on this special in my essay in "time" magazine and at time.com. also, check out our new innovation channel on our global public square blog. you can find it at cnn.com/gps. thanks for tuning in. you can catch us sundays in our normal time slot, 10 a.m. eastern and pacific.cnn.com/gps. thanks for tuning in. you can catch us sunday at other normal time slot. thanks again. >> tonight before there was lindsay there, was paris. you're probably thinking you don't know anything about paris hilton but this is the other paris, the one that you don't know. >> i haven't seen you since we got married in vegas. good times. >> miss hilton's made her share of headlines. but she's never told the real story until tonight. >> paris, a girl's got to have some secrets but i'll tell you everything. after all, we were married, sort

of. >> paris hilton, her fabulous life, her loves, her scandals and what her mother thinking of the whole she bang. >> paris, did you really marry piers? >> paris and kathy hilton tell it all. this is "piers morgan tonight." >> kathy, paris, welcome. >> thank you. >> how are you both? >> very good. >> really good. >> do you feel like you've been through the lie lion's den tonight? >> a little bit. >> why? >> i always get nervous at interviews especially at cnn. >> why cnn? >> because it's just a very serious place and you make me nervous. >> do you think people take you seriously? >> when people know me they do. >> would you like to be taken more seriously? >> i would, definitely.

>> why? >> because i feel like i've really grown in the past couple of years. i've just turned 30. i'm an adult. and i feel like i deserve it it. >> i want to play your mother a clip. she may know the scene before. to illustrate her role in this little triangle. you know where i'm going here. let's watch this. >> yes. >> i do now pronounce you husband and wife. piers, you may kiss your wife. >> thank you. >> remember, piers, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. but i'm keeping the ring. >> that is hysterical. >> so kathy, we are actually married. i don't know if you knew this. >> i did hear about in. she called me. >> we also committed the worst kiss in two television history. it was like two bull frogs colliding. we're not legally married. it was a documentary i was making in vegas about all chose

chapel weddings and stuff. you've you'd never been in a wedding dress before. >> that was it. >> how did it make you feel? >> it was exciting. it was fun. i think everybody has to get married in vegas at least once. >> what i remember most about that day i spent with you was you had these two voices. it was a bit like your friend michael jackson who you knew very well. very high-pitched sort of quite silly voice for part of it, which was the brand if you like. and then the moment i talked about business, boom, your voice dropped a few okay tafs. suddenly i saw a completely different paris hilton. michael jackson was the same. he had the two voice thing. >> it's more about being shy, believe it or not. they go to that place -- >> are you saying paris is shy? >> she can be. >> really? you can be shy? >> yes. >> she can. >> i am. >> i find that almost impossible to believe. >> it's hard to believe, but it's true. >> why are you here?

>> here with you? >> at the interview. >> because i missed you. [ laughter ] >> that is perfectly understandable. but actually you're here to promote something. but you wouldn't do it otherwise, would you? part of your brand you control pretty ruthlessly, nothing wrong with that, is you come on to promote stuff. what are you promoting? >> i'm here for "the world according to paris" which is my new tv show. >> i love that title. "the world according to paris". how interested are you in the world? >> very. >> are you interested in world affairs? >> yes, i am. >> when you see women in the middle east, do you have a healthy interest or does that kind of stuff not really tough touch your life? >> i have so much stuff going on in my life that that yes, i do pay attention to what's going on in the world but i also focus on my business. >> kathy, you've been on this tv

show quite a lot. >> yes. >> what's it like being paris hilton's mom? >> it's been quite an experience. it's been quite a ride, i must say. >> she's a phenomenon of modern times. this kind of -- there aren't many others like you. i mean, in britain we have katy price, i guess, someone like that. here you have the kardashians and others. people who have become famous for being famous. i hope you don't find that an offensive term. no reason why you should. but built these incredibly business empires around being a brand. >> i think with paris to me she's just my daughter-in-law we're out somewhere in public. and i see all of the craziness. one day we were in las vegas and we were supposed to meet at the store in the mall. and i had stopped at another store first. and i saw all of these policemen with the hats and the clubs and like this craziness. like a prize fighter was coming out. and all the people, "that's

