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were portrayed running with forest gump because that's what people do even if they don't know why. as a black man who has voted democratic, makes less than $30,000 a year, i can say firsthand that newt gingrich is right. people have grown dependent on the government rather than taking care of themselves. tyler, he's a politician. he's explaining a reality in such a way that appeals to a certain demographic. he's picking and choosing what he talks about. from gilbert, a good old country boy. from car rkaren, he's a piece o work. thank you so much. facebook.com/carolcnn if you'd like to continue the conversation. let's continue the cnn "newsroom" with randi kaye. >> hello, it's 1:00. two short days before the make
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or break south carolina primary. one gop hopeful is out. governor rick perry who dominated the field so briefly last summer called it a race. >> good morning, i have come to the conclusion that there is no more viable path for me in this campaign. therefore, today i'm suspending my campaign and endorsing newt gingrich for president of the united states. >> our latest polls shows gingrich gaining on romney and perry stuck in fifth with single digits. santorum is running third but today he's officially the winner of the iowa caucuses. 16 days ago, you'll recall romney was on top with eight votes but the final results show santorum actually won by a total of 34 votes. it's basically a toss-up because eight votes are still missing. four republican candidates will meet tonight and wolf blitzer
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has just sat down with rick santorum. hi there, wolf. tell me this. does santorum think that the flip-flop in iowa changes anything for him? >> well, he's encouraged by it. he's obviously frustrated that he couldn't declare that he was the winner of the iowa caucuses. he thinks he would have gotten more momentum going into new hampshire and now south carolina. he's very happy. he says, look, he won one of these contests, something that newt gingrich has not done. he's going out to florida and irrespective of how he does. let me play you a clip. when i asked them to react to the news that he actually has been declared the winner in iowa. >> i don't blame iowa. they had to go through the process that actually if you think about it, moved from eight
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votes to 34, usually an election that kind of changes insignificant. so i don't -- the state of iowa did -- the republican party of iowa did a good job, very happy that they got 99.9% of the polling places and we not only won but pulled off a huge upset. >> he's also encouraged, randi, by these endorsements that he's been getting over the weekend by these evangelical leaders. he also thinks despite the fact that rick perry dropped out and endorsed newt gingrich, he thinks that some of the rick perry supporters, there were not a lot of them, he was polling in the low single digits, some of them will go to him as opposed to newt gingrich. this race, bottom line, in south carolina is really heating up.
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four candidates left. let's not forget ron paul. it's going to be a lively debate and it's going to be a fascinating primary on saturday. >> yeah. wolf, let's talk about rick perry and his endorsement of newt gingrich. how much do you think that is worth to newt gingrich? >> i think that's going to help newt gingrich. newt gingrich not only wanted rick perry to drop out, he'd like santorum to drop out. when i asked santorum about that, he thought that was the height of arrogance and got visibly angry that newt gingrich would even raise that possibility the fact that he did better than gingrich in new hampshire. but i think it will help wind up helping gingrich a bit if it's a really close race and the polls show it's tightening over these past few days. if it's close between gingrich and romney as the polls seem to suggest, whatever amount of support that rick perry is dropping out would presumably help. so i think it could help him marginally if it's a very close contest and all of the indications are that it will be.
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>> nothing like having a candidate drop out hours before the cnn debate. i understand some changes are being made there on the stage in south carolina. in fact, we have a picture. wolf, i'm sure you can see it there, one podium down. >> yeah, four podiums and now there are four. there used to be six. subjects m huntsman dropped out earlier in the week. michele bachmann moderated two of these republican debates, one in tampa and one in washington. there were eight candidates. now there are four. we'll see what happens in the coming days. >> wolf blitzer there for us in south carolina. wolf, thank you. be sure to catch wolf's full interview with rick santorum. you can watch it today at 4:00 p.m. on cnn. the gop contenders sound off at the presidential debate right here on cnn at 8:00 eastern. just two days before the
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south carolina primary, a potentially damaging interview with newt gingrich's second wife is scheduled to air on abc tonight. in an excerpt, she says that her husband said that he wanted an open marriage. >> i said to him, newt, we've been married a long time and he said, yes, but you want me all to yourself. calista doesn't care what i do. >> what do you think that meant? >> he wanted me to have an open marriage, and i refused. that i accept the fact that he has somebody else in his life. >> and you said -- -- >> no. no. that is not a marriage. >> marianne gingrich was referring to gingrich's current wife callista. his campaign released a memo
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from his two daughters from the first marriage. they say their father isn't talking about the past but about who can defeat president obama. more evidence the job market is getting stronger. first time jobless benefits fell sharply last week, the lowest level in nearly four years. 352,000 people filed for benefits since april 2008. weekly jobless claims below 400,000 taken as an indication that hiring is strong enough to push down the jobless rate. if you're watching us from disney world, you're very much aware of president obama's wh e whereabouts. mr. obama said the plan will create more than 100 million jobs over the next decade. >> i asked them to send me a new national that tourism industry
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focused on creating jobs and some of america's most successful business leaders, some who are here today, have signed up to help. we're going to see how we can make it easier for foreign tourists to find basic information about visiting america. >> on the surface, this wasn't a stump speech but it comes just before cnn's presidential debate tonight and as the candidates gear up to blanket florida with anti-obama ads at the end of the month. italian officials have identified eight of the 11 killed when a cruise ship capsized off the italian coast. these are live pictures. 21 people are still missing. officials are not holding out hope that they will still be alive. they may change the operation from rescue to recovery which will allow recovery teams to start pumping fuel out of the ship. authorities are carrying out toxicology tests on the captain facing possible manslaughter and
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abandoning ship charges. it almost feels like january 3rd all over again. declaring a winner in the iowa caucus except today there's a new winner. rick santorum. so how did everyone get it wrong? we get answers from a man who knows. the chairman of the the republican party. that interview is next. but, first, he was paralyzed in a snowmobile accident and told that he would never walk again. but grant korgan did not let that bring him down. he just completed a trip to the south pole. it took him two weeks and 250,000 pushes but he did it. his trip was sponsored to help raise money for spinal cord injuries. grant korgan, you are today's rock star. [ nadine ] buzzzz, bzzzz, bzzzz, bzzzz,
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welcome back. more than two weeks after we all thought mitt romney won the closest republican presidential race in history, iowa officials say the final certified results minus a few precincts show rick santorum did not finish eight votes behind but actually finished 34 votes ahead. you see the numbers right there. that's out of more than 121,000 votes cast. so the difference mathematically is nill. politically it takes the wind
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out of the sail for romney who supposedly won back to back. >> thank you, new hampshire. tonight we made history. >> so now we give some face time to matt straw. this is getting a lot of attention today but either way this year's caucus is certainly one for the books? >> well, it was, randi, especially when you remember what the process is. these are grassroots organizing their own local precincts. we had 744 precincts that we needed to get results from and then at 2:00 a.m. we made the declaration of the final unofficial results and then 14 days where all of the precincts leaders had to get us the official forms so we could make sure we got a certified vote total. that's what you heard today.
