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>> got a good sense of humor. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer. join us weekdays in "the situation room" at our new time 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. every saturday and 6:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. at this time every weekend on cnn international. the news continues next on cnn. hello, everyone. i'm don lemon at the cnn headquarters in atlanta. here's what is happening at this hour. we're going to start with two topics that always spark couldn't verse see, especially when they are paired together. politics and religion. at the center, mitt romney. he's got a good chance for winning the nomination for president. an influential dallas pastor has
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us used remarks at this week's value vote every summit to label mormonism as "a cult." >> the southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant denonnation in the world is a cult. i think he's a good moral man but those of us who are good followers of christ should prefer a competent christian to a competent nonchristian like mitt romney. >> well, reverend jeffress leaves a huge baptist church and we should note that he also supports romney's rival, rick perry, for president. bill bennett today joined the debate, linking the minister's comments about romney and mormonism to bigotry and questioning the pastor's political wisdom. >> and i would say to pastor jeffress, you stepped on and
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obscured the words of perry and santorum and cain and bachmann and everyone else who has spoken here. you did rick perry no good, sir, in what you had to say. >> after romney it was perry's turn. he called for a truce in this debate but did address the speaker who would follow him and who has criticized his faith in the past. >> poisonous language does not advance our cause. it's never softened our heart or changed a single mind. the question of faith carry the simple and debate and the task for us is to focus on the beliefs and values that unite us. let no agenda narrow our vision or drive us apart. >> earlier today i had a chance to discuss this whole debate with the man who knows all about this country's long history of debates over politics and religion and freedom as well. as a key player in the civil
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rights movement, the reverend joseph laurie is now celebrating his 90th birthday and i asked him about that pastor's remarks that mormonism is a cult. >> well, i'm not going to vote for mitt romney but it has nothing to do with his religion. i think he's free to pursue religion at whatever level he choses. i believe in equal rights, which includes the right to worship as you choose, to believe what you want to. i think a person who deny mitt romney and anybody else the right to worship as they want to, they reflect on our own religion. >> so was -- >> it teaches me that i have to respect everybody's rights. >> isn't one of the principles, once the freedom wkournt countr was founded, freedom of religion? >> yes. >> and so why is this an issue?
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>> because you have people with ignorance and i don't for run minute condone the condemnation of it. >> before religion became the talk of the summit, presidential straw poll was expected to be the big headline. senator ron paul came out the front-runner. paul got 37% of the vote. herman cain finished second at 23% and rick santorum was third at 16%. by the way, rick perry came in fourth and romney was fifth, both in single digits. occupy wall street is now in its fourth week. mayor bloomberg blasted the protests and said that they are trying to destroy the jobs of those working in the city. susan candiotti is in the square tonight. susan, what about the police? do you see a lot of them and
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what are they doing? well, there were a lot of police when hundreds of protesters were filling twool miles north of the park near wall street. now a lot of pro protesters have fanned out and left this park. there is still a bit of police presence but certainly there being here has caused some difficult feelings between protesters and the police because of incidents that happened over the past couple of weeks ago. a protester said that the police trapped them in the street and wouldn't let them go and then let them go with tickets. that kind of thing. there was another situation
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during that wall street police and they are trying to protect public speech, free speech, as well as public safety. >> many times people who have a certain point of view will only give you a snip pet of the video and you don't know what precipitated it or the and you don't know the culmination of the report. that's what these investigations do. they look at the totality of the circumstances. >> reporter: so, in fact, there is a citizens review panel and protesters are lobbied against the police department alleging that there was abuse involved here and the use of pepper spray, that kind of thing. the board is looking into it. protesters say that certainly
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more has to be done about this and here's what one of them told us. -- and so they are saying, as a matter of fact -- we don't have that sound ready for you but the protesters are saying that the police have not been completely fair in how they have been trying to coral them, they feel, or the use of pepper spray for sometimes the use of a batten. some of that video you have seen. but, again, there is an investigation going on to review that. lawyers are working for them, talk about the possibility of a class action suit. we'll see if that actually happens. but for now, many more protesters are here at a second location which they didn't have in the past. >> yeah, basically saying that the police have been heavy handed. thank you very much, susan candiotti. and it's not just new york city. >> where are the jobs? where are the jobs? >> similar demonstrations have
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been held in places like washington and new orleans, to name just a few. >> we are the 99%! we are the 99%! >> many of the images that we're receiving like this one from c. this n from our i reporters. college towns like austin, texas, chapel hill, california. while the gatherings have attracted a wide range of groups but all seem united in the fact that the country's problems were caused by the financial system that favors the wealthy. and coming up here, we'll speak with unof the occupy wall street organizers to learn more about what message that they are trying to get out. 20 past the hour. a sad day for the national football league and especially oak labd raiders fans. al davis, the owner of raiders, has died at the age of 82. joe carter looks back at his
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amazing six decade career. >> reporter: dressed in black with his air slicked back, al davis was a raiders picture for almost five decades. he arrived in oakland at 1963 when, at the age of 33, he was named head coach and general manager. though he was successful for three seasons on the field, after the commissioner, he became the ceo and general partner of the raiders. his teams were renowned for playing hard and rough. his only request, just win, baby, and the raiders did. taking home 13 division championships and four league titles, including three super bowls. he was inducted in the pro football hall of fame in 1982. as the afl commissioner, the fight didn't end there.
