>> no one is going to top that. >> i like thathow. that's "arrested development" coming back for a few more episodes and a movie. if that can happen five years after it was canceled, there has to be a way to keep "the simpsons" on the air. there just has to be. thanks for watching. erin burnett "out front" starts now. >> countdown to amanda knox. then apple pulling a bait and switch today and no one cared? seriously? and the bottom line. will all the fees from banks for credit cards and atm use go away? america's treasury secretary tim geithner is our exclusive guest. we're "out front." u.s. stocks are losing $4 trillion in value since the

highs in spring, 401(k)s crushed and housing prices below their highs. unemployment, sky high. ben bernanke says that america is the best place to prosper in all the world. everywhere i travel overseas, i hear about america being a leader in freedom from young people and business people. i get pleas for america to rise again because they still admire american ingenuity and, yes, even after the financial crisis, they admire american financial power. today the ultimate image of american power, not an fa-18. no. it is this. the iphone 4s. it had its own press conference today to debut. we did the numbers. there are 128 million iphones in the world right now and there isn't a child anywhere i've met

who doesn't want one. in china, actually, i think iphone is a synonym for america. and that's why every night we're counting up. we're going to count how many days since america lost its top credit rating. it has been 60 days and our goal is to get it back because psychologically, it matters. so to get there, we have enlisted a team of 0 of the most important business leaders in america. it is called the strike team. the strike team members joined because they agreed that business needs to step up and influence policy in a constructive way. tech, autos, investors, sports, banks, manufacturing, entrepreneurs. they're going to vote on key economic issues throughout the election season. and tonight i ask them three questions. is another recession inevitable at this point? will president obama's jobs plan create jobs? and if a u.s. investment bank were close to failure, example was morgan stanley, would you support a bailout at this time? the strike team weighed in on tonight's interview.

timothy geithner is here with me on set. secretary geithner, great pleasure to see you. >> thank you, i like your optimism. >> we're trying. we're trying. so let me just say, it smells like deja vu. 400 point swing. that is good for today. we're on the press hiss again. one prominent forecasting group said the recession was inevitable which is why i use that term in the question. i think you're going to be excited about. this the strike team which includes members from cisco and dupont and ford and a lot of other big companies, 17 of them said a recession is not inevitable at this point. we're talking about a double dip. are they right or the people that say it's inevitable are right? >> it depends first on how effective the europeans are in dealing with the financial crisis. because that's putting a severe burden on growth around the world. it's a very serious crisis. it depends on what they do in europe. but also depends on our ability at congress to do something to make growth stronger in the united states. >> there's been a lot of fighting to day on congress about the jobs bill.

republicans may be pushing it knowing it would fail. others saying it won't pass. how much you are willing to give on it as a sign that the bill itself wasn't a political push about it president, but a real effort to get something done? >> let me say, it is very important that congress do things to make the economy stronger now. we're not growing fast enough. we're very vulnerable to what is happening in europe. you're seeing growth slow around the world. unemployment is high in the united states. and overwhelming response we have is to do more now to strengthen the economy. now we put on the table a very smart, very strong, very powerful package. people may have better ideas. we have not seen a plan that would do nearly as much for the economy and be as effective in strengthening the economy that has any chance of passing. >> it's interesting. i want to put this up here of the strike team. an interesting that a lot of the guys have a lot of employees. some entrepreneurs. ten of them thought that president's jobs plan would create jobs and then ten of them said it would not. >> will is no credible argument this will create jobs. of course it will create jobs.

