he's from texas. however, his favorite movie is the immortal beloved. our friends at "the washington times" didn't know what that was and i didn't either. it's a 1994 drama and ludwig van beetoven. >> thank you very much. thanks for joining us. see you back here tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. now, we're going to turn to a friend i don't see unless we're on television. susan malveaux. we both vice president p happened to like chick flicks. i'm a sucker for "when harry met sally." >> and "terms of endearment." want to get to up to speed for friday, october 28th. occupy wall street demonstrators are taking their message where the money is. that is the banks. protesters plan to march on the offices of five major banks.

today, they say they're going to deliver hows of letters to top board members of bank of america, morgan stanley, wells fargo, citigroup and jpmorgan chase. wall street ceo who says he's part of the 1%, confronts the occupy protesters who say they represent the 99%. demonstrators argued that the wealthiest 1% of americans keeps getting richer while the other 99% struggle. peter shift and a camera crew went to the park in new york to challenge him. >> no. >> we're in the 99%! >> wouldn't you like to get into the 1%? you don't want more money? if i offered to put you in the 1% right now -- >> and i would pay my share and get rid -- >> okay, hold on. >> immediately, immediately! >> investors are taking a step back after yesterday's huge rally. well, the dow fell 25 points in early trading.

right now, it is up six points. it is encouraging. october shaping up to be the best month for the s&p 500 since 1974. the dow industrials are are up almost 1300 points this month. well, tunisia, anger over the country's election now turning to violence. supporters of the popular petition party attacked an office of the party that won. now, protesters were angry that some of the candidates were accused of violating campaign finance rules and disqualified. another remarkable story of survival is emerging from the rubble of the earthquake in turkey. rescuers pulled a 13-year-old boy from a collapsed apartment building. that happened early today. that's 108 hours after the quake struck. 187 people now have been b rescued. but officials say the number of those who were killed rose today to 570.

rising water, high anxiety in thailand. the next high tide could send flood waters pouring deep into the capital. bangkok. the outer suburbs are already flooded. officials are hoping that the levees and other defenses will protect central areas of the city, but as sara sidener tells us, the system is already being put to the test. >> one point this morning after high tide, you could see water on every single street leading in and out of chinatown. some of it about a foot high. some college students in maryland can say their ship has come in. more than 200 students from st. mary's college in maryland are going to be living on a cruise ship because of mold in the dorms. the sea voyager is expected to stay docked for the rest of the semester. classes are canceled today so the students can get on board. the comeback cardinals

forced the world series into another game tonight. st. louis stunned the rangers last night winning 10-9. a home run in the 11th inning gave st. louis the win. today, the occupy protesters, they're on the move. they plan to march through the streets of new york in just a couple of hours. now, they're headed to the offices of five major banks. they want to hand deliver letters to executives at institutions like bank of america, morgan stanley and they've got a message. cnn producer sheila stephan. she is with us life. she is there at the sight. it has been said time and time again that the protesters, they don't have a hard and fast set of demands here, so taking on the banks seems to be one of the big themes here. what do these letters say specifically? do they give us any sense of what the demands are?

>> no list of demands. there's never been a list of demands, but the seemingly leaderless group has lots of frustrations and the letters, nearly 7,000 of them today, are from people who are facing foreclosure, eviction, student debt, extended unemployment and they're coming together express these feelings and deliver these letters. one of which is from a woman who is facing foreclosure and writes a letter to the ceo of chase, jamie dimon, and says i've submitted applications for mortgage modification more than a dozen times and am still waiting for a straight answer. every night, i lie awake hoping you do not take away my home before that happens. she invites mr. dimon to visit the area in queens she says has been devastated by foreclosures. these are the kinds of letters they will be delivers this afternoon. >> over the last couple of days, we've seen some peaceful protests turn ugly.

in oakland on tuesday, protesters were throwing paint, bottles at police. police responded with tear gas and bean bags. can you give us a sents of what the mood is like? is there tension between protesters and police? >> a move by the fire department this morning at the park where the occupiers have been camping out now for 42 days caught them off guard. four generators were removed and many of the occupiers felt this was a tactical move rather than any real safety issue. and of course, the timing of this comes right before an expected cold snap in the area. >> do we have any response from those banks, from the letters that are being delivered? >> we do not. i suspect they may know this is happening and it will be interesting to see how they may respond to some of these very personal letters that take issue

with the way the banks have handled their situation. >> thank you very much. here's what's ahead on the run down. iraq war vet is seriously injured at an occupy oakland protest and now, the mayor is apologizing. we're going to have a live report. also, an 18 wheeler catches fire near houston. lights up the night sky. plus, a child born on monday will be number 7 billion on earth, so do you know what your number is? we'll show you how to find out. and should couples be forced to wait a year before they get divorced? >> the only people that it would affect our people that are using marriage as dating. i mean, if you get married every two years, yeah. you know, but i don't know. i think it's silly. >> finally, a new poll suggests hillary clinton would do better than the president against the current field of republican candidates.

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water and paint at the police officers and as the protesters started marching back towards their encampments, police officers opened up with rubber bullets, tear gas and smoke can sfers. >> so now, the mayor of oakland is apologizing for what happened tuesday night. i want to bring in dan simon who's live in oakland. what is the mayor saying? >> well because of what happened and the negative backlash we've seen because of what happened to scott olson, the mayor has apologized and is now saying those protesters can go back to that spot in front of city hall and they can stage their protest. it's an amazing reversal and had this to say last night. >> i am very deeply saddened about what happened last tuesday. it clearly didn't turn out the way we wanted it to. people were hut and i am the mayor, so i take responsibility and i apologize to those who

were hurt. >> and what the does is it really raises the question about her leadership, about the city's leadership. why they wanted to boot these protesters in the first place if 48 hours, you're just going to let them back. what's the strategy going forward? she hasn't answered that yet, but because of the negative tension the city received, they felt like this was the best way to go forward. >> sure. i mean, it sounded like she was pretty genuine in her apology, but the protesters want more than that. they want some answers. do we have any new details about how olson got his head fractured in what was supposed to be a peaceful rally? >> well, we don't really know what happened. you know, the video is fairly inconclusive. it shows him clearly injured right after it happened. in terms of what occurred, we don't know. you can only sort of assume that he was hit with some sort of

