also, possible new forensic evidence found on a beach in aruba. we're live there with the very latest. hillary clinton for vice president in 20. the current number two says don't bet on it. vice president biden appearing on "larry king live" last night shooting down the speculation saying he's already spoken with the president about running again. and what the top two democrats decided just ahead. the president is in lisbon, portugal for a weekend summit with nato allies. the combat mission in afghanistan will be at the top of the agenda. we'll get a look ahead with our chris lawrence at what the president hopes to accomplish just ahead. up first this friday morning. new information in the case of natalee holloway. after all of these years, what could be a huge break in the case. we're awaiting the results of forensic testing to see if a jawbone found on the beach in aruba could belong to the alabama teen who disappeared five years ago. >> and at the same time, we're getting a look at a surreal meeting when joran van der sloot and the victim's mother. videotape of their conversation

was recently released exclusively to nancy grace on hln. here's a look. >> you can sit here for the rest of your life, and i can sit here for the rest of my life. you can make some choices here, joran, and you can make the right decisions. you have your whole life ahead of you. i want to know what happened, and i want to move on. i want to move on in my life. and i cannot close the book, and i feel as if we've lost a father, another young girl, joran, you don't need to lose your life here in prison and be sitting here when you're 60 years of age and insisting to me that you don't know what happened. if it was an accident, tell me. you know, i don't know. i don't know. but i am -- i'm here.

>> i hope you can understand also it's very hard to -- hard for me to talk to you. this is really not easy. i'm really doing my best. i know you have a very good heart. i know that for a fact. and i don't know if you would mind just giving me some -- i really have been thinking a lot and giving me some time to think. and i promise you even if you give me your address, i will write you. >> amazing exchange. jean casarez live for us in aruba. we know that beth holloway has done this before. she's confronted his family. she's taken it upon herself to continue the investigation. what was she hoping to achieve in this face-to-face conversation with the prime suspect in her daughter's disappearance? >> reporter: at the castro castro prison in lima, peru, i think she wanted answers number one. she's a teacher, so i think the

way she spoke right there, i think, is who she is and what she was about, and she was psychologically trying to get the answers. i read the psychological answers written by a judge and they said he was very selfish, self-centered, and wanted the attention focused on him. notice she doesn't get confrontational because the report saying if he doesn't get his way, he can become violent toward women. >> a question a lot of people might be having right now is they take a look at that extraordinary video of the mother confronting the person she believes killed her daughter. how did she get into the prison? >> well, that's the big question. what we have heard was at least the attorney for joran van der sloot is saying that there were bribes. not by beth holloway, but by those with her to get in, get cameras. but the documentary reporter said no, they knew what we were doing, they allowed us in.

and he says in one part, they told me i only had to be in here for five minutes. so maybe even he knew. i will tell you the prison director, everyone i've met when i was there, they have been suspended because of this. >> wow, that is amazing. and i know that there was talk that this had happened some time back and we're just getting the tape now. meanwhile, it's interesting timing. because in aruba, where you are, a discovery of a jawbone, they're doing dna testing on. what's the latest? >> well, the latest is everybody is aware of it here in aruba. everyone is waiting because this partial jawbone as forensic experts in aruba have described it is not -- they are now in the hands the forensic dna and dental comparison. >> thanks so much. live in aruba. by the way, don't miss jean casarez every weekday on "in session," 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. eastern. are joe biden and hillary

clinton trading places? that was a very fun parlor game people were speculating about last month. not according to the vice president. >> there's been a lot of buzz about the secretary of state joining president obama as his number two in 2012, paving the way for a run in 2016. but vice president joe biden said the 2012 team is set and everyone's onboard. >> shot down the rumors that you and hillary clinton were going to do a switch. >> i tried, but it didn't work. no, i -- >> because you wanted state, didn't you? >> no, no, no -- look, here's the deal. the president and i -- there was never any serious talk ever that anyone ever heard about me not being on the ticket with him or her not staying as state. >> woodward started it, though. even bob backed off a little bit on that. what he said -- and i read his book.

what he basically said was when she was being considered for secretary of state, it was suggested by one of her pollsters she should take it because maybe there would be the opportunity to be vice president. hillary's made it clear from the first time i came out, joe, i don't want to be vice president. the president's made it clear, i expect you to be on the ticket, i want you on the ticket. it was a washington parlor game. >> ed henry joins us in our next hour here on "american morning." we'll get his take on this. well, charlie rangel pleading for mercy. in the end, he didn't get it. the house ethics committee voting last night 9 to 1 to censure rangel for 11 violations. the stiffest penalty short of getting kicked out leaving the 80-year-old rangel in tears and fighting for his name.

>> -- that you can see your way clear for the record to make it abundantly clear as the record would indicate that any action taken by me was not with the intention to bring any disgrace on the house or to enrich myself personally or to -- or considered by counsel to be corrupt. that would be of a great help to my family and my community. >> the full house takes up the committee censure recommendation some time after thanksgiving. that panel also recommending that rangel be forced to p back taxes he still owes the federal government. also new this morning, another mind-rescue drama unfolded on new zealand's west coast. 27 coal miners are missing after an underground explosion at the pike river mine. two survivors emerged on their own. they say they lost communication with other miners. concerns of a gas build-up has kept rescuers from entering the

shaft up to a mile and a half long. well, federal agents say a sophisticated cyber thief from malaysia somehow hacked into the u.s. federal reserves computer system. they hacked the fed. the secret service claims the 32-year-old was caught with more than 400,000 stolen credit and debit card numbers. agents nabbed him selling some of those hot card numbers for $1,000 last month. anything like this ever happen to you while you were flying? a delta flight out of atlanta, the windshield cracked. it didn't just crack, it really cracked at 34,000 feet. the co-pilot watched it spread across the window as the boeing 737 diverted to dallas. no word on what caused the crack, whether it was some heating differential or maybe it was hit by something. passengers continued on in another aircraft. we'll talk with one of them coming up in our 8:00 a.m. hour. meanwhile, time for a check of this morning's weather

headlines. rob marciano with a look at what's in store for the weekend for folks out there. hey, rob. >> hey, guys, the eastern half or at least the northeast taking a bit of a break to recharge the weather battery. relatively quiet weather right now. temperatures in the 30s and 40s as you start out the day. a little bit of snow moving upstate. that is it there. a little bit of disturbance in the upper midwest. and this will be the storm track for the next three or four days until next week. and even so right now, a little bit of wind expected in chicago. 30 to 60-minute delays expected there. san francisco may receive some delays because of the western half of the country's enduring some storms, and that will be the case through the weekend. portland, seattle, down the to san francisco, rain today, some wind, some higher elevations snows. more about that and the big changes on the way for next week for the eastern half of the country. we'll see you guys in about 30 minutes. >> you can't leave us hanging like that. what kind of changes? >> well, with the storminess out

west, may eventually be tracking east. >> you're talking snow? >> for some. john, we've got to keep them tuned in here. >> can we disinvite rob? >> to what? >> to the party here? mr. snow? >> i doubt it's going to snow in new york city, but we'll talk about those chances. >> thanks, rob. coming up, getting nato troops out of afghanistan, president obama and the nato allies will try to formalize a handover program at the summit. cnn heroes bring the chilean miners and their own heroes to los angeles and with them as they get their first taste of hollywood. how facebook could be hazardous to your health. keep your inhaler handy if you're keeping tabs on your ex. it's ten minutes after the hour. ♪ express yourself

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it's 12 minutes after the hour, 13 minutes now. president obama in portugal this morning for the nato summit. air force one touching down in lisbon in the past half hour. the combat mission in afghanistan will be a top priority with the president trying to reassure european allies that the conflict is winding down. our chris lawrence is live in lisbon this morning with a look at what's ahead for the president and certainly one of the big things that's going to be talked about is the hand-over in afghanistan.

and this comes after president bush says he believes the allies were reluctant about being involved in the war and weren't really pulling their weight. >> reporter: and they're still reluctant. a lot is going to be riding on this. and john you talked about winding down, even as that message goes out, there's another message going out to the afghan government, which is we hope to end combat operations by 2014, but we expect to have a u.s. presence there well beyond that. so if you're sitting at home thinking that, you know, massive amounts of u.s. troops and officials are going to be pulling out of afghanistan, they are going to be there for some time to come. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton talked about this just about an hour or two ago here in lisbon. >> on the beginning of a transition to afghan security starting next year. with the intention and goal of turning over afghan security to the government and people of

afghanistan in 2014. at the same time, there will be a continuing commitment of civilian support of training and other ancillary activities that will enable the security situation in afghanistan to be sustainable. >> reporter: so how are they going to get to 2014? last night, a senior official told me that the goal coming out of lisbon is to get president karzai to sign some sort of agreement, which would lay out some benchmarks to get to the end of combat operations hopefully by 2014. they're also revising the protocol by which they would turn over certain provinces from nato control to afghan control and by revising, that basically means lowering expectations. the phrase that's been tossed around is afghan good enough. so maybe you wanted it to be

here, but hey, if it's down there and it's good enough, it could be handed over. john? >> at the same time, chris, there's also talk of a complete makeover of nato. what would that look like? >> publicly you're going to hear that lot of speeches over the next day or two about this new mission for nato. taking it well beyond just defending europe from the old soviet union, which was the mission. and now talking about 21st century threats, piracy, cyber terrorism, well beyond europe. that's publicly. the reality is, more than half of the nato members are cutting their defense budgets and, again, this goes back to afghanistan. we're being told a lot of this hinges on how well nato does in afghanistan. if afghanistan is seen as a big success, some of these nato countries are much more likely to embrace this new role around the globe. if afghanistan fails, these

already wary allies are going to be much less likely to fund this kind of venture going forward. >> all right. chris lawrence for us in lisbon, portugal at the nato summit. thanks so much. kiran? when we last saw the 33 chilean miners live on our show yesterday, their family members, they were all in hartsfield/jackson airport, getting ready to catch a connecting flight to los angeles. this morning, they're waking up in l.a. they brought the group to america as special guests for cnn heroes the all-star tribute. our gary tuchman is traveling with the miners and an inside look at their whirlwind visit so far. >> reporter: the 33 chilean miners and five rescuers and their families traveled for 13 hours today from santiago to atlanta to hollywood to get here. now they're out partying. we're in a double-decker bus. most of these people have never left chile before. now they are touring hollywood, having a great time.

