tv Sanjay Gupta MD CNN November 14, 2010 7:30am-8:00am EST
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>> excellent job, rick. i'll give you an extra ten seconds to say what you want to say. i hope the doctor also cured that anemic jump shot of yours. >> i throw him a bone. see how he tries to come after me. i learned my lesson long ago. never again. pretty ricky, good to see you. talk to you again soon. for our viewers, getting close to the bottom of the hour. time for "sanjay gupta, m.d." i'll be back at the top of the hour with more liv news on "cnn sunday morning." good morning and welcome. i'm dr. sanjay gupta. as a father, the first story we're going to tell you today really struck a chord with me. brand new study, the biggest of its kind, found that only a dozen of 3,000 fast food kids meals out there met nutritional guidelines. for a lot of people, that's not going to be a big surprise. what might surprise you is a professionor, who spent two months on a junk food diet, and he actually lost weight. he lost about 27 pounds and about 8% of his body fat. we're going to look at his story
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and also look at some healthy alternatives. and a woman with a mission. she saw refugee boys from war-torn countries playing soccer with this ragged ball and a handful of rocks, and she decided, you know what, i'm going to make a difference. a very special story. finally, open enrollment for medicare starting monday. what do you need to know? we've researched it. we'll tell you in our "ask the doctor" segment. let's get started. you know, as a father, there were two stories that really caught my eye this week. first up, san francisco's decision to ban toys with meals that have more than 600 calories and 35% of total calories coming from fat. on a similar note as well, new research from yale university finds that out of more than 3,000 kids' meals served at fast food restaurants, only about a dozen meet nutritional
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guidelines. for most people, that's not really going to come as a surprise, but the reason i think it's a concern is the study also found that 84% of parents say they take their child to eat fast food at least once a week. wanted to quickly just show you a couple of the worst offenders. the kfc popcorn chicken meal, for example. the chicken over here, biscuit, and string cheese. a drink, soda of some sort, 840 calories. think about that for a second. another terrible offender as well, dairy queen original cheeseburger. you've got fries, the soda. also a chocolate bar. 973 calories. think about that for a second. keep in mind, i mean, the number of calories recommended per day for 4 to 8-year-olds for example starts around 1,200 for girls, about 1,400 for boys, depending on their growth and activity level. with these meals, they could be reaching more than half their calories in one sitting. parents should note thatany fast food restaurants have healthy options. they'll certainly tell you this. in fact, an industry spokesperson said the increasing
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number of healthful options in kids' meals and nutritious offerings in children's meals is the number one food trend in quick service restaurants. the yale authors of the study say that's true but the options are not prominently advertised. a lot of people may not go to these types of fast food restaurants to get healthy food. among the kids healthy meals highlighted. the subway veggie delight kids' meal. apple slices, sandwich, and juice. 285 calories. and the burger king kids' meal. this is the one with macaroni and cheese, apple slices, and you have fat free milk as well. 285 calories. this one would qualify for a little toy. but, you know, this is obviously a topic that a lot of people are interested in. joining us to talk more about this is associate professor mark hob. he's an associate professor of human nutrition at kansas state university. you just did a fascinating experiment that i think a lot of people paid attention to this, professor, where you ate junk food essentially for ten weeks.