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776 is what we heard from. >> what about this change in the official results? how did we get here? >> sure. very simple. human typographical error. the way the caucus process works, the results are either entered into a secured computer system for a particular precinct or they call into a volunteer call center and really the county whose votes swung the must, fayette county had a volunteer that entered a 54 for mitt romney when it should have been a 4 and entered a 34 when it should have been a 4. obviously when they submitted their official forms, we were able to match them up and realize that we had a discrepancy. as you said, any time you have a race this close, that's why a secured certification process is
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so important. >> and what about the missing precincts? how common is that? >> historically there is anywhere from eight to a dozen precincts that for whatever reason the results never make it to republican head quarters. they phoned in results caucus night but in the due diligence of our staff trying to locate these committee people, we weren't able to get their phones in. the county shares the process, the precinct chairs, give the results to the some that lost them, another gentleman on vacation completely unreachable. but the most important part of the process from our standpoint is making sure that the certified results accurately reflect how they voted the night on january 3rd. >> what do you say to people who
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say look at this and what happened in iowa and maybe they lost faith in the iowa caucuses. what do you want to say to them? >> i don't think you should lose faith in a process run by volunteers and grassroots process. the fact that everything was done transparently, not only do citizens get to watch the votes being counted, you actually don't have a more transparent and open process than in the iowa caucuses. of course, as a republican hopefully eight years from now we'll revisit those things and we can always improve. but for the most part it was an incredible showing not just by volunteers across the state but whether it was senator santorum, governor romney, i don't think it's a coincidence that the only four remaining in the race are the top four finishes in the iowa caucus. i think the relevance is just as strong today as it was on
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january 3rd. >> matt strawn, thank you very much for your time. >> the big political shakeup, rick perry calls it a day and says newt gingrich is the man to beat president obama. will his endorsement have any sway to south carolina voters? up next, i'll talk to the voters who broke the story. peter hamby will speak with us.
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lots of news happening in the cnn "newsroom" today. peter hamby was first to break the news this morning. the texas governor rick perry was dropping out of the race for the republican nomination.
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peter, what do you know about how rick perry came to this decision to leave the race? >> reporter: yeah, it's pretty interesting. if you'll recall, the morning after the iowa caucuses, he said he might go back to texas and reassess his campaign and then he went for this jog and said he's all in for south carolina. i asked what changed between then and now and they didn't see a path forward. the problem for him, though, was that these voters that came out to see him, while they liked his message and liked him personally, just did not think he was viable against president obama. those debates really hurt his perception among republican voters. so his family is supposedly all on board with this decision. perry's going back to texas this weekend. there's no plans right now for him to actually campaign with
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gingrich. that might change after south carolina. south carolina is now a wild card. these last 48 hours have not been good for mitt romney. and now with rick perry getting behind newt gingrich, you could see movement on the conservative side to newt gingrich. we'll have to wait and see. >> let's listen to what rick perry said earlier. >> i have no question that newt gingrich has the heart of a conservative reform, the ability to rally and captivate the conservative movement, the courage to tell those washington interests to take a hike, if that's what is in the best interest of our country. >> why endorse gingrich? and was endorsing rick santorum ever a possibility here, peter? >> reporter: i think what i'm hearing is that rick perry and newt gingrich has a long, friendly relationship, quite frankly. speaker gingrich wrote the introduction to rick perry's book "fed up" that came out last year. they've always spoken kindly
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about each other. sort of these corporate wall street insiders, i can tell you that rick perry and gingrich have a nice relationship and i also know that perry and governor romney do not have a good relationship and one perry source told me earlier today that they just don't think romney is conservative. but perry's not putting all of his capital on the line. if he was going to stay here in south carolina and really campaign hard for gingrich, he might be doing that but he's kind of stepping off the side lines really to see how things shake out over the next few days, randi. >> peter hamby, necessarily done breaking that news that rick perry was dropping out. just a day before the south carolina primary, the gop contenders face off for what could be the final debate. watch the southern republican presidential debate tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. what is unfolding in the hollywood hills is the real
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a bizarre miss spree in hollywood is getting creepier by the day. detectives have found severed hands and feet 50 feet from where the severed head was found. ironically, brad pitt starred in the movie where he received his
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wife's head in a box. commander smith, nice to see you. we hear that brad pitt's bodyguard has been questioned. did he see something unusual related to this case? >> not really. it's standard procedure to have our detectives canvas the entire neighborhood. apparently he lives nearby. we had a squad of detectives going from house to house and he's one of those people that the squad of detect tiffs interviewed. >> how wide of an area do you have investigators on the ground searching? >> we have about 100 investigators, mostly from the los angeles police department. we also have sheriffs, search and rescue, park and rangers. we're searching an area right now that is about seven acres up here in the woods in the area behind me. >> i understand that you found a couple of severed hands. is it possible that you might be able to get fingerprints off those hands still? >> yeah, that's what we're hoping. the first thing we're going to
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try is to get fingerprints. the has are at the coroner's office. it starts to get dried out and they have to pump it up a little bit so the fingertips can get taken from the fingertips. >> do you have any suspects or any clues at this time that is worth anything? >> no, we don't have any suspects. we're going to keep an open mind and try and follow the case to see where the clues lead us. right now we believe that the crime, the murder did not occur up in the 4i8 hill here. we don't have the torso. we wlebelieve the body parts we deposited here in grif give park. >> are you looking for more body parts or articles of clothing? >> a little bit of everything. we'd like to find the remainder of this poor guy, any other
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clues that we can find, anything at all that would lead us to whoever committed this crime. >> you know, this is a popular area. i don't have to tell you that. i myself have actually hiked up to the hollywood sign. a lot of people go there. what do you want to say to the people? is this a public concern at this point? is there danger? >> well, right now there is somebody who committed a murder somewhere out there. that's something everybody should be concerned about. but generally this is a pretty safe area. we're going to open up the park trouble tomorrow morning we'll open up the section of the park tomorrow morning. we just ask people to be cautious, hike with friends, don't go off alone. just a little bit extra caution until we find this guy. we have our robbery homicide guys working on this so we'll find this guy. >> have you looked at missing persons report that might match what this guy looks like, at least part of him? >> you know, the city of los angeles takes about 3300 missing persons reports every year. we find about 80% of those.
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our detectives are scouring overall of those missing person reports to find out if we can figure out who this poor soul was. >> any idea how long these body parts might have been there? >> no. as you know, with the wildlife that we have in the hills here, with the coyotes and what not, if a body part is left up there, it's not long before it's disturbed by the animals. we believe this is a fairly recent occurrence, a matter of a couple of days or so. >> commander smith, what a bizarre tori you have on your hands. keep us up to date. thank you. rick perry says newt gingrich is the only candidate that can rally conservatives and beat president obama but can his endorsement push the former speaker ahead in south carolina. that's fair game next. first, a question for our political junkies. rick perry called it quits today right before the south carolina primary. two republican hopefuls withdrew from the white house race right after the south carolina
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primary. who were they? if you know the answer, tweet it to me @randikayecnn. if you're right, you'll get a shout out right after the break.
