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assassin. she plans to return to florida when the launch is rescheduled. hello, i'm don let lemon. the biggest tart of the white house correspondents dipper would have to be donald trump. both president obama and seth meyers zinged him over and over again. >> don thald trump has been saying he'll run for president as a republican, which is surprising since i just assumed he was running as a joke. >> all right. so if the donald thought that was funny, he should have told it on his face. we have donald trump live on the phone with us. thank you for joining us. you didn't seem to like seth's jokes that much last night. >> actually, i thought the president's performance was much better. i thought that seth had a hard time getting the words out. marshals in his mouth. he had a hard time with his speech, but i hosted "saturday night live" and understand seth. i never got him, but his
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presentation was very poor and got some pretty poor marks. i thought the president actually did much better. i mean, the presentation certainly was a lot better. >> so you didn't like his jokes. i ins understand you thought they were too personal and pretty political. >> they were pretty personal, but i expected that i was going to be zinged. people really weren't sure if they were going to mention me at all or mention me a little bit. nobody had any idea it would take up a majority of both speeches. >> come on, donald, you new they were going to mention you. >> i didn't know. that a lot of the reporters were thinking, do you think they will mention you or mention you a lot? i really had no idea. i certainly as it turned out, i certainly wouldn't have thought they would have mentioned me as much as they did. but look, it is my honor. i understand it. i was walking into it. i have been there before. and i thought it was an entertaining evening. >> i have to say this because i watched last night, donald, but
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i also watched the comedy central roast of you. i was wondering why you weren't laughing because last night those jokes were pretty tame compared to the recent comedy central roast. let's listen to it and we'll talk about it. >> donald, as long as i have you here, it is pronounced huge not uge. and it is prounderstand noed i am [ bleep ] delusional not i am running for president. >> at the end we saw you laughing, it is almost the same joke we showed you from seth meyers. some people may have been watching wondering where your sense of humor went. >> interestingly enough, the comedy central which was a tremendous success for them and for me because i raised a lot of money for charity, they paid me a lot, which i have given to charity, so therefore i could laugh a little bit more. i just felt -- i actually felt some of what the president said was pretty good. i thought the picture of the white house was funny. that actually got the biggest laugh of the evening. and i thought that was quite funny myself. i just thought that seth's
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presentation was very poor, but i'm sure he'll work on that. >> listen, i want to talk to you about this. and i no e that you say the media keeps asking you this question, but i have to ask you this. this is my whole thing. a lot of people say about this birther issue, the birth certificate, the question is why do you care so much? can you retroactively go back and unmake barack obama the president? >> well, don, it is not me that cared, it was a lot of people. i was very proud of the fact that i was able to get him to get this birth certificate. hillary and bill clinton couldn't get him to do it. the mccain campaign worked hard to get it done. don, i think what is important for people to know is that my strength is jobs, the economy, making sure that china and opec and all of these countries that are laughing at us and ripping us off won't be doing it, believe me, if they have to deal with me. and this country can be rich again, it can be great again, but it is not going to be with this administration. >> let me ask you this, i have
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to jump in here. >> now you bring up -- even now you bring up the birther. let's get off that. >> hang on. in that comment of what you just said, it sounds like you are running for president are. you running for president? >> i'm getting very serious thought. as you know i'm not allowed to say because i have a major show on, a very successful show, but i'm announcing some time prior to june. i think a lot of people will be very happy with my announcement. >> i think from your discussion of what you have been saying, it sounds like when you say things like that you are definitely running for president. we bring up that issue of the birth certificate, mr. trump, because people want to know why you care so much. and you realize, you realize this, that this whole issue about what exactly natural born is has never been challenged in court, so we don't even know if it would apply to president obama if he wasn't born here. it wasn't even litigated when john mccain wasn't born in the united states and was born in panama. so that's why people are
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wondering why you care so much. >> 75% of the republican party and lots of other people thought that there was a good chance that he wasn't born here. i want to really get on to the most important subjects, which are jobs, which are, by the way, your gasoline is going to cost you $5 a gallon, $6 and $7. the problem i have had, don, is every time i go into a show, instead of talking about my strength, which is exactly that, and dealing with people so we become a rich country again, every time i go on they start talking about the birther issue. interestingly, i just watched david axelrod on television, he almost wasn't blaming he me. he said the press kept asking the question. that's why it came to the forefront. >> i saw that, mr. trump. he brought up another issue i would love to talk to you about, and that's race. you were talking about that this morning on "meet the press" right? he brought up the issue of race. people are sending me tweets saying why are you having this racist guy on in why are you
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giving him more attention? we'll take a quick break to talk about the race issue. as an african-american, i want to ask you about that. >> i really have to go, but i do want to tell you i'm the least racist. i am a wonderful person as far as you would be concerned as to racement. and i think everybody knows me knows that. >> are you aware of the stereotypes of african-americans? are you? >> well, i don't know what you mean by stereotypes. define that a little bit in greater detail. >> the stereotypes that take place in america about african-americans, one is they are not as smart as whites. when you talk about someone like the president and challenge whether or not he is deserving to go to ivory league schools, you are promoting one of the stereotypes about african-americans. and as someone running for president of the country, which means everyone, then wouldn't you be sensitive to those issues in the culture? >> it certainly does mean everyone, and it means everyone to me. as far as i'm concerned, the president is a very smart man.
