ball boys. a third accuser is coming forward and perhaps most shockingly, espn has released a secretly recorded conversation in 2002 between fine's wife, and one of the coaches accusers. bobby davis. so it, potentially damning evidence that suggests fine's wife not only knew about the abuse but allowed to go on. you'll hear that conversation in just a moment. but first the new accuser, 23-year-old zach, wchs spoke to him who claims that fine molested him in pittsburgh at a hotel when he was 13 a night before the syracuse game against pitt. he described the alleged abuse in detail. >> i was in the hotel room and he was -- he would put his hand down my shorts whenever i was sitting there watching tv. and he would basically gone dell

me four to maybe even five times. and it would go in spurts between 10 and 15 minutes. and it would stop for a couple hours and then he would start that all over again. >> tomaselli has his own troubles. he's facing his own chargeses for allegedly assaulting a 14-year-old boy in maine in 2000 # and 2010. his own father calls him a liar and denies ever meeting fine or letting his son take a trip with the coach. you'll hear from the father in just a few minutes. >> also this hour, reaction from fine's attorneys and syracuse university to the latest claim. we'll also talk about john wortham, investigative reporter from sports it's straighted, and you'll also hear from mike schwartz, he's the reporter who broke the story about bobby davis secretly recording a conversation in 2002 with bernie fine's wife. we want to play that entire report for you right now.

espn says an independent audio analyst has confirmed that the voice you're about to hear is indeed that of laura fine. and a warning, what you're about to hear does contain graphic sexual content. here right now is espn's mark schwartz. >> bobby davis says he knew of one person who could volley date that he was being sexually abused by bernie fine. that person was fine's wife, lori fine. >> hello. >> high, how are you? >> davis says that in october of 2002, he recorded a phone conversation with lori fine without her knowledge. a legal act based on the location ever both parties. during the call, fine, seen here in hidden camera video from 2003, discussed the alleged

sexual molestation of davis by her husband, syracuse associate head basketball coach bernie fine. >> what did he want to you do, you can be honest with me about that. >> so what do you think? what he always does. >> what, he wants to you grab him? >> no, he's -- he's trying to made me grab him, i mean, he's like -- >> but you never had any oral zekts with him? >> no. >> no. >> after bringing his allegations against bernie fine to a syracuse police detect it difference in 2002, and getting nowhere, davis says he was determined to confirm his story. he says he hoped lori fine would disclose on tape the details of her own knowledge of the abuse he says started when he was 12 and continued for more than a decade. so what were you hoping to accomplish by recording it in.

>> lori was a person that i talked to a lot about the situation as i got older and she was there a lot of the times, seen a lot of things that were going on when better any would come down to the basement in his house and when i was laying down there. and she had to see him every night do that. but lori was the only one else that knew about what was going on, you know. and saw things that were happening with her own eyes and that we 25uked about talked about it. >> i know everything that went on with him. bernie has issues. maybe that he's not a waiver, but he has issues. and trusted somebody you shouldn't have trusted. bernie is also in denial. i think that he the things did he, but he's somehow through his own -- >> davis, who periodically stayed here at the fine's former home beginning in the seventh grade and at one point had his own room in their basement says lori fine told him she was aware

that her husband was sexually abusing him. >> do you know minute do you think i'm the only one that he's ever done that to in. >> no. i think there might have been other, but it was -- there was something about you. >> one time she told me about an instant where she saw him through the basement window and she left like the blinds open a little bit one night and she watched through the window. >> what did she see? >> bernie grabbing me and touching me. and she said the next day, you know, we got -- this will was when i was like a junior in high school. and you got as to step up, you got to be a man. >> during the phone call, davis explained to lori fine that when he was about 27 years old in the the late '90s, he asked bernie fine for $5,000 to help pay off some student loans. >> what did he want for it? >> he wanted to do me.

he was trying to make it physical. he put me in your bed and then put me down and i tried to go away and he hch- >> right. he thought he could get what he wanted. >> it's not about the money. >> it's about the [ bleep ]. for your own good, you're better staying away from him. >> lori fine suggested to davis what her husband should do with his immediate for male companionship. >> you know what, go to a place where there's gay boy, find yourself a gay boy, you know. get your rocks off. have it be over with. you know, he need it that male companionship that yaf give to him. >> she seems to say that he was not only adult in the fine