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before the break i asked you to name two republican hopefuls
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who left the 2008 race after the south carolina primary? congratulations to michael from michigan. you were correct to tweet the right answer. two earthquakes rattled the republican presidential race. rick perry says he's leaving the race and endorses mitt romney on the way out. also, mitt romney did not win the iowa caucus. rick santorum did. this is all fair game. shari, let's start with you, rick perry heading home to texas but not before endorsing newt gingrich. >> i think a lot of them are but remember evangelicals got together about a week or so ago and decided to support rick santorum. they did that in rick perry's home state of texas. that had to sting a little bit. mitt romney still has the
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support of a lot of conservatives. he's working very hard for it. little by little they are becoming comfortable for him. and to say that he has conservative vote and get more hits on him, certainly people focusing on his personal life, his marriage, listen to what rick perry said about gingrich a while ago. >> i believe newt is conservative visionary who can transform our country. we've had our differences which campaigns will inevitably have. and newt is not perfect but -- >> so, marie, what do you think? are his failings, is this old news to conservatives? do you think they care?
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>> i think it's definitely a try for the conservatives to try to coalesce behind one candidate and the republican party who despises mitt romney and there are a lot of them. they know that this is it for them. if they don't coalesce behind one candidate, if somebody comes out of south carolina and they know mitt romney is going to come away with a nomination. that's what they don't want to have happen. >> what does this mean for santorum's momentum and romney's
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momentum? >> it's a nice talking point for santorum. no question about it. he made big news whether he won by a few votes it still means mitt romney did well and is still not planning on playing well. iowa is good for both of them. should he not be the nominee when he eventually does have this endorsement to give, that we'll deliver a great many evangelicals to whoever the nominee is and i would take issue with the word despise. i don't think people despise mitt romney. they have their preferences and they would like to have -- they would like to have the campaign, whoever is the nominee, to focus on some of the issues. there are some who are vehement about it. advise is a strong word. >> that word came straight out of the mouth of a group of conservatives out of south carolina and she made no bones about it.
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>> it's no different than the primary that the democrats had in 2008. it got very nasty with barack obama and hillary clinton. we know how these things happens in the primary but eventually they come together for the nominee. >> if you look at gingrich's surge, he's cut romney's lead to ten points. romney is just seven points ahead in news released by politico. what do you think is behind it? >> i think there's two things. first, we already discussed, evangelicals and conservatives know that this is a make or break moment. but the second thing is, and i find is so ironic, and you see it interview after interview, they say that they are sick of negative ads. but guess what, negative ads work. we have the pact now up with
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extremely negative ads against mitt romney. that has been a huge factor in making sure that that mar sin is d diminishing in newt gingrich's favor going into the south carolina primary and that's good news for him. >> don't go anywhere. up next, i want to talk about the success on saturday. first, for all of our political questions, the elephant has been the symbol of the republican symbol since the 1870s. in what publication was the elephant first used to symbolize the gop. it's a tough one. tweet me. i'll give a shout out to the first person to get it right. ♪
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welcome back. before the break i asked you to
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name the publication that was first to use an elephant as a symbol of the republican party. the answer, there you see it, harper's weekly. when was it? back in 1874. it was used in a cartoon drawn by thomas, the same man who drew a donkey to symbolize the democratic party. and a big congratulations to nick who was first to tweet me the right answer. we have a lot of right answers. thanks everyone for playing political junkie. newt gingrich is rising in the polls and this is all happening hours before tonight's cnn debate. we're talking about it with maria cardona and shari. newt gingrich is having a pretty good run there in the last few days. the primary is almost here. what, if anything, do you think could side track him? >> well, obviously the news that his ex-wife is coming out with this interview that's supposed to be damaging, although that's
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ameliorated in some part by the news that the divorce papers show that she actually left him for about five or six years prior to everything going bad. so i think for him to do is to stay away from the personal stuff. mitt romney should stay away from the personal stuff. negative ads work, the sup super pacs do. they need to really hone in on some of the issues and focus can on jobs, focus on the economy and they will be talking about keystone and how the president really blew it. and this and that, the tit and tat with regard to the super pac ads. >> the debate begins at 8:00 eastern. what does romney have to do, maria, to gain that momentum? >> romney is going to have to prove that he can take the
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massive attacks that he can take tonight. let's face it, he does not have an adequate answer to why he hasn't released his tax returns, does not have an adequate answer to all of the accusations on what he did at his tenure at bain capital and all of that will be a focus tonight. in addition to that, he doesn't have a good answer as to why when he was governor of massachusetts his state was 47th in ranking in terms of job creation and yet he says he knows how to create jobs. he needs to understand that he's going to be the target of these attacks and he can't get rattled, which is something he was not able to do in the last debate. the last debate performance was one of the poor performances that he had. he can't do that tonight. >> we've talked to all of the other candidates. i don't want to let you go without talking about ron paul, cheri. what does ron paul need to do to stay in this and go on to florida? >> i don't want to give advice
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about how to stay in this and go on to florida, quite frankly. he's way down in the polls nationally. he has a very passionate following but they haven't indicated that they have a second choice. so i think that's what a lot of people are uncomfortable with. this is a republican primary where you obviously fight hard for your first choice and then look at your second choices and find what is good about them and eventually the party coalescs around the nominee. and right now it just doesn't seem like that is going to happen with the ron paul supporters. it will with some of them but not all of them. it's a wild card there. it's interesting to watch and i get lots of interesting e-mails from his supporters when i say something like this on the air. >> get ready. >> i'm happy to give advice to ron paul, randi. >> i'm sure you are, maria. i'm sure. thank you both. that is "fair game". >> thanks, randi. the gop contenders are facing off for what could be the republican debate. watch it right here on cnn.
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you may recognize our next guest, r.j. dickey decided to climb mt. kilamanjaro. he just returned from a trip up the mountain and he did it to raise money and awareness for this charity right here, bombay teen challenge. r.a. is joining us from
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nashville. so nice to have you on the show. i have to ask, why did you decide to risk your career as a professional pitcher to climb the tallest free-standing mountain on earth? >> i think first off, i kind of just weighed the options as far as what was risky and what wasn't. this was something that i felt logically didn't carry the technical climbing skills that an average climber might carry. it was nothing more than a glorified hike. i felt on all fronts it was going to be okay and i weighed the risk and decided to go forward with it. >> i know the mets weren't too happy about it. they were concerned about you getting injured. how do they feel now that you're back and what you've done? >> well, i completely can empathize with any major league club that would want to protect their investment. but at the same time, i think privately, they were probably all supporting me behind the
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paper statement they had to come forward and say look, if you do hurt yourself, we hold the right to void your contract. behind closed doors, i think everybody was cheering me on. now that i'm back, i think everybody is relieved. >> why the bombay teen challenge? >> well, i have two ughters. i have four kids and two daughters, 9 and 8. the thought of my own daughters being exposed to the atrocities that happened in mumbai in the broth he wills and sex slavery over there was heart breaking. i felt almost criminal not trying to use any platform that i had to raise awareness for a cause that is incredibly worthy. >> we had some pictures of you just a moment ago of you making your climb. what was the climb like and how did it feel when you made it to the top? >> physically, it was the most arduous thing i've ever had to do. i've trained as an athlete for most of my life, but this took
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the cake i think. a 7 1/2 hour summit attempt starting at 10:30 at night and then a 10 1/2 hour descent. on the summit day, we hiked for 17 1/2 straight hours. that was as physically demanding of a thing as i've ever done. but when you get to the top and you see the sun rise and the red glow above the clouds, you can't help but feel like you know, you're the only person on earthing. >> it must have been incredible. the pictures certainly are. about the other guys you had with you? a couple other major league players joined you on the climb. >> they did good. we all experienced some mild symptoms of altitude sickness. i started to get mild hallucinations but i was able to kind of rest and drink water and i began to crystallize. another guy needed a hit of oxygen before he could proceed. but we all were able to push to the peak at about the 19,400
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feet. >> wow. mild hallucinations, i will leave those to you. but really incredible what you've done. incredible accomplishment also for that charity. thank you so much, r.rr.a. dickey. >> cnn has joined the fight to end modern day slavery. learn mosh on our website, cnn.com. coming up, a georgia mother senior charged with krild cruelty after getting her 10-year-old son tattooed. wait until you hear the woman's reason. that's next. i think he's looking for savings. ♪ i can't watch this anymore. stop! there's an easier way! we compare your progressive direct rate to other top companies so you get a great price. no more running around. ha ha ha! wouldn't you love to see the world through his eyes? i bet i look like the strongest man in the world. the best place to find a great deal. now, that's progressive. call or click today.