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he sued the nfl twice in the enshoeing years and was the only owner to side with the usfl in their anti-trust suit against the nfl. you can argue that the biggest contribution beyond his team's success occurred at his diverse hiring practices. he hired the first african-american head coach and the first female ceo in league history. in the 1990s, the raiders were an average team but returned to the super bowl until 20036789 oakland lost that game by 27 points, which was the beginning of a freefall. davis hired and fired several coaches and lost in often embarrassing seasons. davis, once thought to be a savvy football mind, began to be viewed as a man out of touch. none of that affected him, though. his legacy leaving an indell labl mark on the team, the league, and the sport.
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a small private funeral for apple founder steve jobs was held on today. jobs family says no public ceremony is planned but a website will allow others to express their thoughts and con dell lenses. next up, a $10 million bounty on the head of al qaeda's leader in iraq. and police in kansas city missouri are frantically looking for a missing 10-month-old baby girl. [ male announcer ] there's just something about werther's caramel
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hopes that $10 million is a big enough bounty to capture the biggest al qaeda leader. abu dua was added to the terrorist group earlier in the week. he's involved in a recent attacks in iraq and an attack that killed 24 people three days after u.s. forces killed osama bin laden. and in libya, the fighting has intensified in moammar gadhafi's home town of sirte. that cannot be soon enough for leaders on the national transitional council. they claim that liberation once gadhafi is under control. if the last decade has caught us anything in afghanistan, it's how difficult it can be to a nation so set in its ways. peyton walsh visits a country
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that is between justice and retribution. we warn you, you're about to see disturbing video. >> reporter: your witness to a public execution. the crime? murder. the judge, a local warlord. the execution ner, the victim's part. but this mobile phone footage is not from the taliban, it's from september this year, after a decade of american troops here, a brutal tribal form of justice is back. on his knees, the words condemned for killing his lover's husband. the alleged killer hold the gun right, he's told. stop shooting, they say. the warlord ordered him only to fight twice but the father just
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didn't stop. he's still alive, they say. but not for long. >> that video was shot in and by the gun keeping the taliban out, we're told n. exchange for the government letting them run their own victim. it's not the kind of compromise the understand imagined a decade ago, bringing a kind of swift and brutal justice as one eyewitness to the killing told us. >> gathered to carry a verdict accorded to the islamic law. he asked to forgive him and take some of his family's land and women in compensation but the father refused so the mulla's ordered an execution. he tried to buy his relieve but the mulla refused. >> the executed man's cousins
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say that they were beat during the questioning. >> after the murder, naroose was the suspect but said that he had been held by me and my cows in. for that reason, we were interrogated during the questioning but then he changed his story and said that he had carried out the murder alone. >> we would like strong government. there is no police presence here. and he would not have touched him. the story is simple. a jealous man kills his husband. an eye for an eye. they try to bring law in order but a decade after the taliban
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with an old clumsy. nick paton, cnn, kabul. >> as we mentioned earlier, a huge anger movement is spread spreading across wall street. next, answers about the protests of apple. like clockwork. ♪ for all the different things our customers planned for. like a college education. or, the perfect wedding. ♪ ♪ i love ya, tomorrow! [ male announcer ] we're making them a better financial future. what can we make with you? transamerica. transform tomorrow. [ male announcer ] that makes a chocolate aso smooth and creamy,l you don't just taste it, you feel it. ♪ do you believe in magic? ♪ ♪ it's magic ♪
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all right. let's get to the bottom of the occupy wall street thing. the anger, we know it's pal table and the message is powerful. >> inoccupy wall street. inoccupy wall street. >> we have -- >> we have. >> so the occupy wall street movement entered its fourth week just today and what began in lower manhattan has spread across the country. thousands are gathering to chant -- it's kind of hard to nail it down. >> we have a lot of anger and we don't feel our needs are being met. >> we're concerned about the bailouts that the banks got.
