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for more go to cnn.com/steu. up next, "fareed zakaria gps". this is "gps," the "global public square." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. first up, every media organization in the world is reporting that there are signs that israel is getting ready to attack iran. we will ask a man who should know -- does's defense minister, ehud barak. next, 2011 has proved to be a bad year to be a dictator, think of mubarak, ben ali, gadhafi. ne who's next? i'll introduce you to a man
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famous for predicting political change. and in oslo court, we'll analyze what breivik said. and can europe survive? should the u.s. government slash its budgets the way european governments are? i was in london earlier this week and sat down with a star-studded panel to sort things out. first, here's my take. watching the apec summit in hawaii last week, i had a feeling we were entering a new phase of global geopolitics. for decades now, those summits have been occasions for asean countries to worry and wonder about the u.s. commitment to asia. how strong is it, whom does washington back, will we stay engaged. the obama administration has made clear that the united states is in asia for good and might increase its presence in the region. the real concerns are no longer about washington but rather about beijing. countries in asia and around the world are wondering and worrying
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about china. watching china's somewhat aggressive diplomacy last year, many asian countries are still worried. and as they watch china's military modernization, they worry more. it's not just in asia, of course. look at africa where china's investments and activity are becoming part of those countries' domestic politics. the recent elections in zambia, for example, were won by a attend who promised to take on the chinese. the chinese, by some accounts, have virtual control over that country's economy. zambia is a huge copper exporter, and chinese state-owned companies are deeply involved in that business. it is a sign of china's power that the candidate who is now president has had to make nice with the chinese and recently threw a lunch for chinese investors. this might explain it, copper special report produced 2/3 of the zambian government's revenues. the united states is also witnessing new levels of anxiety
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about chinese business practices. the republican front-runner, mitt romney, made a stunningly tough statement about china recently. listen. >> china is almost every dimension cheating. we've got to to see realize that. they're manipulating their currency and holding down the price of chinese goods and making sure their products are artificially low priced. it's predator price, killing jobs in america. >> this is stunning because it comes from a republican. breaks with had40 years of republican foreign policy. the republican strategy has been to engage china and not condemn it. that mitt romney is changing tells us that popular moods toward china in the united states are very hostile. people keep saying that america needs a new china strategy. i think if you watch what's goingond and see how many countries are worry being beijing, the truth is that china needs a new china strategy.
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beijing needs to recognize that it has become a world power, that its every move is deeply analyzed, and that it is expect expected to play by the rules. indeed, it is expected to help maintain the rules. tell? that is one of the big questions this century. for more, read my column in this week's "time" or at time.com. let's get started. joining me now, the defense minister and former prime minister of israel, ehud barak. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> i have to ask you the question on everyone's mind -- is israel going to attack iran? >> i don't think that that is subject for public discussion, but i can tell you that the iaea report has a sobering impact on many in the world, leaders as
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well as the publics. and people understand it, the time comes, told him what he found, unlike baredai. and it became an issue, i think you do duly so it become an issue with urgency. people understanding to which nuclear weapons, no other possible explanation for what they had been actually doing, and that should be stopped. and the -- under nuclear iran, the whole region will turn nuclear -- turkey, egypt will have to turn nuclear to -- the nuclear materiels. and they will use the nuclear
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umbrella to intimidate neighbors around the gulf to sponsor terror. try to see what happens if at a certain moment you wake up to a bahrain overwhelmed by iran -- who will come to rescue? who would have come to rescue kuwait had it wwhen it was take saddam years ago? if he said he had three our four nuclear devices. >> a report says that you and prime minister netanyahu were trying to persuade your cabinet and that you -- you were able to-peto to persuade the mind of lieberman. is that news report accurate? >> no, i don't care to respond on the euro. that's -- those discussions with the cabinet should remain kind of closed to the public.
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there is a freedom of press in israel, and people speculate a lot. but i don't think that israel is the only -- the only or main issue on the table. it's iran, it's behavior, -- it, its intention. the prospect of a kind of nuclear iran and what should and could be done about it in time. it's true that it won't take three years or a quarter -- nothing can do anything practically about it because iran is gradually, deliberately entering the -- what i call the zone of immunity by widening the redundancy of the plain, making it spread over many more sides -- sglo >> do you think in three quarters, a year, they will
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reach a point of no return? >> not in the sense of having a nuclear device. people ask when they will have -- when they will break -- >> are you saying that at that point it becomes impossible to block it because there are so many redundancies in the program? >> yeah. i cannot tell you for sure nor predict, two quarters, three quarters, but it's not two or three years. >> shorter than that? >> yeah. >> do you have the technical capacity to strike iran and destroy your significant program -- i ask you because you publicly said in the event of an israeli strike there would be minimal losses to israel. so obviously you're thinking about this. you believe that israel has the capacity to take out the iranian nuclear program? >> allow me to tell you frankly, it's not a subject to be discussed in front of the equipment here. >> but you said -- >> no.