broad cross section of economists -- >> because of the payroll? >> it's not just. that every person that has a job in the united states today gets a substantial tax cut. that's more money in their pockets at a time when most americans are hurting. every business gets a tax cut. they get a bigger tax cut if they hire an additional worker, veteran, someone that is long-term unemployed. there is very smart sensible investments to help rebuild a country, to repair schools, repair roads, repair businesses. those are like tax cuts, too. they reduce the cost of businesses trying to compete in this global economy. without those actions, the economy is weaker. growth is slower more people out of work longer. there is no reason why we should xep that outcome. >> can the bill make up for the european problem? is it a pea relative to the watermelon which is the crisis which is bigger than greece. more and more people i'm hearing are saying europe could be a bigger threat to america than

lehman brothers which ended up triggering the financial crisis. >> as i said at the beginning, what you're facing is very tough, very difficult. it caused a lot of damage around the world and could do a lot more damage. but they effectively decided the key things. they're not going to let the euro break up. they're not going to let the european monetary union fall apart. they're going to stand their financial system. they're going to step toward fiscal union with broader disciplines. they made those decisions. what they haven't done yet is put in place the financial capacity to make that work. that's what they're trying to negotiate right now. >> do you get mad when they pick on you and tell you to get out of their business? when you told them to increase the size of the fund? >> they're going to do -- well, let me be more polite. i think they're going to do what they need to do to get their arms around this. they haven't done it yet.

and you heard them today, that's probably why i see more confidence. you hear them talking about the conference of approach, stronger financial fire wall, support for their financial system. they made that broad thing work. but they have to move more quickly with more force. >> one of the reasons that europe matters to america is our banks. and our banks are third wheel topic this topic in this country. morgue morgan stanley is hit by repeated market concern. now i asked the strike team and our viewers about whether a bank and morgan stanley is a completely hypothetical example, that is the size we are talking about, whether a bank of that size would merit a bailout by the u.s. government. the strike team, ten said yes. systemically important for american economy. nine of them said no. one abstained. i won't tell who you that was. our viewers, obviously, 180 degrees. almost all of them, no, why should the u.s. taxpayers bail them out?

who is bailing out the millions of unemployed. if it comes to it, is a company of morgan stanley size's systemically important enough for a bailout? >> nobody in my position can answer a question like that. that's one thing you learn when you serve in public service. the american financial system is in a much stronger position today than it was six months ago, 12 months ago, 18 months ago before the crisis to handle and deal with and manage the pressures we're seeing from europe and slow growth around the world. we're in a much stronger position because we forced these firms to go out and raise a huge amount of capital very early. we let the weakest parts of american financial system wash out of the system. and we did some very tough things early on. we're in a much stronger place today. we want to make sure that europe fix this is problem. so we're less vulnerable to your challenges and make sure that congress acts to do things within our control to strengthen the economy now and to pass this jobs act to do that. again, the best thing we can do

for the american financial system today is to repair it, reform it, and strengthen the economy. stronger growth is the best path to lower unemployment, more people back to work, better housing market and that's why this jobs act is so important. >> how do you get around the issue where there is such animosity and venom towards the banks? they got bailed out. taxpayers made money on the bailout. it still doesn't matter to a lot of people in this country who just hate them. what do you do about that? >> it's not going to -- that's not going to go away for a very long time. people are going to hold on no that basic of unfairness and anger and frustration until they see a dramatic meaningful improvement in the quality of their lives in the sense that this is a country of possibility still, their future is going to be stronger and that they've seen the government of the united states put in place stronger protections to protect them from the kind of abuses we saw. and that's why these reforms that congress passed about 18 months are so important and

that's why we're fighting to make sure the reforms meet the promise. >> and here's part of the problem. the reforms came through. the banks are upset about them. the banks are fighting back. they're saying you and dodd-frank made life too hard. financial reforms hurting americans and they have to put new fees on customers. i just pulled three of them. city bank charging $15 a month if you have a balance of under $6,000. that is aggressive. bank of america, $5 for the right to use a debit card. and jp morgan chase charging fees for customers. do they do these things to hit the public to get them onboard with them getting rid of your reform? >> the banks are blaming the reforms and the government for everything including lots of problems that they were central to causing. and the people are terribly -- most people are terribly angry and frustrated with that. they want to see things change.

