character and integrity of a candidate running for president should come under a microscope with facts. not accusations. >> well, mr. cain, you're very welcome come on this show any time and tell your side of the story or, indeed, take lie detector test, live why not? that is all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts now. we begin tonight keeping them honest. herman cain stepped up to deny any and all sexual harassment allegations against him by any and every accuser, period. none of it happened, he says, period. what's more, he says he has no memory at all of sharon bialek, the woman who came forward yesterday and accused him of groping her while offering her a job if she let him go further. he called her a troubled woman brought forth by the democratic machine, unquote. his lawyer this evening attacking bialek. ,at the same time mr. cain saying he doesn't remember her. >> i tried to remember if i

recognized her, and i didn't. i tried to remember if i remembered that name, and i didn't. the charges and the accusations i absolutely reject. they simply didn't happen. they simply did not happen. >> so it did not happen, and he doesn't remember her. both statements categorical. the second is simple to check. bialek claims cain took her to dinner and upgraded her hotel room. there are credit card statements, no doubt, expense reports, hotel phone record. you can bet that every news organization, ours included, is doing what it can to find the facts. even as herman cain denied knowing sharon bialek, his initial accuser came forward. karen kraushaar. one of two women who filed complaints and received monetary settlements from the national

restaurant association. she worked at the treasury department, a career civil servant and registered republican, though she did give $250 to the democratic national commit in 2009. today, cain said he did remember her and identified her as the only woman he remembers any kind of encounter with, one he calls totally innocent. >> i can only recall one thing that i was aware of that was called sexual harassment. the one thing that i remember that i remembered during the day when all of this broke loose is that one day in my office at the national restaurant association, i was standing next to ms. kraushaar and i gestured, standing near her like this, "you're the same height as my wife because my wife comes up to my chin." that was the one gesture that i remember.

>> herman cain painting a very g-rated encounter with kraushaar and adding her allegations were found baseless and the money paid her was a part of a termination agreement, not some kind of claim settlement. >> when the firestorm started a week ago monday, i was presented with the accusation of some settlement was made. settlement to me means that there were legal implications. later during that same day, i then recall after all those years, that there was an agreement. that's what businesses sign with employees who are departing the company. they call it an agreement. settlement implies legal implications. all of the potential legal implications or ramifications or accusations were found to be baseless. >> keeping them honest, we don't know whether the restaurant association's investigation found the allegations baseless or not. ms. kraushaar's attorney says his client's claims had merit, in his words, of multiple incidents over multiple days

that constituted sexual harassment, unquote. clearly, someone is not telling the truth, mr. cain or his multiple accusers. as a gop strategist said today, this isn't just a he said/she said story, this is a he said/she said/she said and she said story. as herman cain was denying everything today, a friend of the other woman who settled with the nra spoke out. she said that her friend told her that the sharon bialek's encounter came that it was well known that cain behaved badly. that accuser is staying anonymous. two have publicly come forward. herman cain hinted that there may be other allegations by other accusers. he said any and all of them would be untrue. he said he'd be willing to take a polygraph test while saying in the same breath, he won't. >> as distasteful as it might be, would you be willing to do a lie detector test to prove your honesty in something like this?

>> yes. >> go ahead. >> yes, i absolutely would, but i'm not going to do that unless i have a good reason to do that. >> let's bring in our political panel. gloria borger who has been breaking news almost daily. also political contributor maria cardona, who says she's a friend of accuser karen kraushaar. and ari fleischer from the bush administration. you can follow him on twitter @arifleischer. maria, you know this woman, karen kraushaar. what did she tell you about mr. cain? >> she didn't go into the allegations, anderson, because clearly she didn't want to relive this as she has had to now on an hourly basis, but she did say something very similar to what joel said, which was that they were sexual harassment gestures and they happened repeatedly. what i can tell you is that when i hired her at the i.n.s. -- >> you hired this woman? >> correct. i hired her when i was