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no, i said some being what might happen if a regional war erupts. what can happen or could happen under the tourest scenarios in the israeli back yard among israeli populations. let me tell you, we recommend to all players to act sincerely, intensively to block the iranians, prevent them from turning nuclear. and we kept recommending to all to leave no option, ton remove any option from the table. we take it will ourselves, we expect it from others the same way. >> do you think that president obama has been serious in his policy to try to prevent iran from acquiring nuclear weapons? he has toughened the sanctions, got the u.n. to agree to a further round. do you view his administration's
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diplomacy on this front as something you support? >> first of all, i do not know. there is no details on what is on the american administration's mind in this regard. but i can see what they are doing. and i think that they are acting intensively right now. and i would not underestimate the sincerity of this administration and president. >> you know there are people in the united states who criticize president obama for not supporting israel strongly enough. do you believe that president obama is a very strong supporter of israel? >> he's extremely strong supporter of israel in terms of security. i don't traditionally present well supporting israel in keeping its military agent. taking care of its security needs. but this administration is action selling in this. and it could not have happened
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without the immediate part of the president. i don't see this anyone can raise any question mark about the devotion this president to the security of israel. it doesn't mean that we cannot have difference of opinion, this or that point about this or that, other aspect of what happens around us, mideast of the peace process. i would love to see the american president agree to everything with our government. but i think that's too ideali idealistic. >> tell me about this mysterious explosion in iran that killed a very senior iranian general. every news report that talks about it says this was an operation launched or assisted by the musaad. >> it means that there is a freedom in place in most part of the world. and there's an eagerness to compete with each other about
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good headlines that will probably attract viewers or readers. >> you have no comment on it? >> no. i don't know anything that i can contribute to this conversation about it. >> let's talk about syria. the syrian regime appears to be in greater trouble than it has been for months. the money seems to be running out. the level of the insurgency and protests seem to be rising, and they are losing support. the king of jordan publicly asked president assad to step down. where do you think things stand? >> i think that he's on a slippery slope. he cannot climb back. he's too deep into it. the fact that the arab league abandoned him, not extremely strong a monarch found it
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necessary to say loud and clear it's unacceptable. i think that what happened with gadhafi and the less fresh memory of what happened to saddam hussein is on his head all the time. and it somehow makes him more brutal because he understands that to a certain point there is no way -- it's literally a struggle for life or death. i don't believe that he will -- iran, syria, in a year from now, half a year time, it's totally independent from the previous issue we discussed. but things are developing quickly all around us in the middle east. >> ehud barak, always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> and we will be back. we won't be surprised russia's going to continue to deteriorate and get worse. we might be surprised that over the next couple of years it is pretty likely that saudi arabia will liberalize.