what we're trying to do is make sure that we put in place the protections consumers and invest investors deserve so they're not vulnerable to the mistakes we saw across the american financial system. there is no surprises. there's nothing strange about the fact that banks are resisting it. they're pushing back or trying to weaken the reforms. we're going to push back harder. and in the end, we're going to prevail. because what we're doing is a reasonable sensible thing when is to make sure the american economy is never again vulnerable to this degree of basic abuse, mistakes. and that's why they're so important. now we're trying to be careful to do it in a way that doesn't hurt the recovery. we're trying o do it in a way that makes sure credit is more available, not less available. that the economy will get stronger as we make the system more stable. and that's a difficult balance to strike. >> 60 days since we lost aaa. how many days am i going to have to count? i'm doing it every day. >> you count down every day and

ask congress to pass the kind of reforms we need, not just to make the economy stronger in the short term but restore our long term system. after standard & poors acted, you have seen interest rates fall in the united states. the dollar is broadly stronger. people around the world believe that america in the end will do the right thing. we have to make sure we do it soon enough. >> you're an iphone owner, right? not yet a 4s. >> it's a good example of the fact that we are very innovative, dynamic economy. >> all right. thanks so much. appreciate it. you can see much more about our strike team and our full interview with the treasury secretary on cnn.com/outfront. still out front, christy out, james carville and david from weighing in. and then seriously? cult of apple. and amanda knox waiting for her to come home.

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the number tonight, 17. that is how many times chris christie said no during his press conference announcing he's not running for president. take a listen. >> no matter how many times i was asked the question, for me, the answer was never anything but no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. it's a no until it's a yes. no. no. no. now is not my time. >> that's a no until it's a yes. all right. now the fallout. even before today's announcement, there was significant shift in the republican field. in a new "washington post"/abc news poll released today, herman cain is in second place, tied

with rick perry. wow, up 12%. now with chris christie gone, who is going to win? the one and only james carville is with us joining me now from new orleans. a thrill, sir. and david from coming from our d.c. bureau, former adviser to george w. bush. great to have you with us. it's really fun for me. thanks for coming on our new show. david, we love that stringing together. no. no. no. no. no is no it will it's yes. we got an answer. what does it mean? the recent polls had a pretty good chunk of people looking at chris christie. >> congratulations on the great debut. this race is simplifying. barring the increasing neutrality of a race, we have a race between mitt romney who is more or less the front-runner since the race -- since election day of 2008.

facing an ever narrowing field. herman cain has not been a governor. he hasn't even been a mayor. he is not really held elected office of any kind. he is not going to be the leader of the republican party. the governor of texas who theoretically could be is plunge plunging because of his own various mistakes, weakness that's he's exhibited. who is the field? it is going to be governor romney. and this is a very, very big day for him. >> james, you agree? this is romney only or some other dark horse stalking we don't know? >> you know, first of all i agree with david, congratulations on your new show. i think that if this analogy is a prom date, none of the republicans want to go to the prom with governor romney. but they're going to go to the prom with governor romney and act like they're happy when they get to the prom with governor romney. you know, it's evident if you look at the polling he was at 30 in july and then 25 in august

and still 25 today. there is a great reluctance. i don't see that they have an alternative. i really don't. i think it's not the girl that they want. but let's give this guy credit, he just waits about it phone and he doesn't get his feelings hurt when they call him, he's going to answer it. >> can't be the one you want, then love the one you're with. >> that's right. >> david, let me ask you, is this good for president obama that he's now running against governor romney or not? >> president obama has so much bigger problems than what the republicans throw at him. what is his re-election proposition? what is he going to take to the country? incumbents lose. they don't win or lose because of what their opponents do, they do because of what they themselves have done. his re-election proposition is weak. and governor romney presents the narrowest front. he can't be accused of wanting to shut down social security and medicare. he can't be accused of denying health care coverage to everybody because he has this