communications director at the i.n.s., in the last two years of the clinton administration. and she came to the i.n.s. directly from the national restaurant association. and what she told me recently -- i was not aware of this back at the time. i know that she's always been very grateful to me for having hired her at the time. she's told me recently, she said, maria, now you know why i have been so grateful to you all this time for hiring me when you did at the i.n.s. because you have saved me from this monster. clearly, she was talking about mr. cain and everything she endured when working there. >> she described him as what? what was the word? >> she said, you have saved me from this monster, indicating everything that she had to endure while she was working with mr. cain at the national restaurant association. >> she's clearly saying it is more than just this incident that mr. cain recounted of comparing her height to his wife's height? >> absolutely. no doubt about that, that what she is saying is that a lot more

occurred. >> maria, the cain campaign sent out a message this morning entitled "who is karen bialek?" that's the other woman who made the accusation yesterday. they said, quote, as ms. sharon bialek has placed herself in the public spotlight through making patently false allegations against mr. cain, it is only fair to compare her track record alongside mr. cain's. then they list her debts and attacking her as an accuser. is this something that karen kraushaar was worried about and wanted to stay anonymous? >> i think that's one reason, anderson. but i think that anybody who understands these things, not wanting to come out publicly, first of all, you don't want to relive a nightmare situation that happened a long time ago. secondly, she is concerned about her personal safety, and that of her family. but thirdly, she doesn't want to go through this because she is a classy, professional individual. she doesn't want to be, if she can avoid it, she doesn't want to be at a microphone talking about lurid gestures that she

says happened when she worked for mr. cain at the national restaurant association. i think all of those things put together, any woman can understand why she wouldn't want to come out publicly to talk about this. >> has she told you what she's lurid gestures were? >> she was not -- she did not go into detail with me, anderson, again because -- and i didn't want to make her relive this because she has to now repeatedly. >> gloria, herman cain said today that accusations were investigated and found to be baseless. we know there were payouts. any evidence that he was somehow cleared, as he indicated? >> no. in fact, when the national restaurant association issued a statement last week, they did not make any results of the internal investigation. so we really don't know. i think mr. cain could really clear this up if he wanted to by saying to his former employers there and to the board there, look, release my employment

records. let it be known that when you did your own internal investigation this was cleared, and i waive my confidentiality. so he's been saying it's baseless. and that's, i think, anderson, quite frankly, why you see these women coming out because they feel that it impugns their own integrity when he says these you may already have an enlarged prostate. much and -- is there really a distinction between a settlement and an agreement? >> well, i think in these women's minds there certainly isn't. long till they start seeing changes? many men will see changes within two weeks.

wasn't going to get the promotion she thought she should have gotten and she felt it was because of this sexual harassment issue and that they laid out some options in front of her. one of them was go away, and we sort of acknowledge what's happened to you, but here's some money and you should leave the national restaurant association. that's was the option that she ended up taking. but they say -- these women would say this is not severance pay in any way, shape or form. this is settlement for sexual harassment claims. >> ari, last week, he pointed fingers at rick perry's campaign. i want you to take a listen to something he said today. >> nine days ago, the media started to beat me up, covering anonymous accusers. the fact is these anonymous

allegations are false and now the democrat machine in america has brought forth a troubled woman to make false accusations, statements, many of which exceed common sense. and they certainly exceed the standards of decency in america. >> what do you make of his stand now, the idea that this is a democratic machine plot? >> well, i don't see any it's a. he said/she said, then we have two shes who are on the record and put their name out there and have said it, two of whom are anonymous. that's difficult to defense against anonymous allegations. but there are two who have taken

that courageous step. none of us will know the truth, i suspect, unless these investigators can poke hole in the stories or they find someone that corroborates it. i don't know how. it's almost a helpless feeling. it's sad that politics has come to this point for him. but i also notice that today he denied it, he denied it on the record, he was unwavering and his campaign put out a tweet just before your show aired. they raised almost a million dollars since this news conference today. he clearly has a lot of people who still believe in him and are still dedicated to herman cain. >> gloria, do you think this news conference or press conference, do you think it helped him? because as ari pointed out, and rightly so, he's saying that there's no ifs, ands or buts here. it's either they're completely wrong or he is. >> i think it's interesting that he's raised so much money since his press conference. it's clear people are getting dug in. the people who believe him believe him and the people who

