with this report and start challenging the chinese and russians to come along and really put tough sanctions that hurt iran economically. that's how we'll change the evasion. >> mr. chairman, appreciate your time. that's all for us. see you back here at this time tomorrow night. erin burnett up front starts right now. thanks, john. we're in the front line with s.e.a.l. team 6, the most elite team in the world's most elite fighting force, they killed osama bin laden. an ex-s.e.a.l. team 6 member comes out front. and then -- is this on? oh, yeah. we can't resist telling you about the conversation french president nicolas sarkozy and barack obama didn't want to you hear. and the bottom line on herman cain. he's fighting back big time on new accusations of sexual harassment. his campaign comes out front. let's go.

i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, herman cain. the gop frontrunner fighting back against allegations of sexual harassment. >> i absolutely reject, they simply didn't happen. they simply did not happen. >> four women have now accused of gop candidate of inappropriate behavior and we now know the identity of two. just hours ago, we learned more about another accuser, her name is karen, director of communications at the treasury department and according to a friend, she called cain a quote/unquote monster. this is the woman whose lawyer told the nation on friday that his client did not want to identify herself and did not want to divulge any details about the alleged encounter. but obviously she is saying now

that she would do so perhaps with other people in a press conference. unofficial adviser to herman cain's campaign, appreciate you taking the time to come out and talk about this tonight. i just want to ask you this, have you at the campaign had the conversation middle of the night, everyone's eyes are blood shot where you say, her man, have you put everything on the table, have you told us everything absolutely everything kind of a come to jesus moment?, have you told us everything absolutely everything kind of a come to jesus moment? >> i've not had that conversation with herman. i'm certain that others within the campaign have had that conversation with him. probably before the campaign even got kicked off. but i think what a wonderful moment. it's strange to say this on a day like today, but i'm very proud to be an american. here you have an african-american man from the south, the grandson -- grew up in segregation, the grandson or

great grandson of slaves. being accused of not sexual harassment, he's accused of sexual molestation. he's accused of assault or at least it's right on the border of assault. and it's only a few decades ago that in many parts of the south a black man that is accused of something like that would be tried in the streets and be convicted on a tree. and nevertheless, today he was defended quite articulately by mr. linn, i believe his name is, a prominent southern white southern attorney. that imagery was a powerful imagery and that imagery is the imamiri of the unification that herman cain brings this campaign. and i must tell that you there are a lot of folk within the elite, conservatives and liberals, that are terrified of that image in this campaign.

>> let me ask you this, though, because when you talk about the image of hanging of the tree, that's an i incredibly upsetting image to a lot of people are you are you going so far as to say this truly is that racially motivated? >> i will say this, look. first of all, erin, you probably know my history and my father's history. we don't play the race card. that's not our game. we tend take-to-take the race card off the table when it is unfairly used. take the race card off the table when it is unfairly used.take the race card off the table when it is unfairly used. but having said that, we have to be a fool to deny 200 years of history in our country. and one of the most powerful stereotypes that unfortunately this whole situation conjures up is the stereotype of a black-skinned, black man being overly sexed and sexually going after or having some sexual hung forea white woman. now, what i think is interesting, though, is that mr.

cain's character assassins and that's what i call them, including ms. bial eventek, the underestimate the decency of the american people. they don't realize that what i saw on that stage today is a symbol of america turning the page largely on the question of race within our country. >> i hear you on that point. and i think that's one of the reasons people applaud the herman cain campaign in terms of his becoming a candidate at all. but when you say that we can't get beyond the whole issue of a black male and white woman, is it perhaps that these women coming forward in this modern time proof that we are beyond that, that this isn't about the hyper sexualized black male, it's about a woman telling her side of the story and a mantling his and that it isn't about race at all? because it doesn't sound like you're making it about race. >> well, what i am saying is this. i'm saying the way that the media is treating this case,