health care record which has been a bug in the republican primaries but will be a feature in the general election. he's presidential. he knows what -- he's very smart. he's obviously someone who if the problem is what do we do about this impending euro crisis, can you talk about the euro intelligently and infectively at length in ways that other republican candidates cannot do. >> what can president obama do? david axelrod is coming up and maybe can give him some advice here. >> first of all, if the president is able to win re-election, this will be a really awesome political feat. no president has been re-elected in the kind of environment that he is facing. having said that, he is a skilled guy with a skilled team. and opposition is not really that excited about romney. he'll need -- i think one of the three things are going to happen. another republican getting in the field is going to be a challenge on a democratic side of the third party is going to get in. i don't see this thing coming down to just the president and

romney. i have no idea who. everything that i see that the situation of the republican parties that is at an all time low. it's obvious they don't like romney. the president has any number of challenges. his team is going to to be hard pressed to meet them all. it's going to produce something. i have no idea what. something is coming here, i promise you. >> all right. i hope both of you will be with us to talk about that when it comes. thanks to both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> up front next, president obama's chief campaign official david axelrod will be our guest coming up in a few moments. and the woman on phone with conrad murray when prosecutors say michael jackson stopped breathing. plus, seriously? where is my iphone 5? [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now.

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and now for a story that made us say seriously? for weeks apple customers are waiting for word that the company would finally launch its latest smart phone, the iphone 5. big day for apple fans. so we visited our local apple store to join in the excitement.

>> it was announced today, but i don't know when it's going to be in the market. >> i haven't really looked into it that much. i have an ipod touch. i like it. so i'm assuming i'll like the ipod. >> i own a mac book pro. >> i was waiting for an iphone 5. i'm really thinking about getting it. >> i couldn't get any news so far. i'm still hoping. >> what else have you done? >> you know, just typical sight seeing tours, being on top of the empire state building, walking through times square. >> that's cool. but you're really here for what reason? >> to buy an iphone. >> we are from rome. here we classical project called evol. >> are you going to buy the 5 in. >> i want to see what things we have more. >> different? >> different. >> seriously, apple fans, they

don't care what they hand you. other than the band you saw there at the end, no one seemed that interested in learning what is dirve from the iphone. they just wanted it. we noticed something else weird, the store was actually pretty empty. take a look at this. there's more employees in this store on the upper west side in manhattan than customers. but right across the street, gracious home had, a huge line. so we walked over to ask them about the iphone. >> i need to know what's new. yeah, what's different. it has a lot of functions. i don't know, i love all apple. >> what are you in line for? >> an italian music group. >> do you like them better or the iphone better? >> the iphone. >> seriously, even fans would rather have an iphone five than a signed cd. later on today it turned out there is not an iphone 5.

instead, we get the 4s which we stands for for seriously, april even though apple fans decent care what apple sells them, we do. here's the scoop on the 4s. it's a faster version of the iphone. it has a virtual personal assistant that can you communicate with if you're lonely. and it's available on sprint's wireless network for the first time. so it's not just at&t and verizon. but that's it. that's it. so today though was not a total waste. because we're actually, you know, a new show. you didn't seriously think we would pass up an opportunity to ask a bunch of italians about their leaders lady man did you? >> do you like him? >> you may not be laughing so hard when you hear that italy was downgraded by moodies today because that means the new 4 seriously might cost even more in rome. seriously. all right, still ahead on "out front," michael moore

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we start the second half of our show with stories that we care about and we focus on our own reporting. first stop, america's treasury secretary timothy geithner came out front tonight and he talked about the president's $300 billion jobs plan.

