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non-perishable. protein-rich foods like peanut butter, beans and tuna. that's going to wrap it up for us. stay connected with my life stream, cnn.com/sanjay. see you back here next week. time now for a check of your top stories in the "cnn newsroom." good sunday morning. we're at the top of the hour. 8:00 eastern time. but it is 5:00 a.m. in portland, oregon, where you are looking at a live picture of where protesters occupy protesters have defied a deadline to leave an encampment where these demonstrators that been for the past several weeks. they were giving a midnight local time deadline to leave. that order came from the police and from the mayor. but here we are, five hours after that deadline has come and gone. but the protesters have not gone
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anywhere. we did get word from police, at least one police officers was hit with a projectile. he had to be taken to the hospital. told he is going to be okay. but for the most part we have not seen violence break out but police are standing by in riot gear. we don't have word of whether or not they are about to move in and try to get people out. we did get word a short time ago -- at least a local paper, police are now telling people you need to get out of the streets or face arrest. again, we have been watching these pictures throughout the morning and we are five hours past that deadline for people to leave the encampment. but yes, it is 5:00 a.m. local time and people are still out in a stand-off with police. earlier i talked to one of those protesters, who's been a part of of the occupy demonstrations in portland for the past six weeks. her name is kerry coe. listen to what she told me. >> what we're doing here in occupy portland and the occupy
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movement globally is we are bringing to the forefront issues that desperately matter to people. talking about inequality of wealth and power. talking about homelessness and foreclosures. talking about issues that matter to people's lives, and the mayor can order us to leave, but we have the right to freedom of assembly, we have right to free speech and we have the right to be in these parks and we're not going to back down and leave the parks just because it's inconvenient for the mayor to have us here. >> kerry coe -- i want to remind you these pictures on your screen are from our local affiliates there and all of these are live pictures. this is not video from earlier. but yes, it is 5:00 a.m. local time and people are still out in the streets in some sort of stand-off with police. joining me on the line right now is lieutenant robert keene with the portland police department. sir, i know it's been a busy night and this night continues for you all.
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we got word from the "oregonian" saying police told protesters to leave the road or face arrest. >> that's the position we're in now. earlier tonight one of our officers was injured. he was struck in the leg by some object. he's been transported to an area hospital. thankfully with non-life threatening injuries. but after following that incident, a large group of people, hundreds, maybe thousands of people, have made their way into the street and so we've taken a sort of position and established a line and there are just a large number of people that are now in the street kind of blocking the intersection. so we've been asking them to move out of the street so we can re-open the street and get the city going. but this has been going on now for hours. and we're in a position where obviously we're likely to have to act. >> lieutenant, you gave people -- at least the occupy demonstrators who were in the encampment -- until midnight, five hours ago, their local time
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to get out of these encampments. i understand that many of them did pack up and leave. is that true? and if so, how many actually were part of that encampment and left? >> well, a lot of people packed up and left today. that's one of the things that's di disheartening about this. hundreds, maybe thousands of people came down here tonight who have not participated in the occupy movement at all. it is just if they came down to watch a possible confrontation with police. so many people moved out complying as we asked them to. many people came down tonight and were peaceful and it's just a handful of people who were intent on a confrontation with police that ultimately has brought us to this point. >> lieutenant king, sounds like -- correct me if i'm wrong, but is it fair to say for the most part the people causing you problems this evening have not been part of the occupy demonstrations the past several weeks. we even heard one person say the
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bars closed at 2:00 a.m. and people just flooded out into the streets. is it fair to say troublemakers are not necessarily affiliated with the occupy movement? >> i think that's true, too, to some degree. the folks who are a part of occupy portland here in the last 35, 36 days have been engaged in non-violent protests. but tonight there is an escalation in the crowd, drums are being pounded on, people are singing, chants. it's not here we are, 4:00, 5:00 in the morning. it is not deescalating. people are not leaving as we've asked them to, it is in fact escalating and they are just becoming more and more i guess excited, unfortunately. >> lieutenant king, it is certainly good to hear that your officer is going to be om but is it fair to say for the most part peaceful this evening? >> i think tonight so far with the exception of the injury to one officer, that, yes, by and large, tonight has been peaceful.
