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happen rather than wait for it. share the book and movie with as many people as possible. >> it's inspiring and motivating. good luck with it. the documentary is debuting this weekend. "dying to do letterman." >> yeah you can get the book and movie at dyingtodoletterman.com. 360 is next. thanks. we begin with breaking news. a guilty verdict for a man in connecticut. he was convicted on 17 counts against him including murder, kidnapping and arson. the jury heard gruesome testimony. the only survivor, father and husband, dr.petit. he's been in court every day.
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he spoke of the man convicted for brutalizing his family. >> i'm not surprised at all. i thought from the beginning that he was a lying sociopathic personality. he probably doesn't think he's guilty of anything. he's convinced himself of that, i suspect. >> you'll hear more from him in the courtroom coming up on "360." first, we are keeping them honest on the campaign trail. we touched last night, the latest wall street journal poll cain has report of 27% of republican voters. romney, 23% and ranked third, rick perry. today, cain sat down with erin burnett keeping him honest, cain said questionable things. we begin with his comments to
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kill the saudi ambassador to the united states. watch. >> i happen to believe this attempted assassination that iran has their fingerprints all over based on the reports we have seen is because this president is perceived as weak. >> mr. cain, we would love to see those reports. nowhere have we seen the suspected plot came about because president obama is weak. in fact, nowhere aside from you has it been suggested that's how it came about. now to mr. cain's economic vision. he's been talking about the nine, nine, nine plan. a 9% business tax, 9% individual tax and 9% tax. today, in the interview, the ceo of godfather's pizza said his plan will help the economy. >> when this economy is growing
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with the nine, nine, nine plan, we will grow at a robust rate. >> remember that. keeping them honest, there are serious questions about that. cain's nine, nine, nine plan brings in nearly $1.77 trillion. currently, we bring in way more than that, at least $2.16 trillion. he brings in 18% to 20% less in tax revenue. there's no talk of the economy growing at a robust rate now from several economists and others including one of his own paid political consultants. they don't think the plan would pass. he said the problem is the flat tax or fair tax is they are so alien to the current system, it would be a great big shock. others said this week in the new york times, at a minimum, it is
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a distributional monstrosity. the poor would pay more an rich would pay less. there's good reason to believe the budget deficit would increase. some of the critics from the 9-9-9 plan. i spoke with the senior adviser to the romney campaign. you have seen the new numbers. herman cain has a 4% lead on your boss. regardless, what happened? why is he suddenly on top of the pack? >> he's a serious competitor. mitt romney respects and admires him. they both have private sector experience. mitt believes that is going to be an important quality in the next president. herman is going to get more attention now that he's moving up in the polls. one thing people will look at closely is the 9-9-9 plan. the proposed change in tax
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policy. i think there are a couple significant drawbacks on that. >> i want to focus on governor romney. he ran for the nomination last year. they know who he is and what he stands for but still having trouble with the base. rush limbaugh says he's not a candidate. he's not. you can argue with me all day. he is a gentleman, but not a conservative. why are we hearing statements like that? >> i have the privilege of serving with mitt romney turing his time in massachusetts. this is an individual who fought for english emersion in the schools. he fought to lower taxes. he fought to cut spending and government. this is an individual who is most definitely a conservative. >> he was also pro-choice. he wrote in his campaign against kennedy, some conservatives
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question his change of heart. he calls it a legitimate change of heart. some conservatives question that. >> our come pain is growing in momentum every day. we announced the endorsement of chris christie. i don't think there's a more significant voice for cutting spending and reforming government in the country than governor christie. we feel good about the direction of the campaign and how things are going. >> let's turn to the outside of the political spectrum. the obama campaign is going negative on yours. they view governor romney as the likely nominee. now today, you and david axelrod taking this to the twitter verse. axelrod writes a year ago he was too tough on china, now he's a trade warrior. should have called his book "no shame." rename obama's book how i golfed
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my way to a recession. part of this is funny, but is it a sign of things to come? >> what you can expect from the white house is more hocus pocus meant to distract people from the bad state of the economy. in some ways, he reminds me of the magicians who uses something called redirection to distract the attention of the audience from the performance of the trick. the trick in this case is trying to get barack obama reelected despite his failures on the economy. i think this election is going to be a referendum on the performance of barack obama when it comes to creating jobs. >> appreciate your time. >> thank you, john. let's dig into the raw politics. gloria, susan and ken are with us.
