date up. randi, illegal immigration is a big issue in this battle. what better state than arizona than to have a primary and a debate in. randi? >> any debate is exciting. paul, thank you. that's great news. appreciate it. that will do it for me today. cnn "newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. hi, brooke. >> randi, good to see you. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin this with. the osama bin laden of the internet, if you will. american-born, al qaeda affiliated savvy, plugged in, using youtube and a website to encourage and recruit the disaffected hell-bent jihad and today we're told that anwar awlaki's life in a missile shot by a cia drone in washington, some of the highest profile acts of terror, including the ft. hood shootings that killed 13

people and the attempt to set off the bomb in times square and the bid to blow off a passenger jet with a bomb sewn into a man's underwear. to be clear here, al awlaki was a very big get. he was the only american on an official u.s. hit list and his killing has touched off this firestone today among critics. they contend that this killing breaks u.s. and international laws. today the president made it very clear that no terrorist is safe. >> make into mistake, this is further proof that al qaeda and its affiliates will find no safe haven anywhere in the world. working with yemen and our other allies and partners, we will be determined, deliberate, and relentless and resolute in our attempt to aim americans. and to build a world in which

people everywhere can live in greater peace, prosperity, and security. >> i want to bring in my guest, michael shoyer, cia osama bin laden unit. mike, you were the author -- let me get this title here" why the west is losing the war on terrorism" in a matter of five months, you have bin laden killed. are we still losing? >> no, we are still losing, ma'am. awalk key is very important, a technical and english speaking countries in america, canada, britain and straj teej jik victory. in 1996 when lybin laden declar

war on us. support for the saudis, israel, and their presence and the afghan and iraq wars, not what our presidents tell us about hating women in the workplace and elections and liberties. and so it's important to kill these people. i have no doubt about that. and the silly argument that it's illegal is just fascinating. >> i want to ask you about that in just a second. but on the minds of the americans is, how are we sure they got him? will we ever know definitively? >> well, usually al qaeda, if they lose the senior leader, they never try to hide it. and if they don't make a formal announcement and issue a eulogy, generally the man not alive but several people since bin laden was killed in may and they

haven't issued a eulogy, the government and we're pretty confident that they are dead. >> awlaki raised in new mexico, attended in college in the u.s. and it's the internet, you started on this point, it was the internet where he was able to communicate english-speaking muslims. my question is, does al qaeda have anyone else? sort of waking in the wings. >> this american who converted to awlaki and one thing that we've learned is that in so in

all likelihood, they are not going to be as talented as the two men killed today but there will be fighting a super power so they always have somebody to step in. >> this is precedence. this is the first time that the u.s. has killed an american and his post 9/11 on terror. as you alluded to, there is a lot of criticism that violates u.s. and international law. where do you stand on that, mike? >> well, you know, i think historically speaking it's short sided. from 9/11 forward, the united states killed almost 300,000 citizens during the civil war because they had decided to abandon the united states and declare a war on their own

country. similarly, awlaki and should not protect that kind of war making against their own country. i don't think does. i think it's kind of an aclu shift valerie, really. >> mike, i know you've spent some time on the ground in yemen: we've talked a lot about the al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. what more can you share about it and the foot soldiers. >> it's one of those cases where we are culturely different than they are. they will be grieving for awlaki

because he the hands of the enemies of god, from their perspective. and the one thing that has gotten blurred today, is gadahn and awlaki were somewhat separate from -- >> how do you mean? >> well, they were involved in propaganda activities, directed at the english speaking countries, especially japan and britain. and who used to be osama bin laden's personal secretary and he's the one that really generates the enemy of perusians, where it's the toner that you talked about or some of the other operations. the military threat posed by al qaeda and europe in the peninsula really comes from that part of the organization. >> so if it comes primarily from

that part of the organization, mike, then how is this really not that big of a blow? we know that awlaki was hell-bent on hurting the u.s. so is this blow not as big of a blow as some may think? >> well, it's very important because he was dedicated towards the english-speaking countries and causing war in our own streets and towns. you can't underestimate how important it was as a short-term technical victory. it was important that we do it. but the idea that it has somehow hurt the military capabilities in al qaeda and europe, that's just wrong. so it's a different between insiders and people who are under the late awlaki. so i think it's important but we really have not damaged their

capabilities. >> mike scheur, thank you for calling in. you can learn about the impact that awlaki's death will have on al qaeda. go to cnn.com/security. i use a credit union. they are not ripping me off. >> get ready, banks are about to start charging you more to spend your own money. so what is a consumer to do? how to avoid those excessive fees. they could, a, give him to me through hospice, or, b, transfer him to mexico and see if he could get the -- his needs meted over there. >> here's a story. immigrant visiting the u.s. during a soccer game, rushed to the hospital, his family cannot pay the hospital bills. so who is? is anyone? [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now.