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and i think a comment about racism is ridiculous as it applies to me. and people that know me laugh at it. they think it is so stupid. it is a ridiculous statement. and as certainly ridiculous as it applies to me. >> what about the comment you said when you referred to the blacks that you had a good relationship with the blacks, do you understand how some people will take that phrasing? >> some people do and some people don't. i have heard it both ways. it is something that i said. and i think i have had many people say it was absolutely or there was absolutely nothing wrong with that comment. >> you don't feel there was anything wrong with it? >> no, i see shows advertised "positively black." i see another show advertised "black agenda" on msnbc. "the black agenda." when i say that, very few, i have to tell you, there's been very little talk about it, but every once in a while somebody will bring it up. i see absolutely nothing wrong with it. >> those shows aren't called
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"the blacks agenda" or "the gays agenda" or "the whites agenda." >> i think this, i have had many friends say that's not a problem, that statement. every once in a while i hear somebody say, he should have said it differently. the fact is i want to focus on jobs, i want to focus on the economy, i want to focus on the fact that nations are laughing at us and ripping us off and taking our money and taking our jobs. and that's what i'm best at. >> okay, so listen, what is it in your contract that you cannot state whether or not you are running? >> i think it would be -- not in my contract, but i think it would be inappropriate during the run of "apprentice" to take a statement that i will run. but in my own mind i know what i'm going to be doing. the show ends on may 22nd. and some time shortly thereafter i will be making a statement. >> there have been initiatives online and on twitter people are
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saying they want to boycott me because i have you on. boycott trump. they don't want your products, hotels, your television, they are going to boycott nbc because of your show. what do you make of that? >> well, i don't think it is true. and as you know, "the celebrity apprentice" ratings are through the roof number one on nbc. i'm doing great and well. any time you want to boycott me, that's okay, don, because i don't have to do this show. >> all right. donald trump, thank you for coming up. >> thank you very much. >> mr. trump, maybe just phrasing things a little bit differently. >> well, i have done pretty well the way i have preaz phrased them before. >> i know. but when people take offense to it in the culture, maybe it is something you need to think about. that's all i'm saying, if you are running for president, running for president of the united states you have to be sensitive to all in the united states. >> i think i am sensitive to all people and think i have great relationships with all the people. and the word racism has never
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entered at any time any sense of respect to me and i'm proud of that. >> i do have to say, you do call back and do the interviews. i must say, you came on this show and many others, i appreciate you coming on. thank you very much. >> thank you very much, don. it is an honor. for many of those who may have missed last night, we'll replay the highlights of the correspondents dinner throughout the show. if you want more information on what we are covering with donald trump with other stories, reach out to us on twitter, on facebook, and on foursquare.com, on cnn.com/don. come back to me on camera quickly. i'm going to have a diversity expert and tim wise to talk about the whole race issue. we'll have a discussion on this, a lengthy discussion. weigh in online if you want to. it will happen right after the break. don't go anywhere. in 2011, at&t, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars
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i want to play this to you and you weigh in on it. stereo types play in on african-americans. one is they are not as smart as whites. when you talk about the president and challenge whether or not he has an education or deserves to go to ivy-league schools, you are bringing up and promoting one of the stereotypes about african-americans. and as someone running for president of the country, which means everyone, then wouldn't you be sensitive to those issues in our culture? >> it certainly does mean everyone and it means everyone to me. as far as i'm concerned, the president is a very smart man. and i think a comment about racism is ridiculous as it applies to me. and people that know me laugh at it, they think it is so stupid. it is a ridiculous statement. and as certainly as ridiculous as it applies to me. >> tim wise, what do you make of that? >> well, look, this is part of a long-standing white conservative narrative that people of color are getting things they don't deserve because of affirmative
