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wife, diana. you might say, that's kind of an unusual pair, considering that cantor has often been a thorn in the side of the white house. but the two, according to democratic and republican sources, developed genuine affection for each other this year, working on deficit reduction. kila? >> brianna keilar at the white house, thanks so much. we'll be back here bright and early tomorrow morning. >> have a great day, we've got a busy afternoon because you've had a busy morning, so you're just passing on the baton. let's get you up to speed for this wednesday, november 2nd. we begin with an eye on your money and investments after two days of sharp losses, stocks are on the rebound. the dow jumped 162 points in early trading. right now it's up around 208 points. a good sign there. the markets are getting a boost from a better-than-expected report on jobs. payroll processor, adp, says the private sector added 110,000 jobs in october.
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and president obama makes a new push for money to fix the nation's roads and bridges in a speech this hour. he'll call on congress to pass the transportation component of his jobs bill. which includes money for infrastructure. the president will use a bridge in washington's georgetown area as a backdrop and we'll take you there live. the speech is set for 11:25 eastern time. and we have new pictures today of a jetliner's dramatic emergency landing in poland. earlier video showed it from a side angle. here, you can see the plane coming in, with no landing gear at all. somehow the pilot manages to steer it onto the runway on its belly. no one on the flight from newark, new jersey to warsaw was injured. one of the presidential candidates, herman cain's accusers may speak out about her allegations of sexual harassment. her attorney says the key is getting the national restaurant
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association, where the complaint was filed, to waive a confidentiality agreement. >> that would be the right thing to do, so that she can tell her side of the story. since mr. cain is telling his side of the story. and if they, if they agree to that, then i will confer with my client again and see what she wants to do. ultimately, it's up to her. >> cain insists he never sexually harassed anyone. he says it's a political attack against his campaign. >> there are factions that are trying to destroy me, personally, as well as this campaign. but there is a force greater, there's a force at work here that is much greater than those that would try to destroy me. and destroy this campaign, and this journey to the white house. and that force is called the voice of the people. that's why we're doing as well as we are in this campaign thus far.
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y'all are supposed to applaud. [ applause ] >> occupy oakland activists are taking their protests to another level. they're calling for a general strike today, to shut down the city. instead of going to work, they're urging people to converge on downtown. after the strike, the demonstrators plan a protest at oakland's port. and wikileaks founder, julian assange, is a step closer to being extradited to sweden for questioning on sexual assault accusations. a an appeals court in london rejected assange's argument on extraditi extradition. assange denies he sexually assaulted two women in sweden. what happened to $600 million of customers' money at the brokerage firm, mf global? that's what the fbi and federal regulators are investigating. mf global is led by former new jersey governor and goldman
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sachs ceo, jon corzine. the firm declared bankruptcy this week after losing a bundle through bad deals on european debt. and former secretary of state, condoleezza rice is speaking out about a presidential poison scare. rice said it happened a few weeks after the 9/11 attacks when the country was on edge and the white house on alert. in an abc interview, rice says she was on a trip to china with president bush when she got a secure video conference call from the white house. >> the vice president came on the screen and said that the white house detectors had detected botulism toxin and those of us who were exposed were going to die. >> he said that? >> yes, he said that. and i remember everybody just sort of freezing and the president saying, what was that? what was that, dick? >> including the president? >> including the president. because the exposure time would have meant that we were all exposed. >> rice says they spent 24 hours in shanghai waiting for test results from the cdc before they
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learned it was a false alarm. she writes about the incident in her new memoir. here's a chance it talk back on one of the big stories of the day. today's question -- do weddings trump marriage? carol costello joins us now from new york. oh, let me guess, what's the impetus of this topic? >> i was just going to say, maybe it's not a big story but it certainly is an interesting story. i can't even believe i'm talking about it, but for some reason i'm intrigue by this. kim kardashian, the reality show bride, the flowers, the dress, the 20-karat ring, so beautiful and so oval. kim kardashian's multimillion-dollar rating drew huge ratings, with kim filing for divorce after only 72 days. some speculate it was all a hoax. same-sex marriage advocates are having a field day. have you seen this from the facebook page of the national organization for marriage equality. it says, if you think gay
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marriage cheapens the institution -- two words, kim kardashian. that aside, let's face it, we're not just a celebrity-assessed culture. we're a wedding-obsessed culture. at least when it comes to the theater of marriage. when it comes to the actual marriage, do we walk the walk? according to a pew research center survey, only about one-fourth of 20-somethings are married, down from about two-thirds in 1960 and about half of all marriages split up. why? psychologists say the kardashian wedding spectacle pretty much sums it up, narcissism. the cultural fascination of weddings feeds into the me, not the we culture. as a psychologist says the weddings is on the one hand, a healthy way of making a public commitment to each other. but it preps like a cancer where the focus is on the show, and not the long-term or reality of the relationship. so, talk back today, do weddings
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trump marriage? facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your responses later this hour. >> oh, my goodness. people thought they were done talking about that kardashian wedding. now it's going to start all over again. carol, thanks so much. here's a rundown of some stories straight ahead. president barack obama heads to france today, but not before one last pitch for his jobs bill. his comments just minutes away. plus, four elderly men accused of plotting to blow up government buildings and use ricin to kill federal officials. then, all eyes on the economy, the global economy, world leaders gather in france to stave off a disaster. and one of the biggest pythons ever caught -- with an appetite to match. wait until you hear what it swallowed. whole. you made is so good. it's got tender white meat chicken. the way i always made it for you. one more thing.... those pj's you like, i bought you five new pairs. love you. did you see the hockey game last night?
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break the grip of pain with aspercreme. thousands of protesters are in the south of france as leaders of the world's most powerful countries prepare to meet in cannes. the so-called g-20 is coming together with the world economy on the brink of another downtun. alison kosik standing by in new york with more. i understand the g-20 summit is unofficially getting under way tonight and greece is the key topic. >> yeah, and that wasn't going to be the case, fred, president obama arrives late tonight, but the attention is going to be around 3:30 eastern, when german chancellor, angelale and french president, nicolas sarkozy walk in and they're followed by the greek prime minister, george pannen dray ewe. they're going to have a stern talking-to with him. because this whole greek bailout that was agreed to last week,
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this whole plan hinged on the fact that it was strengthening greece. it was bailing greece out. instead of the greek parliament accepting it, the prime minister announced he's putting it to a vote. he wants it to go to a national referendum. if you're the greek people who have asked to have government spending clawed back, they'll get shorter vacations, work longer hours, they're going to retire later, they're going to be paying more incox tax. many greeks don't pay incox tax. all of these things are going to happen, there's a good chance if put to a vote it's going to be rejected. if that's gets rejected. the whole euro bailout plan falls apart. europe could be push in addition a recession. and of course that means that the rest of us around the world, who are have tenuous economies could be pushed over as well. so this went from being a fairly technical meeting about global growth and coming together on it, into something very different. a lot of pressure now on the greeks to say -- don't put this to a referendum. if it goes to a referendum, it could be december or january.
