>> who knew arlen specter and the dirty jokes? that does it for me. brooke baldwin will be in for erin tomorrow night. tonight, true hollywood royalty -- the dude himself. you are the dude! i mean to millions of people around the world, jeff bridges, you will always be the dude. i can't pretend anything else. >> isn't it a good one? >> just one of the best movies. >> just so good! >> jeff bridges, actor, oscar winner, star of some of the biggest movies of the past 40 years. the fabulous baker boys, crazy heart, true grit and many more. tonight jeff bridges is live, his work and his latest passion -- that's music. the great jeff bridges for the hour. the dude. this is piers morgan tonight.

good evening. is it possible to have a 40-year career in hollywood, makeover, 60 movies and still have a reputation as mr. nice guy? well apparently it is if you're jeff bridges. he joins me now to test this theory. everybody tells me in the business and out you're the nicest guy in show business. how do you plead? >> i'm going for guilty. what the hey. >> have you always been easy to work with? because the running theme of all your co-workers has always been, you're just the nicest guy to work with. >> yeah, i think i have. you know? i take my lead from my old man, lloyd. lloyd bridges. you know, my dad who loved show biz so much and i got to work with him as a kid on "sea hunt." whenever there was a role for a little kid, come on, get out of school, play with dad. that kind of thing.

but as an adult i got to work with him twice on "tucker," and a movie called "blown away." and it was a little different experience. as an adult, i saw when he came on the set how much fun he was having and how that fun was kind of contagious, you know, and when you're having fun, you kind of relax and your best work kind of bubbles up. >> and your mother actually came up with a similar sort of intrigue to have fun in life. >> that was the tip she would always give me. and my wife does it now, whenever i go off to a job, my mom used to say -- my wife says now -- remember, have fun and don't take it too seriously. you know. that really -- >> have you learned that or have you -- because i notice the interesting career path you've taking. you are taking this year off to do music but you actually made about ten movies that you were really convinced you wanted to do this at all. >> absolutely.

>> the tear in your life has always been between music an movies. >> well, you know, like most kids, i didn't want to do what my folks wanted me do. i had my own ideas. >> they were both movie stars. >> no. my mom wasn't a movie star. they met in ucla. you know. in the drama department. my mom was probably the best actor of the whole bunch, but they were so encouraging about show biz and my dad loved it so much. and i dug it pretty much. but i had this music thing going that i just really loved and i had those dreams. but then the movie thing took off and it was like a path of least resistance kind of thing. like i said, i enjoyed it. and so at a certain part of my -- i can tell you kind of the moment -- want me to tell you --

this is kind of an in-depth interview. i can go into those kinds of things, right? i was making a movie called "last american hero." >> i remember. >> maybe 14th, 15th movie. and it was about playing a stock car driver. and normally after a film, i have this feeling of, oh, i never want to make another movie again. it uses this funny kind of muscle, this pretending business. i say i don't want to pretend anymore, just want to be me. that kind of thing. so i was going through that period right after that film. and about a week after that film was complete, i got a call from my agent, very excited. and he said, oh, i've got great news. john frankenheimer wants you to be in the ice man cometh with lee marvin and two others. i said, oh, that's nice, i'm going to pass. he said what do you mean? i said i'm bushed, man, i'm going to pass. he said you're kidding me?

i said no. he hung up. and about five minutes later lamont johnson, the director from "last american hero" called me up. he has a very low voice. "ice man cometh" down. i said, yeah, i'm bushed, lamont. my career path will be here and i know i don't really particularly want to do this. maybe i will do it and this will put the final nail in the coffin of my acting career. so i experiment. so i got on-board on that film. it was such an interesting experience. most movies if you're lucky, you get two weeks rehearsal, then you shoot for eight, ten weeks. this was like flipped around.

it was a ten-week rehearsal with these great master actors and a wonderful director, and then we shot it in two weeks. so it was a big play. that play is like four hours long so it was a chance of working with these old masters. >> is that when you really fell in love with the craft of acting. >> oh, yeah. yeah. i mean something about it. and interesting thing about anxiety, like this "remember, have fun," and all that. i thought early on, gee, maybe if this anxiety finally -- do you it for so long and it kind of goes, but on that film, "ice man cometh," i learned that's not the case. most of my scenes were with robert ryan, wonderful actor. we had most of our scenes over a table like this. sitting there, all right, ready to go, rolling. he put his hands down, i see these big puddles of sweat. i said, bob, after all these years, you're still nervous?

