thank you for coming and talking to us about this. all the time we have for little riley. good on her for everybody knows his name. >> sometimes it's hey, frasier, but more often than not, hey, kelsey. >> he's the star ot not one but two successful comedies of all time. >> kelsey grammer is a guy that's been trying to save the world because he couldn't save some things in his own life. >> his highs. >> cocaine was too much for me. brought me to my knees eventually. >> his lows and what he really thinks of his ex-wife. >> the real housewives was my parting gift to her. >> kelsey grammer, an extraordinary revealing hour. what a life you've had. do you feel lucky to have ended up. >> i felt lucky all through life. blessed in some way, even in the darkest days.

kelsey grammer is one of the most talked about, one of the most beloved faces in american television history. i'm pleased to say he joins me now. you are really, you're part of the american television consciousness for so long. you must walk around the street and everyone goes, hey, kelsey. everyone must think they know you. >> those things do happen. those events do happen. >> do you like the mass attention you still get or do you say i've done it and i just want to go and -- >> it's always pleasant. it's flattering. it's always meant in an optimistic kind of affectionate way. so i take it that way and return the compliment actually. >> do you enjoy the status of television icon? >> sure.

i've be a fool to say i didn't. >> i would. let's be honest with you. i would. better than the alternative. but to spend your time at the top for decades, very, very unusual to have that kind of length on any sort of television. what do you think was your secret. why you? >> i'm not comparing myself to dick van dyke, but i think there's a characteristic that can help you survive in television which is a kind of an af ability, and a vulnerability. you allow yourself to be human. >> the odd thing about you -- and i mean this in the best sense, i don't think i've ever had an american television star sit here who openly admits to being a republican. >> oh, well, you know. >> you're that guy. >> i'm that guy. >> i think musicians -- i don't think i've ever had a tv person. normally the world of television is just infused with liberals. and most movie stars, i'd say. >> i think you're right about

that. i'm a bit of a rebel. i don't tend to warm too well to people that tell me how i'm supposed to think. so my life in hollywood, i'm afraid i was destined to be a republican. >> how does it go down with all your famous friends? is it lonely out there? >> pretty lonely, but they seem to tolerate me somehow, because i can at least state myself eloquently and without -- without actually kind of assuming the veneer of what they assume is what a republican is is some kind of nasty, strange villain that, you know, should be vilified and hated. >> it's obvious that has become the way republicanism is now perceived in this country. you know, you are either extremely with them, with all that appears to entail, or you're completely against them. but they're very divisive. to say you're a republican now divides people immediately. didn't used to be like that. you go back 30 years, it wasn't like that.

>> the tone of political assessment has changed. honestly, the battle for the hearts and the minds of the american people has taken on a bit more of a violent and narrow approach. i mean, you have to actually make sure that nobody swallows anything of what you are in order to ensure that you get their vote. so it's very easy to understand why you'd want to make somebody hateful. >> are you sympathetic to the tea party element of the republicans? or is that a step too far? >> i'm sympathetic to some of the principles, but i'm not sure that the tea party has behavioral problems other than the ones that have been identified by people who are inimical to them. i'm not sure they say anything i would object to. i've just been told they're lunatics. >> nothing they say be objectionable to you? >> lower taxes are a good idea. always have. so that's what i know they talk about.

>> are you as violently opposed to, say, gay marriage as so many of the tea party candidates? >> i don't think the tea party is -- >> most of them are, yeah. >> against gay marriage. >> against it, yeah. actively against same-sex marriage. >> then i wouldn't sign on to that. >> so there are issues there that you wouldn't agree with. >> absolutely, yeah. >> because you played a famous gay character. >> i'm afraid so. >> you'd be effectively banning yourself. >> no, i've always believed -- i guess i'm more libertarian in that way. i think marriage is up to two people that love each other. if you find a church that you want to get married in, go right ahead. or if you don't believe in god, but see, in my mind, the state of marriage is something that's been kind of endorsed by the idea that it's a sacrament within the context of a faith, of a religious faith. the word "marriage" comes out of our religious side of our experience and our society and our history. so i tend to think the government shouldn't be involved in anyway. >> we'll come to your expertise