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>> they could, a, give him to me through hospice or transfer him to mexico and see if he could get his needs met over there. >> reporter: she just wants her husband to get the care he needs. >> they told me, bottom line, money was the problem here. >> reporter: she told me her husband got an employment authorization card and a social security card in the mail on saturday but that was not enough to guarantee his care. but they think that there is more to the story. >> a u.s. citizen were here in a coma and the hospital says, because we have no way to find out how we are going to be reimbursed for this medical bill, we are going to have to remove him from life support, we doubt that is going to happen. but we believe that's because of this person's legal status, that this is taking place.

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so we started talking about this yesterday. i can feel the outrage through my twitter account. banks are raising fees to use your debit card. the swipe fee cap is actually in the durbin amendment. currently banks charge merchants 44 cents every time a card is swiped. as of tomorrow, that fee will drop between 21 and 24 cents per swipe. significantly less. as a result, the banking industry could lose $6.6 billion

a year and you will help make up for that cost in the monthly fees. live in new york, like i said, i can already tell you put together this list, the five ways consumers can meet these new bank fees. i want to help you walk through all of them. one of them you say, know your bank rules because there are caveats to these bank fees. >> yeah. every bank has a fee schedule which lists all the fees. it's real patch work. they might have a certain amount of balance rules and you need to know what the rules are, to consolidate your checking or savings account in one bank so you're not getting hit with those fees. >> okay. next one, this could be easy.

complain. >> well, people are already doing that but you need to complain to your bank. and i think people might be surprised that banks are not all that firm about these fees. we've heard a lot of these banks say that they are testing certain fees. they want to see if they will stick and if they will lose customers over these fees or whether they will slide through. if you noticed fees on your statement, and that's really important, watch your statement all the time and if you notice something on there, call your bank and say, what is this fee? i'd like you to remove this fee. sometimes they will and sometimes they won't. but that gets to another point. shop around for a better bank. banks are not doing these in lock step. some big ones are but smaller ones have never done this kind of thing and they like to emphasize building relationships with their customers, credit unions can be another

alternative. if you feel that you are getting nickelled and dimed, just call around to see if you can get a better deal. >> but if all of the banks are going to start to charge the $5 fee, you have to live with it. live with the loss of privilege. >> one of the reasons that so many people are outraged, this is something that customers should be getting for free and there are some things that we are not going to keep getting for free. the banking industry is going to be less profitable in the future, which means that there's less profitable over here to subsidize the services over here. we will see fewer reward programs, other perks, the threshold is going to go higher for that and people will qualify. to some extent we need to recognize that banking is a service. it's not a birth right. and we do have the money -- the option to take our money out of the banks and put it in the mattress. so figure out what you're willing to pay for and then work

the angles with your banks and the other things. >> we were just talking about that tossing around ideas. >> a lot of people are talking about it. >> you mentioned some of the rewards, rick. one of your points is to resist those ipods. you don't necessarily have to chase the offers elsewhere? >> that's probably a bad idea, as a matter of fact. so banks want new customers and sometimes -- we're all familiar with these deals. free checking for a year or low interest rate on your credit card or something like that or some banks actually give away ipods if you open an account. i think the thing is that's an effort to get you in the door and getting in with the bank you like and consolidating your financial activity at one bank that you like. you will benefit if you can get your accounts at one place. then you will become a favorite customer. that's a customer that will get

better treatment from the banks. >> and you mentioned this, you find a better bank. not every single bank is including these fees. this brings me to my next urgent question. part of this whole dialogue that we had this morning. if you don't want to slash a hole in your mattress and put cash in there, what do you think these fees will ultimately lend to? will we be be using more cash or atm cards? someone was telling -- educating me telling me you can use blank checks when you go to check out you swipe the check. is that where we are going? >> i think consumers are very clever and i think they are going to figure out a lot of different angles. for example, i think you pointed out that bank of america $5 monthly fee does not apply if you only use your debit card to make atm withdrawals. it only applies if you use that debit card to make purchases at a store. obviously what some people are going to do is withdraw cash from a bank of america atm and

use the cash to make purchases. that's a fairly smart and not that complicated way around it. but this is not a one size fits all situation and different banks have different problems and some banks have no problems and i think they will welcome you with open arms if you show up and say, i feel like i'm getting a bad deal from bank of america or chase or wells fargo. would you like me to get a better deal? some banks will say, sure, come on in. >> the banks will say, we have these losses because of the other fees and consumers -- there are craft stee consumers out there and thank you very much. appreciate it. have a good weekend. >> you, too. coming up, he's been called the "youtube jihadist." awlaki, the mastermind behind the ft. hood shootings. how big of a blow is it to the terrorists? let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.