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it's been peaceful in the way that the occupation here in portland has been really since it started. and so that's one of the things that we think is sort of tragic and disappointing and unfortunate. we work closely with occupy for over the last month and this was never about a confrontation with police. occupy movement here locally and around the country and around the world has been about something all together different. so for us at the end of what's been a difficult and expensive road, we think it is really unfortunate that we're in this situation where it appears as if the resolution to at least occupy here in portland is going to result in some sort of confrontation with protesters. >> and sir, as i let you go here, you said you are getting to a point where you might have to act. have you all given yourselves some kind of a deadline given the protesters who are in the streets -- or the people i should say maybe in the streets, some kind of deadline to clear out or you will have to move? >> we've not laid down a
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deadline. but you know, at a certain point in time, it is going to start to get daylight. people are going to start making their way around the city. so inevitably this time ultimately, either we'd like for people to leave or something along the lines of a confrontation might happen. we genuinely hope this matter resolves itself peacefully but we're genuinely concerned in light of some of the things that have happened tonight. >> lieutenant king, that night for you all actually continues right now as it is about ten minutes past the hour, 5:00 a.m. local time. sir, thank you for your time. we'll check in with you again and keep an eye on things. we will continue to watch live pictures out of portland. you are hearing there from lieutenant king. he said it is getting to a point where they're going to have to possibly act in some fashion. they've been warning people get out of the streets or face arrest. so we are standing by. he said he's hoping they don't have to come to that. seven minutes past the hour now.
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portland is not the only city that has been moving on some of the occupy protesters. we have seen many pictures, many scenes like this one in oakland but really all across the country. this is oakland here. some of the biggest clashes we have seen have been between police and protesters in oakland. also we've seen some similar scenes in denver. also governments -- city governments in atlanta, as well as st. louis, have made moves to tell people you've got to leave these encampments or face us coming in and forcing you out. to politics now -- but we won't go too far away from what's happening in portland. but to politics now and national security. that was the focus of last night's republican presidential debate this south carolina. eight candidates up there trying to set themselves apart in the minds of voters. we've just got two months to go now before people start voting in those iowa caucuses. i'm going to take you through
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some of the highlights from last evening, if you will. the issue of torture came up. torture for some, enhanced interrogation techniques for others. depends on who you ask and also the issue of waterboarding came up and the candidates clearly had different opinions. >> if i were president, i would be willing to use waterboarding. i think it was very effective. it gained information for our country. >> waterboarding is torture. we dilute ourselves down like a lot of other countries and we lose that ability to project values. >> i would return to that policy. i don't see it as torture. i see it as an enhanced interrogation technique. >> torture is illegal and by our laws it is legal by international laws. >> and i am for using the techniques not torture, but using those techniques that we know will extract the information to save young american lives and i will be for it until i die. >> meanwhile, michele bachmann's campaign are a little bothered
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by something that happened last night surrounding the news debate. it had nothing to do really with what she said during the debate but how much she was allowed to say. you see, there was an e-mail chain. we've had all this issue before. you accidentally hit reply all and someone who wasn't supposed to get the e-mail gets the e-mail? well, this is that situation. the e-mail was sent out by cbs' political director john dickerson. in a larger e-mail about post-debate interviews he had this to say about bachmann's role in the debate itself, and i quote, "she's not going to get many questions and she's nearly off the charts." well, he hit reply all on this e-mail and it actually went to one of michele bachmann's campaign staffers. now this is what bachmann had to say about that e-mail message. >> it was targeted to me. i don't know if it was targeted to anyone else but each of the
