but they all justify this. they all say that the child wants it or is initiating it, or in many cases some of these books still on the site say it is good for the child. >> how could that possibly be? recently over 100,000 victims of pedophilia of catholic priests tried to get an audience with the pope and to a person they said, that exploitation by that pedophile priest destroyed my life. suicide, alcoholism, inability to have a sexual relationship with a man or a woman.
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it is a devastating, no-equal power base crime. and how anybody can justify it. but i've been catching these guys for years. this narcissistic attitude that they are a victim of society, there's only one victim here. it's the child. >> john walsh. thanks. well, let us know what you think about this. join the live chat now at ac360.com. we hear kids being trafficked for sex in this country, tonight, what happened to one young girl, a teen sold for sex, her own mom found ads for her on the internet. >> they showed her face, it was in a hotel room. and she had on lingerie and a wig. she was in very sexual positions. >> reporter: and how old was your daughter? >> she was 14. >> 14 years old. plus the bombshell in president bush's new memoir. he says senator mitch mcconnell asked him to withdraw troops from iraq before the 2006
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saddam would still be in power, murdering his own people like he used to. >> i think this is a particularly bad time to be sending the message to the terrorists in iraq that we might be thinking of running just when they're running. and we're having considerable success in catching them and killing many of them. >> if we cut and run in iraq, they'll follow us here. and we need to remind the american people that the terrorists were at war with us before 9/11. >> so publicly saying no so-called cut and run, that's senator mcconnell's public message in 2006. now former president george w. bush claims in his memoir "decision points" that mcconnell thought it would boost the gop's chances in the 2006 chances. here's what he writes about a meeting he had with mcconnell in september of 2006, the same month the last quote was from, two months before the midterm election. mr. president, he said, your unpopularity is going to cost us control of the congress. well, mitch, i asked, what do you want me to do about it?
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mr. president, he said, bring some troops home from iraq. bring some troops home. that is clearly much different message that what mcconnell was saying on tv months earlier and even that same month and now at the time he spoke with president bush privately he reportedly did not know mr. bush was considering the surge. a little more context about the debate, as you may recall, the surge was january 2007. that afounsment came four months after this talk with president bush. later, the former president talks about a confession of sorts from the kentucky republican, mr. bush writes, ledmy senate minority leader mitch mcconnell who supported the surge and graciously later admitted to me he had been wrong to suggest a withdrawal. we reached out to mcconnell to see if he would be on the program, he declined. he goes on to say, quote, but the public record is clear on his unwavering support for ensuring our troops in the field
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were fully funded and general petraeus was able to execute our counterinsurgery strategy on the ground in iraq free of ash tary deadlines for withdrawal even when it was politically unpopular to do so. that doesn't address why mcconnell may have been saying one thing publicly and saying something privately if president bush is correct in his book, advising the opposite. not just for strategic reasons at all but for political reasons. senator mcconnell now finds himself under fire in his home state of kentucky. the cukucourier journal entitle why does he place greater value on that purely political goal than on american citizens' well being? joining me now, cornell belcher, and dana loesch, tea party organize er and 97.7 fm. you have a busy day, dana. >> i do.
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>> if president bush's account of what happened is accurate and mcconnell's office isn't denying that, what does that say about him? >> it's an amazing story. only the story you just covered as troublesome as this story is, because at the same time he was attacking democrats he was behind the scenes talking -- telling bush we need to cut troops for political purposes. apparently it's okay to cut and run for political purposes. it really is kind of -- it really is kind of outrageous and it is sort of the sum of all voters' fears that in washington people really are cutting deals for purely political purposes that have life and death consequences. voters always fear this sort of thing is going on but this is the first time we've got a president coming out and sort of saying it as a first account that this is what happened. it is the sum of all voters' fears and why they're so cynical about politicians in washington. >> john yarmuth says, this is a democrat, if the story is true, senator mcconnell will have to
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explain to the families of all the men and women who sacrificed in iraq why he was willing to play politics with their lives. is that fair? >> well, yes and no. first of all, i think that there's several things at play. i think mitch mcconnell has heinous, heinous political instincts. he should not ascend the office he is lucky enough to currently hold. but to withdraw troops and then wave the flag for retreat, he didn't call for retreat, he said let's pull out a few troops. i don't think it's any different than what any other politician in washington, d.c., has done. i think that they, quite honestly, i think our men and women in uniform are regularly used as political pawned by both members of each party and it's one reason i just don't like either party but with the defense appropriation bill in december 2009, you had congressional members add tons of earmarks to a defensive appropriation bill that needed to pass, but then of course if anyone tried to stand up to it,
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then the opposition could say you're not wanting to fund the men and women overseas. they constantly play games. >> i hear what you're saying, but it seem there's is something different in this, because number one, we've heard time and time again from republicans, frankly both politicians on both sides accusing the other side of playing politics with u.s. troops and of not listening to commanders in the field and making decisions based purely on politics. this seems, if it's true, a clear cut example of that. the most mac vel yin sense, a few months before a midterm election, you're worried to lose, you say, just pull out a few troops, not for a strategic reason, just purely to help your party. >> it's not the same. to say they're playing politics with an appropriation bill as opposed to saying pull out troops for political purposes, you know, when there's literally a life and death situation is very different. he crossed the line here. >> this is strategic implications. >> it is different. you were talking about life and death of soldiers. he's making a political
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calculation -- >> it's not life and death. >> go ahead, dana. >> my main point is you cross the line whether republican or democrat, you cross the line when you're making political calculations with life and death situations in war time. >> dana? >> right. life and death situations. let's talk about how we had democrats in congress that were looting military funding out of specific accounts that went towards ammunition, that went towards fuel, that went towards troop training and you know what they did with this money? packed it into earmarks. we have an museum in welouisian a visitors center in san francisco. that you could argue very well is life and death. >> this is why politics is broken. because you have someone right now who won't even come out and say, you know what? this was wrong. this crosses the line. instead we're going to pivot and try to attack the republicans. this -- the democrats. this happens way too often.
