right now. thanks, jon. we're live from the middle east tonight with the exclusive conversation with the prime minister of the united arab emirat emirates. the payroll tax war intensifies in the united states, and here 50 miles from iran, the bottom line on ahmadinejad. let's go "out front." i'm erin burnett, and i'm out front tonight live from abu dab be. we're standing tonight about 50 miles from iran where u.s. official today called an escalating conflict with america, quote, urge the. an interesting word. iran claims it shot down an

american drone that looks a lot like the one on krur screen. it's an rq-170 sentinel. that's a drone that is so secretive that its image can only be found on a few websites. it has the most sophisticated american spy technology there is. it was used in the killing of osama bin laden. if this really happened, that means that technology is in the hands of iran which could mean other unfriendly countries. leon panetta this weekend called iran an international pariah. the situation is escalating rapidly, and we're hearing headlines left, right and center in the united air rack emirates. the clock ticking on iran getting a nuclear weapon. so far recently we had israel threatening to bomb iran nuclear facilities, iranians last week attacking the british embassies. you had countries like britain, france and the netherlands taking out their ambassadors or

enjoys from iran. you have american troops leaving iraq, which leaves a hole in the rejont. iran is defiant, and it could mean surging oil prices. prices at the pump in the united states surging. that's why iran has such a powerful hand. it trails ond saly saudi arabia exports for opec. there's no more important issue than the republicans running for president and iran and what's go on. both of them are here tonight with me in abu dabai. thanks for coming out front tonight. why is iran doing this right now, this very quick and very rapid escalation? >> iran feels a bit agitated by the ongoing developments around them. we have the situation most importantly in syria. syria right now, the regime

there, an important member of the iranian axis is the verge of collapse. >> teetering. >> if the regime collapses and changes over there, that's a major breach in their front line. >> robin, is it going to get worse? how much worse? there's people saying america is going to be forced to intervene in some way militarily in iran. >> on the military side that remains to be seen. the big concern, of course, as you said is the effect on oil prices and what effect any attack on iran will have there. we're seeing oil prices rising in response to the tensions and also in response to the sanctions at the u.s. and europeans are trying to impose on iranian oil. >> america has tried to make the point, hey, rest of the world, europe, china get on board with us and stop buying iranian oil. technically that's a difficult thing to do. even if it happened, it might have an adverse effect, and that would be there's less oil on the

market and the oil is worth more. pump prices in america go up. how much? >> this is a huge problem, right. if the sanctions are effective and let's say china comes on board, which is extremely unlikely, but let's say they did, you would have taken the second biggest export of opec off the market. then i would say prices might rise to $150 a barrel. so from where there are now, which is 100 to 110. that the saudis could make up some of that, some of those lost exports. >> think about what happened when oil was at $150 a barrel very briefly in the summer of the 2007. what happened then? that was the peak for the real estate market and maybe the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of the global financial crisis. the sheik dubai, we sell them a lot of weapons and have nuclear power, but iran does a lot of

business with dubai. he doesn't think iran will get a nuclear weapons. >> there's varying views over here between officials in dubai and abu d hhap hdhubai. we heard statements from the saudi foreign minister today raising alarms about the iranian nuclear program as well. the wide belief is that even if iran goes nuclear, it's going to maintain an opec policy. hardly you ever meet somebody over here who really has any doubts that iran will eventually become a nuclear power. >> the arms race en, then, just continues robin. we're in the midst here in this region of maybe the biggest arms race this region has ever had, and this is a region that isn't unfamiliar with that concept. >> that's the question, right,

if iran does nuclear do some of the other arab states, saudi arabia for example, do they try to go nuclear and intensify the arms race or put in place some with the backing of the u.s. west some cold war containment of iran say in somehow deal with the worst consequences -- prevent the worst consequences of an iranian nuclear weapon. >> thanks very much to both of you. it depends on stability in the saudi arabia and in the united arab emirates. i'm stands on top of 50% of the oil by iran. no more important story here. terrorism was on the front burner here today. police chiefs around the world gathered in abu dh h ha h ha bi. he said 40 million tourists come

here like las vegas. he's worried about terrorist attacks. >> a lone individual, the extremist, you know, that is the one that concerns us the most. i think they've demonstrated in other places in the world, you know, you don't necessarily need the sophisticated bomb and a variety of things to, you know, really impact and hurt people and, you know, accomplish what they want to. >> i asked him if if the u.s. and middle east police officials were actually sharing crucial information about extremists. >> we're not where we need to be. you know, i've been involved in policing for many years. we've made some significant strides, you know, since 9/11, but i don't think anyone would say we're where we need to be. >> well, a lot of people wonder why dubai, a place where burqas

