that's something that evidently they have lost their eyes and are still alive. >> what does that tell you? >> it tells me something wrong. >> on an average day, you could have 30,000 pounds of shrimp. >> that's just an average day. >> how many pounds have come in today? >> zero. >> it's likely that the population declines in the shrimp are due to the same contaminants we're worried about if people eat them. >> reporter: there's disagreement over the health risk, but no disagreement about how life has dramatically changed on the gulf coast. gary tuckman, cnn, golden meadow, louisiana. much more of the newsroom much more of the newsroom straight ahead. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com e. the former vice president for student affairs, the woman in charge of enforcing school rules says joe paterno's football players got preference shl treatment because joe

paterno demanded. she held the post from 2003 to 2007. in a statement to cnn, she says in part, over several years, there were numerous meetings and discussions about specific impending student discipline cases that involved football players. as a result, my staff and i felt compelled to alter how we handled cases involving penn state football players. the consequence of these accommodations put us in the position of treating football players more favorable than other students. joe paterno's lawyer says the claims are misleading and filled with inaccuracies. cnn has obtained a statement for air. we'll report that in a moment. all of this comes as pennsylvania's department of child and youth services is said to be investigating two new allegations of child sex abuse on the part of jerry sandusky. these are the first known cases involving alleged victims who are still underage.

sandusky is formally charged with molesting eight victims. a live report later this hour. war and peace. national security and personal liberty. the eight republican candidates for president have had their say. one day after, the battle lines are more clear than ever. take a listen to them clashing over troops in afghanistan. >> we haven't done a very good job defining and articulating what the end point is in afghanistan. the american people are getting very tired about where we find ourselves today. >> let me respond. are you suggesting that we just take all our troops out next week? what's your proposal? >> i said we should draw down from 100,000. we don't need 100,000 troops. >> many of them can't even cross the wire. we need a presence on the ground around 15,000. that will serve our interest in

terms of special forces response capability. >> much more on the fallout today in our face time segment moments from now. the texas judge who found himself in the court of public opinion after a youtube video surfaced has been suspended. judge william adams was seen in the 2004 video beating his then teenage daughter. the beating came after she downloaded music and games off the internet. they did not give a reason for his suspension. adams handles family-related matters for the court system. three american college students accused of launching moll tav cocktails were spending a semester in cairo. the mother talked with cnn's american morning. >> i do know that the general of

the u.s. embassy in egypt did speak to my husband this morning. my husband called him. and he has had the privilege of speaking to derek. he spoke to all three boys. he said they were being treated well. >> an american diplomat who visited with the three students after they were interrogated says they are in good health. dramatic video of a helicopter crash today in new zealand. look at that. tv cameras were rolling when the chopper's main rotor clipped a cable. it was on a mission to install a christmas tree. the helicopter broke apart. but the pilot was not seriously hurt. we now know what killed a 19-year-old university of arkansas football player. heart disease.

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politics stops at the water's edge. that used to be an article of faith. now it's debatable.

here's the debate. the gopp debate was about international policy. and if voters learned anything, it's that the candidates are just as divided on these issues as they are on everything else. i want to bring in political analyst david gergen. who made the best use of his or her face time last night? >> i think newt gingrich used that to the best advantage. whether it's going to be controversial what he said. what most political pun dents were focused on is he took a soft-line stance on immigration. something more in the middle. he would be willing to grant legal status to families that have been here for 25 years or so. that's a softer position. he's going to potentially pay a price within the base. but within the foreign policy,

there's a little more focus on something else. he took a hard-line stand on iran. not only would he reserve the option as a last resort, but he also said that if he bombed, it would be accompanied by regime change. and to my m in the military, that sounds like american boots on the ground. regime change is a big deal in a country like iran. >> foreign policy ranks pretty low right now. did anyone have anything to lose or gain notwithstanding some of the comments made? >>. newt gingrich had a lot to gain in the sense of people are now, for the first time, he could be the nominee of the republican party. it was really important for mitt romney to hold his own. he did that last night. he did not shine the way he has in the past.

but his answers were crisp. he shows he has a command of foreign policy facts and figures and would be a capable steward of american foreign affairs. i think a person who had the most to gain was jon huntsman. he used his time to tie the issues back to the state of the american economy. that the most important foreign policy objective should be to get america's house in order. >> do you expect bin laden and libya and troop draw downs to play a big role when we get to the general campaign? >> i must tell you that i think president obama has made enormous gains in the eyes of the public. he's finding his footing on foreign policy. getting bin laden and gadhafi. but he generally has been seen more short footed. he has a highly competent team.

it would be very hard to beat this president on foreign policy. he has a lot of bragging rights. he's much more vulnerable on the economic side. the interesting thing is a man elected to be essentially a domestic president has actually turned out to be better at leading on the international side than the domestic side. >> very good point. we appreciate you joining us. >> good to talk to you. >> you too. thanks. it's tough to get a job, but not for lawyers. at least that's what some law schools are suggesting. but is it all bogus just to lure students? why some law grads are suing their schools. but first, u.s. infantry man j.r. martinez was burned while deployed in iraq. eight years later, he and his partner are champions on "dancing with the stars." >> you have to maintain a positive attitude and fight. and understand and believe if you do those things, good things will come to you. one day, you will be able to

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your undercovered today. lawyers suing law schools.

