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tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  November 4, 2011 2:00am-3:00am EDT

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er father to get help. i want to play just a little bit from the actual tape, just for you to get a sense of how severe this beating was. >> bend over that bed. >> dad. >> bend over the bed. bend over the bed. bend over the bed. >> stop, stop. stop. stop. >> bend over the bed. i'm [ bleep ] your face. roll over. >> dad, stop. >> that's just a few seconds. it goes on for some seven minutes. she reported it herself seven years ago. i asked her how bad that beating ended up being. >> did you have bruises after
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that? >> oh, yes. the bruises were the worst i'd ever had. i had had other lashings like that, but this one produced the most bruising. and the next day it was all up and down my legs and he'd also hit my arms when he couldn't get to my legs. >> he was saying it's not as bad as it looked in the tape. >> i think he's in serious denial because i told him it hurt to walk the next day and his response was one word. he said "good." >> hillary also joined me with her mom who's snow divorced from her father. her mom also took part in this beating and has apologized to hillary for it. i asked hillary about some of the things her dad was now saying in a statement that he just released. let's listen. >> hillary warned her father if
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about. we focus on reporting, do the
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work, and find the "outfront" five. first, "outfront" has obtain add new mug shot of a man who has charged an plat. "outfront" got this mug shot of manssor arbabsiar. the 56-year-old linking in texas was arrested after fbi said arbabsiar planned to use explosives to kill. the second suspect is still wanted by the united states. number two, a good day for the stock market. the dow up 208 points, 12,044. back above that psychologically 12,000 level. investors surprised when the european bank actually cut interest rates and when the greek prime minister -- talk about a flip-flop backed away from the vote to not take the country's package. unemployment benefits fell by 90370,000. that is important. below it good, above it bad. economists we spoke to note the claims data has started to go lower over the past if u weeks but it all depends on tomorrow's big employment report. expectations we have tonight,
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95,000 jobs likely created in the moth of october. number 4, there's a new number one place for millionaires, los alamos, new mexico. about 47% of the homes are homes to millionaires. the reason the laboratory which hires physicists, scientists and engineers. they earn a lot of money there. we did the math. 4,528 of the facilities' employees and students live in lohsal mohs which would account for a quarter of the population. that doesn't include the contractors and security that live at the lab. it's been 90 days since the u.s. has lost its credit rating. what are we doing?
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tonight 33 republicans have sign add letter to the super committee called on the 12 to balance the budget, reform entitlements, and, well, they're saying they don't want net tax increases. one of the 33 who signed it was gang of six member tom colburne of oklahoma. he has a few ideas how to get the credit back. he's "outfront" tonight. i spoke with him before the show about his plan to cut $9 trillion from the deficit over the next decade. he wants to cut out the fat, including $500 million that he says the department of energy spends on conferences on yachts with cigars. >> well, i can document at least $350 billion a year of waste, fraud, or duplication, and yet we can't get the senate to do anything about it, and we put forward 9 trillion dlors worth of savings which is really the number we have to do to get our country healthy again, and we haven't seen a lot of embracement of what is
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necessary. >> well, the gang of six has met with the super committee and a couple told them on "morning joe" that they should go big to the $4 trillion number. that's exactly the number 100 members of congress put forward yesterday when they came on this show. is this all talk, or are you all talking and on board with spending cuts, tax increases, and entitlement cut, all three? >> i think -- look. our country -- i think, first of all, you have to set the predicate. what is the problem? the problem is we're going to pay a very large price in a very short period of time if we don't start acting responsibly based on the numbers in front of us, and the minimum requirement for that is $4 billion to $5 billion just to buy five years. >> trillion, you mean, right? >> trillian, yeah. >> yeah. >> it's hard to keep the numbers straight, even for us up here. think the significant thing is
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it's okay if the committee does $1.2 trillion and that's their minimum mandate and we need to pass that, and then we need to move onto the next step. >> if tax increases are required to get a deal done, are you willing to do it on somebody somewhere? >> i've already stated that. i am. but i -- but we certainly don't want to do that without reforming the tax code. >> yes. >> because one of the biggest inhibitors to capital formation and job creation right now is the tax code. >> all right. let me ask you about your plan. you spent a year on it. it is the biggest i've seen so far with its $9 trillion price tag and you say as part of that you're going to cut from medicare. this is where it comes to having an adult conversation with american people. way. to play an ad for you that really shocked me from the aarp. >> so washington, before you even think about cutting my medicare and social security benefits, here's a number you
