capturing and then releasing another journalist. was it worth it? >> i think so. there's no way to report on the taliban without actually meeting the taliban. with the taliban, you never know if you're going to be a guest or a hostage. but that's the risk you have to take. >> the risk you have to take to understand the talib. an enemy still eluding american troops, still killing coalition forces, still fighting to win control of afghanistan. even after a grinding decade of war. >> larry: tonight, mike tyson. >> i'm insane. >> larry: the former heavyweight champ on life at the top and the

bottom. and how the death of a child and years in prison help redeem him. plus he reveals a childhood secret. >> for tons of people, i guess. >> larry: mike tyson for the hour is next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening, mike tyson returns to "larry king live," the former boxing champion, how are you doing? >> i'm doing awesome, thanks my friend. >> we have been together many, many times over the years. do you ever look back and say, i'm not the guy i was? >> all the time. yeah, it's pretty interesting you said that. that guy said, what was going on? what was happening there? you have no idea what was going on with my life back then. >> larry: what the most changed

you? >> i don't know, i just know i had to grow up. i lost my daughter in some family accident at home and it was just a time to grow up and wake up. >> larry: that was of course the worst incident in your life, right? >> pretty much, pretty much, yeah. >> larry: she died, how? >> a freak accident on the treadmill. >> larry: how old was she? >> 4. >> larry: were you home? >> no i wasn't living with her mother at the time. i was in las vegas and they live in phoenix. and her mother called and told me what happened and i rushed down there, it was already pretty much a done deal. >>. >> larry: you never get over that, do you?

>> i'm just in the beginning stage, so i don't know if you get over it or not. >> larry: do you believe she's in an after life? do you believe she's somewhere? >> i don't know anything. i just know that i have to keep on living. being alive is for the living, and you have to continue living. >> larry: interesting philosophy on life. you're done with boxing, right? >> no. >> larry: you don't wish you could do another hollyfield? >> no, i wish i could. >> larry: do you ever miss it? >> periodically, every now and then. >> larry: you don't go through woulda, shoulda, coulda? >> never. >> larry: a lot of people probably still think you're iron mike tyson, but you're not. and we sent a crew to your home in las vegas. let's show everybody how you spend your days. here's mike tyson, the family man.

>> from the president to the vice president. >> i went from vice president to the president? >> i went from the vice president to the president. say hi, larry. she's shy. this is difficult, but this is a challenge i welcome with open arms. i love this stuff now. >> larry: the life and times of mike tyson, the former welterweight champion. do you think you had too much too soon? >> i don't know, larry, i wanted -- i don't know if i was

prepared for it, but i know i wanted it and i was prepared to get it and i trained hard and worked hard. >> larry: how old were you when you were a champion? >> 20 years old. >> larry: in reflection, would you have been better off if it had happened when you were 25? >> no because then i would have been obsolete, because i was younger than anyone else. >> larry: you grew up in a tough neighborhood in brooklyn? >> you did too? >> larry: same neighborhood, brownswood. saratoga park. do you go there? >> all the time. >> larry: my dad used to take me over there for good humor ice cream. you broke out of that neighborhood? >> it's probably the toughest neighborhood in america. the poorest city in america. it's a world with dog eat dog.

it's where murder incorporated originated from. >> larry: you know your history, right? >> yes. >> larry: brooklyn's still in you, though. >> until the day i die, yeah. >> larry: me too. >> it's just who you are. sometimes brooklyn people -- and it's interesting, because every one of us always feel different. we feel that for some reason, we feel like we're from brooklyn, we feel like we're the best. don't you feel that way too? >> larry: if not the best, certainly we're a part. >> people know where we come from. >> larry: a lot of success stories out of brooklyn. maybe it's because we're like an island, you know, manhattan was out there, right? >> i would say so yeah. >> larry: do you still have friends from brooklyn? >> yeah. it's interesting because this new document try that i'm part of, into the world of pigeon

flying and bird racing and you're going to see some of the kids i grew up with, we were flying pigeons when we were 10 and 12 years old and we're still flying pigeons. it's not like mike tyson and his entourage. it's like get this bird. >> larry: what took you to flying pigeons? >> i don't know. >> larry: how old were you? >> probably 10 or 11 years old. and i was flying some birds, some friends of mine had skipped school and i had -- i had skipped school too because some guy was picking on me all the time so i didn't want to go to school. this other guy said come here, do you have any money? and i was like frightened, scared and they were patting my pockets. they said do you want to fly