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candidates are invited to come here and each of the candidates have something to say and i have something to say about foreign policy as well and i think it is only respectful to allow the candidates to speak and not intentionally ahead of time make a decision to limit candidates' opportunity to speak to the american people. this isn't about -- this shouldn't be about media bias. clearly this was an example of media bias. this should be about an effort to get all of the information on the table. >> now, for the cbs part and dickerson's part, he says, tho, this wasn't meant for a campaign staffer but it was a private e-mail between a couple of cbs employees but still staying by what he said, essentially, hey, she's polling at 4%. of course she's not going to be the focal point of this particular debate. meanwhile, michele bachmann is using this maybe as a campaign rally, maybe as a ploy to raise a little more. much more on this and the rest of this on candy crowley's "state of the union." but now we turn to penn state. the football game that was
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supposed to be the beginning of a healing process. students came out to support their team and to remember the alleged vic titims of the sex ae scandal but a nice moment before the game. both teams, penn state and nebraska, their coming together before the game now in the middle of the field to say a prayer. now penn state ends up losing the game, 17-14. but that's just part of the story. mike galanos has been reporting from campus for us this weekend. mike, hello again. was the fact that penn state lost the game really the most insignificant part of the day yesterday? >> reporter: almost, t.j. almost. that's well put. because it was so much more, about so much more than football. you wonder what did everybody go through as we watched this unfold? number one, what was the alleged victim thinking? let's stop and think of that. because these alleged victims are about the same age as the
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students now. what were they thinking as they were watching in hopefully they found support as they were honored an remembered and over $20,000 was raised in beaver stadium behind me. you also wonder about the significant players in all this. what were they going through. penn state takes the field without joe paterno as head coach for the first time since 1966. although there was a paterno on the sidelines. his son, assistant coach jay paterno. and imagine what he has gone through this week. a son hearing his father besmirched losing his job and i think he wanted to cry out probably throughout the week and we saw a glimpse of those emotions right after the game. let's watch that. >> joe's always taught us about the blue line of practice and when you cross the blue line, the only thing you control is what you're doing right there. so we just had to imagine there was a blue line coming in to this stadium and once we were here we were focused on the task at hand and just a little short. dad, i wish you were here. we love you. >> boy, that says it all.
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those kind of emotions i'm sure were team wide. the players talked about how hard it was to play without their coach, joe paterno. t.j., they left bus 1, seat 1, always there for joe paterno, they left it vacant in honor of their coach. he said, hey, don't worry about me, i'll be with you in spirit. has that healing process begun? i think the $20,000 donations from beaver stadium was huge. >> mike galanos, thank you this weekend. there's also some similar soul searching going on at the citadel. university officials now admit they should have done more when allegations of inappropriate sexual conduct surfaced there a few years ago. a former cadet and camp counselor was arrested last month on charges of criminal sexual conduct and attempted lewd acts with a child. but it was back in 2007 that a
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red flag was raised about his conduct at the citadel. the university stopped investigating after their attorney said they couldn't confirm any acts of abuse had taken place. as we are at quarter past the hour on this cnn sunday morning, let us say good morning to our reynolds wolf. you still keeping an eye on the rockies? >> absolutely. to be honest, in light of some of the stories we've had this morning, seems very minimal. but yes, a very big storm has been rocking parts of the central rockies, talking about potential wind gusts approaching 70, maybe even surpassing 70 miles an hour. on top of that, several feet of snow. in atlanta, however, things look good. this is a great shot outside. little bit of mackerel skies out there but should be very nice, mild highs in the 70s for today. >> reynolds, thank you. talk to you again shortly. it was supposed to be a football game. but it seems like football was kind of the last thing on a lot of people's minds.
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so, maybe the only camera you need is the one on the most amazing iphone yet. 19 minutes past the hour now this cnn sunday morning. it was one of the most unprecedented and really embarrassing weeks in college football history. it is now wrapping up and a lot of people are wondering where doing penn state go from here? it was a solemn pre-game scene. look at this. it was a nice moment. nittany lions walked on to the field without their head coach, joe paterno yesterday. he's been a fixture at psu since 1950. the teams got together and said a prayer right before the game. coach paterno and the school's long-time president were both fired in the wake of the child rape scandal and penn state student body president t.j.
