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right there. our special coverage of the florida primary begins here, 6:00 p.m. eastern. we'll see you then. a preview of the big night in florida. until tomorrow, you enjoy yourself. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. a senator plans to introduce legislation that would put an extra tax on millionaires. hours away from the florida primary, we've got a new poll showing romney's up big, but newt may have a shot. and the man hunt ends. a mississippi murderer has been found in wyoming. let's get "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett and "outfront" tonight, we have breaking news. rhode island senator sheldon
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whitehouse announces tonight he'll introduce a warren buffett rule bill in the senate. first touted by president obama in his state of the union last week, the bill would require those earns more than a million dollars to pay at least 30% in taxes. that's an effective rate. the marginal rate would be 44%. he comes "outfront" tonight. we appreciate you taking the time, sir. thank you very much. >> it's good to be with you. >> a lot of people say this bill isn't going to go anywhere. you're going to get fights from republicans. millionaire's taxes didn't pass in the senate last year despite the democrats there. is this really a move for a political headline or something you think will actually pass? >> i think there's a good chance that it can pass. if it has difficulty on its own, bear in mind at the end of this year, all of the bush tax cuts expire and that's going to motivate everybody in washington to rethink tax policy.
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it doesn't make any common sense to have people making say a quarter of a billion dollars a year paying a lower tax rate than their plumber does. >> do you think that, the question about the bush tax cuts, because they are scheduled to go away at the end of the year. that would mean marginal rates go up. did you get the same thing by waiting or do you want to raise those rates ooen higher than they would when bill clinton was president? >> theory, the rates for high income earners are supposed to be 35%. in the booming clinton economy, it was 39%. my legislation would put a minimum 30% floor on for people who have earned more than a million dollars in that particular year. so it basically is a way to make sure that whatever loopholes there is in the tax code, you
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pay a minimum close to the statutory rate of the 35, 38%. >> one thing i've been curious about, the president sees this as an issue of fairness, but i don't understand where the 30% rate comes from. it's 44% marginal. how did you pick that number as fair? what was the math and intellectual fairness question? >> we were looking at a couple of different numbers, but when the president said 130%, there was no point opening up air space. that was one of the ones we had been looking at. it is close to what in theory really high-end income earner rs supposed to pay. the 35 or 39.6. it allows some room so people giving big donations can still get credit for it without having that rubbed out and allows some wiggle room, but if the intention is to people in this
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country who earn that kind of money are supposed to pay 35%, 30 is pretty close to that, again, leaving a little room, because it is intended to be a minimum. but it's a lot better than the folks say in the helmsly building, who on average pay 14.7%, which is less than their door man and janitors pay. >> would you let corporations not pay taxes on the dividends then and i ask because it's important. it's not just wealthy people that get dividends. it's retired americans. who also will be hurt by capital gains rates going up as they do urn the president's plan. >> well, they won't be affected by this plan unless they are taking in more than a million dollars a year in capital gains and dividends and in that case, i think they should pay the taxes that everybody intended, which is 35% and this 30% floor will help close up some of the loophol loopholes.
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>> so, will you fight the president when he wants to increase capital gains so the retirees don't have to have that increase? >> i think we're going to have to do a comprehensive bill that addresses that. it's supposed to go up to i think 23%. >> that's right. >> at the end of the year. and you know, it needs to be balanced overall and i'm not going to fixate on any one part of it, but i believe it's an important part to make sure the people who we have agreed are supposed to be paying 35 or 39%, don't have a lot of loopholes, less than their plumber, secretary, truck driver. >> right. now, just to make the point, the effective rate, experts have told us, would be 44%. not 35 or 39. 44, maybe something people are fine with, but you raised something that made me want to ask this. i've got mitt romney's tax return. take this multiplied by 145 and
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you get 72,536. isn't the problem not to mess with the rate here or there, but to throw out the whole thing, come up with the fair amount for everyone to pay? >> this would semp fi things a lot because all the gimmicks that blow up people's tax filings into big, fat packages really aren't useful if you have a 30% minimum. i think this is actually a step in favor. >> not just another amt? >> i will say, you know, americans spend 6 billion person hours a year complying with this tax code. and simplification is a very important goal and i think will help make it fairer, but i think most americans are really fed up with how unfair is tax code is and how it gives so much in the way of goodies to people who have the resources to take advantage of its loopholes.
