tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN January 11, 2012 11:00pm-12:00am EST
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is it seduction, exuberance or disgust? >> oh, seduction. >> excellent. you both get points. >> and to the makers of shake weight, i'm betting you knew all along you'd get the last laugh on the ridiculist. >> mitt romney wins big, but there is no time to rest in this one. can he make south carolina a trifecta? the fourth murder ner two years. is america behind it? it appears to be american marines urinating on dead bodies lechlt's go out front. good evening, everyone. out front tonight, breaking news. we have very disturbing video of what appears to be u.s. marines
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urinating on dead bodies. now, the video is so disturbing we're not going to air it in full. this is a snapshot. as you can see, it shows four men urinating on three dead bodies, which are sprawled out in front of them. now, we have pixlated and blurred their genitalia. it's a 40 second video and it surfaced online today and in it, one man says, "have a great day, buddy." and a third is heard, "checking to see whether all of this was caught on camera." now, it's unclear who shot or posted this video. and, frankly, it's also unclear who the people pictured in it were or where it was shot. the pentagon correspondent is on the story. barbara, it was amazing when this happened very late this afternoon. it was disturbing and hard to watch. let me hear what the reaction is from the pentagon and, also,
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what you can tell us about its authenticity. >> well, erin, good evening. a senior pentagon official came out and said it. he called the video disgusting. so now what is happening is the marine corps is launching an investigation. they want to nail this down as fast as they can. who are these people in the vid video? are they in fact marines? where were they serving? what transpired here? and can they bring charges against these people? this is desecration of dead bodies in a war zone. are there charges to be brought? is there legal action to be taken under the military justice season. system. >> and, barbara, what can you tell us about who those people are or where they are? >> there are plenty of clues. and they may be able to give focus on this very, very quickly. senior marine, i spoke to this evening, said just look at that picture. you see those marines carrying sniper rifles. you see them with very specific
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helmets on that are very particular to marine sniper teams. shorter front, shorter side so the marines can hold their sniper rifles and their scopes right up to their faces when they take a shot. marine sniper teams usually travel in a six-man unit in very isolated areas. that may be how this happened. they are very aware of what sniper teams were out there in the past few months, where they were, mainly in afghanistan, of course. and they are going to be talking to them and trying to pin this down as fast as they can, erin. >> all right, thank you very much, barbara star. sniper teams some of the most highly specialized, trained and highly talented people out in the field. our national security contributor here former commander u.s. army intelligence center. general marx, let me start with you. what's your reaction when you see this? are you shocked when this sort of thing happens? or is this something that is as awful it is that it happens and
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shocked that they video taped it? >> this is absolutely outside the bounds of anything that's trained or is acceptable. and these young men know that. and i can't explain their behavior. and i need to tell you the marine corps will jump all over this. they'll investigate this and there will be some -- there will be some accountability that will come from this. >> fran, let me ask you, i know, obviously, you were advising in the bush administration when the pictures started coming out. those started in a trickle and then became something more. does this, to you, feel like an isolated event? >> look, babsed on what we know at the moment, it does look like an isolated event. but what you have to understand and what gets lost to people around the world when they see this picture is that this is contrary to u.s. policy. it's illegal. it's against the uniform code of military justice and that's why there will be an accountability review. it gets a life of its own. it's used by the taliban to
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recruit and train. it has consequences that go on far beyond just this story. >> general marx, i mean, what is your view on its implications will be as fran said on funding? on recruitment? it is a horrible travesty. >> it's horrendous. it's agreejous. to answer your question, it has everything to do with recruiting of our enemies, as fran indicated. it has less to do with the marine corps or our department of defense in terms of bringing great young men and women on board. i'm not concerned about that. sadly, behavior like this often occurs. it's really very aberrant. and this is is a digital form of scalping. it should not have occurred. and i know that chain of command is going to figure out why. >> do you know that there will be strikes at u.s. soldiers? that people could lose their lives because of this? do you think it will happen?