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bard, joins me now from campus. yesterday a good first step for the university? >> absolutely. the game was indescribable emotionally. i think students really needed the football game this saturday. it really was -- it brought the students together and it was one of the most highly emotionally charged football games i've ever been to. >> you said really needed the game. didn't necessarily need a victory. did that part seem pretty insignificant yesterday, the fact that the team lost? >> i mean we would have loved to have the victory but i think just the sense of community and being in that stadium, having some sort of normalcy again was the most important. something i've never seen before in a penn state football game, we had the student section filled to the very last second to the game and after the game ended it truly seemed like no one wanted to leave. all the students stuck around for maybe 10 or 15 minutes after the game. no one really wanted it to be over. we just didn't want to lose that be sense of community that we had longed for for so long this
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week. >> t.j., how important was it for you to put on a good display yesterday, given what we saw several days ago with the rioting. that had to be an embarrassing episode for many of you all on campus. but how critical was it for you all to put on a good display yesterday of what that university is about, given that you knew the entire country was going to be watching you yesterday. >> what's been most important for the students in the past three or four days have been really honoring the victims and turning the national spotlight to child abuse prevention and i think that was something we really wanted to honor and remember with the blue-out, the various donation collecting we had been doing over the past couple days and it was phenomenal to actually bring worldwide attention to child abuse and really show what penn state is about and what the students really care about at this point. >> t.j., i'm getting different opinions from students there on campus, but so much of that raw emotion was about coach paterno
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being fired before a lot of information -- we certainly know more now. but now knowing what you know and hearing the reaction from joe paterno and some of the statements he's put out, do you think it was the right thing for him to be fired? >> i think only time will truly tell. obviously you never want to see someone like joe paterno go out the way he did. he's been an inspiration and legacy of this university. but at the end of the day, i think a lot of students trust the board of trustees, trust their decision and i think we'll really see in the next coming weeks and months if it was the right decision or not. >> t.j. bard, thank you for being here. i really want to commend a lot of students on that campus for how you all carried yourselves in the days after the whole scandal broke, after the rioting, it's, frankly, admirable and proud to see a college campus and young people come together and really put on the display like you all did yesterday knowing the pressure and eyes were going to be on you. so congratulations on that.
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we look forward to watching you all move forward. >> thank you so much. 22 past the hour. let me bring in hln sports anchor joe carter. football game. it would have been one of the, frankly, biggest football games of the year had this scandal not taken place. a lot was on the line for the nittany lions. but football seemed so insignificant in a lot of ways. >> didn't it? great job, t.j. by the way. i have to give kudos to espn by the way they covered that yesterday, breaking away from college game day and going to the penn state coverage 15 minutes before the kickoff, watching the players be introduced on senior day, watching the team walk out arm in arm. then the show of solidarity between nebraska and penn state and all the people on the sidelines for them to come to mid-field and to get on a knee and pray for several minutes. the stadium falls silent. i really, really, really couldn't hold back my emotions yesterday. i thought it was an incredible
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moment. one that i've never seen. just genuine compassion from both side, from everyone there. as t.j. was saying, the show of the blue-out, the support for child abuse victims, this is clearly an unprecedented time for the university, for state college, for this entire campus, for anyone that's ever involved in penn state, alumni, past and present. i'm at a loss for words sometimes with this story because it is hard to talk about but at the same time, i'm excited to see where this university is going to -- where they're going to go next, where they're going to come out of this and i hope that they come out shining, because they deserve that at this point. it's like learning santa claus is not real. i'm sorry for those that are just learning. but you learn by joe paterno. it hurt me as a college football fan and as somebody that gets to do this as a living. it is just a sad story. >> i think one of the most poignant things i heard was from
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a nebraska fan saying we are all penn state today. that kind of wraps it up. we have to leave it right there. joe, we appreciate you, as always, coming down. thanks so much. 25 minutes past the hour. going to join reynolds wolf here in just a moment. once again talking about this nasty winter storm moving across colorado. stay with us here on this cnn sunday morning. home menu orange chicken women men and uh pandas... elbows mmm [ male announcer ] wanchai ferry, try it yourself. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's new glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have 6 grams of sugars. with 15 grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight.