he said, oh, yeah, i'd really be scared if i wasn't scared. >> really! >> then you see frederick march, he was like in his late '80s and his anxiety and his not wanting to drop this great opportunity -- >> and do you get that? >> oh, man -- big time! >> because people imagine that making movies, because of the pace of them, unlike say live theater, that there's no real nerves because if you make a mistake you just redo. >> oh, no. but it's the whole -- the term "dropping the ball," that's what it feels like. remember when "crazy heart," for instance, what an opportunity, do this movie -- >> for you it was the perfect film. you're playing your own dream role. >> and my buddt- in charge with the music, how wonderful. yeah, but are you going to be able to pull it off, are you going to do it. it is like the wide receiver going out for that long ball, please, let me catch this thing! you know. >> it's fascinating. >> creates more anxiety even. you know. >> when you played that role,

obviously music being this great passion outside of movies for you, you could see it in the depiction of the character. i mean have you ever thought that could have been you. you could have had this career and ended up like a washed-up old cowboy, has-been. >> glad i listened to the old man. >> when you were wobbling about the movies, what did your dad say to you? >> what did he say? you know, he didn't have to say much because these opportunities kind of kept -- "the last picture show," that happened when i was 19 or 20 years old. that got nominated for an academy award. >> let's watch a little clip. >> what you so mad before? i never done nothing to you. >> i guess screwing my girl ain't nothing to you? >> i ain't screwing her. >> hell, you ain't. >> i'm getting her back, i'm telling you right now. she's going to marry me one of these days. >> she's going off to college soon.

i doubt i'll ever get to go with her again myself when she gets off. i never saw what it could hurt to go with her through this summer though. she's never going to marry you. >> she is, by god. don't you tell me she won't. she never let you screw her, that's for sure. >> what are you thinking? >> i'm thinking of timmy bottoms what a wonderful actor he is. he didn't get the recognition i don't think that he deserved in that movie. but movies are full of that kind of thing. the stuff that goes unnoticed. >> what role did you get that you didn't get the recognition? >> i don't know, good critic -- i mean --

you get kind of better that way. a movie called "the amateurs, had a wonderful cast, you know." but roles, i don't know. when i look at my own work, i am quite critical when i view it. almost like a green light and red light that goes up. >> are you a good critic of your own acting? >> i don't know, good critic. >> i think so, yeah. >> you got oscar nominated six times and finally you get it. it was a wonderful moment when you won the oscar and we'll come back to that a bit later. but did you feel despite all your best efforts, 60-odd movies, were you never actually going to win an oscar? does it begin to eat away? >> no, no, no. >> it has to.

>> no, it's a relief when they don't call your name. >> you don't mean that. >> oh, yes, it's totally true! >> it can't be good to lose. >> oh, it's wonderful. i even said it blows my underappreciated status. that was the cool place to be. that's the place you want to be. >> it's like more comfortable there. you're not as exposed. >> for all kinds of reasons. it's just nicer. you know, to be not put on the spot of having to, you know, be anything else or anything. no, it's wonderful to be acknowledged by your peers, guys who do what you do to get that tip. that does -- that's in the nomination. >> are you comfortable with the fact that right now you're about as big a movie star as america has? does that scare you? does that unnerve you? do you wish you could crawl back into the --

the more comfortable zone? >> as you say that, it's kind of challenging. yeah. only when you say it. normally i don't think about that kind of stuff. >> it's true, very few people have had the kind of run of success you've had maybe it is because you're slightly unnerved by it -- >> yeah, yeah. >> is it partly that? >> is it partly what? >> are you partly deliberately getting out of the movie game for a year just to give it a break, to calm things down? you must be getting every script out there. >> yeah. yeah. maybe i wanted a little break -- i did a bunch back-to-back with "tron" and "true grit," came very close together. i talk about that pretend muscle getting exhausted. i was pretty wiped that way. also with music, we may get to this later on, this year i wanted to not do the movies but do music and also work on ending

hunger in our country. >> we're going to talk about the charity in a moment. i am curious before we go to break, about the psychology of jeff bridges, who at the peak of his powers when everybody wanted to give you the best roles out there, you walk away for a year. what should we read into this? can't just be because you fancy a bit of music. >> well, it was just bushed. that's the word that comes to mind. i was burned. you know. and that's kind of always how i played it. just -- i've been so fortunate. my god, i'm a product of nepotism. you know. my dad -- the hardest thing about acting as a profession is getting the break. you know? as you know, you do a show all about that kind of stuff. and my dad, he said, hey, come on, do this thing. so he got me in there. once that kind of took off, i've