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american voice for al qaeda. u.s.-born and educated, anwar awlaki was the leader until today when a drove struck him dead. the recent plots aimed at the united states, he was very sauf savvy with regard to the internet and pen pals with the nigerian man. awlaki was behind and toner cartridges, awlaki is a very, very big get. dealt a big blow to al qaeda. director for the asia pacific, awlaki's background, he grew up in new mexico, educated in new

mexico, spoke english, knew the coloquilaismss, he understood the western mind set. >> that's a very important point, brooke. because awlaki spent a lot of time in the united states. he is an american citizen. unlike bin laden or the current leader of za raur ree, he could speak in an english accent and could appeal to the muslim living in the west. he is responsible for having inspired a number of lone wolf terrorists. those are independent terrorists who unnecessarily affiliated to al qaeda but motivated by the brand and ideology. that was very much awlaki's contribution. he was part of al qaeda's 2.0. >> you mentioned 2.0. the lone wolf plots and when you

look at them closely, the suspects here, they are young, impressionable, men and women, looking for a leader and guidance as how to. how has this strike deprived them of a dirth of english propaganda leadership or is there always someone waiting in the wings? well, it is a blow but the leadership is still there and the bomb makers are still there and they have the desires, means, and capabilities of preventing mass casualty attacks. but it will hurt them. ut mately they may use this for propaganda purposes. they could try and seek a revenge attack. his words still live on the internet. they will be downloaded by some

individuals and it doesn't have an impact on the united states and also in great britain, too. and it is an important development. it is a blow. and it's a lifetime impact. >> you bring up an excellent point with regard to the podcast, because of the internet, it's all there. awlaki can live on. his messages can live on through these writings. is there any way that they can be shut down? >> there has often been a debate within the intelligence committee as to how to approach the internet, especially when it comes to the fact that the internet itself is a proliferation of information. there are some of those in the u.s. and law enforcement who believe that they have to keep shutting down radical web forums, prevent them from being able to list all of the doctrine

and see what they are communicating and both sides have merit. there is no consensus as to how to deal with the internet. it's difficult to bring one website down and they with find an alternative route. unfortunately, the terrorist and utilize it for propaganda, recruitment, even for plotting and planning attacks. and that remains the challenge. are there other awlaki followers out there that will no doubt try to use the words of awlaki and bin laden to create the terror movement in the future? >> quickly, is there immediately someone on the bench who can

rise to this level? is there a plan b or will that take time? >> that will take time. and awlaki has notoriety and at the same time and took them with notoriety and no doubt there will be others and we have to keep in mind there are others coming along the assembly line. >> i really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> you can see how anwar awlaki's death will affect al qaeda overall. go to cnn.com/security. now, this. >> he was leaned over the

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jurors in the trial of conrad murray are hearing from the paramedics who tried to stave singer's life. today, day four of his trial in los angeles. a former patient took the stand today. robert russell gave mixed reviews about dr. murray. he said he felt abandoned when murray left his practice to work for jackson, but also saying the

doctor's advice saved his life. >> he gave me advice on exercise. on eating. you know, just how to live my life, doing away with pressure and stress. that i felt like i had driving in the business world. i needed that pressure and when i say he saved my life, more so than from the treatment with what he did for me mentally. the advice he gave me saved my life. >> attorneys are expected to spend a good part of this trial grilling these paramedics. one described murray as evasive, saying he didn't tell them about the drugs, when they arrived and spotted murray collecting items from jackson's bedroom. >> when he came to the bedroom, did you see dr. murray? >> yes, i did. >> describe what you see dr. murray doing. >> he has a bag in hand and he's picking up items from the floor.

>> let's go to ted rollins. he's been inside the u courtroom. in terms of the evidence with regard to the prosecution's case, how important is that and what else are you hearing today? >> well, very important. very strong witness. paramedics are always great witnesses because they don't have an agenda. just folks that enter a scene and report what they saw. richard is a first of two and he did two things cht first, he established that as far as he was concerned, jackson was basically dead when he entered the room. went through a number of procedures to get a heart rate. at one point, he called the ucla medical center and explained to doctors what he had here and they were -- that's when murray stepped in, when they ended up taking him to the hospital, but he said there was no sign of life at all for jackson. the other thing, when he

questioned murray, what are his understood lying conditions, murray didn't give him much information. >> what's his underlying condition and then what -- i explained to him -- i see an iv here and medication vials on the night stand. >> in response to your question ing repeatedly regarding medications, did dr. murray provide you with information concerning medications? >> at that point, he said no, he's not taking anything. and then he followed up with i just gave him a little bit of lorazepam to sleep. >> brooke, he never mentioned propofol at all. we expect to hear from another emt later today or monday. >> it's an excellent point.

the jurors realize these paramedics for the most part don't have an agenda when taking the witness stand. ted, thank you. now, this. hr representatives words were we're letting you go due to your weight. >> this man claimed he was fired because he was too fat. can you say lawsuit? but there's more to it than that. if you have a job or want one, maybe have some extra pounds, you will want to stick around to hear this man's story. gene simons has a reality show as do the kardashians. now, the grand kids of nelson mandela, south africa, nelson mandela, are getting their own show as well. those two stories coming up.

