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>> how lucky for me, i just can't even imagine -- i wouldn't be here today if he wasn't there. and paterno told his boss, but the allentown pennsylvania nooufrt said mcqueary also insists he told police. he writes, i did stop it, not physically, but made sure it was stopped when i left that locker
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room, end quote. and he goes on to say, no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30 to 45 seconds, end quote. sandusky is charged with serial child molestation and two penn state officials are charged with failing to report those crimes. paterno has been fired and mcqueary is on administrative leave. the u.s. secret service says it found a bullet that struck a white house window. officials say the bullet was stopped by bulletproof glass. another round found in the exterior of the white house. officials are trying to determine if the bullets are connected to a nearby shooting on friday night. president obama and the first lady were not at the white house when shots were heard friday. the u.s. park police have issued an arrest warrant for oscar ortega hernandez who is believed to be connected to the friday incident. zuccotti park in lower manhattan is hosting occupy wall streeters, but the rules are a
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whole lot tighter. a day after police moved in and cleared protesters out, they're strictly enforcing a court order that bars tents and camp sites. protesters planned marches and other activities on what would have been the two-month anniversary of the occupation. and on to london now. an on again off again crack down is on again. giving protesters 24 hours to leave the plaza or face eviction. occupy seattle is condemning what it calls the outrageous behavior of seattle police in breaking up a march and sit-in. police say they used pepper spray only when protesters tried to block an arrest and to block city streets at rush hour. protesters say a pregnant woman, elderly woman, and a priest were among those hurt. the president of afghanistan says his war-ravaged country wants sovereignty and wants it
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now. hamid karzai today likened afghans to lions who don't like strangers in their house. at issue are military ties with the u.s. and nato beyond the scheduled pullout of 2014. karzai says the exit of coalition troops will be good for afghans. they are millionaires and they're on capitol hill right now asking for higher taxes on themselves. they're members of a group called patriotic millionaires for fiscal strength. their trip comes as a deadline nears for the congressional super committee to come up with a plan for slashing $1.2 trillion from the deficit. and their message is to the point. any plan that does not include higher taxes for millionaires should be killed. and new details on the sex scandal involving the citadel. a general council says a boy's claim he watched pornography and masturbated with a camp counselor are believable.
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a citadel graduate identified is under arrest and accused of sexually abusing at least five boys in recent years. citadel officials have acknowledged that they did not do enough to stop the alleged abuse when it was first brought to their attention. charles manson wants out of prison. the 65-year-old goes to the parole board today. at one point watson called himself the right-hand man of charlesmanson. he's served more than 40 years in prison for orchestrating the brutal death of several people in 1969. he's been denied parole 13 times. and breaking news, two major tornado warnings right now. one headed toward auburn, alabama, another for the suburbs of atlanta. let's head straight over to chad myers. chad? >> fred, a storm that's been on the ground with damage all the way from montgomery is now on its way to auburn university. not the montgomery auburn
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university campus that's east of montgomery, but the true campus of auburn. and if you're anywhere near there, you should be hearing the sirens. here, the red and green next to each other indicating circulations probably have been on the ground for a very long time. moving into the city of auburn. you need to be taking cover right now. inside the building, inside your classroom, inside the dorm rooms away from the windows. glass could be the biggest killer here. this could be a fairly strong tornado here moving into auburn, alabama. one more place that we're going to see a tornado warning, west cobb county in georgia. along dallas highway. we have some circulation there. moving up. if you're on the way to kennesaw, no damage reported, buzz these are two big cells headed to populated areas, fred. >> potentially dangerous. we'll keep watching and we know you will too. thanks so much, chad.
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if a state school doesn't report child abuse, federal funding could be suspended. that's according to new legislation proposed by a congresswoman. and gun licenses could soon be treated the same as driver's licenses. how the house is taking action to make it easier to carry concealed wes eed weapons acros lines. last night duke coach became the all-time winningest coach in college basketball when his blue devils defeated michigan state. his career includes some of the most memorable moments of basketball and he likely has a few more up his sleeve. coach k., you are today's rock star. >> coach k. wins number 903. but with advair, i'm breathing better so now i can take the lead on a science adventure.
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i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. new revelations today in the penn state child sex abuse scandal. the former graduate assistant who claimed he saw football coach jerry sandusky rape a boy in the locker room says he helped stop the attack. according to e-mails obtained by the "morning call" newspaper, mike mcqueary tells a former classmate "i did stop it, not physically, but made sure it was stopped when i left that locker room." and he claims he reported it. he said he had "discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police." but penn state is facing blistering criticism for allegedly keeping silent about the case and not doing more. now a u.s. congresswoman is calling for legislation that would stop federal funding to
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any agency or institution that fails to immediately report child sex abuse allegations. sheila jackson lee and joining us live from washington, good to see you. >> thank you, fredericka. thank you for having me. >> congresswoman, when will you be introducing this legislation? and exactly what will it entail? >> the legislation is being drafted as we are speaking today. and the focus of the legislation is to say to america that this is an urgent crisis, and the federal government must speak. and one of the strengths the federal government has besides the criminal prosecution laws, and right now this is a defined state case, although it may be found that the coach took some of these boys intrastate, and it becomes a federal crime. as we are still reviewing this. but this is to essence to give a hammer, a slamdown on what is a tragedy in america. 3 out of 10 girls may be
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sexually abused, 7 out of 10 boys in their lifetime may be sexually abused. but the fact that we are seeing these he said/she said facts unfold now hearing that the assistant coach may have stopped it, not physically, but may have stopped it and actually discussed it with police. and i think it's tragic when we put the person who may have been a civilian who tried to do something and now want to refute the fact that police didn't know about it. i want to say that the federal government is going to take away your federal funding. research dollars, various needs of institutions, be it hospitals, academic institutions, state and local government. if you do not have in place a protective measure to protect children against sexual abuse, we know about child abuse. that's an equally heinous
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circumstance. but it is well known that children do not report sexual abuse for at least two years. >> so you're talking about then, not just institutions, colleges, like penn state, nonprofit organizations, other federal agencies. state and local agencies that received federal funding. just like you said, if cases are not reported, perhaps, two years, three years down the line, then at what point are you able to institute this repealing or ending of any funding as a result of someone not making the report right away? >> it is triggered by the discovery and the facts. so in this instance, we know that this started in the late 1990s. we now see a trail of mishaps and cover-ups, it seems. and i don't want to make penn state the poster child except for the fact these are such heinous facts we are seeing. but now it would be inaction on 2011.
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we now know what happened, this act would go into place and their funds would seize as we speak. i exclude student scholarship, pell grants, et cetera, because i believe the students of a major university, unless one individual student is involved should not be penalized. but it would be all aspects of these entities that receive federal funds. i used, for example, a young lady in my district, not in my district, my state, ashley. ashley just killed herself in the last couple of days. she's 18 years old and she indicated she'd been sexually abused for all of her life. she sent 144 twitters prior to her death. she was involved with a local prosecutor's office. and frankly, fredericka, i would be requesting any federal funding that office had. you've got to move quickly. you don't need to accuse people wrongly, but you need to move quickly. the federal government needs to clamp down and say we will not tolerate it and our money is our weapon. >> we're going to follow the path of this proposal. thanks so much for your time. >> thanks for having me.
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i want to update you on a breaking story we continue to follow. we're talking about tornado warnings in two regions of the southeast and the atlanta suburbs and then again in auburn, alabama. both highly populated areas. that are staring down potential tornadic activity. there's been severe weather across a good part of the southeast, including high winds and lots of rain. you're looking at the radar picture there as it moves its way toward the east.