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and, fran, jump in and let me know whether you think that actually did happen? >> if i may, we don't know -- this was posted recently. we don't know when this occurred. >> now it's being seen. >> it's completely time now. it's immediate. so there may be some direct results. i would doubt that. what this has to do is exactly what fran talked about it. it's a blook eye for the united states and our alliance and friends in afghanistan. >> you run the risk that our enemies will use this sort of a video as a justification for mistreating u.s. soldiers who are captured or killed. so will it have that effect? yes. >> general marx, how high do you think this sort of thing goes? we were just hearing from barbara star that these are elite, highly trained guys. they go in groups of six, as she were reporting, in the marines. how high could this go? could laughing about this,
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seeing, this knowing about this? >> it doesn't go beyond this team. absolutely. everybody in this team's chain of command, they're no longer elite. these guys are outside the norm. this really makes you upset. and everybody in this team's chain of command right now are trying to figure out why these guys, guys that we trusted. marines that we put in incredible positions. trained them immensely and they do this? everybody in that chain of command right now is trying to figure out what broke down? >> how does this happen? i mean, this happened and it was shocking and it was known to be totally inapropropriate then. and, yet, it happens. >> up until the point that we saw that video, we have no clue. i'm not justifying the action. we have no clue what these young men had gone through up tun till that very moment. but they are trained that once their job is done, they get very
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agnostic, they get very focused and they do what they have to do to respect and honor those that they just killed. they may have slaughtered those guys and that's fine. you don't do what we just saw. >> erin, the point here is, look, given how trained they were and what their mission was, it is entirely possible that they went through a horrendous fire fight and saw their teammates or others wounded or killed. and that, as general marx says, that doesn't justify -- nothing justifies the behavior in that video. but you have to understand that in the heat of the moment and the adrenaline pumping, you need to understand that so you can prevent it in the future. that's why you do the review. >> thanks very much to both of you. we'll continue to update you as we figure out the providence of that video. well, newt admits he crossed the line. the man who called mitt romney a vulture follows suit. and the fourth scientist murdered in two years. who's behind it? iran says america.
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>> they're vultures, they're sitting out there on the tree limb waiting for the company to get sick and then they swoop in. they eat the car kus. they leave with that and they leave the skeleton. >> the front-runner shot back saying it shows just how des prate his rivals are. >> but you saw last night that that approach didn't work well for either rick perry or newt gingrich and so we'll take it to the next level. they'll find new attacks and i think in the final analysis, people want someone who can lead the country back to strength with good jobs and rising incomes and all these attacks i think will fall flat as they did last night. zpl all right. the question is, is an attack on bain capital an attack on free markets and america's entrepreneur cal culture? steve forbes, kevin madden,
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romney's former adviser. a good pairing tonight. let me start with you, steve. gingrich was asked today by a santorum supporter about the attack on mitt romney and the supporter was saying hey, go after romney for other things, not this. gingrich seemed to agree, said quote obama just makes it impossible to talk rationally because he's so deeply into class warfare. i agree entirely. it seems like gingrich is backing off romney. should rick perry? >> i think it's first of all, i think you have to make a distinction between equity capital and funds in general. they perform a real service. a few of the companies where they took out dividends, huge management fees then the company went broke. they had a good record long-term, but he should answer those questions. that's legitimate. i think what you're going to see unfold in south carolina and
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florida is we are going to get real issues with mr. romney. one is does he have a good radical tax proposal to put on the table, which rick does and others have. he has not done that yet. he's also got to get around this thing of mandates for health care and if he says something good on the dollar, he'll be stronger. he's got to get real proposals on the table, on taxes, on health care, so that people feel he can lead the party. >> for those who don't though this, obviously, steve forbes, the original flat tax. but when rick perry goes into great detail about vultures out on limbs and swooping in and taking over companies, i mean, i know you're laughing here, but does that frustrate you a little bit as a guy who sees this as goes, gosh, i wish my candidate weren't talking like that? >> no, it's colorful rhetoric