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it for you and immediately afterwards you'll hear from mark schwartz the reporter who broke this will story. again we want to warn you, what you're about to hear does contain graphic sexual content. >> reporter: at one point lori fine seems to say that her husband was not the only adult in the fine household who be trained davis' trust. >> he had no business doing what he did with you. neither did i because i really helped screw you up a little more, too p. >> reporter: davis says he and lori fine had a sexual relationship that she initiated when he says he was 18. and a senior in high school. >> were you ever with her sexually? >> yes. >> slept with her? >> yes. >> had intercourse with her? >> yes. >> does bettrnie fine know abou this? >> yes. this was when i was older. i thought he was going to kill me, but i felt like i had to

tell him. and it didn't phase him one bit honestly. >> reporter: later in the call, lori fine tells davis she wanted to come to his defense. but she just wasn't capable of it. >> because i care about you and i didn't want to see you being treated that way. and it's hard -- it was another girl, it would be ease sooe fy t because you know what you're up gepts. but a guy, it's just wrong and you can't -- you're a man now, but you were a kid then. >> this is about a kid who was abused and adults who didn't help, who didn't step in, who in fact sort of allowed it, created a space for to go on. >> danielle coach who has been friends with davis since the second grade says as the teenager, she served as the fine's baby-sit foreabout three years. recently, roach listened for the

conversation again. davis first played the call for her after recording it in 2002. >> this tape tell the s me that knew and watched it go on knowing that it was going on in her home for a long time. >> reporter: roach, who is now a mother herself, says she cannot imagine how any mother could know sexual abuse was happening in her home and not act. >> it's amazing that she can say some of the things she says to bobby but couldn't pick up the afr and said maybe this isn't the place for your kid. >> reporter: at the time, davis says he questioned whether anyone would ever believe his story. yet lori fine tells him she's already warned her husband, one day, his alleged molestation of davis might become public. >> i said to him, you know, i

know some things about you and i know some things that will be let out. he says let them go ahead. i think he thinks he's befoabove law. >> certainly a strike report from espn, but davis first gave that and you had i can't tapeud. why did espn sit on it for eight years before finally reporting on it today? fredricka whitfield posed that question to the reporter who wrote the story, mark schwartz. >> we interviewed bobby davis extensively in several locations for dozens of hours, both on the phone, in camera -- on camera, and we had what we thought was a very credible story. however, what we did not have at the time was swoon to corroborate the facts of his story, another alleged victim of

the same alleged abuser, better any fine. we did have the tape at the time as you say and we had bobby davis, one victim, but only ten days ago on thursday, the 17th, did a second victim actually come forward and appear on camera and that was 45-year-old mike lang who is the older stepbrother of bobby davis who alleged a very similar pattern of abuse from bernie fine. so at that point, our goal was to, first of all, get a voice recognition expert who could verify as much as possible that this was indeed the voice of lori fine. and we also spent time reaching out to the fines beginning early last week wanting to get their comment. we reached out to them through their attorneys. we did not hear from them. in fact, we got the same release that you did today say that mr. fine will not comment on newspaper stories beyond his

initial statement. >> so now what did it authorities say about if anything when you went to them if you went to them and said, hey, we have this tape, while we can't get anybody else to corroborate the information on this tape, what can you do with this information? >> well, you know, we don't see it as our i don't think to go to authorities with evidence that we collect. we did not go to the authorities with the tape. the authorities did speak to bobby davis before the tape was made in 2002. he spoke to a syracuse police detective who he says spent about five minutes on the phone with him and didn't even do a detective report, told him that the stat chuute of limitations come and gone. so that's why he said he ordered the tape. he was determined that lori fine who he says had a window into this abuse, in fact literally saw the abuse going on in the home through a basement window

with her husband, and bobby davis. and she alleged that that actually did happen on the tape. but once the interviews were done ten days ago with bobby davis and mike lang, that tape then through them got in the hands of the police department and it is evidence in this case and the district attorney also has a copy of the tape. >> and following the november 17th, that's what alerted the espn or you fyou to say let's ge voice recognition. why was that not done before? >> it was important to do that if we were actually going air the tape. these are grave charges. we had to do everything we could to can con gionfirm that the vo lori fine. you hear on the tape that he says hello lori and she says hello bobby, but in this case, we had to confirm it.

so we wanted to unrun it by the voice recognition expert to say, yes that is the voice of lori fine. >> and who shot the videotape of her behind a counter? >> we shot hidden camera video in 2003 which was one of the areas where we had, you know, her voice on tape. so we were able to compare her voice from 2003 and the call from 2002. and that's how the voice recognition expert was able to verify for us that that was indeed her voice. >> and now talk to me about the legality of why that audiotape recording, why bobby davis was not breaking the law the way in which he did it. >> okay. well, bobby davis made the call from st. george, utah and the call was received here in syracuse, new york. now, both of those states, utah and new york, are one party states. and what that means by law, it is legal to record a conversation with someone without the second party

knowing. so in utah and in new york, the origin and the source of the call, both states are one party states, the call was then made legally. >> we're learning more about the third man now accusing bernie fine of molesting him. not everybody believes him, including his own father, who you will hear from. and remember this from just eight days ago. >> i've been friends for 50 years with coach fine. and that buys a lot of loyalty from me. >> bernie fine's long time boss syracuse head coach jim boeheim announcing unequivocal support. we'll talk about that and a lot more about john wartime.