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2011 has been a particularly bad year for dictators, but who could have predicted it? my next guest has a good track record of saying when a particular dictator's power will wax or wane, when another might lose his job or his head. he uses game theory for most of it. he is t he is bruce de bueno mesqita. and you say roads are straight and in politics things are windy, why? >> if you're running a daycaretatorship, you don't have to -- dictatorship, you don't have to worry about the property
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rights of a citizen. only the people who keep you in power, a very small group matter. you can invoke eminent domain when you feel like it. in a democracy you'd be out of a job if you do that. >> in a dictatorship you go the straightest path and in democracy you worry about this town here, this village, settlement. >> press sighly. the first time i think with to. >> b.j.: th-- beijing they were building the highway and literally drove through a farmer's back yard. that was the highway. the fact that the farm was there didn't matter to anybody other than presumably himself. >> you predicted last year that ahmadinejad, the president of iran's power, would start waning. and on first appearances that's happening. he's been challenged by the supreme leader in iran, challenged by the revolutionary guard? why did you make that prediction? >> my modeling indicated that he
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was trying to carve out an independent base of power. that's, of course, a threat to the people on top. and that meant that inevitably he would be clashing with khomeini, with the revolutionary guard. they've got a lot more cloud than he has. that was likely to be a thorn in his side more than he in theirs. >> he'll lose that power struggle, you think? >> he'll lose that power struggle. but so will khomeini, he's already on the way down, in the next couple of years. it seems to me, and indeed i predicted in february of 2009 that by the beginning of 2011, jafari would be the real power in iran and khomeini would be increasingly more show and less real authority. and that's going to continue. >> so what you see happening in iran is effectively a decline of
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power based on religious authority of the clergy and rise of power based on military authority. >> that's right. and that makes me mildly optimistic that over the next several years iran is going to become a much more pragmatic government. >> and presumably even in nuclear negotiations, these guys are more likely to be rational, deterrable, practical? >> absolutely. again, my view on the nuclear side is that what is in the interests of the iranian leadership and what they perceive to be in their interests is to develop weapons-grade fuel but not to make a weapon. that is, to demonstrate that they would know how, that they have the technology. that gives them all the political kudos in the region that they're looking for without the political and military risks associated with actually assembling a bomb. and jafari surely understands that. i think khomeini understands it,
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as well. maybe he's been compelled to understand it. >> what about libya? why didn't moammar gadhafi last so long? 42 years. >> i'm going to turn that question on its head. why did he fail to last longer? he obviously had a very good run. he made from the dictator's handbook perspective, terrible mistakes in the last few years. he was interested in currying favor with the west. and in doing that, he started to diminish the amount that he was torturing people, oppressing people, sending the message that the risk of rebelling against this guy, not so high. so he had the first, say, 39, 40 years of from his perspective great success because he was not mr. nice guy. the last few years, he put himself at great risk by maybe drinking his own whiskey and thought people loved him. but he -- he loosened up too much. >> which would suggest that the syrian regime will endure because they seem to be
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oppressing, brutalizing -- in other words, you're saying it's going to tow the old line. for a bad regime, the biggest mistake is to start opening up a sflibl. >> that's true, but i'm optimistic that the syrian regime will fall -- >> why? >> and that there will be a reasonable amount of liberalization, not democracy. again, they'll run out of money. so the question is how much will the iranians give them if the reputed $5 billion is the right number. that's probably enough for the very large assad family to go into exile and live out their lives in luxury. it's probably not enough to buy sustained loyaltiy from the military. and that loyalty is crumbling. >> what if you were predicting look -- looking forward now, what are the things that are going to surprise us? >> a very good question. we won't be surprised russia's going to continue to deteriorate
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and get worse. we might be surprised that over the next couple of years it is pretty likely that saudi arabia will liberalize a bit more, moving toward a constitutional monarchy, but slowly. morocco is highly likely to liberalize. maybe not surprising when raul castro passes from the scene, it is very likely that cuba will move pretty rapidly to a fairly liberal democracy. we just have to hope that he passes from the scene soon enough so that the offshore elk ploergz for oil and natural gas doesn't come on board. then they'll be able to entrench dictatorship. >> bruce, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. we'll be back with a story from oslo. the norwegian mass murderer, anders breivik, went on trial.