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and it makes a comment that romney has to answer about those handful of companies where they did take out management fees and the company went bust. so if he doesn't deal with it now, he's going to have to deal with it under more adverse companies in the fall. >> which companies? >> i don't. but i know there are two or three where they did take out -- the journal referred to them -- >> the journal's story on monday. kevin madden, what's your response to that? that steve forbes is saying, look, there are some that did not and mitt romney needs to answer those questions. >> i think in every instance, private equity groups like bane capital, they try to make an investment and then they try to make profit. they try to make an investment to make a company grow. oftentimes, they take on companies that are underperforming and they try to bring potential out of them. i think that's the genesis of every single investment that you're seeing from bain and
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others in that private equity world. i think it's pretty appalling, though, the language that you hear from rick perry, the language that you hear from newt gingrich, which actually echoes that of the very far left. folks like michael moore and moveon.org who are trying to attack free enterprise and attack economic freedoms. we are not surprised at these sort of arguments would come up during this presidential campaign. we fully expect that these on the left and president obama are going to try to offer up these extortions about free enterprise. what we find surprising is that it would come from fellow republicans. people who are supposed to defend free enterprise. >> it is interesting. joe biden was on the same side as rick perry, steve. >> well, i think the wall street journal, for example, had a very good editorial this morning, actually defending myth romney and having equity funds. but they also did raise the question he must answer questions about those handfuls of situations, where they went
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in the company that was weak and prematurely took out dividends and excess management fees. so answering those questions are very legitimate. and better to get that out of the way now than in the fall. no one is arguing against the concept of having equity funds going in with companies that are weak, trying to strengthen them up, trying to turn them around. but where they overdid it, took out dividends prematurely hence the question, very simple. >> yeah, i just, real quickly, i think the reason that rick perry is floundering in the polls is that he is -- he's totally focused on governor romney and criticizing governor romney and attacking free enterprise. he's not talking about the future. he's not talking about what he would do as president. the reason governor romney is doing so well, the reason he won in iowa, the reason he won in new hampshire is because he's focused on putting the american people back to work and telling the american people who he would do for the future. >> kevin, let's set the record straight. rick perry has talked about the
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flat tax, has talked about excess regulation, $1.7 trillion a year. and in terms of your own candidate, when is he going to put on the table a real radical tax simplification program? he's hinted at it in the past, but he hasn't put anything on the table. he's also told the wall street journal that he's open minded to a v.a.t. a value added tax. >> if you look at this last week, mr. forbes, rick perry has done nothing but talk about what he would do to attack free enterprise. he's done nothing but talk about what he would do -- >> kevin, answer me question. >> and if you look at governor romney's program, he's had very comprehensive terms about what he would do to make taxes lower. to make taxes flatter. how he would reduce and reform the american tax rate so american companies can create jobs across the country. he's talking about the economic future of this kwoun tri.
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and what rick perry is engaged in is attacking free market capitalism. i think we are in a wonderful position right now to win the party, unite conservatives who are absolutely filleting rick perry and newt gingrich. filleting them. attack the fundamentals of free market enterprise. >> kevin, you're not going to get real unification unless your guy puts on the table a genuine, radical tax simplification program. he's hinted at it. he hinted at it a couple of days ago on another show, but he hasn't put it on the table. and he must repudiate the idea of a v.a.t. and why did he put that in individual mandate in massachusetts on health care. >> if rick perry does end up leaving the race, would you back mitt romney? >> i'll look at the field again and if mr. romney's got a good flat tax proposal on the table, i'll be very receptive. >> and, kevin, do you think mitt romney will come up with a further specific tax plan?