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stories making news across the country at street level. first to georgia where a judge sentenced ryan brund to life in prison without the possibility of parole. brun pleaded guilty to murdering jirelli rivera listen to brunn's confession in court. >> was going to lower her in for sexual conduct with myself here. never had an idea of killing a child in my life. i was just so terrified and scared that i didn't want her to go home and tell her mom and dad on me. and i just, i cut her. >> brunn's guilty plea spares
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him from the death penalty. in detroit, michigan, ford is doing something it hadn't done in four years, giving salaried workers merit raises and bonuses this spring. that means good news for 20,000 employees starting april 1st. the free press says hourly workers will likely get a second profit sharing check in march based on ford's earnings. a generous history buff is doing what he can to repair history in washington. we're telling you about a donation in the amount of $7.5 million for the washington monument. the money will be used to help fix the extensive damage from the earthquake last august. david rubenstein, the co-founder of the firm the carlyle group is the man behind the massive donation. he says his reasons are simple. >> i hope that we reopen this monument as soon as possible so everybody who wants to pay homage to our first president and see the building can do so. >> the national parks it service doesn't know when the washington monument will be reopened to the
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public. get ready for more sticker shock at the pump. you could be paying 4 bucks or more a gallon by this spring. we've been paying the highest prices ever at the pump this month. aaa says the all-time hile is $4.11 reached in the summer of 2008. now to gwinnett county north of atlanta after public outcry and protests recent the teacher who used slave questions to teach math has resigned from this elementary school. officials say the teacher was trying to mix history with a math assignment for his third grade class. while the avenue to created the questions, they were copied and used by three other teachers. parents are calling on the school district to fire them. what would you do if your son or daughter asked to get a tattoo? a georgia mom said yes, and got arrested. she was charged with a misdemeanor child cruelty after she allowed her 10-year-old son
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to get a tattoo in memory of his 12-year-old brother who died after being hit by a car. she was arrested after someone at her son's school noticed the tattoo and alerted officials. she says she had no idea it's illegal in georgia to tattoo anyone under 1. she's now out of jail waiting for a court hearing which will happen in march. if you think you've heard everything, you haven't heard this. an ohio dairy farmer has created a spa of sorts for his cows. this is something. these beauties go to sleep on comfy waterbeds. the beds are seven feet long, four feet wide and each holds 14 gallons of water. they cost 300 bucks each. farmer dave conrad says "we do our very best to keep the cows happy." next thing you know, maybe they'll be getting a cow manicure. thanks for watching today. i'd love to hear what you think. you can continue the conversation with me on facebook or twitter @ randi kaye cnn. had n newsroom continues right now with brooke baldwin.
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>> cows and waterbeds? how do i coin on? hi, everyone. i'm brooke baldwin. top of the hour. let's get you caught up on everything making news. let's begin with texas governor rick perry. he says today, yep, he's suspending his presidential campaign and now throwing his support behind another southern conservative. >> as i have contemplated the future of this campaign, i have come to the conclusion that there is no viable path forward for me in this 2012 campaign. therefore, today, i am suspending my campaign and endorsing newt gingrich for president of the united states. >> and then there were four. you will see those four remaining candidates on stage, this stage minus one of those podiums. that's a picture when they were removing the fifth podium. tonight the southern republican presidential debate starts at 8:00 on cnn. and surprise, it appears that rick santorum actually won the iowa caucuses. the final certified tally released today shows santorum
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with a 34-vote margin over mitt romney. remember that night? cnn after dark anyone in the initial returns showed romney with an eight-vote victory over santorum, but iowa republicans won't declare an official winner because votes are still missing from eight precincts. more on today's breaking political news in a couple of minutes. also happening today, the number of people filing for unemployment benefits last week was 352,000. that was the lowest that number has been in just about four years. also today, bank of america raked in $2 billion. that happened in the last quarter of last year. that net income definitely surpassed the predictions from the different analysts and it goes a long way to make up for a loss from the year before. bank of america cut 67,000 jobs in that quarter and eventually plans to cut 30,000 jobs. inch los angeles, investigators, they're hiking the trails near the landmark hollywood sign trying to figure out how big a crime scene they're dealing with here.
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so far, they have hands, they have feet, and they have a severed of a male victim somewhere between 40 and 60 years of age. no sign yet though of the torso. today crews are searching a seven-acre area inch by inch. >> up this hillside we kind of fan out this way. we've got another group looking through the park is down there. the thought is it would be difficult to carry a large part of a body up there. there's very little chance it's up there. we'll comb through the hillside and see if they can locate anything, any kind of clues at all. >> the discoveries began actually just this past tuesday. two people out and about by the sign walking their dogs found the head initially wrapped in a plastic bag. and divers have returned to the waters right around the ship wrecked italian cruise liner. for now, the operation is still technically considered rescue, but authorities are considering now changing the mission to recovery. at least two dozen people are
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still missing. families are now asking authorities to continue the search. >> translator: i would like the rescuers to not stop looking and not stop look. my little gir, they need to bring her back home as soon as possible. >> as soon as as the operation is declared a salvage, experts will pump fuel out of the ship. a source tells ccnn the u.s navy is now sending a second aircraft carrier off the waters of iran. and this news, this comes as tensions continue to heat up over iran's threat of blocking the strait of hormuz which serves as a critical channel for 20% of the world's oil. just two weeks ago, iran warned the u.s. not to send another carrier through that strait. and what goes up must come down, right? well, that was the case with this giant balloon displaying the name of republican presidential candidate ron paul. the balloon loomed over a
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stretch of i-85 during morning rush hour in south carolina. look at the traffic. the highway patrol not exactly amused. were i'm sure commuters and told the supporters who inflated it to take it down. got a lot more for you in the next two hours, including this. we are hours away from a huge night in politics and now the entire narrative for tonight's cnn debate has dramatically changed. now the race is down to four. one candidate leaves, another candidate wins. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. rick perry out. >> i am suspending my campaign and endorsing newt gingrich. >> as the race for south carolina comes down to the wire, a sudden about face in iowa. >> it's been a great victory for us. >> find out why the history books are changing. >> game on. then the candidates are blasting president obama for
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pulling the plug on a pipeline running from canada all the way down to the gulf coast. >> this is a stunningly stupid thing to do. >> at one point, police arrested acres daryl hannah over this fight. she joins me live. also, i'll speak live with fareed zakaria who sat down with president obama. find out what the president revealed in this interview. ♪ >> and the one, the only dolly parton joins me live today on her birthday. we'll talk movies, country, and who knows? maybe some politics. but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife.