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talk college football again, as always. but we've got something else big happening, don't we? >> why you ask me? you're the weather guy. >> weatherwise we've got huge that's happening. we always look at weather around the country but one thing really captures the eye, the imagination -- a massive winter storm moving into the rocky mountains. >> i always ask this. some kind of historical perspective -- do these just come along every now and again or is this something pretty special we're watching? >> a little bit of both. you have a pattern. obviously it is not odd to have snow in the rocky mountains. it does happen. but this is a very potent one. i guarantee we'll see some of these in the winter. keep in mind the rocky mountains can get snowfall in june but this is one of the first big wintry blasts we've seen. doesn't look too compelling right now. just a little bit of rainfall near salt lake city and high
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elevations we've got some snow but what we anticipate wind gusts topping 60, possibly approaching 70 miles an hour as an area of low pressure pulls east, an area of high pressure just to the south of that, that combination is what we refer to as a tight pressure gradient. with that you will have very vong wi strong wind gusts. yesterday, we had strong winds. in the central plains, some approaching 60 miles an hour. again this will ramp up, really intensify. anyone driving on the freeway making the trip from denver to points west, it is going to be just brutal for you. be careful out there. if you can avoid it, don't make that trip at all. wait until monday, wait until tuesday and you'll be better off. same story for parts of the northern rockies. california finally catching a break after several days of rain. nice and warm for you in parts
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of texas. very mild on the eastern seaboard but great lakes will see rain today. chicago 66. 75 your high in memphis. 60s from boston to new york to washington. the high atlanta, 70. 80 new orleans. 80 in albuquerque. 83 in dallas. 56 in billings. 65 in san francisco and 69 in los angeles. that's a wrap on the forecast, t.j. back to you. >> reynolds, thank you, kind sir. when we come back we'll check in once again with what's happening in portland, oregon where there has been a standoff between police and protesters for the past several hours. police warned some of these occupy protesters you've got until midnight to get out of here. that midnight deadline has come and gone and this protest continues some 5 1/2 hours after that deadline. we're checking back in live in portland. stay with us on this cnn sunday morning. skwa.
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i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. we are just past the bottom of the hour on this cnn sunday morning. welcome back to you all. thank you so much for spending part of your weekend here with us. this morning we have been keeping a close eye on what's happening on the streets of portland, oregon. live pictures we have been watching. it is just part the bottom of the hour, 5:30 a.m. out there on the west coast. and still people are out in the streets. they have lined the streets in protest. this was all a part of the occupy encampment. occupy protesters out there have been occupying a couple of parks and downtown. but police gave though protesters until midnight local time to leave. many of them did pack up and leave, but then they had so many other people show up and come
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out on the streets and become a part of the protest. police are saying they are trying to avoid any kind of confrontation but police are out in their riot gear. they have told people get out of the streets or face arrest. i talked to a police spokesman just a few minutes ago. >> this was never about a confrontation with police. the occupy movement here locally and around the country and around the world has been about something all together different. we've not laid down a deadline, but you know, at a certain point in time it is going to start to get daylight, people are going to start making their way around the city and so inevitably, ultimately either we'd like for people to leave or something along the lines of a confrontation might happen. we are genuinely hoping this matter resolves itself peacefully but we're obviously concerned given some of the things that have happened tonight. >> it's worth noting, one police officer was injured, had to be taken to the hospital but he did