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>> i think everyone would agree. the system is so broke and in washington, there doesn't seem to be a lot of frankly, courage, to throw the system out. mess around the edges, but leave the 72,000 pages in place. >> i hope we get that and i hope the january 1st, 2013 date provides a motivation. >> thank you very much. and you just heard him give that story. and a billion dollar election. a very small number of people have a lot of influence. they're the donors to the super pacs and tomorrow, we may find out a lot more. john avenlon and ken, let me stt with you. i was looking through the last disclosures, which were since last summer, frankly a little absurd. what are we going to hear tomorrow? >> well, hopefully, what we're
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going to see are contributions to all these super pacs and all the presidential campaigns through the end of last year. now, that leaves rather a big hole because as you mentioned, there's been a lot of action since we saw the last report and even more of it in this month alone. when many of the major contributors really opened their wallets and checkbooks to write huge checks to some of these super pacs and we're not going to see those contributions because they don't fall within the reporting period. however, what we will see are a number of large contributions to mitt romney's super pac, which has spent upwards of $17 million, mostly on ads attacking newt gingrich and we're going to see a lot of money into that, including a lot from the financial industry i imagine. possibly new names, folks who probably wanted chris christie to run and were disappointed when he didn't. >> it's interesting looking even john avlon through last summer,
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private equity guys. bob perry behind swift-boats, he was on there. but you were going to get the chris christie guys. >> sure. the the super rich go to the super pacs because they can have maximum impacts. because disclosures lack, there isn't the kind of transparency we were promised to go with these infusions of cash. they have put a finger on the scale that can change momentum very, very quickly. it's very a distorting impact on our democracy. >> and we're not going to see sheldon adelson, the guy giving perhaps the largest political contributions of all time, isn't going to show up, right? >> that's right. because his contributions came in january and came in large part if you talk to people around that super pac and who are familiar with him and his giving, they say they came because he saw his long time friend, newt gingrich, getting absolutely savaged by ads from this pro mitt romney super pac,
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restore our future, and he felt he had to come off the sidelines and open up his checkback in a big way. we've heard $10 million, 5 million from his wife and that's probably just the start of thiz things because newt gingrich wants to take this campaign through the convention and with the help of wealthy ben factors, name sheldon adelson and his wife, he is able to do. >> and what's significant is this avalanche of negative ads we've seen. certainly in florida, 15 million is going to be spent by romney in this state. we've seen in florida, amazing statistic i just got. i spoke to a guy named rich goldstein who heads up an organization that tracks the spending. he told me that 93% of the ads in florida alone have been negative. >> shocking. >> that is an extraordinary new statistic and the bulk has come from these super pacs.
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>> i have to say, i chuckled and enjoy hearing some of the campaigns start to complain about those super pacs are not helping them out because you're too nasty. you've got to be careful what you wish for. thanks to both of you. right now, nuclear inspectors on the ground in iran. are they going to find anything? could it lead to a war? tas real question in this election season. and a michigan mother found strangled in her mercedes. was it a random murder or did she know her killer? and facebook rolling out a new timeline. we're going to explain why this has so many people very, very concerned. passport?
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buster bomb strong enough to destroy iran's nuclear facilities. they're working on one. it will be a 30,000 pound bomb. with tehran threatening to destroy israel and building up its navy and gulf, it's time to launch a preemptive strike. joining us now, retired air force colonel, good to have you with us. matthew, let me start with you. if based on the position that you believe that iran was close to obtaining a nuclear weapon and leon panetta saying they could within a year possibly, why would you think a strike might make sense and how would it work? >> i'd be delighted if the current policy could work, but it's unlikely to convince iran
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to give up its program. that means in the future, the united states is likely to be faced with a difficult choice or conducting a military strike designed to prevent that from happening. a strike is a least bad option. would be costly to deter an deterrence might fail. on the other hand, united states could destroy iran's facilities and the consequences could be managed and be less bad than a nuclear iran. >> could the consequences be managed without the way most of us conceive a war, troops on the ground? >> i'm afraid not. and here's the problem with the idea of going to war at this particular moment in time. we militarily as you mentioned in your earlier set up for this piece, are not ready for it yet.