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>> i don't think there's ever going to be one set demand from this movement z all right. so that's the most comment knock against the occupy wall street movement. it has a lack of a cohesive message. that's what the critics say about it and that's why we invited a media rep for the movement. thank you so much for coming on. we know you are busy. listen, you're getting a lot of comparisons to the tea parties message. if you boil it down to one thing, it's no taxes. or if you want to say two things, it's a smaller government, right? so can you do the same with the occupy wall street movement, tyler? >> reporter: in a way we can. it's active democracy and everyone has a voice in government. those are the two messages that we're really trying to resonate. >> okay.
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thank you. everyone has a voice and active democracy. so what changes specifically are you asking for? . >> we're trying to broaden the discussion base first. we're trying to represent 99% of the country that has felt disenfranchised because of the recession and what's more important is to make sure that every american feels like their voice matters and being willing to express their opinions and talk to congress and all of society about what they feel should be the changes to happen. >> okay. so you said to talk to their congress people. but i've got to ask you this, then. so if you want to talk and listen, to demonstrate to, protest, that's part of being an american. can you do that, though, when you see people arrested, you know, no matter whose fault it is, whether it's the occupy wall street people or the police's
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fault? can you achieve what you want talking to your congressman by doing that? >> i think we have developed a system in this country where the corporate economy and corporate influence on government has become so great where you can't just talk to your congressman. you can't just expect to have your one vote matter as much as the lobbyist or the corporation that gives thousands of doll la lars to political campaigns. so gathering together is the best way to let government know that the people matter first. >> okay. so talk to your congressman and then also do other things, protest, if you want, take to the streets, correct? >> correct. >> okay. all right. a lot of supporters peeve clee online have criticize the media for not covering this or understanding this. unless you reach a certain threshold with the message, do you merit the attention? but in the beginning, the media
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got a lot of attention when there were protests in new york city of other cities bigger than the wall street occupy wall street movement. do you understand that now? >> we understood that it was going to be very hard to have this message resonate with most media, most press in this country when we first started. that's why we created our own media system internally with twitter and facebook. and we were upset at first that media wasn't covering us but as we grew we realized we garnered more coverage and respect because we showed lasting power. >> got you. okay. mayor bloomberg says that occupy wall street is trying to keep people from working in the city. what do you say about that? >> he also said we need to not be criticizing the banks because the banks are hurting as well. it's hard to take him at his this point.
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the fact that there are thousands and thousands of us out on the street and he's not really recognizing that we're a movement. >> okay. >> and we should be heard by new york politicians. >> okay. just for the sake of time, i want to get to this. do you worry about other officials co-opting your message? this is newt gingrich. we'll talk about it. >> you're going to see more protests and it's a tribute to the absolute failure of obama's policy, that somebody elected by the left now has the left rebelling and demonstrating and arguing against his policy. >> so is newt gingrich right here? is his movement a rebuke of president obama? >> i think this entire protest is a rebuke of the government. that includes the right and the left. they have not compromised on anything and there's a reason why there's a 13% approval rate in this country. >> tyler, thank you.
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we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me on. >> now, whether or not you agree with the occupy wall street protest, one thing is for certain, it's attracting a colorful group. and if you've been watching scenes from the movement in new york, you've noticed a certain white suited preacher. is he firing up the crowd. preacher man. >> shut down public space as much as they can but they don't know -- they don't know what shape our tarir square will take. >> that's reverend billy talen three weeks ago. he's not your typical preacher. he's part comedian, performance artist, and part anti-consumerism activist. i asked him, if there's a cohesive message here or if they were just making it up as they go along. >> the demands on the occupy
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wall street website are a live document in development every day. but from the very beginning, occupy wall street has been very precise. it's been specific. we're occupying public space with our body. and as we said in the clip, the five freedoms of the first amendment, speech, worship, protest, they -- they are being exercised there in liberty plaza. and it is having a tremendous impact. there we are in the shadow of the 65 floor -- the 65 story wall street banks. and people are just joining up. they understand in their commonsense what it's about. >> boil down the message for me, then. >> the banks, the big banks and big corporations have corrupted our democracy. and we're starting to democracy over in occupy wall street. we're sitting in circles. it's consensus. you can talk, you can listen. we're learning how to practice democracy live. and it's amazing how joyous it
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feels. >> and i think that it's okay, then, to say, we don't have one cohesive message. that this is democracy, a living democracy in action, and that we're learning every day. there's nothing wrong with that. so then why not just say that? just say, we're upset with wall street. we're upset with the big banks and this is democracy in action. maybe we don't have a clear message here but we're learning every day. what's wrong with that? you're the first person i've heard say that. >> what you're saying is true. but occupying wall street is precise. and embodying your democracy, coming down and being with us bringing your skills with us, we have many tasks, we have actions, parades, we have a lot of work to do. come down and join us. the era of the online petition is over. now it's a revolution. >> and just in case you're wondering, reverend billy is, in