police projectile, maybe a tear gas canister. we know it's really gal vonized the movement. not only here in oakland, but elsewhere. >> do we get a sense that now they are going to fight even harder stay even longer at that sight? is there any tension between protesters and police now? >> well, no question there is some lingering resent. . they weren't going to let the mayor speak yesterday. they said if she wanted to speak, she had to wait in line just like everyone else. what we seem to have figured out here is that the police are to wanting a hands off policy at this point given the negative attention that they receive, but how long this can go on we just don't know. it seems like the protesters are intent on staying there indefinitely and what the city

will do going forward, they haven't laid out those plans yet. >> thank you so much. checking stories making news across the country, a tanker carrying several thousand gallons of diesel fuel caught fire last night in the houston suburb of sugarland. the driver told police he pulled over after hearing a loud pop. the heat from the fire burned utility poles, knocked out power to nearby businesses. earlier this month, we told you about a family in massachusetts who got lost in a corn maze. they called 911. this time, the couple couldn't find their way out of an apple orchard. >> i said, my problem is i'm holding this heavy bag of apples and we're walking for eternity and we're never going to find our car. you've got this 56-year-old guy, who's been a weather man forever, who should know his geography feeling like a jerk calling police. now on two new york harbor

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all right, so we asked you what is the most tweeted event per second in the world so far this year? osama bin laden's death, that comes in tenth. japan's earthquake and tsunami, that is number seven. number one tweet, beyonce, yes, revealing her baby bump at the video music awards in august. she got a record 8,868 tweets per second. unbelievable. and kind of surprising, actually. while we're talking numbers, let's talk about this one. 7 billion. this is soon going to be the world's population. i want to bring in erol. monday, right, is when we expect we're going to hit the 7 billion mark on the planet? 7 billion folks here. how do we find out where each of us fits into that number? >> i've got some websites that

our viewers should take a note of. the birth takes place monday, but the question is, where do we rank in that? you can check this out now. populationaction.org. click on what's your number. got the running tally as we approach that 7 billionionth birth. i was born in '83 on april 3rd and my number is right there. i was the 4.7 billion birth. this is the expo nen shl growth. by 2050, they expect there will be more than 9 billion people in the world, so you get to see what you contribute to that and as i've talked about this week as we look at more people in the world, we have to figure out better ways to share resources and use energy more wisely as

well. another website that the united nations has set up, they have their tally as well. but you get to figure out what birth you were out of all the people who have ever lived. this website, the number 7 billion and me.org. you enter a bit more information and then click on enter and here's the massive number in the entire history of the world, i was the 79 billion 395 million 657 thousand 944th birth. then the regional breakdown of where people lived in the world and how many people were born on the day you were born. generally, this just makes you feel very small in the grand scheme of things, but helps you understand where your birth contributed to the big number. >> i'm going to put in my numbers. i'm not going to tell you mine. you were born in '83. i'm a little bit older. >> you were just born a few

months before me. >> you asked ireporters to help visualize what 7 billion would look like. what did they send you in. >> these are great ways to visualize that number. let me show you first some of our international contributions from ireporters. this is what we got from the philippines. a single grain of rice represents one person. that was added into a cup of rice, five cups makes up a kilogram of rice and to get to 7 billion grains of rice, you'd need almost 440,000 pounds of rice. to get to 7 billion. over in santiago, chile, one figured out that taking 7 billion steps would take him around the planet 133 times, which would take 152 years. and finally, take a look at this. out of chicago.

a seventh grade class decided to run laps around the building to help visualize 7 billion. the class figured out if two students ran arndt the building at a certain speed for 7 billion seconds, it would take them 132 million laps, 217 years to complete the journey. these are ways that ireporters have helped us visualize it. just head to cnn.ireport. >> whether it's rice or running laps, that's a huge, huge number. thank you. all very fascinating. all year, we've been sbre introducing you to folks changing the world. i'd like you to meet one of this year's top ten. hospitals in indonesia, they often keep newborns from their mothers until they can pay for the delivery. robin limb gives free prenatal care, birthing services, medical aid to anyone who needs it. and she's joining us via skype

from bali. robin, first of all, congratulations to the amazing work you do. one of our top ten cnn heroes. tell us first about your work, these birthing clinics and what inspired you to open them in the first place. >> thank you. i had my fifth child here in bali and during that time, i discovered talking to other pregnant women, visiting with health providers, that it wasn't really an easy time for anyone on this island and even more so on other islands in indonesia who was having a baby and that was 18 years ago. and up until now, i've been working very diligently to make it better for mothers and babies and families at the time they're having babies. >> what kind of progress has been made? obviously, you're doing very important work for the women there. >> well, i think that one of the other things that has happened

at the clinics is that we have popularized the idea of a kind, r gentle, clean, hygienic midwife to mother care model of birth that is not only life saving, but also is culturally appropriate. these women, the integrity they deserve at the time they are going to their prenatal visits and having their babies and during post partum as well. >> what do you hope this award will do for the clinics that you operate? >> i see it as a huge step forour clinics. we have a clinic in the tsunami relief clinic that is still open. the conditions there in from the 2004 tsunami are still very critical. of course, for both clinics we offer aid here in bali, it's very important financially, this

award. already has been very beneficial, but in the bigger picture, i really worry about the 981 mothers that dies every single day on earth from complications of pregnancy and childbirth and 21,000 infants die under the age of 5 every day. i'm really concerned with those goals, for concerning child mortality, five maternal health and then six being the prevention of diseases like malaria and hiv aids. those are what the organization that i've dedicated my life to are really concerned with and we've taken a step by step approach, you know, one mother, one baby. >> well, thank you so much. just really congratulations already for the incredible work that you do. i'm going to go to cnnheroes.com now online and on your mobile device to votefor the cnn hero that inspires you the most.

all ten will be honored live by anderson cooper sunday, december 11th. so, let's say you fall in love, say your vow, but a year, five years, ten maybe, you want a divorce. what if the government forced you to wait a year? >> it's not something you, oh, yeah, i think i'll go get a divorce today. no. you've been thinking about it more than a year already. >> i do think people give up more easily sometimes, but i think it's a personal issue. >> my next guest is propose states adopt a one-year waiting period. but first, did you know most states already require you to wait before you can break it off anywhere from a month to two years, but it's a different story in europe. can you guess how long the usual waiting period is? that answer in just a minute. with arthritis pain. hes

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people in western europe have to wait before they get a divorce? the answer, three years. many of those countries have high rates of people choosing just to live together and not get married as well, so just ahead on the run down, retired chief justice in georgia wants all troubled couples to wait a year before being allowed to divorce. we're going to ask her why. then, the michael jackson death trial resumes. attorneys are close to wrapping up the case and herman cain is clarifying his remarks on abortion. let's get back to this story. say you get married, doesn't work out well. you want a divorce, but the judge forces you into a cooling off period. remember the movie what happens in vegas? >> what's mine is yours, baby. we're married now, remember? >> i am freezing the $3 million and sentencing you two to six months hard marriage.