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let's check in with chad myers for more on this activity. >> we have warnings going off in cob county, georgia, and fulton county, georgia. that's the northern suburbs. a small area of rotation. but people get freaked out about it because it's such a populated area. a lot of damage can be done with the tree coming down or any kind of building, especially into schools. you have to be ready now. cobb county, this rotation has been to the north and east of dallas. eventually moving up across i-75 to the northeast. and eventually into northern roswell, that's the storm right there we've been watching. and it came across from dallas, right along dallas highway and going over the i-75 corridor, this would be right there through and along to the north toward roswell. especially northern roswell. not a major tornado on the ground. just slight issues here with some rotation. we'll keep watching it for you as we continue.
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the next story is that auburn university and the city of auburn now reporting damage from the possible tornado that we told you about ten minutes ago. and there are trees down, power lines are down, and some structures have been compromised. that's all we know at this point. things are just coming into us here at cnn, we'll keep you advised, but that tornado is still on the ground now northeast of auburn, alabama, moving up eventually into the western parts of georgia. fred? >> keep us posted, thanks so much, chad, on that. should the states that grant permits to carry concealed wes and almost all of them recognize permits from other states? the house will vote on that very question today and it's expected to answer yes. opponents say the measure undercuts states with tough permit requirements. supporters say if the second amendment crosses state lines carry permits should, as well. only illinois and the district of columbia don't allow seal ee weapons at all.
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convicted felons give up the right to bear arms but can and do get it back depending on the crime and the state. the process can be very difficult or remarkably easy. in almost every case, it's under covered. 11 states allow nonviolent felons to get their gun rights back automatically when they've finished their sentences. ohio, minnesota, and virginia allow violent felons to get theirs back right away. california, georgia, and nebraska restore gun rights through pardons. california does it rarely, the other two states are more lenient. i'm joined now by michael luo. why is this so easy and at the same time very complicated? >> yeah, it's complicated because there's an interaction between state and federal law. but the reason why we have this
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patchwork situation is the -- in 1986, the congress passed a bill at the request of the nra essentially that left the matter up to the states. and so basically what the law said was felons aren't allowed to have guns unless your civil rights have been restored by your state. and there's no other prohibition against you having a firearm. and so actually the restoration of these civil rights which includes the right to vote, the right to sit on a jury, the right to hold public office. in some states is pretty routine. and so a lot of states actually it's pretty easy to get your gun rights back if you have a felony on your record. >> did you find in a lot of your reporting that even in some states that perhaps would require hearings or their restrictions if you're a convicted felon in getting the return of your second, you know, amendment rights to bear arms
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that they were able to do that without all of those things? >> right, i mean, there are some states where right when you finish your sentence, your rights are restored. there's no review at all. there are other states where you actually have to go to court to get this done. and even violent felons can do that. and you know, i got -- in ohio i found a first-degree murderer who got his gun rights restored, someone who had killed someone with a shotgun. in minnesota, i had a guy who six months after he got out of prison for shooting up an ex-girlfriend's house, he got his gun rights restored. and in minnesota, actually, i talked to somebody who got his gun rights back who didn't even have to go to court. the law in minnesota is very, very spare.
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basically says that the judge has to find that you can show good cause in whatever that means. >> well, i'm sure that the article might be the impetus of some of these changes soon to come. all right. thanks so much, michael luo of the "new york times." four men convicted of murder and rape may soon get out of prison. it has to do with new dna evidence that could set them free. the details coming up after this quick break.
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a chicago judge is expected to decide if four men all convicted in a vicious 1994 murder and rape case will be cleared. all four were teenagers at the time, all four confessed. but new dna evidence links someone else to the crime. sunny hostin is here to break down this case. so, sunny, where did this discovery come from that it was someone else's dna that apparently may have been at the scene of the crime? >> welm, it's interesting, i mean you have the northwestern university center on wrongful convictions of youth working on this case much like the innocence project. they did find the dna of johnny douglas, another person was linked to this crime. what's interesting, though, is that johnny douglas was shot to death in 2008. but he was a convicted sex offender. someone whose pattern and practice seems to match the crime that occurred here.
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and they did all four of these men who were convicted while they were teenagers at the time. they have moved to vacate their conviction. and that's what this judge is considering. i think what the sticking point is for this judge is that all four of them confessed. and so the judge wants them to convince him that their confessions were not -- were, in fact, coerced. now, i think that it's a tough thing because they were teenagers, fredericka, when they confessed. so sometimes youth plays a part of -- >> but what's important is their dna -- none of -- the dna of none of them was at the scene. we're talking about michael saunders, harold richardson, terrell swift, and vincent tanes, right? >> that's right. the only thing that appears to link them to the crime is the confession. now, the confession, to my understanding, is that they differ in some key details, but they also are striking in that
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the murder we, allegedly, was led to buy one of the confessed teens. it's a tough case, but we need to keep in mind that often times people do confess when they're innocent. and so that's something that the judge will address at 2:00 p.m. today. >> sunny hostin on the case, thanks so much. appreciate that. rick perry wants to cut congress off at the knees. hep wants to cut their salaries in half, cut their budgets in half, and cut the time they spend in washington in half. will his plan just dismantle his campaign? that's fair game next. but first, political junkies, let's test your knowledge, shall we? what percentage of members of congress are millionaires? is it 47%, 32%, or c, 20%? the answer after this. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back.
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so before the break, we asked you to name the percentage of members of congress that are millionaires. which one did you pick? a, b, or c? the answer, a, 47%. rick perry has unveiled his plan to overhaul washington, which includes a part-time congress. >> -- to create a part-time congress where their pay is cut in half, their office budgets are cut in half, and their time in washington is cut in half. >> perry's plans for washington and all of the things political are fair game for my guest today, democratic political
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consultant ed espinosa. good to see you, gentlemen. >> good to see you. >> ed, you first, will perry's pledge help him with voters? is this his recovery plan after that debate moment? >> well, you know, he's getting back to his populist roots, but hep wants to go for term limits, fine, but he is the longest serving governor in the history of texas. probably not the right messenger for this kind of an issue. but i think it's one that might play to his base. but we'll see. you know, he still has $15 million in the bank, but money can't buy you love. and i think that rick perry's moment has passed him by. >> doug, do you see him as hypocritical here. will people interpret it as just that? >> no, i don't think people will interpret it as hypocritical. some of them, house republicans have already put in place. house speaker john boehner helped move to lower the budgets for the legislative branch of
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appropriations, changing the actual culture of washington. and for rick perry, you have to stop making jokes about oops and other things and get back to talking about messaging and issues and that's what he's doing. >> and part of his message, he says among those who would not be immune to these kind of cuts, term-limit cuts in particular, the supreme court. usually you're appointed for life. and so, ed, is he making a statement here that will find some traction? >> you know, this is a really interesting idea. the courts -- you see in the courts become more of a political football in recent years than you have in the past. this isn't one i've fully explored. bu but i would like to see this play out. it'd be interesting to see. it's done in certain states now. as a matter of fact, i think california and texas are two of them. but i think it could be an issue of rick perry's worth exploring. >> all right. so doug? >> well, this would require an
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amendment to the constitution. so it's something very difficult to be done. it's an idea certainly worth exploring, but i'll tell you, i worked in the united states senate in 2005, 2006 when we confirmed chief justice john roberts and justice alito. i want them to have very, very long tenure. maybe we can lessen the terms for some we don't like and lengthen those for the ones we do like. this will require a constitutional amendment, and that's a very difficult thing to do. >> thanks so much. good to see both of you. it's fair game. >> thank you. and remember, tuesday nights, kr cnn hosts the next presidential debate. that begins 8:00 p.m. eastern november 22nd right here on cnn. all right. this country's forces have fought alongside the u.s. and other allies since world war i, it covers 3 million square miles. indigenous people arrived there more than 40,000 years ago, where in the world are we talking about? we'll tell you next in globe trekking.
