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nothing is offlimits. >> i do want to run for office one day. >> "30 rock." >> you want me to get drunk and talk to a peacock. >> movie career. >> everybody says it is an honor to be nominated but you want to win. >> and that problem he had with words with friends. >> we could be playing a smart word game rather than watching episodes. >> and that'salic baldwialec ba.
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>>alic baldwin piers morgan interview starts now. >> life is pretty good. the man is at the top of his game, starring in "30 rock," making movies. he is never afraid to say what he thinks or to leave a plane. it is time for me to have words with a friend. welcome. >> thank you. good to see you. >> we are going to come to that remarkable moment of you live tweeting your own ejection from an airplane and your dramatic
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new appearance. for all the slightly chubbier end of the news market you have been the standard of how to be on camera. i see this new baldwin in front of me. you have ruined everything. >> earlier this year i realize that i work out all the time and i wasn't achieving the results i wanted to. i became aware of the fact that it is about what you eat and don't eat as it is exercising. i gave up eating sugar. that was a really, really big thing for me. >> we are going to come to this extraordinary transformation. let's talk with the state of the union. president obama made this big speech last night. some core things came out of this were that america remains a great country, that america remains a country that is revered around the world still. it can still be strong but must
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go back perhaps to basics, to manufacturing things. president obama said the following. >> during the great depression america built the hoover dam and the golden gate bridge. after world war ii we connected our states with a system of highways. democrat and republican administrations invested in great projects that benefitted everybody from the workers who built them to the businesses that use them today. >> that is the crux of the problem here. america has been in tough times before. we are not in the great depression now. we are in a recession. it is not as bad as it was in the 30s. the way america got out of the hole before was to build big things, to i guess inspire people at the same time as creating jobs. >> i think that the united states and i have said this kind of broad banner, i have waved this banner before in this
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conversation where i say america is great in direct proportion of when we do great things and when we fought wars and it was clear who our enemy was and they were people who needed to be stopped from their aggression and so forth. in the last several decades and since through the 60s and 70s and during this period in the middle east i'm not sure the wars we were fighting were the best idea and the amount of money and the amount of american lives. >> do you think that president obama is able to carry through? do you think he is going to start commissioning those dreamy inspirational projects which will get the whole world gasping ina awe? >> i'm hopeful that he will and that is based on the notion that presidents regardless of party
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have more flexibility or perceived flexibility in their second term because there is no possibility for reelection. many people play their cards pretty close to the vest and play a conciliatory game especially when the other party is in control of the congress in their first term and in the next term they let it rip and let it fly because they don't have to worry about running for office again. >> let me look at the republican candidates down to four. i have done your montage of greatest moments. >> sacrament of marriage is based on a man and woman, is at the core of our civilization. >> any type of sexual activity has no place in the military. >> we can start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon.
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i'm not in favor of spending that kind of money. >> how many people here would use heroin if it was legal? i need the government to take care of me. i don't want to use heroin so i need these laws. >> good time to be a comedian i would have thought. >> my friends who are comedians are certainly spelling it out that way. i think the republican party is in a tough place. i want to say this in kind of a nonpartisan way. i think the republican party is in a tough place. they seem to be mimicking the way the democrats were 30 years ago or so when the democrats were sorting out who the nominee was and they were battling in the primary period. when it was over they took their ball and went home. they didn't share the remaining coffers that they had from their campaign and donate it to the national party and donate it to the winning candidate.
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when they didn't win they got a little petulant and went home. the republicans seem to be running that program now. i have listened to gingrich on fox say things about romney which will be hard for gingrich to retract if romney is the nominee. king gingrich said the phrase dishonest and characterized romney as being a dishonest man. if romney is the nominee, how gingrich will back away from that statement i don't know how. >> it is also about the state of political discourse in america right now, not just between democrats and republicans but between republicans and republicans. once this battle gets through and once one of these guys takes on barack obama, all he has to play repeatedly is newt gingrich
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calling him dishonest. this man who wants to be president in the race is a dishonest man. as you say, i couldn't imagine a worst slur. >> what's happened now in the primary period and you have a very, very kind of strident group of people seeking the nomination for the republican party and you are having the fox news channel amplifying these statements on their behalf, you have a lot of anyone but obama rhetoric. you are going to hear this until the convention. but then that is going to end. and then you will have one man, presumably a man, unless there is a woman step forward. you are going to have one man running against obama and then it will become more real and then you will see obama listing. there is no point in obama running advertising now.