and beer and swimwear mix in abundance is not targeted by terrorists in the middle east. the sheikh believes people come here to make money. it's simplt an opportunity, people that might blow themselves up in other countries do it when they get here. here's the quiz and plaes don't google it. how many countries use the euro. take a guess. >> guess what happened here in herman cain gets out of the race, and i've got a job offer for herman contain in abu dhap i. a church banned interracial marriage. a big development and the bride comes back out front tonight.

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there's big news in europe. as europe is struggling to survive and stay together, the two people making all the decisions, angela merkel of germany and nicolas sarkozy of france. they're changing the rules and say we're going to get tough. no more easy money. automatic sanctions for member countries that fail to keep

budget deficits at a certain level. that's 3% of gdp. that's a big, big problem frankly for all european countries. also requiring countries in the euro to pass laws that require a commitment to a balanced budget. that's interesting, considering that's something in the united states that is a huge battle right now, especially in a time of economic duress. the european bailout fund is permanent by the end of the next year. some of these are pretty stark and big changes for europe, which brings us to our number tonight, 27. that's the answer for those of you who didn't cheat or google or know the number of nations in the european union. merkel and sarkozy hope to get all of those countries to sign on to new rules. makes herding cats look like the easiest thing in the world. right now the other number of the night is 17. that's the number of countries that use the actual euro.

speaking of money and the deficits, let's talk about the united states and the big issue at home tonight is the payroll tax. talk heated up in washington, and the issue is pretty much everybody likes the payroll tax but don't agree on how to pay for it. democrats want to tax the wealthy, particularly millionaires and billionaires. republicans want to pay for it by maybe freezing federal sal y salaries or something like that. here's what president obama said today. >> i know many republicans have sworn an oath never to raise taxes as long as they live. how can it be the only time there is a catch is when it comes to raising taxes on middle class families? how can you fight tooth and nail on to protect high-end tax breaks for the wealthiest americans and yet barely lift a finger to prevent taxes going up for 160 million americans that really need the help. it doesn't make sense. >> okay. of course, it's not that simple, as we've pointed out many times.

if you let the bush tax cuts go away for people that make over $250,000, you raise $750 billion. there's a lot of tough choices to be made. gloria bodjer joins us. what's the outcome of the payroll tax because nobody wants to not have it extended by the end of year? >> i think in the end they're probably going to extend it. the president goes out there and wants to extend these tax cuts for the mild class. 7 out of 10 americans, erin, with him on that. also, the democrats came out with what they say is a compromise. they say, look, this surtax on millionaires, we're going to make it temporary. we're only going to have it for ten years. they also proposed some cuts on the spending side. so politically at least, erin, i

think they're really on very solid ground. my question to dan would be, how do republicans, dan, argue they're for tax cuts except for this one? >> i think obama had a pretty good dig at them. republicans fight correctly in my view against higher tax rates in terms of the bush tax cuts, and yet they were a little bit reluctant to get out front and let the democrats actually outflank them to the right on middle class tax cuts. now republicans are back on the tax cut reservation, and instead we're fighting over how to, quote, pay for these tax cuts. the democrats want some class warfare tax hikes, and the republicans want too slightly reduce the growth rate of government spending. >> paul, why not more substantial spending cuts from the democrats, and then they can really claim the high ground here? >> first off, let me correct the record. 27 republicans, the majority of republicans in the senate voted against the republican way to

pay for it. they voted against the salary freeze, which was an obama nifsh. they want to extend that. the republicans did and spending cuts. the majority of republicans in the senate don't want to pay for this tax cut the way the republican leadership does. they don't want it. now why? they supported every tax cut since 1776 under abraham lincoln, why this one? i think -- this is a mean thing to say. i believe that republicans are acting like they'd rather hurt the economy in order to hurt obama politically, but what they do is hurt themselves politically actually. if this obama middle class tax cut is killed by the republicans, it could cost a million jobs according to independent analysts. it could take 2% off the gdp according to the jpmorgan report. this is a big deal economically. i fear republicans are making the calculation we as one republican aide said, we can't afford to give obama a win. that's what's going on here. they're tanking the economy to

