he's in a mental health facility. no sign of the boys ages 5, 7 and 9. and a warning to the founder of the website wikileaks. the state department says the plan to release more classified documents would put lives at risk. officials say the information could jeopardize relationships with allies, military actions, and anti-terrorism operations. of course, that is a leak of documents that would come on the heels of two further, two previous document dumps. "state of the union" with candy crowley starts now. before it is in with the new, it is back to the old. the final weeks of the 111th congress. after giving thanks, democrats and republicans return to show if there is give anywhere else. >> next week, i've invited the leadership of both parties to the white house for a real and honest discussion. the election's over. we've got to find places where we can agree. >> the list of unfinished business is long and the

expectations minimal. the premiere domestic item, what to do about tax cuts due to expire on every taxpayer at end of december. >> the only place where we disagree is whether we can afford to also borrow $700 billion to pay for an extra tax cut for the wealthiest americans, for millionaires and billionaires. i don't think we can afford to right now. >> this week, it may not feel like the election is over. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com today as the lame duck congress takes on issues like tax cuts and don't ask don't tell. we're joined by john mccain. >> the president should not make decisions where we're sending young men and women into harm's way based on political consideration. >> and then president george bush and his brother, jeb bush, on family and the holidays. >> we're very close-knit group of people. >> do you talk politics in those

family gatherings? >> not much. not really. by the time christmas came around i was looking for a break from politics. >> i'm candy crowley. and this is "state of the union." joining me now here in washington, republican senator john mccain of arizona on your maiden voyage on the show with me. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, candy. >> before we get to domestic policy i want to talk to you about north korea. try to give our audience perspective on how dangerous this is, and i ask because it seems to me we go through this periodically. all of the sudden north korea, you know, tests a missile, fires into south korean water territory. is this any more dangerous than anything in the past and what does that mean to the average american? >> it's more dangerous in the north koreans have enhanced capability, missile and nuclear capability. it's also a lesson that continued appeasement of north

korea which we've been doing basically under republican and democrat administrations since 1994, with the agreed upon framework. we've given the north koreans over $1 billion of aid and assistance in the last 15 years or so and based on the premise that we would all get together and negotiate. it seems the purpose of everything is to get the north koreans. to the table. the north koreans only claim to their position on the world stage is their nuclear capability, and they have a terrible, most repressive, oppressive regime in the world. they have hundreds of thousands of people in slave labor camps, and all of that seems to be sacrificed in the altar of "negotiations." so long ago, we should have put a significant pressure on the north koreans, even in the bush administration we freed up a $25 million bank account and took them off the terrorist list.

>> but this isn't immune -- >> could i finally say the key to this obviously china and unfortunately china is not behaving as responsible world power. it cannot be in china's long-term interest to see a renewed conflict on the korean peninsula. we've got to understand that china is not what we want it to be, but is not playing a responsible role on the world stage, much less in, on the korean peninsula. they could bring a north korean economy to its knees if they wanted to, and i cannot believe that the chinese should in a mature fashion not find it in their interest to restrain north korea. so far, they are not. >> you have called it what north korea has done is up acceptable, you've called on china to react strongly. they have said let's get the group of six together, not for talks on nuclear, on north korea's nuclear capability but about this.

let's have an emergency meeting. is that a good first step? >> i think it would be a fine first step but do we really think that there's been, that this long history of confrontation, that the north koreans have practiced is going to come to a halt without significant penalties on north korea? >> from china. >> yes. i think it's time we talked about regime change in north korea, and i do not mean military action, but i do believe that this is a very unstable regime. they're now passing on to, from the dear leader to what we call him the sweet leader, whatever it is, 27-year-old four-star general. so, but, and we can, we can have a peaceful resolution to this issue, but the north korean regime is not one that's going to abandon the nuclear power status. they are now seeking recognition from us that they are a nuclear nation. that's not in our interests. >> i want to move on to

afghanistan to button this up. >> one other thing. the chinese, now the united states is engaged in military operations with south korea in the yellow sea. the chinese have claimed the yellow sea as a special economic zone. we have to understand that china is not behaving in a responsible fashion as a world power, and we have to make adjustments to our policies regarding china. >> and just to button this up, are we on the verge, is the korean peninsula on the verge of war or is this something that is more long-term problem? >> i think if past behavior holds true the north koreans will walk up to the edge and then step back and try to get more concessions and more money and more economic aid, and more jobs for north koreans sponsored by south korea. i'm not sure that the south koreans are going to go along this time. >> let me ask you about afghanistan. new report out, the one that they give twice a year.