>> is there a line that the administration is willing to draw where you say i will not negotiate beyond. there must be some tax increases? >> i have a line that i use all the time. it's a good basic lesson when you govern, plan beats no plan. the president put a plan on the table. there is no plan that is perfect. but this is a very good mix of tax incentives for individuals. investments don't rebuild the country. we don't have a monopoly of wisdom. we have not seen an alternative plan that could do as much for the economy. >> he did not rule out compromises on tax increases. for the record, the plan is $447 billion, not 300. out front ceo and investor strike team does not hate the jobs plan. they were evenly divided. check our full interview with the treasury secretary at cnn cnn.com/outfront.

general hamm says what keeps him up at night is worry about american training in a extremist camp in somalia coming back to america and attacking. he is worried about missiles disappearing from libya. we made calls. a security expert told us there are a minimum of 20,000 libyan missiles missing, most already taken by truck out of the country. those missiles can take down commercial aircraft. number three, after eight straight days of negotiations, ford and the uaw have a tentative agreement. union workers likely to vote on the deal next week. if they sign on, they'll get a $6,000 bonus, $1,000 more than what gm workers snagged but $1500 less than they wanted. we talked to a union member named lyn. she said she will vote for the deal despite the bonus cut back. for her, the issue is never bonuses. it was health care and she is happy with that part of the deal. number four, the romney campaign scoring a major financial backer today.

the home depot co-founder made the decision when christie said he's not running. how important a donation could this be? he is the 331st richest american on the forbes list. in the world of super pacs, he can give a lot of that away. been 60 days since the u.s. lost the top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? a titanic struggle with the wind in his face. that's how david axelrod describes a struggle for president obama's re-election. and just yesterday the president called himself an underdog in an interview on abc news. >> i'm used to being an underdog. i think at the end of the day what people are going to say is who's got a vision for the future that can actually help ordinary families recapture that american dream? >> so how does the president

turn things around? david axelrod joins us now. really appreciate you being with us, david. so chris christie's out, that help you? >> oh, i don't know. you know, i'm not surprised that he is. having been through this process, the notion that you could gear up and put this thing together on this short time frame that he was talking about seemed remote to me. so i wasn't surprised he didn't run. i'm not sure that it makes a great deal of difference. all of the republicans essentially embrace the same fundamental philosophy they've all endorsed a budget that would cut education by 25% and research and development by 70%. they all oppose closing these tax loopholes. and dealing with our deficits in a balanced way. they share a philosophy. so the basic contours of the debate are going to be the same regardless of who the candidate is on their side. >> so i'm curious, though, just with the two elements we used leading into you.

you talk about the election as a titanic struggle. he talked about himself as an underdog. what is the strategy in being so negative about your own campaign? >> i'm not negative. i'm not negative. if i came on the program and said that i expect a cake walk to the re-election, i'd be wasting your time and you'd never invite me back. you know, we all know what the situation is. the american people and this country, we're all going through a very difficult time. and so that impacts on our politics. we understand that. the question is going to be where do we want to go? where do they want to go? who will stand up and fight for an economy in which everybody has a chance to get ahead, in which everybody gets a fair shake and everybody does their fair share? that's what we're fighting for. they have a very distinctly different view of how we get to that better future. and i'm very confident we're going to win that fight. >> so what about your third

quarter fund-raising numbers? they're supposed to formally come out on the 15th. the target you had was $55 million raised. you are going to hit or beat that? >> i'm not going to discuss fund-raising numbers here. we're doing well. we're raising the money. i have no illusions. i think that when you add in the probably billion dollars that the super pacs collectively could spend against us, you know, there's going to be a lot of money spent against the president. but i believe that we can raise the money necessary to get our message out and beyond that, i believe we're going to marshal a large numbers of americans. we have large numbers of donors, large numbers of volunteers. we're going to march the american people in this fight and win this fight. >> and it is going to be a fight. obviously a lot of pundits are talking about this being a one-term president. most recent numbers from "the washington post" say 46% of americans say they won't vote for the president. if it's all about jobs and you don't have a miracle, a massive job creation which it doesn't look like it's going to happen,

how do you beat mitt romney? >> first of all, erin, i would point out that we've got 53% of the vote last time. 47% of americans voted for someone else. >> fair point. >> so let's put this in perspective. >> yep. >> and you make a good point. you say how are we going to beat mitt romney? if he's the nominee, and there's no guarantee he'll be the nominee, there are two people on that ballot. they'll have records, visions and their own character and qualities that they bring to this race. and people will scrutinize both candidates, not just one candidate. i understand that there is an interest on the part of some to make it simply a referendum. it's going to be a choice. governor romney has his own record. he talks about jobs. his state was 47th in job creation when he was governor of massachusetts. there are a lot of issues. he said he never raised taxes. it turns out that he raised fees in his state by $750 million a year.