paris hilton". and it was weird because i couldn't wean get to my own -- they were running by. i couldn't even get to my own daughter. so then you stop and look at that and go, wow, that's intense. >> i've seen the same thing. i went to one of your fragrance launches. it was just madness, mayhem down there. but it seems to me because the media that likes to ridicule you also loves to feed off you. i see that as a former newspaper editor, you know, you used to sell papers. and yet at the same time, nothing we used to like more than mocking paris hilton. do you find that easy to deal with? are you happy with that relationship with the media? >> you know, it really bothered me when i first came out to the media when i was 15 years old. it was really hurtful. i would cry to my mom about it. but it's been happening for so long now that i just don't pay attention. i have so many positive, amazing things in my life that i don't really like to focus on negative things.

>> do you, though? >> not really. my publicist will send me articles. >> if you came on "america's got talent." what would your talent be? >> hmm. singing. >> you know, you can sing. >> i'm recording my new album right nowers too. >> are you a serious singer? are you a brand that sings as an extension of your brand? >> it's just part of my brand. i see myself as a businesswoman, a brand. and singing is something that just add to my brand. >> that's funny. the kardashians, we got a bit of flack for doing that. people said why are you doing that on cnn. but i find this phenomenon really fascinating, the fact that you can build this empire, this brand, out of being you, whether people like you or not or take you seriously or not is almost immaterial. the fact is that millions and millions of people around the world live their lives vicariously through you and are fascinated. otherwise you wouldn't have this business. kathy, what do you think of

modern fame in that sense, that you can actually see your daughter paris not going through a conventional talent, acting or any of those kind of things, but just being paris hilton and making all this money? >> it's been as you said a long time in the making. and she does work so hard. it's a lot of work and traveling. and she's very dedicated. >> do you worry about her? >> i used to, but i really don't as much anymore. i'm a lot calmer now. >> because she's behaving better? >> she's behaving better. she's grown up. and she's been through a lot. >> you said that you feel like you're an adult now. that's because you turned 30. but in a way you became an adult at 18. >> but she's still like a little girl. and that i think is one of the very attractive, sweet qualities that she has. i can scold her and yell at her and she'll be like, "okay.

". >> why are people so fascinated by paris, do you think? >> i think that she has a famous last name. she's very attractive. she is daring. she's willing to go out there and then if she stumbles she picks herself back up and dusts herself off. and she's very ambitious. and a lot of people look at her and say, well, why does she have to go and do anything? she's a strong character. >> that's what i said when i defend you to people. i'm a fan of yours because i like the work ethic. like i do with the kardashians and others. people work hard and they work on creatively developing a brand. they make lots of money. i see you in no different light to a businessperson at all, to some kai tune running a retail business or whatever. it's the same principle involved in developing and marketing and promoting and making money from a brand. so i get that. but i it seems to me, you said that in "the simple life" that

it wasn't really you. is the show that we're now going to see more the real paris, do you think? >> the show is all real. everything that happens. and i feel like i was finally ready to show who i really was. and i'm really honest in the show. and there's a lot of things in the show i can't even believe i'm going to let air. but i want it to be as real as possible. and people to get to know me. i feel like there are so many misconceptions out there. >> what are the misconceptions about you? >> i think there's definitely a lot. having the last name hilton people assume everything was handed to me and i never had to work a day in my life. but in reality i've worked so hard. i've done this all on my own. i don't take anything from my family. i do everything by myself. >> that is laudable. no question. >> and also she's not as -- she's kind of thrifty in her own way, i think. the public has this perception that she has no regard for money and she's spoiled rotten. i remember she and nikki wanted cell phones when we moved to new york.