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>> i think a great part of the great republican debate will be more details coming out about what governor romney would do to lower taxes, make them flatter, put the economy back on track. and then we'll be very welcome to have mr. forbes' endorsement. >> all right. >> and i'll welcome you to rick perry's victory party. >> all right, gentlemen, thanks. good to see you both. >> great to be with you both. >> all right. well, myth romney has won in iowa, he's won in new hampshire. but can he do it in south carolina? we've got an insider in south carolina, top of the g.o.p. says it's anyone's game right now. how much is a nickel really worth these days? this number is sure to surprise you. out front next. this is an rc robotic claw.
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so last night, one of our producers went to 7 eleven and he got a wheat penny. he found it's worth more than $2.50. one of our other producers went to the snack machine in our office and got back a 1920 nickel. it's actually worth $6, which is good, but nowhere near as amazing as the $1.3 million a bidder paid for a penny at a florida auction this week.
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the copper coin was minted in philadelphia in 1793, the first year the u.s. made its own coins. just goes to show you how much the money in your pocket might be worth. which brings us to tonight's number. 20 million. that's how many nickels at -- why do you want to store so many nickels and according to bass, the value as scrap metal exceeded the five cent face value and collecting a million dollars in nickels is a good investment. the price of nickel rose 20% last year. which is good news for bass, but not his banks. bad for the government. it now cost 11 cents to make a nickel. maybe it is cheaper to borrow money from china than to print it. ben bernanke.
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still, the outfront five. not so fast. >> we're asking the good people of south carolina to join the citizens of new hampshire and make 2012 the year he runs out of time. >> casey anthony unsealed. >> you will hear ugly things. secret things. secret things. all this in our second half. thanks! you noticed! younow these clothes are too big now, so i'm donating them. not going back there again. good for you! how'd you do it? eating right, whole grain. whole grain? whole grain. [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't... multigrain cheerios has five whole grains and 110 lightly sweetened calories per serving... more grains. less you! multigrain cheerios.
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we start the second half with stories we care about, what we focus in our reporting, do the work and find the outfront five. first, the u.s. marine corp. launching an investigation into a video posted on the web that appears to show marines urinating on corps. they are a lot of clues that will help track down the men. she said the marine corp. is looking into whether possible action can be taben. she was talking about how the groups of snipers travel in groups of six. number two, food and drug administration is now detaining and testing all orange juice
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imports. the fda said they've received results. the fda is starting to test after an unnamed juice company contacted them after finding low levels of carbendozine. it's not approved in the u.s., but is in brazil. ford is recalling 450,000 mini vans and suvs. this is to fix defects that could cause fires. the vehicles are 2001 and 2002 escape and mercury and montery mini vans. number four, federal reserve released its beige book today. what it boils down to is this. it's a study of regional economies across the country. we find some good news. there was a big bump in holiday
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sales compare today a year ago, but it does show slow to moderate gains in hiring, salary increases and a flat housing market. it has been 159 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. every night i ask, what are we doing to get it back. last night, mitt romney promised he's help. here he is. >> he raised the national debt. i will cut, cap and balance the federal budget. he lost our triple-a credit rating. i'll restore it. >> all right. we don't know now he's going to restore it, i liked hearing triple-a credit come up, but the question would be how. listen to some of his opponents in south carolina today. >> the idea that he's after a republican nomination because he
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won by eight votes in iowa and he won his home state, it's just silly. >> i really don't think that a moderate's going to do a very good job debating obama. i think the contrast won't be clear enough, the issues won't be clear enough and it will be a jumble. >> meanwhile, mitt romney is keeping his focus on the president. >> this has been a failed presidency. i don't think he's tried to make it bad. he just didn't know what to do. he's over his head. >> south carolina has picked every republican nominee since it had a formal primary in 1980. chad connolly knows the state better than anyone. good to see you, sir. appreciate it. >> how you doing tonight? >> i'm doing well. and you have the exciting race that everybody's watching like a bunch of hawks, so you tell me who really is the front-runner. polls show it to be mitt romney, but now, they're all just showing up in the state. what do you think?