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gloria, the white house has this conference call. obama is the front-runner. herman cain shakes things up. is the obama-romney narrative getting ahead of itself? >> they have nothing to lose. when you judge people in the white house, they say mitt romney is going to be the toughest opponent and the toughest to beat. let me be cynical here, if i might, in taking on mitt romney, they also remind republicans about why they don't like mitt romney. that sort of sews more discord in the republican part, which is what the obama campaign would like to do. it serves a couple purposes. why not do it early. >> i'm shocked. i can't speak now that you said it's cynical.
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susan, you are a supporter. romney is at the top or close to the top. cain jumped to the top. in the poll, he has more support with the tea party voters. are you worried? >> i think herman cain is an incredible candidate. he's done a fine job in the debates in terms of coming from nowhere and capturing imagination. we are going to have a race of who is going to be second or first. i'm not worried at this point. i was, as you know, a chris christie supporter. what governor romney has shown us is consistency and leadership and sticking to a thoughtful pattern of how he would govern, i think he's going to close the deal with conservatives as more as more of the momentum continues to move to mitt romney when it comes to money and
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organization. again, when it comes to consistency. you spent a few minutes challenging herman cain on things he has not been challenged before. when you are the personable, colorful candidate, you have a tendency not to get hit by the media and have the opportunity to rise in the polls. >> herman cain will get the tougher ride. >> it's starting already. >> ken, susan just noted, at this time four years ago, giuliani was ahead in the poll. we should remember that. i don't remember the giuliani administration. who was the front-runner. he's got the organization. herman cain is on the rise and connecting with people. >> i think you outlined it properly. herman cain is on the rise. romney has been out there longer. he has the money. he has the organization. i think the compressed primary
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schedule plays to his favor given his superior organization and his money. but he does have a challenge. if, in fact, his 28%, 27% when he's around that number, over the average is his ceiling, that's problematic for him. that suggests he's going to have difficult challenges in a very conservative state. so, you know, all of them have their challenges. herman has caught on because he's imaginative, he's out there, he's new. but, you know, his plan is going to come under scrutiny. what's going to get a lot of conservatives about the 9-9-9 plan is right on growth and simplification but wrong when you talk about giving the federal government the op tun tie to tax states.
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that changes the relationship between the government and the states. >> i want everyone to listen here. the first lady of texas making an emotional speech in south carolina today. listen to this. >> it's been a rough month. i have to tell you, we have been brutalized and beaten up and chewed nup in the press to where i need this. we are being brud lized by our opponents and our own party. so much of that is, i think they look at him because of his faith. he's the only true conservative -- well, there are some conservatives. they are there for good reasons. and they may feel like god called them, too. but i truly feel like we are here for that purpose. >> nbc caught that moment. gloria, we are here for that purpose. brutalized by other republicans because of his faith. how is that going to sell?