don't don't. i think what karen kraushaar is thinking about doing is getting all these women together in a joint press conference with their attorneys so they can talk exactly about what happe don't sh more sleepless nights. don't let urgency and frequency ruin your days. it there. gloria, maria, ari, thank you very much. we're on google plus. we hope you add us to your circles. and we're on facebook, follow me on twitter as well @andersoncooper. i'll be tweeting tonight. up next, syria's lies. caught on camera, new video showing the fighting far from over. we're keeping them honest. also crime and punishment. the sex abuse scandal rocking penn state's football program. a former defensive coordinator,

accused of raping boys. two former officials accused of not notifying police about it. will joe paterno be the next to resign? a live report ahead. first, let's check in with isha. >> a new twist tonight in the "news of the world" phone hacking scandal. a new report says the now-defunct tabloid hired a private eye to spy on prince william and other high-profile people. ...was it something big? ...or something small? ...something old? ...or something new? ...or maybe, just maybe... it's something you haven't seen yet.

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graphic, i want to warn you. the dead literally piling up in homs and elsewhere. last week the regime, which all along blamed the uprising on outsider, on criminal elements, on radical sunni iraqis, you name it, finally admitted it was indeed killing ordinary civilians by promising to stop. the dictaror, bashar al assad, agreed to stop targeting protesters and release political prisoner. here he is praying on sunday to mark the hajj, the beginning of the pilgrimage to mecca. while he was praying on his knees, his troops and snipers were preying on protesters. this is precisely what assad promised just days ago not to do. the regime is blaming the current violence on america, by the way.

in the days since he made his pledge, scores have died. as always, these videos come to us from youtube. we can't independently confirm what you're seeing because syrian officials don't let us see for ourselves. in a moment, you'll hear from a western journalist who managed to sneak into syria. it exposed the official government for what it truly is. take a look at this interview from back in august. >> the government is not running against the civilians. these civilians are our own people. we are there to protect them. >> the government is killing them. >> running against the terrorist armed groups. >> what terrorist armed groups? who are they? name them. >> the terrorist armed groups. >> who are they? >> those who have killed so far 500 officials and soldiers of our army and police officers and police soldiers and security forces. >> again, you haven't named who these unnamed mysterious armed terrorists are. >> they are the outcomes of the american, british invasion of iraq, anderson. they're the brother muslim

military wing. the best thing about taking prosvent is restrictive government. it seems incomprehensible that all of a sudden you have thousands of salafists who are calling for the overthrow of the government. are you denying that there were peaceful protests -- that there are peaceful protesters who have legitimate gripes, who have legitimate demands for basic dignity and freedom? >> the government allowed peaceful demonstrations to take to the street and they are protected by the police -- >> as you can imagine, that was the first and last time that syria's ambassador agreed to come on the program. we'd like to ask him what he

makes of this. troop on the streets of homs. residents there in today's "new york times" describing harrowing scenes of abandoned streets and relentless gunfire, the sound of promises being broken, perhaps. this is where promises are broken all the time. this is hamza taken, tortured, mutilated even as they were blaming it on outsiders. he was just a teenaged boy. this is where bystanders are reduced to human cargo. beaten, bloodied, stuffed into a car trunk, to be taken away and tortured and killed. this is what the regime promised to stop and this is how they're breaking that promise. the regime does all of it, all it can, to keep western eyes from seeing these atrocities. every once in a while, a journalist manages to sneak in. a reporter for pbs' "frontline" spent two weeks inside syria this summer. i spoke to her earlier. how were you able to get into syria?