they say their schools lied about the chances of landing a job after graduation. two senators want the education department to investigate law schools. in their letter, they refer to lawsuits claiming students were given inaccurate job placement information. the suits charged the law schools mixed together employment including jobs that don't require a law education to inflate employment rates. well ashby jones writes for the law blog. you looked into these cases. is it as bad as the lawsuits say it is? >> well, i think there's some smoke here and also some fire here. the allegation, as you correctly pointed out, is that law schools for a long time have been putting out data basically to the public and to perspective students saying that their employment rates are x. and usually that x is somewhere

northwards of 90%. people that graduate from law school have well-paying jobs within nine months or a year of graduation. now, i think that other people since then have come out and said, these statistics are way off base. we know since 2008, since the financial meltdown, that you've seen a lot of layoffs at law firms. yet the schools continue to put out statistics that show that their placement rates at law firms and other companies is well above 90% so there's some sort of disconnect. and i think the senators want to get to the bottom of this. >> at the same time, some would argue, if you want job placement, find your own job. do the lawsuits have a chance? >> i think they might. i think it is a close call. a lot of people say that what the plaintiffs in the lawsuits will have to show is that they

actually relied on the statistics in making their decisions to go to law school in the first place. on the other hand, people say, you know what, this has been a long time coming. law schools have been putting out this inflated data for too long. and that kids who go to law school come out with sometimes northwards of $100,000 in debt. if it they can't find jobs, that certainly can be a difficult position to be in. so i think at this point, it's anybody's guess as to whether or not the lawsuits are going to take the day. >> so could it mean that other graduates could sue their schools as well? we have heard a lot of recent college graduates complaining what their $100,000 degree is getting them these days. >> certainly, anybody can go out and file a lawsuit. i think the difficulty that

people graduating from four-year colleges are going to have is they are going to say, well, we were promised jobs when we got out of college. unless the college or university made a specific promise as being able to land a certain percentage of their graduates in good jobs after graduation, they are not going to have much of a chance. that's what the law schools have been doing. this has probably gone on in other industries as well. it's really the professional schools that this is an issue. people go to law school to find jobs. and if they don't have jobs on the back end, they are not going to be happy about it. undergrad, it's a different situation. >> one would assume a recent grad from law school wouldn't want their first thing they do out of law school is to file a lawsuit. so we'll continue to follow this one and see how it winds up. we appreciate you, ashby jones. thanks. it could be jail for

sandusky. two more cases of alleged child sex abuse being made against the former assistant coach. plus delays in his hearing. we'll have a live report on this ongoing scandal. dry mouth may start off as an irritant. it'll cause cavities, bad breath. patients will try and deal with it by drinking water. water will work for a few seconds but if you're not drinking it, it's going to get dry again. i recommend biotene. all the biotene products like the oral rinse...the sprays have enzymes in them. the whole formulation just works very well. it leaves the mouth feeling fresh.

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former penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky now faces two new allegations of child sex abuse. according to the patriot news, those two cases are being investigated by children and youth services. that is key because these could become the first known cases since sandusky's arrest, in which the alleged victims are still children. the former defensive coordinator already faces 40 counts for allegedly molesting eight young boys over a 15-year period. but as we're learning about the new investigations, what's more telling is what sandusky's lawyer told abc news on tuesday. >> my concern is if they bring new charges based upon new people coming forward that bail is going to be set and he's going to wind up in jail. >> sara ganim broke the news about the new cases and has been on top of the story since the beginning. she's on the phone with us now.

we appreciate your time. what more can you tell us about these new cases opened by the children and youth services. they were reported less than 60 days ago? >> reporter: they were. we're not sure. one of the cases was reported, but the attorney for jerry sandusky told me this morning that at least one of those children is actually a family member of jerry sandusky. but his lawyer says that the allegation is a product of a nasty divorce. that someone is basically using the other charges against jerry sandusky to get an edge in the divorce proceeding and has made the allegation. the allegation is that the child was abused before jerry sandusky was charged, but it wasn't brought to the attention of authorities after he was charged earlier this month. that's what his attorney is saying today about the new cases. we don't know anything else about the other one.

children and youth services is involved. >> another remarkable twist in this ongoing investigation that continues to get more complicated. could this lead to more charges and put sandusky in jail as his lawyer feared? >> reporter: you know, i think a change in bail is always a possibility. it's something we see in many criminal cases in pennsylvania. when you get the first hearing date, which is set for december 13, there's also a possibility prosecutors can say we'd like the bail to be changed. if it gets to a point where jerry sandusky can't produce the money, there's a possibility he could go to jail. that's always a possibility in every criminal case. not just this one. but i think that because it took three years for charges to come against these eight cases, i would be surprised if more charges were to come this soon

because, like i said, they did wait three years and do a thorough investigation just to get to this point. >> sara, thank you. this only continues to raise questions about whether there was a culture of secrecy and special treatment for penn state's football program. penn state's former top disciplinarian says its football players did receive special treatment, in part demanded by their legendary coach joe paterno. but joe paterno's lawyers say those claims are misleading and inaccurate. immigration a hot issue at the republican debate. newt gingrich drew a line in the sand. will it hurt his campaign? that's fair game next. but first, our political junky question of the day. president obama pardoned the turkey's liberty and peace this morning. those were their names. do you know which u.s. president was the first to officially pardon a turkey? was it truman, kennedy, carter,