>> objection! >> in the end, the waiting period, it worked out fine in this movie, but what about in real life? my next guest is proposing a one-year waiting period before you can get a divorce. she's calling this proposal second chances. justice leah ward seres is a retired chief justice. i'm glad you laughed when you saw that. >> i love a good movie. >> what is behipd this proposal? why this cooling off period? >> well, professor bill daugherty in talking to a judge in minnesota, professor daugherty is a family therapist in minnesota was asked by a judge, do some couples really want to reconcile and he did a study of 2500 people and he found that 40% of the people who filed for divorce either one or

both parties really wanted to reconcile, which sort of undercut the myth that most people that were already filing for divorce were so unhappy and so entrenched an the marriage was already over. >> right. >> and so the idea behind the second chances act, this model act would be that we would give those people, people who really wanted to consider reconciling, a chance to do so. which doesn't happen these days. >> what about the folks who are like, we know this isn't working out so well. why do we think the government would have any better idea than oh, this marriage is going to work out. >> marriages with children, and when divorces happen with marriages with children, it has a profound effect on all the rest of us. including the government. there was a study done a few years ago by professor ben skrafity that shows the cost to the united states government including states is a $112

billion a year conservatively for those who just choose to have divorces. everyone wants to exercise the right to divorce, but nobody recognizes the devastation. >> just to be clear, thises a proposal. this is something lawmakers would have to vote on. each particular state to make it, to turn it into law. how are people then responding to your proposal here? >> very enthusiastically. this is a very modest proposal. it's not in any way an attempt to roll back no fault. it's not an attempt to go back to the battle bays of the '40s and '50s where many who needed to get divorced, could not get divorced without a lot of pain and suffering. we don't want to -- >> let's talk about that. because clearly, there has to be some language in this proposal if you're in an abusive relationship in any way to end

it quickly. >> and you need to. as i said, it is a modest proposal. some marriages need to end and they need to end today. but most marriages, we are finding, there is some room for discussion, perhaps a need for some cooling off. a need for some educational services. and an attempt to talk reconciliation if that's not possible, but this is not an attempt as if by a judge in a movie, to force people who do not want to stay married. >> this was such a popular topic this morning. got a lot of people talking about their own relationships, marriages and divorces. i guess the question is, why not make it harder to get married than easier to get divorced. >> that is excellent and for those people on your production team who thought that was a good idea, it should with harder. we should have more education up

front about what marriage means. people do need to understand the skills needed to get married and stay married. very few people have those skills coming into a marriage. but it's also should be hard to get out of a marriage. it shouldn't be like you can in georgia, 30 days after 30 years, then you can just walk out of a marriage regardless of what the consequences are. >> judge, thank you very much. got a lot of people thinking about their relationships today. >> thank you. star witness for the defense goes back on the stand minutes from now in the michael jackson death trial. i'm going to talk to a criminal defense attorney about how the case against dr. conrad murray is shaping up as it's winding down. designed bottom up? integrated top down. customizable. well, duh. o compromises. no multiplelatforms gt?ett. good. new pro elite from eade. investing unleashed. consumers er wanchai ferry orange chicken... over p.f. chang's home menu orange chicken women

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court will resume shortly in the michael jackson death trial. lawyers for dr. murray could wrap up the case today after

testimony from their star witness, steven white. richard herman is here. richard, nice to see you in person here. >> finally. >> yes, absolutely. so, the prosecution says that it is the doctor who actually gave the fatal dose of propofol and that it was negligence that michael jackson died. the defense is saying that's not the case, that michael jackson gave that fatal dose. have they provided the kind of evidence needed to make that argument? >> i think what they've provided is an alter yor explanation in contrast to the prosecution. we've heard dr. murray is a womanizer, that he was wreckless. didn't care. all he cared about was money. and now, we hear another side. we hear the defense case. we hear he was a hard working guy, that he saved lives, that he was not driven by money and that the amount of propofol that dr. murray says he delivered

could not have killed michael jackson. so, if the jury's getting confused and you've got to be they're getting confused at this point in time. when chernoff stands up and says, if you are confused, if you're not sure, 25 milligram, 100 milligram, if you're not sure, then you must acquit. if they haven't proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt, you must acquit dr. murray. >> what have they done in portraying the doctor as a reasonable and caring guy? >> we saw compelling testimony two days ago by some of his patients and we see how hard working the guy was. he did save lives. he does not medicine. he does know cardiology. his motivation had to be the keep michael jackson alive. he gets $150,000 a month if he keeps him alive. so by dying, that wasn't in his

best interest. i think you're going to hear dr. white finish his testimony today. the prosecution will cross examine on monday. they have the weekend to prepare and maybe some witnesses. by midweek, the case should go to the jury. >> the family now, the jackson family, sitting in the front row in the courtroom. how could that impact how the jurors feel about this? >> i think some of the jurors could be stealth jurors. they're for michael jackson no matter what, but i think there are a handful of jurors who are going to look at the evidence. look at the fact that michael jackson was addicted to at least demerol and other painkillers and opiates and say we're just not going to pin it on dr. murray. we're going to say michael jackson, you're responsible for yourself, for your own condition an those family members in the front row, they watched him deteriorate the last 30 years.

what did they do to help their brother, to help this man in a lot of pain? >> you think it could actually help the doctor, they're looking at them saying, you guys didn't do anything to help them? >> latoya gets interviewed and talks about conspiracy theorys. it's ridiculous. so that conrad murray would want in in any way to have michael jackson pass away. it's ridiculous. if you love michael jackson, you're going to want to go see dr. murray go down. you're going to go with an open mind, assess the evidence and if you're condition fused and that's what the defense is doing, they're building confusion. these are lay people. these are not lawyers. if they're confused, there's a jury instruction on that. you could see an acquittal here. >> all right, we're going to be following this closely. good to see you. if you're having a hard time getting rid of a few extra pounds, you're going to want to stay here. you'll meet a young woman who

