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on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening. mike tyson returns to "larry king live," the legendary former heavyweight boxing champion. how are you doing? >> i'm doing awesome. thanks, my friend. >> larry: we have been together many times over the years. do you ever look back and say i'm not the guy that i was? >> all the time. yeah. look at that guy and say, what was going on? who was happening there? you have no idea what was going on with my life back then with this guy. >> larry: what the most changed you? >> i don't know. i had to grow up. i had an incident where i lost my daughter in some family accident at home and it was just a time to grow up and wake up. >> larry: that was, of course, the worst incident in your life, right?

>> pretty much, pretty much. yeah. >> larry: she died how? >> a freak accident on the treadmill. >> larry: how old was she? >> 4. >> larry: were you home? >> no, no. i wasn't living with her mother at the time. i was in las vegas and they lived in phoenix. and her mother called me and told me what happened. i rushed down there and it was already pretty much a done deal. >> larry: how do you -- you never get over that, do you? >> i don't know. i don't know. it's a new stage. i don't know if i get over it or not. >> larry: do you believe in an after life? do you believe that she is somewhere? >> i don't know anything. i just know that we have to keep on living and being alive is for the living and being dead is for the dying. we have to continue living, you know. >> larry: that's an interesting philosophy on life. you are done with boxing, right?

>> pretty much, yeah. >> larry: you don't ever think about doing holyfield? >> never, ever. i wish i could but -- >> larry: do you ever miss it? >> periodically. not wish i would have done this. every now and then. >> larry: you don't go through wish i could have, would have, should have? >> never. >> larry: many people probably think you're iron mike tyson but u're not. we sent a crew to las vegas to see how you spend your days. here's mike tyson, the family man. ♪ >> the president to the vice president. >> you think so? >> i went to the president to the vice president.

>> say hi, larry. oh, she's shy. >> you like that, don't you? >> this is difficult. this is a challenge that i welcome with open arms. i love this stuff now. >> larry: the career, the life and times of mike tyson. the former heavyweight boxing champion. let's go back a little. do you think you had too much too soon? >> i don't know, larry. i wanted it. i don't know if i was prepared for it but i know i wanted it. i was prepared to get it. i trained hard and worked hard, you know. >> larry: how old were you when you were a champion? >> 20 years old. >> larry: in reflection, would would you have been better off had you been 25? >> no, because i would have been

obsolete. i would have just been like everyone else. >> larry: so you're glad that you're the youngest person to hold the title? >> yes. >> larry: you grew up in a tough neighborhood in brooklyn. >> you did, too. >> larry: same neighborhood, saratoga park, did you used to go there? >> all the time. >> larry: you had to bust out of that neighborhood? >> yes, probably toughest city in america, poorest city in america. and it's just a world of dog eat dog. of course, it's where murder incorporated originated from. >> larry: you know your history. >> yeah. >> larry: you have brooklyn still in you, though? >> till the day i die. it's just who you are. >> larry: me, too. >> there's something about brooklyn people and it's interesting, because every one

of us always feel different. for some reason if we feel like we're from brooklyn we're the best. don't you feel that way, too? >> not the best. certainly we're a part. >> yeah. people are going to know our name and know where we came from. >> larry: yeah. lots of success stories out of brooklyn. maybe it's because we're like an island. manhattan was out there, right? >> i would say so, yeah. >> larry: still have friends from brooklyn? >> yeah, i do. and it's going to be interesting because this new documentary series that i'm a part of, into the world of pigeon flying and bird racing, you're going to see some of my friends that i grew up when i was a little kid and we grew up flying pigeons together and we're still flying pigeons now. it's ironic how we interact, it's not the mike tyson that you're used to seeing. it's like, get that f'ing bird.

watch out. move down. it's really interesting. >> larry: i remember brando flew birds in a movie. >> on a waterfront. >> larry: what took you to flying pigeons? >> i don't know. i was probably 10 or 11 years old. and i was flying some birds -- some friends of mine had skipped school and i had skipped school, too, because some guys were picking on me all the time. these other guys saw me and said, come here. you have any money? i was frightened and scared and they said, you want to fly with us? i said, yeah, i'm a dope. so they made me climb the fence and high to get those crate boxes and i threw a few of them over and we went to this abandoned building at st. mark's and i'm getting creeped out, why are we in this building. the kids are older than me.