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it remains one of the most shocking mass murders in recent memory. and last week, anders bering breivik appeared in a public court in oslo and admitted to killing 77 people last july. he wasn't repentent. instead, breivik pleaded not guilty to terror charge claiming he was in a state of war to protect europe from being taken over by muslim immigrants. what in the world was he thinking? how could the culture of northern europe known for social welfare states and generous foreign aid budgets create a killing machine like breivik? an important survey sheds light. the think tank demok conducted the first-ever quantitative investigation of europe on line. this is especially important because the internet following of these parties dwarfs its formal membership. remember, the likes of breivik are created and radicalized on line. so demos reached out it more
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than 400,000 facebook followers or 14 far-right groups across europe. more than a quarter of the respondents said that violence is acceptable if it leads to the right ends. if you thought the far right's members are aging and disconnected, think again. 1/3 of those surveyed were under 21. 2/3 were under 30. compare that with the average age of facebook users, only half are under 30. so it turns out that supporters of europe's far right groups are increasingly young and connected. they're also mostly male, deeply cynical about the e.u. and deeply worried about immigration and the perceived spread of islamic influence in europe. they are extreme versions of a growing reality in europe. the e.u. does seem dysfunctional, jobs are scarce, and at least three major european leaders, germany's angela merkel, france's nic loss sarkozy, and britain's david cameron, have recently admitted that europe's experiment with
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multi- catculturalism has faile. whoever's fault it is -- society's for not offering opportunities to integrate, the inability to cling to new practices, in europe it's been complicated and has produced a backlash. and now with youth unemployment skyrocketing in some countries, could rage against immigrants be the escape valve? maybe, though please note norway has not really had an economic downturn which leads to a key point. it's important to understand that breivik is a complete outliar. he does not represent most of the far right. he represents evil, unrepentant to this day for slaughtering dozens of young norwegians. but having said that, it's clear to me that europe needs to take a serious look at its policies toward immigrants. it needs to offer more integration and opportunities, and it should ask immigrants for
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much more assimilation. a final thought -- since 9/11, the world has focused almost exclusively on islamic terror in the form of al qaeda and other groups. but the e.u.'s latest terror report shows that was the 249 terror attacks committed in europe in 2010, only three were by islamic terrorists. the rest were by separatist groups, far right, or far left. for all the attention that has been paid to islamic terrorism. there are likely more breiviks out there, and we need to examine that danger, as well. the irony is that breivik has become a mirror image for the very thing he seems to be against. he's young, disaffected, and a mass murderer, and when taken to court to ask z fanswer for his crimes he says he's fighting a kind of holy war. sounds familiar? we'll be right back. basically this government has gone to work. if it doesn't, they're going to
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time for a check of today's top stories. clashes have broken out in egypt's tahrir square for a second straight day ahead of the country's elections later this month. the protesters are calling for a faster transition from a military to a civilian government. syrian president bashar al assad says his government will not bow down despite international threats of economic sanctions over a crackdown on anti-government protesters. in an interview with "the sunday times" of london, the syrian leader warns any potential military intervention against his country would lead to dire consequences. the president's former white house chief of staff, chicago mayor rahm emanuel, called the republican presidential field a bunch of turkeys. emmanuel spoke about the republican candidates last night at a democratic gathering in des moines, iowa. he was hardest on mitt romney for what he calls romney's inconsistencies in his record.
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those are your top stories. now back to "fareed zakaria gps." i was in london earlier this week, and i sat down with three great figures on the british landscape. david miliband was the nation's foreign minister until last year. he's still a member of parliament. martin wolf is the chief economics commentator for the "financial times." and bronwan maddox is the editor of "prospect" magazine, a current affairs monthly. welcome all. martin, you wrote in the financial times you that think finally the time is now. you have been saying this about the euro zone crisis for the last year. do you really think this is a make or break week or couple of weeks for europe? >> i wasn't thinking in terms of weeks. i was thinking of it in terms of moments. what i submarine that the crisis is centrally about the big peripheral countries.
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it's now spread actually across most of the euro zone. but it's above all about italy and spain. italy is the most important by far. the biggest. they have a new technocratic government. and it's got to work. i mean, basically this government has got to work. if it doesn't, they're going to have an unmanageable crisis with italy and will become i think terminal for the euro zone. so they've got to provide monty, who's got an incredibly difficult task, to manage what he's got in front of him, enough help, assistance, quite a complicated thing, to make the italian effort succeed over the next two to three years. it's not short, but it is now. if this one goes, i think they are really in serious trouble. >> david, you have spent time negotiating as foreign minister with the germans. seems to me that the german dilemma is this -- they don't want to do some kind of sweeping solution, whether it's euro bonds or getting the european central bank to act as the lender of last resort because
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they feel that's going to take the pressure off countries like italy and spain and certainly greece to do the kind of reforms they need to. and every time the european central bank has intervened and the spreads have lowered, the italians decide that actually all these reforms weren't so necessary. so when you look at the german dilemma as you do, particularly given the domestic politics of this, these -- these support for these peripheral countries is widely unpopular in germany. do you think the germans will ultimately decide that they're willing to pay the price, despite the fact that it might take all the pressure off these countries? >> well, i think that this is a key moment not just for the economic reason that martin has said, but also for political reasons. people like martin and i have been bemoaning over at least the last year the lack of german leadership. we now know from chancellor merkel's speech to the christian democratic coalition this week,