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>> i don't think it's going to sell well at all. the last thing you want to do is make a presidential candidate looks like somebody who is complaining or a victim. this is a brutal race. he's been brutalized by his opponents because that's what happens to front-runners. rick perry was up there for a little bit as front-runner. he could come back as the front-runner, but i don't think this kind of language will help her husband at all. particularly when you challenge the motives of other candidates in the field and saying that it was his calling as opposed to anyone else's. i don't think that helps. >> i understand as the daughter of an elected official and wife of an elected official, it's harder on the familiar to watch what a candidate has to go through. governor perry has gone through and has been brutalized because
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he's done such a disappointing job in the debates and his failure to come to the expectations that a lot of people had as a political person. to say he's been demonized because of his faith when we just had a president of the united states like george bush who was up front about his faith, jesus is the person he went there. i think it does not -- i agree with gloria, i don't think it helps the campaign or politics or the discussion. >> ken, what about with evangelicals? how will this play out? >> in the final analysis, when you talk about the important issues of marriage and life, we sort of look at catholics, mormons as they have a public agenda around which they can
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rally, even if their theologies don't match one another. anybody that tries to divide religious lines within the conservative movement is going to be in trouble. anybody who tries to play the victim, whether they are mormon or baptist or catholic will find that won't go there with them. >> appreciate it. a programming note, you can see all the republican candidates tuesday night when anderson hosts the debate in las vegas here on cnn. let us know what you think on facebook or twitter. up next, another keeping them honest report. president obama outing his jobs plan and slamming republicans for not having a blueprint. they are not saying what they don't like about his plan. the truth is, republicans have done both. a second man convicted of murderinger a mother and two young daughters. we'll hear from the sole survivor, the father who lost
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another keeping them honest report. president obama is touting his jobs plan and counting on congress to pass it. his wish is not their command. mr. obama has tough words for republicans. this is what he said today. >> the last time i was here at a press conference, i said, i asked you guys to show us the republican jobs plan that independent economists would put people back to work. i haven't yet seen it. so, eventually, i'm hoping that they actually put forward some proposals that indicate that they feel that sense of urgency that people need to put people back to work right now. >> he's hoping republicans put forward a proposal that shows a
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sense of urgency of creating jobs. keeping him honest, republicans haven't unveiled a plan. house speaker john boehner has his thoughts on how to improve the economy. >> the president's proposals are a poor substitute. the policies needed to remove barriers to job creations in america. the policy that is are needed to put america back to work. if we want job growth, we need to recognize who creates jobs in america. this is the private sector. >> the speaker isn't the only republican sharing ideas. today, after the president spoke at the white house, senate republicans touted their own plans. here is senator john mccain. >> this bill will serve as a blueprint to bring our country back economically, create jobs and give americans hope again for the future. now, obviously, president obama
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has his plan. there is a dramatic difference between ours and his because president obama and my friends on the other side of the aisle in the senate believe they can create jobs through government spending. we believe we can create jobs through growth. they believe government creates and spending creates jobs. we believe business and growth creates jobs in america. >> now that plan is different than the president's plan senator mccain noted, but it is a plan. listen to this message from the president earlier this month. >> if it turns out that there are republicans opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies why they are opposed and what would they do. >> he wants republicans to
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explain why they are popposed t his plan. they released a letter on the president's jobs proposal. they have concerns about money to improve the nation's roadways. they say while spending to improve infrastructure can play a part in short term and long term adding money is more likely to produce waste than meaningful results. they took issue from another part of the proposal. a continuation of spending from the 2009 stimulus bill. i spoke with jessica yellen who had an exchange with the president and david gergen. jessica, democrats talking to the president about breaking up the jobs bill. that's something the white house did not want to do but inevitable, they had to change their tune?
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>> well, given the status of congress, yes. it works politically. the white house will get behind this effort by congress to have the republicans vote -- have all congress vote on each component. everybody is forced to vote on the measure to reemploy unemployed teachers, rebuild schools. the idea here, politically, john, is for the white house to go out on the road and effectively say house republicans or commission republicans have voted against each one of the measures that is so popular with the american people. try to tie them around the neck of house republicans and make house republicans unpopular and in the future, tie them to whoever the 2012 republican candidate is. it's a political gamble but it's the president's move this winter. john. >> it's a political conversation, david. 25 million americans unemployed
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or underemployed. the president spoke to speaker boehner today. the speaker says it's time to stop the campaign and start listening. is that a valid point? or is anything he does going to be labeled as campaigning in. >> it's time for both sides to stop campaigning for awhile. clearly, it's not just the jobs bill. what the politicians on washington are doing is strictly on the margins. they will not help this economy very much in the next few months. that's very plain. what they are trying to do is help themselves. we have gotten to a point where one of the fastest growing jobs is the obama election campaign. he raised $70 million. that's creating jobs. i'm not sure there are many in the real economy. >> the president is going to make a case against the republicans.