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the case of a missing 10-month-old baby in kansas city, missouri. everyone sympathized when baby lisa went missing. the parents said that they woke up and their baby girl had vanished from her crib. >> we just want our baby back. please, bring her home. our two other boys are waiting for her. please, just drop her off anywhere. >> so then days later kansas city police accused the parents of not cooperating and now that seems not to be the case. for the latest development on this, let's go to ed lavandera outside of the parents' home in missouri. what's the update here? >> reporter: this has changed in just the last few minutes. we received an update from
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kansas city police officials that say that the parents of missing 10-month-old baby irwin are now meeting and talking again with investigators in this case. they say this is the best way to get to the bottom of what has happened with this missing baby. but, of course, this has overshadowed this investigation over the last couple of days where the police say that the couple abruptly stopped talking to them on thursday and now the investigators say that they are back at the table and meeting with investigators. this is what one of the officers had to tell us just a short while ago. >> there's a lot of people husband selling around trying to put this thing together and find this child. i'm sure there's a fair amount of frustration. i just came from the command post. and we're going to keep trying. no worries. no doubt about it, the best thing is for us to find this child so we couldn't be happier
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about it. >> reporter: now, clearly there's been some sort of tension building over the last couple of days. we asked the officer if this meant that there was a lawyer present at the conversations or if the couple was being interviewed separately. the officer won't answer that we're anxious to see what this could mean and more importantly is what detectives cannot say. that is, they have no leads in this investigation. no idea what has happened to little lisa irwin. that is the most disheartening and you can sense that on behalf of the police working on this case. bullied while their peers stand by a do nothing coming up next, how one high school student is taking action.
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you know, it isn't really news that kids get bullied. but for one high school student is taking some action. our contributor steve perry has the story. >> reporter: for joey, school must be survived. >> we don't go to school to get an education. we go to school to make it through the day without being killed or without being to the point where we need to kill ourselves. >> reporter: joey's trouble started in middle school when word got out that he was gay. >> so what did the kids do to you? >> a lot of threats.
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one kid is that they light me on fire. >> the child was not suspended. the child was not given anything other than a talking to and sent back to class. >> reporter: if i'm your son's principal and this has happened, what can i do to help you as a mom feel like i'm doing my job? >> teachers need to be trained or given permission in their classrooms to sus singly tolerate the behavior. >> reporter: this is the middle school teacher of the year and she's also joey's mom. >> the culture in schools don't really change until the whole school community take it on. >> most schools have a 45-minute tolerance assembly in their
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schools but if it's only once the entire year, it's like trying to put a band-aid on some one who needs surgery. it's not going to work. >> joey has created a facebook page. >> i really want you to keep up the amazing work. i wish i had the guts to help you without people judging me. >> the messages are all the same. schools across america do not know how to deal with the issue of bullying. >> reporter: but joey and his mom are hoping that that will change. >> there is a part of me that is did and that no matter how hard i work will always be gone. and i don't want any other child to have to deal with that. when i get that diploma, it's not going to be about the education i received. it's going to be about finally i can go through life in peace and i can get out of that survival mode and move into my life. >> a quick update on this story.
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joey and his mom recently moved from pennsylvania to new jersey. joey now goes to a high school where he feels safe because, as he put it, the administration is more accepting. he's looking forward to graduating in the spring and heading to college. next, a woman's protest movement against sexual attacks is causing controversy with the name they have chosen to make their point. [ female announcer ] for over 30 years, we've been dedicated to helping our students succeed in america's most in demand careers. we provide you with instructors who are professionals working in the fields they teach. it's an education designed for today, from a university that holds the same level of institutional accreditation as america's top schools. experience the university of phoenix difference at phoenix.edu. experience the university of phoenix difference
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women outraged over the idea that what they wear could be responsible for a sexual attack are taking to the streets. but not everyone likes the way their message is delivered. i have to warn you that this story has language that some viewers may find offensive. the so-called slut walk movement is growing global leave and our own brooke baldwin talks to them about their ending violence towards women. >> reporter: almost 3,000 supporters lining the streets of new york city chanting carrying banners and standing in solidarity for the cause known as "slutwalk movement." a police told a group of college
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campus girls that in order to not be victimized they should stop dressing like is the luts. >> reporter: those words sparked controversy a. diverse group all carrying one message. >> grand are a pid rapids -- >> blaming a victim is unacceptable. >> it's been used a as tool of torture or genocide. >> while the name sparked controversy, the organizers used it as a vehicle to get their message out. some see it as a revival of feminism. >> in different times of society, women have stood up. and burning bras was considered provocative. i think at different times to meet what's going on in culture and society, women have taken different avenues to do that. >> caroline turner says clothing is never supposed to be an excuse for an assault.