with us? so they had me climb the fence and get those crate boxes. we went to this abandoned building. i'm getting creeped out, why are we in this building? we go on the roof, i see a little coup and i see some pigeons, and i'm like, wow. these birds that they had. they were really ill conditioned birds. they were horrible birds. they couldn't fly 1,000 feet. but every time they would fly, they would land on the building. so these guys would make me go in the abandoned building and chase their birds. and so they would go to another building, a corporate building and they were so lazy and they had rotten birds. >> larry: so you got to like it? >> yeah. >> larry: why. >> i really wish i could tell you. >> larry: you have birds now. >> i have birds in my house.

well, all together, i have birds everywhere that i journey, i have homes that i live, hang out, i have birds there. all together, i have probably around 2,500 birds. . >> larry: okay, mike, you don't think that's a little weird? >> they're at different places. i don't know, it's always a problem. >> larry: when you have pigeons, do they fly and come back to you? are they trained? >> sometimes you take them 500 miles. you take them 500 miles, they come back. that's just the pigeon world. it's very difficult to explain. >> larry: it's also difficult to explain the world of mike tyson. former champ, don't go away. >> i was with some friends of mine, i was skipping school, i was around 10, 9, some guys came up to me and wanted to hit me off and i didn't have any money so they said, do you want to fly birds so i went to their coupe and i was they were little

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>> larry: i'm back with mike tyson. he has talked frequently about changing his life, finding allah, finding religion. here's a look back at what mike said back then. watch. >> being in here put me in confinement put me in a situation to understand islam, become a muslim and be proud of becoming a muslim. become more in touch with our law and i understand humble is the best quality. i have been brass, i have been bragadocious before and i just know the humble man lives more of an easy going life and i'm going to live that life. my grasp sometimes loosened because i got sidelined things that had nothing to do with my religion and i thank god that i grasped it and it's working out good.

>> larry: there's so many inconsistencies in you, mike. i guess you wonder about it yourself. you find allah, at the same time you get yourself in trouble over the years, you got in trouble with drugs, with the law, with the paparazzi, financial problems. are there two mike tysons? >> i don't know whether there's two mike tysons, but everyone knows the world don't care who you are, the richest person in the world, poorest person in the world, hard times fall on everyone. regardless of what kind of religion, it could be a christian, a muslim, a jew, an atheist, whatever we are, we bring your baggage to our religion with us, regardless of who we are, and until we work on the problem that's an inside job, we're going to still be reckless and continue to get into a lot of trouble. >> larry: shouldn't your faith have helped you not get in trouble? >> i don't know.

i don't know if faith can help me. i have to help me. you know what i mean? god doesn't help anyone that doesn't help themselves. so i have to help me. >> larry: do you remember what attracted you? i mean this is the hardest thing to explain, to drugs in the first place? i know you defeated it. >> i like to believe that. i was born an addict. my mother was an addict. so i am who i am. but i love who i am and i embrace who i am. and that's just who it is. >> larry: were you addicted when you were boxing? >> i have always been addicted. i have always been addicted. i wasn't using drugs when i was boxing, but it was so interesting. and i said i didn't do drugs for 14 years, but i never considered alcohol was a drug too. but i would get drunk before every fight. i said i'm off drugs for 14 years, but really i wasn't. that wasn't really true, i was just lying to myself.

i would get drunk after every fight, blasted. >> larry: do you still consider yourself an addict? >> yeah. >> larry: how long soeber? >> probably 18 months. >> larry: if you were born an addict, your mother is an addict, that can happen at birth? >> no, i don't use that for no excuse. because if i use that for an excuse, no one could ever have accomplished what i have accomplished. you can't help who you are or what you are. but you can sure help your conduct. >> larry: how do you avoid temptation? >> hey, i have responsibilities in my life. i don't let my children down anymore, i don't let my wife down, myself down anymore. >> larry: we'll be back with mike tyson, don't go away. this is the iphone 4.