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i'm not going to pivot. >> i'm not pivoting anything. >> you did. >> it's disingenuous for you to point to one side and i'm just calling you out on it. >> i said take democrat, republican head off. for a u.s. senator to tell the president let's pull out troops because it's going to help us politically is outrageous whether you're a democrat or republican. >> oh, no and i agree with that. i agree with that. but we also have to realize that this has been done a lot, for a very long time, and it's interesting that just now it's coming to light just because it's mitch mcconnell who i'm not a fan of but at the same time i think that while it is disingenuous he was kind of smart in that he followed reagan's 11th with this, the first time we're hearing about it is in bush's book, and he supported the surge when congress supported it. so i think there's something to be said -- >> his statement today was basically nondenial denial,
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though. if you read between the lines it doesn't contradict what the president is saying and it's a story now because have you president bush coming out and saying it and many politicians may think this. i don't know of many examples where we've heard them actually say if and according to president bush he actually said this. >> it's like a movie t is unbelievable. and i've got to push back again. look. defense appropriations is the same as pulling out troops for political purpose is not equal. >> i disagree. >> up next. should the government decide what meals are served to your kids? the city of san francisco voted to ban happy meal that's don't meet nutritional standards. dr. phil mcgraw joins me ahead. and more than 3,000 people aboard that cruise ship, they probably would have enjoyed a happy meal, instead settled for mayonnaise sandwiches. we'll tell you why. n south amer?
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a lot more news we're covering tonight, randi kaye joins us. >> it is the 11th day of the 11th month, americans pay tribute today to veterans. joe biden laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns and called veterans the heart and soul of the nation. a potential power sharing agreement in iraq, a deal was cobbled together after eight months of bickering. the pakistani taliban is claiming responsibility for a suicide bomb attack, more than 100 injured. and in san diego, more than 3,000 passengers are back on dry land after their carnival cruise ship was towed to port.
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passengers spent three days without air-conditioning, hot showers, hot meals and in some cases no working toilets. one passenger said that before the navy provided relief supplies the ship ran out of food and then the crew started making those yummy mayonnaise sandwiches. >> just when you want when you've been out at sea for many days. >> and apparently they get a refund and then invited back for another cruise as well for maybe more mayonnaise sandwiches. >> that would -- >> they've probably had it. >> randi we'll check in with you later. fast food certainly helping make kids fat, making all of us fat, but are the toys part of the problem? should they be banned? we'll talk to dr. phil mcgraw about what's being done in san francisco where they're outlawing toys with meal that's don't meet nutritional deadlines. is that the government's role? and later crime and punishment, selling kids and teens for sex, wait until you hear where it is happening, in the united states, and who's been caught doing it.
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i'm not talking about the government publishing recommended dietary guidelines, i'm talking about the government telling restaurants what kind of meals they can serve. city officials in san francisco clearly think the answer is yes, they voted to ban fast food restaurants from offering toys with meals that don't meet certain nutritional standards. happy meals are one of the primary targets. they can still sell it but without a toy, unless the meal has less than 600 calories, half a cup of fruit and three quarters cup of vegetables. that ain't a happy meal. mcdonald's says we're extremely disappointed with the decision. it's not what our customers want nor is it something they asked for. parents tell us it's their right and responsibility not the government's to make their own decisions and to choose what's rathe for their children. gavin newsom also opposes the ban which he says is an unprecedented governmental intrusion into parental responsibility. he says parents, not
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politicians, should decide what their children eat, especially when it comes to spending their own money. mayor newsom says he'll veto the ban. reaction from the public has been mixed. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think that it's another case of san francisco going over board. >> i think it's probably a good thing. i know a lot of kids are innocented by the toy more than the food. >> the toy s aren't the issue. my kid wants the hamburger. it's just an extra bonus that it has the toy. so it's not -- not having the toy and they're still going to have the happy meal. >> let the parents make that decision, then. i mean, that's the bottom line. i mean, across the country everybody gets to have happy meals if they want to have it. >> we'll talk to dr. phil about what he thinks but let me give you background. it's a difficult issue for some people to decide on. the number of obese kids has tripled since 1980 and a study
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from yale shows kids are bomg barreded with more fast food ads than ever. in 2009 according to this yale study, preschoolers saw 21% more ads for fast food than in 2003. older kids saw 34% more fast food ads. last year the fast food industry spent more than $4 billion on marketing and they're even targeting toddlers. i want to show you something here. according to the yale researchers, mcdob ald's directs advertising to kids as upas 2 years old from websites like this. ronald.com. it's full of games, a lot of images of ronald mcdonald, it's interesting. at the top of the screen, it says, hey, kids, this is advertising. i'm shnot sure a 2-year-old appreciates that, take a look what else this study found. 40% of parents reported that their kids ask them to go to
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mcdonald's at least once a week. 15% of preschoolers ask to go every day. and parents give in 84%, reported taking their child at least once a week. parents are under tons of pressure from their kids and their own busy schedules but does that mean that the government should start policing the stuff? i talked to dr. phil mcgraw about the ban earlier. so what do you think about this? this law does not ban happy meal it's bans the toys that go with the meals if the meals don't meet certain health requirements. does that make sense? >> i think it's along the same line of thinking when they banned joe the camel, which was considered to be a cartoon, which would appeal to children, and i think they know that kids want those toys, and so by putting the toy in there they're enticing these children to buy these nonnutritious meals, so they're saying do we want to do that? and i agree that's not a good business practice. i've got to say, 25% of
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caucasian children are considered overweight and 33% of african-americans and hispanic children. so this is an epidemic level problem. make no mistake. i really applaud the fact that somebody's paying attention to this, but, anderson, this is the parents' job. it's the parents' job. they're the ones that buy the food, present the food, put food in the house, take kids to buy these things. this is the parents' job. and you don't turn that over to the government. you cannot abdicate, you can't even delegate this decision to the government. this gets back to the core level of parenting and i think it is dangerous if we get the government involved in this way. >> you're saying it's an overreach, it's getting the government too involved in this sort of decision making which should be left up to parents. >> i think it is an overreach. if the government wants to be active in trying to do something about this epidemic of childhood obesity, then get involved with education. change the school lunch programs. my god, so many of the school
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lunches that are delivered around the country are so high in carbohydrates and so low in protein and so high in sugar and so high in sodium, that's contributing to the obesity. what are they worried about putting a toy in a happy meal? they need to be focused on the things they now fund. because this is a serious problem in america. but look. this is the parents' job. it's the parents' job to say no. it's the parents' job to say, this is not nutritious. it's the parents' job to decide where they take the children and what kind of eating patterns they develop. if we turn this over to the government, what else are we going to turn over to them? this is way overreach. >> there are a lot of parents who say, we don't have a fighting chance against some of these huge companies and all the advertising dollars they pour in. $4.2 billion on advertising and marketing, the average
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preschooler saw 2.8 tv ads every day for fast food. kids age 6 to 11 saw 3.5 ads and 15% of preschoolers asked to go to mcdonald's every single day. i guess some parents will say, look, this isn't a fair fight. >> well, it may not be a fair fight because the marketing machine is huge. it is powerful. but if we're trading numbers, let me trade this one with you. 70% of overweight children are going to become overweight adul adults. for every 40 pounds you're over, your chance for heart attack, type two diabetes, go through the ceiling. >> i was watching "food ink" which is a fascinating look at food around the united states and world and it gave the example of walmart which was pressured by customers to start offering healthier choices in some of their outlets, you know, healthier yogurt and stuff like that, and they actually did and
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that's been a huge deal for -- when walmart chooses to do something it's got a humidge pact on the marketplace and that was based on consumers demanding something. >> we've got the real power here. and believe me, this turf war is fought at the local level. you get moms and dads talking to those managers and saying we're going to drive right down the street and we're going to go somewhere else, we're simply not going to come here, then that franchise will start doing something different. don't ever think we don't have the power of the dollar. where we go and where we choose to spend it, particularly during these tough economic times is something they pay attention to. and the reason they're selling us what they're selling us is because that's what we've showed the willingness to buy. >> that's true. i must say i've switched to buying salads at mcdonald's, although it's hard passing up those big macs, but i force myself to do it. >> they look and smell good and once in a while they're okay. seriously. but you have to understand these kids, they get so focused on this and your eating habits are
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learned. people aren't born with a palate for this, if it's learned it can be unlearned. parents, don't give up the fight. >> dr. phil, thanks. still ahead tonight, tracking a sex trafficker in america. >> just what kind of a person would drug, then sell a 14-year-old for sex? we went looking. and what we found isn't what you might expect. >> well, what's even more surprising than who the person is is the punishment received. our investigation, next. se toyoa developed this software that can simulate head injuries and helps make people safer. then they shared this technology with researchers at wake forest to help reduce head injuries on the football field. so, you know, i can feel a bit better about my son playing football. [ male announcer ] how would you use toyota technology to make a better world? learn how to share your ideas at toyota.com/ideasforgood.