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>> i've watched this thing a long time and there's no question that governor romney has some big head speed coming in here. he's got a lot of momentum, but i'll tell you, this thing's wide open. for all these years i've watched this process, it's amazed me to look at the polls two weeks out or ten days out and see the dynamics and changes. so this is not over. and if you look at the ground games of some of the other campaigns, this thing is still wide open in my view. >> what role will religion play? i know it's the stereotype. 60% of voters are evangelicals. two catholics running. two mormons running. how important is religion? >> well, it's always an important issue here. our social conservatives make up a big part of our vote. there's no doubt about it. but i do think right now, more care about jobs and the economy and the situation we're in that president obama has given us in these last three years.
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>> who's got the crowd momentum? >> i did get to go by governor romney event before i came to the studio and there were hundreds of people there, but on sunday afternoon, i know that speaker gingrich had a good crowd. that senator santorum had several hundred people at a chief's wings place on sunday afternoon in spartanburg. like five or 600 people came out. i know those campaigns have done a good job working the grass roots and getting people engage. >> the wings made me feel a little hungry. it's been a long day. you made my stomach start growling. >> have a good night. >> careful to stay positive about the candidates. with the focus on south carolina and mitt romney, let's not lose sight of the fact of something he did not mention and this person is really important. ron paul. he came in second in new hampshire after a strong third
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in iowa and listen to what he told dana bash last night. >> are you going to have a buffer between mitt romney and the rest of the republican candidates? >> i don't know what you want to call it, but i know we're next in line to him, so i would say that we're the only ones really in the race with him. >> and then later on in the night, they were talking about two men, two man national race. this is ron paul's third run for president. every time, he's had the same message. this man is consistent. this time around, it is resognating with more republicans than before. he's getting more votes and a lot of passion, a lot of young people. in 2008 -- last night, he got 23. it's clear ron paul inspires passion and pulls serious
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numbers. john is a cnn contributor. jamal, a democratic strategist, ryan, a columnist for the daily. john, ron paul is serious. for a lot of reasons because he's got serious numbers, but also because i don't get the feeling from talking to his supporters in new hampshire that they're eager to, if he doesn't win, jump on a band wagon of who does. >> in an election year, there's been a lot of musical chairs. ron paul supporters are steady, consistent. they are committed. they see their candidate making the same case. the four years ago talking about the fed and noninterventionist approach to foreign policy, that was courageous, unpopular, but to some, it's been vindicate d. are any of the others able to make a case to libertarians? those young voters rallying around ron paul or is this deeper inside the republican party? >> it is also, ron paul said it's been 116, if anyone from his campaign is watching. 163 or 169 times he's been asked would you run as a third party and he said he said no. but it doesn't come off completely firmly and if he did,
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that would seem to be good for barack obama. >> there's a clear reason why he might not and that's his son, rand paul. the senator from kentucky who may be a viable contender for a future republican nomination. when you think about how this guy has been steadily working, he first ran in 1988. this could be a culmination of that strategy. he's not throwing wild punches at mitt romney, which is also -- indeed. >> last night, we had a focus group at cnn south carolina. they were watching the new hampshire run returns. one man said he was undecided. i am skeptical. because at the end of the night, he said my vote's for ron paul, then he was asked what happens if not ron paul, then, i'm out, not voting for anybody. barack obama. do you think if ron paul does
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eventually get out of this race that some of those votes could go to barack obama? >> i don't know. i don't think so. what i believe is happening right here is that young people who are voting for barack obama or are possibly voting for barack obama are not particip e participating in these primaries. >> jamal, don't turn down that guy's vote. >> i'm not turning it down. he can come on other. so what happens is they don't get ron paul, they'll find somebody else in a third party and vote for them. they want to turn the apple cart over. but what's interesting about ron paul to me, you know, i used to think this race was a lot like 2004 with john kerry. and i'm thinking now it may have some parallels to 1988 with michael dukakas and jesse jackson. ron paul may be the jesse jackson man where he becomes the choice where romney is going to go ahead and be the nominee anyway.