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two more months of uncertainty. a lot of concerns about what this could do to the global economy. >> now merkel and nicolas sarkozy were pretty confident that greece would like this. but at what point did the prime minister say thumbs down to this. and the cabinet, his cabinet is backing him up on that. >> very strange situation. a lot of people are asking, why did the greeks turn this down? the entire bailout is menlt to help the greeks. but if you're greek, think about the impact of this. it sounds like it's meant to help you out. but it's awe tart to the nth degree. it's paring back and entitlements that you're to used to going away and there are some indications that it's not helping the greek economy. it may be good for all of europe. but if you're greek, you're saying, it doesn't feel good, it may not be good for my economy, why should i let this happen? why should i suffer so that the rest of europe can survive and thrive. there's some sense that is
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politically expedient and popular for the greek prime minister. whether he gets more votes or if the referendum happens. unclear as to why that's happened. it was highly unexpected, a big surprise and there's a lot of fear as you saw in the stock markets yesterday, that if greece rejects this, this can be very damaging for global economies. >> at what point will europe and other leaders of other countries, the u.s. included, say you know what -- just let greece do its thing and let it fall. >> well, i think you're going to have these meetings tonight. you're going to have sarkozy and merkel talking to pannen dray ewe. and obama talking to papandreau. on friday there's a vote in the greek parliament to see whether this thing goes through. if it goes through, if the referendum goes through, i think there's a real possibility that the world will say to greece, you know what, you might be on your own. maybe they get kicked out of the euro zone, who knows what happens, that could be damaging to greece. i don't think the world is going it wait two more months to figure this out.
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>> ali velshi, thanks so much. with all that going on, it's no surprise, we're seeing a lot of volatility in the markets today. european markets bounced around all day. asian exchange finished mixed. alison, now to you at the new york stock exchange, how are things looking on wall street? >> we are seeing a triple-digit move on the dow. but to the upsite. a triple-digit move here, a triple-digit move there. the volatility is back, but back in good way, what you see is the bargain hunters out. you can tell the bargain hunters are out, they're scooping up the shares that were beaten down in yesterday's plunge. those shares are on the top of the list today. what's happening to keeping the momentum going are a couple of positive jobs reports. one showing that layoffs slowed last month and another showing that the private sector added more jobs than expected. but don't be fooled by this rally, fredricka. the markets do have that eye on europe and those headlines coming out of europe will definitely be a market-mover today. as will the fed. the fed is coming out with its
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policy statement in about an hour and a half. the market will be watching and listening to what fed chief, ben bernanke has to say. especially in the policy statement and news conference. >> so what needs to be heard out of the g-20 summit to make sure that tomorrow we're also in the green territory? >> you know, the markets want to hear some sort of solid solution to the european debt crisis. they want to know if the european debt plan is going to happen. and will greece, france, the rest of the euro zone go along with it. that really is the big question that the markets really want answered. and it's clear, tensions are high, there's a lot of uncertainty. and it's not just greece that's in question. look at italy. italy is swimming in its own pool of debt. $2.5 trillion. and world leaders want to see some sort of commitment from italy as well. also i haven't even mentioned the u.s. did we forget the supercommittee? the supercommittee is looking to hammer out a debt-cutting plan by thanksgiving it try to find where $1.3 trillion can be cut.
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so sheer, we are seeing a rally today. but we've got a lot of factors weighing on the markets today. fredricka? >> alison kosik, thanks so much. president obama pushes for money to repair the nation's roads and bridges. we'll go live to washington as the president makes another appeal to congress just minutes from now. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. i was worried it would be hard to install.
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four elderly georgia men will appear in federal court a few hours if now, on charges of a home-grown terror case. prosecutors say they're part of a fringe militia group. they're accused of plotting to attack government officials with explosives and a deadly toxin. george howell is line outside the courthouse in gainesville,
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georgia. so, george, tell us more about these suspects and the attacks that they're accused of planning. >> fredricka, good morning. this group calls itself covert group. and investigators say while there's a lot of attention placed on international terrorism, they are just as focused on domestic, home-grown terrorism like this i've been reading through these affidavits that are part of a federal investigation. want to single out a quote from fret rick thomas, who is described as the leader of the group when talking about buying explosives, he said quote, we'd have to blow the whole building like timothy mcveigh. the information coming from confidential informants who told us that the group was planning to buy ammunition and explosives and they planned to produce a deadly toxin called ricin. it can be a pellet, powder, a spray, and if it gets on your skin or lungs, it's deadly. no cure. their plan was to put it on
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highways and let it spread on highways in atlanta and several other cities across the united states. but investigators said they made their arrests before these men could become a threat. >> he had some of the ingredients that were necessary, but not all of the ingreed yeths, and it's really important for the public to know and be assured that the fbi was on top of this and they were monitoring this every step of the way and these individuals were never at a point where they were actually able to carry this out without the fbi's knowledge. >> so within the next few hours, we're waiting to see frederick thomas, dan roberts, ray adams and sam crump make their first appearances in federal court. again these men in their 60s and 70s, they planned to target government officials, corporate leaders and even members of the media. and they were planning allegedly to target buildings in atlanta, the atf and irs buildings. fredricka? >> george, how was this plot uncovered?
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>> all along, investigators had confidential informants who were giving them information. and basically, when it got to the point where these men were planning to execute these attacks, that's when the fbi moved in. >> all right. george howell, thanks so much from gainesville, georgia. so the threat of small homegrown terrorist groups is always a huge concern for the government. let's bring in our national security contributor, fran townsend in new york, a member of the c.i.a. and department of homeland security adviser. as we get to details about the bust and the militia members planning to attack government officials with bomb, biotoxin, et cetera, does this indicate to you a real payoff from heightened effort to infiltrate suspected homegrown terrorists? >> fredricka, absolutely. i think when we're seeing now is the results of an investment in building the fbi. the fbi's funding over the last ten years has been increased. a number of agents on the street is increased.