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america. we wanted to find out who these kids are and how it's happening. the justice department estimates 300,000 american kids are at risk of being pushed into prostitution. although the how the majority of victims are being trafficked isn't new, most are runaways or have been kicked out of their homes. the internet is becoming a bigger component of child prostitution. the national center for missing and exploited kids says the number of american kids that it sees being sold for sex on the internet is astounding. amber lyon investigates one horrifying story. >> come here, honey. come here, baby. >> reporter: what was your first reaction when you went on the internet and went and saw the ads with your daughter? >> i was heartbroken. i was scared. they showed her face. it was in a hotel room. and she had on lingerie and a wig.
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she was in very sexual positions. >> reporter: how old was your daughter? >> she was 14. >> reporter: 14 years old, missing for nine months before a mother saw an ad selling her daughter for sex on backpage.com, giving police the break they needed to find the girl and bring her home. >> what's her name? >> cookie. >> reporter: we're not naming the 14-year-old nor her mother, to protect the family. but we can tell you that she loves to draw and has brothers and a sister. one night last year the girl ran away from home. she was angry that her parents had forbidden her from going to a party. the mother tells us the 14-year-old ran away from home and not only a day later was in this fast food restaurant and that's where a woman picked her up and found out she was a runaway and said, i have a friend you can stay with, she'll buy you clothes, give you a place to stay, and everything went downhill from there.
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according to court documents and the mother's account, a trafficker got the 14-year-old hooked on drugs. marijuana, codeine, ecstasy, then sold her to men who would literally line up to take advantage of the girl. >> once i got her home and got her in the tub and stuff and, you know, i was trying to get her to take the wig off of her head. and she had those burns in her scalp. >> reporter: she had burns on her head? >> in her scalp. all her hair was gone. and maybe about six burn marks on the back of her scalp. she just said, i don't want to talk about it. mama, i don't want to talk about it. >> reporter: we're driving through the area where the girl lives, where some of the sex
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trafficking took place. i grew up in st. louis and i was very surprised to find out this was going on in this area of town. middle class families live here, there's nice neighborhoods. i think when people think of sex trafficking of our youth, think think it only happens to poor kids in the city and that's just not the case. just what kind of person would drug and sell a 14-year-old for sex? we went looking. and what we found isn't what you might expect. she was a 27-year-old woman. latasha mcfarland, free at home with a daughter of her own. mcfarland admitted in court to selling the 14-year-old on backpage but denies knowing she was a minor. she was originally charged with three counts, including two of trafficking a minor for prostitution. a potential life sentence. but those more serious charges were dropped when she pled guilty to a separate
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prostitution charge that did not involve trafficking a minor. the maximum sentence on that charge? five years. and until her december sentencing date, this woman remains free at home caring for her child. the last thing she said to me is i don't know anything about sex trafficking minors on the internet, then she started crying and slammed the door in my face. rich callahan is the united states attorney for st. louis. we asked him about the five-year maximum under this plea deal. it's the same sentence someone could get for trafficking a single marijuana joint across state lines. so it seems to me, i can't believe how, in the united states, someone can traffic a 14-year-old girl, sex trafficker, sell her like a slave, profit off it, and then get an equal punishment as someone travi intrafficking a j marijuana. how is this possible? >> when you're dealing with
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runaway victims -- >> reporter: but she's not a runaway. >> i understand you keep saying that. but she wasn't always living with the mother. >> reporter: callahan said because prosecutors couldn't count on the girl's testimony, they took the deal instead. >> under the circumstances. and five years in prison is by some lights at least better than getting nothing at all. sometimes have you to do things you don't think are -- you're not wild about doing. you'd like to get more time, but you can't always do that. >> reporter: you can't always do that. that's the reality this girl's family is left with, struggling to help their daughter salvage what's left of her childhood. >> i said, why didn't you come back home? and she said, well, mama, once i got to taking those drugs and having all the sex, then i didn't think that you would want me anymore. and she was wrong.
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she was so wrong. >> it's so fascinating to see, you walk up to that house and it's so not what you expect to be the person who's trafficking an underage girl online. what now for this family? >> well, this family is really upset, as you can tell, they're worried that the trafficker is facing five years or less in prison. in addition, they're very upset with backpage.com. they say this website aided and abetted the sale of their daughter and they hired a lawyer out of st. louis who is suing backpage now for this family. >> it's going to be tough, because the argument that a lot of these websites make is we're like the phone company, we're just offering the service, we're not responsible for what's being sold. >> that's what's unique. backpage, if you talk to them, they say this lawsuit is just riddled with errors, but this family is saying that, you know what? bottom line here, we don't care about first amendment rights, anything else, our daughter was sold on your website and you
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profited off it and this is child abuse and you're profiting off of it, and they believe that they have a case in the court of law. if this does go through, this could open a floodgate for other lawsuits against sites like craigslist and backpage. >> tough case to make. craigslist has always said they're very different than backpage, they claim they had some screening procedures, pointing to backpage saying they don't have any. >> exactly, they did respond, we can't comment on this ongoing litigation but have been working diligently to build a safety and security program to better protect our community. >> not sure what a holistic is. >> we're working on a documentary of sex trafficking of america's youth, being trafficked by americans, and we're definitely looking into backpage and what this is. >> more coming up in the months ahead. appreciate it. three high school basketball players striking back at their coach for striking them. we'll tell you what this is all about. the morning is over, it's time for two more pills.