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let me just vote for somebody else. >> does it cost him the general election? >> if ron paul ran as a third party candidate, most of those votes would come out of the republican side. that's splitting the anti-obama vote. right now, a lot of people are fast forwarding to the general election. they're buying the romney camp's line that it's a romney-obama race. not so fast. take a deep breath, folks. we are two primary sboos a long process where they've got to get to 1143 to get to this nomination. let's give the voters of south carolina, florida and everyone else their chance. this is what we've been looking forward to. let's take a deep breath and appreciate the election. >> what does mitt romney do to win over some ron paul supporter sns they just seem to love ron pauls -- frankly, the things he says are the things that would never be adopted by someone
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mainstream in the republican party. like get rid of the fed. >> he doesn't feel threatened by him. you're talking about a very small number of people in a small number of states. and i think that ultimately, romney is going to get a lot of older folk ins that movement. >> thanks very much to all three of you. coming up in tonight's outer circle, pakistan, four militants kill nd the first drone attack since november. and the latest with the casey anthony case. we've learned something today with all of the media wall-to-wall coverage something about her own father sexually abusing her now dead daughter, caylee. g relief. from the brand doctors recommend most by name. preparation h totables. the anywhere preparation h.
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will be giving away passafree copies of the alcoholism & addiction cure. to get yours, go to ssagesmalibubook.com. we do this at the same time every night. our outer circle, where we reach out to sources around the world. tonight, we begin in pakistan where four suspected militants were killed by american drones. it was the first strike since 24 soldiers were killed in november. we asked robert hathaway what this possibly will mean for already damaged america-pakistani relations. >> it will probably make the relationship even worse, but i don't think i'd put too much weight on that. first of all, because the relationship is already so bad
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that it cannot get much worse without collapsing and noert party wants that. secondly, because drone strikes are an old story so i don't think the resumption of the strikes after less than two months is likely to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. >> and now to peru, joran van der sloot, a suspect in the disappearance of u.s. teen natalee holloway in aruba, pleaded guilty today to the murder of a a peruvian woman. he will be sentenced friday. we asked cole thompson if he was surprised about this. >> i was a bit surprised that he pled guilty today because he's a liar, a manipulator, a gambler. i thought he'd want to throw a monkey wrench into the system and possibly victimize the families even more. >> the question heard around the world today. who is killing nuclear
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scientists in iran? the latest victim is a scientist who was blown up in his car this morning. he was a top official at the uranium enrichment plant and the fourth such victim in two years. iran is pointing the finger at israel and the united states. >> i want to categorically deny any united states involvement in any kind of act of violence inside iran. >> so, who is targeting these scientists? we asked peter brooks, a national security expert. here's what he said. >> my sense it's probably somebody from the region, maybe israel, maybe an arab state. both these groups of people do not want to see iran achieve nuclear weapon state hood. another possibility, iranian themselves that see this regime as the enemy of the people and
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certainly want to see iran achieve nuclear weapon state hood while they have a possibility of preventing it. >> killing key personnel will not stop them from developing nuclear weapons. we're going to stay out front of this story. this is one of the top issues in the american political election. she was the best liar i've ever seen. >> shocking new details in the casey anthony case tonight. a judge unsealed two depositions if the doctors who performed psychological evaluations of the florida mother. anthony was acquitted last july of killing her 2-year-old daughter, caylee, but in the documents today, casey anthony described seeing her father, george anthony, holing a soaking wet caylee, then says quote, i
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think he held her under water, maybe he was doing something to her an he tried to cover it up. this something is the first we've heard of allegations that casey anthony's father sexually abused her daughter, caylee. some allegations that george abused casey were never sub stanuated. his attorney issued a statement saying quote, he never molested any member of his family, including casey anthony and had nothing to do with the death of caylee marie anthony, including what happened to her remains after she allegedly drowned. >> and it's good to have you with us, tonight, sir. let me just ask you what you learned today in these documents. not only did we see for the first time these allegations of abuse of casey's daughter, caylee, but we also learned that