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last night at the gop debate, newt gingrich called for amnesty for long-time illegal immigrants. >> if you have been here 25 years and been paying taxes and o obeying the law, you belong to a local church, i don't think we're going to separate you from your family and kick you out. i'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law. >> the republicans are pretty united against anything resembling amnesty. 71% of republicans say the main focus with immigration should be deporting illegal immigrants and stopping more from coming. amnesty is fair game today. political consultant ed esponosa, thank you for being with us. who was that answer for? >> i don't think it was really a smart thing to say. i think the answer was coming

out of the professor and not republican candidate gingrich. if you want to play in places like iowa and key primary states, you're going to have to focus on what republican primary voters want. and last night's national security debate was on that. national security. sure immigration is important, but he really needed to focus on getting through the debate and showing he could be a front runner and knock it out of the park. which i think he did beyond immigration. >> and ed, you say if newt were to stumble due to this, we could get a brokered convention. what do you mean by that? >> first of all, to ron's point, you're exactly right. this is a good policy statement to make, but not good politics for a primary. it took a debate on national security for us to get an honest discussion on immigration reform, which is what we really need in the country right now.

but if newt gingrich stumbles in the polls because of this comment, we're left with a republican field where every candidate has been in the lead at one point or another. and you could see a situation where we don't have a consensus candidate for the republicans by january or february. now, there's a couple of important points to make here. four polls came out last week. all showing gingrich in front. a statement saying in years of polling, they have never seen a republican field this divided this late in the season. that's the first point. the second point, the rules have changed since 2008. they no longer have winner take all primaries. they have allocation primaries. this seems like a fair thing. we're fine with it. on the republican side, it creates more fracturing. and you have a very real

possibility of a brokered republican convention in august. there's an article about it today. i tweeted about it this morning. it goes into depth more about it. >> should be interesting as they continue to rotate in their front runner status. ron, did perry or cain help themselves last night? >> no. i don't think either of them did. cain barely spoke. i don't think perry helped himself much either because people are looking for him to have a solid debate performance. i don't think it was a bad performance, but he needs to knock every debate out of the park right now. and i thought his answers were simplistic versus answers by mitt romney, newt gingrich, and jon huntsman. so those two still have a lot of work to do to increase their chances of getting the nomination. >> ed, what about you on

security issues? >> they showed a little bit on those issues, but i don't think they made enough traction. herman cain calling wolf blitzer blitz made more of an impression. >> that might have been the z g zinger of the evening. thanks so much. that's fair game. it is the most populous country in the arab world. it covers more than 380,000 square miles. it's a country rich in archaeology. where are we? we'll take you there next in globe trekking. it's easy to see what subaru owners care about. that's why we created the share the love event. get a great deal on a new subaru and $250 goes to your choice of 5 charities.

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at least 35 people have been killed in clashes between police and protesters in cairo and four other cities. demonstrators are calling for the military rulers to step down. our ben weedman is joining us in cairo. ben, what are you seeing on the ground there? is there any sign the violence is e bading? >> reporter: right now, there are lots of people. tens of thousands of people pouring into the square. earlier today, there was a truce. we were right in the middle between the protesters and security forces. we were with the army, who had deployed four personnel carriers and about 200 of their military police to keep the two sides apart. for about three hours, they managed to calm the situation down. there was no tear gas being fired by the interior ministry

forces. and the protesters were not throwing rocks in the other direction. as often in the case in these situations, all it takes is one rock, and within seconds it was utter pandemonium. the truce became a thing of the past. i can hear behind me ambulances bringing people from those clashes to the makeshift hospitals in the square. it appears that despite the efforts of religious leaders and the army that the truce is broken down and the violence has recommenced. >> so egypt's general prosecutor's office said a truce had been reached between protesters and security forces. what you're seeing there, does this have to do with exactly what the prosecutor's office is saying or not? >> reporter: it's exactly what i'm talking about. often times, there's a disconnect from what official

sources are saying in public on egyptian tv and the reality on the ground. we were streaming live pictures as the truce fell apart with rocks coming in and tear gas being fired. the truce has collapsed. there's simply no other way around it. obviously, the government is trying to put the best possible spin on it, but i'm afraid nobody is going to believe what they are saying. >> ben, thank you very much. it's likely not a role he was hoping to get. george clooney could be called as a witness in the trial of the the former italian prime minister. he's accused of paying for sex with an underage prostitute. a lawyer says clooney will be called because he attended parties at the prime minister's home. we may not be alone in the universe. scientists say new research could change life as we know it.

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nasa is working on a project that could literally change the way we see the universe. the new telescope could unlock the biggest mysteries like how old is the universe and do aliens really exist? but the problem is, congress wanted to ax the project.

john zarrella reports. >> reporter: this is the future outside the maryland science center. it's a full-scale model of nasa's james webb space telescope. scientists believe the real thing will redefine our understanding of our place in the universe. it will be so unique it will look further back in time than the hubble telescope. >> the telescope is to help us find our entire history. >> reporter: ands a stron mers say if they look in the right place and get lucky -- >> this may give us clues about life in another social system. >> i think it would be cool. >> reporter: webb will orbit one million miles from earth. its instruments are designed to image primarily in the infrared

range, light we can't see. webb's capabilities will allow it to literally look where hubble could not. into gas and dust clouds, at the birth stars and planets. sounds incredible, right? webb might get us another step closer to solving the puzzle. are we alone? >> i don't know how you would put a price on being able to answer questions like how old is the universe? how did this start? where is it going? what is it made of? are there other people out there like us? these questions are just so intrinsic. >> but there is a price tag. when webb is launched in 2018, it will be years behind schedule and cost about $8.8 billion. $6.5 billion more than the original estimate. at one point, congress came close to killing it. so what happened? how did it end up costing so much?