and i was like, there's no way. you're 15 and 13, you're not getting cell phones. well, everybody else has one. and she tried to explain that it's for safety reasons. so finally, after about six months, i gave in. and then she'd lose the cell phone. so that's over. but ill think that public or the media has run with that so much. and it's so not true. >> lots of girls in your position, you know, come from the hilton family would have probably just not bothered working at all. you didn't need to. that's what i mean about saying it's laudable what you've actually done with your life. because again whether people like you or not doesn't really matter. it's the fact you do work hard. >> yes. >> and i can admire the ethic there that comes from somebody who had every reason if you wanted to to not work at all. how much of that was due to your parents? >> just growing up, my parents never spoiled us. they always made us want to do something on our own. i think i have a name where i have a lot to live up to.

and i didn't want to just be known as the hilton granddaughter. i wanted to build my own empire and do something on my own. i think it's just something that runs in my blood, wanting to be creative and do big things. >> i wig interrupt to say that my husband is self-made. i met him when i was 15, he was 19, we got married four years later. we had paris a year later and live in the a tiny little apartment. and if you saw a picture of it you would not believe it. and we have done everything on our own. and yes, you have a name. but the door can be shut right in your face, too. >> do you get frustrated? is sounds to me like you do. about this kind of sense that you've just been born into this? you're all just a bunch of rich socialites? >> it is to me frustrating. because people that know us know the truth. >> how would you characterize the hilton family in terms of

values? >> they have incredible values. my father-in-law, my mother-in-law is now gone. all of my brother and sister-in-laws, i have seven brother and sister-in-laws, everybody is very honorable. they wouldn't lie to you. they don't brag. they are a ichb credible -- -- incredible. i really respect them. >> let's take a short break. when we come back i want to talk to you, paris, about the moment that catapulted you into the celebrity stratosphere. l i coul! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our pediatrician gets all the information. everyone works as a team. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for 70 million americans.

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my special guests paris and kathy hilton. now, let's cut to the quick here. your career was tottering along quite nicely the then came this infamous sex tape. and you were suddenly catapulted into this completely different league of modern celebrity. take me back to -- i don't want to belabor the point about this. but take me back to the moment you knew this was all going to go public many how did you actually feel? >> i was in shock. i had no idea. and we were in australia when i

heard the news that someone had been sent a clip, one of the entertainment shows. and i didn't believe it at first. and then when i landed back in l.a. is when i saw what happened. and i was -- it was the most embarrassing, humiliating thing that's ever happened to me in high life. >> did you call your mom? >> yeah, i did. i was so embarrassed to even call her and tell her about it. >> how did you even begin to tell your mother something olympic that? i can't imagine. >> i just called her crying. >> do you remember, kathy? >> you know, i don't. it's all like a fog right now. and it was a very difficult time. >> i mean, awful. although -- >> we had to keep her home for like three months straight. you know it had to have been very embarrassing. >> which is what you had to do as a family to try to protect paris.

>> she would not leave the house. i mean, she was -- and we lived in new york, too. so wherever you're going, there are those boxes with the newspapers with "the "new york post" ""the daily news kwgds. and it was constantly -- i'd have to take my sons to school and walk them in. and they would be sitting on the front at the reception desk. >> i mean, nothing worse for a mother, i wouldn't have thought, to see a daughter exposed in that way. and however much people laughed at you, paris, over it all, i know from talking to you before about this, it's an incredibly intimate thing for any woman to go through. this was not for public consumption. i'm sure you regret ever putting anything on tape like that. but that still doesn't merit what happened. >> yeah. >> how did you get her back on

trac track? >> we had therapy. and i think that that really helped. >> what do you say to someone who is in paris's position? what can you say? >> i didn't know what to say. so that's why i reached out for professional help. and also to be able so that -- to help so i could explain to my sons and mickey, you know, our whole family was affected. my husband. >> i don't like -- oh. not good. >> what do you feel about him now? >> i just -- just felt so

betrayed. this is not some random guy. this was someone i was with for a few years. >> that you loved? >> i thought i did. and i can't believe that he would do something like that to me. it's something that changed my life forever. you know, when i was a little girl i looked up to people like princess diana and these women. and i feel like he took that away from me. and this is not what i planned. i didn't want to be known as that. and now when people look at me, they think that i'm something i'm not just because of one incident one night with someone who i was in love with. people assume, oh, she's an slut just because of one thing that happened to me. and it's hard because i'll never -- i'll have to live with that for the rest of my life and explain it to my children. and it's -- i don't know. it's something that's changed my life forever. and i'll never be able to erase it. >> i mean, the worst thing about it, it seemed to me -- and i can