i see pigeons and i'm like, wow. these birds that these guys had, they were really ill conditioned birds. they couldn't fly 100 feet but every time they would fly they would land on a building but they would make me chase the birds and go to another building and go to a corporate building and -- >> larry: they didn't fly back? >> no. they were just so lazy. they had rotten birds. >> larry: so you got to like it? >> yeah. >> larry: why? >> i don't know. i really wish i could tell you. it's like -- >> larry: do you have birds now? >> birds in my house. well, all together, i have birds everywhere that i journey, homes that i live, hang out, i have birds there. all together i have probably around 2500 birds. >> larry: okay, mike, you don't think that's a little weird? >> well, in different places. i don't know. it's always a problem.

>> larry: do they fly and come back to you? >> yeah. >> larry: are they trained? >> sometimes they fly 500 miles and they come back. that's just the pigeon world. it's difficult to explain to a person. >> larry: it's also difficult to explain the world of mike tyson. we'll be right back with the former champ. don't go away. >> i was with some friends of mine, skipping school, and some guys came up to me and wanted to rip me off. i didn't have anything they said do you want to fly birds and i was the little gopher chasing the birds from roof to roof and building to building. i didn't know. i thought it was cool having birds. and then as i got more and more educated, this is what i wanted to do.

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>> larry: we're back with mike tyson. he has talked frequently about changing his life, finding religion. here's a look back at what mike said back then.

let's watch. >> being in here put me in a confinement, in a situation to understand islam. to become a muslim and be proud of becoming a muslim. be more in touch with our law and i understand humble is the best quality. i've been it got me in places that i didn't particularly want to be. but a humble man, more of an easygoing life, i'm willing to live that life. >> my grasp loosened because i got side lined things that had nothing to do with my religion. and i thank god that i grasped and i was working on good. >> larry: there's so many inconsistencies in you, mike. i guess you wonder about it yourself. you find ala. at the same time, you get yourself in trouble over the years with the law, the paparazzi, financial problems. are there two mike tysons?

>> i don't know if there's two mike tysons, but i don't care who you are, richest person, poorest person, hard times fall on everyone. if you're a christian, a muslim, or a jew, atheist, whoever we are, whatever we have with us, regardless of who we are, we have baggage that we have and bring it with us and until we work on the problem that is an inside job, we're going to still be reckless and continue to get into a lot of trouble. >> larry: shouldn't your faith have help you not get in trouble? >> i don't know. i don't know if faith can help me. i have to help me. you know what i mean? god don't help anyone that don't help themselves. so i have to help me. >> larry: do you remember what attracted you or this is hardest thing to explain drugs in the first place? i know you defeated it.

>> i was born an addict. my mother was an addict. so i am who i am. i love who i am and embrace who i am. and that's just who it is. >> larry: were you addicted when you were boxing? >> i've always been addicted. i wasn't using drugs when i was boxing. i didn't do drugs for 14 years but i never considered -- alcohol is a drug, too. but i fight. i'm off drugs 14 years but really i wasn't. that wasn't really true. i was just lying to myself. i would get drunk after every fight, just blasted. >> do you still consider yourself an addict? >> yeah. >> larry: how long sober? >> probably 18 months. >> larry: see, if you were born an addict, your mother is an addict, that can happen at

birth. >> i don't use that for no excuse. no way could i ever accomplish what i've accomplished, you know. you can't help who you are, what you are, but you can sure help your conduct. >> larry: how do you avoid temptation? >> i have responsibilities in my life. i don't want to let my children down anymore. i don't want to let my wife down anymore, i have a lot of things to do in a very short time. >> larry: we'll be back with mike tyson. don't go away. what are you looking at? logistics. ben? the ups guy? no, you see ben, i see logistics. logistics? think--ben is new markets.