in the world of marriage a little later. if only you'd married a good british girl earlier, all this could have been saved. this trouble you've had. >> exactly. >> talk politics. what do you think of barack obama? despite your allegiances, were you excited to see first black president? and did you buy into all the hope, the audacity that came with it? >> i think barack obama's election is a milestone for this country and a wonderful thing. the hope thing, i don't think hope can be given by a politician or by a vote. i think that comes from god. and it's not a policy. there's no political cachet in hope except it may get some votes, but there's no direction in it. >> is that right? >> i think it was a bit of a scam. >> don't presidents inspire their people? >> inspire, certainly. >> isn't that the same as hope

in a way? >> well, you're offering them something that's a contradiction to what you might think of the other guy. but hope itself is not a policy. it never has been. there's no policy in hope. we can all hope. we can hope for free. >> what do you think's gone wrong with america in terms of its business model? why is america tanking economically in the way that it is, do you think? what is the simple answer? >> i would say greed. greed that is at a profound level. we vote based upon what money will get for it. democrats and republicans. >> what kind of politician do you gravitate to? who do you like? >> right now i'm not gravitating toward a lot of people right now. i wouldn't actually say i've thrown my hat in the ring with anybody else at this point. >> the republican ring is, you know, we're getting to the stage where zigtss have to be taken. >> right. >> and the election year begins in a couple of months. someone has to take on barack obama. there's a clear split developing on the republican side between

the tea party element, whether rick perry or michele bachmann or sarah palin or somebody and the moderates like mitt romney, you know, there's a choice to be made by the party, isn't there? which way they're going to go, which type of politician they think can best beat obama. >> right. >> if you were advising them, who do you think is more electable? >> if i were advising them, i'd tell them that they must inspire people to assume that they have a right to make their own decisions about what dreams they wish to dream. and the dream as big that's possibly can. >> what was your dream when you started out? >> what was my dream? just to be a working actor. >> really? >> yeah. >> nothing more glamorous? >> no, just wanted to be a working actor. >> have you fulfilled that? >> yeah, i got a few more extras than i counted on. >> you got all the superstardom. >> i got the fame. >> in terms of your acting aspirations, have you ticked all the boxes you wanted to tick? >> not quite.

>> what's left on the acting block that you'd like to do? >> i started out wanting to be a dramatic actor, ended up being a comedic actor, now i've gone back to being a dramatic actor now. i have shakespeare stuff i want to play. >> if you have one role left to play, what would it be? >> one role left to play. >> i can award you any role and you can have any cast you like, the greatest performance of your life, what would it be? >> isn't that funny? >> what's the role? >> what's the role? >> they say your character in "boss" is king lear-esque. you look like king lear. >> the character doesn't have a beard, at least not this season. i just grew the beard because kate likes it. what one role, gosh, i don't know. but probably a villain. maybe a tiago. tiago is an interesting character because it's the character that has the most

words of any character in all of shakespeare. almost every sentence is not i have a pentameter, i am the pentameter and a half. it's very dense, very full language. what is most appealing about playing the role is for as evil as he is, he is so well liked by the audience. >> do all actors in the end quite fancy playing evil? is it just more fun being evil? >> sure. >> it is, isn't it? >> yeah, no, it's a ball. but you always want it to be in context because honestly virtue should win. >> eventually. >> eventually, yes. >> let's take a break and i want to take you back to when the acting all started, then get into the phenomenon of "frasier" there's no other way to describe it. you're a phenomenon, kelsey. [ mujahid ] there was a little bit of trepidation,

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nick the first pictures coming in from north korea. these first pictures of the funeral of a the late leader of north korea and a very important part of this is what his son is doing. his role, what he is doing in the course of the funeral procession. we have seen him at the front carrying the body of his father, so it just going back to his son because this is the problem.

this is what has unnerved south korea on news of the debt is we don't know about his inexperienced son. he is not tested. what is he likely to bring to the table here? he is very young and he really hasn't had a lot of experience in leadership. >> exactly. he is not even 30 he had and he is very inexperienced especially in military leadership. the military is incredibly important in north korea and many of the general said he is now in charge of are in their 70s or 80s, involved in the korean war back in the 1950's. it could be difficult for many of them to be taking the orders or swearing loyalty to a 20 something boy who is not proven yet on the field, and the military field. of course, this is why over the past year, we saw him making changes and making some internal

promotions with the north korea, most notably his uncle to try to set up his framework of hell, his remark of training for when this succession takes place. of course, analysts are worried that this could mean another provocation in the future. of course, last year, there were two tax act against south korea and they blame that on north korea. both of those ended in the deaths of 50 south koreans. they were believed to have been taken place because they needed to show some power because he needed to show the succession would go ahead no matter what the military was strong or the country was stronger. this is why the provocations to place. could this be the case once again? once the period is over and they have a few months or even a