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the coach says he paddled them basically to make them better young men. an attorney for the students says the coach has been suspended. the school won't confirm that. nis san drivers take note, the company is recalling nearly 605,000 sent tras, xterras and suvs, battery cables need to be fixed. google has fired the employee who they say leaked information about big raises. they were notified tuesday of across the board pay hikes of 10%. the company says it won't discuss internal matters. and you probably didn't see this, tonight you got a shout out from john stewart on msnbc's "rachel maddow show." >> one of my favorite things, anderson cooper, he does a nice job, he's fun to watch. and you as well, and i like on an individual basis a lot of this stuff. again, i watch way too much of it. i really do. and that is in itself corrupting.
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but he's got a bit on his show called "keeping them honest." >> yeah. >> which is just so funny to me, which is, isn't that the subtext of -- it'd be like me introducing, i've got a new segment called, "telling jokes to an audience." >> true, you would think, yes, it is basically the subtext for what we're all supposed to be doing, although frankly we don't do enough of. >> we're doing it right here. >> nice he said that. we all know wolf blitzer's renaissance man, tonight we learned he's a dance machine. wolf blitzer was a presenter at the taping of the soul train awards last night in atlanta which is a sentence i never thought i would actually say. wolf says he loved watching "soul train" while growing up. he was performing the moves to doug gi, which i guess is popular right now.
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and, yeah, oh, goodness. >> look at him go. >> they showed the tight shot, we want to see him bust a move. wow. >> he looked pretty at home with that. >> i love that wolf blitzer was at the soul train awards. when you think of that, the first thing i think of is wolf blitzer. >> me too. right away. what about you, have you ever dougied? >> have i ever what? >> dougied. >> no, i don't. and even if i had i wouldn't do it on tv. >> it's a verb, to dougy. >> it is? i'll take your word. >> i did research from our doug gis on the staff, and they told me it's not really a dance, it's a vibe. >> it's a way of being. a lifestyle. we'll try it. randi, thanks. up next, what is up with amazon? they pulled two books, propedophilia books off their website, still selling others. they're not returning our phone calls for 24 hours. we'll talk about it with john
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they were still selling other propedophile books and they're ducking our calls for answers. john walsh with "america's most wanted" joins us. also tonight, new and troubling revelations in president bush's memoir. senator mitch mcconnell requesting a one-on-one with the president in 2006, allegedly asking him to pull troops out of iraq to save the elections for republicans but publicly mcconnell was very much behind the war efforts. was he playing politics with war? we're keeping them honest. and later, how much say should the government have over what you feed your kids? mcdonald's in san francisco are being told to take the toy z out of happy meals that don't meet new nutritional guidelines. dr. phil says it's up to parents, not politicians, to police kids' diets. what do you think? we'll talk about it. we begin as always keeping them honest. with amazon.com profiting from pedophilia. last night we told you about a book being sold on amazon.com. a guide for pedophiles. a disgusting self-published e-book offered since late october. around the time our broadcast
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was done last night, amazon had suddenly pulled the book from the website. we thought, okay, the story is over. today we looked closer at what else amazon.com is selling. we were amazed at what we found. we're going to tell you about that in a second. first, this is the book we told but last night, called "the pedophile's guide to love and pleasure, a child lover's code conduct." it's hard to even say these words. it's written by a man named phillip greaves, and an amazon he described it this way. the misspellings are his. this is my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them by establishing certain rules for these adults to follow. i hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred, and perhaps lighter spelled wrong, sentences should they ever be caught. i read the book and it's incredibly disturbing. mr. greaves gives advice to pedophiles about what kind of touching and kissing and
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fondling of children is legal. how far they can go without getting arrested. he also tells pedophiles if they're disease free they don't have to use a condom with a child. mr. greaves was clearly thrilled to be in business with amazon.com and wants his book to not only help pedophiles but change people's attitudes about them. >> every time you see them on televisions they're either murders, rapists or kidnappers and that's not an accurate presentation of that particular sexuality. >> plenty of people complained to amazon.com. plenty of customers sent angry e-mails for days and weeks saying they shouldn't sell this book, but for days amazon refused to budge. they said they don't believe in censorship. they clearly changed their mind last night, and the company removed that book from its website. but this morning we discovered amazon.com was still selling another pro-pedophilia book by mr. greaves, called "our gardens of flesh, from the seeds of lust to the harvest of love." harvest is spelled wrong.