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the guy that has the pigeons is the guy that nobody messes with. i always knew the italian guy or puerto rican guy was the man. >> larry: i guess the former heavyweight champion, mike tyson, is an unusual guy.

he has a new show coming out on animal planet. >> thank you very much, larry. >> larry: i don't want to offend you. don't want to make him mad. it's called "taking on tyson." it's about his life and his love of pigeon racing. here's a trip down memory lane. >> i have no intention to go back to boxing and the best moment in my life was when retired. that mike guy was pretty toxic for me at that particular time. he overstayed his welcome. he was finished and i was finished with him. i had to get away from him and become his own entity and creepy. i had to get away from that. this is just a part of me that i don't like and don't understand. this is an awesome guy. >> who is that with you? >> that's my friend mario.

he is a co-host on the show that we're having. >> do we see pigeons flying in that show? >> absolutely. >> larry: when you have a pigeon race, do they have numbers on them? >> of course. they have bands that identify them and everyone gets a team of birds, maybe 30 guys, 100 guys -- it depends. >> where do they race? >> it depends on the duration it depends. >> larry: from l.a. to vegas? >> yes. >> how do you know who won? >> as soon as they come back, you clock the time it gets in and you can't cheat because the time is on the computer and then we wait until -- >> larry: how fast do they fly?

>> 60 miles an hour. >> larry: whoa. that's pretty fast. you can't make money from this? >> yes, you can. >> larry: this was a new world to me. >> no, this was before christ. >> larry: do you name your pigeons? >> no. >> larry: i know you had a bad temper. i remember that phase of you. do you still have it? >> well, not really, but i'm sure you can get it out if you look deep enough. >> larry: i mean, do little things set you off? >> not as much as they used to, no. how about you? >> larry: i'll get it but goes away. i've never held a grudge. >> i wish i could say that. >> larry: you've held grudges? not lately but i have held some before. >> larry: when you were in the

ring, i've had the good fortune of interviewing many boxers. and rocky said he would have rather been a baseball player. he never really liked it. he was good at it but he never liked it and he didn't like the killer instinct. he had to have it. it was in the ring. but he never enjoyed it, really enjoyed it. you enjoyed it, didn't you? >> well, you know, it's funny you say that. in order to accomplish all of the goals that were put in front of me, i had to view myself greater than i really was. i had to be this unstoppable, invincible monster, and that's just what it was. >> larry: so was your trainer forcing you into that? >> no, but i wanted to make him happy.

he was like my father figure. i wanted to make him happy and be the ferocious champion that was invincible. >> what was it like to hit someone hard? >> you know, larry, when you're fighting, actually in the ring, in the ring you're talking about, right? >> larry: yeah. with you it could be anywhere but i'm talking about in the ring. >> i don't know. you practice it most of your life and then you work for it. you expected it. you don't get a big joy out of it. you expect it to happen. if it doesn't happen, then you have a disappointment moment. >> larry: ever feel sorry for an opponent? >> i don't think so, no. it was either me or him at that time. >> ali told me once, hey, all of

these poems, that guy is trying to hurt me. >> yeah, but we can't look at it like that. this is a job. no one put a gun to our head. it's a job. it's more of an art. if you're doing your art correctly, you're not going to get hurt. >> larry: more with mike after this. until one of the guys brought in some fresh bread that he'd made from our pale ale. and from that first bite, i knew my business would never be the same. [ male announcer ] when businesses see an opportunity to grow, the hartford is there. protecting their property and helping them plan their employees' retirement. ♪ beer or bread? [ male announcer ] see how the hartford helps businesses at achievewhatsahead.com.

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i do basically two hours a day. the treadmill or the bike. hour on the treadmill, hour on the bike, may walk two hours. and that's all i do. light weights. >> do you go to fights? >> sometimes. >> do you like watching boxing? >> sometimes. sometimes. >> larry: you're not a big fan? >> i like being entertained. if it's mma, if it's boxing, i just want to be entertained. i want somebody to entertain me. because i like to entertain people so i like to be entertained, too. there are good fighters but people get the two confused. a buy being a confident fighter rather than being an exciting fighter. >> larry: you could go on a quiz show with your knowledge, you know your history, right? >> i used to.

>> larry: you used to name off who beat who. >> because that was my profession. i wanted to be the best at it. i was just crazy about this boxing stuff. >> larry: what do you remember most about that terrible night in tokyo? where buster douglas beat you, biggest upset that night? >> he fought good. >> larry: you weren't trained well? >> he fought great. that set off everything. >> larry: did you know early on you were in trouble? >> yes. yes, i did. >> larry: what told you? >> when i couldn't hit him. >> larry: most of the guys that you fought were taller than you? >> pretty much. i'm not a tall person. i'm 5'10".