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their capability and their membership in the intelligence community all pay off in this stort of an instance. that coupled with their relationship with state and local law enforcement is the best of what the fbi can do. we've seen increasingly, their use of these undercover informants to get into these plots to identify all of the individuals involved before they take it down and before these groups are able to actually act. >> so these four that were arrested, do you believe this is the tip of the iceberg of that group? >> because they were ynd cover informants in there and this plot unfolded over time, it's likely that the fbi worked the investigation to identify all of those that they believe were involved before they took it down. so i think you can probably rest assured that most of the people who were a threat, if not all, were scooped up and arrested at the same time. you know, these sort of domestic groups are the most difficult to detect. and the fbi and local law
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enforcement put tremendous resources into actually making these investigations and bringing them to the arrest stage. >> is there a feeling that investigators are focusing kind of on small town usa, that that's where the prevalence of this kind of planning may be taking place? >> you know, it's hard to say that. we've seen, i'm here as you said in new york, and we've seen these sorts of undercover operations, big operations here in new york, where the nypd and local law enforcement. so it's not particular to any one area, rural or urban. it's a concern nationally. >> all right, thanks so much. checking stories making news, cross-country now, a visual reminder of why you should never crash your car into a fire hydrant. this was the scene in san diego after this stolen car did just that. the high-pressured water lifted the vehicle ten feet in the air. and then on to texas, more wear
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nation's roads and bridges. let's listen in. >> farmers, they can lose five cents a bushel when a rural bridge closes. so all told, our aging transportation infrastructure costs american businesses and families about $130 billion a year. that's a tax on our business, that's a tax on our consumers. it is coming out of your pocket. it's a drag on our overall economy. and if we don't act now. it could cost america hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of jobs by the end of the decade. so you're paying already for these substandard bridges. you're paying for these substandard roads. you could be paying to make sure that workers who are rebuilding these roads and you would save money in the long-term if you did it i'm speaking to all the american people right now. [ applause ]
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building a world-class transportation system is one of the reasons that america became an economic superpower in the first place. today as a share of our economy, europe invests more than twice what we do in infrastructure. china, more than four times as. think about that. europe invests as a percentage of its overall economy, twice as much in roads and bridges and airports and ports, china, four times as much. how do we sit back and watch china and europe build the best bridges and high-speed railroads and gleaming new airports and we're doing nothing? at a time when we've got more than a million unemployed construction workers who could build them right here in america right now. [ applause ]
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we're better than that. we are smarter than that. we've just got to get folks in congress to share the same sense of national urgency that mayors and governors and the american people do all accost the country. now i've got to say, we've got some members of congress here who get it. amy kovalchar from minnesota, she gets it. she's seen a bridge fall apart her state. senator whitehouse from rhode island, he gets it, congressman larson gets it. i know the mayor of washington, d.c. gets it but we've got to have everybody on capitol hill get it. last month, republicans in the senate blocked a jobs bill that would have meant hundreds of thousands of private-sector construction jobs repairing bridges like this one. it was the kind of the idea that in the past at least, both
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parties have voted for, both parties have supported. it was supported by the overwhelming majority of the american people. it was paid for. and yet, they said no. the truth is, the only way we can attack our economic challenges on the scale that's needed is with bold action by congress. they hold the purse strings. it's the only way we're going to put hundreds of thousands of people back to work right now. not five years from now, not ten years from now, but right now. it's the only way that we're going to rebuild an economy that's not based on financial bubbles, but on hard work. on building and making things right here in the united states of america. [ applause ] that's the deal that every american is looking for. we have an economy where
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everybody who works hard has the chance to get ahead. where the middle class regains some sense of security. that has been slipping away for over a decade now. so that's why i'm going to keep on pushing these senators, and some members of the house of representati representatives, to vote on common-sense, paid for jobs proposals. in the meantime, while i'm waiting for them to act, we're going to go ahead and do what we can do to help the american people find jobs. we're not going to wait for them and do nothing. i've said that i'll do everything in my power to act on behalf of the american people. with or without congress. we can't wait for congress to do its job, if they won't act, i will.
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and that's why today i'm announcing that we are actually going to expedite loans and competitive grants for new projects all across the country that will create thousands of new jobs for workers like these. [ cheers and applause ] if there's money already in the pipeline, we want to get it out faster. and this comes on the heels of our recent efforts to cut red tape and launch several existing projects, faster and more efficient efficiently. see, construction workers want to do their jobs. we need congress to do theirs. and here's the good news. congress has another chance, they've already voted once against this thing. they've got another chance. this week, they've got another chance to vote for a jobs bill that will help private-sector companies put hundreds of thousands of construction workers back on the job, rebuilding our roads, airports,
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bridges and transit systems. and this bill, by the way, is one that will begin to reform the way we do projects like this. no more earmarks. no more bridges to nowhere. we're going it stop the picking of projects based on political ga gain, and start them based on two criteria, how badly they're needed and how much good they'll do for our economy. and by the way, that's an idea, that's an idea that came from the good work of a texas republican and a massachusetts democrat. because infrastructure shouldn't be a partisan issue. my secretary of transportation who is here, ray lahood, a great man from peoria. he's the pride of peoria, he spent a long time in congress, he's a republican. a member of my cabinet.
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he knows how badly we need to act on this issue. >> that's president barack obama at key bridge in washington, d.c. calling on congress to pass the transportation component of his jobs bill. meantime, go across a different bridge from washington to alexandria, virginia, and in the spotlight and perhaps now getting a little testy over the past sexual harassment allegations, republican candidate, herman cain was to talk about health care in alexandria. but instead, was invited by some questions that he did not necessarily welcome. jim acosta is in alexandria. and you were covering that event. describe what's going on. i guess it's getting a little hot in the kitchen? >> that's right. fredricka. that's an understatement. this was a nasty scene here at this hotel just across the river from washington and alexandria, virginia. herman cain was scheduled to speak to a group of conservative doctors. he gave that talk behind closed
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doors. the press was not allowed inside that chat with the doctors. and then after that conversation that he had with that group of doctors, he came out into sort of a lobby area of the hotel, a ballroom section of the hotel where he was obviously meted by a throng of reporters. i want to show you what the videotape looks like. because it really speaks for itself. we in the media try to asked mr. cain some questions about this ongoing situation with these women who were accusing mr. cain of sexual harassment. mr. cain was not in the mood to take those questions. and got very testy with reporters. there was also some pushing and shoving after that exchange. let's show you that tape right now. >> let me say one thing, i'm here with these doctors and that's what i'm going to talk about. so don't even bother asking me all of these other questions that you all are curious about, okay? don't even bother. >> it's a good question, though. >> are you concerned about the fact that these women do want to
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come forward. >> what did i say -- excuse me? excuse me! >> step aside, please. >> no, no, no, what part of no don't people understand? >> so there you heard mr. cain say, what part of "no" do you people not understand. and shouted, excuse me to the press as he tried to make his way through. i'm not sure if we're showing the video right now. but after he made those comments he started to make his way into what was billed as a press conference for this event at a that event, fredricka, he didn't didn't take any questions, he just made an additional statement to the doctors. but en route to that separate press conference room, there was a lot of pushing and shoving that went on. it appeared that some of mr. cain's security staff was pushing members of the working press. there were also some hotel employees that were also physically pushing and elbowing members of the working press en route it that press conference
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room. so this was a pretty nasty scene. i don't think we've seen this candidate, who is usually in a very jovial, you know, sort of mood, he sings in a lot of his events, there was obviously no singing at this event. this was a very different herman cain that we saw this morning, fredricka. >> and at the commencement of this event, he's on his way now to capitol hill, is that correct? where he'll be meeting with republican leaders and likely to encounter more reporters and more questions? >> that's right, and they may find it more difficult to push members of the working press on capitol hill with capitol police officers also there. the capitol police will keep the press for a good bit, away from mr. cain as he makes his way in there. if they choose the right entrance. it all depends on the entrance, when you make your way into the capitol. it will be interesting to see how all of that plays out. i will say i also had a few moments to chat very briefly