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then you will have an opponent and obama will begin to categoryize what he has accomplished. there are quite a few wonderful things that he has done. >> i get a sense that a lot of americans don't fully appreciate what obama has done for america's reputation abroad, for example. >> i agree with you. the war for all intents and purposes is over. the war in which we know it in which a large number of american soldiers men and women were in imminent danger on a daily basis in iraq. that's over. there are still people there. this is a hornet's nest that we kicked. i think that obama is responsible for finally bringing the bulk of our troops home. obama is responsible for stabilizing the economy. i look at the republican party and i look at men who are the
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standard bearers of wall street, not that obama is someone who has wall street money in his campaign. i look at people like romney, they ought to put romney's picture on monopoly money. the dow is in the high 12,000s now. i think obama has done wonderful things for this country. >> there will be people watching this saying he looks razor smart, lost a bit of weight and talking like a president. when you were given the chance to confirm if you would run for mayor of new york city you said you wouldn't. why wouldn't you? let's take a break and find out the answer. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want.
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speak for ten seconds without alunating your base? >> the conservative base needs to know rick perry stands with them 110%. i believe we need to lower the corporate tax rate and i believe
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all ten-year-old girls can be vaccinated for hpv so they can enter into meaningful relationships. >> alec baldwin on "saturday night live." . it seems like you get more pleasure from tormenting them politicly. >> it is interesting you say that. i was at work today. we were shooting today. everybody is in this frame of mind now as we are coming towards the end -- we have a half season to go and presumably some sort of season next year. we are never going to have it this good again. i really enjoy the opportunity to say that, that i will never, ever in my life no matter what happens, i will never have a job as good as the job i have now. that's a part of what makes me
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think about running for office or not running for office. i have friends of mine -- you know people in the political world and you know more of them and more than i ever will by virtue of your many positions in the media. the ones i know, very prominent people who i won't name, but some have held very high elective office and nearly all of them say don't do it. you can have just as much influence in certain areas from your vantage point now and so forth. i believe what i have been doing for the last 25 years i have been heavily involved periodically with campaign finance reform and antinuclear power in this country and several different issues, most of them environmentally linked. i don't have a government position. i don't have an office. i don't have a budget. i have to do all of this on my
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own and raise money. it has been a dream of mine to hold office so i would have some of the power to do some of the things and try to create some of the reforms that i have wanted to do. >> it seems to me this is not something you have completely ruled out. you have not decided to go for new york mayor at the moment. could that change in the future? >> that's a possibility. i mean, the only reason i say that is because right now the time table i'm on career-wise, contracts i have signed would make running for mayor, for example, very, very difficult. is it something i could do? possibly. i see people running for mayor to be plain speaking who i'm indifferent about. there are a couple of them if they made certain changes they'd be okay. there are certain people running for mayor that i'm appalled that
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they are running for mayor and being taken seriously because of some of their past actions. >> when you see someone like arnold schwarz nager run for governor of california you would think you could do that. >> thatset a place where they have the kind of hysterical referendum procedure and thap ousted davis. the whole path that led if you know the story of isza and the way that they deposed gray davis, that path and how it opened up the door for schwarzeneggar was an unusual set of circumstances. i do want to run for office one day. what it would be and when and how is is still something i'm trying to think seriously about
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because i'm not done doing what i'm doing now. i have a couple more years of this work i want to do on the drawing board. and in political world two years is an eternity. who ever thought that spitser would resign or hillary would run for the senate. who would have thought hillary would leave the senate to be the secretary of state in the obama administration. there are so many things that happened in the political world in the course of two years, in that amount of time i'll survey it again. in new york where i live we have safe democratic seats around the horn, so to speak. it's the governor and the ag. so what i would run for and when would be something i'd have to give a lot of thought to. in the meantime, i have a job i
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love. >> a job that we love you doing so there is no hurry. when you look at somebody like newt gingrich and schwarzeneggar and you see personal stuff being used to hammer them to the ground, would you be concerned about that? >> i would be concerned about that. i would be very concerned. not so much for myself because -- for example, to me the most handy example of that is this phone message i love for my daughter. that has been thrown at me by political opposition and people who want to do that kind of diminishing of your political opinion by bringing in these other things. my relationship with my daughter is normal. by that i mean i'm a father with a 16-year-old daughter. and i communicate with my daughter as often and as effectively as any 53-year-old man can with a 16-year-old
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daughter. i worship my daughter. >> you tweet her. >> i worship my daughter. we get along fine. that situation was something in which a certain group of people wanted to create a very, very sensational news story there. the truth of the matter is that i have two things. one is that i have worked in this kind of silly and childish world of comedy and "saturday night live." it has been funny. the day you run for office you have to say everything i was doing then for the most part was entertainment value. a lot of what i have done has been kind of nonsense for entertainment purposes. >> has part of you always -- and
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be honest, has part of you harbored the possibility that you could one day run for the presidentsy? >> that is something i used to think about. it would be a little late in the game for me, i think, to set my ship on a course that would lead to that ultimately. it is something that that is what i wanted to do my whole life and when i got into the business i'm in now it was a very, on a personal level, this is a very personal thing and i have said this on a couple of occasions, it was a job that i got and i wasn't sure that this is what i wanted to do. i still had this hangover of wanting to do something else in public policy or to get my graduate degree or go to law school. there was a menu of things i was contemplating. then i got a job in this business and i got the sense that i was on a bit of a role that i would have work.
