the united states, and there are some ranches, but the fda currently does not allow for the importation of dary products, so we'll see, and we'll keep looking into those health claims for that and a whole lot of other health foods. we love them. have a great weekend on that note. let's hand it over to "anderson cooper 360." it starts in three, two, one, anderson. erin, thanks very much. tonight, breaking news. a leading conservative power broker calling mitt romney's religion a cult and saying president obama embraces unbiblical provisions. he talks to his congregation of 10,000, voters listened and respond in the voting booths as well. when pastor jeffress spoke today, he made major news and waves in the presidential race.

he joins us momentarily. >> the southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant division in the world has labeled mormonism as a cult. we should always prefer a competent christian to a competent -- to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. that's why i'm enthusiastic to rick perry. >> what do you say to those voters that say his mormonism shouldn't be an issue. he's just as american as anyone else. >> i agree, and article six of the constitution -- >> they say they are christians, they believe in jesus christ. >> a lot of people say they are christians, but they are not. i, again, believe as christians we have the duty to prefer and select christians as our leaders. that's what jon jay, the first chief justice of the supreme

court said, and again, i think when we have a choice as evangelicals between a rick perry and mitt romney, i believe we go with rick perry. >> shortly after, a spokesperson for the church of lader day saints failed to comment. those who want to learn about the centrality of our faith -- joining us now, pastor, thanks very much for being with us. why do you believe the mormon church is a cult? >> well, again, when i talk about a cult, anderson, i'm talking about a theological cult as opposed to a sociological cult. theologically a cult is a religion with a human founder versus a devine founder. and secondly, cults tend to look at other religious text outside the bible for their guidance --

mormonism, for example, certainly accepts the bible, but it accepts the newer, fresher revelation the book of mormon that came from the angel supposedly to joseph smith. for that reason, i'm saying it's a theological cult. i know that's a loaded term, and it has never been considered, anderson, as a part of historic christianity. >> the church of jesus christ of lader day saints considers them christian and says they accept jesus christ as their savior and redeemer and jesus christ is the only way we can return to live with our heavenly father. >> yeah, well -- we could get into an in-depth theological discussion and put everyone to sleep out there. >> i'm fine to putting people to sleep as long as we're educating people. >> well -- this is not a new position. no, i would not consider them a cult, i would consider that

catholicism, the basis of catholicism teaches a person is made right with god by faith in christ and good works, a number of good works, but historic christianity has said we are saved by faith and christ alone. i wouldn't label it a cult but would say its basic tenants are contrary to the teaching of the new testament. >> hindus, buddhists, islam, cults? >> yes, bible says very clearly only those who trust in christ as their savior will be saved in heaven. jesus made that clear when he said i'm the way, the truth, and the life. >> why the difference between rick perry and romney, there are political differences, but why base your decision on the closest, most core-held believes of these two men. they both believe in jesus christ, they both are, you know, believe in their faith, and you,

yourself, say are good people. >> yeah, right. well, anderson, again, this is not the only criteria that we use to select a leader, and i didn't mention the word cult or mitt romney in my introduction of rick perry today. >> you said it in an interview and plenty of times over the years, going back to 2007. >> yes, that's right, and again, i'm not labeling mitt romney as a bad person or mormons as bad people. >> you're saying he's a member of a cult. >> anderson, yes, but anderson, if i were to say to you, you know, anderson, you're not a republican, i don't think you would say -- disagree with that. i would say that not because i think you're a bad person, but you don't hold to the basic tenants of the republican party. >> obviously, you don't know that about me, but saying somebody is a republican is not -- saying they are in a cult is a value judgment. i mean, it's an incendiary term.