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with mark block, the chief of staff for the cain campaign. he indicated there might be some conversations going on between cain campaign and the national restaurant association as with we speak, regarding those confidentiality agreements that apparently these two accusers of herman cain from the late 1990s signed. he held up to his phone at one point and said, this may be the call now. and later told me, it should be an interesting 48 hours. so obviously all of this is happening at a rapid pace with the cain campaign. and i think we saw an indication just a little while ago, that it's getting difficult for the candidate to tolerate all of this. >> right, and still unclear, even from the national restaurant association, whether herman cain answering reporters' questions about it in any way, violated that agreement. or if this agreement is strictly between the restaurant association and the two women who have their accusations. and he may not be a party to that agreement. jim acosta, thanks so much on
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occupy oakland is fired up today. the anti-wall street group is leading a citywide strike and labor unions are joining in. plans include marches, pickets outside banks and an attempt to shut down the city's port. our reporter dan simon is in oakland. >> this group of protesters in oakland became energized last week when they were eviktded by the city which set up the violent confrontation with police. now they're back in full force, tent city back here in front of city hall. they want to see if they can take things to the next level by calling for a general city strike. they want workers to skip work. they're also telling teachers and students to not go to
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school. we know that they're going to be several hundred people marching throughout the streets of oakland. they say this will be a peaceful protest. given what we saw last week, police are preparing for all eventualities. dan simon, cnn, oakland, california. you may remember an iraq war veteran was seriously injured in that incident that dan just mentioned. former marine scott olsen suffered a skull fracture when he was hit by a projectile during last week's police crackdown in oakland. that attack has galvanized other military veterans. they're now mobilizing today, to join forces with the occupy wall street protesters in new york. you're looking at live pictures right now at that site. iraq veterans against the war, and veterans of the 99% are hoping for a strong, uniformed presence, they plan to march from vietnam veterans plaza to liberty square. and some say his chances are slim at best, but this democratic mayor in mississippi says he will be the state's next
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call this toll-free number now. new hampshire traditionally holds the first primary in a presidential race and now it is firm, new hampshire, with a primary date. mark your calendar, january 10th. all right, history is unfolding right now in mississippi. for the first time since reconstruction, an african-american has captured a major party nomination in that state. that person is johnny dupree. the democratic mayor of hattiesburg who is now running for governor. but can he win in a southern state that still bears the confederate emblem in its flag? here's cnn's don lemon. ♪ >> if you thought that johnny dupree for governor campaign wore celebrating, except for johnny dupree. he couldn't win the mississippi
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primary because he's a black man in a state stigmatized by racism. because he didn't have nearly as much money to spend as his white republican opponent. lieutenant governor, phil bryant. >> you can fill in the blanks. >> but primary voters made history, by making johnny dupree, the first african-american ever to have a real chance of becoming the governor of mississippi. >> it's awesome, isn't it? isn't it awesome? that we live in a place called america that allows things like that to happen. that have never happened before. isn't that awesome? >> but is it realistic in a race where not much distinguishes one candidate from the other. they disagree mostly over how to pay for universal health care. and whether voters should show i.d. at the polls. and those two ideas aren't enough to motivate voters. according it retired political professor, joseph parker. >> most white voters in mississippi vote for the white candidate and most black voters vote for the black candidate. >> parker says to win as governor, johnny dupree would have to get all of the black
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votes and at least a thid of the white. he did it in 2001, when he became the first black mayor of hattiesburg. but can he do it statewide? >> if he does, it will be like moses rolling back the red sea. >> i'm here to talk to you about color -- green. >> the only color dupree wants to address is money. something his state, the nation's poorest, desperately needs. something his opponent has a lot of. outspending dupree 7-1. but dupree is confident. >> i have 100% chance of not winning, if i wasn't in the race. but i got a 50% chance of winning because i'm in the race. >> dupree has proven the polls, the pundits and the naysayers wrong before. but with which much at stake, can he do it again? don lemon, cnn, hattiesburg, mississippi. sunday, november 13th, soledad o'brien talks about it
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all right. you have been sounding off on our talk back question. do weddings trump marriage? carol costello is here with your responses. >> that's the question. i know. funny responses today. do weddings trump marriage? this from karen. okay, so i first saw trump and wedding in the same sentence and thought holy cow, another one? this from marcus. the airwaves filled with wedding reality shows where the brides and grooms sturn into monsters and dig themselves into financial ruin just to have the narcicisstic me day at any cost. the real meaning of marriage, love, companion shship, support
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diluted or eliminated. my hubby and i went to the justice of the peace. we were not concerned with putting on a show. we have been married almost 14 years now. this from erin. power rests in the strength and blessings which come as a result of a loving relationship, not the ceremony. keep the conversation flowing. facebook.com/carolcnn. >> doesn't look like people have lost hope in the sanctity of marriage. just their -- they are drawing the parallels of going the distance with the big poofy wedding. >> they are still willing to give eight go with the hopes that yes, there is such a thing as a happy marriage. >> love prevail. all right. carol costello, thanks so much. we will check back with you. a russian spy ring operating in broad daylight with no idea fbi cameras were actually clicking away. we will will show you the video that could be right out of a james bond movie. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil
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passed on information. how the fbi trailed and finally cracked the operation. in one video from january 2010, anna chapman, redheaded bombshell who later went on to fame and n moscow as a tv host, sits in a new york coffee shop wearing designer sunglasses. unknowingly talking with an undercover fbi agent about problems with her laptop she uses to communicate with russian officials. you are ready for the next step, okay, he asks? okay, she says. this is not laptop to laptop. this is person to person, the agent says. in another video, the classic spy technique, brush pass. as another spy trades off a bag full of cash with a russian official as they pass in a train station. the fbi was forced to release the material, recorded over the decade the fbi had the ten russians under surveillance, as part of a freedom of information act request. and it looks just like a spy
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movie. including one russian digging up a package of money from what in spy lingo is called a dead drop. this spy ring is over but the fbi says that it is not the end of the story. >> the u.s. remains the target of most of the world's spying. and again, as long as we have policy information, technology and research the rest of the world wants and as long as foreign intel services want to gain a strategic advantage against us, we will continue to be the target of that kind of spying. >> reporter: anna chapman and the others were sent home in a spy swap last year but their techniques live on. jill dougherty, cnn, the state department. top of the hour. let's get you up to speed. presidential candidate herman cain lashes out at reporters trying to ask about allegations of sexual harassment. allegations that cain denies. after a meeting behinded close doors with a group of doctors cain got into a terse exchange
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with reporters. jim across that says it ended with pushing and shoving by members of cain's security team. here's how it got started. >> let me say one thing. i'm here with these doctors and that's what i'm going to talk about. so don't even bother asking me all of these other questions that you all are curious about. okay? don't even bother. >> are you concerned about the fact these women do want to -- >> what did i say? >> are you concerned -- >> excuse me! excuse me! >> herman cain in alexandria, virginia. greece's cabinet today backed the prime minister's call for a public vote on the european debt deal. news about the vote sent markets into a steep decline yesterday. but stocks are on the rebound today. the dow is up 184 points. mark receipts getting a boost
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from better than expected report on jobs. the people come first not finances. that's just one of the slogans protesters are chanting at the g-20 summit in france. so far the protests have been peaceful but past demonstrations turned violent. the g-20 includes finance ministers and central bank governors from 19 countries and european union. julian assange is a step closer to being sent to sweden for questioning on sexual assault accusations. an appeals court in london today rejected assange's arguments against extradition. assange denies that he sexually assaulted two women in sweden. he says the allegations against him are just that -- allegations. >> i have not been charged with any crime in any country. >> we have new pictures today of a jetliner's dramatic emergency landing in poland. take a look. here you can see the plane coming in with no landing gear.