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following a breaking news story here. this is out of greenville, south carolina. we are being told by a police chief there that there was -- there are six schools now that are on lockdown. there's a shootout that occurred

earlier in the morning, a gun battle. the shooter is still on the loose here. we don't have any information about injuries and what the extent of the damage is. but i want to go to some sound from the police chief who is giving us a little bit of information about what we know so far. >> i'd like to reiterate to our live viewers, we're standing on the grounds of your training facility. tell them about the officers that were here and how you were all able to respond so quickly. >> we had 30 officers in training. so within 1/2 mile. so we deployed them very quickly to be able to assist with the situation. so we have a lot of officers on the scene. >> that is just a bit of sound that we have from the police chief. so far what we know, this is out of greenville, south carolina, that there are six schools that are currently on lockdown. that there was some sort of gun battle that took place earlier this morning outside or close to one of those schools. and that the suspect, the shooter is still on the loose, and what we've just heard from that sound was there were at

least 30 officers involved potentially in this shootout, and this man hunt that is taking place once again. this is out of greenville, south carolina. we're going to try to get more infoion and bring thatould likee hillary clinton as the party's nominee next year instead of president obama. a new poll shows she would do better than the president against the field of republican candidates. our joe johns is live from the political desk in washington. so this is kind of an interesting what if, don't you think? there was some talk about it before that, you know, would they make a deal? would folks say, hey, you know, we should put you up as the nominee. how does clinton stack up against the republicans? >> hey, suzanne, this goes in the category of things that make you go hmm, but you've got to use your imagination. you imagine if hillary clinton decided to challenge the president for the democratic

nomination, when she says she has no interest in doing that. imagine if she were to win the nomination, the polling makes you think she would cruise into the white house. shows the secretary of state ahead of mitt romney, ahead of rick perry, ahead of herman cain, 56% to 34%. and, in fact, that poll shows hillary clinton would do better even than president obama himself in the same match-ups. the president is ahead of those guys too, but a smaller margin. ahead of romney, 46% to 43%, ahead of perry, 50% to 38%, ahead of cain, 49% to 37%. see what fun you can have with numbers. it is a moot point, of course, because hillary clinton says she's not running. >> and what about republican herman cain? he's making news here. he's trying to clarify his position on abortion. >> right, right. question of whether it's flip-flopping, he's actually being accused of some real acrobatics if you will on the issue of abortion.

it's gotten a lot of people really confused. he claims he's been quoted out of context, but he plainly has taken some contradictory positions as we've reported right here on cnn following his recent interview with piers morgan, which the campaign says may have been attributable to a lack of sleep. first he said he was pro-life, no exceptions, and then he said the choice would be up to the family. and now a campaign adviser says cain follows the same policy used by the george w. bush administration on abortion which said abortions should be allowed in instances of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is at stake. campaign says cain is working on overdrive and may slow downgoing forward just to make sure he's better rested, suzanne. >> okay. all right. joe, thanks. have a good weekend. >> you too. people are leaving thailand's capital by the thousands. flood waters are spreading across bangkok. tomorrow, the devastation could get even worse.

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people do that. they were supposed to have evacuated earlier, but we're seeing more and more people leave. this lady has told us that she has run out of money. she is afraid for the safety of her animals. these are her dogs. she's got a few rabbits there, and she's trying to get them to higher ground. starting to become very, very worried. that's what's happening in a lot of this area. we are seeing some of the elderly people also getting into the trucks the army has brought and jumping in there because their homes are inundated with water. and just take a look at this water here. now, this water right now is about calf high on me. but as you walk further into this neighborhood, and let me take a turn here. as you walk further into this neighborhood, just over there, you'll see a home, it's green and blue, the water is inching ever closer to the window level. it is about up to my hips here. so very, very high water. that doesn't seem to be receding much here. this water has come and flown in partly from a canal that's

overflowed. the government is very concerned, of course, also about central bangkok. we were in central bangkok today, we were in china town, we did see when the morning high tide happened. we saw water coming in to china town, which is right there in the middle of bangkok, but then the water quickly receded. it seems that the drainage system seemed to be working quite well. and so the middle of bangkok and some of the business district has been pretty dry over the past day. but there is another big concern. and that is there is another high tide, the highest tide is coming within the next 24 hours. and people are bracing for that. the government now opening nine evacuation centers so that people have somewhere to go if the water gets too high. sara sidner, cnn, bangkok. top of the hour, i'm suzanne malveaux. i want to get you up to speed. occupy wall street demonstrators are taking their message where the money is. that is the banks. protesters plan to march on the

offices of five major banks today. now, they say they're going to deliver thousands of letters to top board members of bank of america, morgan stanley, wells fargo, citigroup, and jpmorgan chase. wall street ceo who says he's part of the 1% confronts the occupy protesters who say they represent the 99%. demonstrators argue that the wealthiest 1% of americans keeps getting richer while the other 99% struggle. a camera crew went to the park in new york to challenge them. >> you're in the 1%, and we're in the 99%. >> wouldn't you like to get into the 1%? you don't want more money? if i offered to put you in the 1% right now, you're going to push -- >> i would pay my share and get -- >> what's -- wait a minute. >> immediately! >> investors are taking a step back after yesterday's huge rally, the dow fell 25 points in early trading.