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quite the day for political junkies out there. big new bushels of politics today just two days away from the do or die south carolina primary and num role un know here, rick perry has seen the writing on the wall, the same writing he saw before. perry dropped out of the race late this morning. his once bright shooting star certainly flamed out in a hurry. here he is in bufurt, south carolina. >> as i have contemplated the future of this campaign, i have come to the conclusion that there is no viable path forward for me in this 2012 campaign. therefore, today, i am suspending my campaign and endorsing newt gingrich. >> so perry's support as you just heard goes on to newt gingrich. our new poll shows gingrich cutting into mihm romney's lead
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in south carolina. romney down four points from the first week of the month, gingrich up five points. he has cut romney's lead nearly in half. wolf blitzer is there in charleston, south carolina. and wolf, what do you make of those numbers? >> >> well, it seems to be even closer than our poll suggests. there have been a few other polls that came out today showing the last few days since monday night's debate, gingrich has really surged here in south carolina. so with him getting the endorsement from the rick perry this morning, let's say rick perry was getting 5 or 6%. if most of those people go ahead and vote for newt gingrich and it's close on saturday, who knows what could happen newt could win going into the florida primary on january 31st. it's a four-man race right now and it's getting is exciting here in south carolina. >> it is so exciting. i'm so excited for the primary on saturday. let's just take a quick trip down memory lane. at one point in time, perry had
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huge numbers. what do you make of the whole rise and fall of the texas governor in this race? >> what's impressive right now is after rick perry made those blunders in the earlier debates, that oops moment, if you will, when you couldn't remember the three departments in the u.s. government and the executive branch he wanted to eliminate, he had a problem remembering the third one, it was all downhill for him then. he never really recovered from those mistakes. ironically the last debate monday night, he did okay. he didn't have any major blunders or anything like that. so you know, he could never really get it back on track after some of those early mistakes in the debates. he really wasn't ready for primetime as they say. maybe four years from now, who knows what could happen. right now, he certainly isn't ready. he recognizes that himself. what is impress friv newt gingrich's standpoint, after he was crushed in iowa those pro-mitt romney super pac ads destroyed hip in iowa, he didn't
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do well in new hampshire, santorum we know won in iowa and came ahead of him in new hampshire, what's impressive is that newt has come back. he did have a good debate performance monday night and potentially on the verge of upsetting mitt romney here in south carolina. still a couple days to go before the saturday contest. we'll see what happens at the debate tonight. what i do predict, brooke, and i sense you sense it as well, it's going to be lively, four men up on the is taken, not five, not eight when i moderated those two debates. it's going to be lively tonight because these guys have nothing to lose right now. they're going to many could out swinging. >> you mentioned now there are four lecterns now up on that stage in charleston and you know, you hosted the last debate. and you got some pretty big props for that, wolf blitzer. this is just one exchange you had with ron paul. who can forget. >> my advice to him would have a major medical policy. >> he didn't have it. and he needs intensive care for six months.
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who pays? >> that's what freedom it all about, taking your own risks. this whole idea that you have to take care of everybody -- >> but congressman, are you saying that society should just let him dial? >> no. i practiced medicine before we had medicaid in the early 1960s when i got out of medical school. i practiced at santa rose sae hospital in san antonio and the churches took care of this em. >> all those people on the stage then in tampa now tonight four. i know gingrich embraces these debates and we'll be looking at the other candidates. what are you looking for from santorum, let's say? >> i think santorum is really going to come out swinging. i interviewed him earlier today. we're going to have the interview in "the situation room." he is really irritated with newt gingrich that he says that newt gingrich, how dare he suggest that he drop out of this contest after we now know he won in
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iowa, did better than newt gingrich in new hampshire. the fact that newt gingrich is even suggesting thatting is so irritating to rick santorum. i want to see how tough he gets on the stage. it's one thing to get irritated with newt in a conversation with me. i'm going to see how tough he gets with mitt romney later tonight. in one of his ads that's running here in south carolina, he basically says there's no difference between president obama and mitt romney when it comes to a lot of these issues. so will he be able to deliver tonight and ron paul, i'm always anxious to seep what he says because he's a real libertarian on so many of these domestic and national security issues. i suspect he's going to liven things up, as well. it's going to be a great debate. looking forward to it. >> 8:00 tonight eastern. wolf blitzer, thank you very much. sitting alongside you is our political analyst gloria borger. speaking of santorum, gloria, certainly another political story percolating today.
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rick santorum apparently surprised as we said was actually the winner of the iowa caucuses. i got to ask you, does that really -- does it really mean anything by this point or are we all sort of moving on? >> well, you know, as wolf was saying, santorum is upset and i don't blame him for being irritated because presidential campaigns are narratives. and if the narrative had been that santorum, you know, underdog, spent all his time in iowa, had won in iowa, defeated mitt romney, the overwhelming favorite to win the nomination, we might have had a different story line. when they came out of iowa, it was kind of a split, not that santorum didn't get the credit but i think it would have given his campaign a different kind of momentum and different kind of a feel. now here we are in south carolina and i think you're looking forward to florida. you're not looking backward to iowa. so i think it has much less
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impact. so the i don't blame san forum if he's irritated because you know what, when you work so hard to win a caucus in a state like iowa, you kind of expect them to be able to count the votes properly. wouldn't you think? >> you would think. you would think. >> yeah. >> the last couple of debates, gloria, it's been clear romney has been the front-runner. everyone else on the stage is taking verbal jabs specifically at romney. he'll be looking at santorium. do you think speaking of gingrich that he'll sort of bring up this income tax issue again with mitt romney? >> yeah, i think he will bring up the income tax issue with mitt romney. he's got nothing to lose on it. he did pretty well on it last time around. mitt romney has been playing defense on that. and in talking to people inside the romney campaign, it's clear to me that there's a discussion going on about whether, in fact, romney ought to release his
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taxes. i think gingrich, you know, it's going to be an interesting debate for gingrich tonight because on the one hand, he gets the endorsement from perry. on the other hand, his ex-wife marry ann gingrich has given "the washington post" and abc news as interview that could prove damaging to him, particularly with women voters about she says that he wanted an open marriage. his children by his first wife have sent a statement to abc news defending newt gingrich in this. i think you're going to have a very interesting dynamic here and rick santorum trying to say, let these twos guys fight. look at me, i'm the alternative. >> south carolina claiming two victims. we'll have to see how many tickets out of south carolina after saturday night. thank you so much. tonight the big night. we're hours away from huge, huge politics. gop con earneds facing off for what could be the final debate. join john king and wolf right here on cnn tonight 8:00
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eastern. turned around and gave me their baby and said take my baby. >> amazing new stories from folks who thought they were moments away from dying. up next, you're about to see behind the scenes video of crews going into that cruise ship wreck. chad meyers is actually a certified diver. he's going to walk us through this rescue effort next.