tell how upsetting this is for you, kathy. i totally understand that. is the worst thing for both of you the fact that internet, which in many ways -- >> do you have a tissue? >> yeah. do you want to take a little break? >> no. i'll just -- >> we'll get you a tissue. okay, at&ty? there you go. >> thank you. >> leave the box here. yeah. >> what is the worst thing about this the fact that the internet, which in many ways has helped you become this huge star, nothing to do with this tape just generally you use the media and the internet's a very useful tool for you with your web site and everything else. the worst thing for both of you is always going to be there. >> yes. >> one click away. >> it's part of your landscape. >> i could tap in paris hilton

sex tape on google and up it comes. and just page after page of links. you can never extinguish it. it's there forever. >> right. >> and like you said, you're going to have children one day. >> right. >> your grandchildren. they're going to find this and they will find it and they will see it. and i mean, i can't imagine how awful that must be. >> it's just -- it's stupid. and we didn't have cameras like that when i was a teenager or -- you know, you just can't take pictures and do stupid things. even with somebody that you're with. because you just never know. and paris, that's the one thing that really drives me crazy about her. she's so trusting. and daring. and i think she's learned, too. and also when you ask me how we reacted with her, she knew -- she was as hurt as we were in

seeing us in pain and seeing her in pain. it was just like -- we just all came together and were just supporting each other. >> i mean, extraordinarily i see people now -- >> and it doesn't go away. i mean, it's something that will always -- >> i see people now, you know, pretty low-ranking celebrities, who i suspect are almost deliberately creating sex tapes and putting them out there. >> it's disgusting. like it's some recipe. >> like it's almost part of becoming a celebrity. >> well, i can say this, that paris already had 14 or 12 to 14 pages in ""vanity fair"". i think that we have to give donald trump and also brayden carter from "vanity fair" some credit. because they both, you know, donald donald -- actually was handling her modelling career and talked

us into allowing him. we were friend with him. then grayden spotted her in new york. and did this whole story on her. so that really was when people started to see, you know -- >> certainly the tape wasn't the first we heard of you. you were building a very nice career for yourself. "vanity fair" was a key part of that. i know that. having donald trump supporting you as a model, very, very important given all his relationship with all the pageantry, the beauty contests and so on. and he's a powerful ali to have. oh, yes. >> when this whole tape thing blew up, what did donald trump say to you? >> i said he was furious at -- >> he was angry. >> he was really angry. and supportive of me. >> did he give you advice on how to deal with it? >> dad and i talked with him mostly. when he'd see paris he'd hug her and go "i love you". really supportive. >> he was so supportive. >> when you see your mother this upset by it, it must really

upset you, doesn't it? it does me and i'm not one of the family. it's hurtful to see any more be this upset by something like that. >> it is. it's something that we don't talk about. >> we don't ever talk about it. >> i try not to think about it. yeah, it's something we just don't talk about. >> we're going to take a break. give you a bit of time to have a breather here. when we come back i want to talk to you about fame, about celebrity, about what can clearly see can occasionally be a pretty bad down side to the up side that comes with being famous. plavix helps protect people with acs against heart attack or stroke: people like you. it's one of the most researched prescription medicines. goes beyond what they do alone by helping to keep blood platelets from sticking and forming dangerous clots. plavix. protection against heart attack or stroke

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right now with kathy and paris hilton. obviously very emotional part of the interview just now. it made me think hard, really, about modern fame, whether it's really worth it. and obviously it's very lucrative to you, paris, and the family, i guess, benefit from some of the fun stuff that goes with being very famous. but when i see your mom in that state, i see a down side which is clearly there. what do you think of the whole fame game now that you've had enough time to be in it for awhile? >> well, i've been doing this for 15 years now. so half my life. and there's it's ups and downs. it's hard sometimes.