never really been that ambitious or eager or any of that stuff. you know? it's funny. >> well imagine, you should reserve the right to feel burned. >> yeah, there you go, man! >> when we come back, i want to talk to you about the woman who you said this about. when i was young and in my 20s i had a fear of marriage, i thought it was a giant step towards death. then you met a woman and you thought, now this is interesting. and everything changed. >> we taking a break? ♪ sen♪ co-signed her credit card - "buy books, not beer!" ♪ ♪ut the second at she shut the door ♪ ♪ girl started blowing up their credit score ♪ ♪ she bought a pizza party for the whole dorm floor ♪ ♪ hundred pounds of makeup at the makeup store ♪ ♪ and a ticket down to spring break in mexico ♪ ♪ but her folks didn't know 'cause her folks didn't go ♪

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take it back. hey! go to bed, frank, or this is going to get ugly. yeah? >> [ bleep ] newlywed game. >> that was you and your brother, bo, in the immortal, "the fabulous baker boys." >> what a dream that was, bo, music and michelle. >> the dream team.

>> oh, man. >> i'll read you a quote before we went to the break about how your marriage changed. you said this is interesting when you met this woman called susan. and then last year you said, i really am more in love with her now than ever. that was 34 years later. >> yeah. >> what was it about her? how did you know she was going to be that interesting to you? >> it was the corny love at first sight thing. >> literally. >> oh, yeah. >> where were you? >> i met her on a movie set. i was -- one of my favorite states, montana, making a movie called "rancho deluxe." we were doing a scene with harry dean stanton and richard bright soaking in a hot tub in a dude ranch called chico hot springs. >> i just love the image you're conjuring. >> oh, yes. and you know how guys -- you know, they'll take a magazine or

something and they'll look like this, use that as a shield to check out the girls. so i'm doing that. and i see this girl, gorgeous girl who's watching us. she looks like she's working there or something. she's got a broken nose and two black eyes and she's just gorgeous. i cannot take my eyes off her and she busts me every time i'd look at her. and it's -- i don't know for you, i would imagine for you, too, it is tough asking a girl out. you got to really, you know, get the courage -- >> men find it much harder than women think they do. >> don't you think? >> totally. >> so i finally worked my courage up to ask her out and i say, would you like to go out tonight? and she goes, no. it's a small town, maybe i'll see you around. i said really? she goes, yeah. i said okay. and her prophecy came true and

maybe -- it might have been that night or the night after that, i saw her in a bar and we danced and that was it and now we cut 20 years later or something, i'm married. we've got three kids. i'm sitting at my desk opening my mail and i get a letter from the make-up man on that show and he says, i was going through my files and i came across a photograph that might be of interest to you. it's a shot -- it's two shots of you asking a local girl out for a date. and i look at the thing, and it's a picture of me asking my wife out for a date from that moment and her saying no and there was a picture taken. >> of the moment of rejection. >> of that moment! and -- a close-up, because he thought she was the prettiest girl in the joint. you know? and he took her picture. i'll show it to you right now.

i carry it -- this is my prized possession. and here it is. you won't -- you'll see -- you ask me why i fell in love or what -- well, there are the pictures right there. >> look at that. >> isn't that wild? and you can see -- >> that's absolutely -- >> that is the moment -- the first words that i ever spoke to my wife asking her out and her answer was no. >> that is absolutely extraordinary. >> show how pretty she is with her two black eyes. >> you have the faces -- >> this is her again? >> how did she get the black eyes? >> car accident. i thought it was her boyfriend. i was going to save her and all that. but no. >> i love this. >> isn't that sweet? what an amazing thing. >> whenever i think, was she the right woman -- and there's no question. >> why do you think you've been able to have such a happy

sustainable marriage in a business which is so littered with failure in that department? >> luck i'm sure has a lot to do with it. and my parents were very -- i was going to say happily but they went through unhappy times, too. and i think sue and i, we've developed a practice of kind of leaning into those tough times and looking at those -- now here's an opportunity for us to get a little more intimate, to know a little bit more about each other and we don't shy away from -- it doesn't scare us so much. and in a marriage, i was going -- we've been married what, 34 years? i forget that sometimes. but it is a long time. but it doesn't take 34 years to find out that you're going to clash and whether you take those

clashes and say, all right, that's it, that's the line, i am out of here, or you take that as an opportunity to make -- grow a little bigger, to hold that, and to hold that, you do that quite a while and you make that your practice. >> you think too many people just throw in the towel too early? >> i think so, yeah. yeah. because the rewards become so wonderful and it becomes more and more precious, the deeper -- the more you do that, the deeper -- the deeper the intimacy becomes. that's the high in life, be intimate? that's what we want to do, all of us, i think. >> also there is a great comfort, isn't there, from having that kind of relationship with somebody for so long if you can be that close to someone, go through the peaks and troughs. >> oh, yeah! >> when you get the great loves, it must be just ten times better. >> and i find that the clash is always -- it is kind of an ancient thing. a little different version of the same thing. you know, over and over.