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there are some democrats, maybe not a lot, but some democrats opposed to the jobs bill. when jim webb says something like this, i cannot support the final passage. i emphasize my long held belief taxes should not be raised. it should be paid for through other means. jim webb saying even if it's a millionaire, don't raise taxes on them because it hurts the economy. >> right and the senators of montana and nebraska voted no to move forward on the bill. there are some democrats who are not in support of this at all. it complicated it a little for the president. he does not have the support of his entire party. because it's a political fight, he can message it against the republicans. the bottom line is, the bigger question is, will he be able to peel off enough republicans to
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get some component parts passed? advisers believe in the end, they will be able to pass the unemployment insurance extension and payroll tax hike. maybe that's it. >> some of that optimism jessica spoke about is that republicans weren't opposed to everything in the plan. watch. >> some of the president's proposals, i think, offer an opportunity for common ground. >> i like the idea of corporate reform. >> we can do things together. we can work together on those kind of things. >> being on the record with statements like that, is there pressure on republicans to support part of it, some of it or say never mind, we are in campaign mode? >> no, john, i think there's a political game on both sides. the president wants to accuse the republicans of obstructing progress on jobs.
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but the republicans, i think, are wisely saying let's try to work together on some of this. take away the sense of obstructing or opposing everything the president wants to do. just yesterday, you know, the republicans helped the president get his trade bills through. that was a positive step forward. there will be a couple more things. the republicans are trying to take the sting out. they don't have the albatross of 9% unemployment. >> as we break it into pieces, we'll see where it heads next. many thanks. >> thank you. the politics continue here on cnn tomorrow morning. governor rick perry is a guest on ""american morning." tomorrow morning here on cnn. up next, more on the breaking news on the connecticut triple murder trial. a mother and two daughters held hostage, then killed.
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more on a breaking news story. guilty is what a connecticut jury said 17 times of a man accused in a horrific murder. charged with murder, kidnapping, burglary, assault. he broke into a home, raped and strangled his wife before setting a fire that killed their two young daughters. a 17-year-old and 11-year-old. the father was able to escape. the penalty phase, that part of
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the trial set for october 24th. this was dr. petits reaction after the verdict. >> going back to the trial and hearing the testimony and seeing the evidence brings everything back in focus. things you don't necessarily want to have in sharp focus and around your brain 24 hours a day. so, it's been very difficult but it's not clear to me that time heals all wounds, but you form some form of scars that, like i said in an interview, a jagged hole in your heart. until she was 11 years old would look my brother-in-law in the face. when ever men came along, she was incredibly shy around men. once she got to know you, she would talk with you but, you know, to hear a statement that they locked eyes and there was a bond was really nauseating and
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really beyond the pale. that is not something she would have ever done with a man who broke into her bedroom and sexually assaulted her. there was nothing i could do to make that better by looking like an enranged or crazed father. i thought all of them would want me to conduct myself with respect and dignity in spite of the circumstances. so, i thought it would really dishonor their memories to act crazy, be violent, just -- i can see jen standing there and she would chastise me without a doubt if i had that kind of attitude. i think it was really with their memory. >> beautiful family. deb was in the courtroom when
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the verdict came in. take us inside that courtroom. what was the reaction. >> reporter: you know, it was very, very emotional. the jury came in, did not look at the defendant. a lot of times they say because it's not going to go in his favor. when they did read the verdict, guilty on all counts, members of the petit family wept. the relief of this moment because they had been sitting through it for such a long time. no emotion. he sat and stared at the jury as they read the verdict. then he got up and appeared he yawned as he was let out of court and back to prison. a different reaction on both sides. the lack of reaction and remorse from him. >> dr. petit makes an important point. he said the case is not over, yet. still the sentencing phase to come, right? >> reporter: that's exactly right. john, we are going to hear a lot
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more testimony during that phase. as a matter of fact the defense lawyers want to introduce 100 pages of letters written by the accomplice who is on death row already and the judge initially wouldn't allow it saying no, that will seal his doom. they want to bring it in. they are trying to save his life. that was their intention from the beginning, trying to make him at least a little bit sympathetic that it didn't happen during this from the testimony we heard this time. whether they can prove that during the next phase, well, they are trying to save his life. that's their goal. >> it is clear how horrified, angry he was with the things the defense said. he managed somehow, a man who lost so much, to keep his voice very calm. no outward anger. remarkable. >> reporter: it is. it is. he really is truly a remarkable man in terms of the way he handled all of this.