there is a pi poi pock accuracy and double standard vis-a-vis bill clinton who had alleged charges of not making people feel uncomfortable, but things such as rape and john edwards, the whole john edwards issue had to be broken not by the establishment mainstream media, but by the "national enquirer." so there certainly is a double standard and there is a scrutiny that i would argue that black conservatives like justice thomas, like herman cain, are under that others are not under. there's no question that the type of rallying that the black liberal establishment, the race mongers that tend to defense all types of individuals including criminals, that they did not rally to herman cain's defense. there's hypocrisy there. there is a willingness for certain liberals on another

network to cast dispersions at herman cain at his intelligence. this idiot bashir saying he doesn't know how to spell iraq. these kinds of things are hypocritical. >> and i don't know what you're referring to there at all. but i do want to say there was one thing you said there that -- the john edwards point is interesting and you have a point about how that happened. but you've known herman cain for just a few years. how do you know that this didn't happen, how can you come on so dramatically here and defend him when by at least the information i have, you didn't know him well at the time these allegations happened. >> that's fair. i've known of herman cain and met him over a ten year period. but i've only personally gotten to know him for over the last few years. and you're right, there is no question you were not there, i was not there, 99.999% of all americans or people on the planet don't know exactly what occurred will.

so we can only look at what it before us and make our judgment. and if you look at ms. bial event k's press conference and you look at her weird and bizarre behavior of not only her, but of gloria all-red, and i know glor yarks i like gloria personal personally, but she's the poster -- >> do you? >> i like americpersonally. i don't like the way she pursues her profession. i think she's the poster child for why we need dramatic radical tort reform and things like loser pays in these tort cases. but, no, i know her personally. but i also know her game. and i don't like her game. but doing an analysis of ms. bialek's statement and how she made her statement and gloria allred saying this is a stimulus package and -- >> i agree, i thought that was distasteful. >> and then bialek saying she went home to her boyfriend, but

she he didn't it he will htell details. >> i also thought that was unusual that she would have shared with someone. but then i started thinking about experiences i've had or women i know have had and sexual harassment at work parties, it's common, women often do feel guilty or awkward in, a sense it's sort of like how the race issue is for you, which is it's there but not there. for a lot of women i think the sexism issue is there but not there. is that something you can understand? >> i can definitely understand it and more than understand it, i empathize with it. and what i say, and i want to be consistent here, the way that i address those who put the race card on the issue unfairly and how it undermines legitimate cases and examples of racism, how it undermines and disresp t disrespects those ancestors of ours that truly had to overcome

racism, say that for sexual harassment, as well. when you have a fraudulent charge, and let me say i believe these are fraudulent charges. if i was herman, i'll talk to herman later tonight oorks , i' to suggest that he sue her for defamation of his character. i think she's a fake and fraud. but if she is a fake, it does a terrible disservice to real victims of zeksz all harassment, it does a terrible disservice to women out there that really are victims. >> i would agree. and if tends up being true, i know that hopefully you will come on and amend some of your statements. sg . >> you better believe it. there thank you for your frank interview. coming up, we'll bring in penny and jamal to talk about what we just heard. penny had a comment on mr. cain today and sylvie on berlusconi, a journalist who has followed the story comes out front, this

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interesting interview with the adviser to herman cain. let's bring in president of the conservative group concerned women for america and jamal simmonss. penny, what did you think of what nigel had to say? >> i think he did a good job to express his opinion, but i wanted to say that concerned women for america was very clear in 1996 during the bill clinton scandal when he was having sex with a 21-year-old intern that character counts. and we've got to be consistent today again delivering that message. character counts. we want to hear all the facts and this is an important conversation to have. now we're at four women. if they're lying like your earlier guest said, then i agree, i think herman cain should sue them and we'll see what comes out on discovery.