>> when you're doing inventions for the first time, you don't know what you're going to run into. we found several things we had to work around. >> reporter: and it better work from the get go. when hubble ran into problems, space shuttle astronauts came to the rescue. but hubble was only 300 miles up. at one million miles away, even if the shuttle was still flying, it couldn't get there to fix webb. john zarrella, cnn, kennedy space center, florida. take a look at this. not your average stream. we'll have that story next. [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day with less chronic low back pain. imagine living your life with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a non-narcotic treatment that's fda-approved

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kro. several fish were swimming across the road. the national weather service said that it's the wettest in western washington since 2006. it looks easier for the fish to navigate the roads than the cars. we hope they get back to where they really wanted to go. and now to wisconsin. the mayor is calling himself arrogant and an alcoholic online but it's not his real twitter account. 17-year-old boy created it, he calls it a parity to poke fun of the mayor's attitude towards the city and links it back to his own campaign site. the mayor's attorney is threatening to take legal action. but the boy has no plans to take down the account. >> for me it's something i did

and if people don't like it, that's their decision. i don't think i did anything legally wrong. >> so that's what is going on there. in trenton, owe high ohio, a 19-year-old rescued a family after seeing their car fly into a river. >> as soon as i saw the baby cry, i knew what was up. >> the baby was the first one pulled from the water, followed by the baby's mother and sister. the family's grandmother said "it's going to be a glorious thanksgiving because none of them have a scratch on them". 48 victims blame more than a dozen businesses for this. the horrifying state fair collapse back in august, you may remember, seven people were killed and dozens were were

injured before a sugarland concert. the state of indiana is not named in the suit and does have plans to pay out $5 million to the victims. we head now to broward county, florida. in this case, a mom is suing over bullying. randy says her daughter brianna attempted suicide after being bullied relentlessly at school. she's a middle school student and for months was called names and racial slurs and even physically abused by another student. but the family's lawsuit claims, despite their complaint, school officials did little to help. the lawsuit also alleges that the broward county school district was negligent and allowed her to fall victim to hate crimes, among other things. her mom along with her attorney

joins us live from plantation, florida. first, why do you feel a lawsuit was necessary? >> to make them realize that they need to do something and enforce their policies. >> and you say you found yourself, randy, at one point catching your daughter trying to commit suicide. she was trying to choke herself. i'm sure at that point you realized how horribly this had gone. if you can, tell us what that moment was like for you. >> it was very hard to see my daughter stressed out that much to where she wanted to take her own life and it seemed like i had tried to do everything and they didn't do anything to stop it. >> how many school officials did you reach out to when this first started happening? >> the assistant principal, the

principal, and the school resource officer. >> the lawsuit seeks unspecified damages. why is that? >> really what we wanted to do -- she is not in school. we'd like to get her back in school, in a safe school. and because of the bur ra kra see, they wouldn't provide bus service to her to go to another school other than where she was being bullied. and we're finding out that other victims had been bullied at that school. her son is now out of high school but when he went to ramblewood, he was bullied incessantly there. >> we reached out to the broward county school district and they say they do not comment on these situations.

but to be fair, one of the students was suspended for three days. and the principal says, this was dealt with thoroughly. many hours were spent dealing with the student and parents. randi, is that not true? >> i disagree. because when we first reported it, none of the teachers were made aware that it was going on. she actually was sent by one of the set by one of the bullies right after it was reported. we continuously asked them to remove those kids from that school, they said, no, that maybe your daughter needed to move. >> will getting any money from this make things better for your daughter? >> you know, everybody keeps focusing on the money and the own reason i would request money is so that she can get more psychological counseling.

what we want to do is have browa broward follow their own rules and stop bullying in the school. it's nice for them to put up on bulletin boards that it's anti-bullying month but they are not following state law and they are allowing the bullying to take place. we've had several children that have been hurt in relation to school incidents. one child was shot, another one was stomped horribly. the broward county public schools needs to do a better job of providing safe schools. they can't take school money and then not follow the policies that go with that. >> we appreciate you both bringing us this story. thank you. >> thank you. well, mitt romney lands a big iowa endorsement. paul steinhauser is joining us at the political desk. hi, paul.

>> you're absolutely right. mitt romney, the former massachusetts governor in the hawkeye state and getting a big endorsement. does it really matter? well, it does. john thune endorsed him today when they were on the campaign trail. it helps for two reasons. thune is well-known in iowa, a lot of social conservatives there and i think this endorsements a big deal for romney. take a look at this. this is the latest poll for iowa. who is on top? a guy named newt gingrich. there was a secret meeting on monday night and a lot of stuff

going on, six weeks away from the votes and iowa caucus, natalie. >> wolf blitzer got a new nickname last night, of course. >> the blitz. i love it. >> thank you, paul. that does it for me. i'm natalie allen. good to be with you. now to brooke baldwin. >> hello, i'm brooke baldwin. let's go. getting you caught up on what is going on this hour. beginning today with the busiest travel times of the year. it is officially upon us. some of you know this all too well. two major storms, one in the northeast, other in the pacific northwest. could interfere with weather plans. we're going to have an update. in a minute, we'll take you live to atlanta's airport. the busiest to see if passengers are facing any troubles or delays flying in and out. military police trying to break out the protests there in the

square. police called for people to put down their weapons and there was word of a truce but no signs of this protest wrapping up. we'll speak with our kor spoon dend, ben wedeman, within a matter of minutes. also, another arab leader swept from power. yemeni president ends his leadership. saleh was wounded in an attack on the palace. new updates of the lone wolf terrorist his father says that he's not a terrorist but his

family was concerned about his relationship to islam. >> it's for crazy people, for the terrorists and such. >> jose pimentel was arrested an hour from his first bomb. governor john kitzhaber says it will ban an execution for someone scheduled to die in two weeks. he says he cannot participate in something that he believes to be morally wrong. she's scared. please. i know she's scared. >> a mother pleads for the return of her 5-year-old daughter and that same mother appeared before the judge. police arrested jerice shockley

on child abuse charges. her daughter, jhysse, apparently wandered out of their home, she alleges. noriega's extradition has been approved. he's been serving a prison sentence for laundering money from french banks. the astronauts will be celebrating thanksgiving in space. they have the proper trimmings. you're going to see the american commander in the next hour who just arrived at the station last week on a rocket. we're told no pumpkin pie. dessert -- sounds kind of tasty, though.