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first of all, thanks for joining us. >> truly my pleasure to be here. >> you lost weight, lowered your clet patrol levels. it was ten weeks long. first of all, how much weight did you lose? what were your cholesterol levels? >> lost 27 pounds, and my cholesterol, the bad, triglycerides, dropped 20%, and the hdl increased 20%. >> the hdl being the good cholesterol. >> correct. >> what prompted you to do this in the first place? >> it's a classic experiment. kind of gets on the issue. there's obviously an obesity issue in the u.s. you're touching on it with the issues you're raising with the kids. for the class, i teach an energy balance class, and obesity is the prominent topic throughout the semester. i wanted to push that envelope a little bit, induce weight loss. i had some weight to lose in theory. and so i used myself as a tool and proceeded to use junk food as a means to do that and then
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to get -- to kind of see there's a separation between behavior, how we get to weight loss versus are the outcomes truly more important than the path that we take to get there? >> if you had to summarize the message here -- my guess is you're not encouraging everyone to go out and start eating a lot of junk food. but what is the message? >> i think there may be a disconnect between behavior and outcomes because i don't condone what i'm doing as being healthy. the foods that i'm eating are healthy, but if i told people i was eating a lacto-vegetarian diet, they'd think that's probably pretty good. and a lot of these foods might classify as vegetarian, yet when you look at what's in them, the sugar content, the trans-fat content in some of these foods, it's unhealthy. there's issues we need to discuss, both professionally and socially, as far as what's more important, the behaviors, the foods that we eat, or the health outcomes that we try to achieve. >> when you talk about -- i
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think you're alluding to this. a nutritious way to lose weight. you know, you've talked about the weight and the cholesterol levels, which are two good measures of this. but even counting calories, you know, reducing your calories, would you consider this a nutritious way to lose weight? is it at the end just about a couple of measures? how would you classify that? >> yeah, i think that's a big issue. you know, counting calories, we have a society, i think, where we want to eat till we're comfortably full. by counting calories, sometimes the foods you eat, you kind of have to count calories. for example, the ones that i chose to lose weight because there may be some, quote, unquote, hidden calories in those things. you mentioned some of the foods at the restaurants. it may feel like you're only eating 500 calories when you're actually eating 1,000. >> right. you heard about the story out of -- with the toys and the happy meals. what did you make of that? you know, the fast food industry, obviously, as a whole,
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is often targeted as one of the causes of the obesity problem. what did you make of this most recent thing? >> yeah, i think you hit on the nail. i think, to be honest and to disclose, i receive a lot of my research funding from the food industry, and i'm a member of ift, which is institute of food technologists. so i appreciate where the food industry is. they're caught in a hard -- between a rock and a hard place, if you will, and they're trying to -- they are trying to make efforts to improve the healthiness of the foods, but they also have competition. it's a free market. it's capitalism. so they're also trying to make money. they're trying to do both. from a parent's perspective, they may not be making those changes fast enough. >> it was a fascinating experiment you did, professor haub. i appreciate you sharing it with us. like i said, i think it's going to be pretty instructive as well. we'll see what happens with this other experiment in the fast food industry. maybe we'll be talking to you about that again sometime soon. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. thank you.
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>> thank you, sir. fascinating stuff. and then obviously a big topic that we're going to continue here on sgmd. next, refugee kids from war-torn countries like afghanistan, bosnia, congo, they're finding a sense of community in a very special soccer league right here in the united states. we're going to take you there. nobody in my family ever had a heart attack. if anything, i thought i'd get hit by a bus, but not a heart. my doctor put me on an aspirin regimen to help protect my life. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. check with your doctor because it can happen to anybody. had a tree that bore the most rare and magical fruit, which provided for their every financial need. [ thunder rumbling ] [ thunder crashing ] and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had given its last. but with their raymond james financial advisor, they had prepared for even the unthinkable.
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this next story is going to take you to a special place, a place that, when you're here, you're family. a georgia woman is getting pretty high marks for combining soccer and education to give refugee kids from war-torn countries a new lease on life. she's the matriarch of the fugees family. at first glance, they just look like a bunch of kids playing soccer. but take another look, a closer one. this is the fugees family. anybody who wants to be a part thf family can be? >> any refugee who wants to be part of this family can be. >> and that is what binds them together. they are all refugees. 86 children and teens from more than 28 countries.