i think that we need to get to the bottom of this. the country needs a strong leader that doesn't just have business acumen, but also has a good moral compass and good judgment. >> jamal, what do you think about this whole race issue? do you think it is an issue here, or do you think that's unfair? >> you know, i like nyger. but i think his statements were just ridiculous. to try to argue that this is a moment of some great racial progress is baffling to me. at the same time, the idea by the herman cain camp or any of the people affiliated with him that they want to inject race into this conversation, when herman cain himself said racism in this country today doesn't hold anybody back in a big way, that was herman cain's position. so for him to now be in a tough

spot and to claim that race is the issue, those who are aligned with him, they should take cain's position on this. so we could argue there are issues about an and what's appropriate in the workplace, there are issues about gender politics at play here. all sorts of things. but race just does not seem to be one of them for me. >> it was interesting how he brought in the whole issue of what he said the hyper sexualized black male, the issue in american history, which it is something interesting to think about. penny, do you think there's anything at all to that? it seems like it's all of a sudden to bring it on the table as opposed to saying it all the way along. >> i don't know how african americans feel about this, but i do know and i do believe that socially conservative african-americans and women conservatives have a harder time

vee at mainstream media than others. but it doesn't mean we get to make it easy for them. it doesn't mean that our character doesn't get questions just like everyone else. and when we make a miss take, we have to talk about it. the other point i wanted for say, i'm not sure -- i don't believe it's fair to equate justice thomas' situation with herman cain's situation. let's remember there was only one anita hill and anita hill had followed justice thomas for years from job to job to job and then decided years later maybe there's some similarity there to file a complaint. but that's where it ends. i just don't believe that these are -- i don't believe these are the same situation and i think it's very disrespectful to justice thomas to equate the two. >> thanks very much. we appreciate both of your taking the time and weighing in on this. well it may be getting lost in the herman cain saga, but it is election day and voters across the country are casting ballots are really important

issues. in ohio, voters deciding whether or not to restrict the bargaining rights of public union workers and there's a fascinating ballot initiative in mississippi that if passed would define life as beginning at conception. john avalon is joining us and tom foreman. tom, mch. voters deciding whether to amendment the constitution of the say the to redefine when life begins. what's the bottom line? >> the about the line is this is stirring up a lot of tough feelings. what they would define here is that a person begins the moment stirring up a lot of tough feelings. what they would define here is that a person begins the moment an egg is fertilized. it doesn't whether it's rape, incest, whether the mother is in daer danger. at that point, all forms of abortion would become illegal. under this law, there's the question of what do you do with the eggs that are not being used to continue the pregnancy. so a lot of complications and it

has fired up a lot of debate down there, including among many conservative christians, some of whom say this is actually the kind of end run that is needed around roe/wade and others say this is unreasonable. >> it's fascinating. john, it does challenge roe v wade. what would it mean nationally? >> nationally it would send a signal that this attempt to kick this to the supreme court ultimately was fully in effect. overnight it would ban abortion or attempt to ban abortions in mississippi. but as tom said, this is controversial not just in the polling between men and women, democrats and republican, but even some right to life groups and the local cath thick bishop said they're opposed to abortion, but this is too extreme.thick bishop said they're opposed to abortion, but this is too extreme.

so this is a real cliffhanger. >> this is where you get your base. tom, let me ask you about ohio. this is a big deal for unions and their benefits. what's the bottom line on that? >> the mississippi vote will be about 8:00. in ohio, the votes should start coming in around the polls closing at 7:30. in the ohio ballot, issue number 2, they're talking about collective g collective bargaining. the republican governor there signed a new law which takes away a lot of collect of it bargaining rights from 350,000 workers in the state, police, firemen, teachers. basically says here are the rules of what you'll be compensated with, how your retirement will work, how your health care will work. even when or not you get promoted based on seniority. the governor says this is what you need to be competitive. the unions have pushed in really hard saying this can't be the case. a lot of money, millions and millions of dollars on both sides pushing this issue trying to decide it and as you know, obviously it's a big issue not