couple of years to settle in, will he believe he has to carry out another provocation in order to prove his strength? it is just one of the great unknowns. real fear of the unknowns in north korea. >> it is a fear be on south korea, too, because the neighboring countries, and indeed, the united states very concerned about what lies ahead, the future particularly as you point out, such an untested young leader who perhaps is looking to prove himself. >> exactly. and depending on who you speak to, there is an expectation of provocation. speak to another north korean expert and they say there will not be any provocation. he will want to lay low for 80 years. really impossible to know, looking back to what his father did when he took power back in 1994, he actually was quiet for about three years while he found

his feet while he did some purges of the leadership and was trying to create his support base and make sure that it was solid. this could be the case as well and he could have a support base around him that his father has already put in power. his uncle and also his aunt who is his sister are both expected to be helping him very closely. the chief of staff and the military is also expected to be helping him very closely to show that he does have the support of the military. so he does have the support staff, as far as we can tell from this distance. >> tell us more about his brother's because, of course, the older brothers were passed over and his father decided that the person who is best suited to succeed him was his third born

child. >> that is right. something we're looking at for today as well. his older brother, is he at the proceedings? it is understood he wasn't reportedly on the last plane from beijing that he is thought to be headed into p'yongyang last night. is the at his father's funeral at all? he had always been thought to be the favorite in the past but then he fell of a favor some years ago when he was caught trying to sneak into tokyo into japan on a fake passport, apparently trying to go to tokyo in disneyland. he fell at a favor with his father at that point and it was an embarrassment for the north korean regime. since then, he really hasn't had much to do with north korea. he has been in and out occasionally but not recently, as far as i know.

he really put himself out of the running early on. the middle son as well was never really considered an option. it was -- we're being told by those who know them, the japanese ship used to work with them, he is telling south korean media that it was not the first two sons, it was the third here resembles his father the closest. the one that was a chip off the old block. it was more than likely that he was going to be chosen. >> and whoa me go back to the day that he died on december 17th, the days that followed, we saw the people across north korea sobbing. and if there was much speculation as to how many of those genuinely felt that way about the dear leader, as he is not. are we able to surmise whether that is a large portion of the

population that feels a deep loss here or whether it was expected that people would get out on the streets and show this remorse and the sadness for the loss of their leader? >> is definitely expected that people would be out on the streets showing their remorse. it is absolutely impossible to know how many people that we see crying and weeping and wailing in the streets are actually doing so a genuinely and sincerely. inevitably, there will be many did believe the propaganda that did believe that he was doing what he could to try to help the north korean people. the propaganda machine was incredible within north korea itself. you are almost brainwashed. you didn't know what was happening in the outside world, maybe some other border areas with china, you may have got information through. the information you were being fed was from the north korean

propaganda machine. inevitably there will be many people that you see sobbing on the streets and falling to their knees that are doing this genuinely. there is also the case that of

funeral, the dear leader as he is called died on december 17th of a heart attack, and now the world is watching and the reason why we are particular about looking at these pictures is observers want to see the role of his son and what he will take. we have seen that, that his son has been front and center, the vehicle that is carrying the body of his father, he was at the front of the vehicle on the right, showing that he is ready to take hold of the rains. and this is very important for north korea to show this to the world because they want the world to know that they have a leader in charge, ready to move forward. we don't know what this new leader offers to the world

because he is an experienced and untested. as we mentioned, cnn is not allowed to report from inside north korea so we're talking to her, she is in south korea and we very much want to get an idea of what people are saying to you in south korea about this as this unfolds, knowing this year-old was going to take place, we have known in the last few days about the death of the north korean leader. what are they saying to you about their fears going forward? >> the main concern, obviously, and south korea specifically is the fear of the imam. this has been a flurry of diplomatic activity around the region, as you can imagine, since the death was announced on tuesday. we had a meeting between the south korean foreign minister and the chinese vice foreign minister. they were discussing the repercussions of his death and

they both agreed that the stability in the region was the most important thing. the stability in north korea is a very important thing. this is what people are hoping for, at this point, to destabilize north korea, it could be far more dangerous than a stable north korea. what some analysts are expecting is we may not see much change over the next months or even years. we may see that he actually follows his father and he might actually continue those policies. here is a report i did earlier. >> reporter: north korean mourning is public and vocal. state-owned television shows images of people crying in the streets. expressing their grief for the late leader, and how much is genuine and how much is choreographed is impossible to know.