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>> any country that's had a war in the past 20, 30 years, we've had kids from those countries. >> what started as a casual soccer team six years ago is now a school full of students, most of whom had never been in a classroom before. robin dekori, sharply dressed in the school's uniform, dress sweater and tie, is at the student's academy, something that would have been impossible in his native sudan. >> right after you moved to the united states, and someone said, robin, what are you going to do with your life, what would you have said? >> i really don't know what to say during that time. now i look at myself, i'm going to be someone like very good, make my people proud. >> life in america has not always been good to robin. when you're an outsider from sudan living in the united states, what is that like? what happens to you? >> it's very hard. like everyone is picking on you. they're treating you really
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differently. you don't belong here. >> what did you do? >> i used to fight a lot. nowadays, i don't really get into fights. i try to resolve them and not make people fight. >> while there are refugees living all around the united states, the fugees family is the only group combining soccer with hope for a better future. you have kids like this from around the country? >> we get letters from all around the world wanting to send fugees to us. >> how many more years before you finish? >> i have four more years because i'm in eighth grade now. >> four more years and then? >> another four years of college. >> right now fugees family only teaches kids through the eighth grade. there's good news. they're about to begin construction on the fugee family high school. we'll see how that goes. good luck to you all. next my day with dr. q, the fellow neurosurgeon whose path so medicine is already different
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we are back with "sgmd." a while ago we brought you the story of dr. q, a fellow neurosurgeon with an unforgettable story. at age 19 he jumped this chain link fence between mexico and california to work as a farm laborer. he made his way through college and eventually became a world class brain surgeon at johns hopkins. we heard from a lot of you about him wanting to hear more. here it is. the details of this, i think, are fascinating. you literally have hopped the fence. you don't have a plan. >> that's right. >> what do you do? do you go to a farm? do you start asking around? what do you do? >> that's exactly right. when people come from the united states, and they come from humble backgrounds like myself, the very first place where you can get a potential job are those jobs in which you have to get your hands, you know, dirty, and your hands bleed of pulling weeds in the fields. and that was a place where a lot
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of immigrants have traditionally come to the united states. for me, it was the san joaquin valley in california. >> how much did you get paid? >> my very first check was $162, and i always tell people that i realized that at that pace, working from sunset to sundown in the summer, seven days a week, it was going to be a lot of hard work. and i remember, i tell you, dr. gupta, my hands, the very same hands that now do brain surgery, right around that time they had scars everywhere from pulling weeds. they were bloody. >> you went to harvard medical school, and it makes me wonder, did you ever question yourself? i mean, you said other people questioned you. did you ever think to yourself, you know what, i don't belong here? >> yes, many times. many times i questioned myself. i questioned myself when i was in medical school. i questioned myself before i was
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in medical school at u.c. berkeley. i question myself today, dr. gupta, that i am fit to do what i do every day. but i think that that's also what has kept me on the top of my game. i question every single move i do every day. you know, back then when i was in medical school, i remember thinking, wow, i look at my classmates. do you know you had some of them who train at the best prep schools in the country, who came from the most distinguished families in the united states, from traditional education, and there was me who barely had an education, but i was eager to learn. and i had -- i always knew that i had something that others didn't have, and that was that fire in my belly that keeps me going. >> but what is the fire now? now you've accomplished so much. what keeps the fire going? >> i mainly deal with patients with brain cancer, and every single day, dr. gupta, i have to give bad news. i have to give bad news not only
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to my patients but to their families, and i see it in their eyes. i see the desperation. sometimes it only takes a touch to a patient. it takes only to acknowledge that you've been given a gift by operating on them that can make a difference in the way they view themselves or in the way that their families view it. and i acknowledge that as a potential contribution that i make for my patients every day. but my fire is simple. i want us to find better ways to treat brain cancer. >> i remember the first time that i scrubbed. you come in and they hand you the towel and you dry your hands. then they gown you, and you're putting your hands in the gloves and they're holding the gloves for you. for me, it was an amazing moment. but i didn't come from where you came. to be that person having picked those weeds in the field and now to have someone holding your gloves for you, that must have been an amazing moment for you. >> it was so amazing that i was so nervous and so excited at the
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same time, that i contaminated myself, and they sent me back out to change again. >> over the fence again. >> climb over again. but it was -- i mean, it was an exhilarating moment. you are tense. your adrenaline is going through. and i was coming in exactly that moment when the attending asked me, you want to scrub in and help me as a medical student? here i am at harvard, and i am excited. harvard and i am excited, but no words can describe that feeling, the way you describe it, your hands coming in and it's awkward. they're not going in yet. you're shaking with adrenaline, focusing all that energy. i really have no words to describe it. i was so excited that when i turn around my gown, my gown actually hit the wall and got contaminated so they send me back out and scrub again. it was quite a moment. >> next time i'm going to ask dr. q., does he have any regrets about can breaking the law in chasing his dreams? stay with "sgmd."