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the bunker buster bomb, the 30,000 pound mop, is a very -- >> oh, mop. that's the akronim. >> a very good weapon, but still in a testing phase and not ready t to do the type of damage we need. you need to totally eliminate the nuclear threat, but if you do that, you can't, you have to be assured you've gotten everything and unfortunately, we cannot be assured that we have taken care of the -- that we would be able to take care of every single element of the iranian nuclear system. they've got quite a system of underground bunkers, of tunnels. they have quite a system of command and control facilities and defenses to protect those, so it's a very, very tough job and quite frankly, i would have to say we're not ready yet and it's unfortunate, but we have to live within the reality of that
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fact. >> matthew, what do you think about that? the facilities are under ground, we're not able to launch a strike. >> that's not right. the department of defense received delivery in november, so they are ready to go and could destroy these facilities, so natons facility as you point out is buried and hardened. under about 75 feet of dirt and concrete, where as the pen trart can penetrate up to 200 feet. so there's a lot of confusion ond what israel can do. the united states has greater capabilities and we could destroy even these buried and hardened facilities. >> colonel, we remember when colin powell had the quote, unquote evidence of iraqis moving things around, right? that was supposed to be
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evidence, but turned out to be inaccurate and untrue. so, what -- how are we really going to know what iran is doing? because you don't want to be too late and be wrong, but certainly, america doesn't seem to have a the will to take a leap of faith. >> we have to be right. that's the precise issue we're dealing with here. intelligence by its very nature is an improvised science and art and because of that fact, there are a lot of things that come out in these types of deliberations. when we look at going to war, we have to be very certain about that commitment. because quite frankly, we have to be careful that the iranian don't draw us into something they want. they have a much more really th theocratic way of looking at things. it's an approach we don't share. and because of that, it would be very, very dangerous to be drawn
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into a struggle with iran before we're ready for it. in the massive ordnance penetrator has been delivered to the department of defense, but they probably will need even better bombs besides the massive ordnance penetrator to do the job and that is going to be the key element that we have to work with in this particular case. >> thanks very much to both of you. got to be one of the worst ever. mop is hardly what comes to mind when you think of what that thing is capable of. but everyone, tweet me and let me know if preemptive strike would make sense. the winner take all sunshine state primary is away. and there's another big event around the super corner. the super bowl. we're going to tell you a number of things that you probably don't know about it. me what i . our science teacher helped us build it.
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that many pizzas away for free as part of their con toss promotion. but that's only about half the number of pizzas that pizza hut expected to sell. they plan to use 1200 tons of dough, 900 gallons of sauce to create more than 2 million pizzas. during the game, americans are expected to consume about 4,000 tons of popcorn. starts to make you feel sick, doesn't it? 14 thousand tons of chips and get ready, just think about the other end. one billion chicken wings. you know, chickening, they were f flying around. tonight's number. 20. according to 7-11 sales, sales of tums go up 50% before super bowl. still "outfront," the "outfront 5." tracked down. >> out there is how we ended up
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sheldon whitehouse announces he'll introduce a warren buffett bill which would require those earning more than $1 million to pay 40% marginal. >> i think there's a good chance it can pass. if it has difficulty passing on its own, you know, bear in mind that at the end of this year, all tax cuts expire and that's going to motivate everybody in washington to rethink tax policy. >> the senator also said he believes the bill would help simplify the tax code, which is hold on, 72,000 something pages long. it's all just rounding right? two, the u.s. senate e voted to discuss legislature to prevent insider trading. the vote, 93-2.