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have non-life threatening injuries. according to police he was hit with some kind of projectile somebody tossed in the crowd. police say most of the people or good number of them did pack up and leave the actual occupy encampment but as it got later in the evening and many people were leaving their nights out, leaving bars at 2:00 a.m., they started to go down just to see what they could see and a lot of those people were the troublemakers, they weren't necessarily attached to the occupy encampment. but we continue to keep an eye on what's happening in the streets of portland right now. 36 minutes past the hour. let me turn to the apec summit. the apec trade summit is wrapping up in honolulu today. president obama, there is hosting it. he hopes to create more jobs here in the country but the president called the u.s. lazy for not doing more to encourage foreign businesses to invest here. or white house correspondent dan lothian with these details. >> reporter: dressed for meetings with apec world leaders
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and top ceos, president obama admitted he felt a bit out of place. >> in all my years of living in hawaii and visiting hawaii, this is the first time that i have ever worn a suit. >> reporter: and for those who still question his birthplace -- >> i know that was contested for a while, but i can actually show you the hospital if you want to go down there. >> reporter: with that light introduction, president obama served up the main course, stressing increased trade with the asia pacific region and emphasizing the u.s. is open for business. >> we've been a little bit lady i think over the last couple of decades. we've kind of taken for granted well, people will want to come here and we aren't out there hungry selling america trying to attract new businesses into america. >> reporter: asked to comment on the president's characterization of the problem, the ceos of google, johnson & johnson and caterpillar took a pass. but eric schmidt of google said, lazy is not a word he would have
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used. these business leaders do embrace the view that asia offers big opportunities. >> the fastest way to create more jobs in america then is to increase our exports to the fastest growing parts of the world which happen to be in asia. >> reporter: pushing trade and other shared global issues, president obama met one on one with the leaders of china, japan and russia. then hosted a dinner and attended a cultural program. >> our dan lothian is there, joins me from honolulu. dan, this will certainly turn some people off to hear the president of the united states saying that the country has been lazy in any way, form or fashion. it does deserve some context but is the administration standing by the president's comment? >> reporter: in fact, they are. i talked to a senior administration official about the president's use of that word and this official defending the president, again reiterating that over the years a lot had been taken for granted and what this was about was "maximizing our advantage" about being aggressive in pursuing foreign
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investment inside the u.s. they see this strategy as a way to not only boost the u.s. economy but also create more jobs, t.j. >> what's next for the president? he's about to wrap up there. then he's off. >> that's right. i mean this is the final day, more meetings including working lunch with apec leaders. there will be that family photo. then president obama will hold a news conference, a chance to answer questions about not only what happened here at apec but also other issues. and then even though he winds down this event today, the president will remain in hawaii on monday, but it is a down day for the president. the only thing so far in his schedule is a campaign fund-raiser. >> dan lothian there for us in honolulu, thank you so much. 39 minutes past the hour. got 20 minutes left here on cnn sunday morning. coming up next, allergies. if you have them, you know they can be brutal. got some tips for you on that. we're also keeping a close eye on what's happening in the streets of portland right now as police clash with occupy
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protesters. a live picture you're seeing there. also in this next 20 minutes we'll check in with candy crowley. her show getting ready at the top of the hour. that's all in the next 20 minutes. stay with us. okay-y... okay??? i've been eating progresso and now my favorite old jeans...fit. okay is there a woman i can talk to? [ male announcer ] progresso. 40 soups 100 calories or less. i don't always have time to eat like i should. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes, which can help lower a1c. [ male announcer ] glucerna. helping people with diabetes find balance. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of a pain free holiday.