este bien? >> yeah! >> reporter: chile! chile! all right. you can see they're all here to have a good time. that makes us very happy. just remember, it was just last month that they were under ground. now here they are having a great time in southern california and attending our heroes program which airs on thanksgiving night. it's wonderful to be part of the story. this is gary tuchman, cnn, in hollywood. >> they look like they're enjoying themselves. >> what a remarkable trip they're having. as gary said, most of them have never been out of chile before and of course they land in los angeles. kind of like, wow, what do we do know? >> a lot of them still have their oakleys on. well, as we mentioned, the miners will be on hand to see who will be named the next cnn

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morning talker time. and it is a boy. it means the name game can begin. the zoo in atlanta's veterinary team finally got a chance to examine a panda cub born 16 days ago. takes them a while before they can determine the sex, but it's a boy, tipping the scales at 11 ounces. the only panda born at a u.s. zoo this year. well, for the past month, she's been a human exhibit at the science and industry. she won a contest to spend an entire month 24/7 living at the museum. you win a contest to do something like that? >> that sounds fun. >> she's going home today, she says nights at the museum are not as quiet as you think. of course we know that because we saw the movie. it's cheaper than space tourism, and what a thrill, it is the world's fastest roller coaster.

there it is opening at ferrari world in abu dhabi. built from the same technology that propels fighter planes from aircraft carriers. it launches you from 0 to 150 miles per hour in under five seconds, pulling an incredible 4.8 gs off at the start. >> so these catapult to get your going? >> no way, i think my days of enjoying roller coasters that fast are over. >> oh, come on. bump it up a little. a warning for facebook users with asthma, don't face stalk your ex because it could be hazardous to your health. an 18-year-old's asthma attacks were triggered by seeing his ex in pics with other guys. >> isn't facebook responsible for all of the evils of the world? >> i guess so. it seems like that late lly. now may be the time to negotiate for a raise. we're going to tell you why it

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♪ 27 minutes after the hour. and christine romans is minding your business this morning with news about unemployment benefits. and the currently employed may be starting to -- >> they're -- >> looking for greener pastures. >> first to the unemployment benefits. the house yesterday failed to pass an extension of jobless benefits. a lot of you have been asking us about this. am i going to continue to get a jobless check? at least for now, the house has let this be, unless they take it up again or it gets somehow

buckled into, packaged into an extension of the tax cuts for the middle class, this thing is dead for now. that means 4 million people will roll off their unemployment benefits in the near future. that's got a lot of big implications for the recovery. at the same time, bosses beware, because those of you who have a job, you are restless, and john says you're looking for greener pastures. again and again, we're seeing surveys that shows people are very -- their satisfaction on the job is basically at record lows. and that means when the economy starts to percolate again, they're going to be looking to get out and find a new job. so bosses, you need to treat your employees right. and here's how employees can take advantage of that. first of all, ask to take on more responsibilities. if you are at work and you think you want to be moving forward, ask to take on responsibilities, don't brag about your successes, but make sure your boss knows about your results on the job. now, you might be able to even go in there and ask for a raise. how would that feel?

more and more employees are -- employers are saying they are going to be open to raises next year. some 31% say they'll be giving raises in 2011 because they want to keep the good employees. so research your salary range with hr online. a raise lasts you all year and then your next salary is pegged on that, not on a bonus. also, if they're not going to give you a raise or a bonus, look for some other perks, vacation days, flexible hours, tuition reimbursement. a lot of times companies can't give you the number because they're trying to cut costs or they simply can't, but they might be able to give you little perks elsewhere. >> good advice. a lot of the reason why, people because of the tight economy taking jobs that maybe they felt they were overqualified for or were overqualified for. and also layoffs of people who kept their job are doing the jobs of their fellow co-workers laid off. >> that's why people are so dissatisfied on the job because they're doing more work, seen

all of these positions frozen around them. but as the economy starts to get a little better, and it is. and especially for those top 20%, the people who are the top 20% performers, there's actually a war for talent there right now. you are in a position to move. >> we've got great perks here. >> coffee cup? >> that's where i got this swell mug. i can get you one too. coming up after the half hour. what could be a new lead and potentially a huge break in the case of natalee holloway. tests are being done on a jawbone that was found on the beach. holloway's father says a forensic scientist said the bone is from a human female. there's also video of holloway's mother pleading with joran van der sloot to finally come clean about what happened. president obama's in portugal this morning attending the nato summit. the president and european allies will try to formalize plans for turning over security duties to the kabul government by 2014. the president will also meet

with afghan president hamid karzai. charlie rangel pleaded for mercy, but in the end, the 2010 congressman from new york did not get it. the ethics committee voting 9 to 1 to censure rangel for 11 violations. the full house takes up the committee's recommendations some time after thanksgiving. well, mind each wedding is, of course, a delicate logistical dance. you have to nail down the date, then the place, then the dress. the politics of where people are seated. well, now imagine the pressure of planning a royal wedding. that's kate middleton's life right now. she was spotted scouting out westminster abby yesterday. with me now is hugo vickers. thanks so much for joining us this morning, hugo. >> it's a pleasure. >> as we said, kate spotted leaving westminster abbey.

talk to us about that church and why they might pick it. >> well, it's definitely the most obvious choice. very much what you might call the royal church in london. it comes under the jurisdiction of the queen rather than the archbishop. and if i tell you that virtually every english king since william the conquerer has been crowned there. including henry the vii was buried there. and of course, there was the funeral of diana took place there in 1997. it has a lot going for it. >> would that be one of the reasons they might want to do it elsewhere because of the fact that princess diana had her funeral there. >> it could go either way, couldn't it? i would have thought in a way if you think of a church, it's a place you go for happy occasions and sad occasions and important occasions and that sort of thing. i don't think that would play against westminster abby.

i think st. paul's cathedral is the other possibility is really in a way too big. westminster abby also has a feeling of intimacy, which is rather special. >> and they talk about it being a nice route for a procession from westminster abby to buckingham palace. because this will be a made-for-tv event seen around the world just as his parents' was back in 1982. >> yes, absolutely. an absolutely prescribed processional route. then they would come back to buckingham palace and make an appearance and many crowds and indeed many television watchers can see them on the balcony and wonder whether they're going to kiss each other or not. >> 1981, actually, but that was a long time ago and most of us remember it like yesterday. one of the other issues is the date. they said it was going to be 2011. a lot of talk about whether it would be spring or late summer. do we know any more about what needs to be considered when they decide on a date?

>> well, there are certain considerations that have to be taken into account. it's not going to be on the 10th of june. i would think in july when most of the royal weddings take place because then they have the whole of august for the honey moon. and i don't think it'll be in august because the palace is open to the publicment it could, of course, been in april or the beginning of may. a lot of it depends on the weather. we have a very lovely climate, but a little unreliable. it's a little more reliable in july. i'd probably be proved to be totally wrong, but i'd say westminster abby toward the end of july. >> well, you put up a good case for july. that brings up the next question of how lavish this is going to be. this is the wedding of the century for britain, but then they're dealing with a recession, they don't want to appear to be too grand and opulent. how do they balance that?

>> well, i think we see the benefits of a royal wedding, however much they spend on it will be enormous. let's face it, people are going to come flocking into london, it's going to be a huge boost to the nation, everybody's going to be very excited. it's a great morale boost generally. so i hope they will do it as well as ever. carriage procession so we can see them. we do this thing, treatmently well in britain. having said that, i think there'll be a strong emphasis on the personal commitment between the two getting married. and although there'll be many demands, many people who have to be invited, i think that's something to the fore on this occasion. it's clearly a love match, it's not a political thing. they know each other very ll. >> and hugo -- >> they're excited like most young couples to marry. >> and you talk about the royal protocol, looks like she's not taking up full-time royal duties, but also not going to continue working in her family business. that's fueling speculation that

they're getting started on a family straight away. >> well, it would be a lovely thing if another generation of the royal family joined the queen who celebrates her diamond jubilee in 2012. how lovely it would be for me who like to see lots of generations of the queen to see not only a son but a grandson and also another generation in her reign. >> hugo vickers, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> great grandma, wouldn't that be something. still to come, gm's incredible turn around. was it all worth it? carol costello with a gut check just ahead.

40 minutes past the hour right now. well, general motors is back. gm stock began trading on wall street again yesterday, allowing the corporate icon to repay some of its $50 billion government bailout. >> but, there's a growing divide between wall street, washington, and main street in detroit over who should get paid first. aren't they always arguing about that. our carol costello live from washington this morning. with an "a.m. gut check." good morning, carol. >> good morning, john. good morning, kiran. if you ask the united auto union how gm failed so spectacularly, it accepts some of the blame. both gm and the union lost sight of providing for you, the consumer. it was all about how much money each side could make. now they say that's changed and gm may be on its way to profitability. but there's a looming question. if gm continues to prosper, should workers who gave up salary and benefits profit too?