hurt obama. >> aaron, it seems to me that the president's got himself a pretty good campaign issue here, doesn't he? >> he has a good campaign issue. >> i think you're absolutely right about that. especially when you get dan to admit that. let me ask each of you one more thing. i want to switch it over and talk about donald trump. the kissing of the ring, i can't resist. even here everyone is talking about. when is donald trump going to endorse, and how important is the endorsement, gloria? >> honestly, i think it's a side show. i think some may show up in the debate, but in a general election if you're a republican nominee, you don't want to be seen as being too close to donald trump, what after all is a birther and dent work well with independent voters. i think it's a reality show, right? >> i guess that's kind -- i guess that's kind of true. interesting to note, one final

thing, dan. i always fund you get chris yisy out of race and makes his endrsment for mitt romney. everybody thought it would matter so much. it didn't even move the needle. >> republicans are very hungry for someone to adopt the man tell me of ronald reagan, and so far it doesn't seem like there's a reagan in the race. they might have to wait until 2016 for rubio or ryan or something like that. >> all right. paul, bottom line, you think newt's got it in the polls now for the next three weeks, or will we see another swap? this is an over/under question. >> you're a financial expert. you know the volatility in the stock market, we need a political value timt index or something. it's an open question. can newt hold a lead for three weeks? that would be a long time in this race. it's amazing. >> i was talking to republicans today, erin, and the question

they're saying to me is, will newt implode, and if he implodes, when will he implode? before he gets the nomination, if he gets it, or after he gets the nomination. there's a lot of fear on the republican side about newt gingrich. >> all right. well, i want you all to know that over here i found this great magazine in arabic, because i knew herman cain is looking to do something now, right? perfect timing. see if this shows on camera here. the magazine is called the "999." herman cain, editor and chief. >> outstanding, erin. >> i couldn't resist. >> be the headhunter there for mr. cain. >> thanks. >> sure. >> thanks so much to all three of you. i really appreciate you taking the time. all right. ahead, a lot of people say there's no arab spring in the united arab emirates.

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in honor of its 40th anniversary, the united arab emirates had had a lot of cultural events over the past few takes including quite a few that have something to do with camels. since every day feels like a hump day when you haven't slept in a few days like our team, we think it's fair to do a camel report from abu dhabi. we asked three questions. how many words are there for camel in arabic? >> in arabic there are more than 100. >> wow. why is that? >> it's about the father and mother of the camel and the area that the camel was born. >> now, when you see a camel in the desert, is it wild? >> no. because every camel, every owner has a special mark on the camel. it's called alazid. >> a mark on the camel. third question. i know you're getting ready in

abu dhabi for a beauty contest for a winning camel. is she pretty enough? >> this is for the racing only. we use it for tourists and for the students also. a special camel is a black one. >> those are the most beautiful? >> yeah. >> thank you. approximate. >> all right. tufan might not be beautiful enough, but we'll introduce you to beautiful, black camels on another day. next, we talk to sheikh mohammed. he has a lot of camels and a horse collection in the country. he's the prime minister of the united arab emirates, ruler of dubai, protesters and all that is on the table after this. a possible 28,000 job cuts approximate if the postal service goes ahead with big cuts. do you still support it?

that's next "out front."

welcome back to the second half of our show where we make the calls, do the reporting and find the out front five. number one tonight is iran. tensions are rising and escalating quickly. u.s. officials say it's an urgent situation in iran tonight. we're 50 miles away from there live in the united arab

emirates. the capital abu dhabi. we'll show you a picture. it's supposedly one of the most advanced spy technologies that the americans have. now it's unclear exactly what happened to the drone and who may get ahold of the technology if indeed this happened. analysts we talked to tonight including robin mills say oil prices could go $150 or $200 a barrel if there's a disruption in oil supply. syria agreed today to allow arab league observers into the country, but demanded sanctions be dropped in exchange. this is an interesting story because sources here say a lot of arab governments are going along with the sanctions because they think they have because the united states wants them to and the international community wants them to. on the side they call the assad regime and say we'll keep doing business as usual. it's interesting to see how it plays out. more than 4,000 have died in the

protests. number three, it is post office. we could see massive job cuts, up to 28,000 in part due to cost-reducing measures which might include getting rid of next day delivery in some areas. dropping to five days is also on the table. 28,000 workers could lose their jobs. as i indicated 100,000 americans could lose their jobs by 2015. the national association of letter writers says degrading standards not only hurts the public and the businesses we serve, it's counter-productive for the postal service because it will drive more people away. number four, big meetings in europe, but today standard & poor's put the euro zone countries, 15 on a negative credit watch. there's a 50% chance they could get a downgrade in the next 90 days. some of the those people might have been laughing at the united states back in august. maybe not so much now. high government debt, not working together, political dysfunction. the same problems in the u.s. among the countries on the list france and germany, those are

