anything to drink right now although i'm hammered at the moment. >> pat sajak and alex trebeck and me. now that would be a game show worth watching. who the donors are. we may be about to find out. and is it just what president obama needs to seal it up? and a lawsuit filed today, seeking millions of dollars, actually hundreds of millions of dollars for the passengers onboard the cruise ship that crashed into rocks in italy.

as a matter of fact, we're looking at more than $450 million. a lawyer joins us tonight. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. happy friday, everyone. i'm erin burnett. the million dollar election so far. $35 million have been spent in only four states on the republican side. and 85% of the money that gingrich and romney's super pacs has spent have been on negative acts. >> gingrich exaggerating, dropping reagan's name 50 times. but reagan mentions gingrich only once. >> there are a lot of reasons not to elect me. >> all right. but $35 million super pac damage so far is just a scratch compared to the gash this money will inflict on candidates before november. american crossroads and priorities usa action are two names we all need to know. they're the big super pacs for the republicans and the democrats. and they say they will raise millions of dollars for their candidate.

who is bank rolling all of this. you may find out a little bit on tuesday. that's when super pacs are required to reveal their donors. but guess what? there's a loophole and both american crossroads and priorities usa action are exploiting it. this is a bipartisan loophole as frankly most loopholes are. here's how it works. super pacs are allowed to have a nonprofit arm. so, for example, the nonprofit for the conservative pac, super pac, american crossroads is called crossroads gps. so if a donor writes a check to crossroads gps, then the donor's name never has to be disclosed. so a super pac expert tells "out front" to expect these anonymous donations to add up to big, big, big money.

we wanted to ask whether we can close this loophole. so at least we know who is bank rolling the candidates. well, will it happen? not likely. i asked bill burton, the head of the democratic super pac that we're talking about, priorities usa action, whether he would be open to disclosing his donors. >> no, what we're going to do is we're not going to give karl rove, the koch brothers, the private equity guys supporting mitt romney any more advantages. we're not in position of saying we'll step aside and let you playing by a different set of rules. >> instead of everyone shaking hands saying we should all disclose. like we said, a bipartisan loophole action. great to have all of you with us. i know i say it with a little bit of a smile, dave, this is bipartisan in a sense, but it truly is here.

what i fail to understand, and maybe you can explang why this loophole exists. >> of course, the democrats want to blame the pruns and the republicans want to blame the democrats. but you're right. this is not exclusive to any one party. and is this going to change? well, congress tried to change it back in 2010. they tried to pass a piece of legislation called the disclose act. well, it went nowhere. and right now, the federal election commission, congress again, the irs, pretty much everyone is thinking about weighing in, but really not going anywhere with it. you've got to wonder if the supreme court is going to actually get involved again. of course, back in 2010, there was a major court decisions called citizens united versus the federal election commission that set all of this into motion as we know it now. i know you see a use for super pacs. ear demonized and they run negative ads. i want to ask why you think there's a role for them in american politics. but first, if you give massive amounts of money as a company or wealthy individual to a super pac and you write a little check to its charity, it really seems ridiculous that you should not be able to disclose who you are. how does the lack of transparency here make sense. can it? >> i absolutely understand where dpoeks are. co-ing from. but the charitable arms do fundamentally different stuff. they're work on larger ideological products, not necessarily on campaign

they're demonized and run negative ads and it doesn't help them. i want to ask you why you think there is a role for them in american politics, but first, the loophole. if you give massive amounts of money to a super pac and write a little check to its charity, it really seems ridiculous. >> i absolutely understand where folks are coming from, but those charitable a.r.m.s. do different stuff. and the thing is that anonymous political speech has been part of american life for a really long time. james madison and alexander hamilton didn't use their real names when writing the federalist papers. it sounds slippery, but i think there is a space for protecting anonymous political speech. >> the bottom line here is that a lot of people wouldn't give a lot of money if they were going to have to disclose because a lot of wealthy people don't want that kind of attention and so the fact there is a way the give a lot of money without disclosure actually encourages contributions to these super

pacs, so that's one of the reasons why politicians like that. >> but shouldn't we need to know, dave? that's my point. a wealthy individual or big company gives a lot of money in the hopes that they're going to get something. not saying they're trading for a specific something, but they want influence and shouldn't we have the right the know? >> these groups in some cases are spending seven, eight figures on political advertisements, if not overtly going for or against a particular candidate, getting darn close to that line and really what the internal revenue service says if you're a