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miles per hour. it doesn't matter what knocks down your trees. that has been moved away and now it's just a severe thunderstorm warning for the possibility of wind on up toward alpharetta. let's go down to auburn into alabama. we do know that there's significant, little farther south, guys, all the way down. keep going. there we go, keep going. all the way down. the couple storms now that have moved from montgomery on the ground all the way through auburn with damage now moving across the alabama/georgia state line and into georgia proper. another tornado warning not that far, probably 20 to 30 minutes from phoenix city, there's columbus, and that is the southern section, this is south georgia, south alabama right now. many of these storms continue to rotate as we speak. they may put down small tornadoes, but the one that moved through montgomery. now we are getting pictures. significant damage from montgomery all the way through auburn. we'll keep you advised. >> thanks so much, chad.
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appreciate that. topping today's globe trekking. the u.s. is strengthening its military ties with australia. while visiting australia today, president barack obama announced plans to deploy up to 2,500 u.s. marines near darwin over the next couple of years. the troops will be onhand to respond to natural disasters and to keep an eye on possible military expansion in china. cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr is here with more details on this. barbara? >> well, you know, fred, the australian defense forces historically have been very close allies of u.s. military troops. they have fought together in iraq, afghanistan, and in many conflicts before that. now, what we're seeing is strengthening of those military ties, indeed. u.s. marines up to 2,500 of them will now start rotating into northern australia. darwin and northern australia conducting exercises, training, working with the australians. but also being that presence, that sort of u.s. military
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presence that the u.s. would very much like china to take notice of. nobody's looking ats hostilities against china, but china's an expanding military power in the pacific in that region of the world and the u.s. wants to be there to remind china it's there too. so this is a very strategic move sending a message and at the same time working with long time close military allies. >> and, of course, if you think of just particularly natural disasters, all that's happened in that region, this seems to e be -- that seems to have been kind of the spring board of this decision. >> yeah. you know, everything from the tsunami of a few years ago to some of the earthquakes and major fires that have occurred. the australians very capable of looking after their own affairs, but there's a lot of countries in that region that when these types of disasters strike, the situation in japan, for example, the tsunami, you know, they need a helping hand. and it's a long way from the
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united states to many of these places to get the aircraft, the troops, the supplies, the relief work going quickly. so this should help in that, as well. >> barbara starr, thanks so much for bringing that to us. >> sure. the alleged cover-up at penn state. we have new reaction from the mother of one of the accusers. and why our next guest says it has a lot to do with locker room culture at big schools with mega athletic programs. and from "f" to "a," how grades are being upgraded at one university. the fbi investigation next. for a hot dog cart. my mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace." so my parents went to bank of america. they met with the branch manager and they said, "look, we've got this little hot dog cart, and it's on a really good corner. let's see if we can buy the property." and the branch manager said, "all right, i will take a chance with the two of you."
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all right. following up on breaking news now. ominous weather activity in atlanta. our chad myers keeping a close watch on what could be tornadic activity there beyond the atlanta skyline. >> i think the word is could be, not issued yet. but this is so significant i just called my parents who live under this storm and said you need to cover. i want to tell you to take cover. if you live anywhere from about the lubbock school into dunwoody, i need you to be taking this storm, even though it's only a severe thunderstorm warning on it, you need to take a tornado warning on it. there's a tornado vortex signature right there, and that means the storm has rotated significantly enough that the computer models believe there could be a tornado. let me draw this out for you here. here's hard to see where we are.
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let me get a different graphic here so you can see what i'm talking about. here and then there and then there. there we go. so now we're drawing the city all the way around up here -- 575, here's 75 down through and into atlanta, georgia. north buckhead up into roswell, up into sandy springs. this is where the storm is spinning enough that i'm concerned enough to call my parents on up toward moving toward duluth in the next couple of minutes. the rotation is significant and expanding in size and getting tighter along the ground meaning a potential for a very strong storm with a potential tornado does exist. now, it's not there, it's not warning on it, but it takes 30 seconds for these things to pop up. it takes a couple of minutes for the weather service to put out the warning. take cover like you have a tornado going on right now north buckhead, into sandy springs and into roswell and even up -- as far north -- farther into dunwoody. get away from the windows, keep
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the kids inside, it's significant enough for me to worry about. >> absolutely. particularly unsettling because when we talk about buckhead and sandy springs area, densely populated. >> absolutely. >> no matter what time of day. a lot of people on the road, a lot of people in their taller office buildings, et cetera. so is it likely that this is a matter of minutes in which this kind of storm system could change and pick up speed? or is it a matter of over the next couple of hours you're going to be watching this? >> it started just to the south of austell, and the school over toward trinity, and it's moving over, this would be the long lake and this would be roswell road, sandy springs and across the perimeter on up and maybe toward norcross and duluth.
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when you're talking about a million people being affected, i have to go out and tell you about this. i'm getting this handed to me right now, national weather service indicating a tornado warning. there we go. for northwestern dekalb, fulton, and central guinnett county. this storm was near sandy springs there and there finally is the pink box. this is what i'm talking about, fred. warnings can happen that takes a couple of minutes for them to print this out. warnings happen, tornadoes come on the ground very quickly. that's why i wanted to get you advised on this. if you are anywhere doraville, sandy springs, and dunwoody, you need to be taking cover for the potential of a tornado on the ground. >> chad, there was a time when people would think a metropolitan area, downtown areas, it wouldn't be hit by tornadic activity until a couple of years ago, in particular, where a tornado came right through near the downtown area.
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in fact, impacting a portion of the cnn building here and a number of other sky rise -- tall sky-riser type buildings and hotels. and even a big loft community, as well. so atlanta now knows and feels rather conditioned that this could happen. it's not certainly the first time even a couple of years ago. but it hasn't happened that often. >> right. and you know, it's always a point when i lived in oklahoma city years ago, a tornado could never go through the city because there's this heat dome. well, we know that doesn't happen. that is not the case. cities are not protected. in general, there's just more land that's not a city that is a city so it's a lottery where these things go, and that's why you can never count on where you live being in a valley or hill to stop a tornado from hitting you. it has nothing to do with that. and this will prove it now as that tornado warning, watch where it's going, moving quite quickly to the east. smyrna you're out of it, sandy
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springs, duluth, you're in it. that's how quickly these things continue to move and how quickly a tornado can come to the ground. this tells me a lot more than that old graphic does. this is much more updated in that. here would be doraville. this is the north end perimeter and where the signature is right now. show let's move it ahead. the doppler doesn't update, oh, maybe every three to five minutes here. we'll move it ahead. this is about norcross. you are all in the clear, you can come out of your hiding places, safe houses right now, safe places. from norcross, duluth, up here, this would be the peach tree area, up here into norcross, and this here, that road is i-85. this rotation will move to you within the next 10 to 15 minutes. you need to be taking cover right now. we also had that tornado last time, the one you talked about. i'll get to a different map so people can understand. this is hard to look at home, but i need to use it.