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clearly he's not a great speller, among other things. the book has similar content as the other book. in fact, some of it is exactly the same content as his guide for pedophiles, with a section called consensual pedophilia. all day long we tried to contact amazon.com and tell them about this other book. maybe they didn't know about it. but they refused to take our calls and refused to call us back. it turns out mr. greaves isn't the only person selling propedophilia related books on amazon.com. there's another book, understanding loved boys and boy lovers by somebody named david riegel. i haven't read this one but it describes itself as telling stories of adults who loved boys, arguing these interactions can actually be good for the children. they also sell another book by the same guy, that one is titled, "we were not abused!" exclamation mark. it also claims an adult having a sexual experience with a child can be good for the child. quote, children exposed to premature sexual experiences,
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with adults the author writes frequently turn out to be distinguished and unusually charming and attractive in their outward personalties, claiming a study from 1937. so why are these books still for sale? originally amazon said they didn't want to censor. we can all understand that, freedom of speech is vital in this country. however, amazon does sensor some things. we checked their own policy. here's their content guidelines for digital publishing we found on their website. the policy says pornography, x-rated movies, home porn and hardcore material that depict graphic sexual acts and amateur porn are not permitted. they also say they won't publish offensive material, what we deem offensive is probably what you would expect. this includes items such as crime scene videos, videos of cruelty to animals and extremely disturbing materials. let me repeat that, extremely disturbing materials they say they won't publish. we wanted to talk to amazon
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about the policy and tell them about these books. we started calling them last night around 6:00 p.m. we made a bunch of phone calls asking for a statement, an explanation. we wanted to talk to some human being. we left lots of messages last night. they never called us back. remember, the only statement amazon has ever made about this was to the website business insider and they were talking about that first book. in part that statement read, amazon believes it is censorship not to sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable. amazon does not promote or support hatred or criminal acts however we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions. so they clearly have now reversed themselves on mr. greaves' book. as i mentioned, they took it down last night. but what about those other books? as i said, all day today, not just last night, all day today, we tried to talk to someone at amazon. we literally made dozens of phone calls and we kept being directed to the media hotline which no one answers. so we just continued to leave messages. then we decided to actually send our seattle reporter, patrick oppmann, to amazon headquarters hoping someone would talk to us
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on camera. here's what happened. >> i'm looking for amazon.com? >> you what? >> looking for amazon.com. >> oh, this is it. >> i'm in the right place? i'm with cnn, i was trying to reach somebody in your media relations department? >> yeah, we're not allowed to have media in here. >> i'm in the lobby of the amazon.com head quarters in seattle. it's been about an hour. i got here, they wouldn't let me past security. they did send up my business card to the media relations department. i haven't heard any word back. i'm going to check again before i leave, but really i've just been waiting here for someone to come down and talk to us. yeah, it's been about an hour. is there any way to check with them again to see if they'll talk to me or not? >> well i left the message with my boss. and that's the only think i can do. >> patrick waited two hours, never saw anyone from the amazon pr office. just after he left, about 6:00
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p.m. tonight, we finally got a call from amazon.com, a guy named drew herdener, a spokesperson for the company, and all he would say on the record is that mr. greaves' guide book for pedophiles was pulled from the site, the book we were talking about last night. the book we knew was pulled from the site because we checked it after our show. we asked about the other book, he said no comment. we also asked about their guidelines for what books they will sell. he had no comment. we wanted to know who actually screens these books. who looks at them. no comment. we asked about the people who now want to boycott amazon? as you might have guessed, he said no comment. so 24 hours after we tried to get a statement from amazon we finally hear from them, from one guy and they didn't have much to say. in case you think amazon doesn't have many people in their pr office, when it's a story they want to talk about, they seem very able to get their message out. their pr office isn't this slow when they want to promote something. take a look at this stuff. when they want to sell you something, earlier this month they sent out six press releases in one single day announcing everything from launching a sports and outdoors store to the hiring of holiday workers.
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by the way, an hour after we talked to that amazon pr guy at 6:00 p.m. we noticed that they suddenly stopped selling mr. greaves' other book, gardens of flesh, the one we asked them about. as for the other books we've also discovered, they're still for sale. john walsh has made it his mission to change the way america protects kids. his own son adam was abducted and murdered in 1981. i spoke to him moments ago about the amazon controversy. no one wants censorship in this country, but to be selling a propedophilia book, a number of these books that give encouragement to pedophiles, that justify pedophilia, doesn't that endanger kids? >> it absolutely endangers kids. what makes this country great are our freedoms. freedom of religion, freedom of speech and freedom of press. we're all about freedom of press. but when you give someone a platform to talk to other pedophiles, to teach them how to exploit children, how to hurt children and how to mitigate the
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punishments, how to get away with it, that would be encouraging the guy who kidnapped elizabeth smart and, you know, here's how you can get away with it and keep a 14-year-old girl out on the streets longer. >> this one book by this guy, greaves, which they've now pulled, basically said you don't have to use a condom. if you're disease free, you don't have to use a condom with a child. it also went on to explain what touching, fondling and even kissing with a child would not get you arrested. >> it's disgusting. and i'm really, really appalled that amazon didn't saddle up and make that moral decision. it's not about freedom of press, it's about not giving other pedophiles the ability to learn how to avoid law enforcement and exploit a child. i know they took it off probably because people did the right thing and said, we're going to boycott amazon. there will be a financial penalty for selling this book. >> we found this other book by the same author on the website all day today. they only removed it an hour
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after we told them about it when they called us back after 24 hours of trying to reach them and there's still other books on this website which are encouraging pedophiles, which are stories of, you know, adult/child -- they call them relationships but it's rape. >> it's illegal. it's illegal. it's immoral. it's a judgment call by someone as big as amazon to say, even if they just said this, what if someone buys this book, they molest a child, the cops find this book in the house, and then the parents decide to sue the pedophile and amazon. all of those financial reasons are an incentive enough not to do it, but why didn't they do it just for the right reasons? >> right. they had hundreds of e-mails for days from customers saying, this is outrageous, you can't do this. they only pulled this thing last night, basically by the end of our broadcast last night, suddenly they pulled it. who knows what they'll do tonight. but we wanted to ask them, what
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is the screening process? because these are -- in a lot of cases, self-published books. these aren't great works of literature by an author, these are just guys who have written these creepy books. >> not credible research, not something that is productive to society, and again, it is nothing to do with the rights or civil rights or freedom of speech or anything. >> you have a right to write whatever book you want to write a company doesn't necessarily have to sell it. it's a choice. or make money, profit off it. they're profiting off these books by -- about pedophilia. i'm amazed, too, they're staying completely silent on this. this is a company which is very good at getting their ceo on television, he's been on oprah and other shows. they sent six press releases in one day recently promoting various things. it's not like they don't have a lot of people in their pr department. >> absolutely. and why not respond to you and say, why did it take you so long? >> the author of this book
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talked to a reporter yesterday, i want to play you what he said. >> every time you see them on television they're either murderers, rapists or kidnappers, and that's just not an accurate presentation of that particular sexuality. >> he's basically saying pedophiles are misunderstood. >> someone explain to me how it's an equal power base between a 50, 45 or 25-year-old man and a 5-year-old boy or 6-year-old or 5-year-old little girl. where is the equal power base? >> and these books, i've read several of them today, they're disgusting. but they all justify this. they all say that the child wants it or is initiating it, or in many cases some of these books still on the site say it is good for the child. >> how could that possibly be? recently over 100,000 victims of pedophilia of catholic priests tried to get an audience with the pope and to a person they
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said, that exploitation by that pedophile priest destroyed my life. suicide, alcoholism, inability to have a sexual relationship with a man or a woman. it is a devastating, no-equal power base crime. and how anybody can justify it. but i've been catching these guys for years. this narcissistic attitude that they are a victim of society, there's only one victim here. it's the child. >> john walsh. thanks. well, let us know what you think about this. join the live chat now at ac360.com. ahead, another online controversy. we hear kids being trafficked for sex in this country, tonight, what happened to one young girl, a teen sold for sex, her own mom found ads for her on the internet. >> they showed her face, it was in a hotel room. and she had on lingerie and a wig. she was in very sexual positions. >> reporter: and how old was your daughter? >> she was 14. >> 14 years old. plus the bombshell in president bush's new memoir.