>> we got tourist visas. we were really lucky. lots of journalists have been turned down. we got really lucky. >> you captured a lot on video. it's really extraordinary. because really, the only images we have been able to get out of syria are cell phone images that protesters have been taking. you got to a house and nearby houses were being raided by militia. i want to play some of that. >> we hid our camera but used a cell phone to film. i could hear the scream from next door as the militia raided the house. a mother was pleading with them not to take her son. >> i mean, it really gives you a sense of the fear that people live in every day. what is it like for dissidents there? what is it like for the protesters? >> they live as fugitives. they live on the run. many of them haven't seen their families for months and months. and they live going from

safehouse to safehouse, on the run. >> you know, the syrian regime, which has been lying about an awful lot and lying for months, you know, they say these are terrorists, that these are armed groups. >> yeah, well, that's rubbish. we didn't meet any terrorists. none of the protesters we met were armed. we saw thousands protesting, men, women and children. these are ordinary people. so the guys that we were with in the safehouse, two of them were college graduates. >> we heard a lot of stories from people i talked to on this program, dissidents, protesters, who say if you go to a hospital, the government will come to the hospital and remove people from the hospitals and disappear them or take them to a military hospital. did you see evidence of that? >> we heard this time and time again, and we spoke to a doctor who said he'd seen with his own eyes injured protesters dragged out of their hospital beds by security forces. he said some were coming in with superficial injuries and weeks

later their bodies, their dead bodies would be returned to their families. >> that's the other thing about this regime that i find so stunning is their willingness to torture people and kill people and then return the bodies to the families, almost as a warning. >> but not only is the regime returning tortured bodies to families, it's in a really disrespectful way. it's not adhering to the muslim custom of returning the body for burial. it's waiting one or two weeks. >> you were able to speak to some dissident soldiers who had apparently defected. and you were able to hear their perspective. i want to play some of that. >> he's saying if they didn't shoot, there were regime supporters behind them who would

actually shoot the soldiers. i mean, does evidence bear that out? >> this is a story that we kept on hearing. and it's been quite well documented by the activists as well. we didn't doubt it for a minute. >> it really amazes me just -- i guess it shouldn't amaze me, but just the extent to which the regime lies. we had the syrian ambassador to the u.n. on this program. the stuff that was coming out of his mouth, it would have been funny if it wasn't so serious. but to actually see it with your own eyes? >> yeah, it's outrageous. and in fact, it's funny because when we flew into damascus, we started to question whether this uprising was happening because life goes on as normal. and, of course, the minute we left damascus, it's everywhere. it's totally undeniable. and they are lying, lie upon lie. and, of course, the day after assad made this agreement with the arab league to withdraw troop from all the cities, over ten people were killed. in fact, i was talking to one of the activists today. and i dread my conversations

with them because i know they're going to e-mail over images of their latest friends dead. >> even though they're living in fear and at risk of their own lives and their friends are dying and they could very well end up dead, they're going to continue, you think? >> they will absolutely continue. and i think it's going to take a bloody turn now. one thing they've said to me is they're going to try to arm themselves. they think that's the only way of protecting themselves, of defending themselves. >> it's really fascinating stuff. thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead tonight, election day 2011. how some of the state and local ballot issues americans voted on today could have a far reaching impact nationwide. also, sickening accusations of child rape on the penn state campus. did the school's powerful legendary football program try to cover up the crimes to protect a retired assistant coach? rings ] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 days, it's been 3 weeks.

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many american went to the polls today to vote in state and local elections. some of the races are being closely watched for impact they may have beyond their own states. the same goes for ballot initiatives that were up for vote. let's start with one of the high-profile races in kentucky i know you're watching. >> a real split between democrats and republicans. in kentucky, the democratic governor there, steve beshear, we're now predicting has easily gone on to re-election at this point.