right now, it's fallen 14 points, but the big picture is encouraging. october now, shaping up to be the best month for s&p 500 since 1974. and the dow industrials up almost 1,300 points this month. in tunisia, anger, the country's election turns to violence now. supporters of the popular petition party attacked an office of the party that won. now, protesters were angry that some of their candidates who won seats were accused of violating campaign finance rules and were disqualified. well, the big winner was the moderate islamist party. rising water, high anxiety, that is in thailand. the next high tide could send flood waters pouring deep into the capital, bangkok, as you know. the outer suburbs are flooded. sara sidner tells us the system is already being put to the test. >> at one point this morning

after high tide came in, you could see water on nearly every single street leading in and out of china town. some of it about a foot high. some college students in maryland can already say that their ship has come in. how? okay. more than 200 students from st. mary's college in maryland are going to be living on a cruise ship because there's mold in their dorms. the sea voyager is expected to stay docked for the rest of the semester. classes are canceled today so the students can get onboard. the comeback cardinals forced the world series into a seventh game tonight to decide the championship. st. louis stunned the texas rangers last night winning 10-9. home run by david brees in the 11th inning gave the win. earlier tripled in the ninth to tie the game. the protesters are on the move, they plan to march through

the streets of new york in. in the next hour, they're headed to the offices of five major banks. they want to hand over letters to executives at places like bank of america and morgan stanley. we are live, sheila, it's been said time and time again that the protesters don't have hard and fast set of demands here. but taking on the banks certainly seems to be one of the big themes. what do these letters say? and do they make any demands? >> reporter: yes, suzanne, no list of demands, no list of demands really. but this seemingly leaderless group has lots of frustration. and the letters, nearly 7,000 of them, organizers say, are from people who are facing foreclosure, eviction, student debt, extended unemployment and they're coming together to express their feelings and deliver these letters to the banks who they hold responsible. now, one woman who will be reading her letter to chase ceo,

is mimi johnson of new york. she writes in part, i've submitted applications for mortgage modification more than a dozen times and i'm still waiting for a straight answer. every night i lay awake hoping you do not take my home before that happens. she goes on and invites mr. dimont to her home. >> over the last few days, we've seen peaceful protests turn ugly. we saw tuesday, protesters were throwing paint bottles at police, and they responded with tear gas. is there tension between police and demonstrators? >> reporter: there's no real tension at the moment, suzanne. but a move this morning by the new york fire department at the park where the occupiers have been camping out now for 42 days caught them offguard. four generators were removed, they told me. and many of them felt like it was a tactical move rather than

any real safety issue. and it's coming right before a real cold snap here. now the fire department on their part says that gasoline and propane are a fire hazard and against the law. street vendors use these genders, well, they have permits. >> and do we have any response from some of the banks about the letters that are going to be distributed to them? some of the messages from the occupiers, the protesters there in new york? >> not at this point. and it'll be interesting to see what their response will be. some of these letters are very personal and they would like responses to their situations. so we'll have to see. >> all right. sheila, thank you so much. we are following a breaking news story here. a shooter is on the loose. six schools on lockdown. that is out of greenville, south carolina. we're watching those pictures very closely. this is actually following a gun battle that took place between a police officer and a man being

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i want to go straight to an interview here, wyff, interviewing the police chief in greenville, south carolina. and this is where there are six schools that are on lockdown and potentially a shooter on the loose. let's take a listen. >> i want to point out to some of our viewers how interesting our location is. this is malden road. and back over here is the media staging area. this is actually the greenville police department's training facility. there were 30 plus officers here for a leadership training session. so when 1/2 mile around the block is actually the apartment where the officer was shot at. so as soon as that call came out for backup from the officer, there were 30 or more officers dispatched from this training

facility to begin the search for this shooter. so that was around 9:39 is what i'm hearing, jeff. this all started, the shooting happened at 9:39. i want to reiterate to anyone just joining us. a greenville police officer has not been shot. shot at, yes, but not actually hit by one of the bullets that was fired at from the shooter. >> all right. i want to go to a quick piece of sound here from the police chief actually describing that these -- the suspected gunman. let's listen in. >> reporter: he's a black male in his 30s, about 180 pounds. distinctive qualities she wanted to pass along. long hair, tied back, gray pants, and a gray shirt. that's who they're looking for. >> again, that is the reporter. he talked to the police chief describing how that -- the suspected shooter who is on the loose again, six schools on lockdown. this is out of greenville, south carolina. that developing breaking news story happening, and we'll get more details as they become available. the number of colleges charging $50,000 a year for

tuition is actually increasing. it's more than a lot of americans make in a year. our alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. it's pretty unbelievable. i remember going to school was about $15,000, now you've got $50,000 for tuition, how come it is that? >> oh, yeah, times have changed, suzanne. it's getting more and more common. almost like that $50,000 number is the magic number or something, now 123 colleges charge that $50,000 a year for tuition and fees. and this is really spiked over the past couple of years. you see in 2008, only five colleges cost that much, cost $50,000. so guess where the sticker shock is? who are the usual suspects? at columbia university, harvard, yale. this is also a phenomenon at the liberal arts school like new york, vassar, sara lawrence. and the kicker here is that it costs $50,000 is more than the average worker makes in a year. so, yeah, it's like you're

breaking the bank just to send your kids to college. >> that's why it's just such an overwhelming burden for a lot of folks. and we know the president announced -- he did announce some help, student loan help this week, there's education tax credits, that kind of thing. do we think that's really going to make a difference? >> it does make a difference, because the reality is, most students, they don't pay the full sticker price to go to college. an industry study shows that 88% of students who go to private colleges, they get scholarships. if you add up that scholarship money along with tax benefits, they get an extra $15,000. and also, the federal government is more and more handing out grants. but the fact remains, that $50,000 a year figure is one that's really tough to swallow when you see incomes remaining stagnant or even going lower these days. >> alison, we did have good news, yesterday we saw a huge market rally that was very exciting for a lot of people. what do things look like today? >> it looks like investors are taking a bit of a breather today. we've got stocks pretty much at the flat line right now.

literally, the dow, nasdaq, and s&p. started taking a breather after the big run-up yesterday. but the s&p 500, it's having its best month since 1974. not bad especially since many 401(k)s track that s&p 500. so it just may be safe to look at your portfolio today. suzanne? >> all right. thanks, have a good weekend. >> okay. bernie madoff's victims, they're fuming over the latest round of interviews with madoff, his wife, daughter-in-law, the victims say they feel that the public is being conned. every time one of the madoffs actually speaks. >> i think anything that comes out of their mouth is self-serving and are lies. >> reporter: richard and cynthia friedman lost their life savings to bernie madoff, so did eileen's parents. so when they heard ruth madoff talk about a failed suicide attempt in a new 60 minutes interview -- >> i don't know whose idea it was.