huh? >> we're going to have a little break, come back and talk about my personal favorite part of your life and it's obviously "the big lebowski," you are always the dude. when we come back. so who ordered the cereal that can help lower cholesterol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i?

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are you employed, mr. lebowski? >> wait, let me explain something to you. i am not mr. lebowsky. you're mr. lebowsky. i'm the dude. >> to millions of people, jeff bridges, you will always be the dude. i can't pretend anything else. loved you in "crazy heart." lots of other movies. to me, every year literally i watch "the big lebowsky." bottle of wine, great friends, we howl with laughter. >> isn't that a good one. >> it is just so good! >> smart, funny comedy. these things should go hand and hand. >> those cohen brothers. they make it look so easy. >> did you know from the script how good it was going to be? >> i read that thing and it made me laugh all the way through it. i was kind of surprised when it first came out and it didn't do much here. had to go over on the other side of the pond, then come back years later and it became the cult of occult hit.

>> john goodman said about your performance, it is like watching a diamond cutter. when you look at the diamond you don't think of the work. you just notice there are no flaws. >> how beautiful. how beautiful. >> what did you make of that? >> that's very sweet. that's very sweet. >> quite a compliment. >> it is. it really is. that's kind of what i aspire to and the kind of work that i appreciate where you don't see it. you don't see it going on. you know. >> are you aware of the kind of -- i don't know -- admiration is not really quite strong enough word that you now have amongst your peer group? i mean when we talk to them, they all now talk about you as being one of the great, great actors in the country right now. >> oh, that's good to know. >> are you aware of that? are you proud of that? >> yeah. yeah. especially with this award thing. when those guys stood up -- wow. strong. that's a strong feeling. >> when they announced you as the winner of the best actor,

what did you really feel in that moment? >> i felt my folks. yeah. i feel like i'm an extension of them really. >> what would they have made of it, you think? >> they were there -- circling the room and they were just, you know, beaming, smiling and, oh. >> you could feel it. >> oh, god, yeah. >> was that the greatest moment of your life? >> i would say the kids -- seeing the kids born beat that. >> but professional. >> yeah. but for an actor to win best actor at the academy awards, it doesn't get better than that. >> that's true. getting that nod. it feels great. but then there's just the work itself and working with all these great -- the cool thing about the profession as far as i'm concerned is the chance to

work with all these other artists. you know. and then to throw your -- throw all of your artistry together and you shake it up and you don't know what's going to happen. you've got high hopes, but every once in a while it just transcends everyone's expectations. >> well, it did this perfectly in "crazy heart." let's have a look at a clip from "crazy heart." ♪ >> i mean it was a spectacular role. as you finished that movie, did you quietly have a feeling this could be the one? >> it felt so good. so many elements. but, you know, there's a lot of stumbling room between finishing a movie, and then it coming out and people seeing it. you know.

we were so fortunate to have fox search light be our distributor who are the specialists at really treating those kind of movies like that. >> i want to read you some great quotes. you recognize these because you put them on your own website. i found this fantastic because there's such a varied weird collection of sayings and quotes. this one i love. after ecstasy, there's the laundry. did you get a laundry moment after the oscars? >> yeah, yeah, that's part of life. yeah. >> i love this one -- he who mounts a wild elephant goes where the wild elephant goes. you mounted many wild elephants? >> yeah. on one right now. yes. >> do you feel like life's about mounting wild elephants, it's about taking risks? >> it can be. it can be.

risk taking is a wonderful thing. you don't want to just take it just for that sake of that. i mean that can get you in trouble, you know, too. >> what's been the biggest gamble do you think you've taken with your career? >> with my career. when you first said it before you said the career i was going to say marriage. i was deathly afraid of getting married. >> why were you? because clearly you're very good at it. >> i said you made a little bit of the quote there about the death thing which drives my wife crazy when i say it. but my theory is that if death is the -- kind of the end of the story, like the last chapter in the story, that marriage is a giant step in that direction -- >> towards death. >> towards death. >> no wonder your wife -- >> because this is the woman for the rest -- all the other women -- no, no. this is the one. the fear of marriage, there's more of a fear of death. it's finding -- >> yeah, like that.