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i had no shortage of opportunities. i did it for the money. i did it to support my family. i'm not complaining. i'm very happy with the way it's gone. in this business it's funny, you do this for a living and you talk to people all the time. i have my radio show. and you see how when you get in this zone with someone that you really like and you are really engaged you can talk to them for two and three hours. we need to order sushi and have dinner together. and it's become such -- in this business, the real thrill for me, the real joy, the thing that has made me happyiest are the people i have met and gotten to work with. it is not just the actors although there are innumerable actors like tony hopkins.
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i cried the day they told me, i was on vacation, when they told me i was going to make a film with tony who i admired at the highest level. >> amazing crew. >> the business is a huge collaborative colony. and i'm so grateful for the people i've been able to work with. let's take a break and come back and talk about the oscars. i also want to talk to you about a few words you had with some ex-friends. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. now it's quicker and easier for you to start your business... protect your family... and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com, we put the law on your side. and launch your dreams. this was the gulf's best tourism season in years. all because so many people came to louisiana... they came to see us in florida... make that alabama... make that mississippi.
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al > > alic i have people that were nominated that i was excited about and some that i was maybe perplexed by, if you will. i do know that to climb that mountain as you know observing this business to climb the mountain and to complete that cycle where you get the script and the movie gets made and you shoot it and the distribution works and marketing works and people buy some tickets. and then you get that buzz.
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and then the votes come in and you are nominated it is a great thrill. i see george and brad and people who have made a lot of films. my hat is off to them. that's a tough, tough thing to pull off. i was nominated for an oscar for supporting actor in 2004. i lost to tim robins. i remember everybody said it was an honor to be nominated. you do want to win. i would have been so grateful. i'm happy for tim and i admire tim. i saw a bunch of great films. i loved rooney mara. this woman is hypnotic on film. i saw "money ball." . i thought jonah hill was fantastic. there is a lot of wonderful films. i do think this idea that they
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have expanded the best picture category in this way was not such a good idea. and i do hope they go back to just five nominees because i do think it is kind of a way that they are kind of gaming the promotional equity of the nominations. now people who are nominated will have a full 60 days to market that film and say it's an academy award nominated best picture film. i hope they go back to just five nominees. >> i always like it when what i call proper stars win the big awards. the reason i say that is i reckon and i'm not an expert. i reckon that the two best performances i have seen this year were george clooney in "the
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descendants" and meryl streep. >> to the extent that the oscars, sometimes those votes swing in a very wide track. they will honor someone for their career and hand them a career achievement award even though their particular work might not have been their best work or the best work in that category. they are going to want to honor someone who they deeply admire and might not have a chance to do so again. and then there is someone who is like a hood ornament for hollywood glamour, someone they think is a great star. and then there is someone who is not going to make a lot of movies, but they are going to give them -- when beneny won that moment when he was climbing over the people in the audience, he didn't go on to make a lot of
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films in the united states. sometimes the academy decides they are going to stick that thing in the hand of the person with the performance. >> this guy is getting paid millions of dollars to do this. i was watching "it's complicated" what was she like to work with? she is to me the best actress alive today. what was she like? >> i mean, i'm not going to say anything fresh or new that hasn't been said by countless other men. she has worked with the greatest leading men of the last 25 or 30 years and made some of the greatest films. for me it was a question of bp yond the kind of sex play of the two characters where it was a
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man who missed his wife on a chemical level. i kept saying to nancy when we were working was to point out that my character was still in love with his wife. he still loved her. it wasn't just that he wanted to sleep with her and missed having sex with her, he was still deeply in love with her. meryl is easy to fall in love with and easy to play love scenes with because you fall in love with her the moment you lay eyes on her. she is a great person. we are going to get to air travel this time. i want to know what happened on that plane and why the airline is now an ex-friend. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. if you have painful, swollen joints, i've been in your shoes. one day i'm on top of the world... the next i'm saying... i have this thing called psoriatic arthritis.