>> well, that may be a pejorative term to say cult, but i'm talking in terms of a theological cult, and i believe mormonism fits that definition, but there are many more reasons christian evangelicals should not vote for mitt romney. now, i also said in interviews this afternoon that if it came down to a candidacy between mitt romney and barack obama, i would vote for mitt romney. >> do you believe president obama is not a christian? >> i was getting to that. i think it better to have a non-christian than to have a professing christian like barack obama who embraces unbiblical provisions. i accept barack obama's claim he is a christian. >> doesn't sound like that, saying you accept his claim he's a christian doesn't say you believe that. you don't say about rick perry -- saying you don't have

any reason not to believe it isn't saying you believe it. >> here's the difference, anderson, i've talked to rick -- that's right, i've talked to rick perry, i haven't had the chance to talk to president obama, that's the difference. >> so you don't base his public statements, that's not -- you don't believe that's valid proof enough? >> i have no reason not to doubt his public statements, anderson, none at all. >> okay. what are his -- why do you believe his positions are unbiblical, the president's? >> right, i believe he is the most pro-abortion president in the history of the united states, and i believe in tlife and i believe his so-called conversion to life is very suspect given his position as

governor. romneycare, as you know, included a $50 deductible for abortions, so i think his conviction about life is very suspect, when you contrast that to rick perry who signed into law the texas sonogram bill, he defunded planned parenthood, and i think rick perry has a proven track record. >> do you worry you are actually harming your candidate rick perry? you were introducing him on stage today. you've made the statement in the past, clearly rick perry is now distancing himself from what you said. he clearly knows you believe this because you've said this in the past and he's continued to choose you to introduce him. do you worry you're damaging him at all? >> i think there's a lot of assumptions, there, anderson, he knows my position on mormonism. >> back in 2007, it was in the dallas news and was widely reported, so i assume he knows that. >> he may not have seen that. i wouldn't assume that at all.

>> i assume other people around them -- pastor jeffress thank you for your time. i want to bring in bruce father. it is interesting, what do you make of this? it's nothing really new, i guess. >> the reason we're having this conversation now is mitt romney is back as the frontrunner in this campaign and it was unlikely for this issue not to come to the surface. if you look at the polls, 4 in 10 americans believe mormonism is not true christianity and 25% of americans, and a third of evangelical americans said they'd be less likely to vote for a candidate if he or she was a mormon, so this issue was always going to come back, and this is the day it's brought back to the conversation. >> on a theological basis, is it fair to call something a cult? >> it's interesting, this

definiti definition, a sociological cult and theological cult, one founded by a person as opposed to a devine figure. he included islam, and islam says it was founded by devine revelation to move huhammed, so don't find that particularly new. what's going on here, is if you look in western religion, okay, basically religions have had toward prior religions a sort of yes, but attitude. holiest day of the jewish year, we believe in the bible but the new testament supmented the bible. in the case of mormonism, we believe there is subsequent revelation, and that's the

source of the difference. they also believe that joseph smith got devine revelation himself and resurrected jesus came to america and these are the ideas that sat uncomforta y uncomfortably, with protestant christians. >> i cannot believe rick perry does not know the believes of people introducing him on stage, but as you say, this is a widely-held belief and therefore it's not necessarily going to harm him politically among evangelical voters. >> in a lot of way, none of this is particular new to a lot of -- it's also not new that rick perry has surrounded himself with a lot of people who have what we might call extreme views. if you think of the call, his big event, the big rain to solve the problems of the country and have devine revelation to solve economic problems, one of the

co-sponsors of that event was john haikey, and john mccain in 2008 had to reject the endorsement because of his anti-catholic views and comments about the holocaust being devinely inspired. so in a way this is a familiar refrain that political figures have become responsible, in a way, for the religious views of their religious endorsers, so i think this is the 2008 conversation that's now presenting itself in the 2012 race, so in that regard, i think rick perry, this has always been coming and i think it's going to get worse for rick perry as some of the other views of people around him begin to be made public. >> interesting, thanks for being with us, thanks very much. follow me on twitt twitter @andersoncooper. next, the occupy wall street movement and those condemning it.

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neither side has resorted to violence, both sides are calling for peaceful change within the process. there have been arrested in the occupy wall street protests in new york. keep in mind as common sense says, you can't call one side dangerous and destructive and anti-american for their protest rallies and the other side patriotic when both sides are using pretty much the same tactics, and that's exactly what some politicians are doing. listen to them condemn the wall street rallies. >> if you listen to what they are telling the media, they don't know why they are there, they are just mad. this attack upon business, attack upon industry, attack upon freedom, now the unions seem to be weighing in and trying to subvert that anger into a political power to try to reelect a president whose policies are just totally