you know, as we know, he passed a health care bill that was a lot like the one we passed. now he's trying to walk away from that. so, you know, there will be a lot of issues for us to discuss if he's on the other side of the ballot. >> it sounds like you are ready for them. all right. thanks very much, david axelrod. good to see you, sir. >> thank you. with polls showing a near tie and a head-to-head race between president obama and mitt romney, it is close. who would benefit from independent voters? john avalon is a senior columnist for "the senior beast." you have taken a look at the question, how much could it matter? >> independents are decisive. they're the fastest growing segment of the electorate. mitt romney has an edge. that is a big deal. something the obama administration is very focused on. >> and there's a lot of stakes where you have done the bottom line. you have more independents. >> that's right. one of them is massachusetts. that's why mitt romney was able to be a republican governor of that state. that's the kind of credibility.

independents are closer to republicans on economic issues. democrats on social issues. but very importantly, the least religious cohort. so someone with big evangelical support will have a tough time making that sale to independence. >> john avalon, thanks very much. a protest continued on wall street today. the far left and far right are all riled up. oh, there's the guy. if you didn't see the show yesterday, we went to the wall street protest. after an hour there talking to several protesters, i said what i believe on this show which is the mood was tent city meets woodstock. i had admiration for some of the protesters. i also poked a little good hearted fun of them. many of them dress the as clowns playing drums and dancing to folk music. our story got to noted document airy michael moore who watched the show last night. >> i just don't understand that piece, you know, that new show. these companies, these banks, goldman sachs up here, they took billions and billions of dollars of citizens' money and they

asked us to pay for their crime. and then some of them have paid some of it back with interest. i mean it just boggles the mind. >> so moore was upset, specifically because of this exchange between me and software developer dan who when i asked him why he was there said because taxpayers lost money on the bank bailout called t.a.r.p. >> what do you do for a living? >> i'm a software developer. >> currently employed? unemployed. it is called occupy wall street. >> so do you know that taxpayers made money on the wall street bailout? >> i was unaware of that. >> not on gm. they did on the wall street part of the bailout. does that make you feel any differently? >> i'd have to do more research on it. >> if i were right, it might?

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we're going to do this at the same time every night. our outer circle and tonight to los angeles where three more girlfriends of dr. conrad murray today testified in the michael jackson death trial. four of the girlfriends testified so far. why is their testimony so important? >> reporter: well, because they all talked to dr. conrad murray either just before or just after michael jackson died. one of them received today she was actually on the phone with murray when he realized that jackson was unresponsive. another testified that she was living with murray here in los angeles when he was taking care of jackson and said that she signed for some of those propofol deliveries. tomorrow we hear from the investigators. that will be a big day for prosecutors. >> and now to the amanda knox story. amanda landed in seattle tonight.

for the first time free and in the united states after four years in italian jail. >> first of all, we would like to thank everybody. as ted said, this has been a very long four years. but we couldn't have made it through without all you people out here and those supporting us. and especially amanda. >> all i can say is, again, thank you. because of the letters and the calls and just amazing support that we received from people all over the world especially here in seattle that we've been able to endure and that we've been able to, you know, make sure amanda had the support she needed. there's no way we could thank everybody. so individually, here's our way to just say thank you. >> i'd like to add in one more thing.

