about an hour. a reminder for example all the latest political news go to our website, c nchnnpolitics.ccnnpo. you don't have to leave. suzanne malveaux has no another two hours. >> you don't have to leave. live from studio 7, i'm suzanne malveaux, want to get you up to speed for this friday, september 30th. he was considered one of the biggest terror threats to u.s. homeland security, a muslim cleric born in the united states who became the face of al qaeda in yemen. we are learning more details about the killing of anwar al lackey. a government source in yemen says he was killed today when an air strike hit his motorcade. al awlaki had ties to the so-called underwear bomber accused of trying to bring down that u.s. plane and to the accused fort hood gunman. we are going to hear from president obama any minute now about the killing of that terrorist, al awlaki. we will bring you the president's remarks live. he is attending a ceremony marking the change of office for

the chairman of the joint chief of staff. admiral mike mullen is retiring from that job, being replaced by general martin dempsey. a paramedic who says that michael jackson flat lined at home is set to testify that is happening today, at the trial of jackson's doctor. now, court reconvenes in about 45 minutes or so dr. conrad murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter jackson's death. yesterday a security guard testified that murray asked him to help gather up drug vials before even asking him to call 911. >> i was standing at the foot of the bed p he reached over and grabbeded a handful of vials and then he reached out to me and said, here, put these in a bag. and engineers are back at work today rappelling down the sides of the washington monument, they are looking for any damage the earthquake caused last moment. the work has been delayed by

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card. well this news just in about new rules allowing military chaplins to perform same-sex marriag marriages. chaplins can now perform weddings for same sex couple bus only if allowed by state law and if permitted by the chaplin's religious beliefs. the marching orders come just ten days after end of don't ask don't tell policy that kept gays and lez beyaps from serving openly in the military. us officials say one of al qaeda's top recruiters who once preached at a mosque in virginia and california has been killed in an air strike in yemen. anwar al awlaki was born american, born in new mexico. he moved to yemen when he was 7 years old. he returned in 1991 and attended colleges in the united states, getting degrees at colorado state university, san diego state, george washington university. now the 40-year-old was nope as the bin laden of the internet for his use of youtube to recruit wannabe terrorists.

in fact, last year, youtube removed several clips of al lack can i for trying to incite violence. u.s. officials say that he helped recruit the alleged underwear bomber, abdulmutallab, charged with trying to blow up a u.s. flight to detroit on christmas day. they say he also exchanged e-mails with accused fort hood shooter, major nidal hasan. he had ties as well to three of the september 11th hijackers. joining me from istanbul is cnn's mohammed jamjoon. we know you are trying to find out exactly how he was killed. what is the likely scenario? >> reporter: well, suzanne, more details emerging from yemeni government officials. just a few minutes ago, i spoke with an official who told me, in fact, yemeni intelligence had located the hideout, a house in yemen where anwar awlaki was found and that it was a

yemeni/u.s. joint intelligence-gathering and had sharing operation that led to an air strike, an air strike earlier today on a convoy that anw anwar awlaki was part of and that led to his death. we are also hear there is a second american step, samir kahn, very much known among the ranks of al qaeda in yemen, a co-editor of an english language e-magazine called "inspired" uses to try to recruit new jihad kids to come to yemen. they pub be british it in english. so what we are hearing from yemeni government officials, a big blow to the propaganda machine, apparatus of al qaeda and arabian peninsula. >> and mohammed, yemen's president just returned. he has been very vocal about how the united states needs him to go after these figures in al qaeda. do we think that this strike was meant a to show that he is serious about going after al qaeda and that he should stay in

power? >> well, suzanne, we know that the u.s. and yemeni officials have been trying for a while to capture and/or kill anwar al awlaki. how long this was timed, how long this was in the make, we just don't know at this point, but clearly this is something used used by president saleh, used by the eu, the u.n., the u.s., the ecc are to say i told you, i'm eat only person that can fight al qaeda effectively, i come back, two days later we kill al awlaki. he will use that as a way to main at this point h maintain had his grip on power. >> we are waiting for president obama to make a statement. he is going to be talking about the change of guard, full, for the chair of the joint chiefs of staff. he is also going to be

addressing this very important killing of this al qaeda member, this american who was captured and killed earlier today who was a very significant member of that terrorist organization. billionaire warren buffett just wrapping the opening bell on wall street. he has got the president's ear, but he is also talking to cnn. our alison kosik, he's got your ear as well. a one-on-one with buffett on the trading floor. hey, allison. i know off very important guest with you. let's get started. >> had how aboutving a hard tim you, but hearing what warren buffett has to say. today is the 50th anniversary of business wire with, a subsidiary of berkshire hat away. kathy barren tamrez, you run business wire. what is it like working under this guy as a boss? >> one word, it's fantastic. he bought the company, said don't change anything. i'm still doing what i do but i have the -- backing me is the whiz dom of this rock star over

here. >> congratulations to both of you on the 50th anniversary mr. buffett, let's talk taxes a moment, you have been very outspoke been millionaires, the uberrich paying their fair share of tax, but since, you know, since the portion of their taxes really suspect going to make a huge dent in the deficit, are you happy seeing your suggestion this new bufet rule, becoming more of a basis of a political battle that really -- that really has turned into class warfare? >> well, no actually, there has been class war fare the last 20 years and my class has won. we are the ones that got their tax rates reduced dramatically. you look at the 400 highest tax payers in the united states in 1992, the first year for figure, they averaged about 40 million of taxes per person. and the most recent year, they were -- of income per person. the most recent year, they were 227 million per person, five for one. during that period, their taxes went down from 29% to 21% of