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both republicans and democrats in congress have expressed support. the house said today it would consider the bill in coming weeks. three americans have taken ref fuji unlg in cairo. however, officials tell cnn they don't believe they're in danger. u.s. citizens can seek refuge in an embassy if they feel their lives are in danger. one of the americans has been prevented from leaving and is in fear he may be arrested. the son of ray lahood. four, facebook has started switching over its users to a new layout called timeline. the feature shows your facebook experience since you joined the site. one tells users that they should use the period to preview their timeline and take that
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opportunity, young people, to remove the picture of you doing a keg stand or something else, rig right? get rid of it while you can. the other option would be not join facebook. it is been 178 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. new data shows spending was flat in december, but incomes rose by the most in nine months. the savings rate rose to 4%. less than 24 hours from now, we could be learning which candidate won the florida primary. 7:32 eastern, we might be able to give you an indication. more than 632,000 people in florida have already voted. that's more than the total number of people who voted in south carolina's primary. florida is a much different state. it is a huge state. but in ways that might surprise you, it's sort of different. john avlon is "outfront" to tell us the three myths about florida
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voters. >> there's nothing traditional about the sunshine state. first of all, it's the senior citizens rule. the land of early bird specials. retirement communities, but the fact is, only 17% of the sate is senior citizens. that's just above the national average. around 22% of the state's population is under 18. so this is nowhere near that ster stereotype of retirement central. gainesville and tallahassee, the youngest cities. >> wow. okay. already had me there. myth number two. >> the cubans. this is rooted in reality. after castro took over cuba, bunch of cubans fled to southern miami and that is still a stronghold. presidential candidates in the republican primary pay hammage to that community, but the
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state's character has changed. cubans only make up a third of the state's total hispanic population. beneath that, puerto ricans. mexicans, dominicans and others. >> look at other. that's amazing. >> latin america. central america. you get that major -- this is a stable place for those communities to invest their money, raise their families. so you have a different dynamic. overall, more hispanics are democratic than republican. >> i guess that would fit with many stereotypes. number three, the typical florida voter, you've gotten rid of the hispanic, the senior citizens. >> there is no. that's the big reveal. it's ten media markets. this state is so different. the whole red state blue state, this is red state, blue state and swing state combined. in the north from panhandle to jacksonville, that's really the part of the deep south that's
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part of alabama and georgia. you get to the middle of the state, the i-4 corridor, from space coast to orlando, a lot of families moving in. in the southern part of the state, northeasten transplant trends to tend democratic. >> i like it's not red or blue. it's red, white and blue. truly american. there you go. multiple polls in florida show mitt romney with a lead. but that has not kept either candidate from attacking the other one. >> he's been flailing around a bit trying to go after me and you just watch it and shake your head. it's been kind of painfully revealing to watch, but i think the reason he isn't doing so well is because of those last two debates, don't you think? >> the reason i seemed flat in the last debate is i have never seen a candidate for president
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that methodically dishonest. >> all right, is florida a sure thing for mitt romney or not? what does this say about the road ahead? that is the crucial question. ryan, jamal simpsons joins us -- i know, you disclosed it. it's not like you're trying t to -- he gets all the delegates. what does this really do to the math? is this sort of the king make or state as so many think it is? >> it is a pifltal momentum state. you need 1044 delegates to get the republican nomination. right now, mitt romney has just over 30. so if he gets that 50 delegates, that's a big boost, but you're still only 10% o the way there, which is why newt and rick santorum saying they're going to go all the way, they've got a credible case to make. >> john makes a fair point in
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terms of the math, but perception links to money raising, to whether these people can put their you know, money where their mouths are and stay in the race. >> i think that's right. something dramatic could happen that could drain a lot of support out of mitt romney, but my sense is that if mitt romney wins by a substantial margin, the donors are going to lose all enthusiasm for the other candidates and there's going to be a desire to consolidate around the eventual nominee and that's going to make it tough for the other candidates. >> six contests in february. you've got nevada and michigan, missouri's a little messed up, but still counts in there. sorry. colorado. you name it. so, let's just, what happens in those? >> this is a -- a lighter caucus state. some are primaries and really, it's all lead up to super tuesday in early march where you've got ten states voting.
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but the point is, give candidates a chance to try to coales. maybe some will drop out. but we have these contests. we've spent nine months leading up to elections. we're one month in. there's still february and march to go and then, it starts being all in and that's when you're going to see. >> jamal, how much does this make you have some flashbacks? to the hillary, barack battle a few years ago? >> yeah, it's the hillary, barack obama battle. it was a long, drawn out ground war it seemed like. for mitt romney, his hope is he's got to win big, but for newt gingrich, march 6th is going to be a big day for him. on march 6th, georgia primary, which is where he's from. tennessee, texas. a bunch of states that he should do pretty well in because a lot of them are in the south and if he scores big in those states, mitt romney will have to contend with the fact that somebody's coming at him and meanwhile, let's not forget about ron paul. ron paul has these dedicated
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volunteers and organizers particularly in caucus states really organizes to get him some states. so you might have a muddle going into april. >> but these dreams your party has, it's a little obsessive. >> you're totally right. in terms of what john is saying, it would be great to have a real race if it were a real clash of ideas. if it were rick santorum versus mitt romney, the social conservative versus those mainstream greenwich, connecticut. if it's ron paul versus the republican mainstream, but if it's mitt romney and newt gingrich, it's -- i'm sorry, that's not a real race. this is not a clash of ideas of ridiculous. >> that's hard stuff. >> hillary clinton, barack obama, that was a real race.