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the one we had a couple of years ago that moved over the cnn center seemed down and kind of came into atlanta like this. this storm is coming in from a different direction, coming in from douglasville, across to the south of ostell and into the duluth metro area and up into buford. this pink box shows the tornado could be on the ground there and the rotion i think is still significant enough you should be taking cover anywhere from if your outside the perimeter now, this is doraville, the doraville metro stop there and up into i-85 and the northeast of there. this rotation here, this spin, a little bit less intense than it was earlier, and we don't have that triangle anymore with that tornado vortex signature. the computer doesn't believe that anymore, at least. and we'll see. here's another report from dave. thank you, buddy. i'm a meteorologist out of nashville visiting atlanta. this is from the twitter feed. i just witnessed a very weak funnel cloud near 285 and 75 ten
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minutes ago, strong updraft, lives lifted into the air. do you still have an e-mail? that will be coming into our ireport there from up there in the same general vicinity, that would be vinings, that would be all the way from vinings into sandy springs and up to the north and to the northeast now as you're moving up into duluth, take cover for a tornado. this is not an f-5, not an f-4, not the kansas tornado picki you up and sending you down in texas, but enough of a wind damage, wind, trees, falling on your car, house, kids inside, pets inside, because winds at 70 to 80 miles per hour could certainly do damage to you, your home, and your property. >> you were talking about two systems in tandem, a auburn, alabama area, it was one you were closely watching outside closely. how is that alabama activity? >> let's go back to that.
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guys, if you can hear me in the control room, this won't move. slide me all the way down i-85, and the storm that came out of montgomery. here we go, this is great. thank you, guys. to the north north of tuskegee, auburn, alabama, we know there has been damage in auburn and now moved across to the north of phoenix city, south of lynette and then moving up toward the northeast. this would be moving south of atlanta proper, probably south of peachtree city there is thomaston there lagrange, south of lagrange, this would be bucks county, peachtree city, probably south of there. back up again, take me back and go to the south, guys that will tell you the next storm system that will be moving very close to phoenix city this one here, rotation is right here and phoenix city, right there moving across the river or the lake, depending on where you are here in phoenix city and then back into georgia. all of the storm also tornadoes on the ground, creating damage throughout much of the early afternoon.
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we don't expect them to slow down any time soon, probably not until after dark, fred. >> my goodness. this is a long haul then, people need to take cover or come one their emergency plans it wasn't long ago you and i were talking about having those emergency kits ready and hopefully, this is -- this is a case in which people were listening about that warning, getting those emergency kilts and they have those at the ready. meantime, charged you mentioned that one weather person who was from nashville visiting atlanta took some pictures, likely to be sending that in, we are encouraging anyone who is in the atlanta suburbia area, perhaps the alabama, auburn, area, to send in your i report images. don't put your life on the line, don't take any unnecessary risks which to do so >> absolutely. >> if you have that kind of video or interesting stories to tell about what you're experiencing what you're seeing, you need to send them to i reports.com. >> here is the rub with that today, fred, is that these are called hp storms, high precip storms. a lot of rain with the rotation.
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and even when this storm went over montgomery, alabama, and rotated all the way into auburn, alabama, you couldn't see it unless you were right under it unless you were in it, because there was so much rain going around it, it was shielded, it was curtained by the rain. so, you didn't know you were in trouble until you were already there. so, i reports probably going to be few and far between here unless you were in it. if you are in it i want you to be away from the whip dose. if you can see it, you're in the wrong place. i want you in a closet, away from this. this would move you ahead, see where we are going here, this would be norcross, looks like i would say the rotation tightening up a little bit here from norcross, now moving into duluth and that's why the tornado warning continues right there. when we see colors that are different, this is the doppler effect. the doppler effect came about and was called the doppler effect by the professor doppler, if you listen to a train, as you're sitting there at a train track and you're waiting for the train to go by as the gate's by, you hear the train coming at you and it is a different sound than
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when the train is leaving. when the train goes by the sound of that raining the whistle, goes down, it gets lower, lower in frequency. that's the difference that the radar can listen for and see whether the rain is moving this way or this way. now, if all the rain is moving in one direction, there is no issue. if the rain is moving like this, louder here, or lower, higher, lower, higher, that means there's rotation in the storm, that mean there is a potential for tornadoes in the storm and that's when the doppler effect happens and when tornado warnings are printed out, fred. >> fascinating stuff. potential dangers here, we are talking about this storm didn't just start, particularly in the atlanta area, raining quite heavily overnight, all morning long, talking about very saturated grounds, trees coming down, snapping powerlines, all that in addition to this potential tornadic activity, or the a least high winds. >> yeah and it's -- the threat here is not that we have a large tornado on the ground. the threat is that we have a small tornado in the midst of a
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very populated area. even an f-1, 100-mile-an-hour wind or 80-mile-an-hour wind, even a zero, will do damage and take the roof from your neighbor and throw it into your house, break your windows and if it would do that in the middle of clinton, oklahoma, or wa tonga or edmund, a bigger place than it used to be, wouldn't get as much damage because the houses are farther apart, the population farther apart. this is a major metro area, i can't count, maybe 4 to 5 million people just in that big red square right there, that is why it is such a significant storm at this point. that's why if because of the difference in color here and here, and it is moving towards this way, right up into duluth, right aloichblgt-85 this would be satellite boulevard, the mall of georgia, eventually up toward there, this is the area you need to be taking cover now if you are in the mall, don't go outside your car, cars are terrible places to be. if your kids are in school, don't get them. you don't want to be in carpool line get them. let the kids in school, officials, administrators blow to to put these kids. probably safer in school than
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your car, for sure and probably safer than your home, they know where to put the kids, fire officials tell them exactly the safest place in the schools, let the kids there, don't pick them up until after school or this is over, fred. >> chad, while you're not saying we are talking about confirmed tornado on the ground or anything of that nature, talking about high winds, potential for tornadic activity. take me back to a couple years ago when there was confirmed tornado activity, f-1 tornado coming through downtown atlanta. what preceded it? what can we glean from that experience and how do we use that to anticipate potentially what could unfold today? >> you know, i don't think we even have any idea what could have happened to that tornado in atlanta, had the game -- there was a basketball game, it was an ncaa tournament going on in the georgia dome that went into i believe it went into overtime. had that -- that game been over on time and people were in the streets, hundreds of people would have been cut by flying glass. here at cnn, we lost over 400
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windows. the omni hotel from south to north tower lost hundreds, if not thousands of windows a building downtown, the westin, that didn't have windows halfway in it for about two years until they could figure out how to put new windows in it. this was a big storm in downtown atlanta and if you consider how many people were downtown at that time but they were in the georgia dome, the georgia dorm had a tear in the roof, they didn't get hit, could much paired to the people walking to the car, all the shingles and glass flying around, would have been a devastating storm for the people. >> live pictures of atlanta, look at the skyline one more time, we are looking at a portion downtown and looking to midtown, you look at that, it doesn't look that ominous, it doesn't look that frightening, but north of this scene here is what we are talking about, when we say the buckhead community you sandy springs, duluth, et cetera. it is kind of in the horizon there, where it is dark. >> yes. >> just beyond that skyline. >> that skyline now pointing off
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toward the northeast and that would be the direction you would see something, maybe even off toward the east but you can't see anything because it's raining. the rain -- even if we had a tornado on the ground, you would never see it that is why you don't want to go outside and try to look for t you don't want to go take a picture. i want you away from the whip dose in the basement of your home, in the safest place that you know, duluth, norcross and on up to the northeast from there follow the i-85 corridor all the way up to discovery mills mall. i want you in the basement away from windows. the kids where they are if they are in school, bring the pets inside, kids inside if they are at home. you need to stay away from this storm it is still rotating significantlism i have two different colors right next to each either, one mile northeast of norcross, downtown norcross right now, fred. >> all right. thanks so much, chad. we will continue to keep a close watch on this potentially dangerous activity in the atlanta area as well, south of atlanta in the auburn, alabama, area >> and then as you were hearing chad explain that system is
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i don't need to look any farther. welcome back, breaking news on cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. let's talk about this tornado watch for the atlanta metro area until 7:00 tonight. take a look here at the radar. you will see that conditions are severe for a lot of you watching right now. you know what else this is. right now, half-hour delays at the world's busiest airport. in fact, let's take a live look, guys, let's bring up the live picture, pretty much in our backyard here, we are at the cnn world headquarters in atlanta this is our view. chad meyer, i popped by the window before i came in the studio. obviously ominous, i can't say that enough. tell me what you're seeing in and around the greater atlanta area. >> we had a storm, brooke, that started in dallas, georgia, went to the south of smyrna and