rewind to 1994, the death of his father. experts say motions appeared more sincere. morning for the founding father was intense. north korea followers say the atmosphere appears different this time. there are clear similarities between their debts, but died from heart attack and the subsequent successions. in 1994, he was negotiating with the new yes on nuclear disarmament. it was feared the deal would die with him. but his son follow through and signed the framework and the deal later collapsed. just before his death, the deal with the u.s. was close for halting uranium enrichment according to u.s. officials. the process could be continued. >> in a short time, the funeral process is orderly and a short timetable, we'll no provocation.

there will be no abrupt changes in domestic processes in north korea. so in the short term, i think the system more be very stable for now. >> experts are wary of making the same basic assumption that they made 17 years ago. >> in 1994, we all fought the future is over. and we thought that north korea would collapse sooner or later. but now there are a lot of uncertainties. >> reporter: in 1994, the economy was stronger but the predictions for a diagnostic would be worse. freedom is nonexistent and many predict the succession will be smooth. the success could rest largely on a very powerful supporter.

>> in 1994, there was no support from china and at the time the relationship between north korea and china was poor. now there is support from china. >> we are now watching continued footage from north korean television. watching the corteges still going through the streets of p'yongyang. as we expected, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of north koreans are lining the streets where he is being driven, many of them weeping and many of them whaling and this is very reminiscent of what we saw at his grandfather's funeral. in 1994. the last chance for many of these north koreans to say good-bye to their dear leader pierre [ applause ] >> let's just listen and because there is a lot of natural sound there that i think gives you a sense of what people are feeling

here. as we have said, cnn cannot report from inside north korea. all we can tell you is this is how people are feeling out on the streets on this day, that their dear leader is taken to his final resting place.

he died on december 17 from a heart attack, and there has been much concern throughout the world, particularly in south korea, the worry is what happens next. when you have a nuclear power dealing with a new killer power. we want to go back to paul hancock, as we mentioned we are reporting from north korea but she is in south korea and let's look at that again as we look at those people exaggerated feelings out on the streets, the sadness that people appear to feel at the loss of their leader. although not unexpected. >> absolutely not. we were expecting tens of thousands and potentially hundreds of thousands of people in the streets of p'yongyang. you can see is so heavy that we don't know whether or not these pictures are like. we would assume not but we don't

know from the north korean television. and this is what will be expected in a country like north korea. a regime that has been built up that he has built up. his persona has been built up to such an extent that it is expected of north koreans to be seen to be wailing and weeping and grieving so heavily. now we have seen some very strong language from the state media that has been calls for him to rise up again, asking the general why he has left them at this time. so clearly, this is what we would have been expecting, a military presence as well. you can see on the streets, thousands of members of the 1.1 million strong army on the streets to say good-bye to him. this is expected. remember, he was the architect

of the military first policy. we >> we did see in 1994 with his father's funeral. and certainly we can see there are a tremendous amount of personnel waiting there and watching proceedings. >> indeed. reporting there in seoul in south korea. if you could stand by, paula, we will be coming back to you as we watch the first pictures coming through from north korean vent

death. so what you're seeing on the tv is well managed, well scripted state propaganda, as well. if you see the pictures, you are seeing many citizens crying really sincerely, sending their leader into eternity.

>> tell us what you think is next in the form of kim jong-un as the new leader of this very reclusive nation, what does he bring to the table? will he do what his father did in 1994, kim jong-il, and stay quiet until he gets ahold of what's going on here? or is he likely to try to flex his muscles here? >> i mean, after all, kim jong-un is only 28 years old, and the thing is, he's encircled by so-called the wise men, who has been running the country for the last 20 years, since the end of the world war. this is the country that gave hard times to the united states playing nuclear card. and also this is the country that is a state system in the

aftermath of the cold war when its socialist friend went into collapse. so i think that north korea has a lot of experiences and the north korean leadership is essentially, military party, and kim's family shares the same political destiny. in other words, kim jung-un is the holy grail of their life's well-being. so i guess for two or three years during the official condolence period, i think they will go through their so-called crisis with more collective leadership style, having kim jong-un as more of an iconic figure. >> i do want to just raise the point, professor because you mentioned that kim jong-un was 28. he knew he wasn't yet 30, but

you're pretty sure he's 28 years old? >> i mean, it depends on how you count the age. in korea, basically if you're born, you're already one year old. because we count when you're an infant in your mom's womb, we count that as your first year. in korean age, we say 28, 29, but in western system, you know, you may be 27, although you are 28 in korean age. >> indeed. we are still, no matter what, talking about a very young man, who is incredible inexperienced. >> if i add a little bit more. i think that age doesn't really matter here, because if you look around the world, you know, a lot of big inventors, venture capitalists and innovators, they are essentially people in their