cherry blueberry cobbler. and a pardon from the president. liberty and peace. the pardoned turkeys can breathe a sigh of relief. the first official turkey pardon was given by president h.w. bush back in 1989. and we have a lot to cover in the next two hours, including this -- a young woman is thrown into jail after a relative rapes her. we told you about this outrageous story 24 hours ago and now something's changed. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. a woman is blamed for being raped and then gives birth to her attacker's child. >> translator: a lot of people told me, after your daughter is born, give it to someone else. >> now prosecutors are reducing her sentence but keeping her behind bars.

we'll tell you why. a man says he was fired for refusing to wear a sticker at work. >> i will never, ever, ever put that number on my body. >> a symbol, he says, is the mark of a devil. >> i'm prepared to take the heat for saying, let's be human. >> newt gingrich under fire for suggesting some illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay. >> the immigration policy would destroy his family -- >> i'll speak life with alan simpson, a straight talking republican with a history of immigration reform. and a chopper cut in half after a collision with wire. wait until you see what happened to the pilot. was founded back i, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times.

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all right. holiday travel in full swing. aaa estimates more than 42 million americans will be on the move this thanksgiving. and according to the air transport association of america, more than slightly half of the american travelers will be flying. one of really the biggest and busiest airports on a normal day, george, set the scene for me. i don't see a heblg heck of a lot of people in front of you right now. but how is it? >> reporter: well, brooke, we just went inside but it's a busy day, but not as busy as you would expect on the day before thanksgiving. i'm crossing the street, no problem. you'd expect a lot more travel.

inside you find the security lines, quick pass-through as far as security, quick passage as far as checking bags and inside you find a mix of travelers. you find those people going up for short stays with family. you also find great stories with our military men and women coming home for hopefully an extended stay. in fact, we talked to two soldiers. just listen to their story. >> when we walked down to the baggage, we heard people whistling and clapping. it was amazing. amazing. >> and as far as being back, what's the first thing that you plan to do? >> kiss my wife. i've been married to her for 20 years and i love her to death. >> reporter: what is it like to be back on american soil? >> it is the best feeling, especially so close to the holidays. i think all of us are really,

really excited to get to spend time with our families for the holidays. it's been so long since we've been gone. >> reporter: so a good situation for a lot of people going home. not too bad as far as traffic is concerned. maybe this is the calm before the storm, before the storm? i don't know. but right now, not so bad out of the world's busiest airport. >> yeah. a knock on this glass desk, i don't want to jinx the travel. other than the folks that you talked it to who are amazing and serving our country, how is everyone else's spirits? >> reporter: indeed. there were some who had complications coming in and out of atlanta, we had weather problems, but the sun is coming through the clouds. so a great day to travel.

>> anything that people need to know about getting through security quickly? >> reporter: you know, we are finding that people are moving through quickly. in fact, the security checkpoint at this point is ten minutes. that's pretty fast. so whatever the changes are that they may not be disclosing at this point. >> okay. i hear that loud airplane over you. george, thank you so much. as you can see here, take a look at the lower third, the red part in the lower part of your screen. we're keeping tabs on the airports and current weather conditions and another popular option for many of you is hopping on the train. amtrack. cnn's ed rolands is live from union station in chicago. te ted, i understand that you started out nice and early. how was the train? >> reporter: yeah, 4:30 in the morning, brooke, we started. and it was a wonderful drive.

didn't have to drive. it took 5 1/2 hours and now we're at chicago's union station. we've been meeting people coming and going for thanksgiving and what not. >> okay. ted rowlands, we're going to check back in action and get back with you and see how people are fairing on the trains. but at this point in the show, i want to pause and say this, as you gather with your relatives to begin this holiday season, we hope that you will keep our cnn family in your thoughts because we have suffered a loss here today. our friend and colleague, stan case of cnn radio was killed in a car accident in alabama as he and his wife were headed to oklahoma to go visit family. his wife was seriously injured. she is a veteran writer for many of the cnn news programs that you watch here each and every day. stan was an award winning journalist for more than 20

years but oklahoma was home and he was honored there on so many occasions by professional organizations for his work. and stan was also a licensed attorney in georgia. but we know it was his role as husband that brought him the greatest joy and it's not very often you can walk down the hall in your office and witness two people so truly, so deeply in love and stan would have done anything for her and angie, we just want you to know, on this day, you are in our thoughts and our prayers. my sinus symptoms come with a cough