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>> you can't ask a wok not to wear what she wants to wear and say that will prevent rape from happening. it happens to women in military uniforms, sweaters and jeans. >> not everyone agrees with the slug walk's approach in an open letter to the members of the slug walk movement, founders of the advocacy group, black women's blueprint say they cannot self-identify with terminology meant to dehumanize, words these young organizers are cognizant of as they plan their next steps. >> it's an about entire movement of people who come together all around the globe who don't want to see sexual violence occur any longer. it' not about the name, it's about the message. >> brooke bald wynn, cnn, atlanta. the exhibitionist nature of many of the marcher detracts from the message. i'd be interested to see what you think. reach out to facebook at don lemon cnn, tweet me there as
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longest running scripted television show in history. and for good reason. >> oh, my god, that's my hero, michelle kwan. >> you remind me of a young dorothy hammel. >> i didn't know you could talk. >> the last in danger. however, the two sides saved themselves in a doh moment by resolve their issues. shan nop cook joins us with the details. shannon, first of all, do you like my doh! and this was over salaries, right? >> you do a better doh than the cast of the simpsons themselves. it was over salaries. talks are hitting a snag when the characters asked to take a 45% pay cut. fox tv claimed they couldn't keep the show going with the existing business model. but we know that the show will go on for at least two more seasons and that the cast
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members have all signed on. fox hasn't actually indicated whether or not they took a pay cut, but it's expected that they most probably did. so, regardless, we're going to see a 24th and 25th season of this beloved program which has been going since 1989, i believe. >> i can't believe it. is that the last season? it's too early to tell, the 25th? >> there's been no indication as to whether or not that 25th season will be the last. >> okay. >> but fox's statement on the matter quoted homer simpson. and he very humorously bragged about outlasting andy rooney. very proud of that apparently. >> on now to rocker courtney love. you know, we're used to being outrageous. what she told "vanity fair" is shocking, even for her. >> yeah, not a very graceful moment from courtney love. in her interview with "vanity
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fair" magazine, she was asked, are you still angry with your ex curt cobain for committing suicide. here's what she said, mad, yeah think? if he came back right now, i'd have to kill him for what he did to us. i'm not going to read the rest of my quote because my mother is watching. she's had enough of my potty mouth. but love also talked in interview about her relationship with her estranged daughter. no doubt she'll expand on these things in her tell-all memoir which is much hyped and supposedly coming out in about a year. >> okay, speaking of telling all, sharon osborne, reality tv star, tv talent show judge opens up about her breasts. what? >> maybe telling a little bit too much. on cbs' show, osborne revealed that she woke up one morning and one of her breasts was longer than the other. it was leaking.
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her surgeon said it was leaking into the wall of her stomach. you can't make this stuff up. so she had surgery and she had her implants removed and she said she's loving it. she's very happy. she said she no longer feels like she has a water bed lying on her chest. what would saturday night be without you and i talking about breasts, i mean, come on? >> it would be a very boring saturday night. i would say, but that can be dangerous depending, though, seriously whether it's silicone or -- i don't know if they still use it. i don't know that much about implants, or saline i don't think it could be that dangerous. but it could be very dangerous. >> well, right, especially when it leaks into the wall of your stomach which sounded dire. sounds like she did the right thing. >> okay. maybe we shouldn't be talking about that. so, listen, let's go back to courtney love. people -- with all of the expletives, you said you wouldn't read it. we bleeped out the fings and all
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that. we put dots on the screen. >> you go for it, don't you? >> let me say this, that is quite -- whatever you think of courtney love, that's quite an honest statement to say if he came back, i'd kill him. imagine seriously what she and her family and his family went through when, you know, when he killed himself. >> ion credible stress. she's not handled it well at all. we often see her coming out with these sort of -- sort of crazy things that she's said. and she continues to maintain a career, though. she still makes music. last year she released an album that got fairly good reviews. she manages to keep it together enough, then she comes out and says things like this and people think, oh, gosh, courtney, please be a little bit more tactful. but i'm curious to read her memoir. it could be an interesting read. >> people will want to hear, of course, about the early years d
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