income. so, if there's class warfare, the rich class has won. but it's not a tax on all million fires in ten millionaires or anything like that. it is only a tax -- only a minimum tax on people who make lots of money and pay very low tax rates at the same time. anybody who is paying normal tax rates, it wouldn't touch n aggregate there's probably 50,000 people in the whole united states out of 310 million that it would affect. >> but it is really not going to make much of a difference then, in a deficit, .3 of 1% it would affect the population in this country. so why do this? >> well, it probably would come in about 20 billion a year, but no one thing is going to soft deficit of over a trillion. i think when you are going to ask the poor and middle class to give up things in terms of medicare or whatever it may be as part of shared sacrifice, the idea that you don't get 20 million from this group for whom it is only ten points on very low tax rate to start with i

think is -- is -- is simply unfair. and i think that getting people to buy in in this country to the kind of shared sacrifice that's going to be needed, it's going to be very important that they feel there's fairness to that -- what's going on overall. >> all right. let talk bank of america. back in the headlines today, announcing a $5 fee on debit card holders who use their debit cards to make purchases. you're a big stake holder in bank of america. this is upsetting a lot of bank of america customers, especially after bank of america got as 40 billion bailout. you know what do you of this outrage? what do you think of being of america doing this? >> well, i think they paid back the 40 billion at a very good profit to the united states government for doing it the bank of america will be charging fees of one sort or another and they are -- there are 7,000 banks in the united states. and if somebody else offers a better deal, people can go to that it is just like you can change channels on television are. okay. okay. obviously, the economy, we are in a real rough patch for the

economy. you have a direct pipeline to president obama these days. what would you tell him? what -- what would you tell him to fix this economy? what's it going to take to turn this economy around? >> going to take a lot to fix it and take the cooperation of congress and the administration. and the difficult thing so far, i mean, you know, the problems over raising the debt limit were a disgrace and people need to feel confidence in their leaders and they have not been given much reason to feel confidence in terms of how congress generally has behaved in recent moments, so i think it's very important that leaders of both sides come together, make some concessions on both sides, do what is needed for the country, which certainly -- certainly taxes on the ultrarich who are paying a tiny rate is certainly called for, but that's small part of the whole thing there's a lot of things that needed to be done on the spending side and they are going to affect a lot of americans. and it's going to take some political courage on both sides of the aisle to get those things

done. i hope that happens. >> all right, thanks very much for your time, you too, kathy. i will throw it back to you, suzanne. >> alison, if you can still hear me, we don't get a chance to talk to warn buffett often. >> i can. >> what does he think of the impact of europe and greece on the american economy here? how much does he think that will be a problem in terms of their own financial crisis? >> i'm sorry, one more time, i did have a problem hearing you. >> if could you ask mr. buffett about the impact of europe, their economic crisis with greece, how is that directly impacting our own economic situation? >> all right. she wants to talk about europe, about the debt vation situation in europe, its debt problems, about how it is affecting and bringing our economy down. your thoughts on whole thing? >> it has not brought our economy down. i mean, people here are worried about what is going on in europe. business is still improving, not a very rapid rate in the united states. but we have 70-plus businesses and i see the figures every day on what is going on.

and our recovery is still under way but at a very small incline and -- and -- europe has a lot of problems to work through. but i don't worry about that in terms of where we will be in three years or five years or ten years or even where europe will be. the juices of capitalism work. and people are out every day trying to figure out how to turn out better products, do things more efficiently and that goes on every day and going on right today. >> but we are interconnected? >> we are interconnected, but those problem are centered over there. it's nothing, nothing like the fall of 2008, in terms of the united states. >> okay to there you go suzanne. i hope that answers your question. >> l thank you very much to warren buffett and also alison, great job on that interview. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. we are awaiting and we will bring it to you live as soon as it happens, the president to make a statement. this is a changing of the guard, if you will, for the chair of the joint chiefs of staff, but he will also address the significance of the capture and

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go to bengay.com for a 5-dollar coupon. paramedics who responded to michael jackson's death are expected to take the stand today in do dr. conrad murray's trial it is the fourth day of testimony it begins in los angeles this hour. our cnn's ted rolands, covering the trial for us there ted what do we expect to hear from the paramedics today? >> reporter: there are two wee quay witnesses, suzanne, and they will testify when they arrived they can believe michael jackson was flat lining, he had no pulse and they say they asked dr. murray how long has this been going on and they claim

that murray said just happened, right now. they say that they both thought that was a little suspicious but the most damning thing, if you will, against murray that they will testify to, as we watch janet jackson and brother, randy, now coming into the courthouse, the rest of the jackson family is already in the courthouse. janet jackson has been here every day of this trial and as you see on this friday, she is arriving as well. but the most damning piece of evidence that these paramedics are going to provide for the prosecution is that they asked dr. murray what did you give him? what did you give michael jackson, and he never mentions propofol. that will be where the prosecution con accept traits their direct examination on these two key witnesses. suzanne? >> ted, we just noticed youment pointed to out janet jackson there janet and randy entering the court house. have we seen any emotion from them, all of this has started to unfold? >> reporter: oh absolutely. any time something comes up that comes -- that talk about the

specific death of michael jackson, you can feel the emotion in the courtroom and specifically with the family and then the children. yesterday, we heard dramatic testimony from the first staff person to see michael jackson unresponsive and he testified that paris jackson, michael jackson's little girl, came into the room and was screaming "daddy. daddy." when that testimony happened, the photos of these kids come up, every time, the family noticeably react, as you would expect. >> all right, ted, thank you very much. we will be taking portions of that live as that starts to unfold within the hour. so thank you, ted. well this year marks the fifth anniversary of cnn heroes honoring every day folks who are changing the world. coming up, we are going to introduce to you one of the top cnn heroes of 2011. she is a chicago grandmother who invited gang members into her home.