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blue collar versus the liberal. >> let's say rick santorum and ron paul stay in. you have a clash of ideas. there are deep divisions and they should get a chance to run them out. >> this is a really good point because in the hillary clinton versus barack obama fight, they were fighting each other to get to the center. who can win white middle class voters. in this contest, it's a fight to the right. they're trying to figure out who can win tea party, evangelical voters. that sort of thing. it's a very different contest, which i'm not sure will do mitt romney any favors. >> right. that's a fair point. thanks to all three. track down how authorities found a convicted murderer weeks after he was pardoned. this man found thousands of miles away and a woman found murdered in her mercedes. who sprinkled her? am today. our science teacher helped us build it.
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a tragic death remains a mystery in gross point park, michigan. jane basharo was found strangled to death in the backseat of her car. she was a marketing manager, mother of two and last seen leaving a client on tuesday in
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detroit at 4:00 p.m. her husband, 54-year-old bob basharo, said she never came home. police named him a person of interest. no charges have been filed. her sister and friends and family are rallying around him. >> he is an innocent man. a wonderful family. he loved his wife. he is the pillar of the community. people love bob. he has done so much, him and jane were just in this community doing fund-raisers and everybody knows my brother and know that he is incapable of this act. and we are totally supporting him. >> all right, they were married for 26 years and bob denies any involvement in his wife's death. police say he is cooperating with the investigation. paul cowen has handled many cases like this. sunny hostin has been handling the case.
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let me start with what we know. a wife and mother, couple that had been married for a quarter of a century. found strangled in her car near her home. what does this tell you? >> it tells me certainly she knew her murderer because as you mentioned, no forced entry into a home, into the car. no sexual assault. no robbery and a crime that allegedly took place between 4:30 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. that's prime time for neighborhoods. people coming home from work. children are playing outside. being brought home from babysitters. the timeline doesn't make sense. what also strikes me as odd is the fact she was strangled. many investigators will tell you that's a very personal way of murdering someone, a very violent way of murdering someone, so this to me is not some random act of violence but
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of someone who she knew. >> the person police are looking at the s the husband. he's cooperate rating, reportedly failed a polygraph. is it too soon to name him a person of interest? >> i have trouble with this person of business interest any way. it's sort of cop speak for politically correct suspect. really. person of interest. in any event, they are obviously suspicious of him as they are with a spouse, but the other side of this, she's found seven miles away from her home. she's been strangled to death. the body is found in a mercedes-benz. there's nothing we're hearing to link him to the crime. it's not easy to strangle somebody to death. if you had a husband planning to kill his wife, would he strangle her, then take the car to detroit? there's something missing here
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and i think it's a mistake to jump to conclusions. >> so, police are going to look for a motive whether or not they charge him. what specifically are they looking for now to build a case against him? >> he is a person of interest and i disagree with paul, i don't think it's cop speak, it's careful speak. if someone is a suspect, you can ruin people's reputation, so person of interest means they don't have enough interest to charge, but they're looking at home. and in terms of motive, if you're talking about domestic violence, you're lookinging at the classic motive. whether or not someone was having an affair, some final issues. whether or not someone had a life insurance policy, you're looking for why someone would do this. i think he's in a good place considering the fact he's just being called a person of interest. some of the officers called him a suspect, which tells me there's someone slipped up or
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perhaps one police department thinks he's a person of interest and another police department thinks they have their guy. >> paul, let me ask you about the method of murder. as sunny pointed out. strangulation is significant, usually by someone who's close. you've been involved in these cases before. what does it say to you? >> i've prosecuted a lot of murder cases in new york city as a d.a. and strangulation is a very personal form of murder, but -- >> would you want to like enjoy and -- >> you want to watch them die. revel in their suffering, but a psychopathic killer, a serial killer, many of them use this method as well and it's not an easy way to kill something. you need the physical strength to cause the person to pass out. it takes at least a minute to a minute and a half to kill somebody. a lot of times, the person revives, so that's why people say it's personal. sunny and i should have this person of interest debate at