non-profit group, you can be politically engaged, but can't have it as your primary purpose. a lot of people are arguing that many of these groups are are being set up, but really do when it comes down to it, have a primary purpose of playing politics. >> i guess this comes back to congress and frustrations that many feel with congress that when this comes in front of them, they're going to see keep the loophole because they benefit from the super pac money. >> to be fair, a lot of democrats including the president, didn't like the decision that allowed these super pacs to exist in the first place, so you have that, but now they've got them, you know, you interviewed bill burton there. nobody's going to unilaterally disarm and say i'm going to disclose, but you don't have to. either way, these super pacs as you know, erin, they serve the candidates' purposes so well. they have deniability. they say okay, they can do the negative ad, we hate them, but can't really talk to them, so it's not us. it's them. >> another summit in reykjavik like the last disarming summit. i use the word nuclear because that's how a lot of people feel. you were trying to tell people why super pacs have a relevant and important role to play in american politics and are not just negative vehicles with big influence and money. >> they've become a huge vehicle because we've made it so hard for the political parties to be effective.

that political party could find a young candidate, military veteran or someone else who wasn't able to raise a lot of money and was able to put money to that candidate's advantage. candidates have to be able to raise huge amount of money and we need other organizations with a voice to influence a large political environment. that's what super pacs are doing. not as well at the parties, but that was this desire to regulate the system. >> makes you want to go back to the old days, of course, that would decimate our industry. final word to you, dave. what are we going to find out next week when for the first time in six months, we're going to get disclosures from the newt gingrich and mitt romney super pacs. we should get a full list, right? >> sort of. it's only going to be through december 31st, so all the spending that has taken place in january, which has been millions upon millions of dollars, we

millions of dollars of investments, when you talk about having a supposed secret swiss bank account, these are not things that the average voter can relate to. isolated situation or any one state with stuff like that, you know, it's going to have its effect. watch television changing forever, and the man behind it, our guest.

he's gotten a lot of good data points recently. and now, pirates threatening to kill another american they're holding. a guy who went to write a book on pirates right after the rescue of another american. and passengers on board the cruise ship that ran aground awe the coast of italy are seeking hundreds of millions of dollars in a lawsuit filed by six passengers. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor.

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days after american commandos rescued an american hostage, pirates are threatening to kill another u.s. citizen cht he was there for a book on pirates. on tuesday, nine pirates died when special forces, u.s. s.e.a.l. team six freed jessica buchanan. who had been held since october in somalia. great to see you, general. let me start by asking you this. obviously, a lot of these pirates are young kidses. they're desperate. don't have a lot to lose. do you think that raid from the s.e.a.l.s this week put michael moore's life at greater damage? >> i really don't and first of all, it's a difference, but these really aren't pirates. these are kidnappers. they're hanging on in this case,

in a hostage situation. i have no doubt if there is another assault, they will use any means necessary. we see that in every situation with somalia, whether it's pirates or kidnappers, they're willing to use force, they're another assault, they will use any means necessary. we see that in every situation with somalia, whether it's pirates or kidnappers, they're willing to use force, they're willing to kill their hostages to get the ransom they demand. >> how seriously do you take the threat they could execute michael moore, the man writing the book on the pirates or do you think this is an empty threat? >> remember, this is a business and that may just be part of the marketing campaign.

they have no intention of killing as long as they can get the money they're looking for, but they will use as i said earlier, extraordinary means. we had a situation where recently, a taiwan captain had his hand cut off because the company would not pay the ransom demanded. >> u.s. policy is that the united states of america does not negotiate with pirates, with terrorists. behind the scenes, sometimes the united states of america does just that. should it in this case or does that then open the door for these thin things to start happening more and more frequently? should the united states back