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latest accuser and his father. what did zach have to say about his claims? >> well, he said that he met bernie fine when he was only 12 or 13 years old around 2002, 2001, something like that. when he went to a basketball game -- rather, an autograph signing session and he said -- and he really couldn't explain why, that he and his father met with bernie fine at the session and bernie fine presented him with an autograph jersey which he says he doesn't have anymore. he says he doesn't know why, but sometimes after that, his father had made an arrangement he assumes for him to meet better any fine to take him to a game. now, he said that his parents let him get on a bus by himself to go to a syracuse game against pittsburgh in pittsburgh and he went unaccompanied at the age of 12 or 13. wound up in a hotel lobby where he says bernie fine met him

there and then took him up to the room. didn't explain why he would have singled him out, but that's what he said happened. in any case, he says they went up to a hotel room and that's where he claims he was essexly molested by bernie fine and says that fine showed impornographic movies in that hotel room. and then he said sometime after that he had another occasion to meet with him at bernie fine's house and that it was of a taker game that he and his father attended. he said his father couldn't go over after the house after the game but that they were invited, and his father allowed him to go by himself. and it was there that again he said there was another case of sexual molestation that occurred there. now, we also asked zach tomaselli's father about what his son had said. his father said that he's making the whole thing up, that it didn't happen, and that his son is making the whole thing up.

here's what he said on the telephone. >> i brought him to two or three games in syracuse, never brought him to a game this pittsburgh or let him go to a game in pittsburgh, never went to any after party, never let him alone doing that kind of thing. we went to a few games and we were always in the nose bleed section, never got good seats near within shouting distance of bernie fine. and never talked to bernie fine or ever met him. and zach hasn't either. so it's all fabricated. >> clearly a difficult situation because now the police have to investigate all of this and apparently are. according to zach tomaselli, he pretty with two detectives just a few days ago, they also spoke with him over the telephone and then met him in person, took a statement from him at a meeting

earlier in the week. and they said they were going to pursue the case. they also advised him pot not t talk he said with any members of the news media, but he said i'm doing it anyway. we'll have to see how it all turns out. >> what's been the reaction from the rest of the syracuse community following the new allegations and that audio from espn? >> well, it's hard to say how the community is reacting. certainly a lot of people who were there on the ground in syracuse, the local media reporting a lot of people feel very strongly in favor of bernie fine. i've not been there myself, so i couldn't tell you firsthand. we have tried to reach out to the various investigating agencies that are looking in to this matter, but so far no one is commenting on any of these new allegations. we do know that a search warrant was execute ordd on bernie fine home on friday and both the of course u.s. attorney's office, the local police are looking into this. district attorney's looking into

it. and even the secret service because of their expect teartis try to verify all of this happened. >> let's bring in a reporter for sports illustrated. you heard mark schwartz explain why espn waited to release the taped conversation between lori fine and bobby davis. did espn handle this right? >> yeah, obviously i wasn't privy to their internal discussions. certainly generically happens all the time that you're given tips or even sometimes forensic material and it doesn't get to that threshold. they had a second person come forward. left unsaid is that it's all in the had low of the penn state situation and you wonder if that's caused us maybe to think twice about how we take seriously these charges of abuse. but it's a tough call for espn now that a third individual has come forward. these are not choice witnesses

we're talking about. they're a all a business problematic. so i guess we'll just see how this plays out because it's a lot different from pen say the, will is not an attorney general filing a grand jury report. these are sfrank charges, these enter locking relationships could be problematic, as well. >> absolutely. let's talk about syracuse head coach jim boeheim. he came out supporting fine. will that come back to haunt him now? this taken obviously speaks for itself. >> yeah, he made a very forceful support of fine and also said i'm not joe paterno, which was sort of immediately distancing himself from penn state, yes inevitably led us to sort of link the two. i thought that was a very forceful statement and in retrospect that may come back to haunt him as we find out more. again, this is one of these things that we'll see how it plays out, but it was unclear to me why given the situation especially coming off of penn

state and sort of given how little we know why you would make a statement quite that forcefully. on the other hand, this is someone he's obviously loyal to. a strange set of circumstances. a lot of questions still needing to be asked. >> you mentioned it earlier. would we have ever heard about these allegations against fine if penn state didn't break first? >> i think that's an interesting question. obviously there are other similarities. a long time assistant who is married and iconic coach who has been in one market the whole time. sort of very easy. one coming a few days after the other to link these two. and i think penn state has changed. it's horrible to even and you can in terms of the silver lining, but in the sense that maybe this has caused us to rethink these allegations, perhaps investigate them more authorize "ly, take them a bit more seriously. i think it's naive to think these two aren't related in that sech accept sense, but you don't want to