we are waiting for president obama to be speak outing of fort myer, virginia, he is at a ceremony, the change of the guard at the joint chiefs of staff but also making some comment about the significance of the killing of one of al

qaeda's top leaders, an american muslim cleric who was based out of yemen, known for using the internet and recruiting those around the world to that terrorist cause. well, all year, we have been introducing to you every day folks who are changing the world. we call them cnn heroes. i would like you to meet one of this year's top ten cnn heroes, diane latiker. she lives in a high-crime neighborhood where kids are at risk, joining gangs, getting drugs that type of thing, approximately well, she open herd home to her kids and then she opened kids off the block it is a program that has helped more than 1500 young people since 2003. diane latiker, she joins us from chicago. first of all, congratulations to you for the work that you've already done. you are already a cnn hero. we appreciate the work that you've done, the hard work and the sacrifice that you've made. tell us a little bit about how things have changed for you, if at all, since becoming a cnn top

ten hero. >> wow. things have changed so dram mat delicious has been really hectic, because we realized that now, it's open and it's out there about what's happening with our young people and we are very happy and very proud and very thankful to cnn for giving us that exposure. and people have -- we have been contacted from all over the world regarding this issue and how to help and it is really some good people out there who really want to do some things to help us now with our young people and i'm very excited about it. >> what are your plans for kids off the block? what do you hope that your organization can accomplish? >> we want to -- we want to go to other areas. this is not just happening in roseland this had is happening all over our country and we want to move into other areas and help young people and let them know that we believe in them and that we want to help them and let them know that there's hope, there's adults that care about them and we want to spread that

message across this nation. and we are going to get a lot of people that's going to help us do that >> we certainly hope that that is a message that many, many people are embrace. the $250,000 prize, what would that mean for you and your organization and the children you serve? >> wow. wow. we are in office space that we rent. if we got the $250,000, we would be able to buy that whole building, be able to help thousands of young people, not only in our community, but in the city of chicago. we would be able to do so much more, able to offer healthy food, able to give books and just be able to do an array of things to help young people who don't have access to the things that we normally, you know, kids have access to it would be huge for us, just be huge. >> ms. latiker, you have already made a difference to so many young children and folks in your community, we applaud you for

that wish you the very best and congratulations again already for being one of the top ten. you can go to cnn. -- >> wow. thank you. >> you can go to cnnheroes.com, right now online or your mobile device to vote for the cnn hero that inspires utmost. all ten will be honored live at cnn heroes, an all-star tribute hosted by anderson cooper on sunday, december 11th. well, first it was bin laden, now the bin laden of the internet has been killed. so who's left in al qaeda and how much of a threat are they to the united states? that's up next. [ male announcer ] it's a fact:

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where there is a change of the guard for the chair of the joint chiefs of staff. we expect they'll be making remarks, however, on the significance of to the killing of the terrorist, american muslim cleric out of yemen who was killed earlier today. so we will bring those remarks as soon as they happen live. u.s. officials say they no longer have to worry about the top recruiter for al qaeda, that he has been kill in an air strike in yemen. anwar al awlaki was an american. he was born in new mexico. he moved to yemen when he was 7 years old. he returned in 1991, attended colleges in the united states, getting degrees at colorado state university, san diego state, george washington university. the 40-year-old was known as the bin laden of the internet for his use of youtube to recruit wannabe terrorists. well, last year, youtube removed several clips of al awlaki for trying to incite violence. cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson takes a closer look at the

terrorist. ♪ >> islamabad was an opening. >> reporter: anwar al awlaki. >> rain was mercy. >> reporter: the radical yemen-based preacher, seen here online. his followers and aggression say he is like osama bin laden. >> he remind mess of, for example, osama bin laden and also amman al zawahiri, the knowledge they have, the foundations they have. >> said hand me over your scrolls. >> reporter: this is the same anwar al awlaki who exchanged he emails about major nadal hasan, accused of killing 13 people at fort hood. after the killings, al awlaki praised hasan on his website, calling him a hero. why alack ski so influential is a combination of birth and upbringing. he was born in the united

states. his father was a minister in the yemeni government. he is smart and privileged. he preached in a mosque in virginia. he doesn't agree with al awlaki's extreme views and denouncing the killings at fort hood, but it was here at the mosque that al awlaki met major hasan as well as two of the 9/11 bombers. the 9/11 commission reports that even before this, he was on the fbi's radar. according to the commission, by the time we sought to interview him in 2003, he had left the united states. nic robertson, cnn, london. >> so how badly does the death of al awlaki hurt al qaeda's terrorist network? here's a look at al qaeda's top leaders before the u.s. and its partners were able to actually take them down. osama bin laden, dead. atiyah al rahman, dead. the u.s. hasn't been able to

tack down amman alza war had i. recruiter, al awlaki, dead and adam gadhan, still alive. joining me now is cnn national security contributor fran townsend, member of the national external advisory committees. fran, tell us a little bit about this guy, first of all, awlaki. where why was he so powerful? >> awlaki, he was so powerful because he was an american-born al qaeda member, he spoke fluid english, idio mattic english, co-speak in slang, he could appeal to the passions of westerners for recruitment which, of course is a huge tremendously valuable tool for al qaeda. he was also very powerful in terms of the recruiting the lone wolf. remember, nadal hasan, the fort hood shooter who shot and killed his fellow soldiers, there is the christmas day attempted underwear bomber, there was the cargo plane, the cart ridges in the computers, all of which he