ignorant and incompetent. >> i, for one, am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying wall street and the other cities across the country, and believe it or not, some in this town have actually condoned the pitting of americans against americans. >> i don't have facts to back this up, but i happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the obama administration. don't blame wall street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. >> some of the voices speaking out against the rallies. senator orrin hatch also slamming them, they are alarming, we are going to have riots in this country because of what these people are doing. listen to him and others talking about tea party rallies. >> been watching what the tea

party does, i've been very impressed. i think it's time for america to take back america and the tea party is playing a role in that and i appreciate it. >> the tea party movement is expressing the most powerful political force in america. it's written in the constitution of the united states, we the people. we the people expressing their concern about their loss of freedom, the fiscal irresponsibility of this administration and the leadership here in this house. >> first, i'd like to thank you, though, for being here and for fighting on the front lines of what we know is truly a battle for our democracy. >> what do you think about this whole tea party citizens movement? i said it's getting bigger, stronger, and more impactful. >> again, the issues not what each side believes, but politicians on one side rally for democracy and the other a threat to it. amy, thanks very much for being with us. do you think it is fair to make comparisons between, say, the early tea party movement and the

occupy wall street protests? >> you know, it was an organic movement, i don't know if this is organic or not, but the tea party movement was organic and we started by having rallies. you can make that comparison. i think that we're both made as heck about the bailouts of the banks, but other than that, i don't see a lot of comparisons. we're trying to reign in the spending in washington, the answer to what we believe to washington's problems are, less government, smaller government, they want more government, bigger government. so i don't see that there's a lot of comparison. >> i'm not talking about necessarily the believes, because obviously, although besides the bailout issue, the issues are very different, but the groups of people who are -- you know, are angry and are coming together coalescing and early on, it's sort of a hodgepodge of different ideas. >> i have to disagree with you on that, because anderson, when

we came together, there was one theme that brought us all together, and that was the out of control spending in washington. it was all about making washington live within their means. from what i've heard from these people, half of them don't even know why they are there, and then they have this list of demands that's completely unreasonable. >> let me jump in there, because i think the same, you know, i think it's easy to go down to one of these wall street protests, grab out a few people, quiz them, make them look bad, and that was done to a lot of tea party folks. >> it's still done. >> i think unfairly. it's easy to take one person out of a crowd who doesn't know issues and say the tea party doesn't know what they are talking about. and i agree, central issue is reigning in spending, i would argue it seems to me -- i'm no expert on the wall street issue -- but the central issue to them is greed on wall street. and yes, people have a hodgepodge of other issues, but

early tea party rallies, people there for illegal immigration, gun control, less gun control, they are opposed to socialism, so aren't often early on there's a hodgepodge of different issues? >> even today you can go out and you'll find different factions within the movement that are focussed on different things, but overall we're all focussed on reigning in spending. i don't know if i said it, but about the arrests. we came together, we've been peaceful, completely peaceful. last weekend alone in new york city there was 700 arrests. i mean, that is not representative at all about what this tea party movement is about. we are very focussed, we know what we want to do, and maybe they'll figure out what they want to do, but the thing is you can't be mad at wall street. what wall street did was completely legal. wall street, these people are protesting against capitalism, what america was made -- that's

what america is, and they are protesting against capitalism, they want to take capitalism down, but yet they are mad at the banks being bailed out? that's double talk out of both sides of their mouth. it's capitalism that would have allowed the banks to fail, instead, wall street had an ace up their sleeve, reached up to washington and the money was pumped into there, so what do they want? do they want capitalism or socialism? we want capitalism. we want to protect this great country and what it was founded bonn, the constitution, and we want washington to live within their means. >> thanks very much, it was interesting. let's turn now to a key figure supporting the wall street rallies, cornell west, who also co-hosts "smiling west" with travis smiley. thank you very much. we were just talking to a tea party organizer who's asking what do these people on wall street want, it seems they are

against capitalism. is there a central -- from what i've heard, the people i've heard talking, there's a lot of different people with a lot of different opinions. is there a central point, a central belief? >> well, let me first say i'm blessed to be a small part of the occupy wall street movement, 101 cities around the world, over 70 cities in the united states. the major issue is corporate greed, 1% of the population own 40% of the wealth. 100% income growth in the last ten years went to the top 10%, 83% of income growth went to 1%. we're calling for the renewal of democracy, and i'm not a leader, i'm one voice among others, but it's very clear the corporate greed and the industrial complex and military industrial complex and the corporate media complex and on wall street is sucking the democratic energies out of our society. this is not a question of an