>> larry: would you have liked to have fought ali? >> no. that's one of my heroes. i wouldn't want to fight those guys. i like the history made all of these guys that fought before me. >> lewis? >> yes. i watched those guys and said i'm glad that i watched them before me. there's no way that i would have been successful. >> when you see muhammad ali and what the disease has done to him, do you ever fear of something slowing you down as you age? >> i don't know. there's not much that i'm afraid of, basically, in life. when you think about it, the worst thing that ever happened to me is i lost one of my kids. >> larry: can't top that. >> tell me about it. no, i don't think i'm afraid of anything. >> larry: why you live in las vegas? >> because i lived there for so

long, probably 24 years, 25 injuries. i've lived there for so long. >> what do you like about it the most? >> it's just who i am. i know everybody there. it's like my home now. >> larry: isn't it hot in the summer? >> yeah. >> larry: brooklyn kid. >> that's okay. i can handle it. brooklyn kid, we can endure anything. >> larry: okay. by the way, do you think you deserve to be in the boxing hall of fame? >> i don't know. that's not up to me to decide. it's up to people to vote and decide whether i should be in the hall of fame or not. >> larry: do you think you should be? >> i don't know. a lot of my -- i would say -- i think i deserve to be a god but i won't. i will never say that. i just think -- i can't say anything, do i deserve anything? because everybody in their own belief want to be the best in the world of what they

endeavored for. that's what they want to be. >> larry: i sat with you in the ring of las vegas, the eve of your comeback fight, just out of prison. it's a tough way to make a living. you said, i don't want to be a holler to the sport. i'm not going to say something against it. do you still feel that way? >> i owe boxing a lot. so i don't really have anything derogatory to say about it. >> larry: does it owe you anything? >> that's great. but boxing -- i'm not bigger than boxing. i wish i was. no one individual fighter is bigger than fighting. you know what i mean? >> larry: we'll be back with more mike tyson after this. eltz. fast powder packs are a taste-free fizz-free way to transform your drink into a powerful cold fighter! there's a cold front moving in, but relief is on the way.

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we are back with the legendary mike tyson. i asked the aforementioned rocky if he was ever afraid of anyone and he said when he was a kid he was bullied and there was a kid on the block that he was afraid of. do you have anybody that you were afraid of? >> i'm afraid of tons of people, i guess. >> larry: when you're a kid? >> yeah, because you've never fought before. you don't know if you're going to win. confidence is everything. confidence breeds success and

success breeds confidence. >> larry: did you have fights as a kid? >> yes, but i wasn't that successful. i wasn't beating everybody up in the streets. i wasn't that successful. >> larry: did kids beat you up? >> yeah. yeah. >> larry: i wonder if they said, i beat him up once? >> well -- >> larry: you ever run into any of them later on? >> no, never. >> larry: what do you make of the bullying going on today? >> i don't know. it's a different world from when i was a kid. it's a different world. >> larry: do you know why people bully people? i've never understood it. >> people bully people because they were bullied. the abuser becomes the abusee. it's how it goes, right? >> larry: well, bullying people because they are gay or different from you or because they are black?

>> i don't know. we don't know who we are. people sometimes don't understand themselves. it's difficult to understand people and societies now. racism is at an all-time high and -- >> larry: we have a black president. >> all right. that's awesome. people want to feel different, you know what i mean. people want to feel the change that we're fighting for. >> larry: it's never going to end, then? nah, it will never end. >> what? >> larry: racism. >> i don't know. everybody always has smog to be peed off about. >> larry: you are helping a boy with aplastic anemia? >> yes. he and his father and i are very tight. >> larry: do they live in vegas? >> know, they live in jersey city. >> larry: so how did you know

the kid? >> i knew his parents before he was born. we flew pigeons -- >> larry: what is aplastic aneem mea? >> what he needs is a bone marrow transplant. he has these horrific fevers that go over 105 every day. there's no way he can stay in the hospital. he's an awesome little kid. >> so he needs a match? >> yes. >> larry: have people tried? have they offered? >> a month ago i believe we had a rally and we had like 600 people that came out because it's very rare in the african-american and spanish community that we ever get any don lors. >> larry: so you need a black donor, right? >> no, he's a puerto rican child. >> larry: what if somebody wants to try?