a gut check this morning. management and unions standing together at the new york stock exchange as the new general motors goes public. it truly is a new day, not only for gm, but for -- now don't laugh, bipartisanship. united auto workers president bob king. >> we understand to be globally competitive, we have to work together. and what's exciting about this, there's so much division and partisanship in america, here's labor and business and government all working together to keep jobs in america. >> reporter: to accomplish that, thousands of uaw workers retired early, wages for senior workers are frozen at about $28 an hour while new hires now make 50% less, $14 an hour, or about $30,000 a year. fat pension plans are gone for new employees, they now

contribute to 401(k)s. for union workers, the cuts have been painful, some feel betrayed by union leaders. >> they're breaking us apart. >> reporter: still the uaw accepted the cuts and gm's ceo credited them. >> it's inspirational how good the company has come out of this. and it's largely because of the employee base. >> reporter: if gm continues to prosper, it's projected to make $5 billion to $6 billion in profits this year, should employees prosper to? it's a valid question. negotiations on a new union contract start next year. >> we're paying competitive rates. so it's going to be a success-based pay structure is what we strive for, like you do in most businesses. >> reporter: for the union, that sounds promising. its goal is to share in the company's up side while helping the auto industry remain viable. >> it's a different world we're in. and top management in general motors recognizes you've got to

work together every day. and when there's an up side, workers have to share in that up side, and we will. >> that means no more union concessions. the immediate goal for both sides is repaying taxpayers and keeping gm in business. so the question for you this morning, if companies become profitable, at what point should workers profit too? now, keep in mind, economists say even if your company is healthy, it's unlikely you'll get any substantial raise as long as the unemployment rate remains high. there's no incentive for any company when 100 people are standing in line for your job. cnn.com/amfix, please weigh in on our blog, cnn.com/amfix. >> well, we're going to eagerly await what people say about this one. because a lot of people have an opinion on it. it is a story we covered in the wake of our financial meltdown, and a lot going on with that still. >> and frankly, people have a poor opinion of unions. it'll be interesting to see what people say this morning. >> carol, thanks so much. and 43 1/2 minutes after the

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46 minutes past the hour. time for a check of the weekend weather headlines. rob marciano teased us last hour about the potential of -- i don't know -- some changes, aka snow somewhere. what's going on? >> these changes are going to be slow. i think we'll get through most of the weekend with relatively tranquil weather. it is chilly, temperatures upper 30s, lower 40s. a little bit of snow showers trying to cut through the finger lakes and parts of upstate new york, maybe getting into the cat skills. and similarly quiet across the midwest, although this storm is trying to crank up a little, i see. you can see that, as well, across michigan, temperatures here cold enough for snow, but this system relatively weak. it will create some wind, though. 30 to 60-minute delays across chicago. san francisco, that's the other main player as far as travel delays because of the weather. we've got a pretty decent storm out there. continued snows across parts of

the northwest and the sierras could see 2 to 3 feet of snow before the weekend is done. and that storminess and troughiness is going to be headed our way. into early next week, we'll start out warm in the eastern half of the country. anywhere from minus 10 to 40 degrees below average across the northwest. and that air and associated storminess will track along this storm track as we get through monday, tuesday, wednesday, and into thursday. big travel day across the midwest. we could be looking at some issues in the form of a wintery mix and through chicago up through minneapolis, mixture of ice and snow, and then that storm getting into the northeast, although i don't think in new york we'll see a tremendous amount of snow. you go upstate, we could be looking at lake effect snow for thanksgiving. so, for some folks, it could be a little bit of snow . we'll update that as we go forward. john and kiran, back to you. >> it's the start of the holiday season, might as well have snow, right? >> that's right.

exclusive new video of natalee holloway's mother face-to-face with joran van der sloot pleading for information about her missing daughter. and five years later, there could be a big break in the search. the latest from aruba coming up at the top of the hour. and the "don't touch my junk" movement. some airports considering a congressman's call to ditch the tsa, but is that the safest move? and the man cave where manly men go to be manly. so why do women want in? those stories and more coming your way at the top of the hour. between those things, i'm on the road usually about 150 days a year. i'm blessed to have two different careers. and how do i balance it?

it's a matter of just, you know, looking at the books and saying, okay, i can do these programs and do a recording session here. when i'm touring, i'm always looking for places to be outdoors. and so i'll carry a book with state parks or national parks. i'm a musician, so when it comes to gadgets and gizmos, i carry a digital recording device, my iphone, my mac computer, those have very important to me. it's like a puzzle to me when you're packing. that rolled up t-shirt will fit right in there. i always roll up my shirts, they tend to stay nice and tight that way. ready to roll, baby.

coming up now at six minutes till the top of the hour, it's time for the moos news of the morning. >> critics call it groping, and they've been griping about it quite loudly. some are voicing their displeasure in song. here's jeannie. >> reporter: not since monica lewinski has there been such sexy talk in public. >> having people feeling their underwear. >> feels up my wife in front of everyone! >> reporter: but all of this feeling up has left some feeling down. ♪ i don't like the tsa >> reporter: jonathan is known for creating a song a day. ♪ before they grope me, which is not okay ♪ >> one man's pat-down, is another man's grope. >> this pat-down.

>> grope down. >> groping your junk. >> advance pat-down. >> i have had my love pats. >> when they grope me, i'm going to say, do i get a lap dance with this? >> reporter: only on saturday night live, this old skit feels new. >> and now i'm going to use the front of my hand. just security procedure, sir, and the last thing i need to do is search the inside of your mouth with my mouth. >> reporter: taiwanese animators have given the controversy their special twist, noting the passengers who refuse a scan can get a private pat-down. and concluding that no one knows how far security measures will eventually go. but look where they've already gone. >> the product is called flying pasties. >> reporter: rubber shields you insert under your clothes to hide your private parts for

women and men. >> which one does your man wear? >> reporter: they come with one-liners like objects are larger than they appear. just hiding my junk, and even the fourth amendment protecting against unreasonable searches. in a skype interview from thailand, flying pasty spokesman mike francis says he thinks tsa agents can read the one-liners on their scanners through your clothes. they'd pull you out for special attention because that would look like the underwear bomber because you have these pasties on. >> our advice is to say something i'm wearing something called the flying pasty. and i just want to maintain my dignity. >> reporter: dignity, i was groped by the tsa and all i got this lousy t-shirt. we've entered the age of the audacity of grope. jeannie moos, cnn, new york. >> leave it to the internet. >> i like the t-shirt. i was groped by the tsa and all

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good morning to you. happy friday. it's november 19th. glad you're with us on this "american morning," i'm kiran chetry. >> and here are this morning's top stories. the natalee holloway case is heating up again this morning. we have new exclusive videotape of her mother face-to-face with joran van der sloot. pleading with him once and for all for the truth saying i can't close the book. and possible new forensic evidence which was found on an aruba beach. we're live on the island with the very latest this morning. something you certainly don't want to see at 34,000 feet, a cracked windshield in the cockpit of the 737. some tense moments for passengers with the pilot who was forced to make an emergency landing. one of them captured that photo

of the windshield. and ditch the tsa. that's the order from a florida congressman calling on the nation's busiest airports to replace their federal employees with private security guards. what does that mean for your security? also, awaiting the royal details. when and where will kate middleton marry her prince? the couple is said to be close to making an official announcement about the nuptials. new information in the case of natalee holloway. after all of these years, what could be a huge break in the case. she vanished in aruba five years ago, 2005, the prime suspect joran van der sloot in jail in peru and accused of murdering another woman. right now, dutch investigators are looking at a jawbone with a tooth found at a beach in aruba. also new this morning, dna testing underway. and we're awaiting results to see if that jaw fragment turns out to be natalee holloway's. and a surreal meeting that

took place between natalee holloway's mom and joran van der sloot, the prime suspect in the case. this is exclusive videotape of a conversation released to nancy grace on our sister network hln. take a look. >> you can sit here for the rest of your life and i can sit here for the rest of my life. you can make some choices here, joran. you have your whole life ahead of you. and i want to know what happened and i want to know why. i want to move on in my life. and i cannot close the book. and i feel as if we've lost your father, we've lost another young girl. joran, you don't need to lose your life, you're in prison, and be sitting here when you're 60 years of age and insisting to me that you don't know what happened. if it was an accident, tell me. you know, i don't know.

i don't know, but i'm here. >> it's very hard for me to talk to you. it's really not easy. i'm doing my best -- i know you have a very good heart. i know that for a fact. and i don't know if you would mind just giving me some -- i really have been thinking a lot, just giving me some time to think and i promise you even if you give me your address, i will write you. >> jean casarez is on the telephone with us from aruba. and what an extraordinary piece of videotape that is, jean. the mother of the murdered woman in a jail with the fella she believes killed her daughter and she's talking to him so calmly, just pleading for information. >> it's amazing, isn't it? and this is all taking place at castro castro, one of the most maximum security prisons in the world. and you can tell she wants answers. but you can also tell she is

being very, very -- i don't want to say calculated, but she's saying what she says for a purpose because all the psychological testing that has been done on van der sloot in peru, and believe me, he's had numerous tests since he was arrested. but they all say he loves to have the attention focused on him, centered on him, he doesn't like altercation. because if there's an altercation, then his temperament can change, and he can have violent ten tendysdencn he doesn't get his way. >> he is in this prison because he's in custody related to another murder that took place there. he's not been charged in the natalee holloway case. but it makes you wonder, how was she has able to get in there and be able to talk to this murder suspect? >> reporter: right, well, the journalist she was with said everything was above board. they knew they were coming, knew they were coming in with cameras, and the only thing they were told was that they couldn't

discuss the flores case. and van der sloot says, look, i was just told five minutes here. maybe he was told she was there. his attorney is saying, look, my client was forced to talk with beth holloway, and there has been an investigation ongoing. and just recently the guards were suspended, even the director of the prison for allowing it. >> we talked about this other piece of forensic -- potential piece of forensic evidence. this jawbone discovered on the beach. it's now gone to the netherlands for dna testing. what do we know about that? >> reporter: well, everybody here in aruba is on the edge of their seats waiting to find out what this is. now, it was tourists, two tourists from massachusetts that found it on the beach, took it to their hotel here, and then it got in the hands of police. and forensic investigators looked at it first in aruba, which i think is very interesting and could be significant because they believe

that it is, number one, a human jaw, that of a caucasian young female, and the investigators are doing the final analysis and will have the definitive answers on if this could be at all natalee holloway. >> i know you're going to keep following the story. and just a programming reminder, don't miss jean casarez on "in session" on trutv. also new this morning, another mine rescue unfolding. on new zealand's coast. after an explosion. two survivors were able to get out on their own and they say they lost communication with the others. there were concerns about a gas build-up, so far kept rescuers from entering the mine shaft, which is said to be up to a mile and a half long. passengers forced to sweat it out when the passengers in a delta jet announced there's a crack in the windshield. we have to make an emergency

landing. it did land safely in dallas last night. the cause of the crack, a mystery. we'll talk live with the park who snapped this photo live in our next hour. and president obama is in lisbon, portugal this morning. afghanistan will top the agenda. the goal is to hand over security to the afghan government in 2014. well, there is a showdown looming on capitol hill over tax cuts. vice president biden digging in his heels last night on "larry king live" when asked about the issue. here's a listen. >> now, are you going to extend the bush tax cuts? >> well, look, i'll tell you -- >> for all the rich folk? >> no. let me tell you what our position is. our position is we want to permanently extend the tax cuts for middle-class people for the top 98% for the wage earners in america. the 98% of the wage earners in america. we don't think we can afford to extend permanently the tax cuts

for the top 2%. >> ed henry's live at the white house this morning with more on joe biden's interview. who blinks first? because unfortunately the way it's going, you can't separate the two, you have to decide to extend them or not. and that would include the wealthiest americans. >> you're right. and i think biden laid out the most likely compromise of all. house democrats sort of positioning themselves and say we're going to have a vote as you suggested on permanently extending the middle class tax cuts and that's it. and let the republicans push for tax cuts for the rich. then you have republicans on the other side saying, look, we want to permanently extend for everybody, the middle class, rich, et cetera. i think what the vice president laid out to larry king is the most likely scenario in the end. after all the posturing, it's likely you'll see the middle class tax cuts extended permane permanently. that's the most likely scenario. i think the vice president was laying out the middle ground.