there's so many amazing things that go with it. but just like anything there's the bad and the hard that goes with it, too. >> what are the things you wish you didn't have to put up with? other than what we've just discussed? >> one of the things in the media, there's all these people who i've never met before or maybe people from my past who want to sell stories and make money. so they'll make up these crazy stories. and people believe them. >> i'll play devil's advocate. i'll represent the media. which i used to run big newspapers in britain. i would listen to you say this and say come on, paris, you play this game smartly, you play it aggressively. you use the media to make money. you know the argument comes the other way. this is a tough question but a simple one. are you really entitled to any privacy given the amount of your private life that you put out there for commercial gain? >> well, when you're in this business this is what you sign up for.

so there's going to be no privacy. >> is that a price worth paying? in the end? >> sometimes, sometimes not. >> unless you have a really thick skin. >> i've really grown a thick skin over the years. and i've had so many things said about me. and it's hard, but i feel like what else could happen at this point? everything bad that could happen to a person has happened to me. >> if you try to correct it, then you're making it a bigger deal. but the new way with the media is they will call you and say, "we have a story and we're going with this. we've got a source that says blah blah blah." and so do you want to comment or not? and they know that it possibly isn't even true. but they will just go with it. >> if i could offer you a deal where paris didn't go through that door marked "fame".

as a mother now would you take that deal and stop her doing that, stop her becoming famous? i mean, she's got harder. >> if she didn't have to go through what we had just talked about? yes, obviously. i mean, i did think she was going to be a veterinarian. >> did you? >> she was a tomboy. she didn't even care about clothing or any of that until we moved to new york. >> you could have been a vet. >> that's what i wanted to be. i love animals. since i was a little girl it's always what i wanted to be. >> paris, you hang out with a lot of people. lindsay lohan and all those guys over the years. some of whom have really fallen badly. >> yeah. >> why is that? why do some manage to deal with the fame and fortune and celebrity and others just fall by the wayside? what do you think is behind that? >> i think it has a lot to do with your family. i'm so fortunate that my parents have been together forever. they're so supportive.

they're there for me. they love me for me. and i think these other people, you know, their parents are living off of them. and i don't know. they just don't have that home life. i don't know. if i didn't have my parents, i don't know where i'd bed to. i feel very lucky to have my mom and dad and i love you. >> i love you. >> you see now, i feel that. i think that is the truth, a lot of this. a lot of these people are damaged, you look at the parents, you look at their upbringings. there's always something there. often it's a lack of love. be amazed the number of people i interview where they said they never got told by either parent or at least one of the parents that they loved them ever. it's almost like they then go and crave it somewhere and that craving leads to other cravings. and they become addictive personalities. but through this lack of basic human commodity, love. >> i have a lot of love. and my parents were very strict growing up. my mom i think was a little too

strict. made me rebel. >> do you think you were? >> yes, i do. >> deliberately do you think? >> well it was my first child and i thought, this is my little china cup. and i didn't want it to break. and i think i was probably too overbearing and strict. and that's why she would start to sneak out. >> and the rest is history. >> paris, when we come back i want to talk to you about your very good friend michael jackson.

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back with the hill tons. kathy, this is fascinating. a lot of people claim to have known michael jackson. you actually went to high school with michael jackson and you stayed close friends with him right until the end of his life. and you've never really spoken about it much in public, not what i can see. tell me about your relationship with him. >> we met when i was 13 and he was 14. and developed a friendship. and a bond throughout the years.