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for a guy to have a pigeon is the guy that nobody messes with. i always knew the italian guy or the puerto rican guy that had the pigeons in the neighborhood was the man. >> larry: the former heavyweight championship and my friend. mike tyson is an unusual guy. he has a show coming out this year on animal planet. it's called -- don't offend him. don't make him mad. it's called taking on tyson. it's about his life and his obvious love of pigeon racing which we have already discussed. here's a trip down memory lane, watch. >> i have no desire to ever think about going back, i don't

miss boxing and i think really the best moment of my life was when i retired because i was too into that character, that i am mike guy, and that guy was pretty toxic for me at that particular time. he had overstayed his welcome. you know what i mean? he was finishing, i was finishing with him. i had to get away from him. he became his own entity and it became kind of creepy. the it's a part of my life they don't understand. i like this guy, this is an awesome guy. >> larry: who's there with you? >> he's my friend mario and he's the co-host on the show on anim anim anim animal atlanta. . >> larry: how do you race birds?

>> let's take our birds 1,000 miles, let's take them 100 miles, let's take them 70 miles. it depends. >> larry: okay. let's say you're going to race 200 miles. do they race all the way to vegas? >> i'm sure, yes. >> larry: and how do you know who won? >> well, as soon as they come back, the bird gets in, you clock the time, you clock the time he gets in and you can't cheat because it's timed on the computer and then we all -- >> larry: wait? how fast do they fly? >> 60 miles an hour. >> larry: whoa. that's going pretty good. you can make money with this. >> yes, you can. this is big money. but we're not doing it for money, we're doing it for bragging rights. >> larry: how do you make money in pigeon racing? >> it's one of the biggest sports in the world. >> larry: this is the end of the world to me.

>> this is the world before christ. >> larry: do you name your pigeons? >> yes. >> larry: i know you have a bad-temper. i remember that phase of you, do you still have it? >> i'm sure you can get it if you get deep enough. >> larry: do little things set you off? >> not as much as they used to, no. how about you? >> larry: i get it, but it goes right away. but i have never held a grudge. >> larry: when you were in the ring, you were -- i have had the good fortune to interview many, many rockies, and many heavyweight champions. rocky marciano, he never really liked it. he was good at it, but he never really liked it. he didn't like the killer instinct. he had a habit. he was in the ring. but he never really enjoyed it.

you enjoyed it, didn't you? >> well, you know, it's funny you said that. because in order to accomplish all the goals that was put in front of me, i had to view myself greater than what i truly was, so i had to get into a character and be this unstoppable, invincible monster. and that's just what it was. >> so is your trainer forcing you into that? >> no, but i wanted to make him happy. he was like my father figure, i wanted to make him happy. i wanted to be the ferocious champion that was inventionable. >> larry: what was it like to hit someone hard? >> larry, when you're fighting actually in the ring -- in the ring, you're talking about, right? >> larry: with you it could be anywhere, but i'm talking about in the ring. >> i don't know, you practice it

for most of your life and then you accomplish it in the ring and you work for it. you anticipate it, you expect it, you don't get a big joy out of it. if it doesn't happen, then you have a disappointment moment. >> larry: ever feel sorry for an opponent? >> i don't think so. no. i have all the admiration and respect for him but it's either me or him at that time. >> larry: ali told me, hey, all these poems and everything, that guy's trying to hurt me. >> you can't look at it like that, this is a job, nobody's putting a gun to our head. it's art. if you're doing it correctly, you're not going to get hurt. >> larry: more with mike after this. [ sneezes ] client's here.

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>> larry: we're back with mike tyson, do you still train? do you keep in shape? >> i do two hours a day, either the treadmill or the bike. an hour on the treadmill, an hour on the bike. and that's all i do? >> larry: you go to fights? >> sometimes. >> larry: do you like watching boxing? >> sometimes. sometimes. >> larry: you're not a big fan? >> i like being entertained. if it's boxing, i just wanted to

be entertained. i want somebody to entertain me. that's what i like to do, i want to entertain people rvel. so if i'm not entertained, i don't go. there's not too many entertaining heavyweights in the boxing world. they're good fighters, but they're not entertaining. people can be a competent fighter rather than being an entertaining fighter. >> larry: you were both. you could go on a quiz show with the subject of boxing. you know your history, right? >> at one time i did. i knew a little bit, yeah. >> larry: you used to name off all the champions, who beat who? >> yeah, because that was my profession. i wanted to be the best at it, so i wanted to know the whole history. i was just crazy about this boxing stuff. >> larry: what do you remember about that terrible night in tokyo when buster douglas beat you. the biggest upset of all time?