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rescuers are back at the ship wrecked cruise liner just off the coast of italy. the operation is still technically a rescue, but authorities are considering changing the mission to a recovery. as soon as it is deemed a recovery, salvage experts will then go in and start pumping the fuel out of the ship.
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there are several thousand tons of fuel still inside of that thing. the concordia was carrying 2300 tons to be specific of fuel when it hit the rocks off the coast of italy friday night and started to cinch. so far, at least 11 people are known dead. close to twos dozen are still missing. we've been getting amazing pictures coming in taken by some of the rescuers. i want to bring in chad meyers who apparently as we learned is a certified diver. >> sure. >> you just wear a lot of hats. it's amazing you can relate here to this story. walk us through the video. what are these divers doing? >> well, they are down below the surface of the water and the visibility has been very good. we are just going to see the video here for the very, very first time. i haven't seen it, brooke, you haven't seen it and obviously the people at home have not seen some of this video just coming in. they are blasting these holes in the side of the ship, getting down through these holes and now underwater certainly is going on. clearly the underwater search, they're not searching for
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survivors. it is the above water search that is so very impressive. they are getting up above the water, climbing the stair wells sideways literally because the boat is on its side, searching every cabin, even the inside cabins, search the bathrooms, every little nook and cranny of this place. being quiet for a while hoping to hear knocking, tapping. so far nothing. i honestly believed that at least yesterday i did, that people were still alive on the ship. now as the hours go by, it seems less and less likely. this guy is coming down from the top, getting down onto the board. this is probably about the seventh or eighth deck. he's going to climb into this. he goes into the balcony cabin and walks along the inside cabins, as well. they have all the blueprints. look at this. the video from underneath. >> you have to understand this ship held 3200 people. you have to understand how many hotel rooms it would take to
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hold 3200 people. there are so many cavities in this boat that still could have air and no water and still have live people. we just haven't seen one rescue yet. you know, even when haiti was coming in, remember is the disaster? 13, 14 days later, they were finding still people in the rubble. here this. the visibility is so very good, and there's not a lot of debris everywhere. these divers are allowed to get places because, well, the boat's till in one piece. it's not like a plane that came apart and wires are everywhere. >> but when i talked to i an diver the other day, he said a, the water is very cold and you can tell by the gear these guys are wearing and secondly, it's very dark down there. that's another concern, entrapment as you're trying to weave your way into the crevices. >> it's called spelunking if you go diving in a cave. you need a special certification to do the diving. that's what these divers are doing right now, literally going from cave to cave to cave all
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called cabins. it surprises me still passengers are missing. i understand understand that the crew would be missing because that's where the water would go first to the engine room, to the boiler room, things like that. >> perhaps they didn't know where they were going at the time. it's total chaos. chad, thank you. the first time we had seen that video. now this. >> this is a stunningly stupid thing to do. >> newt gingrich and other gop candidates blasting president obama for pulling the plug on a pipeline that would have run all the way from canada to the gulf coast right there by texas. but republicans say this fight isn't over. police arrested daryl hannah, actress daryl hannah in this battle when she protested over this keystone xl pipeline last year at the white house. we'll get her reaction to this big news we brought you yesterday as breaking news live next. and a choice. take advil now and maybe up to four in a day. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. way to go, coach. ♪
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rejected the pipeline project that would have transported oil all the way from canada from alberta down through the mid-sengz of the u.s. down to texas and the gulf coast. environmental voeblths say this is the best public interest. critics this is political. official little the president says, and this came down just yesterday because he didn't have enough timetom assess the impact of this 1700-mile long pipeline, didn't have the time to assess the impact on the environment. now, congress had given him two months to decide and the president's spokesman said setting that deadline, that that was the problem. >> the republicans put in jeopardy a process that should be immune from politics. should be conducted on the basis of pragmatic and considered
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analysis. >> but his republican critics point out thevation has had three years to look at the issue. >> rhetoric. and by deciding to block the development of the keystone pipeline, he has essentially decided to block the creation of 20,000 new jobs. >> let's go now to well-known opponent of the pipeline, actress and activist daryl hannah getting arrested last summer outside the white house for trying to protest the construction of the pipeline. she joins me now by phone. daryl, i imagine with the news yesterday from the president and the state department, are you relieved. yes? >> well, certainly i'm glad that he didn't accept an arbitrary date that was superimposed upon president obama to make a decision by a specific date and actually took in the interests of the american public and our well-being and the well-being of
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our food security and water security in making -- in delaying this decision, although i don't think it's an outright rejection. it's just yet another delay in the process of the pipeline. and just so you know, i mean, the jobs that they keep touting is sort of a red herring. every study that has been done has been done by the oil company and they started saying it's a few thousand jobs and then they go to tens of thousands of jobs. but in fact the only nonoil funded study that was done on the issue on the impacts of the pipeline related to jobs say it will take away as many jobs as it will create. there will only be 100 permanent jobs. and that's it. so it's really not a jobs issue. >> to your point if i may jump in it, we were talking about this yesterday with regard to the jobs, i don't think there is officially one hard number on the jobs. so i think that while we don't nope that specifically, the creation of several hundred,
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several thousand, that's you know to be determined. also there's been criticism on the other side that you know, when he people say this sort of oil sand is dirty in a bad kind of oil, people have said that's exand rated, as well. you have to look at both sides of this issue. you bring up the point about this is a delay, right? perhaps the delay of the inevitable. uninvestor told bloomberg news he bought 350 shares of transcanada saying it or he believes it will be approved. so if -- how do you prepare. >> indication that you know that the powers that be want to approve it. i mean president obama has as his chief of the campaign adviser the man who was formerly the chief lobbyist for transcanada. so i mean, there's every indication that they want and plan to approve it. >> what are your next steps. >> it is not in the interest of the american public. we are already refining is tar sand oil in oklahoma. they want to get it down to the gulf so they can make it
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available for the open market. this has nothing to do with what's in the best interests of the american people of lowering our gas prices of creating any kind of energy security of creating our own energy cleanly and domestically. nothing to do with that. this is just to benefit the oil companies. they have tons -- tens of millions and hundreds of millions of dollars to lobby politicians to make it happen. that's what they're trying to do. >> and there is concern and questioning, daryl, whether or not if the u.s. doesn't take this oil and this pipeline that is some other country will, perhaps china. i was talking about that with ali velshi. here's what he was saying. take a lis. >> and there's truth on both sides of this. politics has muddied it. we are big consumers of oil. we import most of our oil, most of it comes from canada and other people are willing to buy that canadian oil, in particular the chinese. so from a buyer's perspective, it may not be the best idea to say we're not building the pipeline extensioning. >> what do you say to that,
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daryl hannah? >> the pipeline is not to bring oil to the united states to provide oil for the united states. the pipeline is to bring oil to the gulf of mexico to process it and make it available for sale on the open market. so that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with our energy security, available oil for us or versus china. it's just going to be for sale and the highest bidder gets the prize. you know? it's also just a distraction from the real issue. this is not what's really going on here. >> this issue continues. darrell hannah, i have a feeling our conversation will continue as we see what happens to this perhaps after this election cycle. perhaps when politics doesn't play into this as both sides say. darrell hannah, thank you very much. coming up next, it is a place where 90% of all murders are unsolved. so cnn asked police if we can ride along on a call. >> so we jumped in the trucks and we're headed there right now
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to see what's going on. >> what will police find and our correspondent there is shocking. this is a cnn special investigation. we've got a preview next. i'm robert shapiro. over a million people have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com, we put the law on your side.