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somehow the pilot manages to steer it on to the runway on its belly. the pilot from the miracle on the hudson landlanding says that's no easy feat. >> they would have only the rudder on the tale to use to keep the airplane lined with the run way and keep it from going off to one side. as you slowed down with less air flowing over the rudder it would become less effective. it was very important to test down exactly in the center and maintain that alignment throughout the stopping of the airplane. >> former u.s. secretary of state condoleezza rice is talking about a poison scare. rice said it happen ad few weeks after the 9/11 attacks when the country was on edge and the white house on alert. in an abc interview rice says she was on a trip to china with president bush when she got a secured video conference call from the white house. >> the vice president came on the screen and said that the white house detected toxin and
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we were -- those of us that were expose wood die. >> he said that? >> yes, he said that. i remember what he just -- sort of freezing and the president saying what was that? what was that? >> including the president? >> including the president because the exposure time would have men we were all exposed. >> rice says they spent 24 hours in shanghai waiting for test results from the cdc before they learned it was a false alarm. she writes about the incident in her new memoir. occupy oakland protesters are taking their movement to another level today and they are leading a general strike to shut down the city. tim simons, organizer with occupy oakland, joins us now by phone from the protest sites. so, tim, how is it going? tell me about how the people -- how many people have shown up. >> there's already a lot of people here. 9:00 a.m., noon and 5:00 p.m. the main intersection is closed. most of the businesses are also closed in the downtown.
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it is real loud. people are dancing in the street now. it is pretty cool. >> what's the broader aim here? >> i mean, there is a lot of aim. one of the most important things about the occupy movement is that it gives a whole wide range of constituencies and democrats away to come together about how the economic system is not working. we are trying to show the potential about the movement. it is not just about camping, occupying, plazas, parks, squares. we can take this into the streets and a take it into workplaces, into the schools. really show it is an experiment to show how far we can go with this and this is really dash movement about changing the economic system and not -- at this point we still have the power to do that. >> what's the benefit of shutting down oakland, california? >> we are -- title of this -- liberate oakland. shut down the 1%. 1% shuts down ordinary working people and poor people every day. and that's been happening and increased rates in the economic crisis that started in 2008.
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so our goal here shows we can shut down 1%. we are at the -- violent economic power every day. today we are going to take that back and show that, you know, we are aiming for most of the large banks and banks and large corporations and we have asked all banks and large corporations close today and make sure we can show we can -- shut down the smallest capitol. show off the -- potential and warning shot to the 1%. >> is this object jif for today only or your aim or hope this will be over a number of day? >> well, we are starting off with one day. there hasn't been a general strike in the united states since 1946. that strike was here in oakland in 1946. so, you know, we are -- i wouldn't say we are starting slow. i think we are going to start off one step at a time and see what happens today. we heard rumors of national calls for general strikes but you know, from the -- carry over into tomorrow i wouldn't be surprise. >> tim simon of oakland,
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california, thanks so much. here is your chance to talk back on one of the big stories of the day. today's question do weddings trump marriage? carol costello joining from us new york with more on this. carol? >> i had to get away from the subject of politics for one day so we are talking about kim kardashian. reality show bride. the flowers, the dress, the 20-carat ring. so beautiful and so over. kim kardashian's multimillion dollar wedding drew huge ratings for the e network. for kim filing for divorce after 72 days some are speculating it was all a hoax. same-sex marriage advocates are having a field day. have you seen this from the facebook page of the national organization for marriage equali equality? it says at the bottom, if you think gay marriage cheapens the constitution, two words -- kim kardashian. we are not just celebrity obsessed culture, we are a wedding obsessed culture.
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at least when it comes to the theater of marriage. when it comes to the actual marriage, do we walk the walk? according to a pew research center survey, about one-fourth of 20-something are married. that's down from two-thirds in 1960. about half of all first marriages split up. why? psychologists say that the kardashian wedding spectacle sums it up nicely -- narcissism. it speeds into the knee and -- me and not the we culture. the wedding is, on one hand, a healthy way of making a public commitment to each other but preps like a cancer where the focus is on the show and not on the long-term or reality of the relationship. the talk back question today -- do weddings trump marriage? facebook.com/carolcnn. i will read your comments later this hour. >> you have already gotten a few saucy comments. we expect more, i'm sure.
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carol, thanks so much. >> yes. here is a run-down of the stories coming up. fire hydrants. not just for putting out fires. apparently they can lift stolen cars as well. herman cain trying to turn the page. his new slogan in the midst of allegations from the past. then -- a brokerage firm goes belly-up and hundreds of millions of dollars go missing. now questions for the man in charge, new jersey's former governor. then president barack obama off to france. will he have any sway at this year's g-20? the occupy wall street protest like you have never seen them before. >> i'm going to be here until i die. i don't know how long other people will be here. >> hi, everybody. >> hi, everybody. cellphone ring] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 days, it's been 3 weeks. so, i used my citi simplicity card to pick up a few things.