was linked to but this is not -- he is not new to the al qaeda scene. he goes back, as we have been reporting, to the 9/11 hijackers, two of which with he was imam to in san diego, a third which visited san diego and met with ham and so he then comes east, he is at the mosque in northern virginia where he continues to be a spiritual guide to these -- so he has got a long history with al qaeda, especially to the united states. >> and fran, you were in the bush white house when al awlaki came to the attention of the united states as a dangerous american terrorists looking for arms and weapons. you met with yes, ma'am answers president sal lay and other bush administration officials to try to convince him to arrest this guy and turn him over. why didn't that work at the time? >> with well, al awlaki was a dual american/yemeni citizen. when we talked to president saleh about turning over al alack kirk he was a teacher of

english at a university in sanaa, we believe he was using those classes as radicalization and recruitment -- as a recruitment tool and president saleh made perfectly clear he would never turn al awlaki over, even if he believed he had valid charges, because he couldn't under the yemen's constitution turn over a yes, ma'am menny citizen and not willing to bring him into custody for us to interrogate him. he had connections to powerful tribes in yemen that president saleh was not following cross. >> we knowed up thatter president obama two years ago, he signed a presidential order to capture or al awlaki. now, after 9/11, congress had signed that authorization for use of force, which allowed that to happen. did president bush ever consider also having his sights on killing awlaki? >> i can't really talk to you, suzanne, about things -- classified discussions that happened during the bush administration. i will tell you though, john brennan, my successor in the obama white house, has made perfectly clear that no one should be able to use their

citizenship as a shield when they have clearly aligned themselves with our enemies and declared war on the united states. and so, i think that -- i think that analysis is absolutely right. >> so, wouldn't get into discussing whether or not the bush administration under president bushes will had a similar order, capture or kill? >> won't discuss it. but i think it's fair to say if such an order hex cysted, there wouldn't be a need for another one. >> how significant is this a blow to al qaeda recruitment? we know that he actually used the internet and we also -- do we suspect a backlash against americans knew this guy has been taken out? >> i don't really think that there will be a backlash. after all, we were worried about this in the wake of the bin laden raid and we haven't really seen that we saw some protests in pakistan but there haven't really been retaliatory attacks. so al lack ski a good deal lesser than bin laden so i'm not really worried about sort of retribution. >> all right, fran town send, thank you very much, we appreciate your help and your

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paramedics who responded to the 91 call in conrad murray's trial are expected to take the stand today. here is cnn's randi kaye. >> reporter: as michael jackson lay dying in his bedroom this man told the jury, conrad murray was busy directing him to pack up the drub drugs in the room and put him away. jackson's direct over long gistics, alberto alvarez testified that while they waited for paramedics to arrive, murray was on cleanup patrol. >> i was standing it at the foot of the bed. he reached over and grabbed a handle of vials and then he reached out to me and he said, "here, put these in a bag."

>> and when you removed the sal lean bag from the iv stand, was this attached? >> yes, sir. like i said, it was at my eye level and i was able to notice that at the bottom of the bag, there was what appeared to me, like a milky white suck stance, sir r rap milky white substance. remember, michael jackson liked to call propofol his milk, the powerful anesthetic murray gave jackson through an iv to help him sleep. not only was murray looking to cheap up the drugs are, but he was looking for someone to help save his star patient. alvarez told the jury, murray asked him to help revive jackson who lay lifeless on the bed. >> now, as you came in and saw conrad murray giving compressions, or what you described as compressions, was he using one hand or two happened? >> he was using one hand, sir. he had his happened with his palm open and he was giving chest comp regs breasts in this manner. >> reporter: the prosecution

hoped the jury would realize that dr. murray was doing cpr wrong, using one-handed chest compressions on jackson's soft bed instead of the firm floor and there's more. >> he was giving mouth to mouth, sir. >> and what, if anything, did dr. murray say as he was giving mouth to mouth to mr. jackson? >> i recall that after a couple or a few breaths, that he breathed into mr. jackson, he came up and he says this is the first time i do mouth to mouth, but i have to, he's my friend. >> reporter: in all the hysteria, alvarez noticed jackson's two old children watching in horror. >> they were right behind me. and paris screamed out, "daddy." dr. conrad murray said, "don't let them -- don't let them see their dad like this." >> reporter: in between helping with cpr and clearing out the drugs in the room, alvarez says murray asked him to call 911.

on cross-examination, defense attorney ed chernoff tried to cast doubt on alvarez's timeline, hoping to show dr. murray did have his priorities in order. >> isn't it actually likely that when you talk about things being put away, it was after the paramedics came and before you went to the hospital? >> no, sir. >> reporter: alvarez told the jury jackson did not appear to be alive, even as they struggled to save him. he also said he noticed something peculiar on his body. >> i recall seeing what appeared to be a plastic bag or some sort of -- you know, medical device like that. and it was on his penis. >> reporter: what he saw is called a condom catheter, something that would allow michael jackson to sleep for long periods and not have the to get up to use the bathroom. this pokes hole notice defense theory that jackson got up when dr. murray left the room, downed eight lorazepam pills, and then

returned and gave himself the fatal dose of propofol, not realizing the mix would kill him. randi kaye, cnn, los angeles. want to go to president obama who is making statements this is out of fort myer, virginia. this is a ceremony marking the change of the guard of the joint chiefs of staff. let's take a listen. >> the death of awlaki is a major blow to al qaeda's most active operational affiliate. al awlaki was the leader of external operations for al qaeda in the aribian peninsula n that role, he took the lead in planning and directing efforts to murder n americans. he directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on christmas day in 2009. he directed the failed attempt to blow up u.s. cargo planes in 2010. and he repeatedly called on individuals in the united states and around the globe to kill inspect men, women and children