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they kicked out their old boss, hosni mubarak, and nine months later, the people of egypt have lost faith in their new chief and temporary government. this is day five over cairo. this is live, a massive egyptians returning to central cairo, seeming to be unrelenting revolt. our senior correspondent, ben

wedeman is there. they are throwing rocks, setting fires, police firing tear gas. what's going on? you're there. what's going on that we can't see? >> reporter: well, what we can't see, because we're overlooking tahir square where there are tens and thousands of people out here. some of them making speeches, some of them chanting. you may be able to hear the ambulance in the background. there is a street battle going on a few hundred yards to the east of the square. now, earlier this evening -- or rather this afternoon, there was a truce. religious leaders came and somehow worked out a truce whereby the protesters and the police would stop throwing rocks at one another. the police would stop firing tear gas. and the army intervened right in the middle and we were with them. the army kept the police back on the one side and the protesters on the other and for about three

hours there was a lot of chanting, lots of shouting. the protesters taunting the police. but there were no rocks thrown, nobody fired tear gas. but all of a sudden one stick came over the crowd and stones followed and within literally five seconds the truce shattered and it's been going on now for about 3 1/2 hours. for a hope for some sort of calm has been shattered and we're back to where we were about seven hours ago. brooke? >> so, ben, with this fighting continuing for that long, is there a unified voice coming from these people, the protesters? and are the authorities acting as if they even know what the heck they are doing? >> well, there is no single voice coming from the square and that's how it was back during

the revolution. they scorned leaders. they wanted everybody to speak for themselves and sent a very unified message. in this case, they are calling for the supreme council of the supreme forces to stand down. on the other side, the messages are very mixed. the army seems to be distancing itself from the interior ministry, which is the ministry that organizes the riot police and the security forces that we've seen. the army came out with a statement saying, they had fired no tear gas at the protesters. whether or not that's true or not, it's the message that they are sending. it's them, the interior forces, causing the deaths and 3500 injuries. it's not the army. brooke? >> ben, if you can hear me over the sirens, my final question is, the elections are set for monday. can anyone -- is there campaigning?

can you campaign amidst all of the bloodshed? can the voters bring about stability in egypt? >> that's a good question because every few hours i have to remind myself, there's an election on this coming monday. nobody seems to be talking about it. if you get outside of the square, go around cairo, it's full of campaign banners and protests. much of the campaigning has come to an end. many parties say that they are not going to campaign given the current circumstances. of course, the government has said that the elections will take place as planned but the focus is so much on this commotion. the hundreds and thousands of people in tahir has faded into

the background. and at this point, more violence is not what agents need. brooke? >> ben wedeman in cairo, thank you. now, this -- >> unreal. in case you thought christmas tree lighting was dangerous, this is what happens after the helicopter met that wire. this is a horrific video. sugarland, scheduled to perform moments before the accident, now the victims are suing the band and cnn has just heard back from sugarland. we'll read you their response, next. ♪

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a helicopter crashes, the whole thing is caught on camera. you can see it here, it clips what appears to be a wire as the pilot is helping install a christmas tree. this is knew zealand. the chopper totally comes apart and amazingly no one was hurt. the pilot walked away. here's michael holmes. >> a helicopter hovers over the waterfront, helping set up a huge christmas tree display. the copter carefully descends and then watch what happens next. workers scramble to get out of the way and then rush in to help

pull the pilot from the wreckage. the whole thing caught on camera and streamed live on tv. witnesses say the helicopter apparently hit a cable and then slammed to the ground. the was shaken up but otherwise okay. >> it's pretty nerve racking. yeah. it came crashing down around him. it was pretty nerve racking. >> he's an experienced pilot with thousands of hours in the air and a good safety record. right now they are reviewing the chilling video of the crash to find out what went wrong. michael holmes, cnn, atlanta. >> the pilot walked away. amazing. now sugarland is facing some

serious charges. seven people died and more than 45 were injured. it was horrifying and caught on camera. at least 20 law firms across indiana, ohio, and kentucky filed this complaint accusing sugarland and others associated with the show with breach of reasonable care to the victims. this is the largest claim yet stemming from the last august tragedy. cnn reached out to the group but they had no comment. now this -- i'm prepared to take the heat by saying let's be human and enforcing the law without -- >> newt gingrich under fire after suggesting that some illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay right here in the u.s. also, rick perry made a similar comment.

remember what happened to him? he dropped in the polls. will this, what we saw at the debate, cause the front-runner status. a straight talking republican with experience in the immigration fight. in fact, he actually got something done in congress. don't miss that. but, first, which high-profile lawmaker said this about a major tv network? this is clearly a form of bias on part of the hollywood entertainment elite. i also think it's sexism as a result. who said that? we'll tell you after this short break. ♪ girl started blowing up their credit score ♪ ♪ she bought a pizza party for the whole dorm floor ♪ ♪ hundred pounds of makeup at the makeup store ♪ ♪ and a ticket down to spring break in mexico ♪ ♪ but her folks didn't know 'cause her folks didn't go ♪ ♪ to free-credit-score-dot-com hard times for daddy and mom. ♪

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all right. before the break we showed you this quote. we'll put it back up and ask you this. which high-profile said this, this is clearly a form of bias on the part of the hollywood entertainment elite. the answer is, congresswoman michele bachmann.