people wanted to opt out of health care, symbolic, saying they do not want to be forced to buy health care under the reform bill. let's go to mississippi. the same sort of split decision. you can the question of defining a person, conservatives wanted to say from the moment of conception, that's person. it was clearly an end-run on roe v. wade on abortion rights. voters there said, including many conservatives no this goes too far, calling that as a win for the no vote. that was rejected, but in the same vote, they also said your going to need the voter i.d. we haven't called it it yet, but clearly leading, need a voter i.d. to vote, largely associated with republican voters and oh, by the way, a long-time republican governor there is leaving, he is haley barbour, being replaced, we have called it, by another republican. so as you can see, all night long, a series of mixed decisions here, democrats can see some wins, republicans can

see some wins. right the now, at least, no really clear trends. so let's go to to the update. italy's prime minister silvio berlusconi is resigning, driven out by the debt crisis. he'll step down after the next budget is approved by parliament. the iaea says it has obtained credible information that iran may be developing nuclear weapons. the report calls iran's nuclear program more ambitious and structured than previously known. the bbc is reporting that the "news of the world" tabloid paid a private eye to spy on prince william and a host of other high-profile people. the defunct tabloid is at the center of the phone hacking scandal that's rocked rupert murdoch's news corp. this week, murdoch's son, james, is expected to testify a second time before british lawmakers. take a look at this. this spinning blurry blob is an asteroid, the size of an

aircraft carrier. at 6:28 eastern tonight, it came within 202,000 miles of earth. it is incredibly rare for an asteroid that large to come so close to our planet. now time for our beat 360 winners. a chance to show up staffers by coming up with a better caption for the photo we post on our blog every day. tonight's photo, a balloon act performed for first lady michelle to obama at the white house. our staff winner tonight is anne. her caption, michelle ole 'bama always wounded what he a luftballoon was. now she just needs to find 98 more. [ groaning ] yeah, i know. our win.er is dennis, michelle obama's hobby of genetic cross-breeding tomatoes in the white house garden went too far. dennis, your 360 t-shirt is on the way. anderson? crime and punishment, incredibly disturbing scandal

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crime and punishment tonight, new developments in the child sex abuse scandal that's rocked penn state's football program. jerry sandusky will not appear in court tomorrow as planned. his preliminary hearing has been postponed until december 7th. the charges against him could not be uglier. he allegedly fondled and raped

young boys that he had contact with through his charity that he founded. reporters were waiting when joe paterno left practice. >> you guy have a lot of good questions that i'd like to answer, but i can't do it now. i'm sorry the press conference didn't turn out. but we'll try to have another one, too. >> calls for paterno's resignation are growing. tonight, he arrived home to a huge show of support outside his house. he wouldn't take any questions or make any statements. so far, two top university officials, timothy curley and gary schultz, have been charged with failing to report allegations of abuse that occurred on university property. possibly the most shocking fact to come out is how far back the suspected abuse goes. jason carroll reports. >> reporter: the allegations of sexual abuse by former penn state defensive coordinator jerry sandusky go back to the

mid-1990s. several alleged assaults occurred on the penn state campus, the most shocking in march of 2002. >> sandusky was seen committing a sexual assault on a young boy of about 10 years of age. it was reported to university officials by a graduate assistant who happened to be in the building late one friday evening. >> reporter: that graduate assistant reported the incident to longtime head football coach joe paterno. in this statement, paterno said, in part, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving mr. sandusky. he goes on to say, because sandusky was already retired at that point, i referred the matter to university administrators. >> and we believe all the pieces are in place -- >> reporter: that administrator was timothy curley, penn state's athletic director. he and gary schultz, senior vice president for finance and business, took away sandusky's locker room keys and banned him from having children in the football building, according to authorities, but never reported the incident to law enforcement.