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allergies, fall can be a season of misery. here with this week's "health for her," our elizabeth cohen. >> reporter: lavella reynolds is not a big fan of this season. >> fall is the absolute worst. the absolute worst. i have a runny nose, i have burning, post nasal drip with the scratchiness and hoarseness in my voice. >> reporter: while millions of americans suffer from seasonal allergies, each person may experience them differently. symptoms may include itchy eyes, a stuffy nose, sore throat, cough and fatigue. this doctor says allergies in the autumn are attributable to one main culprit. >> ragweed blooming. that's when we see real problems with fall allergies. >> reporter: just because are you an adult without allergies does not mean are you in the clear. >> if you've never had allergies before it is still possible that you could develop them. it is more common among people who have a family history of
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allergies. >> reporter: while nasal sprays and over-the-counter products may be effective for some, others may need to go on allergy shots or like reynolds, require a combination of therapies. and it is working to give her some much-needed relief. with this week's "health for her," i'm elizabeth cohen. 43 minutes past the hour. just 17 minutes away from candy crowley and "state of the union." but she's going to join me right after the break with a preview of what she is working on and we'll also be talking about, yes, there was another republican debate but once again it did not disappoint.
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watch republican presidential candidate rick perry as he struggled with that brain freeze at last week's debate. but, he has still been able to make light of it, make fun of himself for it and he was doing it once again laughing about the whole situation. take a listen. >> yeah, so tonightfy need a lifeline i was going to look to you. okay? >> i'll fill in the blanks. >> all right. saw the doctor after that episode. the doc leaned over, he said, you know, that's happened to everybody. he said, most of us just haven't done it in front of 4 million people. he did. >> all right. let me bring in "state of the union" anchor candy crowley. candy, good morning to you. but that's a nice little moment, frankly. we see all these guys and lady go at each other on the stage, but backstage they seemed to get along and he was making light of that moment once again. >> he was indeed. you sometimes wonder these are
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professional politicians, after all, whether they know the mikes are on and cameras are looking at them. i think they do so they're quite careful. it is a good way to get the message out but the truth is that i think rick perry has really handled his wednesday stumble pretty well. he's been out making fun of himself. he is, as you see, still kind of laughing about it. honestly, it was -- this is -- usually the aftermath of a big mistake is usually what's so awful. this time he made a mistake, had this brain freeze during the debate, but the aftermath has been pretty good. he's handled it i think as well as can be expected. >> are you getting at this -- maybe rick perry, herman cain and republican candidates on your show. >> we are going to chat with the head of the republican party. so yes, we will in fact be discussing but in some ways it is interesting to talk to the chairman of the party at this point because in essence, they're kind of all his children and he's not supposed to show
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any favoritism. so we'll see if we can get any hint at all. >> okay. i have to ask you, what did you make of this michele bachmann episode with this e-mail that went out, an e-mail that went to one of her staffers accidentally from a cbs guy saying essentially she wasn't going to get a lot of questions at the debate because she hasn't polled well, which is i guess -- we all would have said that ahead of time. if you're at 4% in the national polls you're not going to get a whole lot of questions and be a fo focal point but is she trying to use this to her advantage now? >> well, sure. because america loves and underdog. any time you can show in the republican party you are an underdog, and, b, the media is trying to not give you a voice, that's always a good thing in the republican party. so why not turn it to your advantage. it doesn't change the facts around that she is now polling at 4% where at one point she kind of led the field. it is a long journey back. but nonetheless, i think folks -- particularly
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republicans -- will say not a single vote has been cast yet and the media's writing her off. so you know, yes, it plays well to the folks that she's talking to right now. >> last thing -- tell us what you got coming up here in about 12 minutes. >> we will be talking to jeb hensarling, one of the co-cha co-chairmen of the debt commission to try to figure out if they'll make their deadline in ten days. we are told they are at a stand-still so we'll see. we will talk to tom coburn, a republican, as well as mark warner, a democrat. both of them worked on the so-called gang of six, republicans and democrats who tried to come up with a solution. they formed a lot of friendships but didn't come up with a deal that either could sell to their respective parties. want to see if we can get any hints from them. also we are starting a series called "american cities." we went out to l.a., talked to mayor villaraigosa about how he is handling the lowering receipts that he's getting in the city, the kinds of things he's doing, and also get his