she was responding to that song that was used during her introduction on jimmy fallon. the song's title includes a ter rog tore word for women. fallon did apologize but bachmann is still demanding abc say i'm sorry as well. if you caught the presidential debate on cnn last night, which i'm sure you did, you know that newt gingrich is playing with fire. he said so himself. he said he's willing to take the heat for saying this about illegal immigrants. >> been here 25 years, three kids, two grandkids, been paying taxes, obeying the law, belong to a local church, i don't think we're going to uproot you and kick you out. >> the former house speaker is not in favor of blanket amnesty but it may have already cost mit

rick perry but could it cost newt gingrich? we have on the phone alan simms. what you may not know about this man is that at the most overhaul bears him name. it was signed in law back in 1986 and i have the senator on the phone with me all the way from his home state, cody, wyoming. senator, with regard to newt gingrich, thumb's up with what he said during the debate? >> what a joy not to be talking about the debt commission and all that jazz, as the old musical was, all that jazz. let me sell you, i heard the name mentioned of simpson and it was also a bipartisan move. it legalized about three million people. people forget that because we never use the word amnesty, which is a flashword. it just gets people all juiced

up. we use the word legalization and the reason that it didn't work and yet brought forth almost three million people from 92 different countries came forth, it wasn't just a bunch of people from our southern border and who cross the border illegally. it was people who had been here for years. the bill didn't work because the right and the left, when we were seeking the guts of it, which was a more secure identifier system, which is like a slide car at the grocery and a social security upgrade or something, was called a national i.d. card. and, man, when you mentioned the word national i.d. card, they all flunked the saliva test and turned into nazis and tattoos and germany for god's sake, went clear off the rail of reason. so, you know, as long as you didn't have a more secure identifier, you couldn't punish

the whole stack of fake cards. >> but senator, with regard to what newt gingrich said last night, the fact that, hey, there are people who have been here illegally for 20 years, maybe you let them stay and maybe there's a pathway to legal status. thumb's up or thumb's down? >> well, i think you have to do something like that. what are you going to do? deport them? i don't want to be part of a country on the hunt for 11 or 12 million people. i think that's nuts. and newt, i don't always agree with newt. especially with activities that they have under george the first. but i tell you one thing, if a person has been here and you can put them on the road, you can put them on the road to some type of legal status. let me tell you, if you have a country with 11 to 12 million people hiroshima illegal, those people are expendable. they are used and they are used by the elite, too, in society. don't forget that gal in the

kitchen, jennifer, they pay her $50 a week and one day off every month. you know, that's a crude way to live in america. those people are totally expendable. and then when payday comes, you can deport them and get them deported. that saves you a the lof payroll. >> a lot of what the former speaker said last night -- a lot of talk today with regard to immigration. i'm glad you're not sitting next to me because you might pinch me but i have to ask you about the debt. alan simpson, you know, i have to ask. so because your debt plan is out there, it's still out there and now the supercommittee has failed, who knows, maybe the simpson hbowles plan will -- i spoke with a response to the response about the failure of the supercommittee. >> if you put 12 other members of congress, i don't think you

would have gotten that agreement either. it might take another election before we get this thing resolved. >> another election. so alan simpson, do you agree with him, that by failing to act meaningfully on the debt, our elected officials have essentially punted the ball back to the voter? >> oerh, yeah, and this next ye is going to be chaos. the contagion, politics, the year, the president sitting out, democrats, republicans, goofies from the right and left, this next year is going to be really something but i think in the final, final, final point, that those people who don't step forward and be courageous and honest about what to do, and they all know what to do, we specifically set it out. if they don't come forward courageously, the guys who chicken out are going to be kicked out. >> one more quick question. do you have at all, sir, an indication for the white house now that we're back to square one, they are ready to dust off

your plan and see if congress is ready to run with that thing now? >> well, i do know this. bill clinton, former president who i enjoyed working with very much, he never broke his word with me, that he has said to the president, you know, if i had appointed a commission by, executive order, 50% of the 18, i would have wrapped my arms around it and taken the credit and i think he missed the point on that one. >> was that a conversation between president clinton and president obama? >> that conversation took place back in the dark ages, you know, when we were in our work after december 10th of last year. >> i see. i see. well, senator alan simpson, we'll wait to see if they might dust off your plan. i appreciate it. enjoy that oyster dressing with your wife. >> don't forget the gravy. >> the gravy.

thank you so much. goodness, making me hungry. coming up, immigration and bt. those were not the only issues obviously at the cnn debate last night. >> who would be. >> most the people committing these crimes. obviously it was muslims would be someone would you look at. >> candidates disagreeing with one another on a lot of issues, including airport security. we're going to hear the critical moments. the man himself is standing by with me. wolf blitzer, the moderator of the debate. we're going to ask wolf what surprised him the most. that's coming up next.

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states, kids grew up here, go to church, find a way to get them legal here in the united states. it's called amnesty, if you will. and i knew it was going to cause a stir. it has caused a stir among conservative circles. it could help them in a general election, especially since hispanics, demographically, are really getting increased political strength all over the country. but in a republican contest, especially coming up in iowa, let's say, or south carolina, you could hurt them. let's look at what happened to rick perry a few weeks ago at one of the debates where he supported in-state tuition. he got hammered on that. that was one moment that stood out. >> i want to play this. this was one of the very first questions from you asking if the powers of the patriot act, and it showed different answers

among the candidates. >> if you're trying to find someone with a nuclear weapon that they are trying to bring into an american city, i think you have to use every tool that you can possibly use to gather the intelligence. the patriot act has been a key part of that and looking at it carefully and extending and building an honest understanding that all of us will be in danger for the rest of our lives, this is not going to end in the short run -- >> i think it's unpatriotic because it undermines our liberty. i'm concerned as everybody is about the terrorist act. timothy mcvey was a vicious terrorist. it's a crime and he's a criminal and we should deal with it. >> we're in a very different war with very different techniques that are used for that war and very different bad actors than we've had before and the