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another time. richard jewel was arrested in atlanta in that. >> paul was fired up there and we'll adjudicate it another time. tonight, a convicted killer, whose controversial pardon by out-going mississippi governor haley barbour has finally been found. he was living with his girlfriend under an assumed name in a motel in laramie, wyoming. he was sentenced to life in prison in 1994 after he shot and killed ricky montgomery during a robbery. he and four other convicted killers worked at the governor's mansion. the governor knew them personally. he and his girlfriend had been together apparently since he was an inmate. >> she was an engineer working
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at northrup grummond, who was frequent visitor at the mansion. if you notice, mr. osmond is in street clothes and wasn't required to wear the pants the other convicts are required to wear. >> i asked if they were surprised he was found so far away in wyoming. >> what's interesting is i think some people suspected he might not have been in mississippi anymore. he had that piece of piaper tha said he was a pardoned man. joseph osmond has a lot of family in mississippi and the memphis area and that's where his crime took place. a lot of people suspected he might have been hiding around in that area, much to the chagrin of the victim's family. a lot of people didn't expect him to stick around. the fact he turns up in this hotel room in laramie, wyoming, living under an assumed name
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fits the mold for some people who didn't think he had any plans of showing up for this hearing or becoming part of this process at all. >> this hearing is on friday and it could result in these man having to go back to jail. obviously in his case, would explain when he tried to flee. what happened when authorities found him in wyoming? did he try to flee or done something that could have jeopardize his position even more? >> according to the ag's office, he tried to drive away and they needed help from the local police. all of this sounds like a man hunt for a wanted criminal. remember, he's not a criminal, not wanted. he has a piece of paper that says he was a pardoned man. all this to serve him with the paperwork to let him know there's a civil process going on, a judge looking whether to overturn these pardons. for him to be an official part of that process, the ag people
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needed to hand him that paperwork to let him know what was going on. that's what all of this was for. >> anderson will have more on that story on a krr"ac 360" wha you have? >> we're digging deep on that story. and we'll ask about the pardoning of the murder, ex governor haley barbour and crimes of passion, these men convicted of crimes of passion, murders in the heat of the moment, therefore they won't do it again. does that stand up to the facts? and the gingrich campaign is strongly suggesting they may not even compete in nevada and michigan. we'll talk to our panel to see if they think that's a winning strateg strategy. >> looking forward to that. another shocking act of violence against a woman in afghanistan. we take a look at this disturbing trend. goodnight, outdated.
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a 22-year-old woman was strangled to death this weekend in afghanistan. her murder, apparently her husband, angry that she gave birth to a girl instead of the son that he wanted. as shocking as this story is, this type of killing is not unique to afghanistan. in canada yesterday, a man, his wife and their son were convicted of first degree murder of three of his daughters and his other wife.
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he was angry his daughters were becoming too western, calling them whores. it's easy to get frustrated and think the muslim faith is to blame when you hear about these violations of women. there's one right people tend to forget about and there is nothing about education in the koran. reports show a significant increase in income and overall economic growth and a big drop in violence when countries educate women. they're not alone in approaching the problem as cultural instead of regulatiligious. last week, i had the opportunity to speak with the author of the book "wanted women. faith, lies and terror." and she said this. >> there are traditions in islam that have veiling of seclusion that left women subjugated and there are thousands working to
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interpret islam in ways that work with human rights and democracy. islam is what people make it. >> interesting. i have met many muslim women who are professionally successful and live in the arab world. in the united arab of emirates i met a 30-year-old successful and made fun of saudi arabia being so backwards because they don't allow women to drive. in riyadh, saudi arabia, i met a man with four daughters who said i don't have a vote around here and reminded me of my own father of three daughters. more needs to be done for these women and there are reforms needed in the governments of these countries. the first thing the u.s. could do to help the problem is see the problem for what it is and not just blame it on a regulatireligious issue every single time and move on. tomorrow, i will be joining wolf

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