>> also sarah palin was brought up on the show last night. let's take a listen to that. >> sarah palin is apparently now confirmed that she's thinking about running for president. how does that make joe biden think? >> well, you know -- i -- look, i think sarah palin's turned out to be and she is a real force in the republican party. >> what do you think of her? >> well, i like her. no, no, i personally like her. if you met her, she's an appealing person. when we campaigned -- we debated -- there was not a harsh word. we have a fundamentally different outlook on the world. and i think that would be a really -- a really interesting race. >> would that be a race you'd like to take on? >> well, you know, my mom used to have an expression, be careful what you wish for, joe, you may get it. so i never underestimate anyone. but i think in that race it

would be a clear, clear choice for the country to make. and i believe president obama would be in very good shape. >> there you go. he's pretty candid about it. he says she's a nice person. you remember famously, can i call you joe and the wink when they debated. >> well, look, the bottom line, this is the essence of joe biden. when he gets into trouble, there'll be a gaffe. but more often what happens is he gives you the unvarnished truth. i've heard plenty of people inside this white house say -- sort of laugh at the prospect of sarah palin in suggesting, look, if she's the candidate and the nominee in 2012, there'll be a polarized election and president obama will win. but in the next breath, he was honest saying, a lot of people have underestimated her before. and be careful what you wish for. you know, he was pointing that out. and i think that's right. a lot of democrats believe this would be a slam dunk reelection victory for the president if he

faces sarah palin. but it might not be as easy as democrats think, kiran. >> when he said be careful what you wish for, i thought he was saying that to republicans who may choose her as the nominee. >> i think if you read the fact that he's suggesting that, look, i like her, she's a likable person, she could connect with the american people. he did point out in the end it could be a clear choice and president obama would be reelected, but it might not be a slam dunk that a lot of democrats think. she is somebody who a lot of people who had predicted two years ago she would already be out of the sweepstakes. who knows where this will end up in two years. >> it'll be fun to watch for sure. thanks, ed. good to see you. >> yeah, remember back in 2000 when the predictions were that vice president al gore was going to mop the floor with george bush. >> yeah. and in 2008, they -- a lot of people said this is going to be a match-up between rudy giuliani and hillary clinton. it's set. >> and like joe biden said,

you've got to be careful what you wish for if you're a democrat. what might seem like the easiest race now could turn out to be the toughest one. let's get a quick check of this morning's weather headlines. rob marciano in atlanta. >> i remember last year when folks in d.c. and baltimore were just wishing for a little bit more snow. they felt like they got ripped off the past few years. >> they stopped wishing. >> exactly. be careful what you wish for. so if you're looking for a white christmas, be careful what you wish for. we'll talk more about that forecast. in the meantime, we've got thanksgiving to tackle. the eastern half of the country dealing with tranquil weather. that's good news, temps in the 30s and lower 40s to start your day. couple of light snow showers and sprinkles, mainly away from the larger cities. and that includes detroit, chicago, minneapolis, little storm system picking up moisture there. temps in the 30s, and it'll be windy in chicago. and because of that, maybe some travel delays at o'hare.

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15 minutes after the hour, we're just six days away from thanksgiving now. one of the busiest travel holidays of the year. and the outrage is growing over the airport security measures. john mika wrote a letter to the 100 busiest airports urging them to ditch the tsa and use private screeners instead. isn't that how we got into this

whole thing? he says it's the only way to make travelers feel more comfortable. the tsa chief john pistole insists the pat-downs are haul in the name of safety. >> what do airports do about the outrage? christine romans with more on this. i don't know if they realize when they approved these enhanced pat-downs, what an uproar this would cause, and it has. >> it has. and you've got executives of many airports saying, look how we do it, we do it better. so this is -- this is what's happening here. what can be done about it? do you fire the tsa? get new technology? well, in boston, the full body scans is going to be replaced by a stick figure that shows the area of the body with an anomaly and that can be examined further later down. >> it's a picture of you and they turn it into a stick figure image. >> it's the g-rated version of what you're seeing right now.

for example, a cell phone, a belt, or a watch, the scanners should be up and running by late winter. and they hope it speeds up the process altogether. others are considering private screening going back to the future with private screeners. orlando's second largest airport is in the district. could begin switching to the process of private screeners. and they still have to meet all of the tsa guidelines. but what critics say is that private industry may be able to be more responsive to concerns than a huge blow to the government bureaucracy, which is what critics say it is. and also private screeners would have to do pat-downs when necessary. but executives from orlando, they studied private screenings in new york, jacksonhole, wyoming. there are 16 airports with their own private screenings. they do not use the tsa. some officials say those services have been more responsive than other airports where there is the tsa because if the private screeners aren't

doing a good job, they ditch them and get a new company, a new contractor. >> it's so typical for travelers to understand. it's the private screeners the problem in the first place, which is why the tsa was created. now they're saying no, the private screeners are better? >> the air travel experience has been rotten for about ten years. and first we blamed the private screeners and what was happening after september 11th, and now they're blaming the new government bureaucracy. so it is really interesting. but some of these small airports, jacksonhole, rochester, do not use tsa screeners. and some of those executives are saying it's been working out fine for them without the tsa screeners. they have not had these big problems. >> we'll see where this goes. >> we'll see. >> thanks, christine. >> thanks. the list of things you can't bring to the airport gets longer every year, but go ahead and bring your cigarettes. because chances are you'll find somewhere to smoke them. 1 in 4 major american airports

lets travelers light up inside the building. here's the list. atlanta, dfw, denver, vegas, charlotte, dulles, and salt lake city. but the center for disease control says those dedicated smoker lounges in the terminals aren't doing enough to protect millions of travelers from the dangers of secondhand smoke. our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins us this morning from atlanta. what does the cdc want these airports to do? >> it's simple. they want these airports to get rid of these smoking areas. they want airports to be smoke-free inside and outside. the cdc says the people have actually measured the air outside of these lounges, the places where you and i and everybody else has to walk. and you can find the toxins and carcinogens from the smoke outside of the lounges. so they said get rid of the smoking altogether. >> i spend an awful lot of time at the atlanta airport and most times you can't smell anything coming from the lounges, but every once in a while it

permeates the entire terminal building, the concourse. how is it a big deal? >> well, you know what, john the cdc tells us that 10% leaks out. so you could have a great ventilation system and still you get about 10% leakage. and i'm with you, i'm also a frequent visitor to the atlanta airport. i must say i don't really notice it when i walk by it. but what doctors tell me, you may not notice it, but you're breathing it in. >> it looks bizarre when you see the people inside that fog of cigarette smoke. are the airports listening, though? will they be done away with? >> no, they're not listening. we've called the atlanta airport and they say, look, we have these smoking rooms for a reason. and let me read you what they had to say. the smoking lounges eliminate the need for passengers wishing to smoke to exit and reenter the secured areas. so they basically say it would be a pain in the neck for smokers to have to leave and come back.

>> the other thing i find is strange is if you're standing outside the airport on your way in, you're in a cloud of smoke. >> when you pass through. >> no, when you're outside and everybody's standing out there smoking. it almost seems that's worse to inhale than the enclosed enclosure. >> and kiran, you're right. they are talking about smoking areas inside and outside, the cdc says there should be no smoking in or out. when you're sitting there waiting for a taxi or your ride and you've got people around you smoking, you're kind of stuck and that's almost worse than being inside sometimes. >> elizabeth cohen for us, interesting, thanks. well, there has been a breach. men now allowing their wives into the man kacave. >> do you have a man cave? >> no. >> i guess in new york city, you should call that a closet. >> dude, what's going on here? they've come a long ways since a dingy basement, these man caves. the reason women want in. >> of course, i said there's

guys and beer in there, what woman doesn't want in? >> everything a woman could want, right? well, few athletes in the world. most americans wouldn't know this guy if they ran into him. why you should be totally stoked about pro-surfer kelly slater. 22 minutes past the hour.

25 minutes past the hour. morning talker time. we love this one. the women suffering from cave envy. fully stocked bar, flat-screen tv, a tricked out garage. some of them apparent lly over $100,000 worth of man stuff. so why aren't wives allowed in? well, the "wall street journal" says they're becoming so fancy and mysterious that wives do want in now and the guys are allowing this. we saw a pink football jersey in one. so times are a changing. >> and unfortunately the guys out in the parking lot for the tailgate, as well, because the women have the man cave. what a thrill it is.