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action or racial handouts. so either donald trump is the most uninformed individual in the western world because he doesn't know how his comments fit that narrative or he knows full well what he's doing and is deliberately pushing the buttons of racial resentment. this narrative has been around a long time and seems like whenever a person of color attains a high position, whether it is pat buchanan or donald trump, rush limbaugh, whoever it is, they question whether it was deserved. they don't give out this at harvard law but pilling names out of the had. you have to earn that. the fact that he inherited millions of dollars from his daddy, they would question anyone on what they have learned with the definition of irony. >> buck davis? >> this first thing we are talking about the influence of money and power donald trump has in the country. he's a leader whether you like him or not. he changes minds. with power comes responsibility. and when you have a fella like donald trump whose questioning grades, it quickly sounds like
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he's questioning academic ability which quickly jumps to questioning intelligence. when a white man with privilege questions, i just went out, questions a black man's intelligence, it sounds very racist and very stereotypical. i think he probably is a very wonderful man, a very smart maun, but it is a prime example how a wonderful, smart man can make a mistake. >> why wouldn't he understand that? >> i think donald trump is in a league of his own. he's operating within a tremendous amount of privilege. and i don't think he would admit that he's made an error. well, i just heard it, he won't admit that he's made an error like that. it is a grave error on his part. >> but does it necessarily mean, tim, let's go to tim, does that necessarily mean he's racist? >> no, no, i think buck and i would agree, i don't think the terminology is to say whether or whether or not he's racist. he is pushes buttons of racial
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resentment. i have a hard time buying his sincerity. there's nothing on the record to suggest that donald trump ever questioned the academic credentials of the last president with a "b" student at yale. donald trump would say, i was very critical of george w. bush, true, but he never went to that place of saying what was this guy doing in yale. and we know that donald trump by his own admission gave a lot of money to john mccain and sarah palin's campaign. john mccain graduated second or third at the bottom of his class in annapolis. he was only there because his dad by was an admiral. sarah palin barely graduated at all. i'm not trying to be cruel, but i don't know how don thald trump can pose as the protector of academic credentials. and that's why when he does this with regard to this man of color it pushes this racial button. it is a very common narrative and one that any responsible person who wants to be president needs to be aware of. and he is either totally unaware
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or doing it on purpose. either way, it is fundamentally disqualifying him as a leader of this country. >> i asked that question of him saying, don't you realize when you do this that you have a responsibility or at least you should. i'm okay, i'm comfortable with saying that, if he is running with president he's supposed to be responsible. i'm giving you the last word here, buck, whether he's racist or whatever, is it the same outcome whether he is doing it willingly to push buttons or whether he's doing it and doesn't realize it with the same outcome? >> it does have the same outcome but it doesn't impact donald trump or president obama. it will impact a group of people in this country who are fighting a lot of barriers themselves. it impacts people of color. so those folks have their empire, young, black men in this country are fighting barriers on their intelligence and are losing opportunities. and this just reinforces how someone who is very smart who
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has a huge position in this country and a leader can unintentionally, i do believe it was gun intentional, slam a group of people and possibly create yet another barrier for them. >> buck davis, tim wise, thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. next up here on cnn, the president throws jabs at his political opponents. >> michele bachmann is here, though, i understand. and she is thinking about running for president. which is weird because i hear she was born in canada. [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible.
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when you were sworn in you looked like the guy from the old spice commercials. now you look like louis gosset sr. >> when you come to the white house correspondents dinner, you have to be ready the to laugh at others and yourself. it seemed like everyone found themselveses a punch line at saturday night's dinner starting with the president. here's some of the highlights. >> as the state of hawaii released my official long-form birth certificate -- tonight for the first time i am releasing my official birth video. ♪
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>> i want to make clear to the fox news table that was a joke. that was not my real birth video. it was a children's cartoon. call ziz knee if you don't believe me. they have the original long-form version. where's the national public radio table? you guys are still here? that's good. of course, the deficit is a serious issue. that's why paul ryan couldn't be here tonight. his budget has no room for laughter.