quick note about this newscast. if you've missed it, come monday, the show is is going to move up one hour starting monday, so you will still get two hours from me and my team, but just watch from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. set your tivos monday. gene simons has a reality show, the kardashians, now, the grand kids of nelson mandela getting

their own show. >> as a makeup artist trims the fake eyelashes on one of nelson mandela's granddaughters, this is still in the works of a show that will star three granddaughters of the former south african president. >> it's about us being independent women and independent south african women. >> in south africa, they are so well-known. >> as their cameras film us filming them, the hollywood producer investing in the project says networks in south america and africa are interested in the planned show. >> we're definitely not going to dumb down these very smart girls. we're not going to trash them up. >> nelson mandela is now 93. his memory is going and his granddaughter won't say if the nobel peace prize winnerhows about the show. whether they like it or not,

there is going to be criticism. when i tweeted i was here, i got responses such as, is there anything the mandelas are not catching in on? another person just said, very sad. >> i'm fine. i need a huge favor. >> the mandelas say they can deal with the criticism, that they're used to it. mandela is dearly loved in south africa and the public is protective of his image, worried about anybody tarnishing his legacy, even his family. >> of course, we have this name, but the focus is not really on that. it's about our lives and who we are as individuals. >> the show will air says the team in 2012. no more details they say until contracts are sign. why then i ask, the early publicity? >> we felt we needed to be a little preemptive. these are are going to be the african kardashians, or they're just going to cash in on being mandelas.

no, we're doing a different show, a native and fresh show. >> and having around the clock cameras following them won't be a problem it seems. >> we've grown up having cameras around here and there, so i'm not too worried about it. >> do you like the camera? >> i wouldn't say i like the camera. i wouldn't say i don't like the camera. the camera's just there. >> thank you very much. here we go. top of the hour. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com he's been called the air to osama bin laden. the master mind behind the underwear bomber and times square plot is dead. the news is now. a trip to school turns into a daring rescue scene. what happens next when a young boy falls in the school parking lot. >> his leg was pinned in such a way that i knew that we had to lift the car somehow.

>> you have to see how everyone snapped into action. then a grandfather goes missing without a trace. >> my dad would never not call his kids. there's four of us and it's just by the time the fourth day that, the fifth day, the sixth day, we knew something was wrong. >> his family put together their own search party and picked up on his trial. six days, two cars, one -- later. this man claims he was let go from his job because he was too fat. sunny hostin is on the case. let's continue on. thanks for being with me this friday. beginning with one man. he was the future of terrorism. the osama bin laden of the internet. american born

affiliated savvy using podcasts, but today, we are told anwr's life ended in a missile shot from a cia drone. he and his followers staged some high profile acts of terror. the ft. hood shootings, times square, blow up a jet using explosives sewn into a man's underwear. he was a very, very big get. he was the only american on an official u.s. hit list and his killing has touched off a fire storm among critics. they contend this killing breaks u.s., international laws, but the president today was very clear. no terrorist is safe. >> make no mistake, this is further proof that al-qaeda and

its affiliates will find no safe haven anywhere in the world. working with yemen and our other allies and partners, we will be determined, relentless, resolute in our commitment to destroy terrorist networks that aim to kill americans and to wild a world in which people everywhere can live in greater peace, prosperity and security. >> want to bring in mike baker, a former cia covert operations officer, the president of diligence llc. the details today barely eking out. we know it was a drone strike. targeting his vehicle. what more do you know? how did this thing go down? >> well, i mean, this was not the first effort to try to take him out. they're going back to late 2009. there had be a handful of attempted strikes that had not

worked and as recently as may, we were on his tail. he was sort of the face of what people were calling al-qaeda 2.0. he very western demeanor because of being born as a child and going to college here in the u.s. and his english ability, his way of speaking, not necessarily is scholarly. he was not the most studies of the imams out there, but he did have a way of appealing to a variety of disaffected and impressionable youth who i think found his western demeanor and his english very alluring. >> he knew english, certainly was hell bent on targeting the u.s. we know now that this was a joint military operation. u.s. officials say manned american military aircraft were overhead ready to help. u.s. military also helped, but

it was ultimately the cia drone that fired that fatal missile. just curious, just given your knowledge, are there many joint ops like this? >> well, there are. incredibly close cooperation between the cia and military and has been for decades. for a very long time. much has been made of the inability of the various agencies to play well together. that's improved since 9/11, but this cooperation, the work between the military and cia has been there for a very long time. the cia was born from the military. that's not a surprise. again, there's this interesting, you pointed out, this interesting argument. this come r fort being raised about the fact he was a u.s. citizen. >> precedent setting. >> well, it is precedent set ng a way. i think there's an ability to get lost in this argument about

oh, my god, he was a u.s. citizen. face it. he had taken up arms against the u.s. there are significant provisions between the consulate of regulations to be able to pull somebody's citizenship when they do take up arms against the united states. why we didn't do that early days, i don't know. i find that all sort of a lovely theoretical argument. i have no angst over the fact we've taken him out. >> how much work goes into planning something like this? is there some element of luck? he escaped two earlier attempts. i think of osama bin laden being found. a whole months, years, s.e.a.l. team operation. is it that or getting word of he's moving then scramble the drone. >> you raised a really good point. there's always a small element of luck. in any successful operation. and there is also a tremendous amount of work that goes into