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take on washington. >> candy, always good to see you. we'll see you again here in just a few minutes at the top of the hour. candy crowley and "state of the union," coming your way 9:00 a.m., just about 11 minutes from now. also soon, catholic mass going to sound a bit different? forget what you heard the past 40 years. we'll tell you what's changing and why in our "faces of faith" next. ight? i mean... yeah. uh, sir... ah... [ male announcer ] layaway's back for christmas in our electronics, toys, and jewelry departments. and started earning loads of points. you got a weather balloon with points? yes, i did. [ man ] points i could use for just about anything. ♪ keep on going in this direction. take this bridge over here. there it is. [ man ] so i used mine to get a whole new perspective. ♪
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about eight minutes to the top of the hour now. to our "faces of faith" segment. a major change coming for catholics by the end of the month. no more reciting the mass by heart. our athena jones takes a look at how and why these changes are coming. >> reporter: big changes are coming for america's 70 million catholics as a new translation
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of the mass goes into effect november 27th. the revised words and phrases will provide a more literal translation from the latin. we spoke with experts and ordinary catholics about the coming changes. >> for us this is a pretty landmark moment. probably the biggest change that we're seeing in the way we celebrate mass in almost 40 years. >> reporter: about a decade in the making, the changes to the text are meant to provide a more literal translation of the original latin. monsignor rick hillgartner says priests and parishioners will have to adjust to the new language. >> it will sound a bit more formal and far more rich. it won't sound like every day spoken english. >> reporter: catholic book stores like this one at the national shrine are stocking up
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on the new text and parishioners say they're ready. >> i think it is subtle enough that we'll have to pay attention and relearn but i think it will be a great chance to really think about what the prayers mean again. >> each word has great value so we don't just like throw a word out, with you, with your soul, your spirit. there is a specific reason for each word. >> reporter: still, the new translation could lead to confusion for some catholics used to reciting the mass from memory. >> at first people might have some apprehension. >> reporter: this priest from the archdiocese of boston has led 22 workshops for clergy an church leaders to explain the changes. >> and there have been critics who might say well we don't like exactly the words that were chosen and things like that. but to understand the process, then one would understand maybe have less of an apprehension or lack of -- or less of a criticism. >> reporter: churches will provide pew cards to help parishioners learn the new
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responses. spanish, french and other languages will also have new translations. the goal is to unify the world's catholics around a common, more accurate version of the mass. >> this is not just a moment for us to get people to say new words and learn new responses. so much as it is a chance to teach about what we're worshipping. >> reporter: that you'll means that catholics who only go to church a few times a year may find themselves scratching their heads during mass this christmas season. athena joines, cnn, washington. >> find out nor more on our belief blog at cnn.com/belief. share your thoughts there. in one... burgers and soup. did you hear him honey? burgers and soup. love you. they're cute. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup.
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couple minutes away from "state of the union" with candy crowley at the top of the hour. but first, let's say hello to reynolds one more time and wrap this thing up for us weatherwise. >> we're watching a big, big storm that's moving through the rockies. wind gusts topping 60 miles an hour. yesterday we had wind gusts near 100 miles per hour and in fact exceeded 100 miles per hour. this is just mind boggling. in parts of colorado, 113-mile-an-hour gusts. pike's peak, 109. we could see more of the same today all due to the big storm system pushing through the rockies, even the northern rockies could see snow along the
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entire range you could see from three to even four feet of snowfall. that should begin to taper off into monday. eastern seaboard warming up. 56 in albuquerque, 80s for much of texas. 80 in new orleans. 46 in billings. 65 in san francisco. 50 in portland, seattle with 48. t.j., your turn. >> thank you. speaking of portland, we still are keeping our eye on what's happening out there. police have been in a standoff with protesters out here for the past several hours. we've been watching this since we've been on the air the past several hours but it is now coming up on 6:00 a.m. police had given these occupy protesters until midnight local time to get out of there. that was six hours ago. some of them left but then other people started to show up and now they've been in a stand-off with protesters who have been in the streets the past several hours. i did talk to a public information officer at the portland police department a short time aho
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