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>> in the race for the white house, herman cain is surging in the polls and fighting sexual harassment allegations that could damage his campaign. the republican front runner is denying he did anything wrong. but now one of the two women reportedly accusing him of harassment is threatening to speak out. cnn's jim across that is joining us now from alexandria, virginia. and, jim, while herman cain was trying to talk to or focus on talking with doctors in alexandria, i guess he got a little hot under the collar as well. >> reporter: fredricka, this was definitely a different herman cain we saw a few moments ago here inside the hilton hotel in alexandria, virginia. northern virginia, cain was speaking to a group of conservative doctors here and outside of that ballroom, obviously, there were a lot of reporters waiting for him to ask
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questions p this ongoing situation that he has been accused of sexually harassing two women since the 1990s. and cain basically lost his cool. he lashed out at reporters who were trying to ask him questions about this matter. let's go to the videotape and show you exactly what happened. >> let me say one thing. i'm here with these doctors and that's what i'm going to talk about. so don't even bother asking me about all of these other questions that you all are curious about. okay? don't even bother. >> are you concerned about the fact these women want to -- >> what did i say? >> are you concerned about -- >> excuse me. excuse me! what part of "no" don't people understand? . >> reporter: if you can look at
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the video, it shows that there was a lot of pushing and shoving that went on outside of the ballroom. cain's security staff was trying to get the media out of their way so the candidate could go inside a dproens room where he was, again, going to give another statement to this group of conservative doctors. a couple of members of the working press complained they were elbowed by mr. cain's staff. this was definitely a very nasty scene at this hotel and all of this is obviously about this -- these ongoing questions. you know, we were trying to ask the question of herman cain whether or not he would call on the national restaurant association to release these two women accusing him of sexual harassment back in the 1990s, whether he would release those two women from confidentiality agreements they signed in order to receive settlement payments from that lobbying organization and cain was not willing to answer those questions. however, i did have a moment to talk to cain's chief of staff
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after all of this occurred and i asked him are you in talks right now with the national restaurant association to try to get those agreements released. and he basically held up his phone to his ear and said this may be the call now. then said should be an interesting 48 hours. we are automatic standing by to see exactly what happens in the next 48 hours. it should be interest. >> from alexandria, herman cain was off to where, jim? >> jim, can you hear me now? all right. looks like jim across that is not able to hear me. we understand that herman cain was scheduled to head over to capitol hill. still unclear whether that is still the plan and whether he will be doing that. checking stories and making news across the country. a visual reminder of why you should never crash your car into a fire hydrant. this was the scene in san diego after this stolen car did just that. high-pressured water lifted the
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vehicle ten feet into the air and then on to texas, more water and another car. except this one is in a pool. it happened after an 86-year-old woman hit the gas and drive instead of reverse. that sent her car plunging through a fence and right into the pool. lucky for her a neighbor saw it all happen and came to her rescue. who says that you are what you eat? don't tell that to this 15-foot burmese python captured in the florida everglades. inside of that snake is a doe, deer, 76-pound deer. officials who later killed the python say that it is the largest snake ever captured in the state. can you guess which state has the most people without a bank account? sit mississippi? north dakota? new hampshire?
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we asked which state has the most people without a bank account. it is mississippi with 16.4% of households don't have bank accounts. after that, 12.2% in washington, d.c. in kentucky, 11.9% without bank accounts. in texas, 11.7% of the population without bank accounts. investors around the world are on edge over concerns of economic crisis in europe can sweep around the globe. european markets seem ad bit confused about which way to go. asian exchanges have finished mixed. alison kosik joins us from new york. how sit looking on wall street? >> looks like the european debt cries sis being put on the back burner a little bit today because got the rally continue.
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dow up 166 points. normal to see this kind of bounce back after we watched the dow fall almost 600 minutes on between monday's session and tuesday's session. a couple of optimistic jobs reports are helping one showing that private companies added more jobs last month and another showing a drop in the number of layoffs. but although the european debt issues are kind of on the back burner, investors are still keeping watch for the headlines that have come out of europe because there is still a lot of uncertainty over whether that european debt deal is even going to happen after yesterday's bombshell from the greek prime minister. he wants a public vote on the bailout measure. pretty much throwing everything into question. that's why we saw the sell-off yesterday but now a bounce back today. all bargain hunters are out. >> okay. lot going on at the federal reserve today as well. should we be watching out for? >> there is a new schedule the fed has put out. typically the fed puts out a policy decision and statement every six weeks. but four times a year they shake it up like today. so this is sort of the schedule for today.
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in about ten minutes, the fed will come out with its policy decision and its statement. it is going to come out with what's going to do on -- key interest rate. that key interest rate is almost certain to stay at historic lows. there is an outside chance the fed could wind up rolling out a new stimulus program. at 2:00, the fed will go ahead and deliver the new economic forecast. this will include gdp, unemployment, and inflation expectations and gdp is likely to be revised down. finally at 2:15, fed chief ben bernanke is going to step before the microphone and take center stage and have his news conference. this is unusual because the fed chief usually stays quiet because his comments, he knows this, can move markets. this is something new he started this year. just his third news conference. the idea behind doing this is sort of give just the average person a better understanding of how the fed makes its decisions. >> all right. alison kosik, thanks so much for that. when president barack obama
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arrived for the g-20 summit in france tomorrow, it will be right down to business. but it won't be business as usual. with europe's economic problems hitting the u.s. there is little he can do except urge european nations to do their part. here is chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. >> reporter: when the president meets with world leaders at the g-20 summit keep this in mind. what happens in europe doesn't necessarily stay in europe. >> the biggest head wind, the american economy is facing right now, is uncertainty about europe president it is affecting global markets. if europe is weak, if europe is not growing, as -- our largest trading partner, that will have an impact on our businesses and ability to create jobs in the united states. >> reporter: france and germany outline ad plan to rescue europe's debt-strapped nations. at the summit those leaders will be pressed to fill in more details and explain where they will get all the money their plan requires. the answers to those questions
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matter. >> europe goes into a deep recession, it will hit us in many ways. their direct effects, we trade with them. much more importantly, it will shake confidence and hurt our financial sector and take our very, very slow growth and possibly push us into a recession. >> if europe really were to have a continuing crisis or worsening crisis it would be very hard for the u.s. to avoid a double-dip recession ourselves. >> reporter: recession would not only hurt the economy, it could wound the president politically. >> if there is a recession, if the recession is caused by something in europe, caused by something in asia, something here, people are not going to sort through it and sort of go well, gee, let's, you know what i mean. >> reporter: given america's slowdown and political stalemate in washington, there's only so much the u.s. can do.
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>> they want their picture with president obama. he is t central person everyone is looking to. i don't think that the united states can simply dictate the terms of an agreement the way it may have been able to 30 years ago. >> reporter: expect to hear plenty of questions about what will china, the u.s., or the international monetary fund will play in financing europe's rescue. so far the obama administration's position has been europe has to finance its own rescue. jessica yemen, cnn, washington. >> taking matters into his own hands the ceo of starbucks has a plan to get people back to work. and it includes you. but first, can you guess which star is most popular on youtube? is it rihanna, justin bieber, or lady gaga? use magnesium,illips' caplets an ingredient that works more naturally with your colon than stimulant laxatives, for effective relief of constipation without cramps. thanks.