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should remember. 50 million. we are 50 million seniors who earned our benefits, and you will be hearing from us today and on election day. >> that's a threat, and does it offend you? >> well, it offends me because they're thinking about the aarp, not the country. the average couple at retiermtd have put in $110,000 into medicare and will take out $350,000. i think every grandparent in this country would reject that. for us to get out of our problems we have to reform medicare. we don't have to cut it. all we have to do is reform it. one thing i can guarantee is medicare won't be the same five years from now as it is today regardless of what aarp says because we can't borrow the money to pay for it. we can't get out of the problems we're in, erin, unless we have the courage and the statesmen to do that and that means to tell arp to take a hike and apr to take a hike. >> on this show we couldn't
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agree more on that. will it me ask you about your cuts on medicare. your plan calls for a 20% cut in medicare, medicaid somehow. i want to ask you -- >> actually that's not accurate. that's not accurate at all. we put an earnings test on medicare. that means the people who would be receiving the cut would be those that are wealthiest in this country. >> so you're saying a cut in overall spending but not necessarily in benefits. >> yeah, you're not going to see a cut in benefits. as a matter of fact, if we truly reformed it, we'll get better health care than we have today for less money. >> that sounds like you is can have your cake and eat it too. that's the problem. >> you can, because there's $100 billion a year in fraud in medicare that and that's enough to solve the problem? >> that's enough to start and if you put an earnings test on it and you actually bring it back to where it was supposed to be,
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which means on medicare part a you actually pay an adequate amount into the trust fund and part b you participate in the level what it was designed to participate and we get rid of the frautd and you change it where there's more consumerism and more direct consumer purchasing, we'll see a significant amount of savings. >> sir, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> we look forward to having you on again. thank you, sir. >> you bet. police officers in brazil went on an amazing run. take a look at this. with guns hanging out their windows. i mean this is like a movie, right? they chased down and rammed -- watch this -- yes, yes, this is -- this is heading where you think it might be. whoa. they rammed the wing of a small plane because they wanted to. they wanted to stop it from taking off. they then seized the plain. as you can see them jumping out there with a -- is that an aka 47? it was filled with contraband electronics worst an estimate 2d $50,000. they arrested the people on board. matt is author of "outlaws inc." it's pretty amaing video. what do we know about it. >> there are a lot of unknown unknowns. the fact is these are not -- if you like, these are not mafia
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men. they're not tight controlled families of organized criminals. these are pretty much chances. they're loosing a agreegations of people who are really the financial incentives of their -- fehr for them to try to get away with what they can. they work on cash. they don't have receipts they'll do impromptu bathroom conversions to their planes so the customs guys who's inspecting them don't know. there are space under the seats for 250 tos of guns or whatever. taking off from some god forsaken air strip. the fact is most of the air strips in the world, they don't have no radar and no kind of customs or no controls at all. >> it's true. >> it's worth it for them to try it. >> and you point out, there are a lot of air strips in the world are god-forsaken. you know it. we know it. let me ask you. this is the 12th plane like this that has been confiscated in brazil. i know you've been doing a lot
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of digging into this, spend a lot of time with people trying to pull off these sorts of acts. what are the top things that people are trying to smuggle right now? >> i would imagine weapons and drugs are still near the top. >> yeah. i mean -- well, actually the funny thing is the weapons and drugs are only near the top because they're easy. weapons are easy because there are so many of them. the number of chinese and russian-made guns and ammo, it's pretty much all profit. you can pick them up for peanuts. that's the reason weapons are popular. let's face it. there are a lot of independent warlords running around. drugs will always be around because there's a huge mark-up. i've about seen 12 kilos of cocaine being flung around as if
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they were fish slingers in the supermarket. these guys, if i understand correctly, they were carrying electrical goods. it's exactly like if you'd imagine some burglar running off with your vcr or dvd player. they're the lowestest on the run. the highest will be things like people. that's where you make your real profit. people smuggling and also the people who want to get in and out of countries on the sly. that also, i'm afraid, include some of our people in the government want to get in and out. >> that's unfortunate. double-edged sword. there's hypocrisy to go around. tell me the craziest thing you've ever seen in terms of what was smuggled and how it was done. >> well, i mean, there are plenty, but think the best thing i've ever seen is probably i've seen household objects, tvs, tables, sofas, et cetera, that were pretty much parcels of cocaine sculpted to look like household objects. that's a really, really popular
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thing. the fact is the customs guys in most of the third world or second world they're not paid as much as those smuggling. there's no incentive to open the door. they're like, give me a bottle of whiskey and i'm on my way. let's say it looks like a duvet and it's 200 pounds of cocaine with a sheet over it -- that's bizarre but not ununusual. >> cocaine coffee tables. thank you very much. >> everyone should have one. >> thank you. >> all right. thank you. >> still "outfront." closing arguments just concluded in the conrad murray michael jackson case. gone to jury. and love songs. ♪ love songs sung by sill vee oh, seriously.