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binings, right across the river, over sandy springs, through dunwoody, now as it has traveled across here, this would be dunwoody proper and eventually toward duluth. this storm is still rotating. no indication that storm was down at any time. aid report from a reporter in northwest atlanta, almost -- i would call it vinings or smyrna, one of those sminings areas, literally video she took of rotating storms and rotating clouds, almost kind of suction spots, sucking leaves and branches into the air. >> oh, wow. >> no visible -- you get so close to this, you can't see what you have. the issue with this storm, there has been so much rain everywhere and the rotation would be here that you would never be able to see a tornado on the ground because you would have to look through the rain. the rotation has slowed down a little bit, but it is right over the town of duluth right now, heading toward suwannee, eventually maybe north of lawrenceville. if you are in this box, you are still in a tornado warping and
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you need to be taking cover. duluth and to the east. just over suwannee, lawrenceville and the like. >> chad, how quickly is this thing move anything heard you say the word slow. how slow? >> 35, 40 miles an hour, pretty slow. sometimes we could have them, we had them a couple days ago, moving 70 miles per hour, impossible to get out of the way of. another thing here, on the road so many red lights, some traffic lights, so much traffic, you cannot get out of the watch stay home, leave the kids in school, officials know what to do. get in a safe place away from windows, duluth toward discovery mills mall, lawrenceville. >> chad myers, thank you, we will go back to you when necessary. also as i take a quick peek on the fly, my twitter page, just tweeted out, please, if you are in the atlanta area, don't put yourself at risk but if you can snap a photo, send me a tweet, tell me what you're hearing, my twitter handle is @brook bcnn. let's take a moment and get you caught up on everything else making news this hour.
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rapid fire beginning with the u.s. is increasing its military presence in australia. president obama revealed the plan during a joint news conference with australian prime minister julia gillard. >> our u.s. marines will begin rotating through darwin for joint training and exercises. our air force will rotate additional aircraft through more airfields in northern australia. this in these rotation, take place on australian bases, will bring our militaries even closer and make them even more effective. >> and while u.s. officials say this increased presence is necessary in case of natural disasters, they also acknowledge china's growing military was also a fact torch the president kur represently in australia as part of his nine-day trip through the asia pacific region. a group of deserters from the syrian army claim they are now striking sites important to the assad regime, including intelligence bases. also today the arab league said
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again that syria's membership in their organization is suspended. the united nations says 3,000 people have died in the violence in syria. one week. one week. that is how long the super committee has to figure out how to cut at least $1.2 trillion from the deficit over the course of the next ten years. and while some of these committee member, keep in mind, 12 in total, six republicans, six democrats, they are confident they will reach this deal, most americans, a lot of you you not convinced. take a look at these numbers. according to this new cnn/orc poll, 78% of americans say it is unlikely this so-called super committee will reach a deal. okay. getting news in my ear, forgive the pause. we have been covering this shooting at the white house. a couple of bits of ammunition have been found the course of the last couple of days, i'm just learning. angie, feel free to continue telling me, but an arrest has been made this suspect, correct
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me if i am wrong, he was 21 years -- oscar romero ortega hernandez arrested at a hotel near -- tell me the city again, indiana, pennsylvania. this happened at the end of last week, the secret service, multiple jurisdictions trying to track this guy down. using an ak-47, a couple to bit office ammunition the past couple of days, multiple jurisdiction trying to find this guy you 21 years of age, originally from idaho. now an arrest has been made. we will talk to secret service here in just a couple of moments. now, we will take a break. be right back. gonna tell them all ♪g th, [ male announcer ] the most headroom per dollar of any car in america. from $10,990. the all-new nissan versaedan. innovation upsized. innovation for all. ♪ ♪ small talk, big thoughts, gonna tell them all ♪
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u.s. secret service has captured the man who might have fired on the white house, 21-year-old oscar ortega hernandez, captured in indiana, pennsylvania. he was described as having an extensive criminal record. gurntds were heard friday night. police are now trying to determine if a bullet found yesterday that pierced this window at the white house is also linked to this suspect. bulletproof glass at the white house. there was no concern for the president's safety. another bullet was found nearby on the south side of the white house lawn. john tomlinson is a former deputy assistant director of the
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secret service in washington. john, let me just get to you react to the news this young man is now in custody and what can you share? do you know how secret service was able to track him down? >> i don't have the details on how he was tracked document i guess the important part is he was captured and no injuries were the result, either by law enforcement officers or the defendant. >> john, tell me what you do know as far as what happened late friday night when these gunshots were heard near the white house and also, you know, ballist ballistics, what kind of weapon was he using, et cetera? >> because it is a continuing investigation, i would be hesitant to share what caliber of weapon it is. what i can share is that with the state of technology and ballistics and other supportive mechanisms you can the secret service and law enforcement will be able to determine whether or
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not the bullets found on the white house grounds and one that attempted to penetrate a window, whether or not they were fired from that weapon that law enforcement has in its custody. >> my next question, having lived in washington, it is widely known, you can she, snipers on the roof of the white house and security on the perimeter, my question is how anyone could get that close and fire shots without security perhaps seeing them first or does it happen just that fast? >> in security, there are no absolutes, there are risks. if you use the white house as -- there are tiers of protection that -- partner with the secret service, meaning that the metropolitan police department and park police and other
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organizations, they work to establish those per rim terse of protection and a there is also opportunities for them to enhance those -- ebb hans those per rim terse using technology. in this particular circumstance, you'll note that the president was out of residence. >> right. >> there are some things that, without going into methods or means, there are some measures that are taken in response to an avail on the south lawn. those same precautions are ratcheted down just a bit when the president is not in residence and when there's no formal events on the white house grounds. >> we are going to get to our correspondent covering the white house today for a little more on that but let me ask you, i think you sort of alluded to this, the fact that this built, it didn't penetrate this glass, it is
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bulletproof glass at the white house but it hit the window and that other bullet was found around the exterior of the white house just yesterday. what does that suggest to you, john? does that suggest gaps in security? >> no. not at all. i think what it suggests is that in any legitimate tote, you have to measure the rights of the people together with the protection of their elected officials, in this case, the president, first family and vip guests as well as staff in the white house complex. as you get farther away from the white house -- remember, this wasn't a handgun, this was a rifle. rifles by their very nature have greater velocity and able to fire longer distances, so, that has to be taken in -- that has to be taken into consideration. i think one of the positives of this review that's ongoing now is an opportunity to interview mr. hernandez and try to ascertain from him exactly --
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exactly not just his motive but also where he was located and the distance from which a shot was fired. >> correct. >> all those things will go into a final report that the secret service and its protection partners in establish and share on an as-needed basis. >> okay, john tomlinson, thank you so much. also as i mentioned, we are going to talk to athena jones who is doing some reporting on this story as well, get a little bit more perhaps on the suspect and how -- how police -- how secret service eventually found him in pennsylvania. but, a teenager has been beaten by his classmates at school. now his parents are suing school officials, saying they knew the boy was being tormented and didn't do enough to stop it. more on that coming up. also, rick perry's campaign is on the defense now. why they say a worker was checking for u.s. citizenship at a recent perry event. and where is he? where is he? it is a political tick ter treat
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all right. back to the breaking story, the shots fire ted white house late friday night. the pittsburgh field office for the u.s. secret service, in conjunction with pennsylvania state police, have now found this suspect here, oscar romero ortega hernandez in a town called indiana, pennsylvania. let's go to the white house to atheme nah jones. athena what do you know? >> reporter: they arrested him about -- at 12:35 p.m. they have been looking for him, of course, since friday night when police believe that about 700 or 800 yards south of the white house here that ortega hernandez pulled over on constitution avenue right there at constitution and 16th between the white house and the washington monument and fired shots toward the white house. now it wasn't until tuesday morning that police were able -- investigators found the shell casings at the white house. these bullet, i should say, bullet rounds. one penetrated that outer
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window, really old windows on the white house, but it was stopped by that bulletproof glass. the other one was found nearby and so they have been looking for him. as you may know, police have already stopped ortega hernandez earlier on friday in arlington, virginia, around 11 a.m. he was on foot. people -- reports that he was acting suspiciously, they stopped him they questioned him. they didn't arrest him at the time but they did take some of the pictures that they then used on the fliers that is some of the latest background on the suspect. >> one question i didn't get a chance to ask our former secret service agent we just had on air if this happened before and wolf wry minded me it was '95, under the clinton administration, when there was someone who was a shooter on the north lawn, correct? >> reporter: absolutely. also reports about other dates as well, in 1994, in 2001, so, this is not the first time that there have been incidents around these grounds. but i spoke with the secret service earlier this morning and they said that this occurred on the very, very outer perimeter, it was rather far away.