>> um-hum. >> they called military and security gains "fragile, the efforts to reduce insurgency capacity in pakistan has not produced measurable success." they said "the taliban has sufficient capability and support to pose a threat to the viability of the government, and if the security situation erodes, that quickly the security will erode -- quickly the stability in the region will erode." we've been there nine years. at this point isn't it legit to say can we really do this because it seems to grow worse. >> i think that's why we'll have an assessment next month in december. i came back with lindsey graham and joe lieberman. we made significant military successes, thanks to general petraeus and the brave young men and women serving. >> doesn't sound like we're making progress. >> we are. i don't have any doubt that we are in that area. there are two major problems right now, one of them is

corruption at the highest levels of government. they have a corrupt attorney general. this latest business about the elections is really unacceptable, and a sanctuary in pakistan. the pakistanis are still, the armed military with isi are still having businesses with the, cooperating with the a al khani network and other taliban elements within afghanistan. you cannot allow the enemy sanctuary. these are significant problems. >> and they've been significant problems, though, for years, so you got to kind of wonder, are we ever going to make a dent in this and ask as a last part of this, does a 2014 agreed upon deadline for the removal of combat troops by both nato and the u.s. forces, is that helping? >> it's a dramatic improvement over the 2011 date that the president had been sponsoring which was enormous impediment to progress because people were

adjusting to us leaving in 2011. i'm happy to see 2014. let me just say, if it wasn't a corrupt government, if we didn't have the trouble with pakistan that we have, things would be a lot better in afghanistan and remember it's only been since the president announced at west point that we would really increase the number of troops there, and general petraeus' appointment with all due respect to general mcchrystal that we have really started to make some improvements. we cannot afford for afghanistan to return to being a base for attacks on the united states of america. and we should never forget that and finally could i just mention, candy, the taliban are not popular. the taliban are hated by most of the people of afghanistan. it's not as if they're a popular movement. >> but they're scared of them. >> of course they're scared. they're scared to death of them but to say the afghan people would welcome them with open arms is just, i mean and think of the women's rights issues and all of these other cruelties

that the taliban have inflicted on the people of afghanistan. >> let me ask you about don't ask, don't tell. it's going to koum up, you'll have testimony before the armed services committee. you criticized what you believe will be in the upcoming report about how the military feels saying no this is about how are we going to implement it, not about how the military feels. you have a letter from robert gates, defense secretary which said "i do not believe that military policy decisions should on this or any other subject be subject to referendum of service members." in other words, you know what this service members, how they would vote is sort of immaterial to what we're trying to do. doesn't he have a point? >> well i think he certainly has a point. i would also certainly say that we should remember where this all started. there was no uprising in the military, no problems in the military with don't ask don't tell. >> it was a problem? >> it wasn't a problem because you didn't have, it's called don't ask don't tell. if you don't ask somebody, and they don't tell.

and it's an all volunteer force. i understand your point of view, and i understand the point of view by the majority of the media, but the fact is this was a political promise made by an inexperienced president or candidate for presidency of the united states. the military is at its highest point in recruitment and retention and professionalism and capability, so to somehow allege that this policy has been damaging the military is simply false. so the fact is that this system is working, and i believe that we need to assess the effect on the battle effectiveness of those people, those young marines and army people that are putting their lives on the loin every day. this is an all volunteer force. if we want to ensure morale battle effectiveness is maintained that's why the commandant of the marine corps has come out against repeal. if you want to call him a racist and the sergeants that i have --

>> defense secretary and the head of the joint chiefs of staff think it's a good idea. >> and they have said that and the four service chiefs, the four service chiefs have all had reservations to one degree or another. >> it's an integration required -- >> i have great respect for the secretary, for the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. i have great respect for the service chiefs and great respect to the men and women serve the sergeants and chief petty officers, the ones who make the military work. >> integration of any sort has come whether it's racial, gender, doesn't it require leadership rather than followership, in other words, does it, yes it matters. how the military feels but. don't you need to lead when it comes to a matter of integration, which definitely was difficult. >> look we're in two wars. i ran into a master sergeant in a forward operating base outside kandahar, who had five tours in iraq and of axwan began stand and a number came up and said