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the media, they knew. nobody ran up to him asking questions or probing on how he was feeling on any given day. they kept a respectful distance. he said when he was ready, he would speak. think about this, he had to sit there in court listening to the voice of his daughter's tormentor. it takes a very brave man. he wanted the jury to know they knew the family was there. >> thank you so much. fascinating coverage. let's get the latest on other stories. >> harsh words for iran today. president obama had the toughest sentence for the plot to kill the saudi ambassador on u.s. soil as a senior white house official tells cnn of a direct meeting of iran held yesterday. who attended the meeting and where it was held has not been
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disclosed. a rape case dropped against dominique strauss-kahn. a journalist accused him of trying to rape here in 2003. brian harrison stepped down last week. he received $535 million loan guarantee from the obama administration before it was forced to shut down in august. good news for all you blackberry users out there. worldwide service is now fully restored according to the company's founder. the outage affecting millions around the globe. the back up system failed as well. john, you can now sleep easily tonight, your blackberry is working. >> nine hours yesterday. nine hours. >> you counted each hour, i'm sure. >> in some ways it was a curse.
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in other ways it was a blessing. >> don't lie to me now. >> i went back and forth. still ahead, prosecutors in the michael jackson trial are expected to rest their case next week. a look at dr. murray's defense and a documentry on bullying. anderson is with the film maker when "360" continues. there's only one bottle left ! i've got to tell susie ! the vending machine on elm is almost empty. i'm on it, boss. new pony ? sorry ! we are open for business. let's reroute greg to fresno. growing businesses use machine-to-machine technology from verizon wireless. susie ! the vending machine... already filled. cool bike. because the business with the best technology rules.
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medicine but gross negligent and killed the singer. >> he was grossly negligent in multiple incidences. that caused the death of michael jackson, correct? >> absolutely. >> the defense will call their own expert witnesses to counter what the jurors have heard so far. >> defense attorneys for dr. conrad murray will argue michael jackson caused his own death. they say jackson, desperate for sleep swallowed eight pins, then used a syringe with propofol without murray's knowledge. >> would you think a doctor who prescribed that, and the patient took them off, the doctor would be responsible? >> the propofol bottle they say they found inside an i.v. bag.
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they say murray gave jackson the pr propofol through the i.v. drip. the battle was outside a clear i.v. bag with no milky white substance. no one claimed the propofol bottle was inside the i.v. bag until two years after jackson's death. >> in fact, the very first time that you note d that there was propofol bottle in an i.v. bag was the 29th of march, 2011. >> in case notes. >> yes. >> yeah. >> isn't that right? >> yes. >> you never do mention in your note as propofol bottle was
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found in an i.v. bag, is that fair? >> that would be fair. >> reporter: another theory jackson was addicted to demerol. it was given by dr. arne klein. >> are you aware michael jackson was a habitual user of demerol? >> sustained. >> have you read dr. klein's medical records regarding michael jackson? >> no. >> reporter: defense says the demerol addiction led to the insomnia and klein and others had been giving him drugs for years. murray was trying to help the singer get off the drugs. >> mr. jackson was my friend. i loved him. michael jackson may have had a dependency to a substance. i was trying to wean him off. >> reporter: defense is likely
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to shift them to the insulated world michael jackson created around him. the argue that murray didn't call 911 right away because he thought the chef was doing it for him. he called the security guards first because he knew they would never let an ambulance on the grounds. the jury could get the case by the end of next week. ted rollins, cnn. joining me now, sunny hostin. damaging testimony. the witnesses and prosecution. you say it's almost like a medical malpractice case? >> it is. it sounds like a medical malpractice case. i think the prosecution left the best for last. they left the medicine for last. we are hearing from all these expert witnesses, we are hearing from dr. alan stineburg, dr. mcdreamy. he was unflappable. a cardiologist, he talked about six, not one, not two, but six
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deviations from the standard of care. extreme deviations. then we heard from a sleep medicine expert. john, he said dr. murray's actions were inconceivable to him. you don't use propofol in a non-medical setting for insomnia. you just don't do it. we heard from dr. stephen shafer who is the person who developed the fda dosing guidelines for propofol. we heard about his expert qualifications. my understanding is he is the last prosecution expert. this is a tight case by the prosecution in california. they are known for overtrying their cases. not so in this case. they really left the best for last. very, very strong case, this prosecution put forth. >> outside the courtroom, we find out jackson's eldest son
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says dr. murray did not comfort them. they are not sequestered could the jury hear about it? could it impact the outcome. >> they are told not to look at television or read media reports about the trial. i hope they are keeping to that. many people are saying perhaps prince will testify in the rebuttal case. he would directly contradict dr. murray's account. initially, we know prince and paris wanted to testify. john and cath lynn jackson did not want them to testify. it's possible next week we may hear from one of michael jackson's children. >> you made the point, you think the defense has a steep hill. whack is the one thing you are looking for to see if they have a good case? >> it's going to be a case of the battle of the experts. we know on the defense witness list is dr. paul white.