but we decided to kill ourselves because it was so horrendous what was happening. we had terrible phone calls, hate mail. >> do you believe it? >> i don't believe it. if it's a madoff, you cannot trust anything they say. >> assuming she's telling the truth about taking pills, do you feel badly about that? >> i just can't assume it. i think anything that they say is extremely self-serving. ruth has been quoted in the past as saying that she's very concerned about the victims and she feels awful and feels terribly. well, why would you open the wound three years later? >> victims scoff at barbara walters' description -- he says he's happy in prison because he feels safe there. >> for 16 years, he has lived in fear that he was going to be found out and now he's not in control of his life. and so he is happier there than he was on the outside. >> i was very much against

sending him to a maximum security prison because i felt that would be revenge and not justice. but he's really just snubbing his nose at the system. he's snubbing his nose at us. >> then there's stephanie madoff whose husband mark committed suicide last year, depressed over his father's crime. >> if i saw bernie madoff right now, i would tell him that i hold him fully responsible for killing my husband. and i'd spit in his face. >> so every time you hear an interview, every time you read an article, involving an interview, what goes through your mind. >> i get a visceral reaction, i really feel sick to my stomach. >> i wish we could get that kind of publicity so people understand who the victims are. they're everyday people. >> you're hearing people ask them a lot of questions. do you have any questions that remain in your mind that you'd like to ask them? >> if i knew that bernie madoff

would actually tell the truth for a change, i would say why? how? and who helped you? >> for victims, there are many questions they feel will never be fully answered. prosecutors have not charged madoff's children nor his wife. she's lived in a borrowed home in south florida. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. president bush called it the soft bigotry of low expectations thinking that minority children won't do as well as others. now some african-americans are trying to raise the bar. and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. from free checking to credit cards to loans, our commitment to the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. ♪ visit us online to learn what makes our bank so different. usaa. we know what it means to serve.

following a story out of greenville, south carolina, where six schools, two of them

colleges on lockdown now after a shootout, a gun battle between police and a man who was pulled over in a vehicle. i want to go directly to sound from the police chief to give us an update of what's taking place there. >> i put the description out, it's a black male with gray shirt, gray pants, between the ages of 30 to 35, very long hair pulled back in a ponytail. our officers not hit, no one's hurt at this time, which we're very thankful for that and we're basically doing a search trying to find the individual. we have canine on the scene, about four of them that are tracking. we have the greenville county sheriff's department helping us, we have sled and highway patrol that's helping us. we have officers throughout the area in kilo occasions so that if the individual tries to get out of the area we've secured, we'll be able to see the individual very quickly. >> an all out effort there in greenville, south carolina. six schools on lockdown as they

try to search and find a gunman on the loose after a shootout with police. so parents want the best education for their children, right? but some say that minorities are suffering because educators have low expectations of their kids. well, in this week's "what matters" segment, we look at why this is a problem that's facing the african-american community. >> you read the first page and nate reads the next. >> eric and shawna want to give their children a bright future. >> you can go anywhere with knowledge, so for us, that was very important that the school had high standards and the teachers were excellent. >> but the schools in their area did not meet their expectations. so they looked for other options. >> i don't care if it's a traditional public school, a charter school, a private school, home school, whatever it takes to educate our children because they are our future. that's what matters. >> reporter: but not every parent has the luxury of

choosing what school their child will attend. and not every school district has high standards for their students. >> what grade are we in? >> second! >> fantastic. >> reporter: president bush referred to it as the soft bigotry of low expectations. >> i firmly believe if you have low expectations, you'll achieve them. >> reporter: but the problem still exists today. >> the achievement gap data show us a huge problem exists. >> reporter: with the department of education. >> president bush called it the soft bigotry of low expectations, the truth is, it's not so soft. if we don't believe that students can learn at the highest levels, we don't teach them to the highest levels. and i have been stumped that i've talked to so many african-american teachers that often have lower expectations for their students than some of their white peers do. >> i cannot hear you. >> cnn education contributor

steve perry believes that tough love and discipline will help a child succeed. >> it'll be all boys. there's nothing that anyone can say about me that would ever question how much i love my kids and how willing i am to go to war for them, even if it means going to war against them. >> tell me what's been going on? >> reporter: admittedly, the obama administration's approach is about holding teachers accountable. >> is that a new approach from this administration? looking at it in that way? >> i wouldn't call it new. we are devoting more attention, i think, than ever before to the opportunity gap. because research is clear that if you don't have a strong teacher in the front of your classroom, chances are you're not going to learn as much as your peers do. >> reporter: the roachfords are raising the bar too, hoping it will pay off in the end. >> yeah, he can't go into the building, why? >> for me, that's our future. and we have to do whatever it takes to make sure that they get the proper education.

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we're checking our "time's" top ten protest movements. the vietnam war protest is on the list. more than 500,000 demonstrators went to washington in 1969 in the largest protest in the nation's history. the war went on for six more years. and the oldest american protest movement, that is the boston tea party. 1773. colonists wanted to be represented in british government. next, what should be done

with moammar gadhafi's killer? then in about ten minutes, a really cool story about the new nasa satellite. it just launched today. we're going to show you what it's actually going to be tracking. and just before the end of the show, we've got a special treat, nancy grace. got some burning questions about "dancing with the stars." plus, we also want to know what she thinks of the conrad murray trial. moammar gadhafi's fugitive son saif gadhafi is in talks with the international criminal court. he's wanted for crimes against humanity, he wants to surrender to the icc. meanwhile in libya, the question for the new government is who killed gadhafi? and what should be done to the killer. our dan rivers reports from tripoli. >> reporter: ever since these disturbing images emerged on the day gadhafi was killed, questions have loomed about exactly what happened. he was not, in fact, killed in the cross-fire of a gun battle

as the ntc claimed. especially since this video surfaced of a young man claiming to have shot him in the head with another insisting he witnessed the murder. now, amid growing international pressure, the transitional government said it will prosecute the man responsible if it can prove his guilt. >> what's going to happen to that young man? >> well, we'll ask him. there's an investigation. there's an investigation -- if we found this story is true. so the ntc is going to take an action against him. there's an investigation. we would like to know who and why and how. >> but in the cafes of misrata, there seems little sympathy with putting gadhafi's killer on trial. >> no, no, no, i don't think he should be on trial. in this revolution, we asked for gadhafi -- we hoped we catch him alive, but if he's dead, that's