now give me back the movies. what was the question? >> professional, the biggest gamble professionally. >> well, in a funny way, we kind of touched on it earlier, "crazy heart," it was tailor-made. the director, scott cooper, was -- he wrote it with me in mind. t-bone, all these things. it is like, yeah -- >> filling your own expectations? >> yeah, yeah, that's the big thing. >> because as a musician yourself you don't want to be seen as a poor performer. >> yeah, yeah. this is what i care about and please, let me do this well. you know. yeah. >> we're going to have another break, come back and talk to you about music, the other great passion in your life and about your crazy music heart. just throbs away. [ mom ] scooter? your father loves

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>> that was a song "what a little bit of love can do" from your first album due out august 16th. tell me about your music. i know you love it and you are obviously incredibly good at it. tell me about the passion. where does it come from, the musical passion? >> where does it come from. bo, my big brother, is eight years older than i am. my early memories are chuck barry and little richard and bud -- buddy holly and those guys. then picking up -- i remember he had a white electro guitar that i coveted and ultimately stole for him. >> if i could say you're going to win a grammy for best album that's coming out, but the deal is i take away the oscar, would you take the deal? >> no. >> you can't have both. >> you know why?

i dig the statue, that statue. >> where do you keep it? >> it's sitting on -- between our kitchen and our dining room. >> how often do you look at it or caress it? >> every time i go by, check it out a little bit. it's got a great weight to it. it's a beautiful statue. >> they're heavy, aren't they. >> yeah, it is a beautiful thing. >> so you wouldn't swap them? >> no, i don't think swapping. no. >> are you nervous about critical reaction to the album? >> i'm kind of hopeful. i want people to like it just like movies you do, you do a movie, want people to enjoy it. you know. but it is pretty much a done deal as far as that goes for me because i dig the album. bone digs it. my wife digs it. johnny goodwin, a guy who wrote a lot of the songs, one of my best and oldest friends dig it. that's about it. >> are you proud of it? >> oh, yeah. >> is it what you hoped it would

be? >> oh, man. it was like the thing i told you about the movies exceeding all the expectations. that's what it did for me. the musicians that t-bone assembled. my god, they were just so remarkable. >> i want to read you another quote from your quotes list. germane greer. you're only young once but you can be immature forever. is there a little streak of immaturity still in jeff bridges or have you properly grown up now, you think? >> i don't think you ever do. i think there's always -- you know, haven't turned out the light yet. >> you were quite a party boy in your time, aren't you? >> yeah -- no, not as bad as some, or good, whatever you want to say. you know -- >> do you miss those days? >> i just had one a few days ago. i had all the guys up in montana. we jammed. you know. yeah. got a little drunk. it was pretty cool. >> what's being alive mean to you.

>> it's riding the elephant, taking the risk. a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about, intimacy. you know. getting high. you know. >> the one thing you are brilliant at in movies is getting drunk. and so when we come back after this break i want to talk to you about your skill at portraying drunks, and where you got it from. because there's been a lot of practice. clearly.

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in your life? where do you get this masterful portrayal of drunks? >> i've done -- i've had -- you know, i've been puke drunk before, you know, few times. >> when was the last time -- >> that i've been puke drunk? >> yes. >> oh, i would say 20 years ago, something like that. you know. long time ago. >> you just hold it better these days. >> yeah -- no, i don't like getting hung over. it's just a terrible thing. i made the mistake early in my career of saying, oh, i've got a drunk scene. well i'll just get drunk. that seems to be the easiest way to approach that. so i made that mistake. i remember it was a movie with sally field and it was a scene to get drunk. so i made myself screwdrivers early in the morning. you know. 6:00 in the morning for my scene at 9:00 and i danced my ass off! brilliant scene. but then there was the next

scene and the next scene and the morning after. you know. so i never made that mistake ever again. i learned my lesson. and now i simply use something us actors calls sense memory. >> what's that? >> well, that is you remember how that was and you recall it and you pretend, you know. >> really. >> yeah. >> sense memory. >> sense memory. occasionally i'll do something like, for rooster, for this guy, i'll take a little wild turkey or something, you know, that helps the other actors, too. they say they smell that stuff coming out. but you don't want to get drunk or high. >> i wondered what the odor was. >> what's that? >> i wondered what that was. >> yeah, exactly. >> who do you think of the greatest living actors right now? if you were casting a dream team for a movie. >> god, there's some good ones. tommy lee's awful good. tommy lee jones. i got to work with him.