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we asked you of these three, which star is the most popular on youtube? the answer is justin bieber. according to a social media monitoring company, the teenage heartthrob became the first person ever to get 2 billion views on youtube. here is a run-down of the stories we are working on. next, brokerage firm run by former new jersey governor and u.s. senator jon corzine is m s missing hundreds of millions of dollars after going bankrupt. inside the occupy wall street protest, we will find out what it is like for demonstrators that spend their days rallying nights camped out in a park. later, the man who leads starbucks wants your help and your money in creating new jobs across america. one firm that got caught up in the european debt crisis and suffered heavily is m.f. global,
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commodities and derivatives brokerage house which collapsed in bankruptcy monday. it is led by jon corzine, former new jersey governor. he was once on the short list for u.s. treasury secretary. cnn's lisa sylvester reports that the feds are investigating why hundreds of millions of dollars in customer money is missing. >> reporter: things spun wildly out of control. the firm had star power. run by jon corzine, former new jersey governor, former senator, former ceo of goldman sa of gol. it had more than $6 billion. with europe's finances teetering m.f. global began to crumble. >> at the end of the day they took a very risky position and it was very large and because of its size, became risky and put pressure on the capital firm ultimately resulting in a lack
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of confidence by investors and other parties and essentially creating a run on the bank. >> reporter: the major ratings agencies downgraded the bonds to junk status. corzine was close to finding a buyer for the beleaguered company over the weekend but the deal fell apart when it was revealed that more than $600 million of customers' money couldn't be accounted for. the question is -- was it an accounting error or did m.f. global break the cardinal rule and use funds from private brokerage accounts to cover its losses. keeping company money separate from customer funds is a bedrock of the investment and securities industry. william cohen, author of "money and power" describes corzine as ambitious, determined, and out to make a comeback on wall street after his career in politics. >> this was not about his fortune. his fortune was set, $400 million, he was set. this was about being able to
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strutd his stuff on wall street again so his swinging for the fences with other people's money and should have known how fragile his business was. all of the wall street businesses are houses of cards as was shown in september and october of 2008 and for jon corzine not to realize that, beyond outrageous. this guy was the ceo of goldman sachs. he should have known better. i'm shocked that he let this happen. >> lisa sylvester with us now. people who have brokerage accounts with m.f. global, what's that being told to do? >> well, first off, you know, we contacted m.f. global for that story bunt didn't hear back. they were not returning any of the calls. a trustee has been named to oversee the liquidation of m.f. global. his job is to see what's exactly missing and how much, from which customer accounts. there is a website that people can look up.
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mfglob mfglobaltrustee.com. at this point they are trying to wade through, look through all the documents and books and figure out exactly what they are dealing with. they should it could be as much $600 million. potentially a little bit more than that. >> this is going to be a painstaking process. thanks so much. lisa sylvester. "in depth" now. ever wonder what it is like living, eating, breathing the occupy protest? well, we spent 24 hours with activists in the new york park. check out this day in the life. ♪ >> i'm going to be here until i die. i don't know how long some other people will be here. >> my tent! >> falling apart. >> see the apple floating over there? ♪ >> you need towels?
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>> yes. >> thank you. >> i'm charging the battery by pedaling this stationary bike. we are taking the recycled batteries around the park wherever we need power. >> i hear capitalism. >> they criticize the cuban revolution. said the revolution can eat its own children. i can eat burger king. >> help people. look. why are we here? why are we here? what are we going to do? maybe it is to help people out! >> it is all volunteer here. >> we are just waiting to eat right outer loop it is dinner time. >> hi. >> hi.
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>> hi, everybody. >> hi, everybody. >> welcome to general assembly. >> nyc general assembly has been going on since 7:00 and going -- 10:40 now. it will probably continue until midnight. >> good morning. it is about 8:30. i just woke up out of my bed roll. had a little breakfast. i'm ready to occupy. >> shut it down for a day, what would i do? pack up my stuff and go to my parents house and look for work. live life all over again, you know. it is going to be a good day
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starbucks wants your money to help create jobs across america. giant coffee chain is sigel wrist bands in and proceeds go to a group that makes loans to small businesses. starbucks' ceo howard schultz sat down with poppy harlow to talk about that program. >> reporter: right now in starbucks across the country up find these wrist bands and the company is asking for a $5 donation and then you get a wristband to try to help create jobs in america. all that money is going to go help fund small business loans. the big question is -- why is starbucks asking for your money
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to create jobs. we asked howard schultz the ceo, to take a listen. >> real issue here is -- we have 9% unemployment in america. it is almost double that in the hispanic and african-american community. people are losing faith and hope in america. and i'm saying to businesses and business leaders across the country, let's not wait for washington. we, too, can make a difference. >> the back store i don't this is very interesting. this move comes on the heels of a pledge that howard schultz made earlier this year to stop any campaign donations to politicians and until washington really gets its fiscal house in order and gets a long-term debt plan and he pledged to hire. he went as far to ask business leaders across the country also to join his pledge to hire americans. i asked him if he thinks there is a moral obligation for business owners in this country right now in this jobs crisis to hire. he said it is not a moral obligation but encouraging businesses to do whatever they can and invest the money they have in creating jobs in this country. he, plained why he thinks that
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it is so important for businesses to do that right now. take a listen. >> the old school of looking at profit as a singular goal for the reason a company exists, i think it is a shallow wrong approach. i also believe that those companies that are willing to embrace the balance between profitability and social conscience will make more money. you will be able to attract and retain greater people because they will believe in the reservoir of trust of the company. >> you can see a lot more from our interview with howard schultz. we have it there on cnn money. an interesting move by a very, very big american business. back to you. >> indeed. thanks so much. to your health now. a new study suggests drinking even as little as one drink of alcohol a day may increase your risk for breast cancer. elizabeth cohen is here with details on this. what more do we noe about the link between alcohol and breast cancer n. >> we have known a long time -- i think and you i have done stories together on this, that drinking a lot of alcohol can
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increase a woman's chance of getting breast cancer. so the message was keep clear and don't drink a lot. however, with this study finds is women who drink three to six glasses of wine a week. okay. that's not very much at all. even less than a glass a day, that they had an increased risk of getting breast cancer and the more they drank, the higher the risk of getting breast cancer. >> this is astounding because there have been other studies that say you drink alcohol or moderation of wine or, you know, red or white, and that reduces heart disease. now we are seeing the flip. >> this is -- >> flip side effect. >> this is a tough one. this is an area where women have to be empowered patients and the reason is that medicine does account have an answer to this. this is a bit of a conundrum. we know, as you said, a little bit of alcohol can decrease your risk of getting heart disease but now we are hearing that a little bit of alcohol may be bad for breast cancer. when i talked to doctors about this, if you have a lot of breast cancer in your family, you pay be one of those women that does wanting to drink.
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>> does it matter what type of alcohol? >> no. >> wine or hard liquor? >> it doesn't seem to. the study looked at wine. alcohol is alcohol and doesn't matter exactly what it is. because women who have -- drink alcohol seem to have high estrogen levels. high estrogen levels are bad because breast cancers live off estrogen and seems to be the reason why. getting back to our empowered patient question, you have to use your head and talk to your doctor. again, if you have lots of breast cancer in your family, you may want to stay away from alcohol. if you have heart disease in your family you may choose to have a drink a day or maybe not. it is a decision you have to make because there is not a lot of science that will tell what you to do. >> something you still need to talk it over with your doctor. >> use your own head, too. think about your family history. that's important. >> sounds good. all right. elizabeth cohen, appreciate that. today's talk back question. does marriage trump a wedding? or vice versa?