just for ohio, but for the power of unions in the country as we head into the presidential election. >> which we are seeing fought state by state. >> that's exactly right. and this ballot initiative really is seen as a bellwether for 2012. because ohio always a critical swing state. this election is a test of whether unions can get their troops out, whether the ground game is in place where unions can connect their cause with moderates in the middle class, polls show that this measure is unpopular. what john kasich did modeled largely on what scott walker tried in wisconsin. supporters say it's a necessary reform to rein in budgets. opponents say it ends up undercutting unions. but you have a hard time winning the presidency without winning ohio. and this is the test of the ground game on either side. >> thank so much to both of you. we appreciate it. we're watching it. out front ahead, s.e.a.l. team 6, the force that took out bin laden, a former member of the

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now a story we can't resist. a private conversation at the g-20 summit between president obama and french president nicolas sarkozy was overheard by a group of journalists when the

two leaders didn't realize their mikes were still on. according to the journalist who heard it, the conversation went like this. sarkozy. i cannot bear netanyahu. he's a liar. obama, you're fed up with him, but i have to deal with him even more often than you. okay. the part we can't resist is that they actually thought this conversation would be private. if you are the president of a country, any country, the microphone is always so just because people hope they can, well, hear you saying things like that. don't believe us some here's a look back at some of our favorite political open mike moments. >> i'm pleased to tell you today that legislation that will outlaw russia forever, we begin bombing in five minutes. >> so stick it up your -- >> why would he do that? >> he's a jackass.

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we start the second half of our show with stories we care

about. herman cain fighting back against allegations of sexual harassment. a friend and unofficial adviser came out front, me some very fiery comments about race. >> he's accused of sexual molestation. he's accused of assault or at least it's right on the border of assault. and it's only a few decades ago that in many parts of the south a black man accused of something like that would be tried in the streets and be convicted on a tree. >> he said the fact that cain was able to defend himself today shows progress. he also said he'll talk to cain tonight and suggest that he sue his accuser for defamation. number two, iran has mastered nuclear weapon cape acts according to a report released today. it does not say hoe clou iran is to having a nuclear bomb. israel has threatened to attack iran based on the findings in

this report. an expert who writes about nuclear arms told us an israeli attack might only drive the development further ground ground. number three, an investigation found gross mismanagement it at the dover airport. some remains of u.s. troops were lost, in other cases remains were shipped in cardboard pboks. the majority of those killed returns through the air force ways. number four, one of the most highly anticipated video games of the year modern warfare 3 went on sale today. our friends in pakistan got to love that. video game analysts said they expect as many as 20 million copies to be sold by the end of of the year. that means the game has the potential of breaking an entertainment industry record. it's going up against another first person war game, battlefield 3. i'm familiar with none of them. it's been 95 days since the u.s.

lost its top credit rating. we need to do more to get it back. in the days after 9/11, president george w. bush made osama bin laden one of the most wanted men in the world. >> i want justice. and there's an old poster out west as i recall that said wanted dead oral live. >> nearly ten years later, his capture was the culmination of one of the most intense man huntes in history. >> can i report to the american people and the world that the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda and a terrorist responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children. >> the man who carried out the mission known as s.e.a.l. team 6, the world's most elite fighting force. chuck is a former member and says he spoke to the men that night. he's out front tonight with their story in a new book out today called s.e.a.l. target

geronimo. wonderful to see you and i appreciate you taking the time. you came out with this book, you've talked to the s.e.a.l.s. they're not supposed to talk. today colonel tim nye said this book is a fabrication, you being he, describes events that are factually incorrect. the obama administration is taking on you on this. >> good to them. >> did you make anything up? >> you know, my sources are bootses on the ground and people who weren't on the ground but know what happened. and if it's a compare story situation, which administration story am i supposed to believe? the 45 in firefight, the crashed helicopter? my sources were the guys there and doing it. >> the 45 minute firefight was the official story the american people were told the day after. you're saying it was 90 seconds which is amazing. and there are other differences. and you say the men came in from