to vans a murderous agenda. the death of awlaki marks another significant milestone in the broader effort defeat al qaeda and its affiliates. furthermore, the success is a tribute to our intelligence community and to the efforts of yemen and of security forces who have worked closely with the united states over the course of several years. awlaki and his organization have been directly responsible for the deaths of many yemeni citizens. his hateful ideology and target of innocent civilians has been rejected by the vast majority of muslims i and people of all faiths and he has met his demize mize because the government and the people of yemen have joined the international community in a common effort against al qaeda. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula remains a dangerous, a weakened terrorist organization. going forward, we will remain vigilant against any threats to

the united states or our allies and partners. but make no mistake, this is further proof that al qaeda and its affiliates will find no safe haven anywhere in the world. working with yemen and our other allies and partners, we will be determined, we will be deliberate, we will be relentless, we will be resolute in our commitment to destroy terrorist networks that aim to kill americans. and to build a world in which people everywhere can live in greater peace, prosperity and security. now, advancing that security has been the life's work of the man that we honor today, but as mike will admit to you, he got off to a somewhat shaky start. he was a young ensign, just 23 years old, commanding a small tanker, when he collided with a

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new numbers out here showing that these folks are not feeling very good about this. that's right. i mean, you don't need poll numbers to tell you how bad it is out there, how, you know, americans are feeling that the weight of the economic problems. but the new cnn or c poll showing that it is pretty extensive when asked about the current economic conditions. 90% say that the economic conditions are poor. only 10% they say are good. when you compare that to the most recent months back in july, it was down to 84%. still high but much better than 90%. and then you go back another month to june. it was at 81%. so what's showing here is that despite the efforts of this administration to push for job creation, to push for various initiatives that will turn this economy around, americans, when asked, in this poll, still feel that the situation is getting worse, not better, suzanne.

>> dan, we're always hearing from president obama saying that he inherited this big economic mess. is that a message that's resonating with most folks? >> well, it is. i mean, there's a bit of good news in here for the obama administration and for democrats when it comes to the finger pointing from voters, the majority believing that this is a problem of the former administration. 52% believe that the bush administration and republicans are to blame for the economic problems. only 32% believe that president obama and democrats are responsible. and then when you break it down along party lines in terms of the bush administration being responsible, more than the obama administration, democrats, 83% of democrats believe that's the case. 51% of independents and only 17% of republicans, suzanne. >> all right. i guess that's good news for the president going into the campaign mode there. thank you, dan. for the latest political news you know where to go, cnnpolitics.com. coming up, monitoring the michael jackson manslaughter

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top of the hour. i'm suzanne malveaux. going to get you up to speed. he was considered one of the top terrorists in the world. one of the biggest threats to u.s. homeland security. we are learning more now, details at the killing of anwar al awlaki. a government source in yemen says he was killed today when an air strike hit his convoy. awlaki had ties to the so h called underwear bomber and the accused ft. hood gunman. just a short time ago president obama talked about the killing of this terrorist leader. >> earlier this morning anwar al awlaki, a leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, was killed in yemen. the death -- [ applause ]

the death of awlaki is a major blow to al qaeda's most active operational affiliate. awlaki was the leader of external operations for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. in that role he took the lead in planning and directing efforts to murder innocent americans. >> court reconvened just a few minutes ago in the involuntary murder trial of michael jackson's doctor, conrad murray. today the jurors hear from paramedics who responded to the delayed t 911 call at jackson's house. one of the paramedics testified at a preliminary hear that no pulse was detected. and their monitor showed jackson had already flat lined. in italy the proougs wrapped up closing statements today in the amanda knox appeal. the prosecutor said the evidence showed knox and her ex-boyfriend killed knox's former roommate meredith kercher. the lawyers argued that police made mistakes during the

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takes a special person to be able to do this. u.s. officials say one of al qaeda's top terrorist recruiters in the world who which once preached at a mosque in virginia, in california, has been killed in an air strike in yemen. anwar al awlaki was born an american right in new mexico. he moved to yemen when he was 7 years old. he returned in 1991. he attended colleges in the united states, getting degrees at colorado state university, george washington university. the 40-year-old was known as bin laden of the internet. for his use of youtube for recruiting wannabe terrorists. in fact, just last year, youtube removed several clips of awlaki because he was trying to insight violence. awlaki helped recruit the alleged underwear bomber charge with trying to blow up a u.s. flight to detroit on christmas day. they say he also exchanged e-mails with accused ft. hood

shooter, major nidal hassan. and he ties to three of the september 11th hijackers. joining me now is cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson to talk about this, the significance of this. i know you're trying to find out exactly how he was killed. what is the likely scenario here? >> well, we know from yemeni officials that the attack was launched in about mid morning yemen time. he was in a convoy targeted in an air strike. we don't know whoofs spo was responsible for the air strike. there was a close intelligence cooperation between yemen and the united states. we know that u.s. drone unmanned aircraft targeted awlaki in may of this year with a missile that just missed his convoy. bounced off the fender of his vehicle and killed the others in the convoy. what we see at the moment appears to be a similar scenario. it is politically sensitive, however, for yemen to admit that the united states would have been involved directly, pulling

the trigger, if you will, on the attack against awlaki. the country is teetering on the brink of civil war. this would count against president saleh who is still just managing to hold on to power and run the country. right now it does appear that there is a strong possibility at least the united states did have a direct role in this. but all we know for sure, it was an air strike on his convoy. >> with that play into the line of yemen's president saleh that he is a critical part of fighting al qaeda in his country, that the united states needs him at the helm despite the fact of what you said that his country is on the brink of civil war? >> absolutely. i mean, he has just returned to the country in the last few days, from three months convalescing at a medical facility in saudi arabia. the country is descending into a mini-part civil war. al qaeda has gained strength, has taken control according to