"ism," this is a question of individual liberty. we support social justice, we support fighting corporate greed, we must do in order to pass on the tradition of democracy to the younger generation, my brother. >> we just played a montage of a lot of republicans who praised the tea party movement early on, but are calling the occupied wall street protesters mobs, saying it's dangerous when you hear that kind of rhetoric, what do you think? >> well, i mean, i just heard the mayor of new york say this was one of the most peaceful groups he's seen, 700 arrests, this is peaceful arrests, in the tradition of martin luther king jr., civil disobedience is a part of democracy, dissent is the highest form of patriotism. it's been profoundly peaceful, but every movement has a favorite of voices, viewpoints, there was some very ugly things

that the tea party brothers and sisters did, right? they tried to spit on congressman, brother john lewis, a black man, they are elements in the tea party, it's going to be elements in any movement, but keep in mind, occupy wall street is more inclusive. we're opened to prophetic athei atheists, mormons, agnostics, we're concerned about common interest, common good, 42% of poor children living in poverty of all colors, 42% in poverty or near poverty, 22% in poverty. that's a moral disgrace. >> so, professor, how do -- and you're not a leader, but you are an eloquent spokesperson, at this point one of many, how do you translate the central idea of being against greed on wall street, how do you translate that into demands on paper or demands that actually allow a

movement to grow beyond just people on the street camping out to actually effect change? >> well, it's not just people on the street. they are creating a magnificent set of communities of all colors, all genders, all cultures, all sexual orientat n orientations, all religions. it's difficult to translate social movement into one or two demands, but that is a process stage by stage, step by step, but be clear, brothers and sisters of all colors in the various cities occupying wall street symbolically or literally keep in mind corporate greed, wealth inequality, ending the wars, dealing with the prison industrial complex, trying to highlight poor and working people who have been pushed to the margins and that 1% of our population, disproportionately accruing the benefit. >> thank you very much, cornell west.

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couple of days ago we showed you a video that's gone viral on youtube, shows a 29-year-old woman hearing her own voice for the first time after being profoundly deaf her whole life.

take a look. >> it's beeping. technically your device is on. can you tell? it's exciting. here, you can put it down for a second. just get used to the sound. what does it sound like? do you want to grab some tissues? >> i don't want to hear myself cry. >> that wasn't a miracle, it was science. making the impossible possible for sarah. she had the device implanted a couple of months ago, and her husband shot the video. the device turned on for the first time. sarah had never heard their voices, now she can. we were all amazed by the video. we wanted to learn more about this device. i talked to dr. sanjay gupta for tonight's "the connection report." was she able to hear anything at

all before the implant? >> it sounds like she was able to hear some things. she had just profound, what they call sensory neural hearing loss. this is one that a lot of people get as they get older, as they've listened to lots of loud sounds, they have damage to the inner ear. she had it at a very young age. she was using hearing aids at the age of 2. it's amazing video to watch, the profound impact of someone gaining a sense like that. we have an animation of what hearing looks like. this might explain what was happening. your outer ear and middle ear take out distortions, you hit the eardrum there, that's normal. this is normal hearing, then see those bones making that motion against what's known as the cochlea, that's how it works,

transmit the sound through those bones, and the yellow part, that's the nerve, it's sending the signal that you just heard something and deciphering that into real sound. in her case, at some point in there between the bones and snail-like looking thing, she wasn't getting enough vibration, there wasn't enough sound transmitted through so it would come through very muffled, very, very hard to decipher, so she could hear things barely, vibrations and rumblings mostly. >> so what's the difference between this implant and a cochlear implant? >> hearing aids, which a lot of people wear for this hearing loss, think about a microphone in your ear. you're essentially taking sound and using that to amplify and send the signal back further into your ear. the cochlear implant you're sending signals to the brain stem, that's for people with