the roof rather than the ground. but the differences as i see them are not enough to show somes massive conspiracy to cover up. >> i don't think it's a cover up. i think what happened is after the operation, the president made his statement and it should have ended there. whether or not it was appropriate for national security reasons to come out and admit the operation, that's another thing. he made a statement, that was great and it should have ended there. but the information started to leak from politicians of every stripe who were happy to put forward everything they knew which was fragmentary and i incomplete and incorrect. >> so how many did you talk to who were there? >> digging into this, i had to deacon flikt stories of guys on the ground, i had to deacon flikt stories being fed to me that just weren't making any sense. for example, the assertion helicopter crashes on insertion. . we plan for something like that. you ground fire, that could

happen. what would happen in that case, though, why wouldn't the second helicopter land on the principal piece of real estate at the top of the building, why would it divert outside a 20-foot wall and put the guys out? that was one of the first alarm bells that went off in my head. totally wrong. so i think what happened is the administration lost control of this story, then clachl eclampe down on it, leaving he's half facts out there and they metastasized into this story of a ground up assault where a man was shot in his bedroom after 45 minute operation. that's not what happened. >> and as you say from what you know from the s.e.a.l.s, it took 90 secondses. you talk about two s.e.a.l.s going into osama bin laden's bed room, he reached for his weapon, they shot him immediately. how did they feel when they did that, what did they tell you? >> i don't think feeling really had much to do with it. these guys go in -- when they go in, they are just on in the moment, in the second. they have to be because that's what it takes to survive in

these situations. the 90 seconds that i've computed this operation took and from what my information is, that's more in keep to go what a s.e.a.l. team 6 operation is. you hit them hard and fast and it's over before they can react. >> the stealth hawk was the helicopter used. systems went down a million to one chance. >> absolutely. >> they tried to destroy most of it. but you report in here, and i wanted to ask you about this because this is really important, that the pakistanis were so mad that they auctioned off the remains to the chinese so that they could seat technology and then let the iranians and north koreans see it. >> absolutely. just a little victory lap. they were so incensed by this operation. the tail rutter was left. that in itself is a one in a million chance. they showed it off, they allowed material samples to be taken, measurements. they did everything they could. >> well, that is a terrible

thing. thank you very much, appreciate your coming in. a fascinating book. reads like a thriller novel that it is. i guess we all wish in another life we were a s.e.a.l. thanks again. >> my pleasure. thank you. after a crucial vote, berlusconi said he'll step down after italy's next budget is approved. we'll see. but berlusconi's resignation is making headlines around the world. and we've taken a few shots at berlusconi here as you know, we he have fun with him, but in the face of a serious issue, the crushing debt of italy that could bring down europe, a growing number of italian officials have called for the billionaire to vee resign. one person who saw it all coming states her ghcase in this week' "time" magazine online. i asked her just how bad it is. >> they are worse than what you ever think because this guy was elected three times when he was last elected 2006, the testify

sit and the debt was 106% of the gdp. today after four years and a half of his government, it's 120% of the gdp. and the worst in this is that the economy is not going to get better. and he's not doing anything. he lost any kind of credibility, he's not doing anything. >> does it matter who runs the country and do you take this offer to resign seriously? >> he promised to resign. he didn't say he would resign. what he will try to do in the next 20 days to approve the package of austerity measures and then try to orchestration who will govern after him. what he's trying to do is negotiate and put one of his friends to govern on his behalf. so he would be manipulating him from behind. >> so a change of name, but not a change of policy. >> this is what he wants, but is that what the parliament wants? i don't think so. i think berlusconi's era is over.