terrorists and their motivations are very different. we can't forget that technology is completely different. when we were looking at prior laws, phones were wired into walls. that's not how it works anymore. today we deal with wireless functions and we have to completely change the way that we go about investigating. >> i think we have to be very careful and protecting our individual liberties. we are a nation of values and forever, like what we're trying to do in this debate tonight, we'll try to find that balancing act between our individual liberties and security. >> i definitely have a better understanding, wolf, with regard to how these different candidates stand now on national security. but when you listen to their answers, definitely no real consensus. >> no, not on that. on other issues, whether pakistan, iran, syria came in favor of a no fly known overseer yeah. romney came out and said he wasn't ready to support that. at least not yet. there's a wide range of opinions among these eight presidential candidates. it's not just ron paul versus

the seven others. there are significant differences among eight of them. and i think that came through. >> i will ask you about what in the world were you hearing when you heard herman cain call you the blitz. excellent job last night. now this -- it's not just a sticker, okay? 666 is the mark of the beast. >> that man says he got a pink slip for refusing to wear this sticker at work. we're going to tell you why the company wanted him to wear what he calls the mark of a beast. plus, some advice for getting the family away from burying their heads in their phones and texting all around the dinner table for thanksgiving. stacy, mommy blogger is standing by when all families on this thanksgiving eve need to hear, next. [ ding ] oh, that's helpful! well, our company does that, too. actually, we invented that.

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here's a scene that will play out in countless dining room and dinner hours. the extended family all gathering around the fixings and then there's that unmistakable twirp of someone receiving a text message or a twitter

message. whatever it is, the difference between facebook and face time. stacy is founder of mom's central consulting. she's also an expert on family dynamics and relationships. and i must admit, i almost got busted for texting during a commercial break. i understand, grandma needs face time with little ones. what is your advice to mom and dad to take the kids for thanksgiving lunch or dinner but they can't put their phones down? >> thanks, brooke. the first thing is, you've got to set a nondial tone with your kids before you go. grandparents, aunts and auncles they want to actually talk to kids and kids really don't engage in face-to-face conversations. they are diving into facebook. and so you have to set the expectations just as you're hitting the road with them. >> as in -- be more specific. as you set those expectations, what does that mean? honey, give me your phone?

or no. >> no. first you declare a turkey time out at the table. and that includes adults. literally pass the basket. as we gather around for family meal, we're going to talk to each other. kids will tell you, but we are socializing with our cousins. we just face booked on their walls, up loaded hilarious pictures and watched our faf route youtube but it's drawing kids out. it's not only during the mealtime but you also want to make sure that they are engaging if you come with alternative activities, making fingerprints, hands with whipped creams or taking whole cloves and pushing them into oranges, and then you have to set rules for them of when those electronics get confiscated. and so if they really don't engage and they are living in them, you're going to tell them in advance to take them away. >> as you talk about this turkey time out, stacy, it isn't just the kids.

a lot of us have multiple phones. we try to not to pay attention to them as we're eating because it's rude. parents, put them down. >> it's hard. because we at all times have cell phones with us. 91% of moms we polled recently at mom's central told us that they would rather have like nothing else when they leave the house or around them than their cell phones and we are just used to using them as lifelines. and whether you're checking a few e-mails or texting, we have to set the example and it's amazing how much we plunge into electronics as well as adults. >> final question, i consulted an 11-year-old for this segment. the writer of one of our senior daughters. she said, look, it's tough to relate to grandma or grandpa. should it be more mature generations, maybe they could learn a thing or two about facebook, relate to these kids. >> two things. one of the things you can do in advance is talk with your kids and say, brooke, are you going to share the story with grandma about soccer? kyle, you had that unbelievable

experience with your biology lab. you should tell all about that. that's a great story to share. and the other thing is, to encourage the older generation, the grandparents and uncles to have kids show us what they know. because they are digital natives and they are looking at us like, that is as fast as you can text? look at this. let me show you how to do it quicker. >> stacy, thank you. parents, if you're watching, do you have in any tricks? send me a tweet. >> thank you, brooke. still ahead, as the arab spring spreads from kornt tree to country, one government is spending big bucks to make sure that their country does not have this problem. you have to hear this report snooch. but, first, we have a list of the worst airports in america. this is according to the daily

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we have been giving you with the daily beast reports as the worst airports in america. laguardia, houston, number three, jfk, and newark in newark, new jersey. and number one is chicago o'hare's airport. we continue to keep an eye on the chaos in egypt here. last word, the numbers were 35. 35 dead since saturday in these clashes between protesters and police. you can hear the sirens here. these are live pick ytures here around tehrir square. they have been battling back and forth between the people and the police for 3 1/2 hours. some of the religious leaders

tried to get them to strike a truce. keep in mind, people all around the world are watching as well, including the communist leaders in china. they are spending unprecedented amounts of money. they don't want this scene playing out there. jill dougherty is live from the state department. this floors us because china is spending more money now on internal security than on its own military. >> yeah. it's an amazing statistic, isn't it? it comes from a congressional advisory panel that advises on china. our producer, jim ruzzo looked at them and studied them. if you add them up, there is more for security than for the

military. the government is concerned about the uprising in the middle east and doesn't want it to happen in china. don't forget, the population of one billion people. and it could be very dangerous and dangerous to them. so what they have done, they are spending a lot of money on things even like increasing controls over the internet and they gave an example. right at the beginning of the arab spring, if you were to key in the words egypt or cairo, you wouldn't get anywhere. so they are able to stop that. they also have cameras and this static about the cameras is very interesting. cameras on the streets or watching people in various places, the u.s. has them, too. the u.s. has 3.5 million cameras. china has this report says, ten million cameras. >> wow. >> so they are watching. it's a real concern. >> wow. and so the leaders, the communist leaders in this nation o