the vice president of three provinces in the country. there's a tribal in the north, there's a popular unrising among students, intellectuals and others in the capital. they are part of the army, political leaders. president saleh choose on a number of fronts but the united states is absolutely as the europeans are concerned about these provinces that al qaeda has taken control of. the best thing that president saleh can do is to show how he can cooperate with the united states and get results. and this is a result and this no doubt for him will be very happy with this right now. suzanne? >> all right. nic robertson, thank you very much. here's what's ahead on the run down. it is day four in the man sluther trial of michael jackson's personal doctor, conrad murray. paramedics, they are scheduled to testify. we're going to take you live to los angeles for that. and bank of america plans to start charging you a mondayly fee for using your debit card. then, people who want to invest

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expert of all things middle east from johns hopkins school of advance in international studies and also, coincidence, that anwar al awlaki, do we think is that a ro incidence that he's killed now or do you think it's a part of this campaign that we're talking about, the president's campaign to get support from the united states and other allies to try to stay in power? >> well, just permit me one small corrections. i was at johns hopkins for many years but now at the hoover institution. i wouldn't want my employers to be correct. >> you have a long resume. we appreciate that. >> thank you. i think what you said, the question you put to nic robertson is the fundamental question. why all of a sudden he returns to saudi arabia and now all of a sudden we find awlaki. saleh plays us fools. actually g f. you go back,

suzanne, to the wikileaks documents, they tell you without any equivocation, he says if you americans want to use drones and kill people of al qaeda, go ahead, we will pretend it's us who are doing it. so it's saleh and thank god for the favor he's done that but we must also understand the kind of customer we're dealing with here. >> let's talk about that. you've got the arab spring, the dictators who the united states supported egypt, and egypt, libya. they're all gone. they were big fighters against al qaeda. now that they're gone, has the u.s. actually lost perhaps its greatest allies in going after al qaeda? >> well, that's a subject we can have really a very long discussion on because these dictators were both our allies and they're also our enemies in many ways. and the gift of these dictators, if you will, was really 9/11. because at the same time that they put down rebellion in their own country and killed jihadists in their own country, they

channeled the furies on their own society and on american soil. it was always this kind of strange game with the dictators. they neutkneneuter rain. we didn't. they knew the players. we didn't. they used our money, they used our drones. but we never could be sure of the double game they were playing with us. >> do we suppose -- we know that under president bush the united states government was trying to work with yemen's president to get salef to deliver him to the united states. he ordered a capture or kill directive. how was it that awlaki was able to thrive for so long in yemen without being caught, captured, or killed? >> well, i think that's really -- that's why i thought the question you put to nic robertson was the essence of it. because we know that anwar al awlaki wt weent back to yemen i 2007. lo and behold in 2011 right as he is fighting the fight of his life he turns over awlaki for us

and we can find awlaki and we can kill him. there's no doubt, i would be more daring, if you will, than nic is a reporter, i'm an analyst and i can push the story a bit further. i think obviously the americans did it, cia did it, our drones did it. i think he always had awlaki. he always knew where he was and it was now convenient for him to turn him over. >> does it put us in a stronger or weaker position when it comes to our own security? >> i think we remain in the same territory. our case for our vigilance remains. i think what's interesting at yemen and al qaeda and the arabian peninsula, when you think, suzanne, of all the money and all the effort we have in afghanistan where you just spent some time there, when -- and you compare it to yemen, yemen conceivably is much more dangerous than afghanistan. yemen is really basically afghanistan with a coastline. and yemen is close to the oil

fields of saudi arabia. we remain to this exposure of terror remains as dangerous as ever. >> do we think -- i want to follow up with that line of thinking. do we think that's possible that if al qaeda used yemen as a launching pad to disrupt the oil flow coming from saudi arabia, because i think they provided anywhere to 60% to swents% of the world's oil flow in. could they actually carry out something like that? could they impact the world economy and the world supply if they become stronger in yemen? >> well, you know, no one really knows yemen more than the saudis. they share a border with them. they pay off their tribes. they really know the game in yemen very, very well. and one thing you can trust the saudis with is the security of their own pipelines and the security of their oil. saudi arabia is a big, rich country. the security system is pervasive. they keep an eye out on yemen and the turmoil from yemen. so i think the saudis can take care of their own affairs on the saudi-yemen border. >> all right.

ajami, thank you, professor, for joining us. i want to go for breaking news to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr who has the latest information on who we believe was responsible for the killing of this terrorist awlaki. barbara, what do you know? >> well, suzanne, u.s. government source telling our producer lisa jensen that it was a missile fired from a u.s. drone that killed anwar al awlaki and three others traveling with him in this convy in yemen. as you know, the u.s. cia, as well as the u.s. military, operate these remote unpiloted aircraft that carry missiles. they have used them extensively. the cia in pakistan. they've been used in somalia. they've been used in yemen. whether it was the cia operating the drone or the u.s. military, firing that missile off that drone, we don't know. but there are a couple of hints out there, suzanne. just a little while ago the president of the united states

publicly paid tribute to the u.s. intelligence community. that means the cia, for its work on this operation, and earlier today a yemeni official said that this all involved cooperation between the u.s. intelligence community and the yemeni government. so now confirmation that it is a missile off a u.s. piloted unmanned drone that killed awlaki and three others. suzanne? >> barbara, explain to us the significance here. because we also heard president obama not only praising u.s. intelligence but he also praised yemeni officials, as well. what is the importance of the united states and yemen working together here to -- for this particular strike in getting this terrorist? >> well, look, you know, yemen has been a safe haven, if you will, for al qaeda in that country now for some time. maybe two years ago that then general paetraeus, now cia