20s. and we are also talking about the state system encircled by many experienced officials and military. so i think that age should be -- matter less, i think. >> i'm talking to a professor at the university, and we are looking at these first pictures in from north korean television, if you just joined us. this is the funeral procession of kim jong-il. he died december 17 of a heart attack. what your' seeing here, an incredible military presence at this funeral. we just want to pautz to listen for a moment because people there on the streets are distraught. some suggest that not all of it is genuine. but let's just listen how distressed they are. [ speaking foreign language ]

>> so you can wear the wailing in the background and the numeration, as well, that coming from north korean tv. because we are using their pictures. now, we didn't receive these live. these are carefully choreographed and produced for the benefit of the word to see that this is carefully scripted. i want to go back to you, professor, because this is a very important part of this story, isn't it? just how people are feeling about the loss of what they call their dear leader. >> yeah. can we repeat it? >> we're just looking at these pictures and we're getting closeup pictures of members of the military who are sobbing, they're wailing. of course, we talked about how maybe some of this is not

perhaps as genuine as some people might think. but then you mentioned the importance of this wailing and crying and showing this distress as a part of the movement for the dear leader as he moves onto the next world, if you like. >> you know, this is essentially a good opportunity for north korean leadership that just came out to send us their own -- in terms of succession politics they are going through right now, in terms of the hardship of their economy, i think that north korean leadership is trying to protect the idea of stability. basically showing a lot of soldiers, a lot of people crying, showing that they're essentially saying that hey, our leadership is in tact, and business will be as usual. and kim jung-un will be the

figure of the so-called line from the kim's family. >> and if you were to predict -- if you were to write the headlines for tomorrow, what would you suggest the future of this region is so far? >> condolence will be the first word. and the second word will be stability. in other words, if you look around the northeast asian region since the death of kim jong-il last week, perhaps what you have is the activation of the regional politics among south korea, japan and china. the japanese prime minister went to beijing a couple days ago and their prime topic of discussion was how we achieve stability around the korean peninsula. and we have the minister of foreign affairs that how are we

going to manage the life after kim jong-il in the korean peninsu peninsula. nobody wants any sudden change of the status quo in the korean peninsula. so the key word here for understanding is how they want to maintain the status quo of the stability. >> right. >> the stability would be the key word. >> all right. professor choi, stand by, if you would. we do appreciate your perspective and analysis on this. i do want to make the point to our viewers across the globe, people across the united states are tuning in to us and in our usual global viewers, we do not know if these pictures are live or not, but we do know that they are from north korean tv. and that they are very carefully choreographed. these are the pictures that

north korea wants the world to sea, wailing people on the streets here. and their dear leader, in a car, right at the head of the procession with a gigantic picture of the dear leader, kim jong-il. and of course, too, perhaps mor father right at the front on the right of that vehicle. and that is important, because observers across the world wanted to see what role he would take in his so this is a very important change that we've seen over the last 17 years or so. let's go back to our paula

hancocks, inside north korea. so paula, when we look at these pictures, and it is indeed a very dreary, cold, snowy day therethere. what is likely to happen next? do we have any idea as we watch the vehicle? we can just see there in the snow the picture of the dear leader at the head there of the procession. >> reporter: well, what we know from state media kcna, is that this procession through the streets will be about 40 kilometers long. so it could take some time yet. obviously, it's very slow going with the weter and they want to drive slowly, as well, so mourners can say their last good-byes and pair their final

respects. and after that, we don't know exactly what we kind of shown given what we saw just 17 years ago with kim il sun, kim jong il's father. he will be going to the memorial palace. now, this is where kim il sun is being laid to rest. we would assume that the same will happen with kim jong il. but it could be some kind of ceremony, as well. but, of course, this is all guesswork at this point. but this is the very important part that north korea is what what the world to see. the stick lines of crowd. it's probably about 10 people deep, judging from the pictures that we can see there. if this is 40 kilometers long, as kcna is saying it is, that is a will the of mourners on the

street to say good-bye to kim jong il. they want to show that this man was loved. they've been careful to choreograph it very carefully. they want to show the best side. but also that kim jong um has been accepted within north korea and by the military. but as i say, this is all what the public eye can see at this poibt. privately, it is impossible to know what is really happening. >> indeed. a very good point to see. standby again, if you wouldn't mind, paula, because we do want to come back to you for your incredible and excellent analysis only this as we work our way through this, the funeral procession of kim jong il who died on december