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they said the security worked in this instance, in the sense you have all these layers of security, various per rim terse and also these ballistics, bulletproof glass windows which you of course, helped keep that built from penetrating all the watch i should mention that the obamas are out of the country right now. >> they have been in hawaii and now australia. athena jones, thank you so much. i just mentioned him, he is here in the studio, wolf blitzer. >> i remember that shooting. i was the white house correspondent for cnn and it was very, very scarry. it was on the north lawn of the white house. some guy, a saturday morning and just started shooting, spraying along the north portico, which is the official entrance where dignitaries come for state dinners, as you have been many occasion. some of those state differents at the white house. if you see those pictures, it was very, very frightening and i remember that plane that landed on the south lawn, a small plane and skidded all the way up to the south portico of the white house, i was covering that. so, this is fritd thing when you see this. and it is one of t reasons why after the oklahoma city bombing
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in '95, they basically shutdown pennsylvania avenue outside of the white house. they don't want people to get too close to what's going on. >> no driving. >> the fact that this guy allegedly managed to penetrate a window on the south side of the white house over there. >> still frightening. >> even though the first family, they weren't there or anything, but still scary. >> so politics. >> yes. >> rick perry. controversy. what's the story? >> a little controversy. they screwed up a little bit, but not a big deal. i don't think. they were checking to make sure that there were no non-u.s. citizens that could come to one of his town halls and that would have been inappropriate. they said somebody just screwed up and said, yes, if you are a non-u.s. citizen, you can still come to an open meeting, a town hall that he was having. so it was just a little -- a little embarrassment. he has got bigger issues than that. >> a minor kerfuffle. >> the other candidates, bigger issues than that as well. it happens, there is a screwup, somebody not supposed to go in supposed to go in, as you know. >> yes are i do know.
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it hey, we are going to tease why you're here, a super special event. >> i'm in atlanta right now. >> atlanta right now, as am i, yes, that's where we are. you showed me pictures in your phone, maybe if you are nice enough to share some of those photos. >> i tweeted them -- i tweeted earlier, @wolf blitzer cnn. you can see some of those pictures of what i'm doing here, why i came this morning early. >> let's wait until next hour. got make them wait. wolf blitz per, we will see them next hour. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> such a treat to have you here. now this the ceos of fannie mae and freddie mac are being grilled today on capitol hill. >> y'all come from a different world that i come from fichltd made $1 million, i sure would know when i made it, that's for sure. >> so, how exactly are they defending their big bonuses? we are going to hear from them next. and then a teenager beaten by classmates at school, his parents stay is because of his middle eastern heritage. now, they are suing school officials for not doing enough
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here is a question for you if by any chance you ever would make $1 million, would you remember that moment you first became a millionaire? think about it. i'm asking because that question was actually put to the executives running the government-backed mortgage giants, both freddie mack and fannie may and come to light recently those executives got multimillion dollar pay packages when their agencies lost billions of dollars. they went to capitol hill today to defend their pay packages and it got, as you can imagine, pretty tense, when the house oversight chairman quizzed them about their pay history.
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watch this. >> did you ever have an expectation that you were going to make not just seven figures but several of them, that you would make $8 or $9 million every two years? >> congressman, i think we all hope to aspire to advance in our careers and advance our compensation as we do. >> okay. but you made $9.3 million the last two years. while the president made $800,000. do you think that's okay? >> congressman, i have been brought in and asked to take on this role as ceo so that i can put in place a management team that can help achieve the goals of conservatorship, which is stabilize the company, provide liquidity to the market and help -- >> okay, but you're still losing money, you've taken $90 billion and you're getting $9 million a year. let me go on to mr. halderman. now, bloomberg and other organizations were concerned when you came on board because
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you don't come with a background like mr. williams does, basically, you're not qualified to runting ortion if one were to look at your historic resume. that was a concern. but you did come out of the private sector. hopefully you remember -- what did you make the last year you were at putnam? >> i don't -- i don't recall. >> did you make more than $1 million? >> yes, i did. >> was your compensation tied to performance? >> yes, it was. >> it was tied tightly to performance in which you could literally look at the yields of accounts or the profits of the organization in order to determine what your bonus would be? >> it was tied to the performance of the funds. it was tied to the economic performance of the company and i had equity participation as well. >> now, equity participation always assumes that the stock goes up, right? >> it doesn't always, no. it -- it happened to during my tenure. >> so your options were worthless if your stock went up -- or went down? >> that would be correct.