okay. that man killed hundreds of people in this area. and we're relieved he's dead. that's all. and the man who killed him should let him free or something, i don't care about him. >> gadhafi is a criminal. big criminal and terrorist. so why do we do this? even like me, if i had a shot, i would kill him. >> you would do it? >> i would do it. >> so for the young man that killed him, what do you think should happen to him? >> nothing. >> nothing? >> nothing. >> i'm glad gadhafi's dead. everybody glad. >> reporter: and that's the problem. the transitional government is under a lot of international pressure to properly investigate gadhafi's death. but domestically, there's very little appetite to put a libyan on trial for killing a man who so terrorized this country. dan rivers, cnn, tripoli. well, it looks like mission

accomplished for nato forces in libya. their military operations are going to end on monday. our ben wedeman is back in the united states after incredible reporting on the civil war. ben, good to see you in american, glad you're safe, as well. you're doing an excellent job. the u.n. security council voted unanimously that they were no longer going to authorize this military action inside of libya. is this the right time? is it a good idea? are the libyans ready? >> the fact of the matter is that the nato air cover was for going after libyan forces that were threatening the civilian population. >> sure. >> the libyan army of moammar gadhafi is gone. there's not much in the way of targets that anybody could hit. so i think that there's not a presence on the ground there. i don't think it's going to make much difference. >> ben, what do you think will be the greatest challenge for the libyans going forward? >> establishing law and order and creating a government, whether it's democratic or otherwise. what we've seen is this was a

revolt that was begun by civilians, lawyers and human rights activists. but as it went from being a civil disobedience campaign to an open war, the men with the guns took over. and it may be very difficult to convince them that politics does not involve wes. >> what do you make of this report that saif gadhafi has actually in some sort of talks with the international criminal court. is that a good indication of all gadhafi's supporters, family members are all out of power and can't make more mischief? >> well, i think the family itself out of the picture, yes. i think there's no question about it, but you'll have to keep in mind that there have been excesses by the -- what we used to call the rebels, in places like sirte, and other places, as well. and there may grow an opposition movement and armed opposition movement that isn't necessarily

loyal to gadhafi but feels they're getting a raw deal from the new regime there. and i think that's the real threat in libya. >> now, bringing a little bit closer to home. there are some people who actually are saying that this arab spring is really an inspiration for what we're seeing across the city's occupy wall street movements. i want to roll a little piece of tape here and get our viewers to see this. >> reporter: in terms of scale, there really isn't any comparison. hundreds of thousands of people crammed into tahrir square for 18 days bringing down the regime of hosni mubarak. here in new york, all you have to do is go one block up and you wouldn't know anything was going on. >> who is that handsome guy? you make a point. there are stark differences, similarities, how do you compare this having covered what we saw in libya and egypt and in the country now? >> you know, in the case of egypt, we have to keep in mind that the revolution that began

on the 25th of january there didn't come out of a vacuum. the activists there worked for years and years, organizing, making contact, not necessarily preparing for a revolution that would lead in 18 days to the overthrow of a regime that was in power for 30 years. but they really did their homework. my impression of occupy wall street is there are many reasons why americans should be unhappy with the political system, with the financial system, but they haven't done their homework. in terms of really making the connections with the labor movement, with student groups. it really does look like it's been thrown up pretty quickly and already you're seeing around the fringes of zucati park all sorts of basically lunatics that realize there's a lot of attention there and have come to sort of get a piece of the action. i think as one egyptian activist

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all right. so i showed you number four and number five. so what are the three worst airports in the country when it comes to flight delays? at number three, san francisco international airport. in the second spot,

baltimore/washington international, bwi, and the airport with the most delays, chicago midway. not a surprise on any of these. well, a new nasa satellite heading into orbit high above the earth that's going to give nasa a better idea of what's going on with the weather. chad myers, what's going on with the new satellite? what does it do? >> it is so much -- it's like taking your old black and white tv you had in your room when you were a kid and replacing it with a 1080p high-definition monitor. the resolution that this image will come from space now will be so unbelievable. it took off this morning from california, it was a great launch, everything's good, it's a go right now, 512 miles up in space. when they finally get it all kind of unveiled, this is what it's going to look like. there are five. you said a new eye in the sky. with this one, they kind of saved money, they put five eyes in the sky. five different sensors and lenses looking for different things.

looking for ozone, maybe a lack of ice, looking for all kinds of other things that could possibly go good or go wrong with the climate or the weather. the visible, obviously, they want to take pictures almost to make it look like it's a visible picture and infrared and even radiant energy. they want to know whether the earth is getting warmer or colder. and for some of you in the northeast, it will appear to be getting colder this weekend because a low pressure system almost a nor'easter will be heading up the east coast. so i don't know if this satellite will be up and running by then. but for you in the northeast, it's low pressure, rain in atlanta today. but that white, there it is. when i was a kid in buffalo, we always had to put our costumes on with big coats on top. you could never tell what we were. this is like what it was when we were kids. >> a lot of trick-or-treaters out there bundled up, huh? >> trudging through snow. maybe it'll be a trick. >> thanks, chad. >> you're welcome. well, the end of a high-speed chase usually comes with, right, a crash, police

officers wrestling the suspect to the ground. in in ohio, this suspect surrendered completely differently. but first, free money advice from the cnn help desk. it's time now for the help desk where we get answers to your financial questions. joining me now the founder of the financial advice blog ask the money coach. and david novik, a professor at nyu. thank you for being here both. i appreciate it. lynette, your question comes from gina in ohio. gina has 28 credit cards, 18 with no balance, and she's asking if her credit score's going to be affected if she closes the account. first things first, you never want to open up 28 credit cards, right? >> obviously that can lead to unmanageable debt. a problem i knew about it from a decade ago. but typically i tell people not to close out accounts. if they have three or four accounts because it can mess up something called your credit utilization ratio, the amount of debt you've charged versus to your available credit lines. in her case, she has over two dozen credit cards, so it's

probably not going to impact her too much to go ahead and close out some of those cards, reduce the temptation and also, frankly to possibly avoid any annual fees she might be getting charged for the use of those cards. >> david, you question from william in new york. william writes that his unmarried partner and he are going to relocate. they're going to move to california. his partner receives unemployment benefits in new york. the question is, will his partner be able to continue to receive those benefits in california until he's employed? >> he would be able to receive benefits in california. he will need to register and check in with the unemployment office in california. different states have different rules. so the benefit may be different. and there may be a delay in getting him up and running again as far as benefits. he should be prepared to have an interruption in his benefits. >> sure. >> additionally, if he's going to be traveling to california, you have to be available and ready and willing to work. so during that time that he's transporting himself to california, he may not be