17th from a hareart attack. thank you so much for talking with us. what are your thoughts as you watch these pictures. and a lot of close ups, too, of the people who are out on the street there is wailing and crying of the loss of their dear leader. >> yes, i think the first point i'd like to em phasize is that kim jong's funeral vehicle was escorted by very important people. we had anticipated that. first of all, on both sides, it was escorted by kim jong un, the vice president of the party. and then behind him, there was cong seong and then behind me

there was nam, propaganda secretary of the party. so there were party people. and behind them there was the chairman of the supreme people's assembly. and the other side was escorted by military people at the very forefront there was the chairman of the joint chief of staff. and behind him was chun, defense minister. and then behind him, there was the military party bureau. first deputy director. so this symbolizes kind of power parade of the future in north korea which would be supported by party on one hand and military on the other. so these figures are representing those party apparatus. >> yes. and very important to know wofs

surrounding and escorting the vehicle carrying the body of kim jong il. let's just listen in again. what was very interesting about that picture while you were speaking to us is we could see the microphone coming out very close to all of the people crying and wailing orphan the streets. i want you to talk to that, if you would, just how important it is for north korea to get that emotion out. that sense of great loss that the people of north korea are feeling. >> um-hmm. yes. you know, i think north koreans are trying to show that the north korean people on the stre street, even if they are not on the street right now, you know, they are wailing. they are crying from the bottom of their heart.

so this signifies north korea is very kind of stable. and history is continuing, even after the deaths of kim jong il. he will continue in his father's legacy and north korea's political system will remain intact. it's kind of a message kind of being delivered by the whole world by those pictures. particularly, the people on the street. >> and professor, let's just -- i do want to just listen in for a moment because we do have the close ups. and then, of course, we get this very much the big picture looking from the rear side of this procession. let's just listen here, now, for a moment.

>> about and here, she is btsds herself. >> you know, if i translated where is the great leader heading for after leaving the beloved people of dprk, okay. so that means, you know, people are very, you know, deeply upset about the loss of kim jong il.

that's why people are crying by saying that where is he going after leaving all of under the circumstances us, you know. so that's express, you know, a deep kind of a set nis on the part of most korean people. >> and processor, i wonder if we koul direct our tension now to the next phase for north korea and we look at kim jongun, the dear leader's son. we are dealing with a very young man who hads not had a lot of experience. what do you expect? what are the people in south korea the presidenting from this new leader. how concern are they? push. >> i think we need to take a

look at the triangular relati relationship amoing kim jo thrks g and chun tek. and he leaders of the military is kient of a triangle relap ship. for the moment, i think playing add a guardian or advisor. and also the military lead herbs are providing for a while. by the way, this kind of a triangular relationship could be tilted towards our table situation if kim jong un doesn't

fully trust one another but i think this kind of triangular relationship, for the moment, where it's been maintaining stable. but after king jong un realizes, he would be able to grasp kind of a key hour of parade. i the that this kind of triangerer lal relationship have been a good stabd out. so we have to see how things will be unfolded in the future. >> we do know that his father, the dear leader who is now departed, we know back in 19 4 when his father days, nothing remained into him untim he thaulgt he had hold of rains

there, if you like. you know, sons usually do not act quite literally for years after his father's death. that's why he was kind of aren'ting his kind of culture. his case is a little bit different in the sense that kim jong spsz un has had more time to con doll date. wh his father passed away. he was working on his tourn until 1994.

but king jon dprks hat a less than 2 years of kind of 30uer and structure process. >> professor, let's pause for a moment again and just listen in

to the streets as we watch the funeral process session of the late kim jong il. bank blank ♪

>> so we are listening in to the streets in north korea where the funeral prosuggestion of kim jong il has been underway for some time now. and we are watching tho pick curs by a north dree yan tv. and we know that kim jon guys on a hard attack. and the world is intrigue to watch what is haing here. many observe herbs wanting sto save the roam that kim jonk ideel will take.