look we fight together. we sleep together. we eat together. i want to know the effect of our ability to win this conflict. that's what we're saying. i want to know the effect on battle effectiveness and morale, not on how best to implement a change in policy. i don't think that's a lot to ask when we have our young men and women out there serving and fighting, and tragically some of them dying. >> i have less than 30 seconds here. i have to ask you about sarah palin, new book out that you're going to read sooner or later, going to iowa and south carolina. is she going to run for president, isn't she going to run for president. how do you read what's going on? >> i read i think she's keeping her options open and i think she should. i think she is an incredible force in american political arena. >> divisive force would you agree? >> i think that anybody who has the visibility that sarah has is obviously going to have some divisiveness. i remember that a guy named

ronald reagan used to be viewed by some as civisive. >> you see her as a parallel? >> no, i think hees' doing a great job, positive impact on the last election and i'm proud of her. >> senator john mccain thank you so much pop. >> thanks for having me on. up next on interview with two lawmakers. thankful to be leaving washington for good. >> the biggest rip-off of the middle class by the elite that i've ever seen. >> this country needs some really good decisions these days on tough issues. everything you need to stretch out on long trips. residence inn. ♪ everything you need to stay balanced on long trips.

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most of the attention in this year's midterms has been on the new incoming lawmakers, most of them republicans who will shape policy over the next two years and maybe beyond. but we are also intrigued by the outgoing lawmakers, the ones voluntarily walking away. this year, 12 senators and 26 congressmen decided not to run for re-election. two of them join me here, wisconsin congressman david obie and senator byron dorgan of north dakota. thank you both. >> thank you. >> i want to talk to a couple of issues with you. it's rare you get politicians on you know they are free to speak so feel free to chime in on these issues because you're short timers as we say. the tax cuts, you all have a

month and a half, not quite. what's going to happen? >> i don't know what's going to happen. i know what i think should happen. we have had the greatest surge upward of wealth on the income scale in the history of the universe. you've had a huge amount of money transferred from the middle class to the top dogs. even at the biggest rip-offs of the middle class by the elite that i think i've ever seen. under those circumstances i don't think we ought to be spending $750 billion in order to give people who make over $250,000 another tax cut. >> although it will be keeping their tax cut but nonetheless, when you look at the current state of play, what do you think is going to happen? >> those tax cuts were put in place, i didn't vote for them but they were put in place in order to return ten years of surplus that was expected but never materialized. everyone knows surpluses, only

deficits. we should not have any permanent extensions. i would extend up to $250,000 for two years, only those folks and then at two years, take a look at it and see what does the economy need now. more important than the question of who gets tax cuts during war time is what do we do to fix this federal budget deficit and put the country back in shape so that we have a better future. >> but given the state of play, i mean i know you both would like to keep the tax cuts in place for the middle class, which is defined at $250,000 and under, the republicans are pushing hard for everyone to keep their tax cuts in place, at least temporarily, they'd like them permanent. you have sat in the senate and you have sat in the house for a very long time. i just know you can look at this and know what's coming. >> but the fact is, people over $250,000 in income would still get a tax cut. they would just be capped so the size of their tax cut stops

after they get to $250,000. >> right. >> what's likely to happen is there will be an extension of the tax cuts for everybody for a period of time. i don't know what that might be, but that's the wrong remedy for the country. i mean to give someone who earns $1 million a year a $104,000 a year tax cut at a time when we have a $13 trillion debt, $1.3 trillion annual deficit and people at war, that's absurd, makes no sense. >> let me turn you to the debt commission, we have a brand new debt commission, you've seen a couple of them in your time, i think, that are saying listen, we've got to look at the three things that cost us the most, the defense department, federally funded health care of medicare, medicaid, that c.h.i.p.s. program, as well as social security, this is another throw-away report? >> well, i hope not. i mean -- >> but what do you think? ? i don't know whether it will get out of the commission. it needs 14 of 18 votes to come

out to the congress, but this is serious stuff. we are in an unsustainable path for the long-term, and we have to find a way to address it and that would be also spending, with additional revenue and series of things. my hope is the serious work done by this commission and others will result in this country finally finding its footing and putting itself on track for a better future but at the moment if we don't do that, we're in long-term serious trouble. >> what do you make of the earmark movement, that is no longer will congressmen or senators be able to put into legislation things that are earmarked specifically for a library or a bridge or whatever it is, republicans say let's get rid of that. >> well, i find it interesting that the most conservative members of the congress are those who want to have an absolute transfer of power to the executive branch of government. having said that, as chairman of the appropriations committee, i