and we always kept in touch. and then when i moved to new york and he would come and we'd always go to his concerts. and you know, we started with -- we used to make prank phone calls together. and we were little kids. we had a really great time. and then he came and visited when paris was born. and then he ended up living at at the waldorf. >> so he was there when paris was first brought into this world? >> a few months old. >> he ended up moving into the waldorf when we were thering there for eight years. then right before he died he was at the belair hotel where we were living while we were renovating our home. so he was there about three or four months. so we got to spend a great time. >> talk about misconceptions of paris, what were the misconceptions about michael, do you think? >> well, there was not a kinder, more generous, loving, sweet,

smart -- i can't -- the most wonderful father. at the belair he did not have nanny at all. and when i'd go to pick up the kids to take them somewhere, he'd be brushing their hair and buttoning up the sweater and just so warm and wonderful. and i just -- i love him. his whole family. they're a really wonderful, beautiful family. >> where were you when you heard that he'd died? >> i had just come back to the hotel. >> and how did you hear the news? >> my assistant told me. and i literally fell on the floor. and my sister came and picked me up and we went directly to the house. because i thought the children would would be there. >> did you go to the hospital? >> yes. >> and what was the scene there? >> the children and mrs. jackson and all the brothers and

sisters. and just everybody was in this room. and just crying and hugging each other and just in a daze. and this is a father that was so with hi children, he's dedicated since they were born to raising and being with them. and then latoya and randi took me in to say goodbye. ity think if i hadn't i would never quite in my head believe. because even though he was a friend he was such a powerful person. >> was he still alive when he took you in? >> no. >> could you say anything? >> yes. >> what did you say? >> i rubbed his head. and his arms and his legs and his feet. and i just -- i told him i love him so much. and whispered some funny things

to him. and that was it. >> kind of a sad end to his life, wasn't it? >> and he was so fabulous at the hotel. up early every morning, playing with the kids. really shocking. >> paris, did you know michael well? >> yeah. i grew up just my mom i remember one of my first memories i have of him was when my mom took us to the music video set of "thriller". and we have the pictures still. and i just always loved him. i used to go to his concerts. and he'd bring my sister and i on stage. and we would sing up there. and i just always loved him so much. he was -- >> paris was out of town. and he said to me, "kathy, i'd like to go see paris". i said, "well, she's out of town". >> i'd like to see her recording studio. i said, okay.

all right. i saider just jump in the car. it was like 8:0030 at night. i said we don't have to get any security right now. let's just go. rick will drive. you jump in the back. and so the kids came and we all went up. and we were up there at paris's. and he loved to look at everything. so he's looking at all the pictures on the walls. and he loves art. and her closet and then all her collections of pinocchio and tinker bell and all of that. and he said, "she reminds me -- she's -- what did he say? something like, she reminds me sometimes a little bit of the way certain things that i like. and he loved the gold and the frames. >> you took him to the studio. >> i took him to the studio. and he got to see everything. >> he was extraordinary talent, wasn't he?

and he took your name of course for one of his children. how did that make you feel? >> i was honored. >> was it a direct result? >> you know what, latoya will tell you the story. when we were younger, we all would say that whoever has the first girl is going to name her paris. and i had the first girl. so i got to do it if first. and then when he had his daughter -- >> have you seen the children much since he died? >> i saw them a couple weeks ago. i went out and had dinner. and i can't believe how they bear. we went over there about three weeks ago. >> have they been well looked after? >> are you kidding? they're in a new house. and mrs. jackson is there. they have an incredible, beautiful home, great security. and we had a big family dinner. and they went up and did their homework and came down and showed grandma.

and had their bath. and said good night, grandma. i love you. it was great to see them. >> is a kind of feeling -- because i guess of the impending court actions involving the doctor and his death and everything else, that he'd become a sort of pathetic character towards the end, addicted to all this medication and so on. is that an inaccurate portrayal, do you think? >> i can tell you that when he was at the belair hotel, there was none of -- there wasn't any -- none of that. because he was right underneath where i was. and we talk all the time. in fact if we would be going somewhere in the daytime he'd say, 1:00 down at the fountain. and if i was five minutes late, i mean, he was very on top of it. and he was with his kids. i believe in my heart that as he got into the concert thing, it was hard for him to sleep, probably. he was not a drug addict. he had a problem going to sleep.

this is not something that recreationally would abuse something. and then i guess the levels just went up and up and up. >> what do you think his legacy will be? michael jackson? >> well, i think now that he's gone everybody realizes what a good person, all the wonderful things that he's done for charity. and it's interesting that we don't hear -- well, i won't get into any of that. but just -- he's left three beautiful children. >> who will be his legacy, i think. >> absolutely. >> going to take another break. when we come back, paris, i want to talk to you about your business empire. let's get to the nuts and bolts of how you've ended up so stinking rich. was an archer drawing his bow. ♪ could that have also inspired its 556 horsepower supercharged engine?