off and try to call the bluff with someone's life hanging in the balance? >> first of all, we'd never leave an american in the hands of kidnappers either here in america or abroad. it remains a policy of the united states that we don't negotiate with terrorists, but that doesn't stop the government from relying on the commercial sector to get their people out to get their ships out. those captains have a duty to care and it is part of this commercial exchange, this commercial transaction and that's really what we have at route here is a simple commercial transaction, the pirates and kidnappers want money. the money is paid and the people are released. >> all right. thank you very much. appreciate you're taking the time tonight. >> just a few hours ago, the first major lawsuit was filed against the cruise ship company involved in the deadly cruise ship accident in italy two weeks ago. it comes on the same day that the cruise line offered $14,000 of compensation to each passenger. the cruise line is carnival. lots of legal troubles for the company. the captain is under house arrest facing possible charges of manslaughter. 16 bodies have been recovered from the wreckage. 16 still missing. my next guest represents the passengers who just sued the company. good to see you. >> thank you, erin. >> the cruise ship line, carnival, had come out, they limit damages to about $60,000 a person. they are offering as we said, about $14,000 as well as psychological counseling for passengers. why was that enough?

>> why was that not enough did you ask? >> right. >> it is an insult and this was not an incident that could possibly be covered by the ticket lit -- by the ticket limitations. erin, this is a act of horrendous negligence. it was careless disregard for human life and property. this was not covered by any limitations. >> how did you find the six clients that you have? >> well, the clients found us in a number of different ways. we have a lawyer in italy, a consumer group called code cons who sent us a number of italian plaint i haves, two from miami and two from new york. they know us by reputation. we just handled the world trade center litigation. another where people said you

could never recover. >> here's my only thing about this. that i think some people, they struggle to understand it in lawsuits. economic and comp pence story damages. punitive damages of $450 million. that sounds obscene and frankly well beyond the damage of people who got off the ship perfectly healthy and sound. is this just a number you throw out for dramatic effect? some might say this is an example of why we need tort reform in america? >> first of all, nobody got off of that ship perfectly okay. that is a fallacy. nobody that was on that ship that faced that terror, that faced death and ultimately got off of that ship will remember that for the rest of their lives. whether or not they have a scratch. a psychological aspect is with them for the rest of their lives. it is impossible to understand

the terror, the emotional suffering that a person is going to have to undergo for the rest of their lives as a result of this absolutely wreck. >> alana: conduct by the ship and the captain and carnival itself. >> but how do you get a number of more than a million dollars a person? >> you know what? these are numbers that are put into lawsuits. it gets the attention. >> okay. >> of the defendants. >> so, i understand. you are doing it to get attention. you're not doing it because you think that's the number you're going to get. >> we may. we do not know the nature and the full extent of the damages that these people have suffered. that may not be known for years, so we have to make sure that they are covered adequately. >> thank you very much, sir.

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a tragic accident or horrific honor murders.

that is the decision in the hands of jurors. right here in north america. and what's your favorite airport? think that's an oxy moron? maybe not. we'll be back. so, last night we were in florida for the cnn gop debate and today, we had some massive airport delays and barely got back for the show. it was tight this time. usually, airport delays are totally helped, but not today because today, we spent time in what i think might be america's best airport. the jacksonville international airport. code letters jax, which is cool to start with. the terminals are full of open spaces and clean, bright stars. sunny food court with live music from the man there. massages, an art gallery. in an airport. and everywhere you turn, real live people offering help and smiling and actually inviting you to talk to them. proof that talk of america's infrastructure demise is not all right. while we were there, we stayed

at a place called tapestry park. a make believe little village where shopkeepers now live over their stores and they've got church bells that make it sound like mid evil europe. puts you in a good mood. we broadcast last night's show from the university of north florida, which was a beautiful campus and has an increasingly popular global lodgistics training program. 44,000. that is the number people employed by the distribution industry in northeast florida. lodgistics is one of the region's fastest growing energy sectors. mercedes benz, publix have distribution centers and women, men who buy them gifts, did you know that 90% of all coach bags are shipped through jacksonville? that's right. that's all good news for jacksonville and graduates because every year, 11,000 new distribution jobs are needed in florida. that is pretty darn amazing and jacksonville, a pretty neat city

to discover. what's your favorite airport? again, not always an oxy moron. they even have a spa there. let us know your vote. president obama was campaigning at the university of michigan today. miles away, his opponents are fighting for florida's 50 dell bats and are american children putting their lives on the line in the name of sports sm dr. sanjay gupta with a look at concussions. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle --

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our show with stories we care about, what we focus in our own r reporting, do the work and find the "outfront" five. number one, the shady super pacs. $35 million have been spent by super pacs so far in swrus four states on ads. the powerful political groups are required to disclose donors next tuesday, so we're going to find out who's giving the big bucks, right? not exactly. there's a loophole and the biggest super pacs are exploiting it. a lot have non-profit a.r.m.s., so your identity doesn't have to be disclosed. so we may never know who is bankrolling the biggest super pacs. you could be looking at a billion on this campaign. two, a judge sentenced joshua komisarjevsky to death. he said quote i did not rape, pour that gas or light that fire. he was convicted of killing two, a judge sentenced joshua komisarjevsky to death. he said quote i did not rape, pour that gas or light that

fire. he was convicted of killing william pettitte's wife and two daughters before setting their house on fire. dr. pettitte was the sole survivor. number three, proctor and gamble announced its quarterly profit fell 49% last year. there were some one-time charges that hurts company. if you take those out, the company did better than wall street was looking for and p and g cut its outlook for the quarter because of a higher tax rate. four, the u.s. economy grew by 2.8% in the last three months of last year. now, that was weaker than expected. they were looking for 3%. now, there was a pick-up in

consumer spending, but it wasn't as much as people were looking for and the cut in defense spending hurt gdp in the quarter. nigel gault tells us the data does not show the recovery taking off. this is consistent with improvement, which may be enough to get the president re-elected. it's been 175 since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. cypress, which is a really interesting, you know, money laundering center. spain, italy and belgium. the president out in the important swing state of michigan today selling his state of the union message and fighting back against republican attacks that he's trying to redibt wealth and engage in the quote, politics of envy. >> nobody envies rich people. everybody wants to be rich. everybody aspires to be rich and everybody understands you've got to work hard if you're going to be financially successful. that's the american way. >> thousand miles away, the president's republican opponents fighting for 50 delegates in

florida because every delegate counts. romney is ahead of gingrich by nine points and this was taken before the debate last nigh, which by most accounts, romney seemed to have a strong performance. now, john avlon, jamal simmons and rick willen. great to have you with us. >> happy friday. >> we finally got here. with a few minutes to spare. john, let's talk about this politics with envy charge. it's something the republicans have been talking about. it's become a little bit of a phrase. it's going to be something people talk about on the campaign trail this year. is the president's push back on this convincing? >> well, the president needs to push back. republicans are going to label anything they can class warfare and the president is trying a populoust appeal.

that's his key edge. pitting mitt romney or whoever the republican nominee is, mr. 1%. the democratic base, particularly, the liberal base, is limited. only 20% of americans say they're liberal, so he's walking a fine line on the republican side that he is talking about wealth redistribution. >> jamal, let me ask you about what the president's plan is. the economic numbers were disappointing, but they may be enough to keep getting the kind of job growth we've been getting, which may be enough to get the president re-elected on that key point that matters so much. do you get the feeling they are concerned in the white house, that the economy is not cooperate rating? >> i think they're more concerned about what mayo cur. if the president can make the argument that we've turned the corner, the trajectory is going in the right direction, get a new president, it's going to

take a long time for him to get up to speed and get moving. if he can make the argument, he's okay. the problem b is you've got europe dangling out there. you've got iran out there. there are all kinds of things that could put a shock to the system they can't control. that may make them more nervous. >> let me talk about what went on in florida. it was interesting to watch the debate last night. how many times did we hear the word despicable in debates? two times. one by newt and one by mitt. by most accounts, romney came on strong, fought hard and seemed to win. what do you see in terms of momentum? is it affecting newt gingrich or not? >> well, i think people had come to expect that newt is always

going to perform this parlor trick and it just didn't happen for him last night. he had a situation where wolf blitzer, you know, was ready for him and just cold cocked him when he went after him. the audience was not with newt gingrich last night and they're complaining the audience was stacked, but the fact of the matter, he didn't connect with a audience like he did in south carolina and when voters predicate their support and he doesn't deliver, then he's going to obviously have a night where he can't sustain the mojo. >> can't be amazing every night. i like the wolf blitzer cold cocked one. you've been following mitt romney all day. does he seem to feel more confident? it was actually part of the reason he performed so well last

night is he was feeling the heat, so he lashed out. >> that's right. today, we're just at an event with him, an hour ago on the space coast at cape canaveral. relatively small turnout and a brief speech by romney. but he's not trading his fire on newt on the other candidates. he's focusing his fire on president obama. that's a sign of someone who feels pretty confident. sarah palin did an all but endorsement of newt online, but i think newt's folks are hoping will change the momentum here, but when you turn on the radio in florida, what you get is a lot of anti newt ads by mitt romney affiliated super pacs. it's the money versus momentum thing and it's a factor here in florida. >> jamal, what's your feeling of what the white house is doing?