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plane a couple of weeks ago. when i heard that news story my first reaction, the thing that i was upset about was last spring, like seven months ago i said there is this fun game called "words with friends." you should get it. i was like you should get it. i didn't think he got it because he has never invited me to play him. >> tina fey on the late show. introducing my guest, alec baldwin to words with friends. was it really tina's fault? >> of course not.
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my advice to people is when you get on a plane, turn off your phone. try with all your strength. >> you don't mean that. >> i do mean that. you don't want to have happen to you what happened to me. >> tell me -- >> there were some extenuating circumstances. i had flown for years where there seemed to be in the first class cabin a bit of a more relaxed environment while the plane was at the gate. we were at the gate. i want to also mention because i am a stickler about this. the flight was 45 minutes late. the plane was late prior to anything that had happened. i don't think they can really pin all that on me and my cell phone. i was on this plane. all of a sudden i was in the presence of the rules changing and we are going to have a soviet level of enforcement of
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the rules, if you will, in an instance. it was done with no quarter. it was done brutally. this woman was very harsh and very, very snappy. i reacted badly to that. i got very upset. and then i was asked to get off the plane and get on another plane. and to the extent that i inconveneianced anybody else on the flight i am very sorry. most people are aware that these rules about this stuff while on the ground or certainly at the gate, these rules are kind of stupid, but it is still something you have to do. just turn the phone off while in flight. >> you are on this plane. how are you feeling as this woman is giving you this lecture? other people around you presumably knew it was you.
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how are you feeling? embarrassed? angry? >> i was very ema barressed and upset. first of all, the joke obviously when i got off the plane was there were four other guys twittering from their cell phones as i was getting kicked off the plane for using my cell phone. i have heard a lot of people say that's a weak defense to say everybody else was doing it. they do have a point. i do feel this woman had kind of marched directly at me and towards me and singled me out. maybe she is kind of a christian conservative republican who is on the payroll there. she was very ardent. she was very tough and she really, really came at me with everything she had. she was pretty blistery. the truth of the matter is that in the end turn your phone off when you are on the plane. >> if american airlines spent
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more time on that flight apologizing to you as a paying first class regular passenger for the inconveneiance of being kept waiting 45 minutes rather than focussing on a harmless game you are plague then perhaps they wouldn't be in the bankrupt position. >> i'll let you say that. >> i just did. >> american airlines is in bankruptcy, it is in a lot of trouble and i feel bad. i flew with them exclusively for 20 years. every now and then i would work for somebody who had a deal with united or another company. i can see where maybe the people working at the airline are under a lot of pressure because they are not sure of their job security. >> part of it, i'm afraid, it does come down to customer service. you have to look after your clients. would you fly american again?
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>> i guess if they gave us -- if they gave us a device on board that we could play words with friends while we were flying on the plane with other people on the plane. play words with friends with other people on board. cress seat cj or 41 f. i think that is a superidea. we can be playing a smart word game rather than watching episodes of nbc sitcoms all the time. >> the trouble was hugely entertaining and brings me to another great love of yours which is twitter. the most devastating fallout for me was you went off of twitter for a month. you name it.
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me. the writing is so good. we have such great writers. they give you the scripts. every week i get the scripts and i go you got to be kidding me. you want me to what? you want me to get drunk and talk to a peacock. my boss has entered the body of a peacock. you want me to play this patty duke twin character where i talk to myself in the scene. the stuff they had me do has been insane but fun. >> it is a fantastic show. do you get more or less fun from twitter than "30 rock?" >> most fun with "30 rock," but twitter was a direct way and a very kind of concise way to communicate directly with your
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fans. so much of what people do is stuff like this where we talk to a producer and work out a time and a segment and your staff was very, very kind and very, very kind of cooperative with me to try to make this happen at a certain time and everything. but doing this with filtering who you are through a television show which is more direct but even more difficult is a magazine, twitter removes that and it is you writing what you want to write directly to people instantly. i was very fond of that possibility. then i realized that talking to people on twitter might not be a good idea because a lot of people want to just attack you and want to wrestle with you and want to -- >> the great thing about you, alec, is you are very visceral and raw. you get sucked in and you retweet the abuse and abuse them
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back. >> i love getting down in the mud with them and wrestling in the mud with them. i see that you kind of give as good as you get. i love that. i thought to myself i'm going to stop and hit the reset button here and come back on twitter and have a different program where the people who come on who attack you in a very vulgar way, for example, that there is no thought behind it. people say to me, i think your stance against nuclear power is idiotic because then i'll retweet that and discuss that. people who say i would like to beep you in your beep because you're a beeping beep then i delete them. i block them. >> it is quite fun, though, although it is rather addictive. >> it can be. it is because you love to communicate. and you want to communicate something smart and relevant. you want to widdle it down and
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get down to the core, to the marrow of what really matters and focus people's attention to things that are important and matter. god knows we live in a culture where there is a lot that doesn't matter. i like twitter. >> you're great entertainment. if anyone is not following you are@alec baldwin. let's come back and talk love. i want to talk to you about your love life. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money ? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense.