complete hearing loss because of damage to the nerve. here what you're doing is you're using your normal ear, the outer ear, the middle ear, and the eardrum is sort of acting like a microphone, but what happens is there's a couple of wires -- i think you have a model of it to show. >> i have a model here. >> there's a little sort of a processer you see towards the back that's going to be under the skin, it's not something you'd see from the outside. >> so this is under the skin, this part. >> it's under the skin. she could probably feel it if she put her hand back there, and it's controlled by remote control, so she can turn it up or down, but it's got wires going to where those bones were that were transmitting the sound and it's collecting that vibration, analyzing that data, sending it to the processer, and distributing a more amplified vibration, so you hear sounds more normally. it's not that sort of muffled sound anymore, and you're getting a lot more than the

vibrations she was probably hearing for a long time. >> how much does this cost and does insurance cover it? >> well, no, it does not cover it, and it is expensive. it's about $30,000 as things stand right now, and this is a recently fda-approved thing. they saved up for a long time to be able to purchase this, and i think the company thinks, as with a lot of devices, if more people get it, the cost may come down, but it is a very expensive thing right now. the fda has approved it for this particular use, but even after the operation, it takes some time for someone to heal and then ultimately start using it. >> just amazing. i love watching that video. sanjay, thanks. still ahead, shocking allegations report amanda knox faced sexual harassment inside the prison she was held for four years. we begin in syria where activists say a prominent opposition leader was shot to

death in his home today. more than 3,000 demonstrators have reportedly been killed since the anti-government demonstrations began nearly seven months ago. commanders in libya say they may be only days away from taking control of more of gadhafi's hometown. the leaders told u.s. defense secretary leon panetta they don't believe the ousted leader could command even his loyal militia any longer. three women share this year's nobel peace prize for the non-violent fight for women's rights. and two u.s. air bases are getting the royal treatment. captain harry wales arrived in california today for the final phase of his helicopter gun training. he will also go to a base in arizona, from one britt to another, if he needs someone to

show him around town, he can always call me, anderson? >> i'll keep that in mind. >> i'm sure he'll call. >> you never know. amanda knox back in the states, there's a new report she was sexually harassed in the italian prison she was living. we'll hear about that and how she's adjusting to life back home. also, in the michael jackson's death trial, jurors hear about the day jackson died. you name it. i've tried it. but nothing helped me beat my back pain. then i tried salonpas. it's powerful relief that works at the site of pain and lasts up to 12 hours. salonpas.

crime and punishment tonight, it's been three days since amanda knox returned to her parents' home in seattle, and there's a new report of what she faced inside the italian

prison. according to cbs news, amanda was sexually harassed behind bars and said there was an administrator that would take her to his office alone at night. now she's a free woman. last night her dad told cnn's erin burnett how well amanda is adjusting to life back home. >> really, it's reconnecting with the family, and she has a couple of twin cousins that were one year old when she first went to italy, and now they are 5, so it's neat to see her playing with them and it's like they never missed each other, it's really nice. >> that was amanda knox's dad. earlier i spoke about the challenges amanda knox might face in the days, weeks, even months ahead. i keep thinking about amanda knox, four years in prison in another country, how do you begin to return to your prior

life? >> there may not be a return to her prior life. i suspect there won't be, i hope there won't be. this is a young girl who was extremely naive that has to take some responsibility for what happened to her, though she was acquitted of having killed somebody, she was in some circumstances and doing some things -- that will keep her happy for about 12 minutes, then she has to get on with her life. i predicted yesterday that she would speak as soon as she got off the plane. she seems like that girl to me. she's going to be angry. a lot of anger, a lot of resentment. >> angry at? >> the circumstances -- unless she gets angry with herself she's not going to have completed the healing process. wouldn't you be angry of being falsely accused? >> someone on the program last

night, her life was interrupted for four years. >> truly life interrupted. life will never be the same, maybe for e good of the i think what she's going to do is learn how to make it a part of her li and want to be of service with it. any time i've dealt with people with lots of heavy trauma, that's the direction they go. some people turn inward and want to sit with a therapist and be quiet. i don't think we're going to see that with her. i think we're going to see somebody speak out a bit. the piece i haven't heard her talk about was the role of substances in all this, of course, that's my interest. whenever you find unwanted outcomes in adolescent young adulthood, you find substances, and somewhere in there that's got to be addressed too. >> her family, what's your advice for family members? >> my suspicion is that they have just been longing for their daughter to be back, they are probably going to get a good night's sleep. >> should parents get their child to talk about to them?