director, was pointing them for a major safe haven for al qaeda and now al qaeda in that country was becoming a serious -- very serious threat. in fact, of course, as we have talked about all day now, it is al qaeda in yemen that's been able to stage attacks, reach out and touch inside the united states, with the underwear bomber situation, as well as other inspired attacks. so that's the importance of al qaeda in yemen. but at the same time, the government of yemen has been under fire for its attacks on its own civilian. president saleh just recently returning to yemen after an assassination attempt. so you have a real situation here where the government that's in control that could do something about al qaeda perhaps very fragile, already under fire. so if the two countries have been able to cooperate on this, the u.s. certainly wants to show this as cooperation with a very, shall we say, sensitive ally. and the yemeni government wants

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warren buffett. the top al qaeda recruiter killed today in yemen was born here, right in the united states in new mexico, as a matter of fact. the u.s. even had anwar al awlaki on a catch or kill order. but his father tried to get a judge to ban the u.s. government from trying to kill him. his father lost that case. joining us now is cnn international security correspondent, paula notten, who interviewed awlaki's father just a few months ago. paula, did his father believe that his son, first of all, was a terrorist? >> well, i should say that i interviewed him several months ago now. in early 2010, i have kept up repo rapport with him. his father was a defender of his son. he certainly did admit that he was not happy with his son's radical preaching of late in the last few months and the fact that he had gone into hiding in yemen. what he did not believe, though, is that he would actually

promote the killing of innocence and the killing of innocent americans. but when you tried to just suppose that with with what u.s. officials were telling you every day, suzanne, it became obvious that perhaps his father was in a little bit of denial. that's not hard to understand. suzanne, this is a man who showed me bic churs of his son at disney world. seemed to be from what his father said, a happy go lucky kind of guy. his siblings are american citizens. he devoured everything of american culture. he was proud of his american birth and his american roots. his father believes that what went wrong is sometime after 9/11 he decided the way the war on terror was being fought that he had to do something to defend his muslim faith. his father believes that's where everything went wrong. >> paula, do we have any reaction today from the news that his son has been killed? >> i have called. i have e-mailed. no reaction yet. suzanne, he always told me this was his worst nightmare, he would be killed in this way.

he wanted his son to at least be caught, in prison, put on trial. he even suggested to me that he thought at some point his son could be of use to u.s. counter terrorism officials in terms of giving him information this me said he was not in regular contact with his son. i have to believe him, but at the same time, he believed his son had protection of clan and relatives in yemen. it turned out not to be enough. the u.s. did finally catch up with him. i know this is what kept dr. nana nasser up at night. >> all right. paula newton, thank you. excellent reporting. awlaki was a u.s. citizen so what did the legal implications of a catch or kill order, even for an american, even if he's a terrorist. we want to talk of cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey tuoobin i just a few minutes. attorneys are expected to spend much of the day questioning two paramedics who responded to the 19 9 -- 911

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in an l.a. the fourth day of testimony in dr. con rald murray's trial is under way right now. attorneys are expected to spend much of the day grilling the paramedics who responded to the 911 call the day that michael jackson died. cnn's ted rowlands is covering the trial for us. ted, what do we expect to hear from these paramedics? why are they important today? >> reporter: well, they're critically important because they will testify to this jury that -- they'll testify two major things. one was when they arrived and when the entire time they were with michael jackson, both of them will testify that they never felt a pulse on jackson. and one of them will testify that he asked jackson how long has he been flat lined, without a pulse, murray, and murray responded, oh, it just happened.

and that paramedic said, you know, that didn't seem to add up to me. this is what he said in the preliminary hearing, because jackson felt cold and was starting to turn blue. the other thing and most critical thing is they asked merry, what did you give michael jackson, what does he have in his system, and murray never mentions propofol. two very key witnesses coming up later today. right now we're hearing from one of murray's former patients in las vegas. he is testifying that he had a procedure done and while he was talking to murray, murray was excited about leaving his practice and going to work for just one person. he didn't tell him it was michael jackson but he said he was leaving to be a personal doctor. he also says when he had a procedure done there was an anesthesiologist there. it wasn't murray that was putting him under. >> all right. ted, thank you very much if first analysis, i want to go to holly hughes with us now. criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. holly, first of all, tell us, how important is it to have

these two paramedics who are coming out and testifying about how long jackson was dead? >> this goes directly to the heart of the state's case because what they're saying is, dr. con rald mrad murray was so negligent, he should be held responsible. when these paramedics take the stand and they say this patient was deceased. they're also going to testify dr. murray didn't want them to declare him deceased on the scene. the reason what's legally significant is if, in fact, they had said he's flatlined, dead on the scene, that scene would have been skeel sealed off right the there, they would have had a medical examiner come to the scene. nobody would have been able to get in there. he wouldn't have been able to collect the vials and start tampering with that time scene. it would have been a done deal. we also would have had

photographs of poor michael in that bed deceased. and so what dr. murray is saying, no, no, no, you have to take him away, try to resuscitate him. the other thing is he's also not admit that he administered propofol to this man. if you think you just administered an acceptable amount, why are you lying about it? why are you hiding it? so, again, this goes to consciousness of guilt. this goes to, if he's not declared dead here, they take the body away. that gives me time to clean up what i want to clean up. we heard the testimony yesterday that the iv bag was taken away. the vials were packed up. >> what about ted had mentioned there was another patient who was testifying, conrad murray. what is that relevant that you have other patients talk about this particular case? >> it's interesting because what it does is it shows dr. murray's state of mind. it tells you where the defendant's head was. and he was so excited about, you know, he's going to only have to work for one person and obviously it's a big famous person. if you're going to make enough money that you can quit your