we would also like to send our appreciation to our italian lawyers. they did a fantastic job on that side of the pond. and ted was phenomenal on this side of the pond. and obviously, couldn't have done it without you. so appreciate that. >> amanda! welcome home, amanda! >> they're reminding me to speak in english. i'm having problems with that. i'm really overwhelmed right now. i was looking down from the airplane and it seemed like everything wasn't real. what's important for me to say

is just thank you to everyone who's believed in me, who's defended me and supported my family. i just want -- my family is the most important thing to me right now. i just want to go be with them. so thank you for being there for me. >> we want to bring in a spokesperson for friends after amanda knox. good to have you with us. what happens next? i know it's a day you're celebrating. the italian prosecutor says he is going to appeal to the supreme court in italy. what are the implications of this for amanda? >> she would have to be extradited. there has to be some kind of substantial kind of evidence behind the extradition to have her involuntarily taken to italy. i think the chances of that

happening are about zero. it is sure going to cause her more angst and attorneys fees and more interaction with the prosecutor that is following her for years now and prosecuting her. >> ann, if you think about this you look at what drew was just saying. cameras everywhere. the international interest in the story is overwhelming and frankly incredible to see. she could make an incredible amount of money with book deals with, movies, when she decides to re-engage with the world. do you think that is something she'll eventually do? >> yeah, we always called her an innocent bride all the time. in a lot of ways, she is innocent. she is naive. she is almost a throw back hippy with really strong core values. what i see her doing and something that will shock a lot of people and that is she is going to do something really grounded. she's going to do something really meaningful. she's going to do something about justice, probably something about what kind of moral character you have to have to live through these conditions. so it's not going to be a star

struck money making operation that we see in so many of the high profile cases. she's the real deal. i think we're going to see great things from her. >> you spoke to her family. how are they going to spend the next few days? >> they want some privacy. they mean it. they live in west seattle. she wants to just come home and have a barbecue at home with her family, lay in the grass, see her grandma. be back with her family. they're wonderfully nice people. and they're not the kind that will say get off our property. they would like to be. seattle is the kind of town where bill gates and howard shultz, people like that can be amongst us here. it's nice to be important here but more important to be nice. it's a nice place for someone like amanda knox to have a soft landing. so i hope that she doesn't have paparazzi, you know, the term from the italians, at her house. i hope she can have privacy for re-entry and a little bit of peace and quiet. >> ann, thank you very much.

and we'll keep watching. >> it's a big day. >> it is a big day. it is a big day. thanks again. as we await, we want to let you know we have coming up tomorrow on the show, we are going to be talking to super model and activist christy turlington. face familiar, took pretty much everyone and we'll take you inside a women's jail inside pakistan. that is tomorrow. but up next, something -- why this man thinks doing this -- yeah, that, will get him a date. ♪ [ female announcer ] something unexpected to the world of multigrain... taste. ♪ delicious pringles multigrain. with a variety of flavors, multigrain pops with pringles. [ female announcer ] improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula improves skin's health in one day,

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and now tonight's essay. when it comes to get a girlfriend in china, it seems that men have no pride. there are many negatives to china's one child policy in place since 1979. because boys traditionally care for their parents and girls moved away. some families aborted girls. experts say there are 300 million fewer people in china today than there would be due to the one child policy. more boys than girls grow up to be young men without wives and girlfriends. and that's led to increased social unrest and crime. but it's also led to this. >> women. they value so much less than men have succeeded in finally

putting them on top. the dating show one in 100 is the number one dating show in shanghai. it reaches nearly 5 million viewers in china. it gives young women the pick of 100 men. >> there are 60 million single men in china now. and a lot of women are taken. we have a shortage. >> the day we visited this set, there were 20 young women who were looking for a date. now we watched them getting ready from pig tails to tiaras. 22-year-old saya lee who is accomplished with a job in beijing is, well -- that's her -- and she's picky. >> small eyes. and fair. >> small eyes and a beard. see what we mean? she met one young man on the show who she said was cute but didn't seem to be much more.