the two everyone expects to pay for the bailout. pot meet kettle. it's 122 days since america lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? the united arab emirates celebrated its 40th anniversary, and i had a rare chance to spend the day with the prime minister of uae. he's known here as his highness. he dreamed up and delivered dubai to the world. he took me on a 35-minute trip to a cabinet meeting where i noticed four women ministers. despite dubai's massive real estate crash where prices plunged 60%, the city still has indoor skiing, the world's talest building and there's an an atlantiatlantis. you can't come here without feeling the crash. many buildings are empty with projects on hold and sand singing back to the sea.

dubai's fate matters to the u.s. they saw the uae is america's biggest ally in the middle east, and abu dhabi sits on 10% of the oil. some of the money goes to america. it's one of the biggest buyers of american weapons. this is not a democracy. in a wide-ranging conversation that included the arab spring, decent and the uae and iran, i asked the sheikh if the ambitions for dubai have changed since the real estate crisis? >> i don't call it a crisis. it's a challenge. this is a challenge. all good leaders when things are all right, but you take a good leader will come in a crisis like that. >> what about the real estate market here? the europeans own a lot of real estate in dubai. when you're here, you see a lot of europeans on vacation and buying property. is the european crisis affecting dubai? >> of course. i mean, even the american crisis

or european crisis affects the market. we're here better than anyone else. we get out of the crisis, and we're back building again. but just remind me, when the crisis, the total spending was completed, all it was in the crisis. all the big projects were not stopped. we only stop some projects in the paper for a year or two. >> i was surprised when i was hear in may at the american university in dubai, and i made a comment i was covering tahrir square during the revolution. the students in the audience were cheering, and you were supportive of them. i wasn't sure whether you would be supportive of them. i wasn't sure how you would react. what's your view of the arab spring? >> in 2004 i said please change our you'll be changed. >> you were talking about arab

governments. >> the arab governments. the arab spring is the people who waited for a long time, and some governments are saving themselves and not saving their people. >> you look at egypt with the first round of elections. they have democracy, but democracy is going to elect the muslim brotherhood and the salafis. very conservative muslim groups. some people have said they're worried that egypt, which is so the important it to the arab world, could become like iran. that they could democratically choose to be like iran with a ayatollah with a totally religious society. do you have that fear at all? >> no. i don't. egypt has a very strong army. they're watching what's happening and giving the lead for this party. >> what about in syria? what do you think is going to happen in syria? >> i think syria is a more complicated than egypt or libya

because they have iran around them, lebanon, and all that. so it is different than naen where else. the peemt want jobs, and they want opportunities. they asked you for it. unless they change and start making things good for the people, or they will carry on like that. >> or he'll go if he doesn't change? >> yeah. >> explain how government works here. the united arab emirates is different. you have accomplished things that other countries have not, but it's not a democracy either. explain how it works. >> we're in tribes. we must save our people. we must get the education, universities here, the hospitals, housing, and no tax here. the government is the wealth to spend on the people.

>> no fax? allot a lot of people like that, no tax. >> no tax. the government is working like today in the cabinet. we made the program. we have our vision. we go through it, and we're achieving that vision, you know? the dream. we are getting there. it's different. when everybody can come to the ruler and say, well, i didn't get that or that or this department or this ministry. give me my rights. >> they come to you and directly ask you, you didn't do this. i want that. you have to answer to the individual person. >> yes. and they will explain about that one ministry, so i get ahold of the minister and say, why don't you do your job? >> there were five tiactivists here in the uae sentenced to two

or three years in jail pardoned on national day. amnesty international called them the uae-5. my understanding is saying all of the free things in the uae, free health care and education and no taxes, he said it was buying off the people. trying to give them money so they're happy so they don't demand change in jipegypt or sy. what's your view of what happened and whether it's okay to say something like that here? >> if you are a criminal you go to court. not everybody is rarely perfect, and we are not perfect, you know. we're doing a lot for our people. we're still having more to do. we hope that we become a better zi citizen for their own good and people. >> it leads to the question, the press isn't totally free. people can't say what they think. is that part how in this society