i remember elizabeth smart's dad, i used to talk with him and he kept saying we're letting elizabeth do things on her own time. >> it really is, if things are going to heal and heal well, you want professional intervention, yes, parents need to stand back a little bit, but this is the tricky piece, you have to be fully present, you have to put a piece of yourself into that relationship and be present all the time, which from the outside looking in at amanda knox's parents, this is a divorced couple that seem to have come together on her behalf, so we're seeing that evidence of presence where they can be emotional attuned and connected all the time, we'll see. but it's not so much about the talking, it's about the availability and continuous presence of parents. >> her parents' lives have changed, financially, their lives have been nothing but this. >> i'm certain they wouldn't have spent a penny any other way, but amanda will feel guilty about that. i don't know the time line of

when she got divorced, but you wonder if it was part of her speaking refuge from a family ruptured. >> great she's home. >> it's a great story. there's fear they are going to try to extradite her or appeal it, she ain't going nowhere. >> thanks, appreciate it. up next, what dr. conrad murray told police about the day michael jackson died. alka-seltzer plus fightsale an] your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ deep breath] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! i'm a dad, coach... and i quit smoking with chantix. knowing that i could smoke during the first week was really important to me. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke -- and personally that's what i knew i needed. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these,

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you'll watch our special report, "bullying, it stops here." it's a town hall meeting. includes very, very brave kids who are speaking out about alleged pervasive anti-gay harassment. that's what they say. the school district is facing a federal investigation and lawsuit from two advocacy groups and several students who say the district policy about barring teachers from talking about sexuality, they say jeopardizes their safety at school. the district declined to speak to us, but back in april, the superintendent spoke to cnn and defended the policy. >> all the students come with parents in this community, and parents have a wide range of believes. we serve them all. >> the town hall at rutgers, i spoke to four amazing students, who are fighting back. they are part of sunday's special. here's a look at what they had to say. >> how often do you get bullied, get pushed around?

>> almost every day. >> almost every day. >> yes. >> and damion, how about you, you're straight, but your two dads are gay, and you're on a gymnastics team, which people make fun of you for. what do people say to you? >> they would call me gay, faggot, fag boy. >> what do people call you? >> call me dyke, [ bleep ], faggot, even words i'm ashamed to say to this day. >> you've been taken out of the school, you're now being home schooled. did you just not feel safe in school? >> kids made me feel like i was the grossest person in the world and go against walls and say here comes the he/she or here comes the trash and they made me feel gross, and i didn't feel safe at school, so i just left. >> i'm sitting here and stewing with rage, and i just feel so angry and so upset for the four of you and your class

experience, and it seems to me that this is all backwards. instead of taking it up with the kids that are tormenting daily and using abusive language and being abusive to their students, this young man can't even go to school anymore. he shouldn't be the one having to stay home. i just want you to know that people do care about you, i care about you, and i really feel touched for your experience. >> you and your wife are raising a daughter, when you hear these kids, what goes through your mind? >> well, you know, these kids do need to know that they are loved, and it's really, really sad that they don't have an advocate, and i think this neutrality policy is abdicating the adult's responsibility of protecting the kids, it makes me very sad. >> how do you get through the day, kyle? >> i pray every day that i didn't have to go back to school. >> you pray every day you don't have to go back to school?

>> yeah, i'd hide under the seats of the bus. >> under the seats? >> i would, and then i'd go to the nurse three times a day at least. >> just to get some place to go? >> to go home. >> to go home. i understand at one point, how many kids did you know that were bullying you. >> 40. >> 40 kids. >> you could identify 40 kids? >> yeah. >> i want to thank you kids for your courage and strength, you're so impressive and so brave, and i think you have tremendous courage, thank you, i appreciate that. yesterday when i interviewed kyle, i said is there anything else you'd like to do or say, he said i'd like to sing a song. he said that to me today, can i sing, so kyle's going to sing his favorite song. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ so hold your head up and you'll go far ♪ ♪ listen to me when i