other practices. so what they're trying to say is he was so eager to please and so eager to keep this job with michael jackson, although he didn't name him to the patient, that he would have done anything that michael jackson asked. he was prove that even if mig yell did ask him. please give him more drugs, more propofol. as a doctor, with a proper stand dar dard of care, you should have said, no, that's not in your best interest. but they're showing that dr. murray is kind of like the kid who hit the jackpot, the prize in the cracker jack box. >> in watching the testimony this week, what stands out in your mind? do you think that they're making their case? >> i do think they're making their case. they're doing a couple of things. they're fulfilling the elements of the crime. remember, the prosecution has the burden of proof. they're going to have to prove certain things. they charged him on voluntary manslaughter. they're going to have to prove that there a deceased person. that sad photograph of michael,

they have to prove it, show it to the jury. so they're going through their elements. they're laying them out. they're not attacking dr. murray as if he's an evil, horrible person. with this particular patient on this particular day, he did not exercise the standard of care because his mind was elsewhere. i think they're doing a great job and they're also doing a fantastic job of keeping michael alive in that courtroom. because we have to remember, this was somebody's daddy, suzanne. take away all the other stuff. when you hear the testimony about his children, paris is on the floor in a ball crying, and prince -- paris screams it, daddy? what they're doing for this jury is they are painting the picture, this was a live, vibrant human being. strip away his celebrity. he was daddy to three children who he absolutely adored. they're bringing home for the jury, this isn't a celebrity trial, guys. this is a trial about a man who died way too young because

somebody else was so negligent that he deserves to be held criminally responsible. >> holly, thanks for bringing it home for us. have a good weekend. >> you, too. billionaire warren buffett has president obama's ear. now he's talking to us. our conversation with buffett from wall street. but first, money advice from cnn's help desk. >> time now for the help desk where we get answers to your financial questions. joining me is the president of consumer education at smartcredit.com. and a personal finance expert. okay. let's start with brentwood, california. she says she's got a loan modification last year. now the bank wants her to accept another modification on the second loan. her credit score has gone up in the past year. she doesn't want to do anything to cause it to go down. what should she the? >> if she is current on her palts and enters into a loan mod program they will not report her delinquent to the agencies.

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the killing of anwar awlaki raises questions about the targeting of u.s. citizens. the american civil liberties union issued a statement today condemning the killing. it said, quote, the government's authority to use lethal force against its own citizens should be limited to circumstances in which the threat to life is concrete, specific, and imminent. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. we've been talking about this throughout the day. there's been a law in the books since the 1970s which bans the u.s. government from assassin e assassinating individualing. clearly awlaki was a bad guy but how does the united states legally ju legally justify killing him? >> i think in fact that ban on assassinations has been gone and it's been gone for a long time. the legal justification for this act is the congressional

authorization for the response to 9/11. passed right after 9/11. it's the legal justification for the iraq war, the afghan war. it basically says we are entitled to defend ourselves militarily against al qaeda. and that has been interpreted by both the bush administration and the obama administration as justification to attack the individuals who are leading the war against us, osama bin laden, and now awlaki most prominently. >> so two years ago president obama issued a presidential order to capture or kill awlaki. essentially putting him on the u.s. hit list, if you will. is that a part of the authorization you talk about, congress' authorization for use of force, or is this something that a president can do,er shoe an order for anyone who is deemed dangerous to the united states? >> that's a good question. the obama administration says it is authorized by congress.

i suspect that the administration would argue they could do it in any case, given the seriousness of the threat. but, you know, one of the very important things to point out about this whole legal controversy is that it's never been in court. no judge has ever evaluated it. and because of the weird legal setting, it's not clear that a court ever will. i mean, when you think about osama bin laden, awlaki, they don't really have the opportunity to go to an american courtroom. >> do they, jeff, do they have any kind of legal recourse, his relatives, could his heirs potentially sue the u.s. government for damages? would they have a case? >> you know, awlaki's father actually went to court to get him off the hit list. and the judge in washington threw the case out saying the father didn't have standing. the hit list wasn't directed at the father. so i think that's a hard question. i cannot conceive of how any of these people could ever really

getting a cess to an american courtroom. so i think this is an interesting theoretical, interesting political debate about the legality. but will a court ever judge thumbs up, thumbs down on this policy? frankly, i doubt it. >> and just to be clear on the first point, jeff, you talked about the fact that, you know, there was a law that was in place that banned the u.s. from going ahead and assassinating individuals. you say congress by authorizing the use of force that allowed us to go to war in afghanistan and subsequently iraq, that is a way of getting around that law or does it basically make that law null and void? >> no, the law is still on the books. if the president wanted to assassinate someone in some country where we have no hostilities involving an issue that has nothing to do with al qaeda, i think clearly it would still be illegal. what the administration has

argued is that because of the congressional authorization, because we are in effect in a state of war with al qaeda, these targeted assassinations are legal. >> all right. jeffrey toobin, thank you so much. appreciate it. warren buffett, he's made billions of dollars off mhis investments. when he speak, a lot of people listen. he recently raised eyebrows when he said rich people should be paying more taxes. buff buffett was at the new york stock exchange this morning where he rang the opening bell and spoke one-on-one with our own alison kosik. you pressed him a bit on this issue about taxing the wealthiest americans. why that would make any difference when it comes to the debt. how did he respond to you? >> okay. when i talked to him, suzanne, he clear fid what he meant. he said it's only a small portion of the population that he's talking about. you know this, lately buffett's been getting flack from fellow

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