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he says senator mitch mcconnell asked him to withdraw troops from iraq for political gain before the 2006 elections. tonight we'll check the record and show you what the senator was actually saying publicly at the time. you can compare the two. is it hypocrisy? decide for yourself. we're keeping them honest. [ male announcer ] the next big thing from lexus is not a car. it's the idea that a car that will never have an accident may be possible.
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another keeping them honest report tonight, this one is about a united states senator who seemed to say one thing publicly but privately may have been saying something completely different. you may be saying, so what? this is what politicians do all the time, and that's probably true. but rarely do you have a senator being accused of double-speak by a former president of the united states from the same political party. that's what's happening right now. the senator in question is republican mitch mcconnell of kentucky. back in 2006 before president bush started the so-called surge in iraq, mcconnell was accusing democrats of endangering america because some of them were calling for withdrawal of u.s. troops in iraq. listen to what he was saying publicly. >> the dean democrats in charge, s saddam would still be in power,
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murdering his own people like he used to. >> i think this is a particularly bad time to be sending the message to the terrorists in iraq that we might be thinking of running just when they're running. and we're having considerable success in catching them and killing many of them. >> if we cut and run in iraq, they'll follow us here. and we need to remind the american people that the terrorists were at war with us before 9/11. >> so publicly saying no so-called cut and run, that's senator mcconnell's public message in 2006. now former president george w. bush claims in his memoir "decision points" that mcconnell actually asked him to pull some troops out of iraq to boost the gop's chances in the 2006 elections. here's what he writes about a meeting he had with mcconnell in september of 2006, the same month the last quote was from, two months before the midterm election. mr. president, he said, your unpopularity is going to cost us control of the congress. well, mitch, i asked, what do you want me to do about it? mr. president, he said, bring some troops home from iraq. bring some troops home. that is clearly much different
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message than what mcconnell was saying on tv months earlier and even that same month and now at the time he spoke with president bush privately he reportedly did not know mr. bush was considering the surge. a little more context about the debate, as you may recall, the surge was january 2007. that announcement came four months after this talk with president bush. later, the former president talks about a confession of sorts from the kentucky republican, mr. bush writes, led by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, who supported the surge, and graciously later admitted he had been wrong to suggest a withdrawal. we reached out to mcconnell to see if he would be on the program, he declined. he goes on to say, quote, but the public record is clear on his unwavering support for ensuring our troops in the field were fully funded and general petraeus was able to execute our counterinsurgery strategy on the ground in iraq free of arbitrary deadlines for withdrawal even
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when it was politically unpopular to do so. that statement doesn't really address why mcconnell may have been saying one thing publicly and according to the president was saying something completely differently privately, if president bush is correct in his book. advising the opposite. not just for strategic reasons at all but for political reasons. senator mcconnell now finds himself under fire in his home state of kentucky. the courier journal entitled, "mcconnell's true colors." asking, why does he place greater value on that purely political goal than on american citizens' well being? joining me now, cornell belcher, and dana loesch, tea party organizer, editor of bigjournalism.com. 97.1 fm. you have a busy day, dana. >> i do. >> if president bush's account of what happened is accurate and mcconnell's office isn't denying that, what does that say about him?
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>> it's really an amazing story. only the story you just covered as troublesome as this story is, because at the same time he was attacking democrats he was behind the scenes talking -- telling bush we need to cut troops for political purposes. apparently it's okay to cut and run for political purposes. it really is kind of -- it really is kind of outrageous and it is sort of the sum of all voters' fears that in washington people really are cutting deals for purely political purposes that have life and death consequences. voters always fear this sort of thing is going on but this is the first time we've got a president coming out and sort of saying it as a first account that this is what happened. it is the sum of all voters' fears and why they're so cynical about politicians in washington. >> john yarmuth says, this is a democrat, if the story is true, senator mcconnell will have to explain to the families of all the men and women who sacrificed in iraq why he was willing to play politics with their lives. is that fair?
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>> well, yes and no. first of all, i think that there's several things at play. i think mitch mcconnell has heinous, heinous political instincts. i don't think he should ever ascend beyond the office which he is lucky enough to currently hold. but aside from that, there's a big difference with saying you're going to withdraw a few troops and then to wave the white flag and call for a full-on retreat. he didn't call for a retreat, he didn't say let's withdraw entirely, he said let's pull out a few troops. i don't think it's any different than what any other politician in washington, d.c., has done. i think that they, quite honestly, i think our men and women in uniform are regularly used as political pawns by both members of each party and it's one reason i just don't like either party but with the defense appropriation bill in december 2009, you had congressional members add tons of earmarks to a defensive appropriation bill that needed to pass, but then of course if anyone tried to stand up to it, then the opposition could say you're not wanting to fund the men and women overseas. they constantly play games. >> i hear what you're saying,
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but it seems there is something different in this. because number one, we've heard time and time again from republicans, frankly politicians on both sides accusing the other of playing politics with u.s. troops, of not listening to commanders on the field and making decisions based purely on politics. this seems, if it's true, a clear cut example of that. in the most mac ka veil yin sense, a few months before a midterm election, you're worried about lose, you say just to pull out a few troops, not for a strategic reason, just purely to help your party. >> it's not the same. to say they're playing politics with an appropriation bill as opposed to saying pull out troops for political purposes, you know, when there's literally a life and death situation is very different. he crossed the line here. >> this is strategic implications. >> it is different. you were talking about life and death of soldiers. he's making a political calculation -- >> it's not life and death. >> go ahead, dana.
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>> my main point is you cross the line whether republican or democrat, you cross the line when you're making political calculations with life and death situations in war time. >> dana? >> right. life and death situations. let's talk about how we had democrats in congress that were looting military funding out of specific accounts that went towards ammunition, that went towards fuel, that went towards troop training and you know what they did with this money? packed it into earmarks. we have an museum in louisiana, we had an edward kennedy policy institute in massachusetts. there was a visitors center in san francisco. 26 some odd billion dollars used for this. that you could argue very well is life and death. >> appreciate both of you being on. up next, should the government get to decide what kind of meals are served to your kids? the city officials of san francisco voted to ban toys to happy meal that's don't meet new nutritional standards. has the government gone too far? dr. phil mcgraw joins me ahead.