something like this. we saw because there's been more information, the years that went into that. well, leading up to something like this, there's a tremendous amount of surveillance, analysis. source work that goes on. prior to the point where you have the confidence then to take this action. so you know, no one should look at this and say we got lucky we spotted him. again, you need a small element of luck. usually for all of this to fall into place, but there's just a tremendous amount of work that goes into this. >> mike baker, thank you very much. appreciate it. now, what's interesting and happening now. beginning with los angeles. we've been watching this trial. day number four now. one of the paramedics who responded to michael jackson's house testified in dr. murray's trial. he describes murray as being evasive, not even telling him what drugs were in jackson's system at the time. he also spotted murray

collecting item frs the singer's bedroom and putting them in a bag. testimony is expected to take up a sizable amount of the trial. new rules about same-sex marriage in the military. the pentagon now allowing military chaplains to perform same-sex marriages, but only if allowed by state law and if it's permitted by the religious beliefs. these orders come just ten days after don't ask don't tell, the policy that kept gays and lesbians from serving openly. the federal government is suing a company for firing one of its employees in texas. here's the man. used to weigh 680 pounds. i want you to listen here to the reason he says he was fired. >> hr representatives words were letting you go due to your weight. >> he has lost half of his body weight since being fired.

what does the company have to say about the case? we're digging a little deeper with sunny hostin. and this amazing story of survival out of california today. here you have this man, 67 years of age, alive at the bottom of this -- six days after his car plunged over the side of this cliff. he was found by his family. they retraced the route they figured he had taken last friday and the family's hard work paid off. last night, his ribs and back were fractured when they found him. also, his shoulder was dislocated, his arm was broken, but somehow, this 67-year-old managed to get out of his car, set up a camp. he survived on bugs, leaves and rainwater. there was another car found next to his. that driver did not survive. and okay. did you see the launch of this rocket? it's nickname, heavenly palace.

it is china's first step toward having its own space station. i want you to listen to this embarrassing moment that played out on japanese television when they showed view r rs what the rocket is going to do in space. listen. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, this is chinese television and that as you know, was "america the beautiful." woops. get ready to be overcome by a serious case of cuteness. i got a case of the awws today. these are baby pandas. all 12 of them. they made their debut at a panda research center in china this week. 16 pandas all lined up for display in this one giant crib.

it raises the population to 108 and this panda center opened 24 years ago with just six endangered pandas. this summer, china began its once in a decade panda census to learn how many pandas it now has. now, this. >> i don't think it was heeling strength at all. just the collective group. total team effort. >> little boy was just going to school when he slipped and got stuck under that car. how police and bystanders rushed to his rescue and if you want a quick marriage and a real easy divorce, go to mexico city. this city is thinking about a way to offer newlyweds to opt out of marriage say within the first two years. you like that? next. ♪

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time to take you "globe trekking." if you have ever had cold feet about taking the whole death do us part vow, listen to what's happening. mexico city lawmakers are mulling over this proposal that would arm newlyweds with an exit strategy. they are thinking about temporary marriage licenses, so i thought who should we talk to about this? this guy, cnn assignment editor, nick. so, this story just fascinates me. it's the whole like till death to its part, maybe two years. >> some call it throw away marriage. some say they hope it will drop the high divorce rate. what do they do, they're proposing this initiative so after two years, you have the

option of whether to opt out. >> let's say you're with your honey and you think, two years have been okay. can you just reup for another two years? is this like an employment contract? >> exactly. we're hearing if this is approved, the contracts would set out marital duties, so there's caveats in place and right now, they're just talking about it and it's only in mexico city. if you remember in recent years, they passed a same-sex marriage, abortion. the congress there the left leaning. the church is also concerned. >> you think of mexico, the whole lifetime commitment. has there been a reaction from the catholic church? >> they're voicing concern. this is the second largest catholic country in the world. a lot of the youth, this is aim

at the 25 to 30-year-old range. a lot of them still identify as catholic. they still go to church every sunday. wear their rosaries, still pray, but it's indicative of the change of mind set of society there. >> as you said, they're hoping this would decrease the divorce rate if you have the option to opt out? >> it's aimed ott lowering the emotional strain of going through a break-up. these lawmakers hope it will help people not get divorced. >> when is the vote expected? >> they're still talking about that right now. it's just an initiative. it's a proposal nowhere on the vote yet, but when we have that, we'll get back to you. >> thank you sochlt. now, this. i don't think it was super human strength at all. the collective group. >> a 6-year-old boy was just headed to school when his grandfather when he tripped and

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let's head to washington. we have paul steinhauser and mark preston. mark, let's begin with you. what do you have? >> we have some breaking news here. if you're interested in what's going to happen in the republican presidential primary, you're going to want to hear this. cnn has just entered with an agreement with the republican party of florida to host a debate in late january. just hours ago, florida decided to hold their primary on january