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time now with my special guest, alec baldwin, i have to congratulate because you have had a checkered past romantically in many ways and you have finally found a woman who is a yoga expert who has transformed you physically, someone who has never watched "30 rock" and doesn't own a television. this is the perfect woman for you, isn't it? >> yeah. it's funny because it is true what people always say and it is tough to make your way to that place where you stop looking. i was married and with somebody for ten years.
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and then after i got divorced i dated people and i had one girlfriend for several years. right before i met elarria i did lay in my bed and say i am going to be alone for the rest of my life. i'm going to die alone in this apartment and this bed. i'll have my friends. i'll have twitter. i'll have words with friends and my new yorker subscription. i'll have my table. i have my quiet manhattan life. and then right when i put it all on the shelf and it was over and i met this woman who is probably one of the greatest people i met as a person, forget about the man/woman thing. have you ever been properly in love? i was instructed by your staff to pose this very question to
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you. >> i have been properly in love. and i was about to ask you, how many times you have been properly in love in your life? >> the past is just a blur to me, now. it's all just a blur. now is the time. now is all that matters. the woman i'm with currently is the only woman i've ever been in love with. everything else was just child's play before now. i wasn't properly in love. >> you actually do a brilliant british accent. >> not really. i don't. i'm very, very happy. and i have a great line. i'm going to quote tony bennett. tony is married to susan. he is a few years older than susan. i went to tony's school to visit the frank sinatra high school. his wife is a wonderful partner
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of his. i said i'm dating a woman who is younger than i am. she is a lot younger than i am. i sometimes think about that and i know you're with susan and you are a bit older than her. he says people say that to me all the time and i say to them consider the alternative. i want to thank tony for that perspective. you have a baby, correct? you have a child? >> two months ago. >> how long ago? >> two months ago. >> you have a two month old baby. you are very spry and perky for a man with a two month old child. does she sleep well? >> she does. would you like to have more kids? >> that would be fantastic. i would be, as my friend said to
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me, when you have children typically in a second marriage, when you are older and you get married again to a woman who would have children you must always remember that they attend a college where the commencement ceremonies are held in a facility with a wheelchair accessible ramp. >> i have to ask you this, alec. outside of children and marriage, what has been the single greatest moment of your life, the moment that if i could relive it for you now you would ask me to relive it? >> there's a few of them. there's quite a few of them. i think that i would drias driv the car. i had travelled around the western part of the state of massachusetts in 1994 to campaign for teddy kennedy's reelection. and his nephew, ethel kennedy's
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son was my in-state coordinator of activities. i went to massachusetts for four consecutive four-day weekends to cover all of these community colleges and different stops. we covered a lot of ground and tweent a lot of small venues. it was presumed that kennedy had the boston democratic vote in his pocket. we went to western mass. when we were done we were driving back to town for me to jump on a plane. we were driving across the state to go to logan and fly home. and the phone rang. i was in a van with the late michael kennedy who died. it was teddy kennedy called me. he said i want you to know that if i win this race you are partly responsible for that. you put your brick in the wall of my campaign and i will never be able to repay you or thank
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you. i felt like i was going to cry because i worked so hard to try to puff my little wind into the sails of teddy's campaign. people were saying he was going to lose that race. >> fantastic moment. it has been a real pleasure. we straddled almost every divide imaginable. you're an ambassador for the sag foundation. >> the sag awards are on sunday this weekend. and the foundation is they are nonforprofit arm which does a lot of work for human resources for members of the screen actors guild. every year i'm assuming there is a new ambassador to present a check that has been raised for their efforts. i'm very, very proud to have that