>> their inaction likely allowed a child predator to continue to victimize children for many, many years. >> reporter: curley did, however, report it to second mile, the children's charity which sandusky founded and where he allegedly met most of his victims. the charity said in a statement, mr. curley also shared that the information had been internally reviewed and that there was no finding of wrongdoing. they, too, didn't report the incident to law enforcement or ban sandusky from contact with children at that time. according to the grand jury report, sandusky began abusing another victim he met through second mile in 2005 or 2006. but it wasn't until november of 2008, according to the charity, when sandusky told them he was being investigated that they immediately made the decision to separate him from all of our program activities involving children. that 2008 investigation finally led to explosive charges this

weekend. sandusky is accused of sexually assaulting eight boys. he maintains he's innocent. >> regardless of whether he eventually proves his guilt or innocence, people are going to think that he did this stuff. >> reporter: and curley and schultz are charged with failing to report abuse and lying to a grand jury. their attorneys say the charges are bogus. >> it is unconscionable that the attorney general's office would level such a weak case against a man of integrity like mr. curley. >> this is disappointing. because rather than follow the law, the attorney general's fabricated a fiction. >> reporter: as far as the 84-year-old coach joe paterno, the attorney general says he will not be charged, but there are calls for his resignation. today, a press conference for paterno was hastily canceled, but he did say this to cnn. >> you guys have a lot of good

questions that i'd like to answer but i can't do it now. >> jason carroll joins me with sarah gannon, a reporter at the patriot news and wendy murphy, a former sex prosecutor. there have been reports that joe paterno, some are calling for his resignation. has he said whether he intends to do that? and why are some saying he should resign? >> reporter: first, let me answer the question in terms of why. they're saying that he should resign simply because maybe he did what he should have done legally, but morally the feeling among some is he should have done more by going to the police. in terms of whether or not he'll resign at his house, his son, scott, came out and said despite these reports of his father's resignation, he says there are no plans for his father to resign. when asked if he'd be out there coaching at this weekend's game, he said his father would be out there to coach and coaching for the rest of the season as well. >> what about the university president? there are some reports that he may step down.

>> reporter: yeah. for graham spanier, there have been lots of calls for his resignation as well because the feeling is the buck really stops with him. tomorrow night, there was supposed to be a benefit dinner with the president to be there with his wife to raise money for penn state. that was canceled all of a sudden. so that may be some indication that there is something there, but we have yet to hear some sort of official word from that from the president. >> sarah, you spoke to two of the moms of the victims allegedly sexually abused by sandusky. what did they tell you? >> i mean, both of them are feeling extremely let down and betrayed by penn state. those feelings come from the charges that are levied against tim curley and gary schultz, then the moral allegations that were made against joe paterno and graham spanier. they say they should have done more. but one mom in particular, her son came forward in 1998, was not believed and both of them, herself and her son, just feel

awful that there were victims that have come forward since that they believe had to be victimized because her son wasn't believed. she told me her son when he read that 23-page presentment, he cried, because his incident was basically a one-time incident. and what happened to the victim, the most recent victim, was over a long period of time, continued abuse, and they just feel awful about it. >> wendy, you say that paterno filled his legal obligation here because many institutions forbid employees from reporting child abuse to authorities, is that true? >> well, it's whether written policies or not, as a matter of practice, institutions that understand they have mandatory reporting, they have policy in place so there's a designated person whose job it is to make that report. in other words, there's a chain of command. and whatever you may know about a child abuse incident, you're not supposed to make that call. you're supposed to tell the designated person and they're expected to call either law enforcement and/or child

protective services. that's one of the reasons why i don't understand why the piling on around joe is going on. i realize he failed morally, but the president, graham spanier, he is responsible. compare this to the catholic church abuse crisis in boston. we didn't ask for the monsignors who participated in the cover-up to be fired or indicted. we asked for cardinal law to be indicted because he was the boss of the church. the institute's head is responsible. he's the criminal here. and i don't understand why he isn't being charged with some kind of failure to report. he should be charged. >> wendy murphy, jason carroll, sara ganim as well. attorney general eric holder's strong words about operation fast and furious, the controversial program that allowed illegal guns to be smuggled to mexico. and our gloria borger just got off the phone with one of herman cain's accusers. ♪