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show, it was amazing. >> didn't she give everybody a car? >> she gave everyone a car and then people were griping about the taxes. and then she gave everyone a car and then paid the taxes. she gave a cruise once. hey, people want to get in on that. >> the only thing i ever won in my entire life, a frozen turkey. >> we could get you one in an hour. >> it's not winning it. winning it makes all the difference. >> oprah says there's going to be paramedics on standby, by the way, because some people get so excited. well, jake gyllenhaal and anne hathaway on the cover of "entertainment weekly." and in the article they opened up about how they got in the mood for their film, for their on-film love-making. an r-rated dramatic comedy called "love and other drugs." they were also husband and wife in "brokeback mountain," however, they didn't have as many love scenes. >> pretty provocative cover, isn't it?

>> yes. more states are allowing liquor sales on sunday to help shrink budget deficits. general motors running on wall street again. president obama says it's proof the gamble has paid off. but who will get paid? the blue-collar workers who sacrificed to keep the country afloat? or will the federal government get paid back first? time for an a.m. gut check about gm. [ diane lane ] when you were 14 we helped keep your skin clear. now we have a solution for wrinkles. neutrogena anti wrinkle with retinol sa smoothes even deep wrinkles. it works...beautifully. neutrogena.

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isn't it? gets you in the mood for the weekend. half past the hour. natalee holloway's family now awaiting on the results of forensic tests to see if a jawbone that was found on a beach in aruba belongs to their daughter. holloway, as you remember, disappeared five years ago in aruba. natalee's dental records have been sent away for a dna comparison for an optical comparison with the new evidence. well, something way, way out there. astronomers have for the first time identified a planet that originated outside of our galaxy. they say the planet known as hip13044 is as big as jupiter and was drawn into the milky way, perhaps as many 9 billion years ago. more states are now permitting the sale of alcohol on sundays as a way of generating revenue. since 2002, 14 states have done away with so-called blue laws. in all, 36 states allow sunday

sales of distilled spirits. also, buy a hyundai, get an eye patch. it comes fully loaded with an interactive with an ipad. it'll be equipped with a 16-gigaby 16-gigabyte, it'll cost just under $59,000 to have one in your garage. >> so they're putting an ipad in a car and we're sort of trying to persuade people not to text and drive? >> yeah. maybe you can only use it if you're in park. >> there's an interface like a lockout. that'll be interesting. well, an american morning gut check. who will get to share in general motors' wealth if the company continues to grow. >> it's a big question this morning. carol costello joins us live from washington. >> hi, kiran, if you ask the united auto workers union how gm failed so spectacular, it accepted some of the blame. i talked to uaw president bob

king who said both the union and gm lost sight of providing for the consumer. now they say that's changed. and gm is on its way to profitability. but there's a looming question. if gm continues to prosper, should workers who gave up salary and benefits profit too? a gut check this morning. >> reporter: management and union standing together at the new york stock exchange as the new general motors goes public. it truly is a new day. not only for gm, but for -- now don't laugh -- bipartisanship. united autoworkers president bob king. >> we understand to be globally competitive, we have to work together. and what's exciting about this, there's so much division and partisanship in america. here's labor and business and government all working together to keep jobs in america. >> reporter: to accomplish that, thousands of uaw workers retired

early. wages for senior workers are frozen at about $28 an hour. while new hires now make 50% less, $14 an hour or about $30,000 a year. fat pension plans are gone for new employees. they now contribute to 401(k)s. for union workers, the cuts have been painful, some feel betrayed by union leaders. >> they're breaking us apart. >> reporter: still the uaw accepted the cuts and gm's ceo credited them and increased the worker creativity for his company's resurgence. >> it's inspirational how good the company has come out of this. and it's largely because of the employee base. >> reporter: if gm continues to prosper, it's projected to make $5 billion to $6 billion in profits this year. should employees prosper too? it's a valid question. negotiations on a new union contract start next year. >> we're paying competitive rates. so it's going to be a success

pay structure is what we strive for, like you do in most businesses. >> reporter: for the union, that sounds promising. its goal is to share on the company's up side while helping the auto industry remain viable. >> it's a different world we're in. and management and general motors recognizes you've got to work together every day. and when there's an up side, workers have to share in that up side, and we will. >> of course, that means no more union concessions. the immediate goal for both sides is repaying taxpayers and keeping general motors in business. so the question we're asking you this morning. if companies become profitable, not talking about any company. if it becomes profitable as we make our way out of this recession, at what point should workers profit too? cnn.com/amfix. that's cnn.com/amfix. and we've got a few comments this morning, john and kiran. would you like me to share? >> yes, share this morning. >> let me share. this is from rick, he says, yes, the workers should share in the profit, but by way of bonuses,

they should not get pay raises. this is from michael. all pay should stay frozen until every last penny is paid back to the country. and this from brian. companies coming out of debt need to be incredibly conservative and not give away all the profits right after the bat. be grateful the company you are employed with managed to survive these past few years. you know, it's interesting because wage increases are tied to the unemployment rate. so even if your company is making oodles of money, you're unlikely to get a raise because of the high unemployment rate because, of course, there are 100 people waiting for your job, at least that's what economists say. >> all right. carol costello for us this morning. a lot of food for thought. thanks. >> sure. coming up next, it's train talk. we have six guys sitting on a railroad car headed back out to long island suburbs after a long day of work in the city. and they invite jim acosta back in. and flying totally under the

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well, of course, saturday night live famously had coffee talk. and we like to call this next segment "train talk." it's all about taking the pulse of the people. six guys from new york, democrats, republicans, independents, they all ride the train to work each day and love to discuss the hot topics facing

the country. >> yesterday our jim acosta rode along as the train gang took a few politicians to task. and jim's joining us this morning again for train talk part two. and for the first time, an entry into the man cave. >> and i lived to tell the tale, which is good. as we showed you in the first piece, they relish taking on the politicians. that's one thing they do and do well. but what about the big problems of the day? the deficits and the taxes. what are we going to do about the issues? these guys have ideas and we heard about those solutions, including as you mentioned, john, the man cave. >> they've got a good one-liner on just about everything from why their taxes shouldn't go up -- >> last time i checked, i still have to cut my own lawn. >> reporter: to pro football's on-again-off-again quarterback.

six guys who take the long island railroad together every night also like to mix it up on the big issues of the day. >> i don't hear any leader of either party speaking in a rational, mature way about what has to happen. >> reporter: like what to do about the nation's out of control deficit. >> what about the bush tax cuts? would you let those expire? >> taxes have to go up. you can argue about what form, but they have to go up. >> kevin, you don't agree? >> no, not at all. start with the spending cuts first. >> well, what would you cut? >> you could cut out all of the defense budget and we would still have a $300 billion deficit. >> i would cut some of the entitlement programs. this is politically suicidal, but you can't have the budget going to medicaid, medicare, and social security. >> reporter: the republicans, democrats, and independents keeps coming back to the old-fashioned notion of shared sacrifice. >> they talk about eliminating the mortgage interest deduction, which is a quasi tax increase

and has a negative impact on the housing market, but in some form or another, you have to pay the price. >> reporter: but you can't solve all of the world's problem in a 45-minute commute. >> we're getting close to the cave. >> getting close to the cave. >> reporter: so about once a week, they finish the conversation at the man cave. a little watering hole tom had installed in his garage, where the invitation is hereby extended to president obama for one more beer summit. >> in the spirit of beer summits, i know president obama had a beer summit. he's invited to tom's cave any time and have a beer. >> we look forward to it. >> you're inviting the president to the man cave? >> that's correct. >> i just want to make sure i get that on the record. >> we can give him a ride home. >> they offered him a ride home too. so he's got it all squared away if he wants to show up. and they extended the invitation to both sides of the aisle. congressional leaders, what have you, if they want to come up to

garden city and check it out. they're perfectly happy to. and i wanted to mention something kind of serious because the cnn political unit came out with a poll yesterday on the deficit and talking about some of these ideas the deficit commission came out with like cutting new entitlements. and those findings were pretty startling. most americans would rather not tackle the deficit than have those entitlements chopped into. and what these guys were saying was something dramatically different. and that is, look, guys, we've got to put everything on the table. we've got to look at all of these ideas if we're going to get it under control. >> i'm fascinated by the man cave. where do you put the car? >> you do a lot of snow shoveling, i'm afraid, to get that car out of the driveway. and we should mention, just for the record, women and children also allowed in the man cave. i just want to point that out. >> very nice. very nice. an equal opportunity cave. >> you got it. there's a lot of talk in the house this week. congress failing to pass the

bill that would've extended the deadline for unemployment benefits. millions of americans without work may be falling from the rolls. it's a big issue and one from where there's not much common ground right now. candy crowley joins us at the top of the hour with more. and a little bit of snow falling in the northern part of the country this morning and it's moving east. the travel forecast right after the break. it's 44 minutes after the hour. if you live for performance, upgrade to castrol edge advanced synthetic oil. with eight times better wear protection than mobil 1. castrol edge. it's more than just oil.