>> so italian sentiment. he said i'll step asided if that means saving the euro. this whole issue is a matter of debate, but what do the italians think, do they want to stay in the eu? >> they want to stay because if they step out, the country will collapse. they know that. they know inside the euro, somebody will bail them out. as soon as berlusconi announced three days ago gee that he might go away, the stock market in milan went up.that he might go away, the stock market in milan went up. then he said i'm not sure and it went down. that means that we're too sensitive to berlusconi. even the markets are wishing for him to go away. usually the markets react negatively to any government change. not in this case. everybody's fed up and they don't trust him, they don't love him, but they want him gone. >> thank you so much. appreciate your taking the time to come in. >> thank you for having me. so now let's check in with anderson cooper with a look at what's up on ac 360.

>> syrian president agreed to end the bloody crackdown in this country to pull troops from the streets. this is what happened on monday. killing continues. the u.n. says more than 3500 people have now died across syria since protests started. how many more is hard to tell. journalists are not allowed in. we'll speak with one brave journalist who did gain access. you'll see her undercovering reporting. also an alleged child sex scandal rippling through a top football program. jerry sandusky at penn state accused of raping young boys. joe paterno canceled his weekly news conference and two top university officials have already resigned. we'll untangle who knew what and when and how it could have been

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we do the same thing every time, every night at this time. we reach out to our sources around the word and tonight we begin in thailand. the flooding still devastating the country. 500 people have died. there is no relief in sight. liz traveled with thailand's prime minister to some of the hardest hit areas and what did you see? >> what we saw is that the flood disaster still continues for thailand. we traveled to the northern industrial zone where the damage has been very heavy on business, damage that has rippled throughout the global economy because many multinational companies are dependent on part has come from thailand. as thailand tries to drain the floodwaters from these areas, they must course south and they're headed toward the country's capital. >> thank you very much. and now to atlanta where cnn's jacqui jeras is watching the

approach ofvesta. it's a guy and asteroid hurdling towards earth. should we be worried? >> no, it's sort of like getting an inside pitch in baseball where it's a little too close for comfort, but it won't hit you directly. it won't hit the earth or the moon, but it will get within about 200,000 miles away and that will give scientists a really good chance to observe it with their radar telescopes. you can observe it? unfortunately, probably not. at least not with the naked eye. you have to have a really good telescope. beth chance best chance is in the northern atmosphere as it will head up over the north over the top of the earth and the moon. >> glad we're safe. three days after a sex scandal rocks campus of penn state, happy valley continues to be unpleasant.

rumors are swirling that joe paterno may be forced to step down after 46 years as the university canceled his weekly press conference. >> you have a lot of good questions and i'd like to answer them, but i can't do it now. >> jerry sandusky was arrested saturday and charged with seven counts of rape. the grad student told paterno about an incident he witnessed in 2002. coach paterno reported to his boss. nothing happened. and pressure now continues to moubts on everyone involved. kip company authored the book touched the jerry sandusky story in 2001 and he's out front with us tonight. we really appreciate your taking the time to come out. you met him in 1978. you've known him obviously a long time. and you helped write his life story. how would you describe the man you knew? >> i've known jerry for a long time as you said. and jerry was a very trendily person toward all of us involved in football. he was the kind of person that

the players that he coached and the managers that were with him were all -- they just loved him. he was a very good person to us. he knew football, and he knows football inside and out. but he knows how to -- at the time, you know, he knew how to good character and everything for us. and taught us a lot. and i just always looked up to him as a very nice, very good person. >> did you -- there's obviously allegations that he abused boy that he met through his charity, which was called second mile. there's now been several -- more than several -- boys that have come forward, as young as 8. did you ever see him interacting with young boys at all? whether you saw it in a sinister way or normal way? >> i have seen him with kids from second mile over the years, back in the '80s and early '90s just seeing them in general, but nothing in the terms that you're