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stationery, bedding. i do everything. i just launched 1th fragrance. >> what kind of volumes do these sell? these things? do you know? do you keep a handle on them? >> i don't think you know that part. >> i do know but i don't like to discuss money. >> why? >> i don't know. it's something my mom always taught me. it sound obnoxious when people do that. >> the most recent thing i read says you make about $10 million a year. i would imagine it's more than that, isn't it? >> yes. >> don't talk about money or politics. >> is it a lot more? >> i do very well for myself. i'm very proud of what i've done. >> don't talk about money or politics, your mother says. >> both. >> that's extraordinary that you're making just like this absurd amount of money. >> i feel really proud of what i've accomplished. >> what is brand paris? if you were pitching it to me? what is that? what do you personify? >> fashion, fun, excitement and

amazing products. i really am passionate about every single thing i do. and i really believe in everything. and i've worked really hard to achieve all this. >> and do you know what you're worth? i mean, do you keep a close eye on the money? >> that i bet she does. little miss cheap -- little cheap skates here. >> yeah, you do? >> down to every -- what's this? what's this? >> i don't like to be taken advantage of. i feel like people when they think you have money they like to take advantage. >> she forces me to do her dirty work. mom, you've got to call her and tell her. >> how do you trust men? given what happened before that we discussed earlier? and given you're now incredibly rich. i wish when we got married i had sign a paper. i would have had money. but how do you trust men? >> it's about someone who has their own thing going on.

and i know my boyfriend now loves me for me. >> cy wise, right? you've been with him a couple of years? >> over a year now. >> is this true love? >> i have never been happier. he just makes me feel so safe. he's so loyal. he's my best friend. he's an incredible man. i feel lucky. >> think we may be seeing some real wedding bells? >> we'll see what happens. right now we're so happy how we are. and we'll see what the future holds. >> could you imagine being in a 35 and not married? >> you know, i would love to have a family and children in the next couple of years, definitely. i'm just -- right now i'm so busy with traveling that i wouldn't have time for a family right now. >> do you think he's the one? >> i do. i couldn't imagine myself with anyone else. >> kathy, what do you think? you've seen them all come and go. >> i think he is such a special, sweet, loving person. he really is. >> tell me about the projects you've both got on the go now.

this is your chance for an utterly shameless plug now. you've earned your ticket on this interview. >> i am working right now on a ready to wear clothing line, cocktail dresses and kind of occasion wear, party dresses. but not breaking the bank. >> affordable beauty. >> affordable beauty, really lovely, beautiful dresses and all different age ranges. >> paris? what 37,000 things are you up to? ? all my products, my brand, and next up i'm going to be getting into development. and opening my own hotels and beach clubs. >> seriously? >> mm-hmm. where? >> around the world. i can't say where yet because it's a surprise, but within the next few months i'll be announcing -- >> you're kind of becoming the female donald trump. is that the game plan? [ laughter ] >> i think donald is a friend,

you know? i look up to him as a business mann. i think he's done incredibly well for himself. >> his daughter ivanka must be about your age, isn't she? she's impressive, too. >> lovely. the whole family. >> well listen, i wish you all the best of luck with it. it's been a fascinating hour. probably not the hour that people will be expecting when they tuned in at the start of this. but i think you've shown a different side to both of you, to the hilton family. >> yes. >> yes. thank you, piers. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com iles an hour. that's one serious machine. but you can do this. any socket can. the volt only needs about a buck fifty worth of charge a day, and for longer trips, it can use gas. so get psyched. this is a big step up from the leafblower. chevrolet volt. the 2011 north american car of the year. setting that goal to become a principal.

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