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chicago living up to its name this morning. it's cold, 30 degrees, later on today, windy and high of 52. >> that's not that bad. >> not too bad. it's the windy part. >> it's the windy city. what are you going to do? 48 minutes past the hour right now. it's the windy city for us. what can we expect for the weekend, rob? >> more calm weather. so we're taking a bit of a break, guys, at least for the northeast. chicago as you mentioned, windy, chilly start to the day. storm system, dry, snow showers across parts of the northern great lakes. shouldn't be that big of a deal, but the winds will crank up. looking at showers and the valleys and snow up in the mountains, could see 2 feet to 3 feet of additional snowfall across the sierra nevada right through the weekend. so the colorado rockies got it, the cascades got it, and now the sierras are getting it. building up a base for ski season.

so 2/3 of the southeast and eastern third of the country looking at fairly tranquil weather. but i want to point out what's going to happen wednesday and thursday of next week. chicago, minneapolis, probably a wintery mix as we go through the holiday. i think the northeast, including the i-95 corridor should remain either dry or wet. but snowy conditions should be northwest the city across the great lakes. take that as you will as you start to plan your holiday travel. we may have some issues if you're going through the midwest, including the major hubs of minneapolis and chicago. today, though, 67 in atlanta, not too shabby. 48 degrees in new york city, and 65 in d.c. with light winds. john and kiran, back up to you. >> thanks, rob. robotic arms giving us a peek at how well our brain is working. the man who created the breakthrough technology coming up in our next hour. how it could change the lives of athletes or soldiers or anyone who has suffered a brain injury. an exclusive new video of

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seven minutes until the top of the hour right now. yep. >> rewind the tape. >> welcome back. it is now six minutes and 45 seconds to the top of the hour. if success alone were the secret to -- he would be a hero to millions. >> kelly slater can walk down

almost any street in america without being recognized. jason carroll joins us. >> try to think of any athlete either male or female that has been at the top of the game for 20 years. not you, john. you will think of someone. but you and i -- >> whoa! >> probably think of somebody before i do. >> it is too -- >> right? >> you think people know the skateboarding stars like tony hawke? >> someone does. >> i know kelly slater because he dates a lot of celebrities. not because of his actual surfing. >> but you know, when you think back the athlete part, try to think of an athlete top of the game past 20 years. >> larry hamilton. >> for the rest of us, hard pressed to try to find someone unless of course you think of the name kelly slater. in the world of sport icons there's ali, jordan, federer and

slater? >> is he somebody on cnn? >> slater? what sport? >> never heard of the guy. >> i know exactly who that is. >> who is kelly slater? >> he is a surfer. >> reporter: he is pulling into this monster barrel. he's kelly slater. >> i love surfing more than anything. since i was a little kid. it is my passion. >> kelly slater. oh, yeah. kelly slater. >> the talent lies not just in the versatility -- >> kelly slater. >> reporter: dropping into hawaii's biggest waves or ripping the smallest but also his longevity. he's still at the top of his game at 38 years old. >> how do you do it? >> keep your mind open to new and fresh ideas. when you get too set in the ways no matter what it is you seem to grow old pretty fast. you know? >> reporter: slater won the tenth world championship. some perspective. the guy who trailed him was 3 years old when slater won if

first world title at age 20 in 1992. did you think as a 20-year-old you would be surfing at 38? >> i didn't i would be competing at 38 but i said i want to be surfing when i'm 90 or -- i actually want to try to surf pipeline when i'm 90. >> forever youthful, forever stoked. got incredible desire. >> reporter: sports columnist bruce jenkins said it's time he's more of a household name. >> the fact he's done all of these things at the highest level to me he has to be regarded amonghe greatest athletes of all time and the greatest surfer. >> reporter: we met slater at the mollusk surf shop. it is really, really light. >> thank you. >> reporter: he designed the board and won the tenth world title on it. will he go for 11? >> i don't know. it's question a lot of people put to me in the last week.

i don't know. >> reporter: well, slater dedicated his world championship win to andy irons. irons died from complications from fever and he was slater's closest rival. you can see more of that interview on cnn.com/amfix. he is a great guy. >> seems to be. these surfers have a cool head about them, as well. >> i wouldn't be surprised if he goes after 11 or 12 world championship. >> good to meet him? >> yeah. great. i have to thank my producer, a surfer himself who came to the office saying we have to do this story. i said, all right. >> he is great. amazing what they can do out there on the water. >> incredible. they truly are athletes. >> great story. oh, yeah. top stories after a quick break.

-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good friday morning to you. thanks for joining, i'm john roberts. >> i'm karen chetry. we have tape of natalee holloway's mother face to face

with the person she believes killed her daughter, joran van der sloot, pleading with him for the truth once and for all saying i can't close the book. also, possible new evidence found on an aruba beach. we are live there with the latest. rejected. a bill to extend the unemployment benefits shot down in the house. 4 million jobless americans facing the prospect of falling off the rolls for good. more on that from "state of the union" host candy crowley in a minute. pat downs and the body scans, you worry about who's seeing your image. a lawmaker suggesting that we toss the tsa from our nation's busiest airports but would that really change how these procedures are conducted and can we really trust private security guards to do the job? up first this friday morning, though, new information in the case of natalee holloway. after all these years, what could be a huge break in the case. we are waiting for the results of forensic testing to see if a

jawbone that was found on a beach in aruba could belong to the alabama teen that disappeared five years ago. >> we are getting a look at a meeting that took place between her mother and joran van der sloot, the prime suspect in the case. videotape of the conversation was released recently exclusively to nancy grace on hln. here's a look. >> you can sit here for the rest of your life and i can sit here for the rest of my life. it's -- you can make some choices here, joran. and you can make the right decision. you have your whole life ahead of you. i want to know what happened and i want to move on, joran. i want to move on. you know? i want to -- you know, move on and in my life and i cannot close the book and i feel as if we've lost your father. we've lost another young girl. jor joran, you don't need to lose your life in prison and sitting

here at 60 years of age and insisting to me that you don't know what happened. if it was an accident, tell me. you know, i don't know. i don't know. but i am -- i'm here. >> i hope you can understand, also, it's very hard for me to talk to you. it's really not easy. i'll really doing my best to -- i know you have a very good heart. i know that. i know that for a fact. i don't know if you would mind just giving me some -- i really have been thinking a lot. just giving me sometime to think and i promise you even if you give me your address, i will write you. >> trutv's jean casarez on the phone with us. with this meeting, what was she hoping to achieve by the conversation? >> i think she wanted answers. and i think she wanted them caught on camera and interesting because she says to him, i know

you want to make a plea deal in peru and in aruba and the u.s. had met with prosecutors. i'm not going to do anything until i talk to her. that's a subtle threat i think right there that she can make action happen against him if he doesn't give her answers. she didn't get the answers and no confessions at all. >> yeah, the big question people might have is how did she get herself into that position and get into that prison and might any of this be admissible in a court of law? >> yes. first of all, a question of fact how they got in because the journalist she was with said it was above board, everyone knew they were coming in and they were told they couldn't discuss the current case of lima but joran van der sloot's attorney said, no, there were bribes. there was money under the table to get the cameras. coerced to come into the room.

we know an investigation is going on right now. but in regard to -- what was your second question? >> whether or not -- >> a court of law. yes, it could. it could. if you really look at this, there are some -- he admits extortion in this conversation. and he admits other wrongs that he did. so, yes, it shows a state of mind. >> hmm. this all comes at a time when there is perhaps a break in the natalee holloway case. a jawbone discovered in aruba. now, sent for testing to hague. what is the latest? >> well, let me give you the latest. i'm standing right outside of the solicitor ministerial office here and they said that they don't have any results yet. and the public information officer came out to me saying she just got off the phone with the netherlands forensic institute at the hague and they say that they're not ready at this point to release any results. they're still working on it.

but the prosecutor's office here in aruba will be making constant phone calls updates to them throughout the day today. >> jeancasarez, thank you. by the way, you can catch jean every weekday on "in session" on trutv 9:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. eastern. we're learning about the new zealand coast. 12 coal members are missing after an explosion. we have aerial video now of the scene. it is a tunnel mine running horizontally for a mile and a half. two survivors emerged on their own. they lost communication with the others and one of them managed to call for help. >> being treated for various minor injuries and i'm not sure what the extent of those are. one of the men is being interviewed and he was the one

confirmed that we have had an explosion underground. he was -- he rang the surface from underground at about ten past 4:00 and then made the way to the surface with a work mates. >> haven't given up hope at all. haven't given up hope but it's serious situation. >> concerns about a gas build-up kept rescuers from entering the mines. like the upper big branch mine in west virginia. >> i don't know if -- as you said, horizontal not completely underground and if there are survivors if it will be easier to get them out than chile. >> similar construction to the big branch mine and saw the results there. took long, long, long time to be able to get in. meanwhile, a mining -- trapped mining story with a happy ending are the 33 chilean miners underground and freed and okay and enjoying a whirlwind trip to los angeles this morning w. their family an five of the rescuers. arrived yesterday afternoon with

our own gary tuchman and met l.a.'s mayor. they also will be attending the taping of cnn "heroes." it's an all-star tribute airing on thanksgiving night. 4 million unemployed americans in jeopardy of losing the jobless benefits now. >> the house expected to take up the matter of censuring new york congressman charlie rangel after the holiday. candy crowley with us from washington this morning. good to see you, candy. so the panel voted 9-1 to censure charlie rangel. if he is, it is the first time since the early 1980s. i mean, these are really some tough times for him. >> they really are. and it -- tough to watch, i have to tell you. he was at times defiant, going into this saying, you know, the process is flawed. in the end, he talked about the things that he had done both in

his military service which was heroic as well as for his constituents. he is 80 years old. this is tough to watch. nonetheless, it was pretty overwhelming from the democratic and republican colleagues who found these ethics violations, and now, the next step is really even more painful because the house of representatives itself will vote on whether to have this censure. he stands on the house floor. people could or might come out and talk about what he's done. certainly, he will have to listen to the speaker talk about what the ethics committee found. so this is -- this is a rough one but certainly one that has had, if you will, bipartisan support on something that's difficult, clearly, for the congressman to deal with. >> yeah. and doesn't just bode well in general for the congress to have to have all that and would it be speaker pelosi doing that? >> yes. not the new congress and would be speaker pelosi.