asking about. i always saw him as being a guy that wanted to give these kids a chance to have a prosperous life and a chance at havinging a prosperous life. many, many of these kids came from families with single parent or parents that didn't care in the world about them. and he took them on, and that's what the second mile was about. but nothing that i see in the allegations and such. >> fits with that. when he called you in march, that's when the allegation first surfaced. what did he say to you then? >> he said really was he wanted to apologize to me for things that i might read and hear. and i did already hear things or, you know, the news and read the things. i just told him that he's my friend and i support him, and i didn't know of else to say at

the time because it was such a shocker. and then the things that are going on now are even more of a shocker. but at that time i told him i support him as a friend and that i don't know -- i can't be a judge to him. i can only support him in that fashion. and that was basically it. >> right. what would happen if at this point it turns out that all of this is true, that it is proven to be so, this is a man you've known for a long time, you're speaking highly of him. what do you do as a human be? do you say this guy is still a friend or are you just utterly disgusted? >> well, i certainly don't condone actions like that. i feel for kids like that. i coach youth baseball. so i certainly feel for kids in that and i wouldn't want to see this happen to anybody, but it's a very fine line because i don't know how i would take it. i would try to support him as a

friend and wish him -- he could get if that was the case. >> kip, thank you -- >> i would let it play out in the courts is all i can say at the moment. it just has to play out in the courts. >> thank you very much for coming on and sharing your thoughts with us. we appreciate it, kip. >> okay, erin, thank you very much. >> still out front, a former cia agent comes out to talk about her redemption, about getting her citizenship taken away from her. formation. i trade on tradearchitect. this is web-based trading, re-visualized. streaming, real-time quotes. earnings analysis. probability analysis: that's what opportunity looks like. it's all visual. intuitive. and it's available free, wherever the web is. this is how trade strategies are built. tradearchitect. only from td ameritrade. welcome to better trade commission free for 60 days when you open an account. why did we build a 556 horsepower luxury car

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it's like a movie. a girl moves to america from lebanon, dreams the american dream, becomes an undercover cia agent with the highest security clearances. then is accused of selling out her country to tris. she is busted, but finally redeemed. her book "uncompromised" was released today. and she joins us now. it's so great to see you. it does read like a movie. but let's start from the beginning. you came to the united states from lebanon with your family when you were a teenager. >> correct. >> how did you feel then about coming to the u.s.? were you happy, looking forward to it? >> the u.s. was a strange land for me. i was excited to come here because i heard all with the freedom, i've heard about the democracy. >> so you come and you get this dream. it's not like you just came and said, okay, i'm going to buy a house and have a car. you came and said, i want to go into the cia. how in the world did you have that goal and get there?

>> well, initially when i first came here, i wanted to get my education with the idea of going back to lebanon perhaps living with that education and having a better life than the life that i had. and after staying in the states, i fell in love with the country. and it was very easy to fall in love with this country, the greatest nation on the planet. and after that, i wanted to give back to the country that took me in, my adopted country, and i wanted to serve. so i initially applied for the fbi and i worked with them for a while and worked a lot with the cia overseas and then transferred to the cia. >> and you worked in a lot of cases there. i want to ask you that. the uss cole in yemen. let me ask you where thins went really wrong for you. one thing that you did do, right, was pay an american man to get married because you wanted citizenship? >> well, what i did is i wanted to pay an american man to help me reduce my tuition. and that was my problem at the

time. and i wasn't aware of my other option, the political asylum given the war in lebanon. i was eligible to apply for political asylum, but i wasn't aware of that option. >> and that was one thing that came as part of this whole situatiowhen you were accused of using an fbi computer illegally. huh a brother-in-law who prosecutors say was a sympathizer of what the u.s. believes was a terrorist group hezbollah in lebanon. he was being investigated. they said you went in the computer and got information and told him about it. then they also called you out for the marriage. tell me what happened. did you ever do that? >> i absolutely did not. you see that the director of the cia, the attorney general and also the secretary for homeland security have signed a memo to grant me back my u.s. person status. >> when you look at all the things you were involved with, which one do you look back and say i'm most proud of that. >> thne