still assuming it's going to be mitt romney as bill burton has openly admitted or not? >> i think most democrats believe that mitt romney will be the nominee. the hope is that gingrich continues to stay in there and santorum maybe has another win left in him so this fight will last a little bit longer. but it does look like romney's got what it takes to finish the nomination fight. lasting night when you watched him, he was clearly more confidence. the rumors, i guess he had a new debate coach. i think wolf blitzer with his feet planted in stone last night continuing that line of questioning. >> wolf blitzer was immovable. don't mess with wolf blitzer. >> his name is wolf. what are you going to do? >> your name is wolf blitzer. don't mess with him. before we go, i want to play a

moment from the debate that stuck with me. i want to know whether it's possible mitt romney didn't know about this ad. here it is. >> i haven't seen the ad, so i' sorry, i don't get to see all the tv ads -- did he say that? i doubt that's my ad, but we'll take a look and find out. there are a bunch of ads that are being organized by people, but i think our position on english is the same. >> that ad was from -- i mitt romney approve this ad. is it possible he didn't know about it? >> it's absolutely possible. they would have cut that disclaimer early in the process. campaigns are large, complex moving pieces. it's very possible that he didn't know about the ads sisters and tep mother comes "outfront." and dr. sanjay gupta joins us with a look at concussions.

was it a horrific murder or tragic accident in that is the decision tonight. three family members are charged with committing four honor murders. he and his wife and son are accused of killing his three teenage daughter, his other wife, their mother. the three girls and their stepmother were found dead in their car in a canal in kingston, ontario. it appeared to be an accidental drowning, but police were suspicion and it led prosecutors to charge the three with first degree murder. jurors heard from 58 witnesses and examined evidence. evidence that patrick mccann calls weak and circumsubstantial.

why are you convinced your client's innocent? >> well, i -- i think the real issue here comes down to as you said, a tragic accident or was it something horrific. the horrific part of it sort of depends on a lot of other sort of incidental evidence, but the real issue comes down to what happened. for it to be an honor killing, which is the prosecution position, there has to be a murder and you know, the scenario they're presenting just sort of doesn't stand up. doesn't make sense. involves -- >> the scenario they're presenting, i'll give everyone a summary an correct me if i'm wrong, that they were found with

some bruises. obviously, drowned in their car in the canal. seemed to be an accident at first, but then they found a headlight from the car that hamid and his father and mother were driving and that they think they twil literally in that car, pushed the other car into the canal, leaving that headlight behind was part of the proof in evidence this was a murder. >> yeah, that's right. the problem with that scenario, there's no question there was an accident between them and there's no question of that, the the lux us which my client was driving and he's given an account of this, there was an accident and then the road that the girls were in turned right into the area where the canal is and went into the canal.

there's no question there was an accident there. the problem was he never called anybody, never told anybody about it, so as soon as the police found this out, went on a murder investigation. >> is it possible the father could have done it, not the son? some of the quotes when the police wiretapped the car were horrific, obviously. he said if i could do it again, i'd do it again. they were whores. talking about his daughters. >> i think you've got to put that into context and understand the way people talk. we've called expert evidence on usage in afghanistan and the way men talk in afghanistan and swear words that are used there versus here. some of the stuff, once it's translated into english, it sounds horrific, but it's common usage. some of the things in there, the devil made them do stuff on their grave is equivalent roughly to somebody saying to

hell with. it's pretty innocuous. you've got to understand that getting back to the scenario, it involves some how or other the car gets hung up on the edge of canal. >> okay. >> and pushing it into canal. all the time, the four women are sitting there not doing anything, so the crown -- they have to come up with some sort of theory they were drowned ahead of time. but that's phenomenal when you think of taking four women, one at a time. >> thank you very much for coming out front and giving your angle on the story. more than 100 million people are going to be watching the super bowl and people have a lot of fun, but for the players, the next big hit could be ats trosk.