don't care what happens to earmarks. i'll play that flat around. you can keep them or dump them. the fact is, they are inconsequential in comparison to the other problems we face, less than half a percent of the budget, and we have made substantial reforms in the way they are handled. you can no longer ask for an earmark anonymously under the table. you have to take full, public credit for it. the committee has to have time to review it but if the congress is hell bent on turning over that power to the president, they'll have to live with it. >> and you agree with the same thing, right, you're giving this up sort of cedes power to the president? >> it's a complete charade. you can get rid of every single earmark. it's a charade trying to direct attention over here, when the big issue is an unsustainable fiscal policy, put in place

largely by the 2001 tax cuts, most of that benefit went to the wealthiest americans and here is where we are, but you know, it is not honest to take a look at earmarks and say this is part of the fiscal policy. it is not, just isn't. there are plenty of problems that we have to confront, but that is not it. let me just mention as well, there's no preordained destiny for this country to always do well to grow and to succeed. this country needs, it seems, some really good decisions these days on tough issues and trying to direct attention to things that don't matter is not helpful to this country. >> i want to ask you both to stick with me. we'll talk about your swan songs to congress. we'll be back in a minute. ave at of scientists that play music. the creativity, the innovation, there's definitely a tie there. one thing our scientists are working on is carbon capture and storage, which could prevent co2 from entering the atmosphere. we've just built a new plant to demonstrate how we can safely freeze out the co2 from natural gas.

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have you read the reconciliation bill? have you read the manager's amendmentme amendment? hell no, you haven't! >> going to miss it? >> not that. >> that's remarkable. has it -- you've been in congressman richard nixon, in times you can remember of the two parties? >> i don't think so, because when i first became politically conscious it was the era of joel mccarthy and nothing was as bad as the spate of mccarthyism this country went through. >> you seem so discouraged about it. >> i am discouraged about it because i think that money is rapidly taking over politics. when i got elected the first time in 1969, i spent $45,000. my opponent spent $65,000, and i won. today you've got house seats that cost $4 million, that means

instead of members being able to spend time learning these issues, learning to know about each other, they spend their time dialing for dollars. that's not a constructive change and the supreme court made it abominablely worse. >> senator, sort of along the same lines i want to play you something that congressman obie said during his retirement press conference and have you take a listen. >> all i do know is that there has to be more to life than explaining the ridiculous accountability destroying rules of the united states senate -- [ laughter ] -- to confused and angry and frustrated constituents. >> senator, i think he's taui tg about you. >> yeah, well, congressman obie has always been one of the more colorful members of congress, actually. no, listen, we heard him loud and clear over on the senate side. we didn't have enough votes to get things done. because in the senate as

congressman obie knows, regrettably everything these days takes a super majority of 60 votes but i fully understood the frustration and have heard it from him and others in the u.s. house. look i think all of us should want and the american people should expect and deserve better from the congress. >> there's so much left undone as you just talked about senator and as you know in the economy, in sort of long-term debt reduction, that kind of thing. why did you guy each of you not to stay and fight? >> well, i have served in congress 30 years. i've served in the state capitol in elected position ten years before that. i've been in statewide elective office continually since age 26, and i just, i want to have another chapter in my life. i'm not leaving because i'm upset, because i don't like the congress. i have great respect for the congress. it's been a gift to be able to serve, given to me by the people of north dakota. an old guy called me in the hospital after i announced and

could barely talk he said "dorgan what in the hell are you doing?" i said i want to do some other things in life and having served 30 years i think for me it's time to move on. i want the congress to succeed, however. this country needs the congress to work well. >> congressmen obie you're more frustrated than senator dorgan? >> i've been here 42 years and before that six years in state legislature. i think almost 50 years is quite enough, number one. number two, as i said earlier, i detest what money is doing to politics, and i am frankly fed up with trying to convince people that we should do something to deal with the fact that we have the greatest maldistribution of income in the history of this country. people attack the democratic party for being redistributionist. in fact, you have had the largest redistribution of income up the income scale in the history of the country the last 30 years, and i think we simply,

it's time for new blood and fresh legs to take on that fight anew, because until we do that, we are not going to build the kind of country that continues to lead the world. >> if you could fill in this short sentence for me, after i leave congress, i am most looking forward to --? >> playing more music and perhaps increasing my allotment of gin and tonics from time to time. >> we'll come and see. >> i'll stay aa way from the gin tonics but more time to do interest things. >> congressmen, thank you for being with us. good luck. >> thank you. up next, holiday witness the bush family and jeb bush on whether he actually read his brother's book. [ william ] three years ago, i started my first real job as a part time sales associate with walmart. when william came in i knew he had everything he needed to be a leader in this company. [ william ] after a couple of months, i was promoted to department manager. like, wow, really? me?