>> actually he fought well that night. he really fought good. >> larry: you want trained well? >> i could have been better trained. but the fact is he fought great. and that really set off everything. >> larry: did you know early on you were in trouble? >> yes. yes, i did. >> larry: what told you? >> when i couldn't hit him. i thought this is going to be difficult. >> larry: that was a pretty good sign? >> yeah. >> larry: frustrating? and most of the guys you fought were taller than you, right? >> pretty much, yeah. >> larry: people don't realize that. >> i'm pretty short, i'm 5'10". >> larry: would you have liked to have fought ali? >> no, i don't want to fight ali. that's one of my heroes, i don't want to fight those guys. i like all those guys before me, dempsey, ali, turny. >> larry: lewis?

>> marciano. i was like i'm glad i had those guys to watch before me. if i hadn't had those guys to watch, i wouldn't have been successful. >> when you see ali and you see what the disease has done to him, do you ever see something slowing you down as you age? >> there's not much that i'm afraid of in life. you think about it, the worst thing that happened was i lost one of my kids. so i don't think i'm afraid of anything. >> larry: why do you live in las vegas? >> i lived there for so long. i lived there for probably 24 years, 25 years. i lived there so long. >> larry: what do you like about it the most? >> it's just who i am. i know everybody there. it's just -- it's like my home now. >> larry: isn't it hot in the summer? >> it's hot. >> larry: you're a brooklyn kid. >> that's why a brooklyn kid can

do anything. >> larry: do you think you deserve to be in the boxing hall of fame? >> i don't know, that's not up to me to decide. it's up to people to vote and decide whether i should be in the hall of fame or not. >> larry: do you think you should? >> i don't know. i think i deserve to be a god, but i won't, but i can't say anything, do i deserve anything, because of course everybody in their own belief they want to be the best in the world in what they endeavor to do. >> larry: i sat with you in las vegas, the eve of your come back fight. you were just out of prison. i asked you if it was tough to make a living. you said i'm not going to say something against it. do you still feel that way? >> i don't know, i owe boxing a lot. so i really don't have nothing

interrogatory to say about it. >> larry: does it owe you anything? >> well, i don't want anything from it. >> larry: you got a lot of money from it. >> that's great. but boxing, i'm not bigger than boxing, i wish i was, but no one individual fighter is bigger than box iing. >> larry: we'll be back with mike tyson after this. function, starting within 15 minutes. symbicort will not replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. it is a combination of two medicines and should not be taken more often than prescribed. symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol increase the risk of death from asthma problems, and children and adolescents may have an increased risk of being hospitalized for asthma problems. symbicort is not for people whose asthma is well controlled with a long-term asthma control medicine like inhaled corticosteroids. once your asthma is well controlled, your doctor will decide if you can stop symbicort without loss of control, and prescribe a long-term asthma control medicine.

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>> and the first question was do you think you're the best in baseball? >> i'm still a yankee. >> it's just amazing that people like to take shots when they don't really know you. >> we get paid millions and millions of dollars to play the game that we have been playing since we were kids. >> larry: we are back with the legendary mike tyson. i asked the aforementioned rocky marciano once if he was ever afraid of anyone.

he said when he was a kid, he was bullied. and there was a kid on the block that he was afraid of. was there anybody that you were afraid of? >> tons of people i guess. when you're a kid, it's easy to get bullied, you have never fought before, you don't have the confidence. confidence is everything. confidence breeds success, success breeds confidence. if you don't have confidence, you don't go nowhere. >> larry: did you fight when you were were -- >> larry: did kids beat you up? do you think people were sitting around saying i beat him up once? >> no. >> larry: what do you make of all this bullying going on today? >> i don't know. it's just a different world from when i was a little kid. it's a different world. >> do you know why people bully

people? i never understood it. >> people bully people because they were bullied. that's just the way it goes. the abuser becomes the abusee, that's just how it goes, right? >> larry: but bullying people because they're gay or because they're different from you or because they're black? >> well, i don't know, we don't know who we are, some people don't understand themselves. so how do they understand -- it's difficult to understand people in societying now. people just don't want to get along. you think racism is at an all-time high. >> larry: we have got a black president. >> all right, that's awesome. people want to feel different. i mean we have a black president, but people want to feel the change that we're fighting for. >>. >> larry: it's never going to end, then? you think it will ever end? >> what? >> larry: racism. >> people have to have something to be peeved off about, i guess. >> larry: you were trying to