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>> okay. so at -- freddie mack, has your stock gone up? >> in my tenure it has not gone up. >> okay. i just want to make sure that 7.8 million over the last two years is base old a company who is not worth more today. as a matter of fact, just for the record, if i were to look at the net profits of -- for fannie mae from 2003 to 2010, i'd find the net profits with a $10 billion, $11 billion loss. at freddie mac, i would find a $72 billion net loss over that same period of nearly a decade. so oh including the time before you came in which the books were being effectively cooked by taking in bad debt that was going to go bad but, in fact, putting it on, they were paper profits of $4 and $5 billion but over that period of time, you're in an organization that certainly lost 14 billion in 2010 and is going to lose equally or more this year. so, that's the organization
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you're running for $4 million a year is that right? >> yes. we have lost money due to loans that were put on the books during the period 2005 to -- >> okay, my time has expired. i just want to get one last thing in for the record. mr. dimarco, from what i can tell, your $230,000 salary is all you get, right? >> yes, sir, all i get is my salary. >> and you do stay for that menial amount of money for some unknown reason, even though you could make money elsewhere? >> i'm still here, mr. chairman. >> thank you, mr. dimarco. recognize the ranking member. >> thank you very much. mr. dimarco, i must tell you, mr. haledman and mr. williams, y'all come from a different world than the one i come from. if i had made $1 million, i sure would know when i made it. that's for sure. >> so, for some context here, those execs are each set to receive about $6 million for the year 2011 as both companies are asking for billions of more
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dollars to cover losses. parents of a 17-year-old indiana student beaten at school are now suing the president of the school board and multiple other top school officials. they say he was repeatedly bullied because of his middle name, osama, and because of his middle eastern heritage. also, his parents claim school officials did nothing to stop t ted rolands is following this story for us today and first, i just have to ask, how is this young man, physically speaking, and also, what kind of suit are we talking about? >> reporter: well, it is a civil suit right now you brooke, this took place at st. john, indiana. how is he? his attorneys say he is physically doing better. you take a look at the pictures though, he was obviously roughed up and he claims that he was roughed up at the hands of a group of this case were harassing him in excess of a year's time. that's why the parents over this young man filed this lawsuit. they claim that they went to the school, they went to the principal, nothing was done when it was harassment, verbal harassment, and then this
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happened to their son. they held a news conference this week when they announced a civil suit against the district. take a listen. >> painful. name calling. >> the name they call him, they call him terrorist, they call it we killed your uncle, bin laden. we had nothing to do with that we are good americans. like everybody. >> the family is from jordan. they are a christian family, by the way, we should note, so, this wasn't -- didn't have a rae limp joyce bent to it or maybe these kids didn't even know any difference. but the bottom line here is they are not going after the kids or the kids' families, they are going after the school. they filed a lawsuit which named the superintendent of the district, the school board president. the district attorney in lake county is looking into this and we actually do expect charges to be filed, at least against one young man who is 18. we expect those charges, battery charges to be announced later today. >> so, possibly one charge
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there. ted what is the school saying? >> nothing. they have not returned any calls. they are making no comments on the record. obviously, they are trying to figure out how to deal with all of this but they are not speaking publically it at all. >> then also, you know, i was reading about this story, apparently, this young man had been getting a bit of attention for his rap videos and that's apparently, according to these reports, when some of the tension grew. i mean, you mentioned it had been simmering for, you said a year? >> yeah, according to the parents and this lawsuit, he had been verbally harassed about a year. a couple years ago, started producing his own music and was posting some of his rap videos online and apparently, a lot of the harassment had to do with the music he was making, whether it was jealousy you who knows the motive here, what it was, they say that was really at the crux of this, that they -- this young man was getting harassed because of his music and that they told school officials and nothing was done. >> okay. let us know if that charge is
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filed. ted rowlands for us. thank you so much, ted. >> you bet. also today for the first time, we are hearing from the once graduate assistant, now assistant coach, who says he witnessed one of those attacks in the penn state sex abuse scandal. we have an e-mail he has sent to his friends. also today, new details from the mother of one of the alleged victims of jerry sandusky, how she says he reacted when he heard former coach sandusky on television this week denying the charges against him. be right back. [ female announcer ] we all age differently. roc® multi-correxion 4 zone moisturizer with roc®retinol and antioxidants. lines, wrinkles, and sun damage will fade. roc multi-correxion. correct what ages you.
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we are finally hearing from one of the people taking the most heat in the penn state coach scandal that is assistant coach mcqueary. intensely criticized for not taking enough action to stop what was seeing in that shower stall and immediately report t but now, in an e-mail to a former classmate, mcqueary says he did do more than what we've beened to. the morning call newspaper in allentown, pennsylvania, has the e-mail, let me read it to you h "i did stop it not physically, but made sure it was stopped when i left that locker room." and he indicates he reported the alleged rape to police. mcqueary writes did he have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police. "mk query notes that he is getting hammered, his words, for doing what he thought was the
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right thing at that time. he alluded to how difficult this has all been on him in a quick interview with cbs news. just describe your emotions right now. >> all over the place. just shaken. >> crazy? >> crazy. >> you said what, like a -- >> snow globe. >> penn state university has not released any records that might back up mcqueary's side of the story and doesn't have. drew griffin tells us why. >> it's the type of information woe normally get in the united states from any public institution, especially a police department, the records, the incident reports, all the information you rely on to get the facts to know who knew what when and where. but penn state, you will not find that because penn state got itself an exemption from this state's open records act. at the same time, in 2000, 2008
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went legislature was discussing this new law you penn state's president personally went to the legislature and asked to be he exempt to make sure the records were kept private. >> what that means, in essence is that while every other commonwealth agency, governor's office, police departments, townships, school districts are subject to this law and you would be required to provide public record, penn state is exempt. that came as a result of a series of lobbying efforts through the house of representatives that was taking a look at rewriting pennsylvania's right to know law which was really among the worst in the nation. and at that juncture, the president of penn state was one of the key lobbyists testifying before the house committee on -- i believe it was august 7, 2007, seeking an exceemption for penn state. >> we tried reach graham spanier at his home did. not get an answer from the former penn state president. we know what he told the
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legislature when he was seeking this exemption. he wanted penn state to be exempt from the records because he needed to protect the competitiveness of the university, that he was concern about the cost of compliance and that a huge bureaucracy would have to be built to answer questions and open those public records. looking back on it now, it has a whole different look. >> drew griffin, thank you there on campus at penn state. also, want to pass this along, there is new fallout today from jerry sandusky's claim he was just "horsing around" with his alleged victims. i want you to listen to the mother of the boy known now as victim number 1 on "good morning, america." >> it sickened me that he would be on tv. i think he made himself look more guilty. no it's not games. it's a planned out strategy to groom children to moll les. makes me really sad my son can't go out and have a normal life. he can't go out and hang out at the mall, because he might run
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into jerry. he get go to the mall and a job and do what he want does. that aggravates me. he should be in jail. >> the boy's mother is also outraged that sandusky isn't in jail. she says her son cried when he heard sandusky's horseplay defense because he is afraid the former coach will walk free. it's official, italy has a new prime minister. we have the video of the big swearing-in ceremony in this historic rome residence. and then, is it really that dangerous to sleep with your little baby? if you believe this ad, it's as dangerous as putting your child to bed with a butcher knife. you see that? got the facts for you coming up. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics...