31st. cnn and the republican party of florida will now present candidates one final time to make their case to the voter of florida well across the nation why they should be president, so late january, a big debate. this follows our announcement yesterday with the arizona republican party who will be hosting a december 1st debate. >> i guess paul, to you, since everything's moving up a month now, who does this help and hurt? >> earlier today, florida jumps to the 31st, so what happens next? four states that are supposed to go first, iowa, new hampshire, nevada, south carolina, they vow to go first and what we'll probably see is them announcing they will move their primaries up even earlier than florida. early to mid-january, so everything's going to be moved up for about a month. what does that mean for the candidates? romney and perry, it may help romney more. he's kind of been running for almost five years. he's got the teams built up in these early states.

perry just jumped in six weeks ago, so if he's got one less month, he may help him less. for the candidates who are candidates yet, christie, palin, giuliani, well, if they're going to jump in, i guess they got to do it now. >> yeah, they do. the big question is will we see the likes of christie and palin and giuliani getting in the race. they're all wild cards at this point, but if you are a betting person, probably not any of them, but who knows. >> what do we call the noncandidate candidates and in terms of the primary filing deadline, isn't it close? >> the states have different filing deadlines and that's actually the reason. not only that, it's building staffs to get into these states and of course, the number one thing is raising money and getting support for your campaign. >> money, money, money. >> the clock is ticking. >> thank you very much. and to a story i've been waiting

for. we're going to tell you about this 6-year-old boy who wound up trapped under a car. >> his leg was pinned in such a way that we had to lift the car somehow. >> how this group of officers, bystanders rushed in to help. we're going to talk to the family member of this little boy who has had a way to say thank you. then a huge planter that looks like a chia, but also like a presidential candidate. you have to see this. coming up. [ boy ] hey, i thought these were electric? uh, it is, yeah, it's a chevy volt. so what are you doing at a gas station? well it still takes gas to go farther. but you're not getting gas. true. not this time. uh, don't have to gas up very often. so you have to go to the bathroom? no.

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unfortunately, we hear a lot about violence in our nation's campuses. one teacher said, not in my classroom. you will see as he breaks up a very serious fight caught on cell phone camera. watch for yourself.

>> you boys are pissing me off! listen! shut up and sit down! i need a change out of you and you. if you don't take that mess over there right now, right now, you going to push through me to get to, you ain't. so take it over there and get out of his face. get out of mine and get over there. take it. you want to squash? you can do that off campus. y'all don't do that in here and whatever makes you believe you could, we can squash this right now. you got something else to say, come back this way. anybody? >> this video right here is most definitely making the rounds on the internet. has tens of thousands of hits on

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as we've been reporting, u.s. officials say they no longer have to worry about a top recruiter for al-qaeda. he moved to yemen when he was 7, but returned to the u.s. in 1991, getting degrees at colorado state university, san diego state and george

washington university and the 40-year-old was known as the bin laden of the internet for his use of youtube to recruit want to be terrorists and last year, youtube actually removed multiple clips of awlaki trying to incite violence. >> it was an opening, his -- was victory. >> anwar al-awlaki. the radical, yemen based preacher seen here online. his followers say he's like osama bin laden. >> he reminds me of for example osama bin laden and also zawahiri. soft spoken and the knowledge they have, the foundations they have. >> he said, hand me over your scrolls. >> this is the same awlaki who

exchanged e-mails with nadal hasan. after the killings, he praised hasan on his website, calling him a hero. why awlaki is so influential is of upbringing. his father was a minister in the yemeni government. he is smart and privileged. he preached in virginia. he doesn't agree with awlaki's extreme views and denounces the killings at ft. hood, but it was here awlaki met major hasan as well as two of the 9/11 bombers. the 9/11 commission reports that even before this, he was on the fbi's radar. according to the commission, by the time we sought to interview him in 2003, he had left the united states. >> up next, "reporter roulette."

what michael jackson's doctor said at the death scene, hurricane gaining strength in the atlantic and the latest on this trial where we could see amanda knox walk through. matthew chance, i want to begin with you in faroudja. today, what happened in court? >> really important day because it was the last chance of all the lawyers, the defense, the prosecution to put over their case to the jury before we hear amanda knox speak on monday. the defense said this has been no evidence really connecting knox to the crime scene. they dismissed the dna evidence used in the earlier conviction even saying the police here in faroudja planted evidence to secure a conviction. the prosecution obviously

rejecting that. they want the jury to uphold the sentence against knox and sollecito saying both are young, killed for nothing and deserve the maximum sentence. fortunately for them in italy, it's like in prison, not the death penalty. >> knox will be pleaded for her life. do you know when she goes free or spends the rest of her life in jail? >> we're thinking later that day. it's not set in stone, but yes, there will be these pleas of innocence. amanda knox will get 15 minutes. she's going to speak in italian. for months she's been preparing what she's going to say. rafael sollecito will be making his plea nor innocence as well. then the jury retires and considers its decision. everybody's hoping that later on monday, there will be a decision by the court and we'll learn

whether knox is going to be set free or spend decades potentially behind bars. >> we will be speaking with you on monday. until then, thank you. we do invite you to watch cnn presents murder aboard, the amanda knox story. it will be on tv tonight, 11:00 eastern right here on cnn. next, day four of dr. murray's trial in the death of michael jackson. paramedics who answered the 911 call are testifying. two of them, ted at the l.a. courthouse. some of this testimony we're hear frg this one man raising powerful red flags. >> yeah, richard has been on the stand for the bulk of the day and will be when they reconvene in the afternoon and what he has basically told the jury, when he first walked into the room, he first of all thought it was a very bizarre scene, so he said, what's this patient's underlying condition to dr. murray. because obviously, there was something going on with this patient. there was an iv tube, he