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brother, former florida governor jeb bush. you are to us a political family, but the fact of the matter is you have brothers and a sister who are not totally involved in elective politics. >> sure. >> so i wanted to read you something that came out of your dad's book, when of his dear lads letters that got me thinking. dear lads, i shall stop with this gratuitous advice. listen to your conscience. don't be afraid not to join the mob, if you feel inside it's wrong. don't confuse being soft with seeing the other guy's point of view. in judging your president, give him the enormous credit he's due for substantive achievements." he sometimes seems to be of such another era of politics. do you think this kind of tone is at all possible now? >> yeah. sure it is. >> it has to be. >> that's called character, and he's got a lot of character and there are people of character in

public service. i'm sitting next to one here, and -- >> did so here george for eight years i don't remember him ever saying anything about any of his opposition, personalizing the discourse ever. that didn't happen, it was a one-way street, because on the other side, all sorts of things were said but it doesn't have to be that way. there's enough to disagree on to, you know, on principle and ideology, the future of the country to have civil disagreement is fine but we don't have the luxury of being against things for being against things purposes. >> outside of politics, is there something that you would say defines a bush? is there a bush family ethos that you all got from your parents, passed along to your children? >> i'd say love. i mean, you know, when people read my book they'll realize at times i was not a very loveable person because i was kind of pushing the envelope, at least

from parental point of view, and my parents always loved us, and loyalty to each other, we're loyal to each other. >> loyalty is huge in the bush family, is it not? that's what you would have said. >> yeah. >> and that's why you don't talk publicly if you have a disagreement or let it be known you disagree with the president or the president disagrees with the governor. >> the current vernacular is "i have your back." it's comforting to know that my brother had my back. >> and does that filter down to others who aren't involved in politics, at least in the public way you are? do you feel that way about your other brothers, sister and something you pass along to your kids? >> yeah. >> i just say something bad about -- if you say something bad about dara we'll come flying across the table. >> i won't. when you look at thanksgiving, is there a tradition in the bush fam ily that goes down through

the ages, do you have your separate thanksgiving? you might be a hey everybody let's run up to kennebunkport, thanksgiving. >> i wouldn't volunteer to go to kennebunkport on thanksgiving because it's ten degrees. >> maybe come to your place. >> when dad was the president, the family would gather for kris mass at camp david, and when i was the president, laura and i would have our family at camp david as well for christmas. for 12 years the family did get together and it was unbelievably fun. we're very close knit group of people. >> do you talk politics in those family gatherings? >> not much. >> not really. by the time christmas came around, i was looking for a break from politics, and my dad understood, jeb understood that, and it's -- >> one christmas, dad was deciding whether or not to send american troops to kuwait to take out the iraqis, and i mean there were somber times when he

was president as well, you could see the weight of the world on their shoulders but we talked about sports and normal stuff. >> traded sammy sosa, that kind of thing? >> exactly. >> let me, that's what i remember about sports, is that he was, sam my sosa was traded. >> never living it down, 20 years ago and still on you for that. >> ah, what the heck. >> another letter from your dad, interesting light of tone, "dear lads, civility will return to washington eventually. personalities will change and our system will have proved that it works more slowly than some would want, less efficiently than some would decree, but it works and gives us even in adversity great stability." 1974. >> interesting. >> yeah. >> so civility as far as i can see has not returned to washington and i guess what i wonder is, you have children. you have children. you may have grandchildren at some point if you stop pressuring her in public, and

i'm wondering if from what you've seen, what your father went through, what you went through, you say any of your children eager to join, do you see any of your children eager to join in this kind of elected politics? >> i have three children, two of which i think are, if i'd bet at least one of them will run for something. they're already actively involved and they do it with their eyes wide open. they know that it's not a perfect system, but your skin gets thickened when you see, you know, someone you love go through the difficulty. that's far harder than doing it yourself. >> are we talking about when you say at least one of them? >> george and jeb, my son, actively politically here. >> no, i don't think our girls will run. >> you don't think jenna will ever do that? >> they will be involved with helping improve people's lives. i mean there's all kinds of ways to serve a community, and our little girls are young,

professional women who are making positive contributions to our society, and i doubt they'll ever run for office, though. >> grandchildren might? >> i'm not going to of course urge my daughter over the air to have a child. >> we've already done it in print, ensuring you won't have one for awhile. governor bush, and former president bush, thank you as well. >> you bet. thank you, candy. up next a check of today's top headlines and white house photographer pete sousa on capturing some of the most iconic moments in american politics.