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but a driver in ohio made sure the cops knew she had nothing to hide. jeannie moos has more. >> reporter: please step out of the car, miss. oops, this miss was missing most of her clothes. >> we clocked the vehicle going 110 miles an hour. >> reporter: the 28-year-old may have been half naked, but she was allegedly going full speed, as fast as 128 before stop sticks thrown on the road disabled her tires. >> step out of the vehicle! step out of the vehicle! >> reporter: oh, she stepped out all right. stepped out wearing a white thong and some sort of see through fish netty thing. she also sports lots of tattoos, which we noticed when she literally kicked up a rukus in the backseat of the cruiser. we did find a naked motorcycle rider pulled over for drunken

driving in florida. >> i asked what happened to his clothing and he said he lost it. >> reporter: we wanted to ask erin holdsworth what happened to her clothing, but when we got someone we think was her on the phone, she told us to call her lawyer. a 7-mile high-speed chase with a half-naked driver even landed her on automotive blogs. the bad news for holdsworth is she's been charged with driving while impaired, speeding, reckless driving, et cetera. the only good news is, that admirers seem smitten with the racy speed demon. was she charged with theft, as well? because she's stolen my heart. were you convicted? because you got fine written all over you. >> in 26 years working as a police officer, i don't ever recall having a subject in such a state of undress. >> reporter: early reports indicated she was wearing high heels, but that was a product of wishful thinking because those are clearly sneakers. at least she didn't get charged

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well, you've seen her moves on "dancing with the stars," but hln host nancy grace has got a lot to say about a lot of court cases and trials. michael jackson's doctor, conrad murray, being one of them. nancy grace's joining us from l.a. before we get to your dancing skills because i love to ask about that stuff. let's talk about the court cases you've been following. first of all, conrad murray -- >> okay.

>> -- michael jackson's doctor. which way do we think this is working for him? has the defense been doing a good job of trying to pin the death of michael jackson on jackson himself or the doctor? >> well, they've been trying very hard to do just that. to make it look as if michael jackson self-administered a fatal dose of propofol. but i always go back to what i've got in my hand is about 50 pages of autopsy report that clearly states michael jackson did not self-administer. that it would have been virtually impossible. suzanne, he was injected in his knee, his body was covered in track marks. he practically had no usable veins left. any doctor in their right mind would've noticed that. stunningly absent is any real feeling from the defense. we don't hear from conrad murray himself, which is probably wise. they put up one expert after the next. do you know what juries do with experts, right?

so it's been expert versus expert, and the only real feeling they got was from the police. and the investigators who came on for the state. the defense tried to make a comeback by bringing on good reputation witnesses to talk about what a great guy conrad murray is. one of them even kissed murray on the head in court which was totally inappropriate, did it work? i doubt it. >> what about this other case? we have this 10-month-old kansas city baby that's been missing. her name is lisa, and she's been gone since october 4th or so. what goes through your mind? as a mom when you hear that at nine days the mother doesn't speak, and then she admits she was drinking, you know, 5 to 10 glasses of wine the night this child disappeared. >> suzanne, suzanne, she didn't say she was just drinking, she said she was passed out drunk. blacked out. she was the only care giver in the home with an 8-year-old, a

5-year-old, and a 10-month-old baby. the front window, which i have observed myself to be about 4 1/2 feet off the ground, you'd have to be a high-jumper from the olympics to get through that thing. in the front of the house, suzanne, is apparently the entry point. all the cell phones were taken from the home, very unusual. the lights left on. and today, we've been able to confirm that even though the parents state their cell phones were stolen and they had forgotten to pay the bill and could not make an outgoing call, we confirmed today that a minute-long call was made in the hours from the stolen phone after baby lisa goes missing. i'm very disturbed that the parents aren't speaking to police separately and not allowing their boys to speak to police. >> i know you brought your dance partner tristan. 12 couples, six left, are you feeling more confident you can win this thing? >> well, you know what?

i felt very confident until last night about 9:00 when we were still rehearsing, lucy was crying at home for mommy, john david was asleep, and this one was giving me new dance steps to learn. can you explain yourself, tristan? >> no. we're doing great. the competition gets harder, so everything needs to get harder. >> and last week you said you were bringing sexy back. what's your next dance going to be? >> well, i'm trying to get him to be sexy on the dance floor. i mean, look at that? what could be more sexy than me in a damsel in distress outfit? but i've got to say, though, as much as i rib tristan, he's the one that got the nine. i'm the one that got the seven. he's really dragging me through. >> we're rooting for you both. >> almost as good as christian. thank you. >> we're rooting for you both,

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most of you use plastic bags every day. guinness world record says there's no other consumer product used more. there are trillions of them. but our own amber lyon found out many end up in trees, streets, and oceans. >> reporter: dawn, off the coast of california. >> normally when you're on boats like this, you're out looking for dolphin or fish, but today, it's grocery bags. we're fishing for plastic bags. >> reporter: my fishing partner has a ph.d. in science

education. plastic and nature meet, look. erickson studies the amount and impact of plastic debris in the ocean. after successfully fishing the surface, we wondered what might be below. out here the water looks very clear, but you never know what's lying underneath. the bags we found do more than just litter the ocean floor. this is the marine mammal center. the staff and volunteers rescue and rehabilitate sick and injured animals. >> he's not very responsive, and he'll get an initial assessment. >> reporter: this is the director of veterinary science. >> whales, sea lions, dolphins, in my personal experience, i've seen all three of those animals with bags on them. >> could it kill the animal?

>> it could. it could. but i think the bigger concern is the unseen effects of these materials. >> as the plastic bags migrate out to the deep ocean, they fragment very quickly. so one plastic bag can turn into 10,000 particles the size of fish food. >> reporter: erickson has traveled to locations where rotating currents have trapped debris, sometimes creating what's described as an enormous plastic soup. some claim the garbage patch in the pacific ocean is the size of texas, but nobody really knows. >> we collected this debris -- there are few recognizable items in here. there's a pen cap, two pen caps. if you look carefully right there, it's a toy gorilla. as far from land as you can get on the planet, we found evidence of our trash. >> and they found the remnant of a plastic bag. >> here is a plastic bag that's been knotted. evidence