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perhaps she became pregnant due to date rape at a party. there were a lot of details in here that we hadn't seen before. >> you know, erin, this is casey anthony at her best, again. she makes up allegations that are unsubstantiated by anybody but herself. and as far as the sexual allegations go, involving caylee, these have never been brought up. not even court by her own lawyer. >> and i should point out that the defense team, that defended the trial, did not use any of the doctors who evaluated casey in these depositions. we did not hear about the trial of the allegations of abuse of caylee. why not? >> probably two good reasons. number one is the state attorney ins this case very experienced. on their cross-examination of the defense psychiatrist, they would certainly have brought out all of her inconsistencies. number two is the state would have been allowed to present
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their own psychiatric evaluations and their own witness which i'm sure would have been a devastating blow to casey's case. >> do you think that there could be anything to what she's saying? i know you spent a lot of time with their parents. but do you think there could be any interest to her story. >> absolutely not. erin. absolutely one hundred percent not. george anthony is a good man. there was no evidence of sexual abuse in that family what so ever at any time for anybody other than casey. for her to make that claim in detail in these -- in these evaluations that the psychiatrist did and then, for the defense not to use them, i think, says a lot about the defense's own doubt as to her credibility and her statements. >> have you seen any of the video diary that she's made? we show that to our viewers and viewers, we've shown a little bit of that replaying.
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she looks very different now with the short, blond hair. have you, sir, seen that diary? and what's your impression? >> yes, erin, i have. and, again, casey antny's statements are always self serving. they're always out to protect her and typically, tray portray her as poor me, poor casey, i'm the victim. nobody else. >> well, thank you very much, sir. we appreciate your being with us tonight. >> my pleasure, erin, thank you. all right, there are two catholics and there are two mormons left in the gop field. does their faith matter? this's next. [ monica ] i'm away on a movie shoot
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>> today on my way back to new york from atlanta, i saw one of the now ubiquitous mormon org ads. you've probably seen these around. they're everywhere. and they all lead you to mormon.org. the church of latter day saints' official web site where you can learn all about the life and faith of mormons, just like rich here. he's just one of the people we clicked on. currently, the second fastest growing religion in the united states. the church of latter day saints has been going all out to win america over. and, now, with mitt romney as the front runner in the gop field, i stop today consider what they've accomplished since the last time he ran four years ago. in 2008, hbo's polygamy drama
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"big love" was on the air. this time around, we've another mormon hit, the broadway musical "book of mormon." and even though the forum reports that about a quarter of americans still have a negative opinion of the mormon faith, it seems like we've come a long way. we have two catholics and two mormons running in the gop field. wow, that's a field that would have been unrecognizable when this man ran for president. >> my judgment is that an american who is a catholic, who is as sensitive as a catholic must be who seek this is high office has exposed to the pressures which swirl around us that he will be extremely diligent in his protection of the constitution of separation. >> john f. kennedy didn't think his religion should have anything to do with whether he could lead. when he was elected, america overcame a huge hurdle. think about three and a half years ago when mitt romney was still trying to overcome stereotypes about mormonism,
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america overcame another hurdle with race. >> my general attitude is that whether you're white, black, hispanic, asian, whatever demographic you come from, we all have a stake in making sure that we don't have young people who are shooting each other on the streets. if i'm talking about those issues in general terms, then i hope that i'm not just appealing to the african american vote when i say something like that. >> however you feel about their politics, the increasing diversity, whether it be of race or religion, is something to celebrate. we've come a long way since j.f.k. we were looking at tapes today when all kinds of people were asking him questions about what the pope said about this, what the pope said about that. hopefully, we' continue to move ahead because america is still a beacon from freedom and tolerance. it's been interesting the past few days looking at those exit polls and how evangelicals are voting for catholics and for mormons and faith and family matter, but religion, different than it used to be.
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