he's awful great. meryl streep is awful great. haven't worked with her. love to work with her. got to work with bob duvall. "crazy heart." >> is there a great book you've read or great remake you'd like to be involved with? something that's stirred in your gut for a while? >> generally, i'm not one of those guys who has that -- i got to play lincoln or something like that. there are a couple of things that i can't even really tell you about because i don't want to, you know -- >> jinx it. >> -- jinx it or put anything on -- and i don't even know if it will ever happen. because right along with that same kind of, oh, yeah, that's really unique, that would be a great thing to do, there's another side of me -it's the bushed, side. please, do i got to do that? you know. you know what i mean, please, don't make me have to do that. >> you must have had enough money to say forget this acting

lark, i'm going to go to montana and play the guitar. >> yeah. >> tempted to ever push that button? >> yeah, a bit. i'll be pushing that a little bit. kind of what i did this year, you know? >> did you like it? did you miss the movies? >> no, didn't miss the movies at all, no. one of the cool things about fame and success is that gives you a voice to talk about some of the things that are important to you or help kind of direct the kind of -- the world in the direction that you'd like to see it going. as i was saying earlier, this year, i did my music, which was satisfying personally but i also got to focus attention on ending hunger here in our country. >> hold that thought. exactly what i want to talk to you about after this break. the no kid hungry campaign.

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look around you. one in four kids in the u.s. faces hunger. it's not always easy to see the signs, but in this land of plenty there are kids that don't know where they will get their next meal. >> you're a spokesman for the no kid hungry cam pin. quickly, tell me what it is in its essence. >> it's about ending childhood

hunger here in america and we're doing that by going state by state, working with governors and mayors and, you know, heads of food pantries and so forth, finding out what -- where is the bottleneck because here in america we have enough food, we have programs that we know can end hunger but it's the access to those programs that's really a huge problem. >> is president obama doing the right amount of stuff, do you think? >> he's the guy who really put the whole thing in context when he was campaigning. he said, we're going to end childhood hunger here in america by 2015 and that really got all of the hunger organizations to pay attention. >> it's not going to happen, is it? >> he said -- they said, our president, for the first time, you know, obama, he lived on food stamps, the first president who really knows what that's about, and he said the hunger organizations said we're going

get behind this guy and this is what we have to do, mr. president. and they started to really, you know, list these things. and what you just said, it's not really going to happen, that's kind of what i thought, 2015, i think he kind of -- i think he went off a little bit half-cocked because the hunger organizations were going for more, you know, 2020, but the fact that he said that, it set a goal. goals are interesting. you know, it's like when kennedy said, in ten years we're going to put a guy on the moon and all of a sudden arguments about what fuel and the shape should be, they all of a sudden now the context is changed, the arguments are helping each other. we're going to figure out, i want to know why you don't think this is going to work. so you know, goals are interesting that way. they're kind of inspiring, you know? >> what goals do you have left?

>> to end childhood hunger in america is a big -- is a big goal in mine. that's maybe -- that could be my only goal, i mean, as we sit here right now. i can't think of anything that i really want to do more than that. >> take one of the great -- >> what's that. >> you taped a great box, you became a grandfather. >> oh, man. >> one of your three daughters gave you a grandchild. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> how did that make you feel? >> grace, so wild. she had the baby on bathroom floor, can you imagine? she called us up 6:00 in the morning say i think my water's broken but get to the hospital, no, i think we're just going to, you know, with dula that we have, no, we don't have to do that. when they go to the hospital when the water breaks they want to pitch you -- pitosini right way, the baby can get -- oh is that -- look at that. that's grace, my gosh. >> the dude.

granddaughter of the dude. >> isabel -- i may be called dude-pa. isabel -- she was in such great shape mentally, she meditates twice a day, yoga and everything. i said, did it hurt, you know? she goes, it it was an intense sensation, but, no, i can't say it was painful. very wild. >> your daughters, i mean, do they feel particularly blessed to have the dude as their dad? >> oh, i don't know. maybe. i think so. we tell each other we love each other all the time. i think they mean it. i think so. i think so. but you know, it's a funny thing, it's when all you know. i felt that about my own folks. i just want to say one thing before i know our time is running short, i just wanted to say anybody out there who needs food, needs access to food or knows anyone who needs access to food, but you can go to