>> well, i believe we gave your producers the number. >> larry: you can call that number and try to help this young 8-year-old friend of mike's. mike spent three years in prison. we spoke with him back in 1994 in indiana while he was serving his sentence for rape. >> expect the good, expect the worse. when the good happens, it happens. but i don't expect anybody that put me in prison and the least -- if someone puts me in here and the more polite i am to them and lay back, that's not going to make them -- it's going to make you want to crush them more. if you fight somebody and you hurt them, the objective is not to back you have and let them recoup. it's to smash into the object live general. >> larry: but the law says if you made a mistake? >> whose law? who controls the law of the united states. >> legislatures that have their own agenda. laws mean nothing.

you give me the currency of a country and you can make all of the rules in the world and that's all that matters, who is in control. >> larry: still feel that way? >> i was a real mean guy. i was mean back then, huh? >> larry: i tell you, when you walked into that room for that interview, you didn't like me. >> i love you. you're foolish. get out of here. >> larry: i thank god. we'll be back with more mike tyson after this. [ male announcer ] this is steven, a busy man. his day starts with his arthritis pain. that's breakfast with two pills. the morning is over, it's time for two more pills.

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♪ ♪ ♪ >> larry: that was a funny or die video that mike did recently, a spoof of the bobbi brown song "every little step." why does that crack you up? >> i'm insane. come on. i don't know why i did that. my wife lakeya and wayne brady got together and put something in the play and we did that. >> larry: did they dare you to do it? >> i wanted to do it. i wanted to do it. but i had no idea that it would be so much work. those little dance moves, i

almost had a heart attack. i thought i was doing my little treadmill, i wasn't in shape. i had to start doing sprints because i was just -- my feet felt like they were on fire. >> larry: did you enjoy it? you enjoyed it. >> larry: i had a wonderful time. i'm pursing an acting career. >> larry: concerning that, mike had a stand-up part in one of the biggest movies and one of the funniest movies ever made. in fact, if you watched "the hangover" and did not laugh, you passed away. here is a scene. watch. >> who the hell are you? >> who the hell are you? >> quiet. quiet. >> mike tyson? >> this is my favorite part coming up right now. ♪ i can feel it coming in the

air tonight hold on ♪ ♪ but i've been waiting for this moment for all of my life ♪ ♪ hold on >> larry: you cannot watch "the hangover" and i don't think it ever goes 30 seconds without a laugh. did you read the whole script? >> no. they called me and said, let's do this. hi no idea it was going to be a big movie and -- i was like, let's just do it. i just wanted to do it. but the cast was just -- >> larry: how long did you work on it? >> i don't know. maybe two weeks or so. and it was awesome. i'm very grateful to be part of the cast. i had an awesome cast to work with. they carried me well and --

>> larry: when you saw the whole thing finished, what did you think? >> i thought it was an awesome movie. and the same director did "old school". >> larry: are you going to be in "hangover 2"? >> yeah. >> larry: can you tell me what the scene is going to be? >> i don't know. >> larry: bill clinton is going to be in it. >> that's what i heard. >> larry: all right. truth, you want to be a star? >> i want to be -- >> larry: a movie star. >> it's possible. yeah. i just want to have fun. not take myself too seriously and have fun. >> larry: did you go to the grand opening? to the premier? >> i didn't have time to go to the premier but i've got a lot of reviews and a lot of people gave me alcolades and i'm just really grateful. >> larry: well, you appear to

enjoy yourself before the camera. you were at home. >> well, i've been doing for a long time, pretty much. like i said before, i'm pretty grateful. i could have been going in a different direction right now and i'm just pretty grateful. i've been blessed with a lot of good blessings. >> larry: back with more of mike tyson after this. they come to us for help. at ge capital, we've been financing taylor guitars for over eight years, helping them build a strong dealer network. bringing music to people... i like that. ♪ ♪ [ bob ] i didn't know you could play. i didn't either. ♪ ♪ ♪

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>> larry: we're back with mike tyson. in the what they're calling "hangover 2,". >> yes. >> larry: bill clinton, mel gibson was supposed to be on but they voted him off. >> they voted him off. >> larry: you don't judge? >> i live in a big glass house, you know? i beg that no one throws a pebble at it. >> larry: why did you do that interview with robin givens with barbara walters. >> i don't know. because i was a schmuck, larry. that's why.