it's very sort of solemn sight. as you say, they have done -- the ethics committee been around 40 years. that is big deal. the next step would have been expulsion. censure is huge. >> candy, david gergen was on with me last night talking about this and he pointed to joe mccarthy's censure saying that really, really broke him. charlie rangel's 80 years old. which will censuring potentially do to him? >> he was just elected by the con sit wents. when you're looking back at a career of charlie rangel in the house and in the military, this is in -- this is in the history books now and that's something that as you know always shows up in that first graph of history. it is not clearly from his remarks he made yesterday, this was not something -- he does know that this is something that does put a taint on his record. >> well, another big issue, the

unemployment benefits shot down. politically whorks's going to take the most heat for the failure of the congress to act, not extending the benefits? and for all of those people who are probably going to be having a tough time this holiday and potentially paying their mortgages and rents next year because of this? >> sure. first of all, i think it's not over yet. i mean, time is a-wasting here. they expect to leave next week. congress does. they have twice let these unemployment benefit extensions lapse. these are not for those newly-applying or those that are within the norms of how long unemployment benefits have gone. this is extensions for hard times so, you know, the question is, listen. you are listening to republicans who have come back to congress saying the american people want things paid for. they're upset about this deficit. so they say the question isn't should we extend the unemployment benefits but should we pay for them? so they still have time to work

this out. in answer to who's to blame, we're as far away from the next election as they're going to get. so if you do this, you do it now. it never looks good to walk away from the christmas holidays saying, no, we are not going to do unemployment benefits extensions. there are reasons they're not doing it. but in general, it's a very hard argument to make and have be politically popular. >> candy this morning, we can see the capitol building behind you. we have an interesting picture for the folks at home. freshman class lining up for the photograph. we'll see how they perform over the next couple of years. candy, great to see you this morning. thanks so much. >> "state of the union" sunday morning. thank you, candy. the nato sum in it portugal. president obama arrived there a couple of hours ago. the combat mission in afghanistan is going to dominate the summit's agenda. american and european allies

expected to formalize a plan for security responsibilities to be handed over to the afghans by 2014. american and nato troops will remain in afghanistan beyond the handover. rob marciano in the extreme weather center for us with a look at what we can expect weatherwise for the weekend. hey, rob. >> hey, guys. stormy weather out west again and the case for weekend, washington, oregon, california, the inner mountain west. winter storm warnings posted. cascades with almost two feet of snow and two to three feet potentially for the sierra nevadas. winter storm warnings. east toward reno or tahoe from san francisco. upper great lakes, not a lot of moisture and some winds. chilly in chicago today. temps into the 50s and breezy and a quiet start to your day across the northeast and should be relatively quiet today and windy in chicago as mentioned. sunny down in miami. 81 degrees in phoenix so a good

chunk of the country will be fairly pleasant this weekend. but the stuff that you see out west will be making an effort to get east as we get towards the holiday frafl tuesday, wednesday and thursday. we'll discuss that more in detail in 30 minutes. >> see you then, rob. thanks. might be the last thing to see in the cockpit of a 737. a huge crack in the windshield. coming up we'll talk to the passenger that took this photograph. also toss the tsa from the busiest airports. a congressman is demanding that happen. would private security be any different? would the procedures to undergo, the enhanced pat downs change? hang on to your faces. you might leave them behind. 0 to 150 in under 5 seconds. a ride on the fastest roller coaster in the world. stay with us. at northern trust, we understand...

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16 minutes past the hour right now. hydra ma high in the sky above oklahoma a. delta flight bound for orange county, california, had to be diverted immediately to dallas for an emergency landing and passengers found out why. here's a look. a crack in the 737's windshield. the co-pilot could only sit and watch as it spread throughout the glass. joining us, a passenger who snapped that dramatic photo of the damage. how did you get the picture? >> as i was walking off the plane as i walked toward the

cabin, i looked in there and i could see the spider web out there and i had a cell phone and grabbed a couple of pictures. actually, the pilot indicated that anyone who wanted to come up and take a look at what they were having to deal with could. it was -- it was pretty sobering to see the amount of damage that the crack did. i mean, the thing was spider webbed all over. >> yeah. that's the last thing to see when you're flying, for sure. i understand it the captain came on the loudspeaker saying to you guys, we are having a problem in the cockpit. the windshield's cracked and you might be facing a quick descent to get below 10,000. how worried were people when that came on? >> there was a little gasp. you know, you could hear the murmur but everybody was very intent on hearing what the captain had to say. especially, you know, when he said that we were going to need to divert dallas/ft. worth and doing a rapid descent.

our ears would start popping. >> came on a second time saying the cracks are getting bigger and not below 10,000 feet yet. sounds like they were trying to keep you in the loop. was that helpful or would you have rather landed and then found out how bad it was? >> no, no, no, no. this is what was so great about this captain, ben fink. he's a navy veteran pilot in the navy. actually, the co-pilot, also. they mentioned this when we were getting ready to take off and even joked about the fact they had so many years of flying ebs appearance so he had a very calming voice and to hear him -- i mean, he was updating us every few minutes and that was -- that was incredibly calming for the passengers. >> and did you guys find out what happened? i mean, he says there's no birds at 34,000 feet. what could have caused that crack? >> right. i asked him when i got off the

plane, we had a reception line as everybody was, you know, shaking his hand and i said, how does something like that happen? you know, at that altitude. he said, you know, he said sometimes, you know, things just happen. and, you know, we are dealing with man-made materials and, you know, i think that they do the best they can but, you know, that's what it is. >> yeah. >> you know, it's s ee's sometii think unexplained at this point but maybe the faa will have a different answer. >> probably find out more details about it but thank goodness all's well that ends well. inconvenience but you were in experienced hands. thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> yeah, well, thank you very much. i'm glad to be here. >> we're glad you're here, as well. michael was on facebook at the time and updating the status instantaneously and updates from friends about the fact he is needing to land.

they're needing to make an emergency landing with the crack. >> you can have a conversation anywhere. >> surreal. >> amazing. six days away from thanksgiving. one of the busiest travel holidays of the year and the outrage is growing over the new airport security measures. florida congressman john mica wrote a letter urging the airports to ditch the tsa and use private screeners instead saying it's the only way to make travelers feel more comfortable. secretary john pistole says it's all in the name of safety. what can airports do about the outrage? our christine romans joining us now. good morning. >> good morning. has it come to this where we seriously talk about a call to ditch the tsa after -- >> go back to the way it was before? >> when we were complaining -- all complaining about private sceners, a race to the bottom. the lowest bidder won. people on planes with knives in their shoes and stuff. this is where we are, frankly. complaints growing over the full

body scanners, pat downs. what can be done? fire the tsa? improve the technology? in boston, this is what they're doing. they're trying to improve the full-body scan situation so that, in fact, you have a g-rated system other than the borderline pornographic images you see now. it's a stick figure with blocks around the questionable area. a cell phone, a belt or a watch. the scanners should be up and running by late winter and officials hope it speeds up the whole process of boston logan's international airport and others considering private screeners. orlando's second largest airport, orlando-sanford international airport could begin the process of switching to private screeners but they have to follow tsa guidelines and hire -- approve and train the contractors. >> we'll talk with the airport manager of sanford in a few minutes. >> excellent. and pat downs and private screeners doing them.

and executives from -- let's say, sanford, they -- they explored rochester, new york, also jackson hole, wyoming. two of the 16 airport that is do not have tsa. they have private screeners there. and those 16 airports and the executives say they're just fine. they're more responsive than the tsa had been and because if they can't do the job right, there's competition. >> what about the idea of the race to the bottom and got us into the bottom in the first place and how the hijackers got through? >> worried about it being slack and now so thorough you can see your birthday suit and we feel like it's an invasion of privacy. we have really swung all the way to the other level. the question is, who can do this properly and diligently and not enrage the flying snubl. >> i think people say use -- you know, the one element that is missing a lot of the time is common sense seeing the little kids sitting on the sidelines, you know, getting -- having to

take off the little sneakers. is this the best use -- >> happens every day over and over and over again. screaming 2-year-old whose shoes and socks taken off and dragged through the -- ridiculous. but this is -- this is -- this is the way it is. >> for now. see what happens. some people are saying it could change. >> debate will continue. >> certainly will. >> thank you. oprah's final favorite things. talk of a surprise so big they need the paramedics on stand by. what could the queen of daytime talk have up her sleeve this time? >> everybody's getting a cruise ship. , not the mall. well, i'll do the shopping... if you do the shipping. shipping's a hassle. i'll go to the mall. hey. hi. you know, holiday shipping's easy with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service. if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. yea, i know. oh, you're good. good luck! priority mail flat rate shipping starts at just $4.90 only from the postal service.

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26 minutes after the hour. here's the stories that got us talking this morning. you can't start shopping until oprah tells you what to buy, right? today she reveals the favorite things for the holiday season. one of oprah's biggest shows of the season. that is clip of a few years ago, people going crazy. this one expected to have a huge surprise. since it's going to be her last favorite things special in the 25-year history of the show. we are told that some audience

members were in tears and oprah says they even had to have paramedics on stand by in case somebody totally lost it. >> i think that was the year they gave away the flight to australia. john travolta was flying the plane. i'd cry. >> that will do it. so-called "me" generation having trouble staying married in china. this is a story from npr showing the divorce rate doubled over the past decade up to 39% in beijing and a lot blaming china's one-child policy for creating kids that are too spoiled and then they don't know how to make a marriage work. >> because they're not used to sharing anything. >> yeah. >> all the focus is on them. >> yeah. >> coming time to forge a partnership -- >> that's what i hear. >> not working. >> that's what i hear. >> you are an only child. >> but i always want to share things. you know? dress like my friends. >> you're unusual. >> because i'm an only child i also didn't have to split everything. with my two kids, you have to give half to your brother.