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four elderly georgia men will appear in federal court a short time from now and charges in a homegrown terror case. prosecutors say that they are part after fringe militia group. they are accused of plotting attack of government officials with explosives and a deadly toxin. george how sell live outside the courthouse in gainesville, georgia. tell us more about how these suspects were uncovered.
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>> well, the group is called covert group. investigators say that while there is already focus on international terrorism there's also concern about the rise of militia groups and anti-government sentiment and groups like this that allegedly plan to kill indiscriminately. >> they had some of the ingredients that were necessary but not all of the ingredients and it is important for the public to know and be assured the fbi was on top of this. and they were monitoring this every step of the way and -- that these individuals were never at a point where they were actually able to carry this out without the fbi's knowledge. >> definitely some scary stuff here. i have been reading through one of the affidavits here and for one of the people who is considered the leader of the group, frederick thomas, want to read you a few quotes, alleged quotes in the affidavit. first, quote, we would have to blow the whole build like timothy mcveigh. he says, quote, there's no way
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for us to save this country, to save georgia, without doing something that's highly, highly illegal. again, all of this information coming from confidential informants who are following this all along and tipped investigators off to let them know that the group was planning to buy ammunition and explosives and that they planned to produce a deadly toxin called ricin. ricin can either be a pellet, come as a powder, or a spray. if it gets on your skin or if it gets into your lungs, there is no cure it is deadly. the plan, they say, with as to spread ricin on highways in atlanta and several other cities in the u.s., washington, d.c., newark, new jersey, and just to name a few. at this point we are waiting to see these men, the four men, from frederick thomas, dan roberts, ray adams, to make their first appearance in federal court. these men in their 60s and 70s planned to target corporate leaders and members of the media and we are told that they planned to target several
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buildings in atlanta. federal buildings, like the atf and irs. >> george, are investigators saying whether the public was ever in any danger? >> reporter: well, from what we have been able to gather from the affidavit, it seems these confidential informants were following these men all along and when the men got to the point where they were ready to purchase the ammunition, the explosives, that's when it seems these federal agents moved in. >> all right. george how el, thanks so much. gainesville, georgia. the threat of home-grown terror groups is always a huge concern for the u.s. government. cnn national security xrbtor fran townsend weighed in last hour and says that the arrests of the suspected militia members in georgia suggest ever efforts to infiltrate terror groups are paying off. >> i think what we are seeing now is the results of an investment and building the fbi, fbi's funding over the last ten years has been increased and number of agents on the street is increased.
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their capability and membership in the intelligence community all pay off and in this sort of an instance. that coupled with their relationship with state and local law enforcement is the best of what the fbi can do. we is seen increasingly they are used to undercover informants to get into these plots, to identify all of the individuals involved, before they take it down and before these groups are able to actually act. >> occupy oakland is fired up today. anti-wall street group is leading a city wide strike and labor unions are joining in. plans include marches and pickets outside of banks and attempt to shut down the city's port. our dan simon is in oakland. >> reporter: this group of protesters in oakland became really energized last week when they were evicted by the city which set up that violent confrontation with police. now they are back in full force and tent city back here in front of city all. they want to see if they can take things to the next level by calling for a general city strike.
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they want workers to skip work. they are also telling teachers and students to not go to school. and we know there are going to be several hundred people marching throughout the streets of okay land and it will be a peaceful protest but given what we saw last week, police are preparing for all eventualities. today's talk back question -- do weddings trump marriage? matthew says we don't give up. no infidelity, no reason to split. where i come from divorce is highly frowned upon. in america it is a business venture.
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responses. carol? >> i love that music. was that your idea? >> no. but i heard the discussions. yeah. >> i love that. it certainly is true. our talk back question today -- do weddings trump marriage? this from samuel. what's with all the indignation. it is like people never saw this before. they should know better especially with kim kardashian. that was never a marriage. it was business deal. this from stephen -- i married my wife of 25 years when we were a mere 20 years old. we made a decision that we was more than important and more rewarding than i. this from shirley. kim's marriage was a sick attempt for ratings only and make it a case for same-sex marriage is sad. same-sex marriage goes against the laws of nature. this from caroline. my fiance and i have been dating for eight years and are excited to be married. the dress shopping and plan sing fun but i feel story for the
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people that get caught up in the spectacle of the event and feel like they lose the real joy of the occasion. the conversation going. facebook.com/carolcnn. thanks as always for your comments. >> we knew that would fire up quite a few people. thanks so much, carol. i want to get a quick look at the numbers right now as we continue to watch the markets for you. the dow up 160 points. good news there. especially on the precipice of the federal reserve. and saying that the economy is getting stronger but the job market remains weak. their holding rates near 0%. and after a tough day yesterday, the market are rebounding as we say 158 points now up. does the punishment fitted the crime? >> i'm a 43-year-old mother, grandmoth grandmother. >> we will show why you about 12,000 inmates locked up on crack cocaine charges will be let out of prison much sooner than expected.
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prison is halmida featured in this video. >> i'm a 43-year-old mother and grandmother serving my 18th year into a 27-year federal prison sentence. >> reporter: had she be convicted of cocaine charges, she would no longer be in prison. new guidelines shortened sentences for estimated 12,000 inmates. >> this really has been one of the great stains on our federal criminal justice system for 20 years or more. >> reporter: michael is a federal public defender who fought for years to change crack cocaine sentences so that they are similar to punishments for crimes involving powdered cocaine. while the u.s. sentencing commission changed the guidelines this summer, they only now went into effect for those in prison. he says that 75 of his clients were freed. >> lot of people have been sitting in jail a long time not because they didn't commit crimes but because the punishment they faced was too harsh and unjustified compared
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to other people who had committed similar crimes in similar ways. >> reporter: he says that there has been a racial disparity with the majority of people convicted of possession or dealing of crack being african-americans. congress created harsh sentences for crack cocaine when it hit the streets in the eighties. five grams of crack amounted to five years in prison. same sentence for 500 grams of cocaine. in 2010, congress passed the fair sentencing act which reduced disparities. it is something julie stewart, president of families against mandatory minimums, has fought for. >> yes, the person has broken the law. yes, there should be a consequence. but how much time is too much? most mandatory sentences are so high and so rigid that judges can't get around them. so people are going to prisons for extraordinarily long times, way beyond what they actually need to learn their lesson. >> the new rules mean more than reduced sentences and early
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releases for eligible inmates. the federal sentencing commission estimates $200 million could be saved over the first five years. mary snow, cnn, new york. much more of the cnn newsroom straight ahead with randi kaye. >> hi there. hello, everyone. we are casting the news net wide this hour. global finance abroad. political intrigue at home and down home insurrection. alleged exposed and foiled in the georgia mountains. we begin with questions herman cain does want to hear and allegations one ex-employee is not free to repeat. at least not yet. my colleague, jim across that, is following the fallout that came to light on sunday and, jim, i understand things got heated today. >> reporter: that's right. you can say that her mane cain got a little testy with the reporters earlier this morning. we are at the hotel in northern virginia where cain met with a group of conservative doctors earlier this morning. an
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