you need to govern? >> as long as they don't say something wrong about a person or authorities, they can say anything they want. as toild you, we are not perfect. we are still learning. we're trying to do our job right and help our people. we have our own democracy. you cannot transport your democracy to us. we are different. for example, our democracy coming from the koran, and you know, as long as you don't step on somebody else, you are free to do what you like. >> when people look at you, they say your family has ruled dubai for 200 years. your son will rule after you. father to son. will that continue forever, do you think? >> as long as the people want that. we're ruling a bigger tribe because they're accepting us to do that. >> so do you think that there will be more countries with a

governme governments fall in the arab spring? >> i think it's a period of time. in 100 years this might happen again. you have to be careful. you don't know what's happening. i think the gulf state is safe for the time being. >> the issue with the welfare s. it's amazing to have free health care and education and no taxes. it's a good thing. it also sometimes could be not a good thing, because maybe people are a little complacent and they get a little bit lazy because they know someone something to take care of them. instead of starting a new business or working really hard, they know that there's a safety net there. do you ever worry about that? >> not really. not really, because this is only the basic. people want more. they want a better life. they want a better job. so they have to work harder. >> dubai's had some problems, but you're going ahead? so you're showing people that you can take risks and have

failures and stand up and keep going? >> yeah. and don't stop when somebody doubts us. once you make up your mind, then go full speed. that's what we think, and that's what we believe, and that's what is going to happen. i'm not looking for the last spring. i'm looking for the next spring. >> all right. you'll see more. the full day we spent with him, but where we are standing tonight 50 miles from iran. it's a really important relationship for this country, which has two mines about it. they don't want iran to move forward, but it's an important economic partner for the uae, very important in particular for dubai where 15% of the property according to experts i know is owned by iranians. sheikh mohammed said he doesn't think iran would get a nuclear

weapon, because he said they would know that israel or united states would bomb them right back. we shall see. in the mean team antdson cooper 360 is coming up. >> it's a story we brought you on friday. a school for underprivilege kid denied admission because he's hiv positive positive. they admit it, and that's why they're denying him. it outraged many including ryan bh white's mom who said so little has changed. you'll hear from her tonight. you'll hear from the 13-year-old, his response to my questions. plus raw politics is newt versus mitt. newt gingrich and what about his staying power? a new plan tonight involves donald trump. we'll explain. a young man proud to make the prestigious marching band dies. police suspect hazing is to blame. a problem alleged at the

university for yours. we dig deeper on that tonight. those stories and ridiculous at the top of the hour. rer in. >> we're looking forward to that. up next, we talk about a terrible story we hear too much of. a 7-year-old girl kidnapped and found in a dumpster. why do we keep hearing these stories? why do they keep happening? we'll talk about that and go straight to the story. plus, the story we were so passionate about last week. the woman, a church banned her and her fiance from coming to the church because she's white and he's black. stella harville comes out front again with us tonight. ohhhh.... will you marry me? oooh, helzberg diamonds. yeah, well he must have saved some money with geico. reminds me of the gecko mating call. really? how does that go? shoo be doo be doo. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance.

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all right. we do this at the same time every time. out outer circles. we reach out to our sources around the world. because i'm in abu dhabi and the united arab emirates and we begin to connecticut where jurors decide to sentence joshua komisarjevsky to death. the hard to imagine home invasion and brutal murder of a mother and her daughters. deborah feyerick is outside the courthouse. what is the jury discussing? >> reporter: the jury slooking at the overall life of the convicted killer to determine if he should be spared death by lethal injection. for example, they're considering he has a 9-year-old daughter, and that he himself was a victim of sexual abuse as a child,

something that triggered mental problems later on. the jurors have to weigh that and more against the brutal home invasion that left a mom and her two daughters dead following a night of torture. erin. >> well, that story is just still so impossible to imagine, but still there are children that are abducted, murdered, raped every day in this country. it seems that way sometimes when you hear stories like this one. for two days georgia authorities and fbi have been searching for a 7-year-old. she disappeared from a playground in canton, georgia. tonight that nightmare became a horrific reality, because investigators found her murdered in a dumpster near her family's apartment. holly is working the story in canton. what can you tell us, holly? >> reporter: erin, as you can tell everybody here in this neighborhood is shocked and saddened. right behind me they're holding a candlelight vigil.