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michele bachmann is here, though, i understand. and she is thinking about running for president. which is weird because i hear she was born in canada. yes, michele, this is how it starts. just letting you know. tim pawlenty -- he seems all-american but have you heard his real middle name? tim hosni pawlenty? what a shame. donald trump -- is here tonight. now i know that he's taken some
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flak lately, but no one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like did we fake the moon landing? what really happened in roswell? and where are biggie and tupac? all kidding aside, obviously, we all know about your credentials and breath of experience. for example, seriously, just recently in an episode of "celebrity apprentice" at the statehouse the men's cooking
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who told you i had birth certificate jokes in it was assange, wasn't it? >> seth myers is the head writer of "saturday night live." he took aim at the president to the press and, of course, politicians. some called it mean but there was no denying his time at the mike made people laugh. >> this evening i'm going to be making a lot of jokes about many of the people in the room, but don't worry, i assure you no matter how harsh the jokes they have been vetted by the top at the top, chinese president hu gin tau. before i start, these are my birth certificate jokes, to
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thank you for the timing of that, mr. president. now unusable. we were working on these jokes for months. one of my guys said, are you worried we are heavy on birth certificate jokes in what if he released it before the dinner? i was like, why would he do that? he's not going to wait three years and then release it before the dinner. who told you i had birth certificate jokes? it was assange, wasn't it? is biden still vice president because if not i'm down to like, thank you and god bless america. just look at the options the republicans are kicking around, palin, huckabee, gingrich, dump, that doesn't sound like a field of candidates, that sounds like season 13 of "dancing with the stars." both rand paul and his father are looking to run which is
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something i have in common with my father, we are not going to get elected president. if you look up booring in the dictionary, that's more exciting than tim pawlenty. he makes al gore look like rupe hall. donald trump is saying he'll run for president as a republican which is surprising because i just assumed he was running as a joke. donald trump often appears on fox which is ironic because fox often appears on donald trump's head. gary bucey said that donald trump would make a great president. of course, he said the same thing about an old rusty bird cage he found. donald trump owns the misu.s.a. pageant great for republicans because it will streamline their search for a vice president.
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donald trump said recently he has a great relationship with the blacks, though unless the blacks are a family of white people i bet he's mistaken. at the beginning of his term, mr. president, housewives were trying to sneak into the white house. now everyone is leaving, axelrod, gibbs, rahm emanuel, by this time it will be you and joe biden trying to find toner for the copy machine. so it is not a strong field, and who knows if they can beat you in 2012, but i tell you who can definitely beat you, mr. president. 2008 barack obama. you would have loved him. so charismatic, so charming, a little too idealistic? maybe, but you would have loved him. we remember the inauguration day with the first lady there, for as beautiful as you looked that
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day, you look more beautiful tonight. now you on the other hand, mr. president, have aged a little. what happened to you? when you were sworn in you looked like the guy from the old spice commercials. now you look like louis gosset sr. i never said this to anyone before but maybe you should start smoking again. is this the change you were talking about? mr. president, look at your hair. if your hair gets any whiter the tea party is going to endorse it. >> all right. coming up here on cnn, highlights from the white house correspondents dinner. more including seth meyers poking fun at the media. also, residents in the south are recovering from devastating tornadoes. we are back in a moment. what's this option? that's new.
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their primary message was to reassure survivors they won't be forgotten and the federal government will provide the needed assistance. flooding is a problem in other places. the tiny illinois town of cairo is facing pressure from rising water on both the ohio and mississippi rivers. the army corps of engineers is considering blowing up the levee in missouri to ease the pressure. that could save the town but it would send floodwaters pouring across thousands of acres of missouri farmland. missouri has already lost one court case to stop the demolition. it is now asking the u.s. supreme court to step in now. monday's launch of the space shuttle "endeavour" has been delayed a week. nasa says it will now be next sunday at the earliest. the delay was prompted by concerns over the shuttle's heating system. arizona congresswoman gabrielle giffords was in florida but returned to houston today where she's been in rehab after being shot by a would-be assassin. she plans to return to florida when the launch is rescheduled. libyan forces opened fire on
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the rebel city of misrata today in the heaviest shelling scene in weeks. and in tripoli groups described as organized mobs ransacked empty embassies belonging to the u.s. and several other countries. the attacks followed word that nato air strikes killed gadhafi's son saif al arab gadhafi. moammar gadhafi was in the same building but survived. nato says it does not target individuals. remember that air france jet crashing into the atlantic ocean two years ago? a memory unit of part of the flight data recorder was recovered from the ocean floor today. and officials hope it will help provide some answers to the crash, what causing the crash. all 228 people aboard the airbus a-330 were killed on the flight from rio de janeiro to paris in 2009. okay. more now with seth meyers, the featured speaker at the white house correspondents dinner.