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she said, i'm going to lead and lead in the following direction -- a more federalized core of europe. but i think the central political dilemma and the danger is that germany has said it wants to lead, but it's not clear they're ready to do enough to get ahead of the political and economic curve. >> how does it look to you? >> i don't think it's a surprise that this is coming up now. i think the european project of knitting together all these countries came out of really admirable motives. out of a reaction to the second world war in saying that we will never have that again. i myself think the euro -- project of the euro was a disastrous extension of that. but it's not a surprise to me that it's coming now as the second world war and the passions of that are really fading from living memory. and fading out of in you like the -- the political class. angela merkel, german chancellor, does feel strongly about the european project and knitting it together. she grew up in eastern europe. but she's never had the whole of her cabinet, the whole of her coalition behinds her. and she certainly doesn't have
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all the german people behind her. whether it's actually going to amount to enough german public support to keep paying these bills and to make as dramatic a gesture of support for the euro at this point as it would need, i'm very much in doubt of that. >> martin, let me represent the -- i'm going to call it the german point of view, or call it the point of view of the former head of the bundes bank which is, look, the markets, you know, are panicking, but the only way to solve the problem would be some kind of a euro bond issue, some grand gesture. but that will take all the pressure off. and fundamentally you have a competitiveness problem in countries like greece and italy, and they need to reform. we've got to keep the pressure on. and there is going to be no big check. we're going to dole this money out slowly, and if the markets don't understand, well, we're not going to jump every time the markets tell us to -- >> i understand the point of view. but it's a very, very dangerous game because markets move so much more quickly than economies. let us suppose that mario monty
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in italy did everything we wanted him to do. all the reforms you could imagine. a very large country, it's a very complicated country. not like little ireland with a huge export sector. the best will in the world, fwhoibd asks how long would that take to work, to restore competitiveness and growth to italy, if everything went well, i would guess four or five years. this is a massive undertaking, they're trying to introduce a whole wave of reforms, restore competitiveness, lower wages, it's a huge task. in the meantime, the markets are going to lose patience every day. and at some point there's a real risk that italy won't be able to fund itself. then we're going to have the risk of a default, and that will be a contagious event. and italy will feel abandoned. and the thing will smash. so the necessary condition i think now, if you've got the government that is committed to, and there's no doubt mario monti
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does, you have to support it so italy can fund itself in the meantime. i don't know if this will work. i'm skeptical. i not the pressures on the euro zone are spectacularly big, and it could break up. we'll come back to discuss this and whether cutting budgets in europe and the suds a good idea. coming up. us a good idea. coming up. ns a good idea. coming up. is a good idea. coming up. ts a good idea. coming up. es a good idea. coming up. d s a good idea. coming up. s a good idea. coming up. tas a good idea. coming up. ts a good idea. coming up. es a good idea. coming up.
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we are pack with martin wolf, david miliband, and bronwen maddox. when you look at what is happening in britain, we in the united states are particularly interested because you preemptively cut your budget, raised taxes, in a way to be -- to assure markets that britain was in good fiscal shape. what do you think the result of that experiment has been? >> well, it's a clear path. we've grown north .6% in this year, smaller economy than in 2008. i think what the government has done is instead of taking their foot off the fiscal accelerator, they've slammed on the brakes. and at a time when the private sector is deleveraging very
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fast, there's very little confidence in the consumer sector, probably because it's been frightened by the government about what's going to happen, you see the economy flatlining. and that's obviously increasing the strain here, and potentially starting off a vicious cycle where benefits if up, tax revenues go down, and you're caught in a difficult vice really. and so the jury's out to put it -- most diplomatic in respect of the economy. nonetheless, if you look around europe, you would say this is a relatively stable political situation. i don't see a general election, much as frustrating it is to sit on opposition, only able to talk on shows and not do anything. i see a stable situation, but you're right, it is a test case to an alternative form of austerity politics. >> do you think the united states should look at the british example and say, if you cut the government spending, in their case they raised taxes, very little prospect of that in the united states. but the result will be you will
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further decrease demand for goods and services in the economy. >> no, i don't think it's a self-contained model as david is suggesting. britain is enormously affected by what's happening in the euro zone for example. but yes, the markets have so far given david cameron credit for being able to reduce the -- the deficit in a way that they haven't given the italian and spanish governments credit for that. so the -- >> in the sense that britain's borrowing costs are low. >> yes. and -- >> that reflects on the weak economy. the low yield reflects the fact that the economy is -- >> no, but it gives credit for raising taxes, to cut spending a bit. and the markets are -- the italian, greek, and spanish governments can do that. >> martin, i know you've written about this, and you regard the experiment a cautious one. >> for the u.s., yes. i will be absolutely terrified out of my wits if the americans follow the british model. on the other hand, right now, i
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think it would be probably devastating for the world. i'm more concerned that the americans will never follow the british model. they will never get their fiscal house in order. that would also be very, very serious. timing is everything in economics. and i'm -- i'm sympathetic with david's view. obviously we had to cut the budget deficit. there's no doubt. but my concern with it is that it's too fast. and above all, it's too rigid. and i think they have locked themselves in a position which could turn out over the next year or two to be very unfortunate. another two, three years of stagnation, bad for the economy, bad for the government. and bad for the public finances. >> but you say that you'd be scared witness if the united states were to do the same thing. but of course, at some level that is the conversation in america. we have a budget committee that's, you know, aasen don't and a house kmeg economy trying to figure out how to cut some $104 trillion out of the deficit. we have potential taxes on the rich.