appeared thin. murray said, nothing, nothing. as they started the cpr process, there was no heart beat, he felt cold and he felt he was dead. he called his doctor at ucla and between the two of them, we heard a recorded conversation, they said, well, let's pronounce him dead. they didn't cht they ended up taking imhim to the hospital. this paramedic asked murray, what have you given him and murray's response had nothing to do with propofol. >> you told us that dr. murray adviced you that mr. jackson was a healthy male, no underlying health condition and that dr. murray had administered lorazepam to him, correct? >> that's correct. >> and he was treating him for exhaustion and dehydration, correct? >> that's correct. >> did dr. murray ever mention to you having administered propofol to michael jackson? >> no, he did not.

>> did conrad murray ever mention the word, propofol, to you during the time that you were at the location or in his presence? >> no, he did not. >> at no time he mentioned propofol, correct? >> no, ma'am. >> double take him. >> he never mentioned the word propofol. >> and brooke, the defense attorney is cross examing right now and has been able to get a little bit of groundwork, believe it or not, with this witness cht the timetable, yesterday, there was testimony that they had brought jackson down to the floor after the 911 call. well, the 911, this paramedic testified that they were still moving jackson down, so there's a little time issue that they could exploit later on and the other thing that he is likely to ask him would be what would you have done if he told you about propofol. the defense would say there's nothing the emt could have done.

>> thank you, ted. finally, alexandria steel tracking hurricane opheila. where and how strong? >> we have a hurricane on our radar. here it is, south of bermuda. it is the fourth of the season, third major. category 3 or higher with winds of at least 110 miles per hour. >> when will ophelia be hitting? will she at all? >> no, it will not affect the u.s. at all, but it will affect bermuda and we have tropical storm watches for bermuda and here's the movement of it. by tomorrow evening, we will feel the effects in bermuda, especially east. that's where this thing's going to move. move directly north. bermuda will see and feel tropical storm force winds, so gusting 50, 60, 70 miles per

hour and then it will continue on a northern track and strike in newfoundland monday morning. >> talk about it next week. thank you very much. now listen to this. >> have really colorful posters, right? sixth grade student council. really important to have colorful posters. >> remember this? the advice from chris christie? did his advice pay off? i'm going to talk to someone. i bet she knows a thing or two about colorful posters. that's coming up. also, it's not often you see a teacher take charge. wait until you see how one teacher handled two kids fighting in class. ♪

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if you were running for student council, you would take campaign advice from your own governor, right? well, what if you did and it didn't pay off? one new jersey sixth grader is maybe experiencing a little of that today. let's go to brianna keilar. we talked baseball yesterday, but today, student council. remind us of the story first. >> okay, here's what happened. poor little zack martini, 11 years old from springfield, new jersey running for student council. he's at an event for his governor, chris christie, the guy so many republicans want to jump into the presidential race and so he asks for advice and

here's what he gets. >> i'm in sixth grade and i'm thinking of running for student council in school, so any tips? >> ask them for their vote. people like to be asked. have really colorful posters. right? sixth grade student council. really important to have colorful posters. >> he put up the posters, brooke. he asked for the votes. and according to zack's father, who told the ticket, it didn't pan out for him. he didn't win. he's going to try again next year, but i will attest for little zack martini, that there is life after failing to secure a student council position. >> just look at you now. you don't need those colorful posters anymore. what is this about a giant rick

perry hat? >> this is down right weird. checking ebay today, there's a six-foot tall flower planter ott rick perry's head. a company commissioned this what looks sort of like a big chia head of rick perry along with his then competitor for the gubernatorial race, bill white, former mayor of houston. they kind of had a contest between the two of them that white ended up winning. although he didn't win the governor's race there, and you know, it kind of reminds me of something else we saw a few years ago. >> let's look. >> chia obama makes the statement, i'm proud to be an american. display it on your desk, in your home, at your school. own a piece of americana. show pride and support with chia

obama. >> i'm so glad we got to hear that. >> it's really funny and this ad is pretty hilarious. the description is the funniest thing. first off, it's pricey, if you look at the price tag. >> how much? >> $4,500. it says rick stated at a tea party debate he would be offended if somebody thought he could be bought for $4,500. >> a cool $4,500. i'm so glad there is political equality in the land of the chia. >> this one's giant. >> i'm a little afraid of it. we had a little fun today. thank you very much. >> have a good weekend. >> you, too. coming up, toothbrushes and whitening strips. that is what these three dental hygienesteres stole. but first, did you know this was banned books week?

the american library association tracks complaints and bans on reading materials and they say since 2010, these are the top five titles that were challenged by society. number five, "the hunger games." four, "crank" and number three, "brave new world." what could the top two most banned books be? after the break.