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conduct joint military exercises in the yellow sea. north korea called it a pretext for war and warns that any intrusion into the country's territorial waters will result in a "merciless military counter attack." european finance ministers are meeting today to finalize an $85 billion rescue package for ireland. the emergency aid is aimed to help the country cover bank debts and a massive budget deficit. in dublin yesterday about 50,000 people took to the street to protest the irish government's austerity plan. a somali-born teenager faces up to life in prison and a quarter million dollar fine. federal authorities say 19-year-old mohammed asman mohamud was intending to ignite what he believed to be a bomb. he was managed to be slipped a fake bomb. those are your top stories here on state of the union. up next images of the president

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unless you are family, you can't get much closer to the life of a president than the photographer hired by the white house to snap history in pictures. former "chicago tribune" photographer pete souza is the primary photographer for president obama. he took pictures for president reagan in the 1980s creating a good photographic archive for history is the most important part of my job, he says, creating this archive that will live on. his work and that of many others is profileed in a few book "the president's photographer." i talked with pete souza earlier. >> that's his youngest daughter, sasha. what was happening here? you were with him and she arrived or vice versa? >> she just kind of ran into each other. she was on the way up to the elevator, and he just saw her,

grabbed her, gave her a big hug. >> this is the kind of thing you couldn't get as a chicago trib photographer. >> no, i think my access to the president is much different and more intimate than a newspaper photographer. >> what's the place in history for pictures like these? >> i just think, you know, it gives a better rounded view of a president as a human being than is depicted in newspapers and magazines. you know, in time there will be even more pictures released. you know, it's really fun to look back now at some of the pictures of kennedys, johnsons, fords, bush 41, so on and so forth. >> let me move on to this next picture because i want to talk to you about the role of a white house photographer, because you were involved not just many taking this picture, but in almost making it happen. explain that to us. >> well, this was a normandy, and as the -- after the president spoke at normandy,

this was last year, i believe. i sort of lose track of time. by a bunch of the veterans were trying to get close to him to shake his hand, and this one gentleman was one of those who was trying to say hi to the president, and he was literally mock knocked down m crowd, and i saw it happen. i felt really bahhed about. there's this guy just trying to shake his hand, and he gets caught up many the crush. there were so many people there. i had mentioned it to the white house trip director marvin nicholson. i said if there's any way that this poor guy just got knocked down. he really wanted to meet the president. marvin just made it happen. they wheeled him over, and look at that face. i chose an angle to get his reaction to meeting the president. >> and it does tell a story, and it also -- you mentioned that you have also worked as a newspaper photog, and the roles are very different, are they not? you would want have -- >> i would not have done that.

clearly, i would not have done that. in this instance it seemed like the right thing to do as a human being. you know, i saw this guy. he got knocked down. i felt really bad, and so i expressed that emotion to marvin nicholson, and marvin is the one who made this happen. >> i want to show smu pictures and quite a few quick succession and explain what they are and then ask you a final question here. this is lyndon johnson meeting with his advisors, or assuming this is late at night, and there's no other sort of explanation about it in the book. then we have one of gerald ford kind of moving kron logically upward. this is gerald ford. he is going to be president. richard nixon has resigned, but they're not ready for him yet at the white house. david kennerling took this photo of mrs. ford many her curler where's. she made that dinner. he is now sort of officially the president of the united states. this is the bush 41 family.

dad of the latest president bush with their grandchildren up in kennebunkport one morning with the kids all coming in. i look at those -- all of those pictures, and i thought can you see any modern presidency -- these are pretty darn intimate photos. i mean, this is the bushes in their beds and lyndon yon son in his bed and mrs. ford many her curlers. can that picture happen again some. >> the picture of bush was shot when he was vice president. i don't think there's anything of him as president that's like that. and the k kemnerley photo it waa different era and we had just gone through watergate, and ford was trying to depict himself as being a regular guy, open. it's a great picture, and i think this was when they were still living many alexandria after nixon resigned, and they hadn't yet moved into the white house. the one of