a lot of these men end up with real hits to their lives, for the rest of their lives because of playing football. and today, we're taking a closer look at these collisions on the field. dr. sanjay gupta's documentary appears on cnn 8:00 on sunday. here's a preview. >> i remember getting hit hard. that actually rang my bell. >> for the first three week, a headache. >> the trainer was asking me questions, i was answering them all wrong. >> there are a few impacts that simulate a car crash. >> he does have symptoms of a concussion. >> i parent came to you and said, coach, my kid wants p to play football. but i need you to tell me he's going to be safe. >> i can't guarantee that. >> you've done so much reporting on this. 3.5 million athletes in the country get sports related concussions every year. i find that shocking and how much of a long-term effect do

these things have? >> i think for a long time, people sort of anecdotely thaukt those hits look hard, like they're bad, but we didn't have the evidence of what it was doing to the brain. 650 hits to the brain is the average a high school player takes every season. and we know over time, that that can cause something known as chronic ensolve think. changes in the brain that occur in these players as a result of many, many hits to the brain. they were looking for these things. they had to make that tough call the favorite shows growing up. i am coming clean on this. >> well, i was like 2 years old, kyra, but sure. >> it is okay. i'm older than you.

the strength of the neck muscles. playing soccer for example, a boy playing soccer, a girl playing soccer. girls get more concussions than boys but for a long time they didn't pay attention to girls getting concussions more. it's a very valid point. >> sanjay, a whole lot more, obviously sanjay's special tonight, 8:00 on cnn. and up next, the way you watch television changing forever, and the man behind it, our guest. lost your appetite for romance?

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so in the next few years, half of all american homes are going to be have web enabled televisions. and tonight's idea guest, ceo of vice who launched mtv are out to make it the way you watch out front. just five years ago, vice was a free magazine about tattoos and models.

now it's one of the largest youth driven media brands in the world, spanning 34 countries, projected worth, $1 billion. vice media has graduated from racy center folds to offbeat stories about the world's most infamous danger zones. >> let's go, let's go, let's go. >> reporter: labor camps in siberia, the heavy metal music scene in baghdad and the warlords like this guy. >> is that why you were called general buck naked. >> yes, because i fought buck naked. >> how are a bunch of hipsters in brooklyn giving tv a run for its money? vice is streamed over the internet. it doesn't hurt that vice has captured the most highly prized demographic in the industry. and vice has one more trick up its sleeve, tom press son, the

same formula preston used to launch mtv is now the formula for vice. giving young viewers what they want, when they want it. so there was -- the cover of the new yorker talking about youtube and that youtube is going to be television, that we're no longer going to be using our televisions. having bought a new l.e.d. television. >> plenty of people are going to continue to watch tv, but i do think that the youtube's new introduction of 100 channels is going to be sort of a tipping point for web video. more people are going to be able to use web video on web enabled sets and we'll be moving toward

the web as more and more content producers get a chance to come to the foreground. >> so this is in terms of content, and the cable provider loses which i think a lot of people would like. >> i think it could be a smart tv, it could be a phone, it could be a computer. it could be a hologram. everyone's spending money on the platform. but no one's spending money on what goes into the platform. so content that's made for mobile, content that's made for online, content that's made for smart tvs, that's the key. that's what it's been forgotten. we have 1900 contributors who are in 700 countries. >> what's the primary screen for a career in media?

>> i think the primary screen is going to be watching things for any length of time. and with web enabled tvs and web producers beginning to create longer and longer content, i still think that television will be the paramount place, but mobile, if you think about it worldwide, i mean china alone, has 800 million mobile users. so there's going to be an increase in technology and lots of people walking around the street looking in their telephones. >> it also depends on where you're talking. we just got back from india and india doesn't have a huge penetration for television or online. but they just got the 4g. so now they're going to sort of skip going from sort of newspapers -- >> they have so many newspapers in india. >> it's the biggest newspaper in the world, the biggest newspaper consumers and they're going to go straight from like 1,800 newspapers, boom, to 4g broadband consumption. so ihink mobile in asia and