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same time every night we do this. our outer circle. we reach out to our sources around the world. tonight to greece where financial chaos is looming, the embattled prime minister is fighting for his political light. cnn's jim bowden is in athens, and, jim, will prime minister pap andre yoes survive this? >> reporter: it's been a long day. he's refusing to resign. the opposition leader is refusing to come together in some sort of national unity. it seems that this idea of referendum could be off but it's not absolutely sure. what's at the balance here? greece's very future within the
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euro and the eu. and that's why markets and analysts are so concerned that greece could actually destabilize the entire european union just at a time when they could be heading back into a recession. erin? >> thank you very much, jim. something that's going to affect america too. we've just learned some breaking news. closing arguments have just concluded. the judge is going to give it to the jury to start deliberating sometime tomorrow morning. ted rowlands is out front. any idea how long it will last? >> one thing is facts are there were six weeks of testimony. if they go through it on any level, it should take them some time. however, we've seen it all. sometimes they go in and out and sometimes they could take days and days and days. >> what were the main points made today? did you haefr any kind of humdinger or zinger at the end? >> well, the prosecution basically said this isn't a doctor hch patient scenario.
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this is a guy who said, yeah, for 150 grand a month i'll give this guy propofol. the defense on the other hand said, listen, this is all about michael jackson. he's the one that caused it. in fact, if it was anyone other than michael jackson, if it was any other patient, we wouldn't be here. >> all right, ted. thanks. we appreciate it. the testimony in the case will be the key to whether the jury finds conrad murray guilty or not. let's bring in the hoefts of sanjay gupta m.d. and the medical correspondent, yes, his name is sanjay gupta. okay, i want to ask you a couple of things. it seems the biggest battle during the entire trial is the theory of how michael jackson died. the defense says maybe he injected himself with that fatal dose of propofol. i want to ask you this. given all that, is that scenario possible? >> it is possible, but i'll preface it by saying this whole thing is strange because you're
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starting at some points even before the idea that he may have injected himself. the idea that he was getting propofol at home, getting it without monitoring equipment, that he didn't have rhesus station equipment standing by. all of that is a preface, but having said that, it is possible he injected himself. 25 milligrams is a number that was tossed around a lot. that's a relatively small dose. someone got that dose. then that i feel a little sleepy for some time. it wears off pretty quickly. could he have gotten that dose, it wore off, he got up, gave himself more, perhaps. the thing that's been difficult, i think, from a medical standpoint is these doses are all so small and unlikely to have killed him and they don't seem to match up with the levels that were found in his blood when he finally got to the hospital and had his autopsy. there is the rub, and that's what the prosecution and defense
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were trying to explain away today. >> what about the other issue where the defense is trying to say, well, you know, the propose follow may have been whatever it was but michael jackson went and took a lorazepam -- i'm sorry if i'm saying it wrong -- another medication and that vanishes from your blood quickly and that could have been the toks imcombo that killed him instead of dr. murray's propofol. >> yeah, that's exactly right. and there could be something to that. imagine the picture that you sort of imagine in the room. he's in the bed, he has an iv that's actually in his leg somewhere, an intravenous contractor. they say the propofol he was given wore off they say he may have gotten up out of bed, taken some of these other injections, injected more propofol in his blood and went back to sleep which according to the defense he immediately died upon doing that. that led to his immediate death.
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that's sort of the picture they're portraying. but you're absolutely right. the other medications, the antianxiety medications, lorazepam, xanax, they would be more of an additive, have a more significant effect. >> thank you, sanjay, so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we'll see what happens. still "outfront," a rare inthor view with billionaire bill gates and silvio as in berlusconi sings amore to bungabunga, seriously.
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at the g-20 meeting of world leaders. becky, what is the richest man doing there? >> well, he's a seat at the top table, erin. trying to convince world leaders despite the economic crisis, the
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bill gates is the richest man in america. worth $59 billion. he's also the most generous person on the planet pledging to give away $28 billion. cnn's becky anderson caught up with him in cannes, france. at the g-20 meeting of world leaders. becky, what is the richest man doing there? >> well, he's a seat at the top table, erin. trying to convince world leaders despite the economic crisis, the world economic crisis, they should not stop giving. and when i say that, what he's trying to do is convince them they have to pony up on the commitments that they have made
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to the developing world. have a listen to this. >> past view of aid was simply buying friendship from some dictators as part of the cold war. today you should think of the u.s. of being a biggest supporter of aids drugs so a mother can raise her children. buying bed net which cut malaria deaths by 20%, will cut it a lot more. financing agriculture development so that the women who have these small farms are able to grow enough food to have nutrition for their kids and raise a little money to send their kids to school. >> and he also talked today about new revenue streams and i know this is something you've been interested in. this robin tax or tax on financial transactions. the deal is, could you ever do