now to the top two books. these may be we thought would interest you. "the absolutely true diary of a part time indian" and the number one book "and tango makes

three." i know you remember this story, bystanders jumped in and rescued the motorcyclist trapped under the burning car. some onlookers jumped in to help. this is boca raton, florida. a 6-year-old boy is pinned underneath that maroon car. multiple people, multiofficers working together to lift this car just enough to get the boy out of there. immediately hugs someone. here's the officer talking about really just the urgency of the situation. >> his leg was pinned in such a way that i knew we had to lift the car somehow. >> little boy is dominic roberts, he was getting out of his grandfather's car when he tripped and fell. once he was free, he was taken immediately to the hospital.

doctors had to reattach his left ear and be treated for a puntured lung and road rash. police are saying the incident was a freak accident. the driver will not be charged. dominic tells us one of the first responders visited him today and brought him a little spider-man toy. you know i sit here an the commercial breaks get to tweeting with you and a lot of you have been tweeting me asking about those top five tips from rick newman, how to avoid those bank fees. let's show you quickly a refresher course if you missed it. he said you have to know your bank's rules. the second was complain and i know from twitter, some of you are. the next one is accept the loss of some privileges. two more to go. don't chase officers. offers. rewards from other banks and finally, find a better bank.

we're going to put that list and my entire conversation on my blog. there's the url. cnn.com/brooke. now, this. >> hr representatives words were letting you go due to your weight. >> that man claims he was fired from his job because he was overweight. can you say lawsuit here? but there's more to it than that. if you have ever had a job, you want one, have extra pounds or maybe are just trying to lose some, stick around for this man's story. we'll share that with you and you know it's friday and friday means you get to ask me some of your questions and for some reason, one of the questions i got was are you really as nice as you are as you are on tv? here's my answer cht. ben wants to know are you as nice in person as you seem to be or come across on tv? ben, i don't know what you're talking about. i think i'm a really genuine,

nice -- keep it down a little bit. any way. >> here's your copy you asked for. >> no milk. i'm the nicest person possible. on television -- jessica -- >> are you still hot? >> it is a little warm in the news room. thank you.

quick note. we keep passing this along because i need you to move with me when we move on monday. the show moves up one hour

starting monday. so you will still get two hours from us, you just have to watch earlier from 2:00 to 4:00 eastern or 11:00 to 1:00 pacific. set whatever you have to do. i will see you then next monday. now, to this story on the case, a company is being sued by the federal government for firing a worker in texas. i want you to listen to what this man says he was told when he was let go. >> hr representatives exact words were letting you go due to your weight. >> he weighed 680 pounds at the time. now, the equal employment opportunity commission said the company violated disablties laws, so we had a bunch of questions for our favorite legal gal, sunny hostin r, on the case for us on this friday. i guess, first question is, is being obese, is being morbidly obese, considered a disability under this law?

>> well, the eeoc, which is in full, entitled to enforce american with disabilities act says yes. but i will tell you before this year really, before 2011 when the ada had some amendments to it, obesity was not protected so courts never really enforced that. i think it's too soon to tell whether it's a disability, but the eocs position learnsy is that it is a disability. >> are there any circumstances for which an employee could be fired for being too fat? >> you know, the issue is what most people are employees at will, right? they don't have employment contracts. they can be fired for no reason or any reason at all as long as it's not a discriminatory reason. so if being fat isn't a

disability, then sure you can be fired for that reason or any reason. so, bottom line is it's too soon to tell, but the eoc's position is that if you're overweight, then you are disabled and an employer has to make a reasonable accommodation just as the way an employer would have to make an accommodation for someone who can't see or hear. >> it's an eye opener for sure. what about the company? what's their response? >> we got, we did get a statement from bae systems and it says -- >> do we know yet if ronald has found another job or is he still

unemployed? >> my understanding is that he has not found another job and part of this lawsuit is that he is seeking back pay and wants his old job back. >> case number two. we like to keep our teeth nice and white, right, but who knew crest white strips were such a hot commodity. three people were arrested. kind of wanted to see their teeth. is that bad? three people arrested in florida for allegedly stealing $3 million worth of white strips and electric toothbrushes. >> isn't that something? >> that's a lot of money for a lot of products. >> it's interesting. like $56 for the crest white strips. i use them. i get a lot of e-mails from viewers asking me how i clean my teeth. what happens is there are people called boosters, they go to cvs

and walgreens and walmart and steal this stuff, then take it to a pawn store and then they sell it. and then the pawn store pawnshop basically then goes on ebay and sells it again for profit. so, this is a really big issue and $3 billion worth of the stuff was found. >> shouldn't be laughing. is this an unusual case or do people steal crest white strips and this kind of dental hygiene stuff often? >> it isn't an unusual case. i called a couple of my law enforcement folks and they said, no, this happens often and a lot of these retail stores now have loss prevention specialists doing these undercover stings and working with law enforcement authorities trying to crack down on this. so, you know, bottom line is this is really important. i guess, brooke, people really want white teeth. i don't know i do. but it's really