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joins us with the bulletin. >> it is the 11th day of the 11th month, americans pay tribute today to veterans. vice president joe biden led a wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns at arlington national cemetery and called veterans the heart and soul of the nation. a potential power sharing agreement in iraq appeared to fall apart when a sunni-backed group walked out. the deal was cobbled together after eight months of bickering. the pakistani taliban is claiming responsibility for a suicide car bomb attack in karachi. police say at least 15 people were killed. more than 100 injured. and in san diego, more than 3,000 passengers are back on dry land after their carnival cruise ship was towed to port. it lost power earlier this week following an engine room fire. passengers spent three days without air-conditioning, hot showers, hot meals and in some cases no working toilets. one passenger said that before the navy provided relief supplies the ship ran out of food and then the crew started making those yummy mayonnaise
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sandwiches. >> just when you want when you've been out at sea for many days. yikes. >> and apparently they get a refund and then invited back for another cruise as well for maybe more mayonnaise sandwiches. >> i think that would -- yeah. >> they've probably had it. >> randi we'll check in with you later. fast food certainly helping making america's kids fat, making all of us fat, but are the toys served with the fast food part of the problem? should they be banned? we'll talk to dr. phil mcgraw about what's being done in san francisco where they're outlawing toys with meals that don't meet nutritional deadlines. is that the government's role? and later crime and punishment, selling kids and teens for sex, wait until you hear where it is happening, in the united states, and who's been caught doing it. . p-a-d... p.a.d. isn't just poor circulation in your legs causing you pain. it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke. i was going to tell you. if you have p.a.d.,
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so i've got a question for you, should the government police what you feed your kids? i'm not talking about the pub lishing of recommended dietary guidelines, i'm talking about the government telling restaurants what kind of meals they can serve. city officials in san francisco clearly think the answer is yes, they voted to ban fast food restaurants from offering toys with meals that don't meet certain nutritional standards. happy meals are one of the primary targets. they can still sell it but without a toy, unless the meal has less than 600 calories, half a cup of fruit and three quarters cup of vegetables. that ain't a happy meal. as you can guess, mcdonald's is not happy at all. they've said, we're extremely disappointed with the decision. it's not what our customers want nor is it something they asked for. parents tell us it's their right and responsibility not the government's to make their own decisions and to choose what's right for their kids.
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the mayor of san francisco, gavin newsom also opposes the ban which he says is an unprecedented governmental intrusion into parental responsibility. he says parents, not politicians, should decide what their children eat, especially when it comes to spending their own money. mayor newsom says he'll veto the ban. but the board that passed it, they have enough votes to override the veto. reaction from the public has been mixed. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think that it's another case of san francisco going over board. >> i think it's probably a good thing. i know a lot of kids are insented by the toy more than the food. >> the toys aren't the issue. my kid wants the hamburger. it's just an extra bonus that it has the toy. so it's not -- not having the toy and they're still going to have the happy meal. >> let the parents make that decision, then. i mean, that's the bottom line. i mean, across the country everybody gets to have happy meals if they want to have it. >> we'll talk to dr. phil about what he thinks but let me give
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you background. it's a difficult issue for some people to decide on. the number of obese kids has tripled since 1980 and a study from yale shows kids are being bombarded with more fast food ads than ever. in 2009 according to this yale study, preschoolers saw 21% more ads for fast food than in 2003. 21%. older kids saw 34% more fast food ads. last year the fast food industry spent more than $4 billion on marketing and they're even targeting toddlers. i want to show you something here. according to the yale researchers, web-based advertising to kids as young as 2 years old to websites like this. ronald.com. it's full of games, a lot of images of ronald mcdonald, it's interesting. there's a disclaimer, it says, hey kids, this is advertising. i'm not sure a 2-year-old appreciates that, take a look what else this study found.
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40% of parents reported that their kids ask them to go to mcdonald's at least once a week. 15% of preschoolers ask to go every day. and parents give in 84%, reported taking their child at least once a week. parents are under tons of pressure from their kids and their own busy schedules but does that mean that the government should start policing the stuff? i talked to dr. phil mcgraw about the ban earlier. so what do you think about this? this law doesn't ban happy meals, it bans the toys that go with the meals if the meals don't meet certain health requirements. does that make sense? >> i think it's along the same line of thinking when they banned joe the camel, which was considered to be a cartoon, which would appeal to children, and i think they know that kids want those toys, and so by
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putting the toy in there they're enticing these children to buy these nonnutritious meals, so they're saying do we want to do that? and i agree that's not a good business practice. i've got to say, 25% of caucasian children are considered overweight and 33% of african-americans and hispanic children. so this is an epidemic level problem. make no mistake. i really applaud the fact that somebody's paying attention to this, but, anderson, this is the parents' job. it's the parents' job. they're the ones that buy the food, present the food, put food in the house, take kids to buy these things. this is the parents' job. and you don't turn that over to the government. you cannot abdicate, you can't even delegate this decision to the government. this gets back to the core level of parenting and i think it is dangerous if we get the government involved in this way. >> you're saying it's an overreach, it's getting the government too involved in this sort of decision making which should be left up to parents. >> i think it is an overreach. if the government wants to be
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active in trying to do something about this epidemic of childhood obesity, then get involved with education. change the school lunch programs. my god, so many of the school lunches that are delivered around the country are so high in carbohydrates and so low in protein and so high in sugar and so high in sodium, that's contributing to the obesity. what are they worried about putting a toy in a happy meal? they need to be focused on the things they now fund. because this is a serious problem in america. but look. this is the parents' job. it's the parents' job to say no. it's the parents' job to say, this is not nutritious. it's the parents' job to decide where they take the children and what kind of eating patterns they develop. if we turn this over to the government, what else are we going to turn over to them? this is way overreach. >> there are a lot of parents who say, we don't have a fighting chance against some of these huge companies and all the advertising dollars they pour in.
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i read that food industries spend $4.2 billion on advertising and marketing, the average preschooler saw 2.8 tv ads every day for fast food. kids age 6 to 11 saw 3.5 ads and 15% of preschoolers asked to go to mcdonald's every single day. i guess some parents will say, look, this isn't a fair fight. >> well, it may not be a fair fight because the marketing machine is huge. it is powerful. but if we're trading numbers, let me trade this one with you. 70% of overweight children are going to become overweight adults. for every 40 pounds you're over, your likelihood of heart attack, cancer, type 2 diabetes go through the ceiling. this is a battle parents need to pick. >> i was watching a documentary, "food inc." which is a
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fascinating look at food around the united states and world, and it gave the example of walmart which was pressured by customers to start offering healthier choices in some of their outlets, you know, healthier yogurt and stuff like that. and they actually did and that's been a huge deal for -- when walmart chooses to do something it's got a huge impact on the marketplace and that was based on consumers demanding something. >> we've got the real power here. and believe me, this turf war is fought at the local level. you get moms and dads talking to those managers and saying we're going to drive right down the street and we're going to go somewhere else, we're simply not going to come here, then that franchise will start doing something different. don't ever think we don't have the power of the dollar. where we go and where we choose to spend it, particularly during these tough economic times is something they pay attention to. and the reason they're selling us what they're selling us is because that's what we've showed the willingness to buy. >> that's true. i must say i've switched to buying salads at mcdonald's, although it's hard passing up those big macs, but i force myself to do it.