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welcome back. you know, i've been talking with dr. alfredo quinones. he came to the united states at age 19 as an illegal farm worker. eventually made his way to harvard medical school and now johns hopkins where he's a top-notch brain surgeon. you've known people, friends and family members who have succumbed to this disease. >> yes. >> your grandfather? >> yes. unfortunately my grandfather succumbed to metastatic cancer to his brain. a classmate of mine in medical
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school succumbed to this disease. a friend of mine succumbed to this disease. i decided i wanted to be a part of it. i want to make a small contribution. whether it's me or my students, someone's going to have to do it. and someone will find a cure. >> the amnesty that president reagan allowed immigrants to come to this country helped you come to this country. you've also seen now 22 years later how much has changed and what's happening along the borders right now. is this something you think about? you weigh in on? >> i think about it all the time, dr. gupta. i don't weigh in a lot obviously because i'm not an authority on this issue of immigration. i can only talk about my own experience as an immigrant, what it was like when people say, well, immigrants, they come in here, they're lazy, they don't work hard or they -- you know, they want to take advantage of the government. i don't think that's true. if you look through generations of many, many immigrants from many different countries, i think that most immigrants, they want to come to the united
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states because they want to fulfill the american dream. >> technically, q. broke the law. >> that's right. >> i think that's what this is all about. are they breaking -- i've heard everything proposed from let's offer amnesty to all undocumented workers to let's create mechanisms to find them all and make sure they return to their homes, their home countries. do you have an opinion on that? >> i can only speak for myself. if i had been in that situation 20 years ago, just like many immigrants are today, and it happened to a certain degree, when i was allowed -- when i came to the united states, they catch me and send me back to my country, what did i do? i had to come back again. i had to climb the fence again. i think that as long as there's poverty, people are going to keep trying their best. >> all right, dr. q., thanks so much. something all doctors are interested in, medicare open enrollment starting monday. there are some changes for people on medicare. everything you need to know, we'll answer next on "ask the doctor."
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well, we are back with "sgmd." every week at this time we're going to be answering your questions. think of this as your appointment, no waiting, no insurance necessary. we've got a lot of questions about medicare. not surprising given the time of year. let's take one question here from mary in walnut creek. general question, "what should my husband and i know about open enrollment for medicare?" well, first of all, medicare open enrollment starts monday, november 15th. a couple of things to keep in mind. first off starting in 2011, average monthly premium charges
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for standard monthly coverage medicare will go up about 3% for those drug plans. for some, those drug prices are going to go up. but for people who enter what's known as the donut hole, the gap in coverage, for them, they may actually start to have a benefit here to some extent, 50% off discounted brand name drugs, 7% discount on generic drugs. again, that's for people who enter what's known as the coverage gap. there's also something else, which is the medicare advantage dis-enrollment period. for people who, this is going to be from january 1st through about february 14th. if you opted for a medicare advantage plan, but change your mind subsequently, during this time you can switch from an advantage plan to an original medicare plan. there are a lot of details here, mary, on medicare specifically. too much probably to go through in this show, so we've put it on our website. go to cnn.com/health. you can check out the chart. find the top five things you need to know specifically for resources to help you make your selections.
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