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when we first brought you this story of the tortured nanny who took care of moammar gadhafi's grandkids, your response was tremendous. so, today, we have an update. but first, a little background, and a warning, the pictures you are about to see are tough to look at. you will see the nanny, shwiga mullah, this was her several weeks ago, burns covering her head, much of her body. this is how cnn's dan rivers found her, forgive me, it wasn't weeks ago, it was august, august in triply, left behind by the gadhafi family as they fled to safety. she told cnn that gadhafi's daughter-in-law punished her for failing to keep a toddler quiet. listen as she explains the punishment. >> translator: she took know a bathroom and she tied my hands behind my back and tied my feet. she taped my mouth. and she started pouring the boiling water on my head like
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this. >> her wounds, absolutely horrific. and so many people offered help after seeing dan's reporting and she is now getting medical attention at this international burn clinic in malta, an island just north of libya. and here's dan rivers again with an update on her condition. >> reporter: shkegya mullah is continuing to make progress for the horrific burps she suffered at the hands of anna and hannah gadhafi in libya. she arrived in labor ya. we were there to see her touch down and she was escorted into the hospital where she has been ever since. she has had two different surgical procedures, one on the 27th of september that dealt with the front of her torso, which had been terribly burned when, as she claims, it gadhafi poured boiling water over her head and her torso. they have done a skin graft on her front. the second procedure in october
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on the 15th of october has dealt with her scalp area. again, awfully burnt. they haven't done a skin graft there, because they are wanting to try to allow some of the hair follicles to grow back in and those that can survive and it is something that she has asked for. so, they are really just cleaning those wounds to try to let them heal and the fantastic news is they think she could be discharged as early as next week and become an outpatient, which will mean that she can go and stay in an apartment that the maltese government are going to provide for her and get some sense of normality back into her life. she will continue with the physiotherapy she has been receiving to try to free up her shoulder and, of course, the psychological counseling that's been so important for her to get over this trauma. dan rivers, cnn, barcelona, spain. >> here is hoping she gets better. thank you. take a look at this a little baby sleeping next to a butcher knife this is a new public service ad to try to stop what
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they call co-sleep egg. so, is it really that dangerous to sleep with your little baby? elizabeth cohen is here next. but first, as we are just about an hour away from the closing bell, a quick check there you go, the dow down 20 points, sitting 12,075. you can keep an eye on those numbers, doug so cnnmoney.com. elizabeth cohen, next. ♪ [ male announcer ] we're not employers or employees. not white collar or blue collar or no collars. we are business in america. and every day we awake to the same challenges. but at prudential we're helping companies everywhere find new solutions to manage risk, capital and employee benefits, so american business can get on with business. ♪
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well, here is a call firefighters don't exactly get every day, rescue a teenager from a chimney. police believe this soot-covered young man tried to break in this metro atlanta house right around 3 this morning. neighbors heard him crying for help from said chimney around noon today. there he is, finally on the ground and cuffed.
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you feel bad for him? take a listen. >> i asked him what he was doing there and he said he was there from -- since last night. >> since last night? >> since last night. so, i guess he spent the night there >> wow. that's long time to be stuck in a chimney, isn't it? i'm guessing he won't be trying that ever again. now to this, the shocking ad campaign about protecting babies is getting a lot of attention from parents in wisconsin. many parents are outraged over this, part of milwaukee's campaign to turn around infant mortality rates. so the health department is warning parents that sleeping with their kids in bed is as dangerous as having are the baby lying next to a butcher's knife. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is here working the story, in reading the story, there have been, what, ten deaths so far in the city of milwaukee with -- >> i just got off the phone with tom baret, the mayor of milwaukee, he says every year, about ten kids die of sids or suffocation while sleeping in an adult bed.
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ten kids a year. so he said when his commission -- health commissioner came to him with those ads, his initial reaction was, yikes, those babies are a little -- >> he thought it was too much, the mayor? >> he had that initial reaction, he said, look if ten kids are dieing a year, we need to get people's attention, we need to get them to stop sleeping with theiren fants, so rk-- their in you have to make a dramatic impression to get foam do what they should do. >> where will the ads be shown? >> bus stops and other places and you can find them on the internet as well. >> so does this mean, putting on your senior medical correspondent hat, does this mean, equating a child sleeping next to a butcher's knife versus a mother or father sleeping with an infant in the bed, is that really equatable? >> here is the problem with an adult bed, brooke are the problem is adult beds have mattresses that are soft, a baby if they turn onto their stomach they can suffocate, adult beds of the van pillows and soft blank yet baby's mouth would go
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up against them and suffocate and a parent could always turn over onto a baby as well, why the american academy of pediatrics years ago said mom and dad, do not sleep with your kid. i will say there are other respectable authorities who say that sleeping with your baby is good that it gives them a sense of sort of warmth and belonging and good for their development and this is a controversy that's gone on and on. of course, a lot of parents sleep with their babies not out of any philosophy but because they are exhausted, the baby will stop crying if you put them in bed with you. i think what parents need know that sleeping with a baby in your bed, you are taking a certain risk, a risk you will turn over on them, a risk they will suffocate on a pillow, maybe middle ground, there are these bassinets that kind of attach to the bed. and so you can put them in that bassinet rather than in bed with you. but you know, there are ramifications to sleeping with your bay bind if it's something you choose to do you should know that. >> okay. good to know, elizabeth cohen, thank you so much.
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court,trying to convince this judge to set bond to get out of jail, remember these guys, 50s, 60s, 70s, apparently a little hard of hearing. they got the beans, castor beans to making the deadly tons, ricin. court documents say they plan to spread this powder all over major atlanta highway, also drop it from a plane over washington, d.c. their goal? it's in this quote found in an fbi affidavit and attributed to one of the defendants. let me read it for you. they say, quote, when it comes to saving the constitution, that means some people gotta die. we are starting to get a look at how the men will defend themselves in court. george howell is back here with the update. you just got off the phone with the defense attorney. >> just got off the phone with michael trost, dan roberts' attorney. right now, all four attorneys are in court making their defense. the judge cleared the courtroom for a moment because of severe weather that's moving through north georgia. >> right. >> but they are back in court right now and they are painting a picture, basically i brooke. you have veterans, you have
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former government officials. not the people you would imagine to be connected to a plot like this. also, they say the ages, talking 67 to 73 years old. defense attorneys basically say these men are just too old to really be a threat. in fact, there's one thing that stood out with fred thomas, his wife in court says he is so frail, he can't even hang a picture on the wall. so at this point, they are just casting doubt on whether these men could even carry it out. >> okay, so that is a look at part of their defense. agents, they didn't seize too many weapons, did they? >> they did seize a lot of weapons, 52 weapons and -- >> wow. >> 30,000 rounds of ammunition that is a lot. but basically, they are saying this thomas' son in court said these were collectors items, for the most part and hunting guns so, not the type of weapons that would be used to attack or kill people. in fact, when you talk to family and friends, they make the same argument these men were just not a threat threat. listen to what one relative told
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must one soundbite we found. >> i have known the man for 30 years, and he is always honest, loving, kind, gentle man. he never raises his voice. he has never harmed anybody. i never seen the man angry. >> and interview after interview, what they say that the men just weren't a threat, not the people whew imagine to be connected to this thing. >> so, what's next for them? and also just quickly remind us how they got caught, was it an informant? >> it was an informant. right now, we are hearing more about the things allegedly recorded by that informant. so, that is mainly what the prosecutors are looking at. what's next, we will find out if the judge will grand bond but we are hearing the case is still happening right now, waiting for a decision on that. >> george howl, keep us posted. thank you, sir. now, top of the hour, watch this. rolling on, i'm brooke baldwin. here is a look at some of the stories we have now the top of the hour. the manhunt suddenly over after
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a bullet hit a window whole at the white house. also, the latest twists in the penn state child rape scandal. millionaires tell congress raise our taxes, raise them. and oil blows past 100 bucks a barrel. time to play reporter roulette. i want to begin at the white house with athena jones. what can you tell us about this man this 21-year-old man who was -- who is now in custody. nell where he was found. >> he was found in indiana, pennsylvania, which is in western pennsylvania between pittsburgh and altoona. the 65 miles outside of altoona. i just spoke with the secret service not too long ago to try to learn more about how they tracked him down. the officials i spoke with said that ortega her nen nan dez had been on what's called national lookout since friday august bulletin to all their office and they had been looking at his past associates, look at places they had known to visit before. there in the pittsburgh field office, they had been going around, learned that he had been seen in indiana, pennsylvania, outside of pittsburgh they went to that area, theyst

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