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>> they look and smell good and once in a while they're okay. seriously. but you have to understand these kids, they get so focused on this and your eating habits are learned. people aren't born with a palate for this, they learn it across time. and if it's learned, it can be unlearned and relearned. parents, don't give up the fight. >> dr. phil, thanks. still ahead tonight, tracking a sex trafficker in america. >> just what kind of a person would drug, then sell a 14-year-old for sex? we went looking. and what we found isn't what you might expect. >> well, what's even more surprising than who the person is is the punishment received. our investigation, next.
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crime and punishment report, we've all heard statistics of kids being sold for sex in america. we wanted to find out who these kids are and how it's happening. the justice department estimates 300,000 american kids are at risk of being pushed into prostitution. although the how the majority of victims are being trafficked isn't new, most are runaways or have been kicked out of their homes. the internet is becoming a bigger component of child prostitution. the national center for missing and exploited kids says the number of american kids that it sees being sold for sex on the internet is astounding. amber lyon investigates one horrifying story.
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>> come here, honey. come here, baby. >> reporter: what was your first reaction when you went on the internet and went and saw the ads with your daughter? >> i was heartbroken. i was scared. they showed her face. it was in a hotel room. and she had on lingerie and a wig. she was in very sexual positions. >> reporter: how old was your daughter? >> she was 14. >> reporter: 14 years old, missing for nine months before a mother saw an ad selling her daughter for sex on backpage.com, giving police the break they needed to find the girl and bring her home. >> what's her name? >> cookie. >> reporter: we're not naming the 14-year-old nor her mother, to protect the family. but we can tell you that she loves to draw and has brothers and a sister. one night last year the girl ran
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away from home. she was angry that her parents had forbidden her from going to a party. the mother tells us the 14-year-old ran away from home and not even a day later was in this fast food restaurant and that's where a woman picked her up and found out she was a runaway and said, i have a friend you can stay with, she'll buy you clothes, give you a place to stay, and everything went downhill from there. according to court documents and the mother's account, a trafficker got the 14-year-old hooked on drugs. marijuana, codeine, ecstasy, then sold her for sex to men who would literally line up to take advantage of the girl. when she was finally rescued, she was physically scarred and told her mother she'd been abused. >> once i got her home and got her in the tub and stuff and, you know, i was trying to get her to take the wig off of her head. and she had those burns in her scalp. >> reporter: she had burns on
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her head? >> in her scalp. all her hair was gone. and maybe about six burn marks on the back of her scalp. she just said, i don't want to talk about it. mama, i don't want to talk about it. >> reporter: we're driving through the area where the girl lives, where some of the sex trafficking took place. i grew up in st. louis and i was very surprised to find out this was going on in this area of town. middle class families live here, there's nice neighborhoods. i think when people think of sex trafficking of our youth, they think it only happens to poor kids in the city and that's just not the case. just what kind of person would drug and sell a 14-year-old for sex? we went looking. and what we found isn't what you might expect. she was a 27-year-old woman. latasha mcfarland, free at home with a daughter of her own.
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mcfarland admitted in court to selling the 14-year-old on backpage but denies knowing she was a minor. she was originally charged with three counts, including two of trafficking a minor for prostitution. a potential life sentence. but those more serious charges were dropped when she pled guilty to a separate prostitution charge that did not involve trafficking a minor. the maximum sentence on that charge? five years. and until her december sentencing date, this woman remains free at home caring for her child. the last thing she said to me is i don't know anything about sex trafficking minors on the internet, then she started crying and slammed the door in my face. rich callahan is the united states attorney for st. louis. we asked him about the five-year maximum under this plea deal. it's the same sentence someone could get for trafficking a
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single marijuana joint across state lines. so it seems to me, i can't believe how, in the united states, someone can traffic a 14-year-old girl, sex traffic her, sell her like a slave, profit from it, and then get equal punishment as someone trafficking a joint of marijuana. how is this possible? >> it's going to depend on witnesses. and when you're dealing with runaway victims -- >> reporter: but she's not a runaway. >> i understand you keep saying that. but she wasn't always living with the mother. >> reporter: callahan said because prosecutors couldn't count on the girl's testimony, they took the deal instead. >> under the circumstances. and five years in prison is by some lights at least better than getting nothing at all. sometimes have you to do things you don't think are -- you're not wild about doing. you'd like to get more time, but you can't always do that. >> reporter: you can't always do that. that's the reality this girl's
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family is left with, struggling to help their daughter salvage what's left of her childhood. >> i said, why didn't you come back home? and she said, well, mama, once i got to taking those drugs and having all the sex, then i didn't think that you would want me anymore. and she was wrong. she was so wrong. >> that was amber lynoons. one school in alabama rose to the challenge of educating kids with fewer dollars. we'll show you how they've done it. gecko: gd news sir, i jugot ae
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the lingering recession has forced a lot of american schools to grapple with budget cuts, that's because most schools are supported by state and local taxes and revenues are down nationwide. but cutting the budget doesn't mean the quality of education is diminished for students. steve perry visited one school in alabama and in tonight's "perry's principles," he explains how fewer dollars forced a community to take action. >> let's go quietly. >> reporter: faced with deep budget cuts, educators here at
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phillips academy could make lots of excuses. i hear all over the country that education is suffering because of budget cuts. what have been some of the impacts that you've felt? >> well, last year the state cut the classroom supplies, also the library and half the money to buy library books. they cut textbook funds and professional development funds ♪ we sing our praise anew >> reporter: but failure is not an option for this school, k-8. 100% black, 60% poor, got homeless children in your school, this is the worst economic time and you have one of the top ten schools in the entire state? why is it that resources are not holding you all back? >> quality instruction makes a difference. >> as you added more chemicals, there are more things there to react. >> the relationship between that teacher and that student makes a difference. >> we're talking about worlds apart. >> the skills that that teacher has when she goes into that classroom, that makes a
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difference. >> ready? >> reporter: what makes your school a good school? >> our parent base is phenomenal. no matter what we may need, our parents are there to stand in the gap to do fund-raisers, to volunteer time. i left the school today and one of our parents, he was acting as our custodian who called in sick this morning. we have people who understand that whatever it takes to get the job done we have to do it. and if somebody wants to come in and volunteer and help, then we're willing to accept that help. >> reporter: so you have found a way to inspire your teachers, children and parents to stay focused on the children and the business of education. >> we have to bring our a game every single day. no excuses, we have to make it happen. we're in the business of educating students. and if students are not educated we haven't done our job. ♪ >> obviously schools across the un
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