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so -- >> and -- >> nobody's talking about spending more money in america. >> i have every confidence that the american will fail to do the cuts that they're promising. i don't think they can do -- >> which you think is a good thing? >> in the short run, it's a good thing. it's clear that south america on a tightening mode. that is clear. but the crucial question is, how fast, how massive that tightening would be. with i think the political opposition to much more action by the fed, very dramatic tightening beyond what is already on the way, i think it would be dangerous. so i'd be keen to see that not happ happen, but my sense is they're not going to slash spending and they're going to raise taxes. >> this seems disingenuous, you want to see them fail at the moment because it will stop tightening too much. but we want evidence that america can tighten. that this is a government that still has -- it still is capable of making decisions. over the summer with the
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standoff in congress, this is exactly what people were questioning. wouldn't you rather that america chose not to tighten at this point rather than it failed? >> let me ask you as a politician, you see the complexity of what martin and bronwen described. particularly in the united states, a large country, very diverse, this very complicated message that you shouldn't tighten now. you should perhaps have a more stimulus now. but in the medium term you need to tighten dramatically -- >> it's than complicated. says you've got to have your balance between the accelerator and the break. and i think people can understand that. there are two parts of our conversation join. there are real dysfunctions in our democratic politics, whether in the u.s. or in the european union. secondly, there's a real danger that the move of global integration is going to be halted by protests in the west. traditionally, we thought, it's going to be the developing countries that end up tipping
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over the globalizing bandwagon. actually, the danger now and the european union is at the center of this, the danger of deglobalization if you like is serious. and we see the rise of dangerous forms of nationalism, localism, parochialism, nativism. and i think that those twin dangers, dysfunctions of democracy on one hand, retreat from -- not global government but the integration of our global village. those twin dangers will define politics for the next decade. that's what we need politicians to come to terms with. >> david miliband, bronwen maddox, martin wolf, thank you very much. we'll be right back. [worker:] we could do both. is that possible? [announcer:] at conocophillips, we're helping power america's economy with cleaner, affordable natural gas. more jobs. less emissions. a good answer for everyone. well, if it's cleaner and affordable. as long as we keep these safe.
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answer. make sure you go to cnn.com/gps for ten more questions. while you're there, make sure you check out our web site, theglobalpublicsquare. my book of the week is from my be guest earlier, "the dictator's handbook: why bad behavior is almost always good politics." de mosquita and his co-author, allister smith, have guidelines that predict the behavior of leaders. they say all leaders, democratically elected or dictatorial power-grabbers, are really only interested in their even political survival. if you use that for your guide, you willing it out what they will do. smart peculiar. for a last look, those of you who watched our recent education special saw the exhausting study habits of south korean students. the accumulation of that pressure was last week when almost 700,000 south korean high school students took the test
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they had spent all those hours working toward. ♪ >> it was a wild scene outside test centers as young kids cheered on the heroic test-taker as they arrived. police motorcycles even whisked the late ones to school. when it came time for the high schoolers to begin the grueling nine-hour exam, silence was the order. planes were grounded, honking was banned, and teachers refrained from wearing squeaking shoes for fear of distracting the students. relatives prayed outside the school gates for good results. why all the fuss? it's widely believed in south korea that this test determines which college a student will go to, which company they will then work at. the size of their eventual paycheck, even whom they will marry. pretty intense pressure. the correct answer to our "gps" challenge question was b, the number of people protecting the 2012 london olympics will
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