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if you mix deported california gang members with latin american drug cartels, what do you get? you get a country with a murder rate to rival anything. the place i'm talking about is honduras. kaj larsen takes us there. we've got to warn you, some of the pictures in this piece are very gruesome but are included to show how violent is the region has now become.
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>> in honduras, over 90% of crimes like murder are never solved. they call it the impunity rate. i asked the chief of police in san pedro sula, the second biggest city here, if they would take us along when a call came in on a crime. a minute later, we got our wish. >> so we jumped in the trucks and we're headed there right now to see what's going on. it's completely real. we're not making up how violent this place is. we've been here four hours and our first body has turned up. it appears that he's been shot. the impact wound appears to be right here on the right side of his head, and the police commissioner told us that you know, as is very typical in these situations, nobody saw
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anything, nobody heard anything and nobody knows this guy. [ speaking foreign language ] >> nobody wants to talk. which suggests that people are definitely afraid in this neighborhood. >> as they should be. for years, the region has been plagued with violent gangs started by gang members deported from california. but in the last few years, it's also become the main corridor for narcotics coming up from south america. as the big mexican cartels have looked for staging areas here, murder rates have sky rocked. >> so this is the entrance to the morgue and. there must be 15 bodies here. yesterday, they received 11 bodies. and this morning, five more. >> they get new bodies every day, 80% of them are from violence. they're usually shot either with a pistol or a rifle.
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>> there's not much to say. i mean, this woman and her mother who just lost two the sons, two of the bodies i just saw inside the morgue, the son and the brothers of these twos women. there's a human cost of the drug war, and they're paying it in blood. >> and this we just saw is actually part of this massive two-part investigation. don't miss kaj's in-depth report on these narcowars this weekend, sanjay gupta and i are co-hosting again the cnn presents" this sunday night 8:00 eastern and it will reair at 11:00 eastern. coming up next as republicans attack president obama left and right, his re-election campaign releasing its vets first ad of the season. cnn's fareed zakaria sat down with the president and asked him questions about a number of hot button issues including why he doesn't have a good relationship
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hitting newstands and ipads tomorrow, the new issue of "time" magazine. inside, cnn's fareed zakaria has an exclusive interview with president obama. the president hits back at republicans is over foreign policy, confronts the threat from iran and offers a reason why he is sometimes has his reputation among some circles as coming off cool, aloof, detashed. but you don't have to wait till tomorrow to hear the good parts about this. one of my favorite people at cnn and one of the smartest guys i get to talk to is this man
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fareed zakaria. you sat down with him yesterday? >> yesterday morning. that's right. >> yesterday morning. i want to begin with actually quoting you quoting mitt romney. he called the president "timid, indecisive and nuanced on foreign policy." when you brought that up to the president, let me read what he said. i think mr. romney and the rest of the republican field are going to be playing to their base until the primary season is over. once it is, we'll have a serious debate about foreign policy. fareed, if it comes down to obama and romney, who wins that debate? >> oh, i think obama's got a very strong record on foreign policy. look, when he came into office -- the united states had 140,000 troops in iraq. was, remember, was ride lid disliked around the world. we are large parts of the world thinking we had ignored them in a kind of obsession with terrorism. and in three years, he's down down the troops in iraq from
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140,000 to zero. troops are beginning to draw down in afghanistan. and meanwhile, the counter-terrorism part of the policy, the hitting al qaeda has been spectacularly successful. most of al qaeda's top leadership has been killed and most importantly, osama bin laden has been killed. now he's pivoting to asia, the place where the future of american prosperity will be and focusing on that. so he's got a pretty strong record. i think what romney will find difficult is that the old republican tactic of attacking democrats for being weak isn't going to work because on the core issue of fighting america's enemies, fighting al qaeda, obama has outflanked them on the right. he's been more aggressive than bush and more successful. >> he's been successful when it comes to some of his foreign policy. you point out it's sort of this interesting comparison you make. the president has this reputation managing this complex foreign policy issues, great job managing this team. yet, congress not so much. in fact, you asked the president
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why he hasn't developed a better relationship with congress. he mentions yeah, he played a pretty good golf game with john boehner. why can't they work together? what did he say? >> he said two things. it's interesting you pick up on that answer because in some ways it's my favorite answer. >> yes. >> he first says look, you got to understand, this is not just about personalities. the republicans have decided that they're not going to give anything on tax increases and we democrats have come to them offering more budget cuts, more spending cuts than even were in simpson boles. they've got to give us something on their side. if you don't do that, you don't have a deal. that's the basic problem. i can play many more golf games with john boehner, it's not going to change that fundamental problem. he says we actually got on well. we enjoyed playing golf. but then he says when i pished him about the aloofness, i said people say you don't pal around with either congressional leaders or foreign leaders. he said, look, this is all because people in washington want me to hang out with them
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and socialize with them and go to parties with them. michele and i don't do that. and we realize we're paying a price he was saying. he said but here's the reason. we've got a two young dogs. and this is a really crucial part of their point in their lives. we want to spend time with them and be good parents. i'm sorry, we're not going to be on the washington social scene. and because we don't hang out with people in washington, everyone in washington thinks we're aloof. i thought it was a very human response. >> i loved the answer. in fact, i loved so much, we have a graphic. he answered to you fact is, i've got a 13 and 10-year-old daughter. so no, michele and i don't do the social scene because as busy an we are we have a limited amount of time and want to be good parents at a time that's vitally important for our kids. he's been called aloof before. you sat across from him yesterday. how does he come off in person? >> i've never found him cold and aloof. i think he's a very real, very normal person. most politicians are kind of
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weird. you wouldn't want to spend a lot of time with them. obama is a kind of very unusual in that he's very normal. you also get that sense of his being a very dedicated father. i've had the honor to meet him a number of times. and i think at almost every time, he has talked about his children. they're just naturally coming into the conversation for him. it's obvious they're on his mind all the time. part of it is that i have kids about the same age. but he always brings them up. we started the interview talking about he had a cold. he says you know, i think i got it from sasha. you know how it is when kids pass things on. they're always part of his thinking. >> uh-huh. as with so many fathers. i do want to ask you about iran know and in your interview, you write barack obama is already pointed in the right direction on foreign policy. the challenge is to find this sweet spot. but in october you said america's policy toward iran is stuck in a time warp and that
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"obama's iran policy looks a lot like jrnlg wfrl bush's, pressure and more pressure." what is the speet spot with iran? >> that's a good question. i was making an overall characterization. i've been somewhat critical of the iran policy. here's the reason. they're putting a lot of pressure on iran which is a good thing. they're doing it very intelligently and effectively by getting other countries involved, chinese have said they're going to buy less iranian oil. that's going to hurt the iranians. you can't just put pressure. you've got to find an exit strategy because the iranians, this is a proud country, a proud regime. they're not going to just wake up one morning and say we give up, we surrender. there's got to be some diplomatic bath for a face-saving exit where there can be some kind of compromise. no one's talking to them. all i say is keep the pressure on but you've got to find -- find some diplomatic mechanism to get them off the ledge and that's the sweet spot sfloof fareed zakaria, as always, thank
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you so much. let's remind everybody "fareed zakaria gps" sundays on cnn. fareed, thank you. if you drive a car or heat a home with natural gas, this next story absolutely concerns you. some companies use this process called fracking to get oil and natural gas out of the earth. this is a profitable business and creates many jobs in this country but some experts say there are huge concerns. concerns like manmade earthquakes, environmental damage and waste from fracking. up next, we have the hard questions about that waste and its impact on the earth. be right back.