help a young boy with aplastic anemia? >> yeah. >> larry: he's an 8-year-old kid? >> yeah, he's like my nephew in a way. me and his father are very fight. their pigeons fly with me. >> larry: do they live in vegas. >> they live in jersey city. >> larry: how did you meet the kid. >> i knew his parents before he was born. we flew pigeons since we were a little kid. >> larry: what is aplastic anem anemia. >> basically what he needs is a bone marrow transplant because he has these horrific fevers that go over 105 every day. and there's no way he can stay at home, he has to stay in the hospital. >> larry: so he needs a match? >> yes. >> larry: have people tried? >> yes, a month ago we had a rally and we had like 600 people came out. because it's very rare in the

african-american and spanish community that you're able to get any donors. >> larry: so you need a black donor? >> no, he's a puerto rican child. >> larry: he probably has to be latino then. >> i just hope that somebody can get a match. >> larry: what if somebody's watching now that wants to be able to try? >> we gave the number. >> larry: you can call this number to help this 8-year-old friend of mike. eight years in prison, we spoke to him back in 1994 in indianas sentence for rape. >> i expect the good and accept the bad. if someone puts me in here and the more polite i am and the more i lay back, that's not going to make them take their foot off your neck. if you're in a fight with

someone and you hurt them, the objective is not to -- >> larry: the law of the united states? >> who says that the law of the united states? who controls the laws of the united states. >> larry: the legislators. >> legislators that have their own agenda. laws mean nothing, you give me the country you can make all the laws in the world. that's all that matters, who's in control. >> larry: still feel that way? >> i was a real mean guy, arrogant. i was mean back then. >> larry: i tell you, when we walked into that room for that interview, you didn't like me. >> i love you, you're foolish. get out of here. >> larry: thank god. we'll be back with more of mike tyson after this. oh, my gosh! ♪ [ male announcer ] you know her. we know diamonds. together we'll make her holiday.

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>> larry: that was a funny or die video that mike did recently, a spoof of the bobby brown song "every little step." >> i'm insane, i don't know why i did that. my wife and wayne brady got together and they put something in the play and we did that. >> larry: did they dare you to do it? >> i wanted to do it. but i had no idea that it would be so much work. those little dance moves, i almost had a heart attack. i thought i was doing my little treadmill. i knew i wasn't in shape. i had to start doing sprints because my feet felt like they were on fire. >> larry: but you appeared to enjoy it. did you enjoy it? >> i'm per suing an acting career. >> larry: concerning that, mike had a standup part in one of the biggestgest movies and one of t

funniest movies ever made. in fact if you watched the hangover and did not laugh, you passed away. here is a scene. watch. >> who the hell are you? >> no, who the hell are you? >> quiet, quiet. >> mike tyson? >> shhhh. this is my favorite part coming up right now. ♪ i can feel it coming in the air tonight ♪ ♪ oh, lord ♪ but i've been waiting for this moment for all my life ♪ ♪ oh, lord >> oh, geez. >> larry: you cannot watch "the hangover" -- in fact i don't

think it even goes 30 seconds without a laugh. did you know -- did you read the whole script? >>ed ed ttodd phillips called said let's do this. i had no idea it was going to be a big movie. so i said, let's do it. but the cast was just -- >> larry: how long did you work on it? >> maybe two weeks or so. >> larry: so you put a lot into it? >> yes. >> larry: it turned out awesome, i'm very grateful to be part of the cast. >> larry: when you saw the whole thing finished, what did you think? >> i thought it was an awesome movie. the same director did "old school" i was an awesome movie i thought. and i never had any idea we would surpass that. >> larry: are you going to be in hangover 2? >> yes. >> larry: will you be playing yourself? >> yes. >> larry: will you tell us what

you will be doing? >> doing some stuff, i guess. >> larry: bill clinton is going to be in it? >> i guess. >> larry: truth, do you want to be a star? >> i want to be a -- >> larry: a movie star? >> it's possible. i just want to have fun. not take myself too seriously, just have fun. >> larry: did you go to the grand opening? did you go to the premier? >> i didn't go to the premiere, but i had a lot of people that gave me accolades and i'm just very grateful. i'm going in a different direction right now. and i'm pretty grateful. >> larry: back with more of mike tyson after this. but if you're hurt and miss work does it pay cash like aflac does?