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breaking news tonight, gloria borger just off the phone with karen kraushaar. what did she say? >> well, she wouldn't comment on the cain press conference today, but she does want to get the women together to talk about their charges. she said that cain is, quote, a serial denier. she believe that he will deny if it's 4 or 40 women. and i don't know how the american women will get past that. she made the case she's a civil servant, she's not political. she was sick of this story 12 years ago. to her, it's old news. but at the same time, it's become part of the public debate. so, she believes it is no longer a private matter. it is a personally embarrassing matter. she thought that sharon bialek showed great courage. and again, she talked about the possibility of releasing documents. she has kept, anderson, all the copies of her own allegations and the settlement. and she does not have to go to

the restaurant association to ask them to waive confidentiality any more since they have already done that. she could potentially release these documents on her own or she could do it as a part of a group with the other women. >> did she make any comments or did you ask her about cain's saying that his only memory of her was commenting on his wife being in comparison to his wife's height? >> yes, i did ask her about >> yes, i did ask her about that and she kind of laughed. a comment like that is so innocuous. she said it sounds vaguely familiar. but there was an incident in his office that was a part of her complaint, but the comparison of the heights was certainly not any part of the complaint at all. >> is she indicating that it was, in fact, a legal settlement, which is cain saying it's his understanding it wasn't, it was just a sort of termination agreement. >> i tried to confirm with her

if it was $45,000. she said, actually, it was $46,000. and it was a settlement due to the charges of sexual harassment. not a severance agreement in any way, shape or form. >> $46,000 as a severance agreement sounds like a lot of money. >> well, as a settlement agreement? >> no, as a severance. as a settlement, that's more understandable. >> right. it was not severance. she said it was a settlement agreement, and she has waived her confidentiality on it. so i believe that we could see her release at some point her own copies of the allegations. >> interesting. gloria, again, on the front end of the story. thanks. isha is back with a "360" news bulletin. >> attorney general eric holder says operation fast and furious never should have happened and must never happen again. holder testified before the

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time now for the ridiculist. tonight i got to do it. i got to do it. we got to add our good friend dr. drew. on his show, "lifechangers," dr. drew tackled an issue that's been gnawing at the entire nation. that's right. i'm talking about whether or not courtney stodden's boobs are real. she's the aspiring reality show star at 16 years old that married doug hutchinson. since then, she's beguiled us with her music, with her costumes and wisdom that oozes forth from her twitter page. but one question has positively plagued courtney since her meteoric rise to fame. namely, has she had plastic surgery or not? dr. drew decided to get to the bottom of it or the top, as the case may be. because he had two doctors use ultrasound on courtney to find out if she's had implants. oh, yes. >> i see a circular object. >> right there.

>> yeah. >> i can freeze it. >> it looks like it's under the muscle, too. >> that's right. >> so there's our implant. >> somebody must have drugged me up and put me under their surgery knife, because i've had no surgery done. >> courtney, do you have implants? >> no, i don't. no. >> uh-uh. see? you're probably thinking i knew those things were fake. or perhaps you're thinking, courtney who now? why did courtney even agree to this? she's answered this plastic surgery question time and time again. isn't it enough? need i remind you of this from her youtube page. >> my breasts are real. everything about me is real. my teeth are real. my eyelashes are real. my breasts are totally real. >> you heard her, america, it's all real. and you know what, doctors can be wrong sometimes. let's go back to the next installment of dr. drew's "implant hunters." >> it could be like a bone or whatever we were looking at so --

>> that's all normal. >> that's all normal. >> so i guess she was telling us the truth. she doesn't look like she has an implant. >> you do not have an implant. >> there you go. officially real. just like that, our long national nightmare is over. not since kim kardashian got her butt x-rayed to prove its veracity has democracy worked quite so well. we can all be proud to be americans tonight. for dr. drew for doubting courtney for even a moment, we have no choice -- hang on there. i can't let this go. i cannot talk about courtney without my favorite courtney stodden clip. >> people are welcome to their opinions. that's what the world is about. if they need to feel this way, that's theirs to hold, not ours. >> i almost can't listen to what he's saying because of courtney's contortions.