this is a tight-knit community and apartment complex where people thought they were safe. here's what we know. she was last seen on the playground by herself unsupervised on friday evening and she went missing. her mom called the authorities about 7:00, and they could not find her. they found her unfortunately today in a dumpster. authorities are focusing on this apartment complex right now. could it have been somebody here? they said there were some empty apartment buildings. they may have found some evidence in one of them, to they're keeping a search here. gbi officials are going door to door searching apartments, searching cars and asking any of the neighbors if they've seen anything or know anything, erin. >> thank you very much. erin runyan lost her daughter samantha in 2002. she was 5 years old at the time. she was found sexual abused and murdered. she's an advocate for protecting children from these horrible situations and deaths situation.

thanks for being outfront with us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> there are no suspects. but they're checking the sex offenders in the area. from all the people that you work with, from what you've seen, is it true that these cases usually happen at the hands of already convicted or known-about sex offenders? or is that just perception? >> i think that's really actually just perception. the vast majority of child molesters are never caught. they're never accused much less than convicted of their crimes. it's estimated that fewer than 10% of child molesters are ever caught. so it is important that they check after those who are registered. >> are you serious? >> i'm serious, yeah. these are one of the most underreported crimes in the country. most children do not disclose when somebody is inappropriate with them mp they don't have the word ors the context to say this person touched me inappropriately. that's why we do parent education and empower children

to stop these crimes before they happen. because the first sign of resistance from a child is usually enough to stop a child molester. these people aren't out there looking for a challenge that's why they're preying on kids. they're looking for easy opportunities. >> yeah, oh. it seems from what holly taps talking about, maybe the child was being taken care of by a teenager. you have a teenager watch your kid. that's part of growing up. we all were baby-sitters. but is that part of the problem here? >> i don't think it is. you know, vulnerability in and of itself isn't a bad thing if there aren't bad people looking for opportunities to take advantage of it. we can't be there 24/ 7 watching our children, but it is important that we be as vigilant and provide as much supervision as we can. in communities where there's communal living like apartment complexes and condominium

complexes where we live, when my daughter was taken, it was the same type of scenario. a central courtyard where all the children played. i remember standing out there after she was taken. i knew all of these children but i didn't know half of the parents. i said it should not take a tragedy like this to bring us together as a community to protect our children. there's so much more that we can do. so hopefully jorelys' legacy will help us to bring parents together and talk about how each neighborhood can better protect their kids. >> all right. well, erin, thank you very much, for coming outfront and sharing your story. i know you've gone out and made a big difference. but one of the most amazing things that she just said, for those of you -- only 10%. just stunning. thank you, really appreciate you taking the time. that shocking story that we couldn't. a church banning an interracial couple from coming to the church because they're interracial.

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baptist church in kentucky was 96. that changed this weekend. and the church's new pastor characterized the vote this way. >> a vote to accept all people regardless of race, creed or color, and to accept everyone into the fellowship of christ. >> stella harville is a woman who is engaged to a black man. stella, let me just ask you what's your reaction to this new vote? do you feel relieved, happy, vindicated? what do you feel? >> oh, yes. teach and i are definitely relieved to hear this overturned. however, we're still hurt by this, but at least we've taken a step in the positive direction and we can move on with our lives. >> so what are you going to do now? are you going to go back to the church? are your parents, who i know were members of the

congregation, going to be going back to the church, singing as they used to? >> my parents have expressed they'll return back to the church to support pastor stacy because he's stood by us and supported us throughout all this. they want to help support him in trying to rebuild the church. but as for teach and i, it won't be any time soon. it's just -- it's going to take a lot, a lot of time for us to forgive them. i mean, stacy, we know that we're welcomed by stacy, but it's still hurtful. >> yes, and what about how this vote went down? you said there were two people who abstained in this recent vote this weekend. you said before that's what upset you the most was the people who didn't bother to vote. do you know who abstained and how do you feel about them? >> this shouldn't be a question of debate for a church to accept all people of every race, every

color. that shouldn't even be a debate. and if they have a hard time accepting that, i mean, i really hope they re-evaluate their faith, and all i can do is just, you know, pray to god that they just be open to god's love because they're not the true -- they're not exhibiting the true representation of christ. >> well, thank you so much for being with us and for sharing your story. i'm so glad that it was resolved in this way and that maybe other people can learn from you. stella harville, thank you very much. all right. thank you for watching our show here at live, from abu dhabi and dubai. we look forward to your comments about what you think about democracy and ruling and what you think about dubai. please let us know. we're looking forward to hearing that. and one quick thing just to keep in mind. did you know that the number one coy