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>> larry: we're back with mike tyson. in "hangover 2," bill clinton's going to be in it. mike tyson, mel gibson was supposed to be in it but the cast voted him off. >> i could never vote anybody off of nothing or judge anyone, trust me. >> larry: you're beyond -- you don't judge. >> i live in a big glass house and i beg that no one throws a pebble at it. >> larry: why did you do that interview with robin givens with barbara walters? >> i don't know. >> larry: why did you do that? >> i was a schmuck back then, larry. that's why. >> larry: you sat there and she's telling all these terrible things about you and you're sitting there taking it. >> what should i have done, larry? kicked her in the head. >> larry: no. >> i want your advice, larry.

>> larry: don't go on the show. >> i should have had you as my adviser. you have more experience with women than i do. >> larry: yeah, yeah, yeah. all right. what new projects are you working on? do you have something to do with an airline? >> yeah. lv airlines. >> larry: las vegas? >> yes. las vegas is in an economic crisis and everything. and we're working hard to give back to the community since i've been in a big community, las vegas, for 24 years. >> larry: is the airliner short hauls? >> no, it's ultra luxury airliner. it's taking the place of the concord, so to speak. >> larry: where does it play to? >> from all over the country to las vegas. >> larry: how many people does it hold? >> well, i'm not aware of that right now. but next year, it's going to come out. >> larry: lv air? >> yes. >> larry: are you an investor? are you a spokesperson?

>> a little bit of both, yeah. >> larry: you're not putting me on, right? >> i'm very serious. >> larry: i could see you on a luxury airline. welcome to lv air. >> i'm mike tyson. come to las vegas and hang out with me. >> larry: sit down, baby. you've got lv air. you've got a movie career. where do you -- >> and we have a production company named -- my wife, she invented this company, called tyrannic. it's going to be pretty awesome. >> larry: do you ever regret all the money you went through? >> no, i don't regret anything. nothing that i really regret because i'm just something living. i'm happy to still be alive. there's people that die with billions of dollars.

they're not here no more. as long as you continue to live, something good's going to happen. we're going to all die anyway. might as well continue to go on with life hard -- >> larry: rehab did a lot for you? >> yeah, rehab was pretty awesome for me. >> larry: i had lunch with you while you were in that. that really helped you. >> it was good for me. i'm one of those guys, i need a structure. i never really had a structure. that's why i've been successful in flying, because i was structured there. i believed this is what i should do and what i was born to do. that's where keeps me on the straight and narrow, i'm structured with my family. it's pretty much my whole existence. >> larry: we'll be back with our remaining moments with a good guy, mike tyson. what up, dave! [ click ] i just point, shoot, and post to facebook. so instead of fumbling to open my camera app

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>> larry: we're back. if you see mike with his head down, i just took a shot at him. i hit him in the -- okay, it's all right. you're going to be a father again?

>> yeah. that's going to be awesome. >> larry: when is she the due? >> february 1st. >> larry: do you know what it is? >> it's a boy. >> larry: little mike tyson. >> yeah. >> larry: are you going to name him junior? >> no, i'm not going to do that to the poor kid. >> larry: that puts a heavy burden on a kid. >> that's going to be deep. i don't want to do that. i'm looking forward to try to do this stuff right. you know. i've been married to my third marriage. >> larry: there's nothing like being a father. >> yeah. >> larry: nothing. >> there's nothing like being a committed father. you have to be committed and dedicated. this is going to be something new on me to be totally committed and dedicated to the situation. >> larry: something i've meant to ask you. why did you put those markings on your face? >> because i liked it. when i saw the tattoo, i wanted to do it. >> larry: doesn't tattooing hurt? >> well, yeah, it did hurt a little, yeah. >> larry: hurt a little.

they're taking a needle, right? and they're rubbing it into your head. why? >> because i want to, larry. i wanted the tattoo, larry. that's why i did it. because i wanted the tattoo. >> larry: are you happy with them? >> yeah, pretty much. >> larry: you like the look? >> yeah. >> larry: you didn't need anything to tell people who you were. do you think it scares people? >> if it did, i wouldn't be on this show. >> larry: who hit you the worst ever? >> i don't know, everyone. everyone that hit me -- >> larry: was there ever a punch that, whoa -- >> yeah, ray. holderfield. when you get hit. it's just numb. you hear a bell ringing. >> larry: it's not pain? >> no. well, of course, you wouldn't know -- if someone got clocked, they'll tell you, yeah, you don't feel anything. it's not like, oh, y