>> larry: she's telling all these terrible things about you and you're sitting there taking it. >> i don't know. what should i have done, kicked her in the head? you give me the advice. i want your advice. >> larry: don't go on the show. >> i should have had you as my adviser back then. you had more experience with women than i do. >> larry: yeah, yeah, yeah. all right. what new projects are you working on? have you got something to do with an airline? >> yeah. >> larry: what? >> lv airlines. it's the airline company -- >> larry: las vegas? >> yes. of course you know las vegas is an economical crisis and everything and we're working so hard just to get back to the community, since i'm in the community, las vegas for 24 years. >> larry: short hauls? >> pretty much it's ultra luxury airline. ultraluxury. you know what i mean? it's pretty much taking the place of the concourse, so to speak. >> where does it fly to? >> all over the country to las vegas. >> larry: how many people does

it hold? >> well, i'm not aware of that right now. it comes out next year. >> larry: lv air. are you an investor or spokesperson? >> a little bit of both. yeah. >> larry: you're not putting me on, right? >> i'm very serious. >> larry: i could see you on a luxury airline. welcome, ladies and gentlemen. >> i'm mike tyson. come to las vegas and hang out with me! >> larry: sit down, baby! oh. all right. you've got lv air, a movie career. where do you -- >> and then we have a production company, me and my wife, she inventoried this company called tyrannic and -- >> larry: tyrannic, what does it do? >> it produces movies. it's a production company. we have movies in the making. it's going to be pretty awesome. >> larry: do you ever -- it's well known, do you ever regret

all the -- of the money you went through? >> no, i don't regret anything. nothing i really regret. because i'm just living. i'm just happy to still be alive. there's people that died with billions of dollars and as long as you continue to live, something good's going to happen. we're going to all die anyway, so you might as well continue to go on life, strong, hard, with great tenacity and positivity, make great things happen for yourself. >> larry: rehab about a lot for you. >> excuse me? >> larry: rehab. >> it was awesome for me. >> larry: i had lunch with you while you were in that and that really helped you. >> it was good for me. i'm one of those guys, i need a structure. i never really had a structure. that's why i was successful in fighting. i was structured there. this is what i was born to do and all that ridiculous stuff. so that's what really keeps me on the straight and narrow and pretty much structured with my family, pretty much my whole existence. >> larry: we'll be back with our

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>> larry: we're back. if you see mike with his head down, i just took a shot at him. i hit him. okay. it's all right. you're going to be a father again. >> yeah. that's going to be awesome. >> larry: when is she due? >> february 1st. february 1st. >> larry: you know what it is? >> it's a boy. it's a boy.

>> larry: little mike tyson. >> yeah. >> larry: you going to name him junior? >> no, i'm not going to do that to the poor kid. >> larry: don't -- puts a heavy burden on a kid. >> yeah, that's going to be deep. i don't want to do that. i'm just looking forward to try to do the stuff right. of course you know, i want to do it right. it's my third marriage. i want to do it right. >> larry: there's nothing like being a father. >> yeah. >> larry: nothing. >> there's nothing like being a committed father. you have to be committed and dedicated. this i'm going to be totally dedicated to the situation. >> larry: why did you put those markings on those face? >> because i like it. this is what i wanted to do. when i saw the tattoo i wanted to do it but i didn't find the right tattoo to do it with. >> larry: doesn't tattooing hurt? >> well, yeah, it did hurt a little, yeah. >> larry: hurt a little. >> yeah. >> larry: taking a needle, right? and they're rubbing it into your head. why?

>> because i want to, larry. i want the tattoo, larry. that's why i did it, because i want the tattoo. >> larry: are you happy with them? >> yeah, pretty much. >> larry: you like the look? >> yeah. >> larry: you didn't need anything to tell people who you were. you think it scares people? do you think it -- >> well, if it did i wouldn't be on this show, huh? >> larry: who hit you the worst ever. >> i don't know, everyone. >> larry: was there ever a punch that -- whoa. >> razor ruddic, a couple of guys, holy field, when you get hit it doesn't hurt anymore it's just numb. you just hear the bell ring, bong. >> larry: yeah, it's not pain? >> of course you wouldn't know, if anybody's been clocked, of course if somebody got clocked, they'll tell you you don't feel anything, it's not like your in a lot of pain. when you get clocked and you really get knocked out, you don't feel a thing. >> larry: you're just gone. >> you don't feel a think. >> larry: thank you, mike.