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many describe him as the father of propofol. very, very interesting he is on the defense case because he is the best -- one of the closest friends of dr. stephen shafer on the state's list. i believe we will hear from him. we may hear from another cardiologist. i think it's going to be a battle of the experts. we'll see which side wins on that. >> thanks for being here tonight. still ahead, our special report on bullying. a look at real-life bullies in action. . big deal, persuade him. is it wise to allow a perishable item to spoil? he asked, why leave a room empty? the additional revenue easily covers operating costs. 65 dollars is better than no dollars. okay. $65 for tonight. you can't argue with a big deal.
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an in-depth look at an epidemic we have been covering on "360." bullying. it's rare to be caught on camera. a new documentry called "the bullying project." the parents featured met with the president and the first lady. it gives a glimpse of the cruelty children endure. this is what a 13-year-old faced on a school bus in sioux city, iowa. >> what? [ inaudible ] >> no, no, no.
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why are you stabbing me with it. >> i ought to knock your face-off. >> give it to him, hard. >> at a recent town hall anderson sat down with the director and others. >> on the film, it's extraordinary. we watched it last night. it's incredible. you spent a year in this school. was it surprising what you saw and what you were able to capture? >> it didn't surprise me. the goal of making the film was to get out there and show what kids go through, to show how it goes through, to give it something real so we could stop denying it. so we could stop saying this is a writ of passage. >> you were so concerned about alex, you showed the fattage to
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his mom. >> at some point you have gotten used to this. i'm not. i'm not used to it. i didn't know. i'm not about to get used to it. does it make you feel good when they punch you or kick you or stab you? do these things make you feel good? >> no. i don't know. i'm starting to think i don't feel anything anymore. >> you watched this last night with your kids? >> that was the moment that i think scared me the most when he said i don't feel anything anymore. you see a boy who has been failed on every level. when he said i don't feel anything anymore, kids will go to great lengths to feel something. somebody needs to intervene. >> these bullies have parents.
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where are the parents? if your child is a bully, it's your job to know. it's your job to know that. it's your job to intervene at that level as a parent. it's your job to talk to the school. >> i have talked to parent who is tried to intervene and the parents don't recognize it as a problem. >> that's what i'm saying, they don't see it. a lot of times it's modelled in the home, aggressive behavior in the home and that becomes the norm. >> we can't control these homes, but we can control what happens to kids at school. we can have -- we can push from one empathy. we can push for understanding. that's where we have a chance to make an impact. >> do you agree with lee that the school, i mean, yes, it would be great if people could fix families but the school is the place to address this? at least it's the most obvious
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place? not that it's easy, but the easiest place to address it? >> it's almost a fruitless enterprise. you have to institute it in the schools and there has to be real -- there has to be real consequences for the kids who bully. they are not shot out of a vacuum. they come from a home that instills values and behaviors. there's nothing we can do about it. at the schools and legislative level we can protect these kids. >> a special study to help stop the bullying epidemic. bullying, it stops here is tomorrow, october 14th at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. here on cnn. we'll be right back. ♪ and the flowers and the trees ♪
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