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>> there are actually unscheduled parties happening tonight. i have been asked to give them a rundown, fox news is having a party, security is tough, make sure you bring your driver's license and long-form driver's license. if you are blonde bring that smile. the new york party times was free but tonight there's a cover. so like everyone else, i'll just go to the huffington post party. and "the huffington post" party is asking everyone else to go to the other parties first to steal food and drinks and bring it from there. i love arianna huffington, especially her voice. she sounds like a woman sitting up in bed with a sheet wrapped around her as james bond is walking out the door. would i steal a gun, james? this is a year of sweeping changes happening in tv news. katie couric is leaving cbs. she was known best for asking those tough questions, like,
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name a newspaper. katie is one of the many departures we have seen. juan williams was fired after saying "muslims make him nervous." he is the least likely man to get a cab in new york city. msnbc's keith old olbermann was suspended from his show. still the punishment seemed harsh compared to the slap on the wrist larry king gave after giving a buffalo campaign to the campaign of chester arthur. cnn replaced larry king with piers morgan this year like the old expression out with the old, in with the who. rick sanchez, you are gone but forgotten. not everyone is leaving. anderson cooper is at cnn. and i love watching hill him report from the field. you can tell how much danger he is in by how tight his clothing
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is. if he's in the bulky quell yellow slicker, thes a hurricane stilloff shore. if he's in the khaki vest, he's in the green zone in bag ded. when he's in the child-size white t-shirt, bullets are flying, he's pulling kitten out of the rubble. so what i'm saying is if you see anderson cooper with his shirt off, turn off your television and run. my friend and colleague from msnbc, brian williams, is here tonight. he was coming because tonight as the element he most respects in an evening, cameras. i'm not saying brian loved being on tv, but when he went to egypt it was because he heard it was their pilot season. all joking aside, i have nothing but respect for my good friend brian. i don't know if anyone heard this, but he landed in london to cover the royal wedding only to turn back around to return to america to cover the tornadoes in alabama. it was incredibly brave and courageous and that is a direct quote from brian williams.
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talking across washington really and beyond. and i talked about it with three people who know comedy and politics very well. aaron lewis is a political anchor and median pete domenick is host of sirius radio. liz, aaron, pete, listen to seth meyers talk about donald trump running for president. >> this is surprising because i just assumed he was running for a joke. >> so, liz, you believe seth meyers did the most damage when it comes to donald trump? >> i do. the president was at a hockey game. the president set him up and he slammed it. and finally because we have been living with this donald trump crazy train of birth certificatism, if you will. and to finally be able to have
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the president say his peace and then have seth meyers just tear him down, it was -- i felt very funny as a viewer. and the whole room felt, like, good. to watch him sit and stare like he had no feeling was completely gratifying. >> oh, my gosh. sociopath, you said it. and crazy train. >> i said it. >> so pete, this next clip is for you. seth whieers meyers is talking about donald trump's hair. >> he often appears on fox which is ironic because a fox often appears on donald trump's head. >> okay, pete. fox and fox and hair. >> don, you are right, no one loves a hair joke or a bad hair joke or a lack of hair joke better than myself.
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and this was a great one because as a bald man i'm not in denial. i embrace it. donald trump has always rejected it. he needs to come over to the dark side, if you will. but listen, i disagree a little bit with lizz and your question in that seth meyers did the most terms in humiliating him, but the president can do a lot of damage. we'll never see a trump presidential candidate because he's more of a democrat. he couldn't win a primary in mississippi, but it was good to see what the president obama strategy would be. you just focus on "the apprentice" and meatloaf. he is kind of a joke. >> the next one goes to arrow. seth was funny when he talked about the president aging. and i thought a really funny thing he said, if your hair gets any whiter, the tea party is going to endorse it. >> yeah. yeah. there was a lot of humor. of course, he is playing to the
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room, you know, a tea party convention wouldn't find that funny at all. in fact, they would be pretty upset, but there was a lot of that. look, this is to the extent that there was an east coast media elite. this is their annual meetings and their shareholders report. they were having some fun at the expense of a lot of people who have caused them a lot of pain, frankly. and that's both politically and otherwise. they have been the targets of a huge amount of attacks. i'm sure you get it with the mainstream media. you are a bunch of crazy lefties who don't understand the real america. this is their chance to say, we've got our own point of view. and we've got our own jokes and have our own language just like the tea party. >> thank you to lizz, errol and pete. there you are from gawker.com. you have a lot to say i have been reading. you are going to weigh in on the president's humor, seth meyers humor and donald trump, how the night went, coming up.