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are nonexistent in this case.mitigating circumstances are overwhelming. and these factors call for probation in this case. >> you've obviously -- judge has ruled in most of your pretrial motions. in your gut, what do you think is going to happen here? >> i think he'll probably give him the foyer yeur years. the probation department, there's sentencing memorandum, a prosecution sentencing memorandum. we're asking for probation. the prosecution asking for the max before the probation department has asked for midterm. they think the mitigating factors are probably in excess of the grag straighting factors. based upon what's gone on so far in this case, i'm anticipating that dr. murray will get four years. >> you have visited dr. murray in jail. how is he doing and what does he

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we'll go this here which is her home. she's 10 years old. she's doing work that's beyond her physical strength, that's beyond her capabilities. work that the adults should be doing. going a couple times a day to fetch for water. >> so you use your own instinct and your observation to see if you think is a child in that situation. >> exactly. again, just some of the signs. sometimes if they have bad skin problems, or whatever, or marks or scars on their bodies. their clothes. so these are the kind of things we look for. >> as we were making the walk, we went through these very narrow gang ways and it was -- man, it was like -- i started thinking for a young person to have to go through this, like just this tunnel way was like no telling what could happen. >> and you can see how small the space is where we have to go to. imagine her carrying a bucket of

water on her head walking through these tight spaces. >> going through that, it was like, man, for a young person to have to do this every day and carry -- to be carrying whatever they're carrying and doing work back and forth, you never know what could happen. what's going to come out from whatever. first of all, i wanted to see like what type of human being he was, you know, just from my interception. what we we perception. what we were hoping to accomplish is allow him to allow her to go to school and not have her working every day when she won't have an opportunity to receive an education. >> you can see common dreams in about ten minutes. when we return, steve harvey take as break from his comedy

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what's the best way to teach young people how to succeed in life? cnn education contributor steve perry sits down with comedian

steve harvey and his wife for a serious discussion about giving kids direction through mentoring. >> reporter: comedian steve harvey believes being a man is no joke. >> real men respect women. real men go to work every day. real men work hard -- that's what real men do. >> reporter: since 2009 harvey's mentoring weekend has welcomed teen boys from single mom households. it's an all male event with a heavy dose of tough love. >> we have a program that works and we give you a snapshot of what manhood is. >> reporter: harvey's wife hosts girls who rule the world to promote self-esteem and leadership. >> mentoring gives a child what to shoot for. it's a new target. instead of what they see in their neighborhoods. >> it's also giving the kids to understand about making the right decisions. you have to be accountable.

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we're getting breaking news into cnn. syracuse university has just released a statement essentially saying that they are firing associate head cope bernie fine.

let's take a look at the statement. it is from syracuse university, it's a very short statement. it says "at the direction of chancellor kantor, bernie fine's employment with syracuse university has been terminated effective immediately." of course, bernie fine is accused of potentially molesting two ball boys, a third potential victim also surfaced today and espn released some audio recordings of bernie fine's wife with one of those potential victims. those were released today. "sports illustrated" senior investigative reporter john wurton joins us on the phone. i guess this isn't a huge surprise given all that has come down specifically today. >> you know, i mean given what we've known in the last 24 hour, both legal involvement, the search of his residence and obviously this tape which sort of speaks for itself, you know, it was clear his employment was

going to be in peril. i don't know if it's still the case but there was supposed to be a scheduled news conference tomorrow. jim boeheim was going to say a few words and i don't know if that is going to stick. given where the situation is going, a third accuser however problematic he may be it was pretty clear that his employment at serious was going to be jeopardized. >> the third accuser that came out today has raised some eyebrows in terms of his credibility, the fact that his father has come out basically saying that his son is lying about the entire episode. do you think that this move by the university is more geared to those audiotapes which were released by he opinion? >> yeah, i mean i think if you look at the totality of it and leave the third accuser out of it. just consider we have multiple accusers, an audiotape that's fairly damning and now police

involvement with the search yesterday and given the landscape in the wake of penn state and the fact that this was a university, i think it was pretty clear where this was headed and, you know, again, what's going to be interesting is the fallout here and jim boeheim as we talked about was very forceful ten days ago or so in defending bernie fine, someone he had known for five decades. loyal longtime assistant and where the head coach stands on this will be something to follow in the next few days obviously. >> and, of course, where the university stands may -- some may be thinking this is another penn state but theis is much different. there wasn't an investigation by the university or police when the allegations first surfaced, correct? >> yeah, exactly. i mean this again, you know, as eager as we are to drop parallel, it's a big difference between the attorney general spending years and taking depositions and having people under oath and testifying before