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well, crossing the half hour and time for this morning's top stories. 27 coal miners missing after an underground explosion at a mine on the new zealand west coast. two got out and rescuers have been unable to enter the mine because of concerns about a gas build-up. also natalee holloway's family waiting the results of dna tests and forensics testing to see if a jawbone found on the beach in aruba belonged to their daughter. she as you know disappeared in aruba five years ago and initial tests end yated it belonged to a young woman. more states permitting the sale of alcohol on sundays as a

way of generating revenue. since 2002, 14 states have done away with so-called blue laws in all 36 states now allow liquor sales on sunday. how about this? if you buy a hyundai, you get an ipad? new luxury car by hyundai comes fully loaded with an interactive owner's manual on an ipad. it goes on sale next month equipped with 16 gigabyte enabled ipad. $69,000. >> expensive hyundai. don't text and drive if you get one. less than a week to go before one of the busiest travel days of the year and a growing cry across the country to ditch the tsa. >> a lot of people have has wit the enhanced pat downs, having to go through the body scanners a ennow the head of the orlando-sanford international airport in florida taking that deep satisfaction to another level. larry dale join us this morning by phone from sanford, florida.

thank you for joining us. >> good morning. you're welcome. thank you for having me. >> you said you were impressed after the private screeners at airports you encountered across the country. what do you think? would this be a change you guys would be willing to take on, switching the tsa snout. >> yeah. me and my board doing due diligence on this since february and visited several airports part of the pilot screening program back in '02. security and transportation -- the aviation administration security act created a pilot program and then that was so successful congress rolled that into a screening partnership partner so any airport is capable of what they call opting out. and requesting to participate in a screening partnering program. >> here's, larry, what the tsa told us. all commercial airports regulated by tsa and sets the

security standards that must be followed and includes the use of enhanced pat downs and imaging technology if installed at the airport. how would hiring private security to do what the tsa is doing make any kind of difference? >> well, because airports are unique unto them. one size doesn't fit all. there's a lot of id owe sin kro sis with the airports and managing that one size fits all doesn't work and the ones with private screening really like the fact that they are specific to their airport and if they manage it with a business-like hand that they're cost accounting is good, their efficiency is good, accountability to the airport and tsa is good, their customer satisfaction is good. these people have to earn the right to keep the contract. they don't just get the contract and have it forever. by the tsa and they're right. it is under their standard operating procedures. >> give us practically speaking

a scenario here where it might feel differently. i mean, do the private con tackers get to decide whether they pull out a passenger for enhanced screening or the pat down, deciding whether or not to go through those screeners? is this something that i guess there's just more leeway in deciding who has to be pulled out for additional security? >> there are ways to do it and i think we have all had bad experiences with government officials in our lifetime. i certainly have at other airports. not particularly here. i have a wonderful fsd here. federal security director but it's this management of a specific airport done by private companies can be much more efficient, much more enjoyable to the public because they want to earn the right -- >> i know. i understand that. does that mean they have greater -- they can decide who they pull out and who they don't and so perhaps it may be different than the way that the

tsa does it? >> well, certain matters security sensitive and confidential and certainly ways to do that but they have to be working with the tsa management through the federal security director on the operating procedure. so the private companies that we have looked at, the airport that is are using them seem to be much more satisfied than the one that is are done in the all encompassing 68,000 personnel agency. it was originally intended to be 20,000 and congress kept it at 44,000 and now 68,000 so it's just burgeoning and, of course, we know, you know, what happens when an agency gets too big. there's the postal service saying we're going bankrupt. so it's just a much more manageable situation with the private company at a specific airport. even though it's you should the a

us a passes of tsa for management. scheduling and personnel, everything that goes with the operation is done by private business. and by the way, john mica wrote that act to be private screening. the senate shot that down and came up with this screening partnership program to allow private companies. >> larry, we'll keep in touch and we'll see what you decide to do there at the sanford international airport. larry, thank you for joining us this morning. robotic arms giving a peek of how our brain is working or not working. the man that created the technology will join us. how it could change the lives of anyone that suffered a brain injury. ♪

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when someone suffers a brain injury, not all of the effects are necessarily obvious. even to some of the best trained doctors. that's where the next amazing machine comes in. it uses virtual reality and robotic arms to give doctor's a look at brain function like never before. joining us is dr. steven scott, the developer, and presented it in san diego earlier this week. steven, great to see you this morning. we should point out for folks at home each year in the united states 1.7 million people suffer some sort of traumatic brain injury. hit their heads or with the military explosives cause damage. how accurate and how effective are the current evaluation techniques to determine whether or not somebody's got a serious brain injury? >> it's a real problem. i've certainly talked to some doctors in emergency rooms and talk about having football

players come in, have a head injury and they're not sure what they need to do and very few tools available. >> there's a real challenge there. you have a machine that uses computer programs and virtual reality to try to tell if somebody's had -- has a lack of brain function because of an injury. roll video of current techniques. neurologist in front of a patient, ask the patient to put the finger on the finger and then touch their nose. look at your technology and sits people inside this machine. they've got the right arm held in place and then they're asked to match the position with the other hand. not able to see the hand and get it accurately. now a stroke patient and what happens when them. the right hand in place, the left arm is moving all over. and you get a real sense that something's not right here. why is this test better than the current tests?

>> well, if you look at the traditional test touching their nose and touching the clinician's finger, what they have is a subjective decision by the clinician that they have to do and because it's subjective an they require the numbers to be the same, they end up having very course scales and score, say, zero, one or two for how well they did. zero not at all. one, they had some problems and two they did it well. and the problem is two things. one, it is an extremely coarse scale. one is a broad range and you can have a subject improve a lot through rehab but they still aren't able to make it up to the next step. as well, the problem is if you get a one, not clear why they couldn't do the task. they couldn't correct or there is weakness? so the idea with our technology -- go ahead. >> i was going to say, we can see here on the comparison the person who's normal gets the left hand within a very defined

range and the people with the stroke is all over the place. what are conditions that it might be applicable to diagnose i ing? >> it is for all possible brain injuries. we started with stroke and very complex, the types of individual problems they have. and in this task, you can see that this stroke subject had severe problems taking the information from their limb, sensory information to say where their arm is in space and so this is an actual problem that there's very few good tools to mention this function. >> right. >> and so, it can be applicable to any possible disease or injury that affects the brain and there is an enormous number, not just stroke. traumatic brain injury is a hot topic right now with the military situations in afghanistan and iraq and concussions in sports. and it's very important to get fast, rapid information and it's important that it's objective. it doesn't matter where you have the test done. that's the nice thing with the

robotic technology is doesn't matter in l.a. or new york. you get the same number and as well instead of coarse scales as i talked about for the traditional measures, you get this fine grain ability to take a measure, parameterize it or take the information we get and identify the range of value that is are possible in a very fine detail for much better precision. >> it is repeatable and really terrific. this is moving from the laboratory into test hospitals and we'll be watching and dr. sanjay gupta will have a particular interest. great to talk to you this morning. thank you for coming in. >> thank you very much. >> all right. we got, what? 45 minutes after the hour. we'll be right back. exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance,

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48 minutes past the hour. a quick check of the weather headlines. people getting ready for the weekend. wondering what it's going to be like. hey, rob. >> good morning. not too shabby much of the country, especially eastern half. we have three suns on the forecast map for today. west coast, the problem. pacific northwest, northern california. rain in the valleys and snows up in the mountains. two feet in the cascades and the sierras will get pummeled over 48 hour hours. two to three feet. building a base in tahoe, for sure. this in a second. the build-up of heat across the east. beginning sunday, monday into

tuesday, and then we're looking at the potential for seeing storm develop along this storm track that would bring a wintry mix to places like chicago, minneapolis and lake-effect snow potentially on thanksgiving probably won't get into the bigger cities here in the northeast but any sort of travel through the great lakes may very well be an issue on turkey day and the day before. following that story. meantime, you have a great weekend. back to you in new york. >> you, too, rob. all right. you will like this next one. are you a big surfing fan? >> i'm a fan. i'm not very good. >> you can appreciate how hard it is? >> very much so. >> a lot of face plants as you learn. almost two decades of sports dominance but most americans wouldn't know this guy and why you should be stoked about pro-surfer kelly slater coming right up.

success alone were the key to stardom, he would be a hero to millions.

>> pro-surfer kelly slater can walk down most any street in america without being recognized. jason carroll with the best athlete you have probably never heard of. good morning. >> you would think he would be a household name. been at the top of his game for 20 years and most people outside of surfing still have never heard of kelly slater. in the world of sport icons there's ali, jordan, federer. and slater? >> is he somebody on cnn? >> slater? what sport? >> never heard of the guy. >> i know exactly who that is. >> who is kelly slater? >> he is a surfer. >> reporter: he is the one pulling into this monster barrel. he's kelly slater. >> i love surfing more than anything. you know? i just love to ride waves. since i was a little kid. it's just been my passion. >> kelly slater, oh yeah. >> the talent lies not just in the versatilitversatility.

dropping into hawaii's biggest waves or ripping the smallest. but also, his longevity. he's still at the top of his game at 38 years old. how do you do it? >> keep your mind open to new and fresh ideas. i think when you get too set in your ways no matter what it is you seem to grow old pretty fast. >> ten unprecedented. >> reporter: slater just won his tenth world championship. some perspective. the guy that trailed him was 3 years old when slater won the first world title at age 20 in 1992. >> as a 20-year-old, did you think you would be surfing at 38? >> i didn't think i would be competing at 38 but i've always said i want to be surfing when i'm 90 or -- i actually want to try to surf pipeline when i'm 90. >> forever youthful. forever stoked. got incredible desire. >> reporter: sports columnist bruce jenkins said it's time slater became more of a

household name. >> the fact he's done these things at the highest level, to me he has to be regarded among the greatest athletes of all time. >> reporter: we met him at the mollusk surf shop. it is really, really light. >> thanks a lot. >> reporter: as i dig it. he designed this board and won the tenth world title on it. the question, will he go for 11? >> i don't know. it's a question, obviously, a lot of people put to me in the last week. i don't know. >> well, slater actually says that his age gives him a mental edge. he says that he's learned over the years to focus more out there on the water. that's extremely hard. when i was much younger we used to boogie board. southern california. heard zuma-6. just can't imagine what they do. monster waves they're competing on. >> you get to lay on the belly and hold on for dear life. has he encountered a shark? >> he has.

it's very common for these guys to see sharks all the time. big ones. >> never been bitten? >> never been bitten. >> too fast. >> too fast. >> how's he going to go for 11 now that you dinged up the board? >> you couldn't let that go. holding it up. flipping it over. just sort of dinged it just a little bit. just a little bit. you know, he designs boards all the time. goes through them -- >> no big deal. >> i don't know if it's no big deal. he gave me a pass. he gave me a pass. >> great story, jason. >> thank you. >> what a heart throb. talking about kelly, sorry. >> what? >> four minutes until the top of the hour. turn every room into a project. but this year, let's trim the budget. get some help from martha stewart that we can't get anywhere else. and spread our money as far as our cheer. ♪ more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. we're lowering the cost of bright spirits. now get a 100 count light set for $2.28.

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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com quick programming note for you before we leave. who's going to be the next cnn hero? watch next thursday night when anderson cooper hosts "cnn heroes: an all-star tribute" at 8:00 eastern on thanksgiving night. >> special guest at thing, the 33 chilean miners and family members making the trip