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i, you know, would see these people who were targeting me. my story is similar to some of your stories, how you felt targeted because of who you were. >> the high school history teacher believes making connection with his students is key to his success in the classroom. that's why he's open about being gay. >> this is north carolina. not necessarily known for being the most liberal part of the country. what was the reaction to you once you got in the building? >> a little surprise at first but overall it's been very positive. >> what about those families who don't want you talking about your section actuxualitysexuali. >> i'm not talking about sexuality. i'm talking about my life. >> why do you think people care about the sex you'll orientation of a fak tul member? >> i think it's important to send a mess taj to my students that being honest is important. >> the decision to come out may not be so clear-cut for other
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educator educators. >> there are still places in our country where an individual could lose their job based upon their identity. >> in north carolina, like many other states, there are no laws to explicitly protect gay educators. this high school english teacher isn't as open as green. >> parents can feel less secure with you being their child's teacher if your sexuality is not what they feel is traditional. the truth is, i'm a teacher. who happens to be a lesbian. in the same way i happen to be kind of short and have hazel eyes. it's just part of who i am. >> steve perry, north carolina. >> it brings your best minds and their brightest ideas together. it helps the largest of companies seize opportunity like the smallest of startups.
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it's the network-- the intelligent, secure cisco network that lets your employees, partners, suppliers and customers innovate and share so you can unleash the power of your most valuable asset: your people. donald trumpb often appears on fox, which is ironic, because a fox often appears on donald trump's head. >> that joke is funny every time you hear it. donald trumpb taking taking a l licks yesterday and we talked about trump about the jokes, the
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birther issue and allegations of racism he's facing over his loud criticism of president obama. here's part of our conversation. >> as far as i'm concerned the president's a very smart man and i think a comment about racism is ridiculous as it appears-a replies to me. people that know me laugh at it. they think it's so stupid. it's a ridiculous statement. as certainly as ridiculous as it applies to me. >> i want to bring in now mau maureen o'connor at gawker com. i've been reading gawker all week. you heard donald trump ertrumpe heard him in that interview and you saw him at the dinner. what do you think? >> he's inherently humorous. orange colored flesh and flesh colored hair. i think donald right now likes to say he's so loved by the public. if you were to actually run for
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president, he must know he can't really answer most of the questions a president has to answer. last week on gawker we reported asked about his vietnam war, why he didn't serve? he said, i was lucky, i had a high draft number. that's something you can say if you're celebrity. if you're running about president you have to talk about donald got five deferments to get out of the vietnam war. admitted last week that he actually exaggerates how much wealth he has. he says, i think everybody exaggerates that kind of thing. those are the things you can do when you're just seeking attention, you can exaggerate and fudge details. if he was running for president, he has to know that he can't actually answer a lot of these questions. >> so what you're saying -- so you're saying you believe the polling about donald trump is false polling because we don't know that much about his background, we don't know that much about his finances, again, there were people who said that bill clinton, george w. bush
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were draft dodgers. is this going to stick with trump, you think? >> you know, i think right now we're at such a level of hypotheticals with donald trump that it's almost like, well, you know, what go you want, snooki to be your president? heck, why not. i hope at least the american public if push came to shove would think seriously about a man who says china is, quote, the enemy. is that someone you really want to be your president? when it's a far away hypothetical you can say, sure, he hasn't answered serious questions about policy, so then you can say, yes, of course. you're right, it's not an accurate poll of whether people would actually be showing up to vote for this kind of zeern a short time left on the air. we'll get bumped off. i have to ask you, you did digging on his finances on gawker this week. what did you find? >> we -- he is not as wealthy as he says. this something that's come up repeatedly, that he exaggerates his success as a businessman.
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he's successful as a self-promoter and reality star. in terms of manages businesses, which is what he claims he manages businesses, he's not that good at it. >> thank you. gawker.com, i'll check in on it throughout the night tonight. have a good evening. don lemon, thank you so much for joining us. what an interesting hour. i'll see you back here at 10:00 p.m. eastern. a larry king special "alzheimer's epidemic." witnessed snowfall on the first day of spring. ♪ but the most beautiful thing i've ever seen was the image on a screen that helped our doctor see my wife's cancer was treatable. [ male announcer ] ge technologies help doctors detect cancer early so they can save more lives. bringing better health to more people. ♪ is non-stop to seattle? just carry new preparation h totables. discreet, little tubes packed with big relief.
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