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the state of ohio is now getting this reputation as the place for other states to go to get rid of waste. the business is actually helping ohio weighs economy but many believe it's hurting the environment, especially they say because the waste ohio is taking in comes from the oil and gas industry. it's this process known as fracking. poppy harlow has the story. >> reporter: you can't flush fracking wastewater down the drain. so millions of barrels of it are coming right here, to ohio. >> we're putting it exactly where the federal government says to put it, down deep injection wells. this is the number one injection well. >> don krieger manages one of
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nearly 180 disposal or injection wells unless ohio used to hold the waste from oil and gas drilling where fracking is often used to break apart shale. the so-called brian bryan is injected thousands of feet into the earth at intense pressures. >> how much have you seen business nis increase? >> about 50% in the last year. >> there are about 144,000 disposal wells just like this one all across the united states. and with the fracking boom, there's a whole lot more waste to deal with. how much of the waste do you accept here is coming from out of state? >> say about one-third of it is out of state. >> reporter: it's coming from places like pennsylvania where there are not nearly enough wells to hold the waste. last year, mo are than 5 million barrels of fracking waste came into ohio from out of state. >> why is it good for the westside of youngstown to inject all that filth and all that garbage like a septic tank and
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that's okay? >> this is all actually new frack cracks. >> fueling that anger, a series of 11 earthquakes in joungstown since march, which scientists have linked to a local disposal well. >> why become the dumping ground of the entire united states? >> the dumping ground? >> you bet, it is a dumping ground. >> how can you be against it? it's not like we're taking in trash. >> it's saltwater and i an small amount of chemicals. and it brings much needed money. >> is it a good thing for ohio. >> i'm sure my members operating these well are enjoying the economic stream from that. business is business. >> krieger's company charges $3 a barrel for out of state waste. >> how much drilling wastewater is being pumped deep into the earth here? >> 2,000 barrels a day approximately. >> and since ohio started charging companies to truck in their waste a little over a year ago, the state has made roughly 1 million bucks from it. >> i'm definitely in favor of the fracking. the disposal is a by-product that needs to be dealt with safely, environmentally, and i
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think the residents, once they are educated won't have a problem with this. >> reporter: ohio issued more disposal well permits last year than ever before by a long shot. >> i think so many of the decisions in our country today really pit short-term economic development against long-term environmental hazards or environmental quality, quality of life issues and this is just another one of those. >> poppy harlow live once again. you know, isn't the fracking boom just going to create more and more waste? where does the waste end up? i imagine it has to go somewhere. >> yeah, it's going to absolutely do that unless we see some sort of slowdown which no indicator is pointing to right now other than lower natural gas prices. this is an industry burgeoning. pennsylvania only has about seven of these disposal wells. ohio has almost 180. also in pennsylvania, they outlawed pouring this waste into rivers and streams which they used to be able to do. they've got to put it somewhere.
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right now ohio is taking in 54bers of this waste from outside of state and also putting their own waste in the ground coming from places like west virginia. in new york, you're seeing a huge fracking boom in upsay the new york. where is that going to go? a lot of this will have to be determined by what the epa says in a study that's set to be released sometime later this year. but as this is fracking increases and yes, as we always say, brooke, it's great for jobs, it's great for the economy. you're going to have more of this waste and figure out where to put it. as we talked about earlier this week, the fear that some of these wells may be triggering earthquakes has a lot of residents wondering if they want ohio to be a dumping ground despite the money that it brings in. >> we appreciate your reporting, poppy harlow out of ohio. go to cnn.com/money to read more of poppy harlow's pieces. poppy, thank you so much. in just a couple minutes, we'll go live to south carolina. we are getting news frommore's campaign regarding the new iowa results that show he actually lost the caucuses there.
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>> plus, let's take a moment to get nostalgic. remember this songing? our i-reporters have been amazing. they've been paying tribute to the american company that helped them really chronicle their own lives. look at this. they're thinking kodak. they have sent in their personal kodak moments. the kodak too long may be headed toward becoming an memory. it's now filed for bankruptcy protection. how the industry icon plans to save itself next. trending toda
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company that helped us make our memories. kodak revolutionized photography, brought picture making to the public. remember the commercials, songs like true colors that made you, you know, get a little tearyie eyed. >> time and time again, the world's great pictures are trusted to one film. kodak. why trust your memories.
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>> here's the news with kodak. they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection today. it is trying to reorganize after revealing it owes billions to more than 100,000 creditors. let's go to felicia taylor there in new york. felicia, kodak's been in trouble for a little while. >> yeah, it has. i mean, you know, you were talking about those kodak moments. but frankly, this company has been talking about bankruptcy. so it didn't really come as much of a surprise. those discussions started last year. the writing's been on the wall. they haven't posted an annual profit since 2004. it tried to sell off some patents to stay afloat but it wasn't enough. it had $7 billion in debt. it announced today it it is suing samsung electronics for inuringing on some of the patents and taken similar action against apple. that's where the problem was because they were counting on the revenue stream from those patents to stay in place. obviously, some companies have infringed or allegedly have
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infringed. they've streamlined the corporate structure. two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" said bankruptcy was likely. the shares plunged down some 90%. after today's filing, the stock has been delisted at the new york stock exchange. that happens when a stock trades below a dollar for a certain period of time, usually a few months. >> since '04 they hadn't seen a profit. what happens to kodak? can they continue to operate or no? >> yeah, absolutely. this is important for people to understand. kodak is not closing its doors. bankruptcy does not mean closure. it's going to get $950 million in financing from citigroup. it says that's enough to the pay suppliers, business partners, and keep the company operating. sometimes what happens during bankruptcy proceedings is the company itself doesn't have to pay out health benefits and pensions but evidently the company does intend to do that. that's a good sign. there's no word about layoffs so far but those 19,000lo

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